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Title: Peer-to-Peer Advertising, and Social Network Powered by Bitcoin + Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 18, 2021, 04:50:08 PM
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Hi! I'm building a Peer-to-Peer Ad Network called Bitfari (https://www.bitfari.org (https://www.bitfari.org)) where users can buy ad space at a dynamic price that is adjusted to foot traffic and historic performance of billboards/screens as recorded by the blockchain. This will allow advertisers to bypass agencies, newspapers, and other middlemen to gain ad space that's about 90% cheaper in most cases. The system can handle any HTML ad and any type of digital screen. I am also working on launching a variant of this system for online ads (something similar to Adwords).

Furthermore, companies can nominate any Bitcoin account as a marketing treasury and, when the balance of the account changes (either up or down) by a certain threshold, the system can start a campaign in the area of interest. Since users of the platform will be anonymous, there is greater privacy and since advertising costs are lower, discounts and promos could be greater.

==TECHNICAL DESCRIPTION==
Whitepaper: https://bitfari.org/whitepaper/ (https://bitfari.org/whitepaper/)
Light paper: https://bitfari.org/lightpaper/ (https://bitfari.org/lightpaper/)
Quick Platform Explanation for Users: https://bitfari.org/bitfari-explained/ (https://bitfari.org/bitfari-explained/)
The FARI Token: https://bitfari.org/elements/token/ (https://bitfari.org/elements/token/)
Token allocates 85% to the community. https://bitfari.org/token/#1453994617505-ff1d9d83-cc10 (https://bitfari.org/token/#1453994617505-ff1d9d83-cc10)
Initial App Roster: https://bitfari.org/2021/07/25/app-roster/ (https://bitfari.org/2021/07/25/app-roster/)
Bitfari FAQ: https://bitfari.org/faq/ (https://bitfari.org/faq/)


== THE PLATFORM==
App Live on Mainnet: https://bitfari.com
Digital Land NFT Marketplace: https://land.bitfari.com
Block Explorer: http://explorer.bitfari.com/ (http://explorer.bitfari.com/)
Foundation Website: https://www.bitfari.org (https://www.bitfari.org)
Bitfari Ecosystem: https://www.bitfari.com (https://www.bitfari.com)
Wallets: https://bitfari.org/wallets/]https://bitfari.org/wallets/]https://bitfari.org/wallets/ (https://bitfari.org/wallets/)
Token Smart Contract: https://explorer.bitfari.com/txid/SP213KNHB5QD308TEESY1ZMX1BP8EZDPG4JWD0MEA.fari-token-mn?chain=mainnet (https://explorer.bitfari.com/txid/SP213KNHB5QD308TEESY1ZMX1BP8EZDPG4JWD0MEA.fari-token-mn?chain=mainnet)

Platform Videos: https://bitfari.org/tutorials/ (https://bitfari.org/tutorials/)
iPhone App Screenshots: https://bitfari.org/the-bitfari-explorer-app/ (https://bitfari.org/the-bitfari-explorer-app/)


==TECH==
Technology Roster: https://bitfari.org/about/about-us/ (https://bitfari.org/about/about-us/)
Roadmap: https://bitfari.org/bitfari-roadmap/ (https://bitfari.org/bitfari-roadmap/)
Supported Screen/Billboard Sizes: https://bitfari.org/billboards-smart-screens/ (https://bitfari.org/billboards-smart-screens/)
Computerized Ad Sanitization and Filtering: https://bitfari.org/2021/06/19/what-is-a-social-oracle/ (https://bitfari.org/2021/06/19/what-is-a-social-oracle/)


==BUSINESS==
Network Incentives: https://bitfari.org/2021/05/26/network-incentives/ (https://bitfari.org/2021/05/26/network-incentives/)
Ad Fraud Prevention:https://bitfari.org/how-bitfari-prevents-ad-fraud/ (https://bitfari.org/how-bitfari-prevents-ad-fraud/)
Supported Screen/Billboard Sizes: https://bitfari.org/billboards-smart-screens/ (https://bitfari.org/billboards-smart-screens/)
Members of: https://bitfari.org/members-of/ (https://bitfari.org/members-of/)


https://bitfari.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Tech-Listing.jpg


==COMMUNITY==
Twitter: https://twitter.com/bitfari (https://twitter.com/bitfari) and https://twitter.com/jordhy (https://twitter.com/jordhy) (that's me!)
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bitfari (https://www.facebook.com/bitfari)
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitfari/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitfari/)
Discord: https://discord.com/invite/qC7F6BR9Bf (https://discord.com/invite/qC7F6BR9Bf)
Github: https://github.com/bitfari (https://github.com/bitfari)
Telegram: https://t.me/bitfari (https://t.me/bitfari)
Amabassador Program: https://bitfari.org/ambassadors/ (https://bitfari.org/ambassadors/)

https://bitfari.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/core-features.jpg

==EMAILS==
General inquiry: info@bitfari.org (http://info@bitfari.org)
Technical: jordhy@bitfari.org (http://jordhy@bitfari.org)


https://bitfari.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/bitfarilogo-e1623067139914.png

Thanks for checking out Bitfari and giving us your feedback. It is highly appreciated!!


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: The Cryptovator on June 18, 2021, 06:56:59 PM
I am quite curious about your concept but really complex to understand what you are trying to say. Is that advertising platform will place ads on a real-life digital billboard or are you talking about only on your apps and online ads? If it's limited to your apps means the ads would visible only to your users. If it's on about real-life ads billboards then it's helpful but I am not sure how it's helpful for crypto users. So please clear the concept in your mind. Seems you are creating a token and not conducting ICO sale, how are you gonna sell it? Can't found any exchange list.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 18, 2021, 07:13:24 PM
Good question!

The network will place ads on real-life billboards and smart screens initially. Ads can also be shown on any website or app provided the developer copies the distribution code. Token will be listed on some exchanges in a few months.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 18, 2021, 07:17:17 PM
I am quite curious about your concept but really complex to understand what you are trying to say. Is that advertising platform will place ads on a real-life digital billboard or are you talking about only on your apps and online ads? If it's limited to your apps means the ads would visible only to your users. If it's on about real-life ads billboards then it's helpful but I am not sure how it's helpful for crypto users. So please clear the concept in your mind. Seems you are creating a token and not conducting ICO sale, how are you gonna sell it? Can't found any exchange list.

There is no planned ICO at this point. Tokens are obtained by joining the network: either installing a screen, auditing ads, installing one of the wallets, etc. We will be on testnet in August and will list some tokens on exchanges so people can use the platform. The token will also be sold thru our platforms or authorized apps that have connected to the network.  


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 18, 2021, 07:45:35 PM
I am quite curious about your concept but really complex to understand what you are trying to say. Is that advertising platform will place ads on a real-life digital billboard or are you talking about only on your apps and online ads? If it's limited to your apps means the ads would visible only to your users. If it's on about real-life ads billboards then it's helpful but I am not sure how it's helpful for crypto users. So please clear the concept in your mind. Seems you are creating a token and not conducting ICO sale, how are you gonna sell it? Can't found any exchange list.


Forgot to answer the question about how this benefits crypto. In a nutshell:

- Real life ads for crypto products purchased thru bitcoin or faris at a discount - think BTC atm with billboard ads nearby driving traffic to them or branding campaigns for defi consumer products. Also note that Google and Facebook are banning ICO ads.

- Realtime marketing depending on the balance of monitored crypto wallets is a game change. This automates marketing for online and offline companies.

- Global marketing. Today it is not easy to advertise globally on billboards or offline mediums. Crypto needs a global avenue for branding and distribution. Our platform can distribute those messages everywhere, cheaply.

- Digital billboard operation is a great way to earn crypto passively with minimum intervention, also equipment costs next to nothing. You can start with a $500 Smart TV and project ads there.

- Have you developed a wallet but Google will not show their ads on your app? We distribute ads anywhere allowing you to monetize your open source crypto projects.

- Investment. Fhe fari token's intrisic value is projecting a 30 second ad to 1% of the screens in the network. Since successful ad networks grow exponentially, we expect the token to become a very successful investment - THIS IS NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE THOUGH.

So our timeline is as follows: the whitepaper is out, the website is out, the blockchain is coded and the token has been integrated with five wallets. We are in the process of finishing the clients (billboard ad projector, explorer app for customers, etc) and will deploy everything to testnet on Aug. 22. As of today, we have multiple repositories publicly available for review on Github. After revisions, audits, customer feedback, etc. We might be on mainnet on or before Jan 2022.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: stompix on June 18, 2021, 08:05:40 PM
I was intrigued by the economical part of it, not exactly the design, it's not really a unique concept, I've seen quite a few of them lately.

This will allow users to bypass agencies, newspapers, and other middlemen to gain ad space that's 90% cheaper.

Just how will those ads be 10% cheaper? Let's be realistic here, nobody is earning 10% only of what the advertisers pay, otherwise, this whole industry would have been dead a long time. 50% might be doable for extreme examples but 10%? Not buying  ;D this, especially since you're offering a little too many freebies, not sure if you're not making this to be more attractive then it would be economically viable.

Also this:
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It will not be atypical for a Bitfari economy participant to open up his/her wallet, perform 15 minutes of work and receive enough compensation to pay for a car.

Ads would be cheaper as you said they will cover the same amount of people with 10% of the cost but at the same time watching 15 minutes of ads would cover a car lease? Hmmm!

Next:
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A store owner might close the store and keep operating his/her screen to save money for a future business. As is stated in Bitfari’s code, businesses will receive:
1 million free ad showings in screens of their city/market. This incentive will half every four years.

Again, you're showering participants with freebies, 1 million free views, good! What happens when you have 1000 businesses signing up, you need 1 billion ad views that need to be viewed and you're delivering those for free so who's going to be paying for the above user's car when that much free stuff gets has to view in the first time?

Now, I want to address one thing about auditors

What are you going to do when auditors get together for reasons that are politically or socially motivated, you have seen how people react when boycotting products or other more recent cases harassing businesses. If 51% of the auditors in an area don't like a billboard because they consider it let's say racist although it is not who is going to keep such a mob in check?

There are hundreds of those events happening around about different things the Robinhood scandal, Yelp and the restaurants asking for vaccination proof, and many more. Those ratings were bombed by people who have little in common, might be thousands of miles apart, and other than one or two of these activism moves that act like your average user, not a bot. Wouldn't then the whole network turn into a propaganda machine?
And being totally decentralized, you shouldn't be able to stop it, unless...you centralize it!  ;D



Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 18, 2021, 08:40:17 PM
I was intrigued by the economical part of it, not exactly the design, it's not really a unique concept, I've seen quite a few of them lately.

This will allow users to bypass agencies, newspapers, and other middlemen to gain ad space that's 90% cheaper.

Just how will those ads be 10% cheaper? Let's be realistic here, nobody is earning 10% only of what the advertisers pay, otherwise, this whole industry would have been dead a long time. 50% might be doable for extreme examples but 10%? Not buying  ;D this, especially since you're offering a little too many freebies, not sure if you're not making this to be more attractive then it would be economically viable.

Also this:
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It will not be atypical for a Bitfari economy participant to open up his/her wallet, perform 15 minutes of work and receive enough compensation to pay for a car.

Ads would be cheaper as you said they will cover the same amount of people with 10% of the cost but at the same time watching 15 minutes of ads would cover a car lease? Hmmm!

Next:
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A store owner might close the store and keep operating his/her screen to save money for a future business. As is stated in Bitfari’s code, businesses will receive:
1 million free ad showings in screens of their city/market. This incentive will half every four years.

Again, you're showering participants with freebies, 1 million free views, good! What happens when you have 1000 businesses signing up, you need 1 billion ad views that need to be viewed and you're delivering those for free so who's going to be paying for the above user's car when that much free stuff gets has to view in the first time?

Now, I want to address one thing about auditors

What are you going to do when auditors get together for reasons that are politically or socially motivated, you have seen how people react when boycotting products or other more recent cases harassing businesses. If 51% of the auditors in an area don't like a billboard because they consider it let's say racist although it is not who is going to keep such a mob in check?

There are hundreds of those events happening around about different things the Robinhood scandal, Yelp and the restaurants asking for vaccination proof, and many more. Those ratings were bombed by people who have little in common, might be thousands of miles apart, and other than one or two of these activism moves that act like your average user, not a bot. Wouldn't then the whole network turn into a propaganda machine?
And being totally decentralized, you shouldn't be able to stop it, unless...you centralize it!  ;D




Good questions, let me take them one at a time:

1.  The platform yields savings of 90%, not 10%. A billboard costs about $2500 dollars a month and 10 smart tvs covering the same area will run you about $250 per month. This varies acording to area and foot traffic but you can visualize the concept this way: no maintenance crew to install the billboard, no agency cut, no lightning, no printing costs, etc.

2. The car bounty example is one of the key selling points of the platform. Users install an app and they become customers as well as auditors. When they review an ad they enter a raffle with other customers in other areas who also review the same ad. An incentive is paid to all the customers (think network fees), a bounty is paid to one customer (think block reward), so in essence, the customers become miners and one of them will earn the block reward. Now, where will this money come from and how is it paid? Well, if a business, agency, or individual places an ad that spans say 1000 digital billboards (a small national campaign) the auditing costs for this would probably be around $25,000 while the whole campaign will probably run the advertiser about $250K. 1000 customers  (or more, depending on the area) will review this ad and paid about 10 to 15 dollars in the form of faris, promos, etc. However, a very lucky customer will win the equivalent of a block reward which would probably be about  $15,000. With that, you can not only buy a car but also make the down payment to a house. More importantly, this creates an economic dynamic where customers will visit malls, and shopping centers because there is an incentive to check out new offers. We will set up web pages to let people know of the upcoming bounties, offers, etc. So it's a self-reinforcing cycle where more screens and more ads bring more customers.


3. The million free views are part of an ad faucet that halves every week. Next week the bounty will be 500K free views. The number of views offered depends on the open space created by unaudited screens. Meaning the screens have been activated but not reviewed yet. This creates millions of hours in free advertising every year. Also, don't forget page views on mobile devices, those add up quickly.

4. And to answer your final question, auditors are chosen at random so coordination among them is very hard. The number of chosen auditors is correlated to the foot traffic of the area and the size of the campaign. So, bigger campaigns have a better chance of being shown. Now, if an ad can't get 51% of the approval of randomly chosen individuals then not showing the ad is a net win for the community. We want to make a system where communities vote to see the ads they want to see. Those ads get a better conversion, they get good feedback and they connect with the community. Heated ads, controversial ads, or politically motivated ads will not even see the streets because pre-auditors will filter them. Pre-auditors are people in their homes reviewing ads before they get shown in the streets.

Picture this: an agency books an incendiary ad that gets blocked. The entire budget of the ad was $30,000. About 3,000 will go to auditors, $1500 to pre and 1500 to street auditors. The ad is so incendiary that everyone votes it down. About $1500 dollars are paid to 100 auditors.  The agency gets back $28,500. The agency could have lost the whole budget, enervated the community, and lost a lot of goodwill. Instead, they conducted the cheapest focus group of their history.

5. Additional points: The network will not turn into a propaganda machine because the incentive dynamic described deters propagandists from placing ads. Ads are also regulated by exhibitors. A church can block ads of a certain kind, for example. An immigrant business owner can choose to opt-out of ads about politics, for whatever reason. The platform gives society the opportunity to vent, the change to express themselves for less but also the medium to regulate advertising. For too long we have been seeing the ads the corporations and governments wanted us to see but now we have a say in the matter.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: stompix on June 18, 2021, 11:15:49 PM
1.  The platform yields savings of 90% not 10%. A billboard costs about $2500 dollars a month and 10 smart tv covering the same area will run you about $250 per month.

I really think you're underestimating costs, and at the same time is not really fair comparing a billboard with smart tv, not in an area covered and not in price if you make it the same size, no lighting but electricity for the tv. But, without a bill with detailed costs let's say it's possible.

However a very lucky customer will win the equivalent of a block reward which would probably be about  $15,000.

Well, that makes a lot more sense economically but is not really how it was portrayed in the first place. Luck, not guarantee.

3. The million free views are part of an ad faucet that halves every week. Next week the bounty will be 500K free views. The number of views offered depend on the open space created by unaudited screens. Meaning the screens have been activated but not reviewed yet. This creates millions of hours in free advertising every year.

That would make again more sense than initially but I wonder how are you going to count views on smart tv, you would have to start converting a lot of things from views to seconds of advertising to price per locations, a lot, a lot of work which is going to cost a lot in manpower.

4. Now, if an ad can't get 51% of the approval of randomly chosen individuals then not showing the ad is a net win for the community. We want to make a system were communities vote to see the ads they want to see. Those ads get better conversion, they get good feedback and they connect with the community.

This is the most interesting part as it actually covers one of the works I did in university, the effectiveness, or better say lack of them in repeatedly concentrical targeted campaigns directed at the same group of customers, that's why Google is so good at it, it doesn't show just you what you like but what you are interested in buying, if left alone people will select ads from the products they already like and bought mostly. But that's of no concern to the protocol, it's up to those that make the campaigns.

As for the 51% attack, I still believe is the weak point of this, if people can band together to bring a rating down like it happened with RobinHood (https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/28/22255245/google-deleting-bad-robinhood-reviews-play-store) they will do this over a decentralized app also, don't underestimate the power of trolls and 4chan. The same way they have bought down yelp reviews to a minimum for locations they have never once eaten at the same they could do with those ads or target publishers.

But, rather than the problem itself, for which I will not change my opinion that is real, I'm actually more interested in someone coming with a decentralized defense mechanism that is not simply relying on the good nature of human beings.

For too long we have been seeign the ads the corporations and governments wanted us to see but now we have a say in the matter.

I have a remote and adblock for that  ;D


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 19, 2021, 12:01:44 AM
1.  The platform yields savings of 90% not 10%. A billboard costs about $2500 dollars a month and 10 smart tv covering the same area will run you about $250 per month.

I really think you're underestimating costs, and at the same time is not really fair comparing a billboard with smart tv, not in an area covered and not in price if you make it the same size, no lighting but electricity for the tv. But, without a bill with detailed costs let's say it's possible.

However a very lucky customer will win the equivalent of a block reward which would probably be about  $15,000.

Well, that makes a lot more sense economically but is not really how it was portrayed in the first place. Luck, not guarantee.

3. The million free views are part of an ad faucet that halves every week. Next week the bounty will be 500K free views. The number of views offered depend on the open space created by unaudited screens. Meaning the screens have been activated but not reviewed yet. This creates millions of hours in free advertising every year.

That would make again more sense than initially but I wonder how are you going to count views on smart tv, you would have to start converting a lot of things from views to seconds of advertising to price per locations, a lot, a lot of work which is going to cost a lot in manpower.

4. Now, if an ad can't get 51% of the approval of randomly chosen individuals then not showing the ad is a net win for the community. We want to make a system were communities vote to see the ads they want to see. Those ads get better conversion, they get good feedback and they connect with the community.

This is the most interesting part as it actually covers one of the works I did in university, the effectiveness, or better say lack of them in repeatedly concentrical targeted campaigns directed at the same group of customers, that's why Google is so good at it, it doesn't show just you what you like but what you are interested in buying, if left alone people will select ads from the products they already like and bought mostly. But that's of no concern to the protocol, it's up to those that make the campaigns.

As for the 51% attack, I still believe is the weak point of this, if people can band together to bring a rating down like it happened with RobinHood (https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/28/22255245/google-deleting-bad-robinhood-reviews-play-store) they will do this over a decentralized app also, don't underestimate the power of trolls and 4chan. The same way they have bought down yelp reviews to a minimum for locations they have never once eaten at the same they could do with those ads or target publishers.

But, rather than the problem itself, for which I will not change my opinion that is real, I'm actually more interested in someone coming with a decentralized defense mechanism that is not simply relying on the good nature of human beings.

For too long we have been seeign the ads the corporations and governments wanted us to see but now we have a say in the matter.

I have a remote and adblock for that  ;D
Again:

1.  My analysis listed 10 smart TVs hived together to form a billboard. You are cutting about 10 middlemen: agencies, designers (if you purchase a premade template or go for a classified ad), printing, installation crew, maintenance crew, government fees, etc. Our cost structure is closer to Adwords than to the status quo for billboards.

3. The smart tv has projection software that counts the number of displays. Ads are displayed in 30-second increments. This software is essentially a java-based wallet with an HTML browser redirecting to a new ad every 30 seconds. These metrics are circulated across all the screens of an area. So the system is decentralized on a city-wide basis.

4. Customers have a different type of wallet than projectors. We call this wallet an explorer app. A customer can update his or her "explore list" to include or block ads that are relevant/irrelevant to his/her interests. In this fashion, we bring the contextual relevance of Google ads to offline ads. Since ad space is limited and multiple customers could have different tastes, the projection software would show the ad most relevant to the "group" and for this, it needs to add up interests. This is described in the paper. People who make campaigns can retrofit likes and the manifested interest matrix of the community to correlate them to products people might want to purchase. Please notice advertisers will get this info for free, with the full consent of the customer and with no knowledge of the customer's identity.

Bitfari does not rely on the good nature of human beings to publish and ad as much as Bitcoin relies on the good nature of miners to maintain the network. If a group of auditors decides to collude and block an ad, the agency can deploy the same ad to another location (and at no cost to them since no bounty was paid). The entire city would have to block the ad for it not to be shown.

4.5 You are forgetting to include the automated ad review process performed by machines or "social oracles" as mentioned in the whitepaper. Probably you need to see it in action to better understand it but it is not game-able.

5. But you don't have an AdBlock for real-world ads. Bitfari is that AdBlock.

6. Just to add more details to my answer, last month we created an ad fraud section on the site to go over some common scenarios of attempts at collusion, etc. you can read it here https://bitfari.org/how-bitfari-prevents-ad-fraud/


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: hugeblack on June 19, 2021, 11:27:15 AM
I was wondering about any site? Meaning that some advertising spaces require identity verification and many sites will not allow you to access this number of user data without collecting data about you.
What are the prohibited items? Like gambling ads? and others?
I understand the amount of privacy you will provide to users, but advertising in general depends on the revenue from it more than privacy, so privacy is not a criterion that most of those who want to create advertising campaigns focus on.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: dkbit98 on June 19, 2021, 11:35:40 AM
Companies can nominate any Bitcoin account as a marketing treasury and, when this account changes (either up or down) by a certain threshold, the system can start a campaing in the area of interest. Since users of the platform will be anonymous, there is greater privacy and since advertising costs are lower discounts and promos could be greater.
What do you mean when you say ''Bitcoin account'' and how exactly is everyone anonymous on this platform?
It doesn't sound very decentralized to me with words like account and platfrom.

Ads industry is a huge space with big potential but I really don't understand why do we need one more token for this, and I understand why you would need one more token on some other chain for this...

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10% for the founding team – vested over 3 years
5% for private investors – sold over 3 years
5% for growth campaigns, marketing, hackatons, conferences, etc  – to be deployed over 3 years
5% for company reserves for additional releases. 5% Unlocks at  100K MAU and the rest at 1M MAU
5% for grants to other developers to create apps that connect to the network and provide value
70% will be distributed by the platform with life mining activities: screen installation, auditing, vr billboard registrations, etc.
https://bitfari.org/elements/token/#1453994614943-3a4430d1-c4a8


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 19, 2021, 02:51:47 PM
I was wondering about any site? Meaning that some advertising spaces require identity verification and many sites will not allow you to access this number of user data without collecting data about you.
What are the prohibited items? Like gambling ads? and others?
I understand the amount of privacy you will provide to users, but advertising in general depends on the revenue from it more than privacy, so privacy is not a criterion that most of those who want to create advertising campaigns focus on.

This is an excellent question, thank you. Since Bitfari is more of a protocol than a single app, we expect multiple ad networks to run on top of our blockchain. This means that other developers could use our platform to distribute gambling ads, adult ads, etc. The way this is implemented is via screen setup. Screens pick and choose the type of ads they won't allow creating this automatic filtering of content. We are currently working with a developer that wants to set up a Christian ad network, for example, that means a set of screens running at churches and similar places that only accept ads coming from particular booking sites.

This runs on the agency network, a virtualized separate chain that uses the same smart contracts to get deployed but has an agency or operator code attached to it. In this fashion, casino promoters, adult services promoters, and even private billboard operators can migrate to our platform and run specialized ads on top of them. This layered model is explained on this web page: https://bitfari.org/2021/05/29/on-chain-vs-off-chain-operations/


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 19, 2021, 03:19:15 PM
Companies can nominate any Bitcoin account as a marketing treasury and, when this account changes (either up or down) by a certain threshold, the system can start a campaing in the area of interest. Since users of the platform will be anonymous, there is greater privacy and since advertising costs are lower discounts and promos could be greater.
What do you mean when you say ''Bitcoin account'' and how exactly is everyone anonymous on this platform?
It doesn't sound very decentralized to me with words like account and platfrom.

Ads industry is a huge space with big potential but I really don't understand why do we need one more token for this, and I understand why you would need one more token on some other chain for this...

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10% for the founding team – vested over 3 years
5% for private investors – sold over 3 years
5% for growth campaigns, marketing, hackatons, conferences, etc  – to be deployed over 3 years
5% for company reserves for additional releases. 5% Unlocks at  100K MAU and the rest at 1M MAU
5% for grants to other developers to create apps that connect to the network and provide value
70% will be distributed by the platform with life mining activities: screen installation, auditing, vr billboard registrations, etc.
https://bitfari.org/elements/token/#1453994614943-3a4430d1-c4a8


- We use the Stacks (previosuly called stacks) blockchain for decentralized single sign-on in the apps. Stacks is an L1 blockchain that is connected to Bitcoin via something called PoX or proof of transfer. You sign in with a stacks account and create a pseudonym. To remain anonymous you can create multiple stacks wallets to conduct transactions and remain private. We anticipate people living under regimes of hard censorship to use the platform without any personal identificaction data.

- For a more technical look this is the authentication framework we are using: https://docs.stacks.co/build-apps/guides/authentication (https://docs.stacks.co/build-apps/guides/authentication)

- Very true that the words account and platform are most associated with centralized systems. I need to use them less, forgive me as I come from a centralized web dev background.

- About the token: Bitfari is technically a DAO, we need the token for governance, dividend distribution (this has not been announced yet but will come), bounty and incentive payment and nft registration (screens and agencies are registered as nfts). We needed a token to do all this and it simplifies the amount of transaction costs associated with the solution we build. It also increases the speed of the network and provides a better UX.

- About the token allocation. At this point no tokens have been distributed and these figures only represent allocations, for example if private investors are only interested in 2 or 3% of the tokens then the rest would flow to the community as mining incentives, and so on. As of today, we have not taken any money from investors and haven't deployed any of the tokens. I feel the token allocation is similar to other projects, and since the founding team is composed of four people vester over three years I see no single point of token concentration that could dump the price significantly at any point in time.

Let me add another point. I am highly confortable changing this distribution, taking votes and letting the community guides the token distribution as much as reality allows. So, within reason, we are willing to entertain a conversation with the community to make this as attractive as it can possibly be to future network members - I really mean this.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 19, 2021, 03:41:10 PM
Companies can nominate any Bitcoin account as a marketing treasury and, when this account changes (either up or down) by a certain threshold, the system can start a campaing in the area of interest. Since users of the platform will be anonymous, there is greater privacy and since advertising costs are lower discounts and promos could be greater.
What do you mean when you say ''Bitcoin account'' and how exactly is everyone anonymous on this platform?
It doesn't sound very decentralized to me with words like account and platfrom.

Ads industry is a huge space with big potential but I really don't understand why do we need one more token for this, and I understand why you would need one more token on some other chain for this...

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10% for the founding team – vested over 3 years
5% for private investors – sold over 3 years
5% for growth campaigns, marketing, hackatons, conferences, etc  – to be deployed over 3 years
5% for company reserves for additional releases. 5% Unlocks at  100K MAU and the rest at 1M MAU
5% for grants to other developers to create apps that connect to the network and provide value
70% will be distributed by the platform with life mining activities: screen installation, auditing, vr billboard registrations, etc.
https://bitfari.org/elements/token/#1453994614943-3a4430d1-c4a8


- We use the Stacks (previously called stacks) blockchain for decentralized single sign-on in the apps. Stacks is an L1 blockchain that is connected to Bitcoin via something called PoX or proof of transfer. You sign in with a stacks account and create a pseudonym. To remain anonymous you can create multiple stacks wallets to conduct transactions and remain private. We anticipate people living under regimes of hard censorship to use the platform without any personal identification data.

- For a more technical look this is the authentication framework we are using: https://docs.stacks.co/build-apps/guides/authentication (https://docs.stacks.co/build-apps/guides/authentication)

- It's very true that the words account and platform are most associated with centralized systems. I need to use them less, forgive me as I come from a centralized web dev background.

- About the token: Bitfari is technically a DAO, we need the token for governance, dividend distribution (this has not been announced yet but will come), bounty and incentive payment, and NFT registration (screens and agencies are registered as NFTs). We needed a token to do all this and it simplifies the number of transaction costs associated with the solution we build. It also increases the speed of the network and provides a better UX.

- About the token allocation. At this point, no tokens have been distributed and these figures only represent allocations, for example, if private investors are only interested in 2 or 3% of the tokens then the rest would flow to the community as mining incentives, and so on. As of today, we have not taken any money from investors and haven't deployed any of the tokens. I feel the token allocation is similar to other projects, and since the founding team is composed of four people vested over three years I see no single point of token concentration that could dump the price significantly at any point in time.

Let me add another point. I am highly comfortable changing this distribution, taking votes, and letting the community guides the token distribution as much as reality allows. So, within reason, we are willing to entertain a conversation with the community to make this as attractive as it can possibly be to future network members - I really mean this.


Finally about the advertising industry. Change is coming, this industry is tainted with ad-click fraud, intermediaries, and stagnation. We will see many solutions flourish and propose new models. We need to push for privacy, better context, and less intrusion. DAOs can help by keeping all the code open source and running periodic elections to guide projects on the right track.

In particular, our solution offers programmable ads that get posted to the Bitcoin blockchain thru Stacks (which is like a million times better than Ethereum but don't get me started on that). If millions of ads get posted on Bitfari, technically, we would become the largest source of smart contracts residing at the BTC blockchain - this is very exciting to me. BAT is also building good things in this space. However, digital billboards are a great space because, by improving them, society can not only save money but also gain freedom of expression by implementing this sort of solution.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: buwaytress on June 20, 2021, 08:33:29 AM
Hi OP, also stopping by out of curiosity and I've actually seen several models implemented in my home country as long as 10-15 years ago, mainly because of cost issue (can't afford google or don't know how to get value for money) but also they used in networks (food businesses advertising also in other food businesses, but not to compete, to complement... e.g. a pizza place showing ads for everything else other than pizza).

The problem I always found was you can't really estimate the benefit. 90% cheaper ads could mean 90% less relevant views? And you'd only be selling views, not clickthrus, very hard to track otherwise, or I suppose, ad time, which is the billboard model. You've probably also underestimated costs... $250 a month for 10 smart TVs running 24 hours doesn't sound right but also doesn't sound effective -- in my moderately sized city, you get a week's 24/7 roving banner on a tram = $250 a week. I feel like I'd rather pay for that exposure.

P.S. Somewhat reminiscent of all those pay2surf companies from late 90s to even 5/6 years ago, just running those ad bars and getting people to view them or open them up on screens in public places -- that model crashed after a while, no?

P. P.S. Brave ads, let me tell you, they're probably the best cost per view and acquisition and they still only pay a fraction to the user.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: dkbit98 on June 20, 2021, 02:43:41 PM
We anticipate people living under regimes of hard censorship to use the platform without any personal identificaction data.
What happens in case this regimes or governments shut down your website or terminate your domain? How can people access they funds?
Censorship is increasing every day even is so called ''western democratic'' world that is not really so democratic if you are not blindly following some mainstream bigtech narrative.

Let me add another point. I am highly confortable changing this distribution, taking votes and letting the community guides the token distribution as much as reality allows. So, within reason, we are willing to entertain a conversation with the community to make this as attractive as it can possibly be to future network members - I really mean this.
According to your website, foundation team will hold 10% and I don't even know how much is total supply, but I don't understand how will you distribute them if there is no premine?
Maybe ten percent isn't big amount, but you will also have 20% in total for investors, campaigns, reserves and grants for developers.
It would be good f you can clarify this please.



Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 20, 2021, 03:42:36 PM
Hi OP, also stopping by out of curiosity and I've actually seen several models implemented in my home country as long as 10-15 years ago, mainly because of cost issue (can't afford google or don't know how to get value for money) but also they used in networks (food businesses advertising also in other food businesses, but not to compete, to complement... e.g. a pizza place showing ads for everything else other than pizza).

The problem I always found was you can't really estimate the benefit. 90% cheaper ads could mean 90% less relevant views? And you'd only be selling views, not clickthrus, very hard to track otherwise, or I suppose, ad time, which is the billboard model. You've probably also underestimated costs... $250 a month for 10 smart TVs running 24 hours doesn't sound right but also doesn't sound effective -- in my moderately sized city, you get a week's 24/7 roving banner on a tram = $250 a week. I feel like I'd rather pay for that exposure.

P.S. Somewhat reminiscent of all those pay2surf companies from late 90s to even 5/6 years ago, just running those ad bars and getting people to view them or open them up on screens in public places -- that model crashed after a while, no?

P. P.S. Brave ads, let me tell you, they're probably the best cost per view and acquisition and they still only pay a fraction to the user.

We will offer the highest quality ads on the market because of blockchain technology: every screen will have a trail of foot traffic and a trail of matches (contextual matches) registered on-chain. This has never been done before and allows marketers to identify the best spots for their ads. Ads are contextualized, meaning you can book a thousand ads for the contextual show and only be billed 10 cents when a match shows. Since ads are also programable we can customize ads for pseudonyms, time of day, sex, age, etc, provided the user chose to disclose that info. The more info the user chooses to disclose the more savings for them (we call this a disclosure matrix, essentially a list of keywords).

Think of it this way, you want into a store and you have a list of 100 keywords in your pocket, the system will automatically match those keywords with ads and show you the most relevant ones. Therefore the effectiveness of the system, provided all that ads that can be booked are, will be much closer to Google ads than to a typical static ad.

The current problem with advertising is wanting to show ads to everyone. Imagine you could deploy your budget where you only show ads to matches. That not only increases the effectiveness of our ad but also the reach of your budget.



Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 20, 2021, 03:59:00 PM
We anticipate people living under regimes of hard censorship to use the platform without any personal identificaction data.
What happens in case this regimes or governments shut down your website or terminate your domain? How can people access they funds?
Censorship is increasing every day even is so called ''western democratic'' world that is not really so democratic if you are not blindly following some mainstream bigtech narrative.

Let me add another point. I am highly confortable changing this distribution, taking votes and letting the community guides the token distribution as much as reality allows. So, within reason, we are willing to entertain a conversation with the community to make this as attractive as it can possibly be to future network members - I really mean this.
According to your website, foundation team will hold 10% and I don't even know how much is total supply, but I don't understand how will you distribute them if there is no premine?
Maybe ten percent isn't big amount, but you will also have 20% in total for investors, campaigns, reserves and grants for developers.
It would be good f you can clarify this please.

Thank you for your questions. The total supply of tokens is 100 million. 10% distributed over 3 years for the fouding team and 5% for investors if we find any.

The tokens will be generated and allocated when users "mine them". There is also a halving component. Tokens are mined when a screen joins the network, when a customer installs a wallet and fills a disclosure matrix (list of keywords he or she is interested in), or when someone just purchases the token. Meaning that token distribution will be very scarse and proportional to network adoption, kind of similar to bitcoin.

People will hold their tokens on Stacks wallet: https://bitfari.org/wallets/ And none of the approved wallets are censorable since they run on public/global blockchains. We have registered uncensorable domains (see https://btc.us) to offer publicity to people in "hard" areas. We have registered marketing.btc, publicity.btc, classifieds.btc, ads.btc and several more.

Censorship is a big, big issue. With our platform you have a chance to first: show the ad to preauditors for free or cheap before being blocked, and you also have the chance to try all the screens in a city for a fixed price to find out whether any business owner will allow your ad.

Let's say you live in Iran and want to runs somewhat revolutionary ads for women's rights - we believe that we have created the best platform for this. After everyone in the city blocks your ads, you install your own screens with some friends and start showing your ads using the platform. These ads can run "undercover" and only be shown when people in the vecinity walk buy having the keywords of your movement in their smartphones. Meaning that when police or other authorities show up, the won't the see ads. You can set up one smart TV and divide the cost among 10 friends for example and show these 10 ads while financing the TV purchase with other ads. When your TV is seized, you use your private and public key to configure another screen with the same ads in a different location and keep the revolution going. I worked in Egypt some decades ago running these types of campaings and trust me, it is hard. However, this system is a new tool that will be appreciated by activists.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: dkbit98 on June 20, 2021, 04:13:53 PM
We have registered uncensorable domains (see https://btc.us) to offer publicity to people in "hard" areas. We have registered marketing.btc, publicity.btc, classifieds.btc, ads.btc and several more.
There is no such thing as uncensorable domains in todays world, except if they are using some alternative internet and some decentralized solution.
Governments can always block access to those domains, and they can close them if they want, not to mention that your platform have single point of failure if I can access it only from website, and same thing can be said for those tokens.
Bitcoin have open source software wallets that can't be shutdown like that, and any solution that want's to avoid censorship should have something similar.

Let's say you live in Iran and want to runs somewhat revolutionary ads for women's rights - we believe that we have created the best platform for this.
We don't have to go to Iran, let's say I live in United States, Canada or UK and I want to publish what some medical experts and Nobel prize winners are really saying about new vaccines and their harmful effects, and they are banned to speak on twitter, facebook, youtube and anywhere else on main stream media.
If I want to publish my ads about that, do you think your platform will allow that or not?



Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 20, 2021, 04:43:49 PM
We have registered uncensorable domains (see https://btc.us) to offer publicity to people in "hard" areas. We have registered marketing.btc, publicity.btc, classifieds.btc, ads.btc and several more.
There is no such thing as uncensorable domains in todays world, except if they are using some alternative internet and some decentralized solution.
Governments can always block access to those domains, and they can close them if they want, not to mention that your platform have single point of failure if I can access it only from website, and same thing can be said for those tokens.
Bitcoin have open source software wallets that can't be shutdown like that, and any solution that want's to avoid censorship should have something similar.

Let's say you live in Iran and want to runs somewhat revolutionary ads for women's rights - we believe that we have created the best platform for this.
We don't have to go to Iran, let's say I live in United States, Canada or UK and I want to publish what some medical experts and Nobel prize winners are really saying about new vaccines and their harmful effects, and they are banned to speak on twitter, facebook, youtube and anywhere else on main stream media.
If I want to publish my ads about that, do you think your platform will allow that or not?


- These domain names are decentralized and work on top of Bitcoin. So yes, its sort of an alternative DNS + the decentralization of Bitcoin.

- We won't block any ads. Not even, activism, porn, gambling, etc. Bitfari is peer to peer. However, organizing ads is what we do: we have different rails of ads: community ads, park ads, church ads, city ads, gym ads, etc. There will be rails for you to show your ad. There is something called the auditing process that is conducted by two kinds of people and machines (what we call social oracles).

Programmatically we check for foul language, nonsensical words, etc to discard those ads from the rails that choose to discard them. Humanly we have two round of auditing: preauditing, on smart TVs and computers at home, and on-site auditing. Preauditing is an inexpensive focus group that flags the ads according to several keywords (some of these keywords can help us place the ad for better performance, some would indicate the ad is not fit for a particular rail). When the ad is pre-audited the screen operator sees a list of ads with all the keywords and he/she chooses to accept the ad depending on price content, etc. Meaning if you try different screens (or just choose city wide posting and let us try to place the ad), you will get distribution. Finallly, onsite auditors are customers who confirm that the screen actually exists, is projecting the ad, and sends you a couple of pictures for verification. But this is something you can also see on Google Earth.

Let me reiterate: we want to publish "almost any ad", I think we go further than any network on the business. However, we want to place your ad, audit it, assign it to the right places, give you a good price and let screen operators make a decision on whether to take it. If a screen operator decides not to take your ad, you get your money back and free auditing the next time, because we want you to place the ad. You can then, either change the copy, raise the price, target a different area, etc. But, in many ways, the main raison d'etre of our platform is giving a voice to people you din't have one before. either by lowering prices, increasing reach, placing your ads in the right network, or telling you exactly what people in the distribution location find offensive about the ad so you can adjust it and gain distribution. If you want to read more about the rails model go here: https://bitfari.org/2021/06/19/community-agency-ads/ and here https://bitfari.org/2021/06/19/what-is-a-social-oracle/ and point #3 of the whitepaper here: https://bitfari.org/whitepaper/



Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: buwaytress on June 21, 2021, 09:07:30 AM
The current problem with advertising is wanting to show ads to everyone. Imagine you could deploy your budget were you only show ads to matches. That not only increases the effectiveness of our ad but also the reach of your budget.

Thanks for the response. Just a final comment on ads budgeting.

Sure, but that extra cost for targeting is what puts potentials off, and can be considered more intrusive (then you also only get people who want to be targeted which brings out the "bounty" mentality, like on Brave, almost narrowing away people who will actually spend money at your product/service. While the "display to all" gets you... well... awareness, which is something to pay for anyway, in most advertising cases.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 21, 2021, 02:48:34 PM
The current problem with advertising is wanting to show ads to everyone. Imagine you could deploy your budget where you only show ads to matches. That not only increases the effectiveness of our ad but also the reach of your budget.

Thanks for the response. Just a final comment on ads budgeting.

Sure, but that extra cost for targeting is what puts potentials off, and can be considered more intrusive (then you also only get people who want to be targeted which brings out the "bounty" mentality, like on Brave, almost narrowing away people who will actually spend money at your product/service. While the "display to all" gets you... well... awareness, which is something to pay for anyway, in most advertising cases.

Excellent comment. Our bet here is the redefinition of advertising's social contract. While it is weird to be retargeted and shown ads for new cars at CNN right after you were looking for baby strollers on Youtube we hope to bring the weirdness out of contextual ads.

See, if you have a shopping list in your wallet (this is part of what we call the disclosure matrix), where you specify that you are out to buy a stroller, shoes, and Thai food, Bitfari can show those matching ads only when you are in the vicinity of businesses with matching products offering a discount or promo that meets your preferred thresholds (say 10% for example).

Rewiring this social contract to clear up the expectations of the parties is what takes the weird factor out, because you are expecting, and even looking out for these ads. You can disable them in your phone, or only see them on your phone for added privacy. Anyhow, the ads are shown with a pseudonym we prepared called AlterEgo, from the whitepaper:

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Alter Ego Is A Private Login Where The Account Identifier, A Public Key Assigned To A Publisher, Maps To A Set Containing A Pseudonym, An Avatar, A Color, A Hashed Password And A Place Of Origin. For Example:

AlterEgo1 = {PublicKey, ‘Batman’, ‘Avatar15’, ‘Red’, ‘Eeb7048c69b088739908f5f5144cd1f5’, ‘New York’ }

When Displaying This User’s Identity In The Ad Space We Can Expect To See Something Along The Lines Of:

BoyGenius Of New York We Have a 30% OFF Coupon For You! – And So On. Instead Of A Photo, The User Gets To Choose An Avatar From A Library. A Color Is Also Chosen To Map The Ad Space That Is Targeting The Use To His/Her Smartphone.

AlterEgo makes it easier to select better-looking pseudonyms that look great on an ad. Now, let's look at this scenario at scale. Say that 100 people walking thru a shopping mall have the app installed and running.

When looking at things at scale we have to realize that most of the ads shown will be matching ads, not directly in front of the customer (our solution doesn't use NFC but reference GPS targeting). In this scenario, the screens will not only calculate which ads to match to a particular customer, but which ads to match to a particular group of customers. And here is where it shows its true power. As soon as a couple of customers walk by with the app, it will be easy to identify whether they are a group of tourists, vegan eaters, or poetry lovers.

The app can then show ads for the group and enjoy a heightened matching probability because now it has information on segments of the crowds and not the individual per se. This is what all the literature in the field has been striving to find: how can we identify masses of people with certain commonalities and advertise to those in order to maximize results.

Finally just wanted to add that matching doesn't come at an extra cost. It only a single cost billed on matching/display. To give you an idea matching could cost you between 1 and 5 cents (depending on foot traffic) and ad displays could run you about a dollar a day for community ads and about $2 a day for agency ads if you show them on a 70 inch smart TV.




Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: dkbit98 on June 21, 2021, 02:54:43 PM
These domain names are decentralized and work on top of Bitcoin. So yes, its sort of an alternative DNS + the decentralization of Bitcoin.
Ok that is interesting.
How and where can people purchase this domains and see more information about them?

There is something called the auditing process that is conducted by two kinds of people and machines (what we call social oracles).
This is where I see potential problem, because youtube and google is also using machines and their algorithms to censor everything they don't like, and machines are programed by humans.
People on the other hand can be influenced with money and I don't know who will audit the auditers.

If a screen operator decides not to take your ad, you get your money back and free auditing the next time, because we want you to place the ad. You can then, either change the copy, raise the price, target a different area, etc.
Who exactly are screen operators, your business partners maybe? And how easy can someone become screen operator?


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 21, 2021, 04:07:14 PM
These domain names are decentralized and work on top of Bitcoin. So yes, its sort of an alternative DNS + the decentralization of Bitcoin.
Ok that is interesting.
How and where can people purchase this domains and see more information about them?

There is something called the auditing process that is conducted by two kinds of people and machines (what we call social oracles).
This is where I see potential problem, because youtube and google is also using machines and their algorithms to censor everything they don't like, and machines are programed by humans.
People on the other hand can be influenced with money and I don't know who will audit the auditers.

If a screen operator decides not to take your ad, you get your money back and free auditing the next time, because we want you to place the ad. You can then, either change the copy, raise the price, target a different area, etc.
Who exactly are screen operators, your business partners maybe? And how easy can someone become screen operator?


- You can go to btc.us to purchase the decentralized domains and get more info.

- Social oracles are blockchain smartcontracts + client functions primarily built to prevent spam not to censor. They block DOS attacks (ultra fast posting), ads that do not contaictionary words, bad words, and that sort of thing. Auditors cannot censor an ad, they only evaluated. Screen operators scan block an ad, but they have an incentive to show it. Auditors are rewarded by the publishers, our platform is the first to make auditing transparent. The dynamic between auditors, publishers and screen operators occurs within the social oracles programmatic bounds, ensuring a fair treatment for all. Auditors and social oracles are there to prevent fraud: report malfunctioning screens, non-existent screens, covered screens, etc. Social oracles are mainly programs to block spammy ads.

Who audits the auditors? The publisher and others. When you deploy an ad to multiple locations, auditors create a body of data that spans the city. This data sort of evens out as you add auditors (central limit theorem and similar theory applies here). Meaning, the more auditors you have, the better the reporting gets.  Again, ads are not blocked based on auditing, they are only evaluated.

- We are building the platform for 100M screen operators. Anyone can be a screen operator. It's as easy as installing an app or going to a website in your Smart TV. You can show ads indoors, in your storefront, at your church, the gym, your office, etc. The ads could be shown as stand alone programming or be intertwined with apps like message boards, dashboards, online content, etc. The the money coming from ads shown is distributed to screen operators, app developers, auditors (if applicable) and son on. So a new economy is created for smart screens. Before you had many operators with independent platforms, now we plan to consolidate everything on a single platform, pay via crypto and renew the privacy social contract between marketers and consumers.

Anyone wanting to operate a screen can be up and running in 10 minutes. There is no contract to sign, no special equipment required, and you can set everything up online. We launch on Testnet August 22nd. To get ready install a Stacks wallet (https://bitfari.org/wallets/) and read our getting started guide (https://bitfari.org/get-started/). If you join the waitlist I will personally call you to confirm everything went well and provide free assistance if necessary.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: dkbit98 on June 21, 2021, 04:19:27 PM
You can go to btc.us to purchase the decentralized domains and get more info.
This looks like a great deal to purchase domain for $5 valid for five years, if regular websites can also work with that domain.

Thank you for detailed explanation about auditors and screen operators, last question I would ask if this service is available in all countries or there are some restriction?


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 21, 2021, 08:16:16 PM
You can go to btc.us to purchase the decentralized domains and get more info.
This looks like a great deal to purchase domain for $5 valid for five years, if regular websites can also work with that domain.

Thank you for detailed explanation about auditors and screen operators, last question I would ask if this service is available in all countries or there are some restrictions?

Bitfari will be available globally from day 1. Docs, websites, and apps will be available in English, Spanish and French before Jan 2022. Testnet launch is Aug 22. There are no restrictions depending on the location to use the platform, however, some legal disclaimers will be different according to the region in which you deploy the screens. Two quick examples:

- You install Bitfari on your personal laptop to see contextual ads of your community and pre-audit ads to make extra money - no limitations anywhere. You get paid in faris from day one. If you happen to see an ad that was paid (not a free ad and not a Bitfari Foundation ad, you also get paid for that ad in BTC, STX, or DAI, your choice).

- You install a Bitfari connected dashboard app as a favorite link in your Smart TV in your home - no limitations anywhere. You get paid in faris from day one. The developer of the dashboard app also gets paid a cut. If you happen to see an ad that was paid (not a free ad and not a Bitfari Foundation ad, you also get paid for that ad in BTC, STX, or DAI, your choice).

- You install a storefront screen anywhere in Canada, for example. You will see a legal disclaimer that reads along the lines of: "In Canada, all advertisements should be displayed in English and French", therefore, as a screen operator you should only choose ads that meet this condition in Canada, Ads will come pre audited and flag to help you with this, but it is ultimately the responsibility of the screen operator to abide by the law of his/her jurisdiction. We understand that people want to make BTC and that mining with your screen will be easier than with a server farm of Asics but we do not advise breaking the law anywhere. Each screen is mapped to an area (lat, long plus country), in this fashion, we identify applicable laws and notify you beforehand. We also select local auditors whenever available. BTW, on average storefront screens are expected to earn about 100x more than private screens.

-  Let's assume you live under a government that is banning all sorts of outdoor advertisements. This happened in Brazil in 2006: https://newdream.org/blog/sao-paolo-ad-ban. Now, Bitfari is used for more than advertising. You can distribute messages or art, you can display store signage, etc.

In this case, you will still be able to use the platform in Brazil but we would show a legal disclaimer with a link to the law and a brief description. In this case, several agencies (the term we use for ad distribution channels) might disable ads in Brazil, but the blockchain will always be opened to all due to the nature of the service (it can be used for messaging and signage as well as advertisements).

- There are other markets with complicated rules (see this controversial article https://www.wired.com/story/google-ads-sanctioned-countries-iran/). Again, we show the appropriate legal disclaimers, maybe some advertisers choose to only show contextual ads on mobile phones due to the nature of the market, maybe screen operators need an additional feature that will allow them to make money and comply with regulations. In this case, we ship an updated screen projection app (essentially the wallet app used by screen operators), and then the market can keep growing.

Hope that helps clear things up.






Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 24, 2021, 04:08:48 PM
New video out. This one addresses the civic networking capabilities of Bitfari.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_atO1a0szA


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: Ucy on June 24, 2021, 07:40:45 PM
 Intersting
I wonder how feasible this is considerig other things it may  likely  try to bypass to serve  any kind  of ads without restrictions.Does it bypass fair rules used to regulate ad companies?  And Can users who abuse their Anonimity with the service be held accountable? How easily can they be held accountable? I wonder how safe it will be if you can bypass lots of things without accountability


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: NotATether on June 24, 2021, 08:08:32 PM
Are there any minimum traffic or Alexa rank requirements for publishers to sign up like other ad networks have? As a publisher myself with an Alexa ranking of around #2,000,000, will I be able to register to this network?


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 24, 2021, 09:56:36 PM
Intersting
I wonder how feasible this is considerig other things it may  likely  try to bypass to serve  any kind  of ads without restrictions.Does it bypass fair rules used to regulate ad companies?  And Can users who abuse their Anonimity with the service be held accountable? How easily can they be held accountable? I wonder how safe it will be if you can bypass lots of things without accountability

Excellent questions. Let me take them one at a time.

1. The product is not built to bypass the law. All the screens should comply with local regulations. Let me give you a key example: we have about 10K areas in the software, every area is roughly mapped to a city and a country. In this fashion, we know which laws apply, depending on the jurisdiction different disclaimers are shown in other to ensure compliance (let screen operators know which ads can or can't be shown in their jurisdictions). Auditors and pre-auditors are local customers tasked with screen/ad review under the network's guidance. Meaning they complete basic training letting them know which ads are appropriate, etc. Beyond that, we have social oracles (bots) that run on and off-chain to prevent spam, foul languages, superlatives (for China), name targeting (to avoid defamation), etc. We will launch with about 50 social oracles but I can picture it growing to nearly a thousand.

Given this very strict review process, there really is no room for fraud, there are many economic incentives for actors to complete a fair review and only show appropriate ads. We also devoted an entire section of our website to ad fraud prevention (https://bitfari.org/how-bitfari-prevents-ad-fraud/). But please remember this key fact: screen operators can delist ads and is in their best interest to do so because advertising laws are very actively enforced.


2.  Users are not anonymous, they are pseudonymous. The is no way in which they can abuse their pseudonymity. All ads have to undergo auditing unless the screens in which they will be projected are not public (for example private screens in offices and homes). Next, placing an ad costs money, about $25 a month in the US for example, so spammers are out of luck. Finally, auditing charges are non-refundable so, if you engage in content pollution, you might end up broke pretty soon. The bottom line is we have no tolerance for spam, hate language, foul language, or illegal ads.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 24, 2021, 10:08:24 PM
Are there any minimum traffic or Alexa rank requirements for publishers to sign up like other ad networks have? As a publisher myself with an Alexa ranking of around #2,000,000, will I be able to register to this network?

Love this question. We have absolutely no traffic requirements whatsoever. Anyone can show ads with our platform, either on a website, physical screen, digital billboard or AR virtual billboard (support for these will be announced soon). But how can we do this:

1. The fari token is divisible up to 18 decimal places, so for example,  we can pay you 0.000000000000000001 faris for a one month period. That's a level of divisibility that only crypto can give publishers.

2. We expect to have advertisers for which traffic of 10 people per month will be valuable. These advertisers will be regular people from local communities looking to fill churches seats, increase attendance to public hearings, and boost engagement for their local movements. We also anticipate a crowd of hobbyists advertisers who want to enrich their social media presence and appreciate global traffic even at a small scale.

3. Fraud is not possible in Bitfari, I repeat, it's not possible. We have already discussed this for digital billboards (https://bitfari.org/marketer-fraud/), in the case of websites fraud is easily avoidable: just charge for clicks. I know it sounds simple, but that is the solution we will present later. Content publishers join our platform, users pay a fee to visit sites that have joined our platform, and the money from clicks is distributed proportionally to receiving sites. Please note that while this solution is coming we have not announced it yet in a broad fashion and is not part of our August 22nd release. However, it is coming and we'll be glad to have you as a publisher then!


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: Ucy on June 25, 2021, 09:50:47 AM
Intersting
I wonder how feasible this is considerig other things it may  likely  try to bypass to serve  any kind  of ads without restrictions.Does it bypass fair rules used to regulate ad companies?  And Can users who abuse their Anonimity with the service be held accountable? How easily can they be held accountable? I wonder how safe it will be if you can bypass lots of things without accountability

1. The product is not built to bypass the law. All the screens should comply with local regulations. Let me give you a key example: we have about 10K areas in the software, every area is roughtly mapped to a city and a country. In this fashion we now which laws apply, depending on the jurisdiction different disclaimers are show in other to ensure compliance (let screen operators know which ads can or can't be shown in their jurisdictions). Auditors and pre-auditors are local customers tasked with screen/ad review under the network's guidance. Meaning they complete basic training letting them know which ads are appropiate, etc. Beyond that we have social oracles (bots) than run on and off chain to prevent spam, foul languages, superlatives (for China), name targeting (to avoid diffamation), etc. We will launch with about 50 social oracles but I can picture it growing to nearly a thousand.



Well, I think it's better to simply stick to Moral Ads rather than Legal Ads if you don't want yo be overwhelmed by the complexity of national laws or even get yourself in trouble in the future.
Anyone playing on global level needs to strongly hold on to morality rather than legality especially when certain laws are unclear or doesn't sound right..unless they have the resources to defend themselves in complicated circumstances.
And it's important to use those who actually understand what moral or immoral is and know how to use it properly to navigate through the complexities of national laws without really committing crime and getting themselves in trouble


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: dkbit98 on June 25, 2021, 11:18:28 AM
Maybe you should add some demo video so people can see how your ad network platform would work in real life.

Fraud is not possible in Bitfari, I repeat, it's not possible.
I saw that it is possible for people to earn Bitcoin by reviewing Bitfari ads, so my question is can anyone participate in this and how are you going to fight with fake reviews and abusing with multiple accounts?
In theory someone could create hundreds of accounts and write multiple ads feedback to earn more Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 25, 2021, 03:01:28 PM
Intersting
I wonder how feasible this is considerig other things it may  likely  try to bypass to serve  any kind  of ads without restrictions.Does it bypass fair rules used to regulate ad companies?  And Can users who abuse their Anonimity with the service be held accountable? How easily can they be held accountable? I wonder how safe it will be if you can bypass lots of things without accountability

1. The product is not built to bypass the law. All the screens should comply with local regulations. Let me give you a key example: we have about 10K areas in the software, every area is roughtly mapped to a city and a country. In this fashion we now which laws apply, depending on the jurisdiction different disclaimers are show in other to ensure compliance (let screen operators know which ads can or can't be shown in their jurisdictions). Auditors and pre-auditors are local customers tasked with screen/ad review under the network's guidance. Meaning they complete basic training letting them know which ads are appropiate, etc. Beyond that we have social oracles (bots) than run on and off chain to prevent spam, foul languages, superlatives (for China), name targeting (to avoid diffamation), etc. We will launch with about 50 social oracles but I can picture it growing to nearly a thousand.



Well, I think it's better to simply stick to Moral Ads rather than Legal Ads if you don't want yo be overwhelmed by the complexity of national laws or even get yourself in trouble in the future.
Anyone playing on global level needs to strongly hold on to morality rather than legality especially when certain laws are unclear or doesn't sound right..unless they have the resources to defend themselves in complicated circumstances.
And it's important to use those who actually understand what moral or immoral is and know how to use it properly to navigate through the complexities of national laws without really committing crime and getting themselves in trouble

This is good advice. Thank you. Yes, advertising is a minefield, child protection laws, anti-spam laws, defamation, libel, it's quite complicated and variable across jurisdictions so we have to be careful and conservative as we scale.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 25, 2021, 03:19:58 PM
Maybe you should add some demo video so people can see how your ad network platform would work in real life.

Fraud is not possible in Bitfari, I repeat, it's not possible.
I saw that it is possible for people to earn Bitcoin by reviewing Bitfari ads, so my question is can anyone participate in this and how are you going to fight with fake reviews and abusing with multiple accounts?
In theory, someone could create hundreds of accounts and write multiple ads feedback to earn more Bitcoin.


Thank you for wanting to join the platform. Auditors review ads at random from their homes and in the streets (where ads are shown). The incentive is for auditors to be truthful as they only enter bounties when they belong with 51% or more of the rest of the auditors selecting a given choice. Meaning as long as there are more honest people than not for a particular auditing task, bad actors will be automatically punished. Most auditing is done in the streets, so there is no room for machine impersonation there. Also, auditors are chosen at random for ads in their area. Let me entertain for a second the idea of an automatic program for auditing done at home:

Let's suppose you create a Selenium program to automate account creation, joining the platform, and auditing ads at random. Your program will fail social oracle auditing, which are programs that review publisher, operator, and auditor behaviors (https://bitfari.org/2021/06/19/what-is-a-social-oracle/ (https://bitfari.org/2021/06/19/what-is-a-social-oracle/)), case in point you might fail prompts requiring to verify you're human. Your karma will stay at zero and you will have to wait weeks for a second task and eventually your karma goes negative and your account is blocked from auditing tasks. You can read our section on fraud prevention here: https://bitfari.org/how-bitfari-prevents-ad-fraud/ (https://bitfari.org/how-bitfari-prevents-ad-fraud/).


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 25, 2021, 08:21:27 PM
Maybe you should add some demo video so people can see how your ad network platform would work in real life.

Fraud is not possible in Bitfari, I repeat, it's not possible.
I saw that it is possible for people to earn Bitcoin by reviewing Bitfari ads, so my question is can anyone participate in this and how are you going to fight with fake reviews and abusing with multiple accounts?
In theory someone could create hundreds of accounts and write multiple ads feedback to earn more Bitcoin.


Forgot to send you the videos. I took a handful of videos this week, but we are still waiting on something more professional. Here are some random shots I took of the ad composer + web interface for advertisers and customers:

Placing an ad on a message board: https://twitter.com/jordhy/status/1407360001681854467
Social Dashboard + Gamification: https://twitter.com/jordhy/status/1407359611653574657
Adding todos like shopping lists etc: https://twitter.com/jordhy/status/1407359409538351108

You can also see screenshots of the mobile app here: https://bitfari.org/the-bitfari-explorer-app/

As you can see pretty easy to use. We batch client actions and then submit them to the blockchain as a whole when the action requires ad publishing or similar events. In this fashion, the experience is pretty smooth and uninterrupted by blockchain transactions except when absolutely needed.

The one video that is completed is the anticipation video for the beta launch, but that one is just a promo with no app screenshots. You can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_atO1a0szA&t=14s

I'm finishing a web page with the release roadmap to share today. Next week I'll prepare screenshots, professional videos, and maybe a full walkthrough (if the bugs let me!!).


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 26, 2021, 03:57:13 AM
We have just published the Roadmap for 2021 and 2022! https://bitfari.org/bitfari-roadmap/


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: dnpotter on June 26, 2021, 12:07:04 PM
Maybe you should add some demo video so people can see how your ad network platform would work in real life.

I second that.  I'm struggling to visualise how it would work from a user experience perspective.

You talk about billboards - how much infrastructure is needed to make this work?

Great website, by the way.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 28, 2021, 05:23:48 PM
Maybe you should add some demo video so people can see how your ad network platform would work in real life.

I second that.  I'm struggling to visualize how it would work from a user experience perspective.

You talk about billboards - how much infrastructure is needed to make this work?

Great website, by the way.


The first Bitfari demo videos are here! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPvmtrX1ZXE&list=PLdhvBFmB1JmhUp6CIq0KaS6U8_8dOGFrP (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPvmtrX1ZXE&list=PLdhvBFmB1JmhUp6CIq0KaS6U8_8dOGFrP)


Here are the first demo videos explaining how to use Bitfari. These videos are taken from the perspective of an advertiser that interfaces with Bitfari screens at home, in the office, and in city storefronts. In terms of user experience, you log in with your Stacks wallet, make changes to a node/react client we call the "Community Connector" and then commit the changes to the blockchain. Every time you commit an ad or screen to the blockchain, auditors and social oracles (computer programs) audit for spam, DOS attacks and hate speech, etc. making Bitfari simple and safe to use.

Bitfari is a network of public and private screens. It is highly usable with one or one million screens. The smart screens are information centers, containing ads, dashboards, message boards, calendars, signage, web pages, and so on. You can install Bitfari on a personal laptop, smart TV home, etc, and choose whether you want to receive ads or not.

The network is built to be self bootstrapping, in terms of halving incentives and foundation ads which will pay in faris from day 1. Since ads are displayed using HTML and a web browser, even $100 screens can join the network and start making money. Please keep in mind that each screen is paid according to size, placement, and foot traffic.

In the second release, we will ship an app that will allow digital billboard operators to join our network and show Bitfari ads along with theirs.
  
With regard to the consumer-facing side of things, we are building smartphone ads where they can list their preferences and create an interest/shopping list allowing them to explore their cities more intelligently. Here is a walkthrough of that app: https://bitfari.org/the-bitfari-explorer-app/ (https://bitfari.org/the-bitfari-explorer-app/)

We are preparing to let everyone in to check the apps on Testnet by late August. But although most things looked finished, please keep in mind that we are still coding very very hard!!


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: NotATether on June 28, 2021, 05:49:03 PM
Here are the first demo videos explaining how to use Bitfari. These videos are taken from the perspective of an advertiser that interfaces with Bitfari screens at home, in the office, and in city storefronts. In terms of user experience, you log in with your Stacks wallet, make changes to a node/react client we call the "Community Connector" and then commit the changes to the blockchain. Every time you commit an ad or screen to the blockchain, auditors and social oracles (computer programs) audit for spam, DOS attacks and hate speech, etc. making Bitfari simple and safe to use.

Can you make another demo video but from the publisher perspective? After all, you're not going to get any advertisers if the number of publishers on your platform is too low, and vice versa. But admittingly before you try to attract publishers you need to get enough advertisers to actually keep publishers there.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on June 28, 2021, 07:20:06 PM
Here are the first demo videos explaining how to use Bitfari. These videos are taken from the perspective of an advertiser that interfaces with Bitfari screens at home, in the office, and in city storefronts. In terms of user experience, you log in with your Stacks wallet, make changes to a node/react client we call the "Community Connector" and then commit the changes to the blockchain. Every time you commit an ad or screen to the blockchain, auditors and social oracles (computer programs) audit for spam, DOS attacks and hate speech, etc. making Bitfari simple and safe to use.

Can you make another demo video but from the publisher's perspective? After all, you're not going to get any advertisers if the number of publishers on your platform is too low, and vice versa. But admittingly before you try to attract publishers you need to get enough advertisers to actually keep publishers there.


The cold start problem, right! Well, first let's talk about the naming of actors in the platform: screen operators distribute ads via smart screens (what you call publishers), advertisers are marketers and regular people that wish to distribute ads via smart screens, billboards, or computers.

Now, the cold start problem. From day 1, the Bitfari foundation will distribute ads promoting the platform on every screen installed, we have budgeted a sizable number of the tokens for this (the budget for this spans five years). Meaning all the audited screen operators will be paid since day one. It will be in faris, but we can get a non-trivial number of screen operators that way.

Some screen operators and business owners will realize that faris equate to free publicity and will start valuing the tokens and installing more screens.

Marketers start coming in, not necessarily when there is critical mass but whenever there is a critical opportunity. This is a very important and key distinction. If you place a single billboard on the lawn of the Whitehouse, advertisers will book ads on it forever from day 1. So you don't need a critical mass to generate interest, rather you need critical locations (http://critical locations).

Bitfari recruits critical locations in multiple ways:

1) The pricing model rewards bigger screens and bigger foot traffic making it more lucrative for owners of storefronts to join in.

2) Registering screens is free and doesn't require any affiliation so is only a matter of time until realtors realize they can make money showing ads in empty lots and use that to better advertise real estate or empty offices.

3) Bitfari screens are information centers, you can use them as ambient social networks (something we haven't discuss yet but soon will), you can use them as calendars, message boards, and translation stations. So you don't need a critical mass of advertisers to find the screens useful.

4) Everything posted on the platform is advertised. You post a screen in a cool location, we advertise it via 10 different social media channels, on our website, thru the marketing email list, etc. Most importantly, this screen will be advertised in the app with location photos, description, estimated foot traffic, and, at the cheapest price anywhere since there are no intermediaries.

5) The big tsunami: our platform allows any individual, agency, IT consulting firm, or freelancer to start their own agency network within Bitfari, install as many screens as they like and take whatever cut they like.

6) We advertise incentives daily, meaning, when there is ad auditing $$$, promos, etc customers fill visit locations where Bitfari ads are shown at a higher rate gaining bigger exposure to the platform.

7) Every Bitfari client is a potential screen, meaning the app you install on your phone, computer, smart TV and watch are all potential network screens. So about 5x per user in the developed world - let that sink in.

Having said all that let's play devil's advocate: very few people install/use the platform. That changes nothing. The system will simply start its exponential growth cycle later in time. But it will be an exponential growth cycle. I'll circle back with more demos and videos as soon as I have them.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: Ucy on June 29, 2021, 03:00:48 PM
Intersting
I wonder how feasible this is considerig other things it may  likely  try to bypass to serve  any kind  of ads without restrictions.Does it bypass fair rules used to regulate ad companies?  And Can users who abuse their Anonimity with the service be held accountable? How easily can they be held accountable? I wonder how safe it will be if you can bypass lots of things without accountability

1. The product is not built to bypass the law. All the screens should comply with local regulations. Let me give you a key example: we have about 10K areas in the software, every area is roughtly mapped to a city and a country. In this fashion we now which laws apply, depending on the jurisdiction different disclaimers are show in other to ensure compliance (let screen operators know which ads can or can't be shown in their jurisdictions). Auditors and pre-auditors are local customers tasked with screen/ad review under the network's guidance. Meaning they complete basic training letting them know which ads are appropiate, etc. Beyond that we have social oracles (bots) than run on and off chain to prevent spam, foul languages, superlatives (for China), name targeting (to avoid diffamation), etc. We will launch with about 50 social oracles but I can picture it growing to nearly a thousand.



Well, I think it's better to simply stick to Moral Ads rather than Legal Ads if you don't want yo be overwhelmed by the complexity of national laws or even get yourself in trouble in the future.
Anyone playing on global level needs to strongly hold on to morality rather than legality especially when certain laws are unclear or doesn't sound right..unless they have the resources to defend themselves in complicated circumstances.
And it's important to use those who actually understand what moral or immoral is and know how to use it properly to navigate through the complexities of national laws without really committing crime and getting themselves in trouble

This is good advice. Thank you. Yes, advertising is a minefield, child protection laws, anti-spam laws, defamation, libel, it's quite complicated and variable across jurisdictions so we have to be careful and conservative as we scale.






Of course. I would encourage you to base alot of the Ad Network rules on Natural Rights . .. that could get you safely far when playing on global scale.  You just need the right people to help you do this properly.
If you want to go the extra mile just base everything on true Love for humans, all living thing, society and most importantly the CREATOR.  If you love the CREATOR you will hardly wrong, abuse or misuse HIS Creations. Anything or Anyone who wrongs , abuses,  misuses this things  get penalized. It's as simple as that. We humans have the Right to use animals and plants for food . We don't abuse them while doing that though.
Rule breakers could lose certain Natural Rights and get penalized for committing serious crime.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: dkbit98 on June 30, 2021, 06:31:20 PM
Also, the roadmap is out: https://bitfari.org/bitfari-roadmap/ (https://bitfari.org/bitfari-roadmap/) While all smart contracts will be out by August, we have to build many clients. We will proceed according to the roadmap.
Free advertisement is interesting idea, but I checked Bitfari roadmap and I can't find when mainnet should be released, latest date for testnet is May 23nd of 2022, that is almost one year from now and no sight of mainnet.



Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on September 27, 2021, 08:01:06 PM
Also, the roadmap is out: https://bitfari.org/bitfari-roadmap/ (https://bitfari.org/bitfari-roadmap/) While all smart contracts will be out by August, we have to build many clients. We will proceed according to the roadmap.
Free advertisement is interesting idea, but I checked Bitfari roadmap and I can't find when mainnet should be released, latest date for testnet is May 23nd of 2022, that is almost one year from now and no sight of mainnet.



1. Mainnet happens about one month after every testnet release. So, we will release Bitfari incrementally, network by network.

2. The Fari token is now on mainnet (https://explorer.bitfari.com/txid/0x0eb14df269fd61ecbd0c660475c0f51b34e990e9ab40f3d134114c32112ff828?chain=mainnet)

3. The app (release 1) is now on mainnet: http://bitfari.com (http://bitfari.com)

4. Additional releases are posted on bitfari.com (app) + weekly announcements are made on the foundation website (bitfari.org)


Title: Re: [Platform on Testnet] Peer-to-Peer Advertising, and Social Network
Post by: blackboy on October 15, 2021, 12:59:47 AM
FYI, screen registrations are now open. Local ad booking goes live tomorrow on mainnet, plus additional tutorials and content will be published to guide users and developers.

We expect to launch with 1500 billboards (for which we are finalising negotiations) and 4 million hours of ads (already booked). Right now we are getting about 10,00 uniques per day, so we hope to translate that into a healthy growth of 500-1000 smart screens added to the network each month.

In November, we'll push the Parra release. That's the one intended for agencies and large institutions. We expect the network to grow significantly then.

Keep building.


Title: Re: [Release 1 on Mainnet] Peer-to-Peer Advertising, and Social Network
Post by: farifan on October 26, 2021, 03:06:41 AM
I see the product already at bitfari.com but only can post ads on my computer. The price of the token is algo going up https://twitter.com/bitfari/status/1450261269299204097. Lots of news with this one. Interesting stuff.


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Advertising, and Social Network Powered by Bitcoin + Stacks
Post by: blackboy on February 03, 2022, 04:46:04 AM
You're invited to our v1 launch event online and free here https://hopin.com/events/bitfari-1-launch-let-there-be-rock (https://hopin.com/events/bitfari-1-launch-let-there-be-rock)

All event details here: https://www.bitfari.org/2022/02/01/announcing-bitfari-launch-event-for-2-22/ (https://www.bitfari.org/2022/02/01/announcing-bitfari-launch-event-for-2-22/)


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Advertising, and Social Network Powered by Bitcoin + Stacks
Post by: blackboy on February 22, 2022, 06:21:37 PM
You're invited to our v1 launch event online and free here https://hopin.com/events/bitfari-1-launch-let-there-be-rock (https://hopin.com/events/bitfari-1-launch-let-there-be-rock)

All event details here: https://www.bitfari.org/2022/02/01/announcing-bitfari-launch-event-for-2-22/ (https://www.bitfari.org/2022/02/01/announcing-bitfari-launch-event-for-2-22/)


Version 1 of the project is launching today. You can enjoy a free stream on YouTube by following this link: https://youtu.be/3LCZKixUfzY

Enjoy!


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Advertising, and Social Network Powered by Bitcoin + Stacks
Post by: promo123 on March 18, 2022, 01:24:35 AM


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Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Ad Network Powered by Bitcoin and Stacks
Post by: blackboy on March 21, 2022, 10:57:12 PM
Also, the roadmap is out: https://bitfari.org/bitfari-roadmap/ (https://bitfari.org/bitfari-roadmap/) While all smart contracts will be out by August, we have to build many clients. We will proceed according to the roadmap.
Free advertisement is interesting idea, but I checked Bitfari roadmap and I can't find when mainnet should be released, latest date for testnet is May 23nd of 2022, that is almost one year from now and no sight of mainnet.



Testnet is live on test.bitfari.com (http://test.bitfari.com). Documentation has also been posted at bitfari.org. All the modules will go live/mainnet in the summer. The token is also live and a small liquidity pool has been created on stackswap.org. In order to accelerate adoption, some 300K screens have been connected to the system, with 25M augmented reality boards to follow soon. Online ads and AR haven't been released yet, but we are only some short months away.




Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Advertising, and Social Network Powered by Bitcoin + Stacks
Post by: blackboy on April 23, 2022, 02:52:45 AM
25M Augmented reality billboards have been added to the system. They solve the cold start problem of having no ads to match with users initially - low engagement.

With virtual billboards, the density of the system can be increased, the number of billboard operators increases dramatically and the incentives for users to participate shoot up.

We are also airdropping coupons of digital land to early adopters. See the tesnet for digital land or augmented reality billboards here landtest.bitfari.com (http://landtest.bitfari.com).

Next month we will release couponing and online ads. Immediately after this we will go to mainnet with the full system. Currently we have about 10k social media followers across all the channels + 1k beta testers!


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Advertising, and Social Network Powered by Bitcoin + Stacks
Post by: blackboy on May 08, 2022, 03:17:49 PM
The Digital Land NFT Marketplace testnet is live at http://landtest.bitfari.com (http://landtest.bitfari.com) !!

You can purchase digital land, which is an NFT allowing you to operate virtual billboards in your chosen location. Approve ads, showcase your message to the world, host hyperlocal apps and content and profit from your efforts!

You can buy entire cities, islands, famous monuments and wonders of the world!! It all goes live next week at http://land.bitfari.com (http://land.bitfari.com)

We have prepared 2.7 million places for minting and imediate operation! Land sells for as low as 4.99 USD. This project will provide Bitfari with total national coverage in the USA, with upcoming mints in the rest of the world.

Stay tuned!!!


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Advertising, and Social Network Powered by Bitcoin + Stacks
Post by: blackboy on July 01, 2022, 05:47:02 AM
The marketplace is up and running at land.bitfari.com. A nice milestone for the project as virtual billboards help with adoption and coverage. The site has a tutorial section, plus token minting is free or less than 1 dollar using a Club100K NFT.

Join us and experience the future of location-based marketing!!


Title: Re: Peer-to-Peer Advertising, and Social Network Powered by Bitcoin + Stacks
Post by: blackboy on August 06, 2022, 02:19:07 PM
We are now one of the most used smart contracts connected to Bitcoin for finalization via Stacks. We have a 150 regular NFT minters every week plus over 10k browsers per day. The API is getting from 2 to 5 calls per second.

You can check the system at land.bitfari.com. Plus, we will soon be releasing a version where you can shop using only Bitcoin.