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Thanks to all and this wonderful community. Finally after so much pressure from you guys they allowed me to withdraw my winnings without any terms and conditions. I am sharing a chat screen shot which I saved for this time to show all that how wonderful and powerful bitcointalk really is.
https://i.ibb.co/9vYdccD/fff.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Thanks to all once again from the bottom of my heart.

Those who want full story read below:



As we know nitrogensports and nitrobetting are same,

I registered to nitrobetting.eu and won a freeroll which allowed me to enter in 1.5mbtc tournament. Please keep in mind that though I won my seat via free roll but the end tournament which I won was not free roll and many people buy for 0.1mbtc.
Fortunately I won the tournament and got 1.01mbtc as first prize. All thing are going smooth and I ordered a cash out.
Now the real story starts, first they told me that my payout will be processed in few minutes. (check image below)
https://i.ibb.co/1mv15hv/chat-1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

When after waiting for hours to get my poker winnings, I again ping them on live chat then they started the story; They told me that there is a problem with your account and our account specialist will mail you.
https://i.ibb.co/SNnJK0m/c3.jpg (https://ibb.co/2qt5jPM)

Now suddenly all my winnings were gone and and they finally replied me this;

Our apologies about the confusion with your account.
Management has reviewed your account and determined how we will proceed.
Given the fact that your full account balance are winnings from a
freeroll, those funds are conditional.
You need to become an active client, with a valid deposit and provide us
with action in order to be able to cash out.
We have released your balance(1.01mBTC) as a bonus offer which you can
activate right now.
Once you have a deposit and start playing, your rake will count towards
turning the Freeroll winnings into cash.
We understand that you think your winnings were not a freeroll, but they
are promotional funds. You won a ticket on a freeroll and that ticket
granted you entry to another tournament where you won cash. So the full
balance is considered promotional funds.
Since you are not an active client and show no history of deposit, you
need to deposit into the account and be active in order for us to honor
promotional cash funds.
You can see the bonus offer right now on your account and activate it.
The 1.01 requires 5 times in rake in order to be released as cash (5.05
mBTC).
Let us know if you have any questions.
Lizbeth
Customer Support Manager


(check image below)

https://i.ibb.co/qdn6Zjb/chatter-f.jpg (https://ibb.co/nb0pWmh)


Now this is totally unacceptable for me. First of all its not a free roll that I won and second ally they just decided to convert my poker tournament winnings as a bonus, what a joke. So basically for getting my poker tournament winnings I have to pay 5 time the rake.
BTC

In case they have left any shame below is my bitcoin wallet for cash out
1L8Bz77UehWN3YxcmTLHSRJiBZ2JPMosRK


Just pay that man his money.

The terms are what they are but its not ok to just cancel the winnings and offer them as a bonus which has to be played through via rake.

Thats some new type of scam they are pulling.

But its true u have to have made a deposit first, maybe bet it 1 time.

Yeah I understood the need of a single deposit but these terms are just plain scam. I posted this so that no one will fall for this again. I wonder how  they are carrying the brand of nitrogen. 

Just open a flag I will support it, they need  to learn a good lesson here.

Why would they credit the bonus into your account in the first place if you didn't meet the turnover requirements?

At least that's what I read from their rules - https://nitrobetting.eu/rules-regulations/
That being said, So should avoid them all together, they are shady and some else complained about them earlier on (🤷‍♂️ Bizarre activity at 🤦‍♂️👽 NitroBetting.eu- Changing min bet to 1BTC?? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5323277.0))

They are a sister company to Nitrogen sports, another shady gambling site. Just check out their reputation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=88706)

Yikes. What do they have to gain from this? they are just wasting yours and their time.  No matter the site, when I see something in my "main" balance, that always told me all the requirements are meant (or they're are none), I crossed my t's, dotted my i's and that balance is  mine to do as I wish.

Furthermore I just checked their cash games and literally 0 people are playing so it's going to be next to impossible to meet that rollover. If they MUST do it this way, give us a chance to roll it over through the casino or sportsbook.

Exactly my reactions initially.
The thing is it is completely unethical and immoral to force a winner to play by stopping him to cash out his rightful winnings, that is what hurt me. This is clearly the difference between a professional platform (who understand poker and how difficult is to win two tourneys back to back) and a complete hoax scam artist.
You can not simply arbitrarily ask winner to generate 300$ of rake to cash out 50$ which you won fair and squared.
Another thing that bothers me is following,
If they are not releasing my winnings which are straight from other peoples pocket (other players buy ins) how come they will be paying casino winnings which will be form their own pocket. I will honestly advise anyone who is thinking of making any deposit there to stay away.
 

I understand what they did is completely wrong but please can you explain what you mean by pay that man his money? Is this not your own case?

He was  quoting the movie "Rounders" in a meme-ish kinda way

I don't get it why they would give you freeroll when if you win they won't allow you to withdraw?

It's not the honest way for promoting the betting site as it's just making the users go waste their time. Now it's going to ruin their reputation instead. No matter how small or big the amount he won, it deserves to be sent to him. 

The business doesn't really expect that someone with a free roll is going to hit it big so they have to find a way to make the winner miserable by making it look like the player cheated the system. I do agree that the player has to receive the win, withholding makes the site a bitter loser in the face of things.

They also had the same rules on their sports promotions where if you win one of their bitcoin prizes and a new player you're also forced to deposit and provide some action before you get to withdraw the promo reward.

I think they already knew this would happen since they have a specific requirement for new players while regular players are free to withdraw these rewards.

By specific requirement you mean deposit equal to you tournament winnings ( which is not a free roll) and generate 5x rake of your winnings?

Its a very common terms on most of the gambling sites because they run promotion to attract players and make money from them so they will not give any advantage to players who just came here with free roll or whatever which happened for real, its not scam but not fair so its your decision now whether you want to deposit some money and take out the winnings or just let it there forever.

Name any reputable poker platform which require you to deposit and generate rake equal to  five time your tournament winnings and I will keep silent for ever. The thing is hat it is plan scam and if I will not expose they will carry on with these type of things.

What they are asking him to do is virtually impossible since the cash games rarely run, if ever.

I agree the promo terms where you're forced to roll it over is very common but not all sites require you to rollover the reward 5x.

From my experience the usual rollover on most sites is very low like 1x or maybe 2x at best.

Yes, since that's what they require based on your screenshot.

Now they are showing their true Gills by this.

just 1.01 mbtc and they are willing to reveal their identity just because the winning comes from free roll? they should have not offer this free roll after all.

Why they allow non active player to be part of the competition and they force to deposit before giving the wins? an obvious SCAM Strategy so you will lose first before they give your win.

Sorry for your experience mate but Just look at the brighter side .

Imagine that you played and Win without any single amount depositing , so what more those who had been scammed by Nitrogen with deposit history?

do they must felt more harder than what's yours?

Best not to trust this site and better never deposit as what they are advising you for claiming.

i think you need to Post in their ANN Thread also like this one did and the Red Tagged Owner of Nitrogen respond easily?


though i doubt if they will Go to favor you in the end  ;D

Yes, the amount they are asking is too huge but it maybe their strategy and its their terms which is also same as nitrogensports if I am nit wrong then why OP wants to win a promotion from them when they have such greedy terms favours them more.

If they don't want gamblers to win using free roll then they should not have free roll if they can't afford to pay the cash out. It only made them a very shady gambling site even if it's in their terms. You can do what the other complainant to nitrogensports and then later on if it's resolved then makw it neutral but if not then you can keep it as red and stay away from it.

In both Nitrogen and Nitrobetting,  Their Poker FAQ Has   This implies someone can deposit, place a bet in sports or casino, and they are good to go with poker freerolls. Nothing about a 5x rollover. What gives here?



Another issue:   As far as I can tell, the two sites run completely different tournaments and cash games.  So it's still wrong to play at both sites?

seriously any serious reputable poker platform will laugh at this, so what nitrogen is saying that I played two freerolls? Is 0.1mbtc buy in 1.5mbtc gtd is a free roll? The answer is NO. So my winnings are not from free roll.
Now lets come back to free roll which I won which clearly is a free roll, and I won 0.1mbtc ticket ( non cashable), which I was not able to cash out so there is no question of cashing out free rolls.
Also what happens to the buy ins of other players who bought in for 0.1mbtc ? Isnt it the plain scam.
Even if I forget all the above and accept the logic of nitro ( which is clearly false), wtf is 5x roll over ( that too is of generated rake)?
And most importantly what is about all my stress and efforts that I have put in just for fighting my genuine case, will it go uncompensated?


Not to mention that they are portraying free rolls winners as they have done something wrong by winning free roll, lol. Al most every reputable website pay the free roll winners without any silly conditions. It is completely unethical and no wonder their tables are empty.

Then maybe play on professional platforms and avoid such places. What was the reason that you decided to play there in the first place? Let me guess, seemingly better bonuses, conditions, and all that, than on other sites, right? That should be a red flag, no? That and zero to no reviews on legitimate sites. I've checked it and found that there's no trustworthy positive review on nitrobetting. I wouldn't expect much from such a site.

This reasons only make it ridiculous and made people lose their trust on their gambling platform. Not just shady but really a scammy tactics that leads people to waste their effort on playing with their tournaments. Excuses or whatsoever reason is that, still there's a serious problem happening in this site. I'm just hoping after all sorts of reported case would be taken action just to prove their end in order to fix their errors.

Reading all the bad reviews about Nitrogensports, they should address this issues as soon as possible to prevent the gambler from staying away into this platform. If those free roll being used to gamble and win big, that can be a legit win though terms and conditions will be the basis of the team, I don’t think its fair since the player gambler with a clean money and not from anyone else money. Its shady to hear this kind of problem, I’ll keep my neutral stand on this matter and hoping for the good solution.

You cant win big with those tickets. He won 50$, thats all.

You won a ticket on a freeroll and that ticket
granted you entry to another tournament where you won cash. So the full
balance is considered promotional funds.

Lmao, just look at the analogy of casino, are you kidding me?? What a genius plan to avoid winnings!!!
OP as I said earlier open a flag against them. 
This is hilarious though no matter what.  ;D ;D ;D

They have a history of troubling gamblers and that is why nitrogen is not as popular as it used to be when I first came into the crypto gambling market.

It is a very complicated case because Nitrogen wants to make sure that freeroll players make a deposit but if that's the case they should have made that clear within the promo details.

I mean he hasn't won something like 1 BTC either. According to me, the best solution would have been to pay the player but make a strong reply that next time onwards free roll players will have to make a deposit before they are allowed to withdraw. After he has won and them asking him to deppsit just makes me feel super weird.

That's right, I mean if you have a really shitty RNG programmed in your gambling games then you shouldn't hassle your players and be bitter when they win with your giveaways, you look like a bully and a douchebag in the eyes of many people because you don't accept the fact that someone got a win with their free roll.

Then wait for a lifetime for this to happen, if Nitrogen will really pay you then they should have done that secretly but since you arrived in this thread meaning there are nothing you have to receive.

Nitrogen is one of the most scammed controversial gambling site of our time now.

To be honest I have seen external sites, other gambling site applications using the name NitrogenSports, for the purpose of cheating.

I don't blame you or NitrogenSports for your current case.

You have to read the thread below and match with the NitrogenSports site that you play officially or not in the thread below.

Topic: A scam targeting NitrogenSports users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229888.0)

At a glance you can ask them in that thread regarding your complaint, if it is true that the site you registered is listed in the thread I provided, or you register in another application with the same name as NitrogenSports.

Good luck.

^ As above was definitely right.
Probably if you are here in the forum or this section for years or months, you will be witnessed different threads created that against this gambling site, Nitrogensports. All I can say on this gambling site was working did not fair to their user, I prefer to look a new and have a reputation one than this.
It is full of bad and negative complaints towards them which is I think they are selectively freezing fund of users that they think did not follow their TOS, that has an advantage to them. Sorry for your loss, just try contacting them, and probably there will be a chance if you are lucky enough.

We can't stop them implementing such things but we can make their reputation turn bad and lose thrir gambler's trust then it will most likely that their gamblers will leave unless that gambler is not wise enough to search if there is something going on in the site or else they will be gambling without knowing that the site they are using to gamble are doing some shady tactics.

Open a scam accusation thread against them, then consider opening a flag against them as well. Be sure to provide any email or chat conversations in the accusation and/or flag.

Kinda odd they haven't responded here either.

They responded in their official thread already, no need to respond here.

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good for you. upon reading all the replies that thoughts coming was that you have registered to the wrong platform.


winning a battle must feel great.
your thread is one of the successful accusations I've seen so far that you actually collected the amount. some of them will accuse you of multiple accounts which is what i thought this discussion would go. when tables are empty most of the time, you got to check another poker platforms. congrats.

You're Welcome and it's good to know that you found another platform to play poker. I assume that you made a research first before getting involved in that platform.

Yes it's true, some will only get the amount they deposit after winning a decent amount and the amount he won are not paid to the winner which happen in some thread I came across but this one is different as stated in the original post where op did won using only the free roll and then got the winnings withdraw from them.

I am glad that your issue got resolved. Basing on the accusations I had seen in the past against them, the odds were really not in your favor, but it's awesome to know that you beat the odds.

Moving forward, I would suggest you look for better popular alternatives to avoid any heart breaks.

Maybe there is delay in reaching out the conclusion, but the final outcome is really an appreciable one. Then onwards they'll make correction to their service and you should not look for alternatives, because you only can understand if there is anything differently made for you. Every gambling site have got issues with the players, and the goodness is upon the way one overcome it. You've succeeded in it, congrats.

They just didnt bother the 50$. I mean, they were right not letting him withdraw, its clearly written in the terms. The only not cool thing they did was making it a bonus which has to be cleared by accumulating rake.

The way he complained 50$ must be a lot of money for him. Hope he doesnt lose it somewhere else.

Good to hear that Nitrogen (having multiple Issue recently) settling your Claims even at first they totally denied meaning that the pressure from the Bitcointalk community makes them act as this favoring you.

it is rare that casino sites (Specially those who had negative impression)acted as fast as this and letting you get your funds that they froze .

congrats and wish this will never happen again.

It's good that they choose to address and resolve this issue unlike the other casinos out there that seem to not care about their reputation in this forum. It definitely is rare because some of them are really bitter that someone has won a lot of money from the house and you don't want to mess with a bitter house.

You are welcome. 🙂 When I saw {RESOLVED} I couldn't believe my eyes it was resolved so fast.
Kudos to the site, by the way, for not dragging it for ages. I don't know if they read btctalk, but I'd like to believe that the reputation in this community matters to them.
Checking your address from the OP, 1L8Bz77UehWN3YxcmTLHSRJiBZ2JPMosRK, I can see that you've successfully withdrawn your money the next day. Congrats!