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Title: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 21, 2021, 12:33:46 AM
Hey

Long story short.

I get a transaction from friend... perfect it arrives with 1 confirmation directly.. Its like 3k..

Now he send me one more... a smaller one. This one doesnt confirm!

So I use electrum and can spend without confirmation. So I send full balance to another wallet. From that wallet I wanted to send it to Bybit. Anyway. Since the smaller one didnt get confirmed neither did the transaction.. So i Put alot of CPFP and the tried to dubbelspend so it goes back. But nothing work.. its been 4 days. I didnt use no bad fees... thats really odd!!!! Need them in a hurry but the wont confirm what can I do... I sharing Picture of the first and second wallet.. witch I both own.

https://anonfiles.com/zc25mas3u0/sceeeee_png

https://anonfiles.com/t32cm6sfub/sceee2_png

Sceens of the 2 wallets.

Now nothing is confirmed.... what can I do... chech the crazy CHFP fees and made dubbelspending on wallet #2 so they maybe go back to first one witch was confirmed.

Transaction from wallet 1 alltogheter to wallet 2:

db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae

Smaller transaction in wallet 1 that never got confirmed:

ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f

Wallet 2 where the balace should have ended up:

db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae

The 5.6 sat CPFP i payed on wallet 2..

33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071

The one that cracks this issue is a true mastermind! Thanks for help!! Been wainting for days and its not much time left.. I can pay.... Ive tride bitacceleration all that was trash..  :(


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: BitMaxz on April 21, 2021, 01:49:55 AM
It seems that you made a series of unconfirmed transactions you made the network confused about bumping the fee and making multiple CPFP.

You made a mistake in making a CPFP transaction if you paid enough bump fee it won't be stuck.

In order to solve this, it should confirm the first transaction(The RBF transaction).

This one
https://i.imgur.com/hY2soah.png

Can you post the TXID of that transaction(The RBF one) I just can't find the 20sat/byte on the TXID you posted above? That's why ask you again to post the TXID on that transaction here I'd like to check it.



I found this from the second TXID you share above
22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169)

It seems it was from another wallet/exchange sent to your wallet and you are trying to bump the fee?

This transaction must be confirmed first but the problem the fee is too low.

Can you try to submit it on the free accelerator like this one https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator?lang=en_US

If this transaction be confirmed then all of the transaction you made should be confirmed too.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: stompix on April 21, 2021, 01:50:20 AM
The problem is generated by this transaction
https://mempool.space/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

It's 138 inputs big and has paid only 25.1 sat/vB as you can see it drops the overall fee of your first transaction
https://mempool.space/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae

from 229.8 sat/vB to an effective rate of 66.8 sat/vB.

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Need them in a hurry but the wont confirm what can I do

Do you need so bad so soon you're willing to pay that much in fees? I mean you waited for 4 days....


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 21, 2021, 02:22:20 AM
It seems that you made a series of unconfirmed transactions you made the network confused about bumping the fee and making multiple CPFP.

You made a mistake in making a CPFP transaction if you paid enough bump fee it won't be stuck.

In order to solve this, it should confirm the first transaction(The RBF transaction).

This one
https://i.imgur.com/hY2soah.png

Can you post the TXID of that transaction(The RBF one) I just can't find the 20sat/byte on the TXID you posted above? That's why ask you again to post the TXID on that transaction here I'd like to check it.



I found this from the second TXID you share above
22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169)

It seems it was from another wallet/exchange sent to your wallet and you are trying to bump the fee?

This transaction must be confirmed first but the problem the fee is too low.

Can you try to submit it on the free accelerator like this one https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator?lang=en_US

If this transaction be confirmed then all of the transaction you made should be confirmed too.

This one I just sent from my other wallet since hade no money left on the wallet to bumbp the fees anymore. This was sent after all the transaction just to bump the fees. I tried them all... dont work or want like 4k for the help?

6751f88445767c0a15a932ced19976e7472288c384c777761d1c945386f1513a

First 2 transaction was from my friend. 69mbtc and 9 mbtc.. the rest has been fees I put in to bump them. Tried everything. ADn theese came after the problem accured.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 21, 2021, 02:28:38 AM
The problem is generated by this transaction
https://mempool.space/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

It's 138 inputs big and has paid only 25.1 sat/vB as you can see it drops the overall fee of your first transaction
https://mempool.space/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae

from 229.8 sat/vB to an effective rate of 66.8 sat/vB.

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Need them in a hurry but the wont confirm what can I do

Do you need so bad so soon you're willing to pay that much in fees? I mean you waited for 4 days....


4 days is to long cant wait 1 more day. its such a hurry...how long can this take and what can I do about it to speed it up? What transaction do I need to bump seems like ive bumped them all and double spent all of them...:/

https://mempool.space/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

Witch ones is that can I bump the fee do anything?


Edit: How can it be 66 sat when I payed CPFP 5600 sat


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: nc50lc on April 21, 2021, 03:44:15 AM
-snip-
The one that cracks this issue is a true mastermind! Thanks for help!! Been wainting for days and its not much time left.. I can pay.... Ive tride bitacceleration all that was trash..  :(
It's caused by an unconfirmed parent that has a quite low fee rate and a huge transaction size, you've made an unconfirmed transaction chain consisting of 7 transactions:
In descending order by date:
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071 (https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071) 110vB - 594,000 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae (https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae) 110vB - 25,102 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351 (https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351) 110vB - 278,927 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf (https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf) 177vB - 65,487 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175 (https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175) 110vB - 100,000 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f (https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f) 222vB - 133,800 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) 10,072vB - 252,725 satoshi (parent)

That's a total of 10,911 vBytes and an absolute fee of 1,450,041 satoshi, equals to a fee rate of 132.90 satoshi/vB.
That's currently at 4-6MB from tip, not a bad spot.

But if you can accelerate the parent using ViaBTC at exactly HH:00 (link in Bitmaxz's post), the total transaction fees of the children txns should be enough for a fast transaction.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 21, 2021, 03:57:56 AM
-snip-
The one that cracks this issue is a true mastermind! Thanks for help!! Been wainting for days and its not much time left.. I can pay.... Ive tride bitacceleration all that was trash..  :(
It's caused by an unconfirmed parent that has a quite low fee rate and a huge transaction size, you've made an unconfirmed transaction chain consisting of 7 transactions:
In descending order by date:
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071 (https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071) 110vB - 594,000 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae (https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae) 110vB - 25,102 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351 (https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351) 110vB - 278,927 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf (https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf) 177vB - 65,487 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175 (https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175) 110vB - 100,000 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f (https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f) 222vB - 133,800 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) 10,072vB - 252,725 satoshi (parent)



Witch one is the parent from the pictures above and tried BTC Accelerate the free is says it not working. And to pay one is a joke... 0.1216572 BTC ≈ 6738.83k more than my balance.

What can I do now? What parent can I pay to or chat please? Can i bump anything do something?


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: nc50lc on April 21, 2021, 04:02:34 AM
Witch one is the parent from the pictures above and tried BTC Accelerate the free is says it not working. And to pay one is a joke... 0.1216572 BTC ≈ 6738.83k more than my balance.
I've included a note to the parent in the list in my reply, the one with (parent) at the end.

I was trying to paste it myself but I've missed the window and now submission reached its limit, you can try it by the next hour.
That's because they only accepts 100 transaction per hour. I'll also try to paste it there later but don't count on it.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 21, 2021, 04:05:44 AM
Witch one is the parent from the pictures above and tried BTC Accelerate the free is says it not working. And to pay one is a joke... 0.1216572 BTC ≈ 6738.83k more than my balance.
I've included a note to the parent in the list in my reply, the one with (parent) at the end.

I was trying to paste it myself but I've missed the window and now submission reached its limit, you can try it by the next hour.
I'll also try it later but don't count on it.

Okey thanks. But when I look at that parent.. I dont see that one in my wallet?... witch one is it from the pictures. Can I add something to that parent now?

I know its hard to answer exactly... but if nothing happeneds when will I get the fund I will I get all the milion child funds and extra deposit back?


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: nc50lc on April 21, 2021, 04:12:00 AM
Okey thanks. But when I look at that parent.. I dont see that one in my wallet?... witch one is it from the pictures. Can I add something to that parent now?

I know its hard to answer exactly... but if nothing happeneds when will I get the fund I will I get all the milion child funds and extra deposit back?
If it's not in your wallet, that only means that none of the inputs and outputs belong to your wallet.
But since some of your transactions was created using the output of the child of that transaction, your transactions will also be affected, making them a parent-child chain.

Judging from the total fee, they might get confirmed before they'll get purged from mempools (about 2 weeks).


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 21, 2021, 04:18:02 AM
Okey thanks. But when I look at that parent.. I dont see that one in my wallet?... witch one is it from the pictures. Can I add something to that parent now?

I know its hard to answer exactly... but if nothing happeneds when will I get the fund I will I get all the milion child funds and extra deposit back?
If it's not in your wallet, that only means that none of the inputs and outputs belong to your wallet.
But since some of your transactions was created using the output of the child of that transaction, your transactions will also be affected, making them a parent-child chain.

So the solution is so higher the fee of this one?

22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

But how does that relate to my wallet when the 0.068btc warrived and was confirmed at my first wallet?


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 21, 2021, 04:24:26 AM
Cant I extract the seed or do anything at all? If this one that you mention is the problem explain how and what does it have to do with me?

22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169

It is from my friend that sen me the 0.068 what does this other transaction have to to with my wallet... and I still recieved the btc and it confirmed... it was the seocnd one smaller one that didnt confime... 0.009 btc that was only unfonfirmed and mdade the problem when then togheter sent to another adress... one cofnirmed and the other not... now we are talking about a diffrent adress and diffrent trasnsaktion? Dont get it.... Explain and please in a more easy way explain what I can to do fix it. Thanks


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: nc50lc on April 21, 2021, 04:28:21 AM
It is from my friend that sen me the 0.068 what does this other transaction have to to with my wallet... and I still recieved the btc and it confirmed... it was the seocnd one smaller one that didnt confime... 0.009 btc that was only unfonfirmed and mdade the problem when then togheter sent to another adress... one cofnirmed and the other not... now we are talking about a diffrent adress and diffrent trasnsaktion? Dont get it.... Explain and please in a more easy way explain what I can to do fix it. Thanks
The issue in simple words is: Unconfirmed Bitcoin transaction with unconfirmed parent can't be mined without getting the parent confirmed first.
So in your case, the parent with low fee is preventing all of its children transactions from getting confirmations, their fee can help "bump" the parent, and it does making the parent-children fee rate into 132.90 sat/vB.
But even with that fee rate, it's not enough to get confirmed within the next block because of the current standing of mempools.
The problem is the average mempool size which is quite large because of the lower overall network hashrate, you can wait until the next difficulty adjustment when I expect the average fee to fall to normal level.

You can send that transaction to a legit accelerator and the children should have no problem getting confirmation due to their huge fee rate.
Note if you're going to use viaBTC: You need to send it at exactly HH:00:00 (hour:minute:second) for it to have a good chance to be accepted.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: BitMaxz on April 21, 2021, 07:17:08 AM
22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169)
If this is the parent transaction as nc50lc pointing you can do double-spend and rebuild the transaction. Doing this all child transactions will be rejected and you will need to pay a larger fee.

What I would like to know is if where is the another wallet where the BTC came from

This large output
https://i.imgur.com/QQnFk15.png

So where did you create this transaction "22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169" it was from segwit addresses and sent to legacy address. I can't find it in your screenshot where all of your output is in your transaction history.



Here's how to rebuild the transaction.

If you have control of these segwit addresses where the BTC came from(Outputs) then you can make a double spend or rebuild the transaction(Make new raw transaction) and reject the recent child transactions.

According to this calculator (https://coinb.in/#fees) the transaction size is 21948 bytes with 148 outputs and 1 input and the recommended fee right now is 170sat/byte but the Mempool keeps changing over time. So I suggest 200sat/byte if you are going to rebuild this transaction.
I do recommend go to this https://mempool.space/ to know the recommended fee and use the high priority instead because the recommended fee is always changing every couple of minutes.



Use this tool https://coinb.in/#newTransaction paste the parent transaction(TXID)

Now calculate the transaction fee 21948x200sat= 4,389,600 sats or 0.04389600 BTC or 43.896mbtc.

Now edit this part
https://i.imgur.com/LueIgbS.png

it should be 0.04389600 fees before you submit
It should be like this
https://i.imgur.com/Zlct5zt.png

Now submit and it should generate a raw transaction copy the whole text and paste it to Electrum check the image below where to paste it.
https://i.imgur.com/h6DNcmJ.png

Sign the transaction then broadcast.

And I hope this one will work and solve your issue just wait for a couple of minutes or maybe hours.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: NotATether on April 21, 2021, 07:39:20 AM
Note if you're going to use viaBTC: You need to send it at exactly HH:00:00 (hour:minute:second) for it to have a good chance to be accepted.

What is the importance of submitting the transaction exactly on the hour, and does this apply to other accelerators as well?


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: NeuroticFish on April 21, 2021, 07:48:34 AM
What is the importance of submitting the transaction exactly on the hour, and does this apply to other accelerators as well?

ViaBTC offers a very small space (100 tx/hour?) for freely accelerated transactions.
So if you are 5 seconds late that "buffer" is already full, filled by many others using their service.

I don't know the rules of other accelerators, they'll probably be different.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: LoyceV on April 21, 2021, 09:35:53 AM
I've used ViaBTC several times, but I can imagine they have a limit for transaction size. This is going to cost them serious money in missed fees.

In descending order by date:
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071 (https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071) 110vB - 594,000 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae (https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae) 110vB - 25,102 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351 (https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351) 110vB - 278,927 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf (https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf) 177vB - 65,487 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175 (https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175) 110vB - 100,000 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f (https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f) 222vB - 133,800 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) 10,072vB - 252,725 satoshi (parent)
That's a lot of fee! @OP: do you realize you're paying about 0.014 BTC ($800) on fees for these transactions? It's worth more than your unconfirmed input (0.009 BTC)!

Assuming you trust your friend: he should try to replace his stuck transaction that sends you 0.009 BTC. Even if he just sends one of the inputs elsewhere with a much higher fee, that would be enough to cancel all your child transactions. And even if you don't trust him, even losing the 0.009 BTC is cheaper than paying 0.014 BTC on fees.
Your friend picked the wrong moment to consolidate (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2848987.0) his small inputs, there's even a 0.00001181 BTC input, which is worth less than the fee it currently takes to move it.
And you picked the wrong unconfirmed input. If you would have (manually) selected to spend from only the confirmed (and much bigger) input in Electrum, you wouldn't have to pay this much in transaction fees. And the low-fee incoming transaction would just confirm a few weeks from now.

If your friend can't do it, maybe you can double spend 0.06790889 BTC from bc1qpyvd9nvc2k2aeep7e8zshmqzps4n2fm7m6hw8l (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qpyvd9nvc2k2aeep7e8zshmqzps4n2fm7m6hw8l) to another address. It has RBF enabled, and will result in only a small transaction so you don't pay a fortune in fees. If this works, you'll just forget about the 0.009 BTC transaction until it confirms.

it should be 0.04389600 fees before you submit
It should be like this
https://i.imgur.com/Zlct5zt.png
That's a terrible way to waste money $2500 on fees.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: nc50lc on April 21, 2021, 01:54:23 PM
Note if you're going to use viaBTC: You need to send it at exactly HH:00:00 (hour:minute:second) for it to have a good chance to be accepted.
What is the importance of submitting the transaction exactly on the hour, and does this apply to other accelerators as well?
Exactly as NeuroticFish pointed out.
And it's also based from experience since I've been using the service to save on fees.
Just this week, I've successfully sent two transactions with lower than 20sat/vB fee rate.

But for some reason aside from their server being non-responsive during HH:00, I'm having trouble submitting OP's parent transaction, already tried 4 times.

-snip-
That's a lot of fee! @OP: do you realize you're paying about 0.014 BTC ($800) on fees for these transactions? It's worth more than your unconfirmed input (0.009 BTC)!
-snip-
I'm guessing only a few of those belong to OP, some are from his friend and others.
But still, two or three from the list isn't cheap.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 21, 2021, 02:22:17 PM
22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169)
If this is the parent transaction as nc50lc pointing you can do double-spend and rebuild the transaction. Doing this all child transactions will be rejected and you will need to pay a larger fee.

What I would like to know is if where is the another wallet where the BTC came from

This large output
https://i.imgur.com/QQnFk15.png

So where did you create this transaction "22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169" it was from segwit addresses and sent to legacy address. I can't find it in your screenshot where all of your output is in your transaction history.




Here's how to rebuild the transaction.

If you have control of these segwit addresses where the BTC came from(Outputs) then you can make a double spend or rebuild the transaction(Make new raw transaction) and reject the recent child transactions.

According to this calculator (https://coinb.in/#fees) the transaction size is 21948 bytes with 148 outputs and 1 input and the recommended fee right now is 170sat/byte but the Mempool keeps changing over time. So I suggest 200sat/byte if you are going to rebuild this transaction.
I do recommend go to this https://mempool.space/ to know the recommended fee and use the high priority instead because the recommended fee is always changing every couple of minutes.



Use this tool https://coinb.in/#newTransaction paste the parent transaction(TXID)

Now calculate the transaction fee 21948x200sat= 4,389,600 sats or 0.04389600 BTC or 43.896mbtc.

Now edit this part
https://i.imgur.com/LueIgbS.png

it should be 0.04389600 fees before you submit
It should be like this
https://i.imgur.com/Zlct5zt.png

Now submit and it should generate a raw transaction copy the whole text and paste it to Electrum check the image below where to paste it.
https://i.imgur.com/h6DNcmJ.png

Sign the transaction then broadcast.

And I hope this one will work and solve your issue just wait for a couple of minutes or maybe hours.

I did not create this one and dont understand how it can be the parent... Ive done I very clear picture of how it all was for those who maybe mixed up stuff?

https://anonfiles.com/7fiascs3ue/Clear_png

Should I make a rebuild of the 0.069 mBTC and how do I calculate for only that.. for as now I dont care for the 0.09... !

Edit: Thats to much fee, almost the whole balance.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 21, 2021, 02:29:56 PM
It is from my friend that sen me the 0.068 what does this other transaction have to to with my wallet... and I still recieved the btc and it confirmed... it was the seocnd one smaller one that didnt confime... 0.009 btc that was only unfonfirmed and mdade the problem when then togheter sent to another adress... one cofnirmed and the other not... now we are talking about a diffrent adress and diffrent trasnsaktion? Dont get it.... Explain and please in a more easy way explain what I can to do fix it. Thanks
The issue in simple words is: Unconfirmed Bitcoin transaction with unconfirmed parent can't be mined without getting the parent confirmed first.
So in your case, the parent with low fee is preventing all of its children transactions from getting confirmations, their fee can help "bump" the parent, and it does making the parent-children fee rate into 132.90 sat/vB.
But even with that fee rate, it's not enough to get confirmed within the next block because of the current standing of mempools.
The problem is the average mempool size which is quite large because of the lower overall network hashrate, you can wait until the next difficulty adjustment when I expect the average fee to fall to normal level.

You can send that transaction to a legit accelerator and the children should have no problem getting confirmation due to their huge fee rate.
Note if you're going to use viaBTC: You need to send it at exactly HH:00:00 (hour:minute:second) for it to have a good chance to be accepted.

I will try that but why should I bump that transaction.. can you explain please..Check my photo.

https://anonfiles.com/7fiascs3ue/Clear_png
I've used ViaBTC several times, but I can imagine they have a limit for transaction size. This is going to cost them serious money in missed fees.

In descending order by date:
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071 (https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071) 110vB - 594,000 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae (https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae) 110vB - 25,102 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351 (https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351) 110vB - 278,927 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf (https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf) 177vB - 65,487 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175 (https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175) 110vB - 100,000 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f (https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f) 222vB - 133,800 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) 10,072vB - 252,725 satoshi (parent)
That's a lot of fee! @OP: do you realize you're paying about 0.014 BTC ($800) on fees for these transactions? It's worth more than your unconfirmed input (0.009 BTC)!

Assuming you trust your friend: he should try to replace his stuck transaction that sends you 0.009 BTC. Even if he just sends one of the inputs elsewhere with a much higher fee, that would be enough to cancel all your child transactions. And even if you don't trust him, even losing the 0.009 BTC is cheaper than paying 0.014 BTC on fees.
Your friend picked the wrong moment to consolidate (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2848987.0) his small inputs, there's even a 0.00001181 BTC input, which is worth less than the fee it currently takes to move it.
And you picked the wrong unconfirmed input. If you would have (manually) selected to spend from only the confirmed (and much bigger) input in Electrum, you wouldn't have to pay this much in transaction fees. And the low-fee incoming transaction would just confirm a few weeks from now.

If your friend can't do it, maybe you can double spend 0.06790889 BTC from bc1qpyvd9nvc2k2aeep7e8zshmqzps4n2fm7m6hw8l (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qpyvd9nvc2k2aeep7e8zshmqzps4n2fm7m6hw8l) to another address. It has RBF enabled, and will result in only a small transaction so you don't pay a fortune in fees. If this works, you'll just forget about the 0.009 BTC transaction until it confirms.

it should be 0.04389600 fees before you submit
It should be like this
https://i.imgur.com/Zlct5zt.png
That's a terrible way to waste money $2500 on fees.

I can still spend it... its in my wallet but its unconfirmed. I did double spent it so it went back to the old wallet.... The btc is in the wsllet when settings is on "spend unconfirmed trans" and that was days ago.... nothing has happened...

https://anonfiles.com/x6nbs6s4ub/spend_png


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 21, 2021, 03:07:56 PM
So how can I get my 0.069 that was once confirmed, but sent with an unconfirmed 0.009 to my other wallet back? (Only care for the 0.069)

It seems like when I "mixed" my confirmed with the unconfirmed.. they got stuck? I asked my friend to double spend the 0.009 as well.. and this was day 2 maybe. BUT he did it after I already spent them togheter and sending them to wallet #2.


So witch one do I accelerate 00.00?

And can I do something else about my 0.069 to get it confirmed..? The CPFP didnt help... neither did double spending it.

If i keep upping the CPFP in wallet #2 that is already 5600sat does that do anything?

Wallet #2

https://anonfiles.com/pfD2s5s2u9/spend_png

https://anonfiles.com/R8D5sbs2u6/wallett_png

ID for 0.0072 that is the confirmed 0.0069 and unconfirmed 0.0009 together

db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae

ID for CPHP that was supposed to speed up the transaction:

33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071

------------------------------

Wallet #1


https://anonfiles.com/RfE4s0saud/w1_png

https://anonfiles.com/VeE0s8s7u1/w12_png

The balance is still at wallet #2 as you can see..

All the CPHP ID that was used in wallet #1

acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351

c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175

ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf

b501b903454f9865645f7cd1240ca6072db1161518b2ee0035780946e6d5373b


I hope I was clear enough now... so what can be done?


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: LoyceV on April 21, 2021, 03:53:39 PM
I did double spent it so it went back to the old wallet....
What exactly did you do to double spend it?
Did you right-click the -67.90889 transaction > Cancel (double-spend), and try to send it back to your own address with a higher fee?

For next time: enable the Coins tab in Electrum, manually select ("control") which inputs to use, then right-click "Spend".

Update: with some manual copy/pasting, I used coinb.in to create this unsigned transaction with a rediculously high fee:
Code:
0100000001ec1b361292c722587011909e6a2586e2442594aca205ba4b46ee9e557787b3a101000000140918d2cd985595dce43ec9c50bec020c2b35277efdffffff01e03b6600000000001600140918d2cd985595dce43ec9c50bec020c2b35277e00000000
I have no idea if it could work, and as a warning: you shouldn't use anyting like this without fully understanding what you're doing (I've never tested this before, don't trust me on this!). Can anyone verify this could work?


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: nc50lc on April 21, 2021, 05:45:49 PM
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I will try that but why should I bump that transaction.. can you explain please..Check my photo.
It's everything what I've already explained, you can accelerate it to be able to send those children transactions but
the good news is: the screenshot seems to connect and you have a chance to invalidate the CPFP transactions with very huge fee.
Now let me connect and edit your screenshot in simplest way possible:

Edited (various color) over your edits (red):
https://i.imgur.com/3R6f001.png (https://i.imgur.com/3R6f001.png)
The numbers are the same as my previous transaction list excluding the parent which I believe from your friend's wallet:
  • [6] https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071 (https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071) 110vB - 594,000 satoshi
  • [5] https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae (https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae) 110vB - 25,102 satoshi
  • [4] https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351 (https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351) 110vB - 278,927 satoshi
  • [3] https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf (https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf) 177vB - 65,487 satoshi
  • [2] https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175 (https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175) 110vB - 100,000 satoshi
  • [1] https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f (https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f) 222vB - 133,800 satoshi
  • [X] https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) 10,072vB - 252,725 satoshi (parent)
I don't know how you managed to perform multiple CPFP using Electrum, manually created CPFP txns I guess.

Basically, you need to use RBF to transaction #2 to be able to cancel the succeeding transactions.
Luckily, it's marked as RBF: c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175 (https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175)
Use: "right-click->increase fee" to #2, set a higher fee rate than what's previously set sign &broadcast and that will cancel out txn marked as #3~#6.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 21, 2021, 10:15:49 PM
-snip-
I will try that but why should I bump that transaction.. can you explain please..Check my photo.
It's everything what I've already explained, you can accelerate it to be able to send those children transactions but
the good news is: the screenshot seems to connect and you have a chance to invalidate the CPFP transactions with very huge fee.
Now let me connect and edit your screenshot in simplest way possible:

Edited (various color) over your edits (red):
https://i.imgur.com/3R6f001.png (https://i.imgur.com/3R6f001.png)
The numbers are the same as my previous transaction list excluding the parent which I believe from your friend's wallet:
  • [6] https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071 (https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071) 110vB - 594,000 satoshi
  • [5] https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae (https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae) 110vB - 25,102 satoshi
  • [4] https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351 (https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351) 110vB - 278,927 satoshi
  • [3] https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf (https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf) 177vB - 65,487 satoshi
  • [2] https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175 (https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175) 110vB - 100,000 satoshi
  • [1] https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f (https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f) 222vB - 133,800 satoshi
  • [X] https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) 10,072vB - 252,725 satoshi (parent)
I don't know how you managed to perform multiple CPFP using Electrum, manually created CPFP txns I guess.

Basically, you need to use RBF to transaction #2 to be able to cancel the succeeding transactions.
Luckily, it's marked as RBF: c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175 (https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175)
Use: "right-click->increase fee" to #2, set a higher fee rate than what's previously set sign &broadcast and that will cancel out txn marked as #3~#6.

Okey, as I dont have any more to BTC in the wallet I will send some to it..but how much? The fee has to be changed to minimum 1mBTC, should I put more?

I guess this will make the transaction come back to my wallet and restore the previous sent CPFP transaction as you mentioned?

Should I Use ETA, Static or Mempool? Dont know the diffrence and whats better?

https://i.ibb.co/C6xG0gv/this.png (https://ibb.co/PMBHCK4)


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: BitMaxz on April 21, 2021, 10:59:31 PM

I did not create this one and dont understand how it can be the parent... Ive done I very clear picture of how it all was for those who maybe mixed up stuff?

https://anonfiles.com/7fiascs3ue/Clear_png

Should I make a rebuild of the 0.069 mBTC and how do I calculate for only that.. for as now I dont care for the 0.09... !

Edit: Thats to much fee, almost the whole balance.

It's just an option if you are in hurry and want to confirm the parent transaction right away but if not don't do it

I still confuse about your wallet why all outputs are not there from that parent transaction look at the image on my post above if you don't have control of those addresses/outputs then you can't able to do double-spend because you can't able to sign the transaction unless if you have control of those address/outputs.



Can you try to open this coins tab click the view>show coins then go to coins tab it looks like this
https://www.massmux.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/electrum_choose_utxo-1024x557.png
Source of img: https://www.massmux.com/how-to-create-and-send-an-on-chain-transaction-with-electrum-4/

It must show all outputs that I pointing out in my previous post if not then you don't have control of those outputs and it's not in your wallet.
If it's from your friend's wallet as nc50lc said above then you can't do anything but to wait or submit the parent transaction to an accelerator or look for someone who mines on f2pool to request to submit the parent transaction to put it in high priority.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: hosseinimr93 on April 21, 2021, 11:20:01 PM
Okey, as I dont have any more to BTC in the wallet I will send some to it..but how much? The fee has to be changed to minimum 1mBTC, should I put more?
You don't have to add any extra fund to your wallet.
Just right click on that transaction and select "Increase fee".

As you don't have any extra fund in your wallet, the added fee will be deducted from the sending amount.

I guess this will make the transaction come back to my wallet and restore the previous sent CPFP transaction as you mentioned?
Correct.
By doing RBF for transaction number 2, transaction number 3 will be invalidated and the 0.0679 BTC will be unstuck.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: nc50lc on April 22, 2021, 01:45:37 AM
-snip-
Use: "right-click->increase fee" to #2, set a higher fee rate than what's previously set sign &broadcast and that will cancel out txn marked as #3~#6.
Okey, as I dont have any more to BTC in the wallet I will send some to it..but how much? The fee has to be changed to minimum 1mBTC, should I put more?
-snip-
Why's there a local transaction? The one with blue computer icon.
Electrum might use that as additional input for the RBF and make your transaction invalid depending if that transaction is valid in mempools or blockchain.
Remove it first by "Right-click->Remove".

Then perform RBF to transaction #2, but use the advanced setting:
https://i.imgur.com/qd4EirN.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/FbQPZut.png
Using this setting, Electrum won't add additional input but deduct the additional fee from the amount to be sent, but deleting the local transaction is still suggested for various reasons.
For the additional fee, you don't have to add too much, additional 1sat/vB is a valid bump. Setting it from 909.1 sat/vB to 920sat/vB is excessive enough.

I'd also like to inform you that you're running out of time, the more time passed, the higher the chance for the transaction chain to get confirmed.
After 1 confirmation, you won't be able to invalidate the very-high-fee CPFP transactions.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 22, 2021, 02:09:14 AM
-snip-
Use: "right-click->increase fee" to #2, set a higher fee rate than what's previously set sign &broadcast and that will cancel out txn marked as #3~#6.
Okey, as I dont have any more to BTC in the wallet I will send some to it..but how much? The fee has to be changed to minimum 1mBTC, should I put more?
-snip-
Why's there a local transaction? The one with blue computer icon.
Electrum might use that as additional input for the RBF and make your transaction invalid depending if that transaction is valid in mempools or blockchain.
Remove it first by "Right-click->Remove".

Then perform RBF to transaction #2, but use the advanced setting:
https://i.imgur.com/qd4EirN.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/FbQPZut.png
Using this setting, Electrum won't add additional input but deduct the additional fee from the amount to be sent, but deleting the local transaction is still suggested for various reasons.
For the additional fee, you don't have to add too much, additional 1sat/vB is a valid bump. Setting it from 909.1 sat/vB to 920sat/vB is excessive enough.

I'd also like to inform you that you're running out of time, the more time passed, the higher the chance for the transaction chain to get confirmed.
After 1 confirmation, you won't be able to invalidate the very-high-fee CPFP transactions.

I cannot do this decrese.... It says when I press the normal without decrase I dont have sufficent fund... neither can I dont any thing now check:

https://i.ibb.co/sb7Gy6y/dont.png (https://ibb.co/5GZyBnB)


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 22, 2021, 02:19:47 AM
Okey, as I dont have any more to BTC in the wallet I will send some to it..but how much? The fee has to be changed to minimum 1mBTC, should I put more?
You don't have to add any extra fund to your wallet.
Just right click on that transaction and select "Increase fee".

As you don't have any extra fund in your wallet, the added fee will be deducted from the sending amount.

I guess this will make the transaction come back to my wallet and restore the previous sent CPFP transaction as you mentioned?
Correct.
By doing RBF for transaction number 2, transaction number 3 will be invalidated and the 0.0679 BTC will be unstuck.

I tried them all... this is what I got:

https://ibb.co/JrJyM3B  Tried this with decrease.... it showed this: https://ibb.co/nDFfYQk



I tried the normal to raise fee.. https://ibb.co/g93LNw9 it showed me this: https://ibb.co/FXcRSfZ

So I guess I need to deposit more to make this? What do I even earn on it if paying another 920sat if we compare it to every CPHP?

Wow.. i knew i was scrued... im in big problem if this doesnt fix soon :(

Edit: What now do I transfer anything to this wallet or not?


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: nc50lc on April 22, 2021, 03:00:39 AM
I cannot do this decrese.... It says when I press the normal without decrase I dont have sufficent fund... neither can I dont any thing now check:
https://i.ibb.co/sb7Gy6y/dont.png (https://ibb.co/5GZyBnB)
Hmm, the rule it's referring to is the replacement should be at least able to pay the additional minimum fee.

Okay, I get it, the current mempoolminfee is higher than 1sat/vB because of the high average mempool size (missed that detail).
Using the same advanced setting, try to add more fee than what you've set until the server accepts your replacement transaction.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 22, 2021, 03:36:22 AM
I cannot do this decrese.... It says when I press the normal without decrase I dont have sufficent fund... neither can I dont any thing now check:
https://i.ibb.co/sb7Gy6y/dont.png (https://ibb.co/5GZyBnB)
Hmm, the rule it's referring to is the replacement should be at least able to pay the additional minimum fee.

Okay, I get it, the current mempoolminfee is higher than 1sat/vB because of the high average mempool size (missed that detail).
Using the same advanced setting, try to add more fee than what you've set until the server accepts your replacement transaction.

So what should I try to add BTC to this account or not so I can pay the higher fee?


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: HCP on April 22, 2021, 04:27:09 AM
It's caused by an unconfirmed parent that has a quite low fee rate and a huge transaction size, you've made an unconfirmed transaction chain consisting of 7 transactions:
In descending order by date:
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071 (https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071) 110vB - 594,000 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae (https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae) 110vB - 25,102 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351 (https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351) 110vB - 278,927 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf (https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf) 177vB - 65,487 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175 (https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175) 110vB - 100,000 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f (https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f) 222vB - 133,800 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) 10,072vB - 252,725 satoshi (parent)
But for some reason aside from their server being non-responsive during HH:00, I'm having trouble submitting OP's parent transaction, already tried 4 times.

I think it is because you missed an unconfirmed transaction in the chain... the last one in your list ("22d63c") has an unconfirmed parent: 399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3 (https://mempool.space/tx/399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3)

It has 64 inputs, 2 outputs and a fee rate of 25.1 sat/vbyte :-\ and it creates one of the 148 inputs used in the "22d63c" transaction :-\ (http://22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169)


So, if you manage to accelerate the "399f78" transaction and get that one confirmed, you will then be able to accelerate the "22d63c" one.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 22, 2021, 04:30:30 AM
I cannot do this decrese.... It says when I press the normal without decrase I dont have sufficent fund... neither can I dont any thing now check:
https://i.ibb.co/sb7Gy6y/dont.png (https://ibb.co/5GZyBnB)
Hmm, the rule it's referring to is the replacement should be at least able to pay the additional minimum fee.

Okay, I get it, the current mempoolminfee is higher than 1sat/vB because of the high average mempool size (missed that detail).
Using the same advanced setting, try to add more fee than what you've set until the server accepts your replacement transaction.

So what should I try to add BTC to this account or not so I can pay the higher fee?

Nope, Just try to add more fee until the server accept the transaction as mentioned using the same settings, you dont have to deposit balance!

What are you talking about? How can I increase something without having enough balance for it?


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 22, 2021, 04:51:02 AM
I cannot do this decrese.... It says when I press the normal without decrase I dont have sufficent fund... neither can I dont any thing now check:
https://i.ibb.co/sb7Gy6y/dont.png (https://ibb.co/5GZyBnB)
Hmm, the rule it's referring to is the replacement should be at least able to pay the additional minimum fee.

Okay, I get it, the current mempoolminfee is higher than 1sat/vB because of the high average mempool size (missed that detail).
Using the same advanced setting, try to add more fee than what you've set until the server accepts your replacement transaction.

So what should I try to add BTC to this account or not so I can pay the higher fee?

Nope, Just try to add more fee until the server accept the transaction as mentioned using the same settings, you dont have to deposit balance!

What are you talking about? How can I increase something without having enough balance for it?

Well, nc50lc means, repeat the same steps, but by increasing the transaction fees in the text box next to the word "New fee rate" while keeping the same settings as the previous time

- If It refuses / gives error again, try again with a higher fee than the previous one.

- Fees are deducted from the transaction itself and not from your balance, these are the settings. You will not need credit. This is what was mentioned.


Nope doesnt work.... what do I do?
It's caused by an unconfirmed parent that has a quite low fee rate and a huge transaction size, you've made an unconfirmed transaction chain consisting of 7 transactions:
In descending order by date:
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071 (https://blockstream.info/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071) 110vB - 594,000 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae (https://blockstream.info/tx/db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae) 110vB - 25,102 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351 (https://blockstream.info/tx/acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351) 110vB - 278,927 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf (https://blockstream.info/tx/ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf) 177vB - 65,487 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175 (https://blockstream.info/tx/c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175) 110vB - 100,000 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f (https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f) 222vB - 133,800 satoshi
  • https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockstream.info/tx/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) 10,072vB - 252,725 satoshi (parent)
But for some reason aside from their server being non-responsive during HH:00, I'm having trouble submitting OP's parent transaction, already tried 4 times.

I think it is because you missed an unconfirmed transaction in the chain... the last one in your list ("22d63c") has an unconfirmed parent: 399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3 (https://mempool.space/tx/399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3)

It has 64 inputs, 2 outputs and a fee rate of 25.1 sat/vbyte :-\ and it creates one of the 148 inputs used in the "22d63c" transaction :-\ (http://22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169)


So, if you manage to accelerate the "399f78" transaction and get that one confirmed, you will then be able to accelerate the "22d63c" one.


Witch one? Be more clear.. Why isnt it the other one nc50lc mention above then?


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: HCP on April 22, 2021, 05:05:53 AM
Witch one? Be more clear.. Why isnt it the other one nc50lc mention above then?
I'm not sure how I can be any more clear than: "accelerate the '399f78' transaction"? ???

But this one... https://mempool.space/tx/399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3

You need to get that transaction confirmed before ANY of your transactions are going to be able to be confirmed. So, try and get that accelerated using https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator


It isn't the one nc50lc mentioned, because the one nc50lc mentioned is a "child" of this unconfirmed transaction.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 22, 2021, 05:19:04 AM
Witch one? Be more clear.. Why isnt it the other one nc50lc mention above then?
I'm not sure how I can be any more clear than: "accelerate the '399f78' transaction"? ???

But this one... https://mempool.space/tx/399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3

You need to get that transaction confirmed before ANY of your transactions are going to be able to be confirmed. So, try and get that accelerated using https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator


It isn't the one nc50lc mentioned, because the one nc50lc mentioned is a "child" of this unconfirmed transaction.

Okey I dont have access to that one.. so I cant get my once confirmed transaction because of some wallet before me.. I dont doubt you its just... i dont know. I need this money asap.. When do u think they will confrim at this rate and can I cancel all the child or something ?

Edit: Btw This Viabtc is trash... I tried it 00.00 as told.. 1h before after and all day.... Limit bla bla.. not working.

Edit: If i get hold of my friend and he makes the fee higher or can he even do that? I mean 900 sat for those transaktions.. how much is needed wtf???


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: nc50lc on April 22, 2021, 05:32:29 AM
Okay, I get it, the current mempoolminfee is higher than 1sat/vB because of the high average mempool size (missed that detail).
Using the same advanced setting, try to add more fee than what you've set until the server accepts your replacement transaction.
So what should I try to add BTC to this account or not so I can pay the higher fee?
Just do the same, "right-click->Increase fee->Advanced setting->decrease payment", but instead of putting 920sat/B, increase it to 950sat/B,
if still returned with same error, repeat but set 1000sat/B.
You don't have to add funds, by using that option, your wallet will just deduct the additional fee from the output.

It's caused by an unconfirmed parent that has a quite low fee rate and a huge transaction size, you've made an unconfirmed transaction chain consisting of 7 transactions:
-snip-
I think it is because you missed an unconfirmed transaction in the chain... the last one in your list ("22d63c") has an unconfirmed parent: 399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3 (https://mempool.space/tx/399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3)
Ah, so that's the reason why I can't accelerate the parent yesterday, because one of its 147 inputs is unconfirmed.
Anyways, OP now wants to cancel his multiple CPFP transactions with very very huge transactions fees. He can do that by using RBF to the first CPFP transaction in the chain that he initiated through his wallet.
Refer to post #23 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5332037.msg56836700#msg56836700)


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: HCP on April 22, 2021, 05:53:27 AM
Okey I dont have access to that one.. so I cant get my once confirmed transaction because of some wallet before me.. I dont doubt you its just... i dont know. I need this money asap.. When do u think they will confrim at this rate and can I cancel all the child or something ?
At this rate of 25 sats/vbyte... and given the current state of the network... it will likely take days to confirm that transaction. :-\


Edit: Btw This Viabtc is trash... I tried it 00.00 as told.. 1h before after and all day.... Limit bla bla.. not working.
You need to try it in the very first second of every hour (not just 00.00)... so every single hour you can try (00.00, 01.00, 02.00, 03.00... 23.00 24.00)... but you have to remember, there are like 200,000+ unconfirmed transactions at the moment... and ViaBTC only allow 100 slots every hour.

There will be literally thousands of people (and bots) competing for those 100 slots. No one said it would be easy... but it does work. And to be honest, it seems like it is literally your only shot of getting any of your transactions sorted, unless you want to pay ridiculous sums to ViaBTC or BTC.com to use their paid services.


Edit: If i get hold of my friend and he makes the fee higher or can he even do that? I mean 900 sat for those transaktions.. how much is needed wtf???
A transaction sent now... only requires about 200+ sats/vbyte... the problem is that you're also having to pay for the ridiculous 148 inputs transaction AND the 64 input transaction that both only paid 25 sats/vbyte. :-\

That's what CPFP is: "Child Pays For Parent"... you are trying to pay enough to cover ALL the unconfirmed parent transactions. And because those unconfirmed parent transactions are so large in data size... and paid such small fees... it drags down the "effective" fee rate paid by the CPFP transactions you have been trying to make :-\


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 22, 2021, 07:08:42 AM
Okey I dont have access to that one.. so I cant get my once confirmed transaction because of some wallet before me.. I dont doubt you its just... i dont know. I need this money asap.. When do u think they will confrim at this rate and can I cancel all the child or something ?
At this rate of 25 sats/vbyte... and given the current state of the network... it will likely take days to confirm that transaction. :-\


Edit: Btw This Viabtc is trash... I tried it 00.00 as told.. 1h before after and all day.... Limit bla bla.. not working.
You need to try it in the very first second of every hour (not just 00.00)... so every single hour you can try (00.00, 01.00, 02.00, 03.00... 23.00 24.00)... but you have to remember, there are like 200,000+ unconfirmed transactions at the moment... and ViaBTC only allow 100 slots every hour.

There will be literally thousands of people (and bots) competing for those 100 slots. No one said it would be easy... but it does work. And to be honest, it seems like it is literally your only shot of getting any of your transactions sorted, unless you want to pay ridiculous sums to ViaBTC or BTC.com to use their paid services.


Edit: If i get hold of my friend and he makes the fee higher or can he even do that? I mean 900 sat for those transaktions.. how much is needed wtf???
A transaction sent now... only requires about 200+ sats/vbyte... the problem is that you're also having to pay for the ridiculous 148 inputs transaction AND the 64 input transaction that both only paid 25 sats/vbyte. :-\

That's what CPFP is: "Child Pays For Parent"... you are trying to pay enough to cover ALL the unconfirmed parent transactions. And because those unconfirmed parent transactions are so large in data size... and paid such small fees... it drags down the "effective" fee rate paid by the CPFP transactions you have been trying to make :-\

Okey but can the guy with access to this transaction up the fee to a lets say 300 and rebroadcast it? Is that the solution maybe? If this doesnt work... how long will I wait?


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: LoyceV on April 22, 2021, 08:50:08 AM
Edit: Btw This Viabtc is trash... I tried it 00.00 as told.. 1h before after and all day.... Limit bla bla.. not working.
I wouldn't call them "trash": they offer a free service that's in high demand.

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Edit: If i get hold of my friend and he makes the fee higher or can he even do that? I mean 900 sat for those transaktions.. how much is needed wtf???
Have you suggested to just double spend one of the inputs and start over, instead of paying more and more on transaction fees, then sending a new transaction which you won't spend before it's confirmed?

Okey but can the guy with access to this transaction up the fee to a lets say 300 and rebroadcast it? Is that the solution maybe? If this doesnt work... how long will I wait?
The current fee (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) is 0.00252725 BTC for 25 sat/vbyte. If he's willing to go 12 times higher, that's 0.03 BTC ($1600). It would make it much more likely to confirm, but it's a terrible waste of money.

Update: this transaction (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) (the one sending 0.13350876 BTC to 1EUjutQBMWGySX587StRxUMo8JDyhj8o1c) shortly gave a 404 on Blockchair.com. I'm not sure if that's a flaw or result of a different transaction being broadcasted.

My advice (for your friend):
he should try to replace his stuck transaction that sends you 0.009 BTC. Even if he just sends one of the inputs elsewhere with a much higher fee, that would be enough to cancel all your child transactions.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: nc50lc on April 22, 2021, 09:44:25 AM
Aside from using RBF to transaction I marked as #2 in the screenshot, you can also ask your friend to perform RBF the transaction he sent you.
I believe that has the transaction ID: ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f (https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f) (with RBF flag)

And I've already posted in this reply (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5332037.msg56839472#msg56839472) what to do if it returned with the error:

That's all I that can advice based from what you want:
Quote from: idontknowwhattodo
https://i.imgur.com/Etlss7p.png (https://i.imgur.com/Etlss7p.png)
-edited with purple marks-
(it's 0.067BTC right? not 0.067mBTC)

Since you've included the output of the pointed (purple) transaction to the #3 marked txn, its funds became a part of your unconfirmed balance.
The only way is to invalidate that txn #3 by either (you) using RBF to txn #2 or (your friend's) unconfirmed transaction using is wallet.
(refer to my previous post's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5332037.msg56836700#msg56836700) screenshot).


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 22, 2021, 03:28:02 PM
Edit: Btw This Viabtc is trash... I tried it 00.00 as told.. 1h before after and all day.... Limit bla bla.. not working.
I wouldn't call them "trash": they offer a free service that's in high demand.

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Edit: If i get hold of my friend and he makes the fee higher or can he even do that? I mean 900 sat for those transaktions.. how much is needed wtf???
Have you suggested to just double spend one of the inputs and start over, instead of paying more and more on transaction fees, then sending a new transaction which you won't spend before it's confirmed?

Okey but can the guy with access to this transaction up the fee to a lets say 300 and rebroadcast it? Is that the solution maybe? If this doesnt work... how long will I wait?
The current fee (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) is 0.00252725 BTC for 25 sat/vbyte. If he's willing to go 12 times higher, that's 0.03 BTC ($1600). It would make it much more likely to confirm, but it's a terrible waste of money.

Update: this transaction (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) (the one sending 0.13350876 BTC to 1EUjutQBMWGySX587StRxUMo8JDyhj8o1c) shortly gave a 404 on Blockchair.com. I'm not sure if that's a flaw or result of a different transaction being broadcasted.

My advice (for your friend):
he should try to replace his stuck transaction that sends you 0.009 BTC. Even if he just sends one of the inputs elsewhere with a much higher fee, that would be enough to cancel all your child transactions.

Well trust me Ive tried them every hour. Always limit exceded. And I did double spend every transaction possible. On Wallet #2 and my friend did double spend his 0.009, didnt help.

Aside from using RBF to transaction I marked as #2 in the screenshot, you can also ask your friend to perform RBF the transaction he sent you.
I believe that has the transaction ID: ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f (https://blockstream.info/tx/ad6e020366cf24d838c4cf9edcbe3f29e1a0de35dbd42e370c55055d6a91c05f) (with RBF flag)

And I've already posted in this reply (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5332037.msg56839472#msg56839472) what to do if it returned with the error:

That's all I that can advice based from what you want:
Quote from: idontknowwhattodo
https://i.imgur.com/Etlss7p.png (https://i.imgur.com/Etlss7p.png)
-edited with purple marks-
(it's 0.067BTC right? not 0.067mBTC)

Since you've included the output of the pointed (purple) transaction to the #3 marked txn, its funds became a part of your unconfirmed balance.
The only way is to invalidate that txn #3 by either (you) using RBF to txn #2 or (your friend's) unconfirmed transaction using is wallet.
(refer to my previous post's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5332037.msg56836700#msg56836700) screenshot).

I tried upping the fee for the one you mention by 920-1000-1200.. etc all the way to 4000 didnt help, got error. And its 0.067BTC correct. So now that I've understood that there is no chance of doing anything.. the question is how long time would it take for it to get dropped from mempool and just come back to wallet #1?


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: LoyceV on April 22, 2021, 04:16:40 PM
On Wallet #2 and my friend did double spend his 0.009, didnt help.
Crazy out of the box idea: If your friend gives me the private key to bc1q3q6493amjh48qzjzp50n4ecg0gr2nf0ky6frz8 (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q3q6493amjh48qzjzp50n4ecg0gr2nf0ky6frz8) (and marks it as "COMPROMISED, don't use again" in his wallet), I will try my best to "steal" the 0.00067408 BTC. If I succeed, transaction 22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) becomes invalid and you can send your 0.06790889 BTC (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qpyvd9nvc2k2aeep7e8zshmqzps4n2fm7m6hw8l) again with a normal fee. As a bonus, all your child transactions with very expensive CPFP fees won't be needed (nor possible) either.
If I fail to "steal" your friend's 0.00067408 BTC, nothing changes.

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how long time would it take for it to get dropped from mempool and just come back to wallet #1?
If the wallet keeps broadcasting the transaction, it won't drop out of mempool.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 22, 2021, 05:15:06 PM
On Wallet #2 and my friend did double spend his 0.009, didnt help.
Crazy out of the box idea: If your friend gives me the private key to bc1q3q6493amjh48qzjzp50n4ecg0gr2nf0ky6frz8 (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1q3q6493amjh48qzjzp50n4ecg0gr2nf0ky6frz8) (and marks it as "COMPROMISED, don't use again" in his wallet), I will try my best to "steal" the 0.00067408 BTC. If I succeed, transaction 22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169 (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/22d63c93ae2e93c646c23630893b305b3536152dce4c9689ed8e25a42a431169) becomes invalid and you can send your 0.06790889 BTC (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qpyvd9nvc2k2aeep7e8zshmqzps4n2fm7m6hw8l) again with a normal fee. As a bonus, all your child transactions with very expensive CPFP fees won't be needed (nor possible) either.
If I fail to "steal" your friend's 0.00067408 BTC, nothing changes.

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how long time would it take for it to get dropped from mempool and just come back to wallet #1?
If the wallet keeps broadcasting the transaction, it won't drop out of mempool.

Dont think he will provide any private keys, so the transaction could be "lost" forever? I tought mempool drops transaction after 2 weeks.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: HCP on April 22, 2021, 10:24:01 PM
The "good news" is that the transaction "399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3 (https://mempool.space/tx/399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3)" was confirmed a couple of blocks ago! :D

as were all the child transactions all the way to 33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071 (https://mempool.space/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071)...

All the transactions were included in block 680200. I'm assuming that the fee levels dropped to a point that the combined CPFP, kicked in and then everything got picked up by a miner wanting the 600/900/1500 sats/byte fees etc

In any case, all your transactions are now confirmed and your Electrum wallet should be showing that all the transactions have been seen/received as confirmed etc.


Title: Re: Help please guys... Unconfirmed transaction.. Only I pro can figure this out :(
Post by: idontknowwhattodo on April 23, 2021, 02:02:06 AM
The "good news" is that the transaction "399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3 (https://mempool.space/tx/399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3)" was confirmed a couple of blocks ago! :D

as were all the child transactions all the way to 33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071 (https://mempool.space/tx/33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071)...

All the transactions were included in block 680200. I'm assuming that the fee levels dropped to a point that the combined CPFP, kicked in and then everything got picked up by a miner wanting the 600/900/1500 sats/byte fees etc

In any case, all your transactions are now confirmed and your Electrum wallet should be showing that all the transactions have been seen/received as confirmed etc.

Yes sir :)