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April 21, 2021, 03:07:56 PM
Last edit: April 21, 2021, 03:24:59 PM by idontknowwhattodo
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So how can I get my 0.069 that was once confirmed, but sent with an unconfirmed 0.009 to my other wallet back? (Only care for the 0.069)

It seems like when I "mixed" my confirmed with the unconfirmed.. they got stuck? I asked my friend to double spend the 0.009 as well.. and this was day 2 maybe. BUT he did it after I already spent them togheter and sending them to wallet #2.


So witch one do I accelerate 00.00?

And can I do something else about my 0.069 to get it confirmed..? The CPFP didnt help... neither did double spending it.

If i keep upping the CPFP in wallet #2 that is already 5600sat does that do anything?

Wallet #2

https://anonfiles.com/pfD2s5s2u9/spend_png

https://anonfiles.com/R8D5sbs2u6/wallett_png

ID for 0.0072 that is the confirmed 0.0069 and unconfirmed 0.0009 together

db17f0bf57f876e3cacbfc1614a1bf85e85c243453f8d89ea34c85c52d341bae

ID for CPHP that was supposed to speed up the transaction:

33d7037366ef418c5b97f7cbc877ac2f0c8b7a1f34db26f1e607f69ac38d9071

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Wallet #1


https://anonfiles.com/RfE4s0saud/w1_png

https://anonfiles.com/VeE0s8s7u1/w12_png

The balance is still at wallet #2 as you can see..

All the CPHP ID that was used in wallet #1

acc3a9f38739600537a270c416845b900d687a810ef8f5329183ff5b863a6351

c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175

ec37e29e725e4aa899b2254cd3b04bb1c8da2b6e1272bbd4cf46269821458bbf

b501b903454f9865645f7cd1240ca6072db1161518b2ee0035780946e6d5373b


I hope I was clear enough now... so what can be done?
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April 21, 2021, 03:53:39 PM
Last edit: April 21, 2021, 04:17:49 PM by LoyceV
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I did double spent it so it went back to the old wallet....
What exactly did you do to double spend it?
Did you right-click the -67.90889 transaction > Cancel (double-spend), and try to send it back to your own address with a higher fee?

For next time: enable the Coins tab in Electrum, manually select ("control") which inputs to use, then right-click "Spend".

Update: with some manual copy/pasting, I used coinb.in to create this unsigned transaction with a rediculously high fee:
Code:
0100000001ec1b361292c722587011909e6a2586e2442594aca205ba4b46ee9e557787b3a101000000140918d2cd985595dce43ec9c50bec020c2b35277efdffffff01e03b6600000000001600140918d2cd985595dce43ec9c50bec020c2b35277e00000000
I have no idea if it could work, and as a warning: you shouldn't use anyting like this without fully understanding what you're doing (I've never tested this before, don't trust me on this!). Can anyone verify this could work?

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April 21, 2021, 05:45:49 PM
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I will try that but why should I bump that transaction.. can you explain please..Check my photo.
It's everything what I've already explained, you can accelerate it to be able to send those children transactions but
the good news is: the screenshot seems to connect and you have a chance to invalidate the CPFP transactions with very huge fee.
Now let me connect and edit your screenshot in simplest way possible:

Edited (various color) over your edits (red):

The numbers are the same as my previous transaction list excluding the parent which I believe from your friend's wallet:
I don't know how you managed to perform multiple CPFP using Electrum, manually created CPFP txns I guess.

Basically, you need to use RBF to transaction #2 to be able to cancel the succeeding transactions.
Luckily, it's marked as RBF: c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175
Use: "right-click->increase fee" to #2, set a higher fee rate than what's previously set sign &broadcast and that will cancel out txn marked as #3~#6.

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April 21, 2021, 10:15:49 PM
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I will try that but why should I bump that transaction.. can you explain please..Check my photo.
It's everything what I've already explained, you can accelerate it to be able to send those children transactions but
the good news is: the screenshot seems to connect and you have a chance to invalidate the CPFP transactions with very huge fee.
Now let me connect and edit your screenshot in simplest way possible:

Edited (various color) over your edits (red):
https://i.imgur.com/3R6f001.png
The numbers are the same as my previous transaction list excluding the parent which I believe from your friend's wallet:
I don't know how you managed to perform multiple CPFP using Electrum, manually created CPFP txns I guess.

Basically, you need to use RBF to transaction #2 to be able to cancel the succeeding transactions.
Luckily, it's marked as RBF: c5dfe68e9816e931b17536ada747140a4a29dcd0ca93a8e32215b96372d89175
Use: "right-click->increase fee" to #2, set a higher fee rate than what's previously set sign &broadcast and that will cancel out txn marked as #3~#6.

Okey, as I dont have any more to BTC in the wallet I will send some to it..but how much? The fee has to be changed to minimum 1mBTC, should I put more?

I guess this will make the transaction come back to my wallet and restore the previous sent CPFP transaction as you mentioned?

Should I Use ETA, Static or Mempool? Dont know the diffrence and whats better?

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April 21, 2021, 10:59:31 PM
Last edit: April 21, 2021, 11:12:51 PM by BitMaxz
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I did not create this one and dont understand how it can be the parent... Ive done I very clear picture of how it all was for those who maybe mixed up stuff?

https://anonfiles.com/7fiascs3ue/Clear_png

Should I make a rebuild of the 0.069 mBTC and how do I calculate for only that.. for as now I dont care for the 0.09... !

Edit: Thats to much fee, almost the whole balance.

It's just an option if you are in hurry and want to confirm the parent transaction right away but if not don't do it

I still confuse about your wallet why all outputs are not there from that parent transaction look at the image on my post above if you don't have control of those addresses/outputs then you can't able to do double-spend because you can't able to sign the transaction unless if you have control of those address/outputs.



Can you try to open this coins tab click the view>show coins then go to coins tab it looks like this

Source of img: https://www.massmux.com/how-to-create-and-send-an-on-chain-transaction-with-electrum-4/

It must show all outputs that I pointing out in my previous post if not then you don't have control of those outputs and it's not in your wallet.
If it's from your friend's wallet as nc50lc said above then you can't do anything but to wait or submit the parent transaction to an accelerator or look for someone who mines on f2pool to request to submit the parent transaction to put it in high priority.

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April 21, 2021, 11:20:01 PM
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Okey, as I dont have any more to BTC in the wallet I will send some to it..but how much? The fee has to be changed to minimum 1mBTC, should I put more?
You don't have to add any extra fund to your wallet.
Just right click on that transaction and select "Increase fee".

As you don't have any extra fund in your wallet, the added fee will be deducted from the sending amount.

I guess this will make the transaction come back to my wallet and restore the previous sent CPFP transaction as you mentioned?
Correct.
By doing RBF for transaction number 2, transaction number 3 will be invalidated and the 0.0679 BTC will be unstuck.

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Use: "right-click->increase fee" to #2, set a higher fee rate than what's previously set sign &broadcast and that will cancel out txn marked as #3~#6.
Okey, as I dont have any more to BTC in the wallet I will send some to it..but how much? The fee has to be changed to minimum 1mBTC, should I put more?
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Why's there a local transaction? The one with blue computer icon.
Electrum might use that as additional input for the RBF and make your transaction invalid depending if that transaction is valid in mempools or blockchain.
Remove it first by "Right-click->Remove".

Then perform RBF to transaction #2, but use the advanced setting:

Using this setting, Electrum won't add additional input but deduct the additional fee from the amount to be sent, but deleting the local transaction is still suggested for various reasons.
For the additional fee, you don't have to add too much, additional 1sat/vB is a valid bump. Setting it from 909.1 sat/vB to 920sat/vB is excessive enough.

I'd also like to inform you that you're running out of time, the more time passed, the higher the chance for the transaction chain to get confirmed.
After 1 confirmation, you won't be able to invalidate the very-high-fee CPFP transactions.

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Use: "right-click->increase fee" to #2, set a higher fee rate than what's previously set sign &broadcast and that will cancel out txn marked as #3~#6.
Okey, as I dont have any more to BTC in the wallet I will send some to it..but how much? The fee has to be changed to minimum 1mBTC, should I put more?
-snip-
Why's there a local transaction? The one with blue computer icon.
Electrum might use that as additional input for the RBF and make your transaction invalid depending if that transaction is valid in mempools or blockchain.
Remove it first by "Right-click->Remove".

Then perform RBF to transaction #2, but use the advanced setting:
https://i.imgur.com/qd4EirN.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/FbQPZut.png
Using this setting, Electrum won't add additional input but deduct the additional fee from the amount to be sent, but deleting the local transaction is still suggested for various reasons.
For the additional fee, you don't have to add too much, additional 1sat/vB is a valid bump. Setting it from 909.1 sat/vB to 920sat/vB is excessive enough.

I'd also like to inform you that you're running out of time, the more time passed, the higher the chance for the transaction chain to get confirmed.
After 1 confirmation, you won't be able to invalidate the very-high-fee CPFP transactions.

I cannot do this decrese.... It says when I press the normal without decrase I dont have sufficent fund... neither can I dont any thing now check:

https://i.ibb.co/sb7Gy6y/dont.png
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Last edit: April 22, 2021, 02:59:35 AM by idontknowwhattodo
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Okey, as I dont have any more to BTC in the wallet I will send some to it..but how much? The fee has to be changed to minimum 1mBTC, should I put more?
You don't have to add any extra fund to your wallet.
Just right click on that transaction and select "Increase fee".

As you don't have any extra fund in your wallet, the added fee will be deducted from the sending amount.

I guess this will make the transaction come back to my wallet and restore the previous sent CPFP transaction as you mentioned?
Correct.
By doing RBF for transaction number 2, transaction number 3 will be invalidated and the 0.0679 BTC will be unstuck.

I tried them all... this is what I got:

https://ibb.co/JrJyM3B  Tried this with decrease.... it showed this: https://ibb.co/nDFfYQk



I tried the normal to raise fee.. https://ibb.co/g93LNw9 it showed me this: https://ibb.co/FXcRSfZ

So I guess I need to deposit more to make this? What do I even earn on it if paying another 920sat if we compare it to every CPHP?

Wow.. i knew i was scrued... im in big problem if this doesnt fix soon Sad

Edit: What now do I transfer anything to this wallet or not?
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April 22, 2021, 03:00:39 AM
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I cannot do this decrese.... It says when I press the normal without decrase I dont have sufficent fund... neither can I dont any thing now check:

Hmm, the rule it's referring to is the replacement should be at least able to pay the additional minimum fee.

Okay, I get it, the current mempoolminfee is higher than 1sat/vB because of the high average mempool size (missed that detail).
Using the same advanced setting, try to add more fee than what you've set until the server accepts your replacement transaction.

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April 22, 2021, 03:36:22 AM
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I cannot do this decrese.... It says when I press the normal without decrase I dont have sufficent fund... neither can I dont any thing now check:
https://i.ibb.co/sb7Gy6y/dont.png
Hmm, the rule it's referring to is the replacement should be at least able to pay the additional minimum fee.

Okay, I get it, the current mempoolminfee is higher than 1sat/vB because of the high average mempool size (missed that detail).
Using the same advanced setting, try to add more fee than what you've set until the server accepts your replacement transaction.

So what should I try to add BTC to this account or not so I can pay the higher fee?
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But for some reason aside from their server being non-responsive during HH:00, I'm having trouble submitting OP's parent transaction, already tried 4 times.

I think it is because you missed an unconfirmed transaction in the chain... the last one in your list ("22d63c") has an unconfirmed parent: 399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3

It has 64 inputs, 2 outputs and a fee rate of 25.1 sat/vbyte Undecided and it creates one of the 148 inputs used in the "22d63c" transaction Undecided


So, if you manage to accelerate the "399f78" transaction and get that one confirmed, you will then be able to accelerate the "22d63c" one.

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April 22, 2021, 04:30:30 AM
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I cannot do this decrese.... It says when I press the normal without decrase I dont have sufficent fund... neither can I dont any thing now check:
https://i.ibb.co/sb7Gy6y/dont.png
Hmm, the rule it's referring to is the replacement should be at least able to pay the additional minimum fee.

Okay, I get it, the current mempoolminfee is higher than 1sat/vB because of the high average mempool size (missed that detail).
Using the same advanced setting, try to add more fee than what you've set until the server accepts your replacement transaction.

So what should I try to add BTC to this account or not so I can pay the higher fee?

Nope, Just try to add more fee until the server accept the transaction as mentioned using the same settings, you dont have to deposit balance!

What are you talking about? How can I increase something without having enough balance for it?
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April 22, 2021, 04:51:02 AM
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I cannot do this decrese.... It says when I press the normal without decrase I dont have sufficent fund... neither can I dont any thing now check:
https://i.ibb.co/sb7Gy6y/dont.png
Hmm, the rule it's referring to is the replacement should be at least able to pay the additional minimum fee.

Okay, I get it, the current mempoolminfee is higher than 1sat/vB because of the high average mempool size (missed that detail).
Using the same advanced setting, try to add more fee than what you've set until the server accepts your replacement transaction.

So what should I try to add BTC to this account or not so I can pay the higher fee?

Nope, Just try to add more fee until the server accept the transaction as mentioned using the same settings, you dont have to deposit balance!

What are you talking about? How can I increase something without having enough balance for it?

Well, nc50lc means, repeat the same steps, but by increasing the transaction fees in the text box next to the word "New fee rate" while keeping the same settings as the previous time

- If It refuses / gives error again, try again with a higher fee than the previous one.

- Fees are deducted from the transaction itself and not from your balance, these are the settings. You will not need credit. This is what was mentioned.


Nope doesnt work.... what do I do?
But for some reason aside from their server being non-responsive during HH:00, I'm having trouble submitting OP's parent transaction, already tried 4 times.

I think it is because you missed an unconfirmed transaction in the chain... the last one in your list ("22d63c") has an unconfirmed parent: 399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3

It has 64 inputs, 2 outputs and a fee rate of 25.1 sat/vbyte Undecided and it creates one of the 148 inputs used in the "22d63c" transaction Undecided


So, if you manage to accelerate the "399f78" transaction and get that one confirmed, you will then be able to accelerate the "22d63c" one.


Witch one? Be more clear.. Why isnt it the other one nc50lc mention above then?
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April 22, 2021, 05:05:53 AM
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Witch one? Be more clear.. Why isnt it the other one nc50lc mention above then?
I'm not sure how I can be any more clear than: "accelerate the '399f78' transaction"? Huh

But this one... https://mempool.space/tx/399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3

You need to get that transaction confirmed before ANY of your transactions are going to be able to be confirmed. So, try and get that accelerated using https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator


It isn't the one nc50lc mentioned, because the one nc50lc mentioned is a "child" of this unconfirmed transaction.

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April 22, 2021, 05:19:04 AM
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Witch one? Be more clear.. Why isnt it the other one nc50lc mention above then?
I'm not sure how I can be any more clear than: "accelerate the '399f78' transaction"? Huh

But this one... https://mempool.space/tx/399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3

You need to get that transaction confirmed before ANY of your transactions are going to be able to be confirmed. So, try and get that accelerated using https://www.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator


It isn't the one nc50lc mentioned, because the one nc50lc mentioned is a "child" of this unconfirmed transaction.

Okey I dont have access to that one.. so I cant get my once confirmed transaction because of some wallet before me.. I dont doubt you its just... i dont know. I need this money asap.. When do u think they will confrim at this rate and can I cancel all the child or something ?

Edit: Btw This Viabtc is trash... I tried it 00.00 as told.. 1h before after and all day.... Limit bla bla.. not working.

Edit: If i get hold of my friend and he makes the fee higher or can he even do that? I mean 900 sat for those transaktions.. how much is needed wtf???
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April 22, 2021, 05:32:29 AM
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Okay, I get it, the current mempoolminfee is higher than 1sat/vB because of the high average mempool size (missed that detail).
Using the same advanced setting, try to add more fee than what you've set until the server accepts your replacement transaction.
So what should I try to add BTC to this account or not so I can pay the higher fee?
Just do the same, "right-click->Increase fee->Advanced setting->decrease payment", but instead of putting 920sat/B, increase it to 950sat/B,
if still returned with same error, repeat but set 1000sat/B.
You don't have to add funds, by using that option, your wallet will just deduct the additional fee from the output.

It's caused by an unconfirmed parent that has a quite low fee rate and a huge transaction size, you've made an unconfirmed transaction chain consisting of 7 transactions:
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I think it is because you missed an unconfirmed transaction in the chain... the last one in your list ("22d63c") has an unconfirmed parent: 399f7843fdfb4aedf56353730bacba5f9ff9aad5d462a3e245de07ac8373b8a3
Ah, so that's the reason why I can't accelerate the parent yesterday, because one of its 147 inputs is unconfirmed.
Anyways, OP now wants to cancel his multiple CPFP transactions with very very huge transactions fees. He can do that by using RBF to the first CPFP transaction in the chain that he initiated through his wallet.
Refer to post #23

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Okey I dont have access to that one.. so I cant get my once confirmed transaction because of some wallet before me.. I dont doubt you its just... i dont know. I need this money asap.. When do u think they will confrim at this rate and can I cancel all the child or something ?
At this rate of 25 sats/vbyte... and given the current state of the network... it will likely take days to confirm that transaction. Undecided


Edit: Btw This Viabtc is trash... I tried it 00.00 as told.. 1h before after and all day.... Limit bla bla.. not working.
You need to try it in the very first second of every hour (not just 00.00)... so every single hour you can try (00.00, 01.00, 02.00, 03.00... 23.00 24.00)... but you have to remember, there are like 200,000+ unconfirmed transactions at the moment... and ViaBTC only allow 100 slots every hour.

There will be literally thousands of people (and bots) competing for those 100 slots. No one said it would be easy... but it does work. And to be honest, it seems like it is literally your only shot of getting any of your transactions sorted, unless you want to pay ridiculous sums to ViaBTC or BTC.com to use their paid services.


Edit: If i get hold of my friend and he makes the fee higher or can he even do that? I mean 900 sat for those transaktions.. how much is needed wtf???
A transaction sent now... only requires about 200+ sats/vbyte... the problem is that you're also having to pay for the ridiculous 148 inputs transaction AND the 64 input transaction that both only paid 25 sats/vbyte. Undecided

That's what CPFP is: "Child Pays For Parent"... you are trying to pay enough to cover ALL the unconfirmed parent transactions. And because those unconfirmed parent transactions are so large in data size... and paid such small fees... it drags down the "effective" fee rate paid by the CPFP transactions you have been trying to make Undecided

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April 22, 2021, 07:08:42 AM
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Okey I dont have access to that one.. so I cant get my once confirmed transaction because of some wallet before me.. I dont doubt you its just... i dont know. I need this money asap.. When do u think they will confrim at this rate and can I cancel all the child or something ?
At this rate of 25 sats/vbyte... and given the current state of the network... it will likely take days to confirm that transaction. Undecided


Edit: Btw This Viabtc is trash... I tried it 00.00 as told.. 1h before after and all day.... Limit bla bla.. not working.
You need to try it in the very first second of every hour (not just 00.00)... so every single hour you can try (00.00, 01.00, 02.00, 03.00... 23.00 24.00)... but you have to remember, there are like 200,000+ unconfirmed transactions at the moment... and ViaBTC only allow 100 slots every hour.

There will be literally thousands of people (and bots) competing for those 100 slots. No one said it would be easy... but it does work. And to be honest, it seems like it is literally your only shot of getting any of your transactions sorted, unless you want to pay ridiculous sums to ViaBTC or BTC.com to use their paid services.


Edit: If i get hold of my friend and he makes the fee higher or can he even do that? I mean 900 sat for those transaktions.. how much is needed wtf???
A transaction sent now... only requires about 200+ sats/vbyte... the problem is that you're also having to pay for the ridiculous 148 inputs transaction AND the 64 input transaction that both only paid 25 sats/vbyte. Undecided

That's what CPFP is: "Child Pays For Parent"... you are trying to pay enough to cover ALL the unconfirmed parent transactions. And because those unconfirmed parent transactions are so large in data size... and paid such small fees... it drags down the "effective" fee rate paid by the CPFP transactions you have been trying to make Undecided

Okey but can the guy with access to this transaction up the fee to a lets say 300 and rebroadcast it? Is that the solution maybe? If this doesnt work... how long will I wait?
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Edit: Btw This Viabtc is trash... I tried it 00.00 as told.. 1h before after and all day.... Limit bla bla.. not working.
I wouldn't call them "trash": they offer a free service that's in high demand.

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Edit: If i get hold of my friend and he makes the fee higher or can he even do that? I mean 900 sat for those transaktions.. how much is needed wtf???
Have you suggested to just double spend one of the inputs and start over, instead of paying more and more on transaction fees, then sending a new transaction which you won't spend before it's confirmed?

Okey but can the guy with access to this transaction up the fee to a lets say 300 and rebroadcast it? Is that the solution maybe? If this doesnt work... how long will I wait?
The current fee is 0.00252725 BTC for 25 sat/vbyte. If he's willing to go 12 times higher, that's 0.03 BTC ($1600). It would make it much more likely to confirm, but it's a terrible waste of money.

Update: this transaction (the one sending 0.13350876 BTC to 1EUjutQBMWGySX587StRxUMo8JDyhj8o1c) shortly gave a 404 on Blockchair.com. I'm not sure if that's a flaw or result of a different transaction being broadcasted.

My advice (for your friend):
he should try to replace his stuck transaction that sends you 0.009 BTC. Even if he just sends one of the inputs elsewhere with a much higher fee, that would be enough to cancel all your child transactions.

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