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So we have another exciting fight in the welterweight division. Crawford will defend his belt against former champion Shawn Porter on November 20. This will be explosive as we all know how these two fighters, Porter gave Spence Jr a good fight when they clash two years ago and lost via split decision. He won against Ugas (who beat Manny Pacquiao recently), and also a W against Danny Garcia. His losses are against Keith Thurman and Kell Brook.

On the other hand, one of the best pound for pound, Terence Crawford, hasn't lost, beat Jeff Horn, (who beat Manny Pacquiao, but majority thinks it's a robbery), and won against Kell Brook.

So this is going to be a good fight in my opinion. I would say that Crawford has step up the plate here in fighting a hard nose fighter in Shawn Porter. I'm expecting a 12 full rounds of action packed boxing.

No odds yet.

I have the feeling that sportsbooks will slightly favor Crawford here. But the gap of odds may not be wide. I am hoping that we will really see a toe-to-toe fight here, both fighters have the same age so there's no question about being older or younger here. It is how they prepare now for this fight and their fighting technique inside the ring. Southpaw vs Orthodox, who will win?

Yes, I agree, it will be Crawford that will be the slight favourite, the champion and undefeated. Shawn is known to fight toe to toe, it depends on how Crawford will react if Shawn started to press the action inside. Both are still in their prime. Crawford has the ability to switch stance, so depending on how Porter will fight, he will adjust, maybe go southpaw and then orthodox for him to confused Porter here. But I'm seeing Terrence winning by decision in this fight.

This is really exciting, Shawn Porter lost against Spence, so let's see if he can beat Crawford who IMO is a better boxer than Spence.

If you are interested in checking the betting odds, you can see it at https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/terence-crawford-v-shawn-porter/winner
Crawford based on the odds is the heavy favorite with 1/5 odds in 2 gambling sites or 1.2 in decimal format.

Finally, been waiting for Crawford to really fight big names in this division as it seems that he was really protected by Top Rank and only fights Welterweight in their stable. So this is the first time that he fought someone that is rated higher in any organizations. So we will see how Crawford greatness is, if he passed and win against Porter, we will definitely see Errol Spence Jr. (assuming he has recovered) down the line to see who is the best in Welteweight division.

Maybe Crawford didn't sign a new contract with Top Rank. His contract as far as I know is up until October and after his fight with Kell Brook, there's a lot of critism. And then this statement from Bob Arum:

https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-bob-arum-not-confident-about-terence-crawford-fighting-on-ppv-whos-going-to-pay-for-it/


That is possible, both are champions so we might see a reunificaiton fight as well. Other fighters in different weight class are aiming for this, to be called the undisputed and holding all the major belts.

It was a close lost to Spence, if not for the flash knock down, the fight could go on either direction. Porter won on 1 judges, but the two other awarded it to Spence. I wouldn't call Crawford though a better boxer than Spence, Crawford advantage for me is his experience and boxing IQ.


That's not very attractive odds 1.2 ML. But that is the initial odds so we might see changes as the fight draw nears.

We will finally see Crawford against an elite welterweight. Porter is a rugged fighter who has had some close decisions against top fighters like Spence and Thurman. He has the ability to pull off an upset so if the odds are attractive enough it might be worth putting a bet on him.

This is indeed a good fight to watch. But I am expecting the odds to be highly, not just slightly, in favor of Crawford once it is out. Crawford is definitely the stronger and more powerful boxer here. Crawford is generally a better boxer than Shawn Porter. This does not mean to say Porter doesn't stand a chance, though. This simply means Crawford has a lot more chances of winning than Porter.

My money definitely goes out to Crawford. If the ML odds on Crawford is too low, which I'm expecting, I might as well go for the KO. I guess that's still likely to happen.

This is going to be a tough call for most bettors. I'll have to wait and watch clips of their training and interviews before putting my money. I'm also favoring Crawford to win as of now but if the odds remain as is, I'll probably take a shot on the huge underdog or some handicaps/specials.

This is the kind of fight worth watching, nowadays promoters keep giving their precious boxers weak and patsies to sustain their boxer's popularity and pocket, Porter is always a worthy opponent on any champion, he has proven himself in the ring and he is not afraid to engage and go all out.

I consider Terrence Crawford as one worthy of the list of pound for pound in our generation my bet is on him, but I will not rule out an upset he is fighting a former champion who is capable of beating anyone in the welterweight, still two months but worth listing in your calendar.

Yes, I will say that Porter is somewhere in the middle of the welterweight division right now, probably top 4-5. And it's good to see Crawford going to face him in the ring. Yes, a good and live underdog, for sure he Porter will be very aggressive against Crawford and give Terrence a good fight. No running and hugging, just pure old style of boxing, toe to toe and for sure we will see Crawford put into a uncomfortable position.

Handicaps will be the best options for us, to get a get odds, maybe by decision or by knock out.

But I'm not seeing any knock out here, perhaps a decision win by Crawford as I also favoured him to narrowly win against Porter.

Although Porter is pressure fighter, Crawford is good at adjusting as well and that's one thing I like about this fighter, very cerebral.

Although the stats are close, Crawford is a fighter that has clear advantages on records and fighters he fought, I don't belittle Porter, he is a tough fighter who deserves a title, people love to see him fight because his style is what people want to see loves to engage aggressively, I like him when he fought Spence he box likes it's his last fight, the fight could go either way but Crawford has an advantage here.

You can probably take the underdog odds, pretty sure that it's nothing to you if you bet on that and you lose them plus, the money you put in that will be grow much bigger when you're bet wins. I might check on those two because I haven't seen those two fight yet.

I beg to disagree on the boxers they fought, Porter seems to have the better resume fighting Spence Jr, Thurman which he lost. He then have a win against Ugas, Danny Garcia. Who on Crawford resume could even match Ugas or Danny Garcia?

But I believed that Crawford will be the favoured boxer as far as betting. But he will be facing a real welterweight with good power, and also a pressure fighter. Probably Crawford by decision 7-5 or or even 8-4 rounds advantage.

Both fighters have a good knock out percentage, and they are capable of pulling out a knock, there's a possibility of a knockout, we all know both fighters are patient and do not force a knockout, and since they both like to engage, there will be an opening or opportunity for both of them to get a knockout, I expect fireworks on these two exciting fighters.

With zero loss record, yup Crawford will be the favorite I think but not that wide though.

Though his fight record is a little bit few and has not faced big names in the welterweight, I consider Terrence Crawford the ace in this division (many might disagree but it is just me thinking).

This might be the first of many fights we see Crawford fighting popular fighters.

Nice fight and I think it will end as soon as expected since both fighters are known for their power and knock-out record. Both are still in their prime and I think Crawford has some slight advantage due to his clean record. Although Porter is the underdog, he has a high chance to win this fight because of his power and strategy. Is this also their first fight this year? then it's was a long time for both of them. I hope they still both have their power when they step in the ring.

2 weeks after the Caleb Plant - Canelo Alvarez fight, we will see another great fight in Crawford and Porter.

Well, we all know already that Crawford will have be the favorite here because he is the champion and at the same time he is also undefeated but the differences between these 2 aren't that far since both of them are good players. If you are a bettor, think twice :D. We've already saw the Pacquiao-Ugas fight where many are betting Pacquiao as the winner but it didn't happen. I'm not saying that this will happen here but still, there is a chance for the underdog to win. A punch can change everything. :)

I think he will be able to pull it off although this isn't that big of a fight given that he had a chance with Pacquiao or that Pacquiao ducked the opportunity to fight him but either way, it's not that big of a stage for him compared to Pacquaio.

Contrary to what people think, I believe that Shawn is going to bring hell down. He has physical strength better than Crawford who I think is overrated. Shawn is the underdog and will take Crawford down i don't know what round though. It's going to be a tough one, let's see how it goes.

If you are rooting for Shawn, the odds are very good as the bookies are favoring Crawford here. In betja sportsbook, it is x4.20 if you bet on Shawn. I thought the odds will be not this wide, but it may still change once the fight is near.

https://i.postimg.cc/6qvDKgqX/Screen-Shot-2021-09-16-at-5-41-03-AM.png

This won't be a boring fight for sure, I can see this as a close fight where Crawford's defense will be tested.

It's like a Crawford vs Horn's fight, but a better version of Horn because Shawn Porter is a boxer and a brawler at the same time which is very durable.
I like to see the betting odds please, anyone already has an idea what's the betting odds of this fight?

I agree, the odds should be close, but we don't know how sports bookies are going to open the betting line.


Yes, him and Errol Spence are the aces, and we also wanted to see that fight to happen.


Hopefully, Top Rank doesn't have a good stable as far as welterweight goes. All of the best welterweight we have are under Al Haymon and PBC. If they can make this fight, then probably they can sit again and line up fighters for Crawford like Spence, Thurman, Ugas or Danny Garcia in the next 2-3 years.

Right, we will see another great fight after that event,

and those who lose their bets from that fight will have a good chance to try another one and see if luck will allow them to recover
their losses, for sure many bettors will have that interest to pick their fighters and place a good amount of bets on this fight.


By reading all the replies and checking the stats of Porter, it's easy to agree to what you are saying. It's not an easy
fight for Crawford, and since he's defending his title, Porter will be more aggressive in trying to steal that belt.


Lesson learned, best to review the both sides and not just to rely on all the hypes and how bookies place the odds.

The parameter that we can use on this fight is Kell Brook, Brook fought these two fighters, he lost against Crawford via technical knock out he took a serious beating in round 4 before the referee stop the fight you can watch the match here
Terence Crawford vs Kell Brook - HIGHLIGHTS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9vTxOkAtVQ)

Against Porter he won via decision, Porter, as was expected, was very aggressive in this match but Brook proves to be a good counter puncher  
and hurt Porter in some rounds you can watch the video here
Kell Brook vs Shaun Porter Highlights IBF world title  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2B8-_7oI0gc)

They say style makes the fight so this is going to be an action-packed battle but Crawford will be the favorite to win here but we know Porter he can hold his ground and if he does better he can pull out an upset.

If the odds released by betja sportsbook, as shown by tippytoes below, turn out to be not so different from the odds of other sportsbooks, then we will not be expecting a close one. I am expecting that when the odds are released by other sportsbooks, Crawford's would not go above 1.40. So as per the odds, at the least the opening, this is more or less a lop-sided battle.


This is rather expected. Crawford is undefeated while Porter is not. Since 2017, not a single opponent of Crawford has gone the distance. They're either KOed or stopped by the corner. On the contrary, Porter's last KO win was in 2017.

^^ The betting odds might not reflect the fight though, Porter is a very tough fighter Obviously, we understand were the bookies are coming from, Crawford has 0 lost and the champion. But this fight is going to be very close. I'm expecting Porter to really put a lot of pressure and putting his head on Crawford's chest in this match. Will go toe to toe, but there will be a lot of hugging, but this is a strategy that Porter will used to stop Crawford's momentum and put his weight around him to get him tired.

So many great fights to close out the year. The Fury vs. Wilder fight is also a few weeks earlier. Unfortunately they are all paywalled through pay-per-view, which means if you want to watch them all you will have to pay over $200 for all three events.



This seems to be the consensus. The record and status of Crawford makes him the favorite but Porter should not be counted out. His unorthodox style tends to give everyone problems. The biggest fights Porter has been in, against Spence and Thurman, there was only a difference of a few rounds that decided the outcome.

The Spence fight was like 2-3 rounds difference, of course there is a knock down in the fight and it was the break that needed by Spence because he was behind the judges scorecard if I'm not mistaken before the knock down. In the Thurman fight it was also a great battle, so his style will really give Crawford a lot of problems even if he switch stance because Porter are not going to stop but will keep the phase on a high level.

Exactly, this dude is a physical specimen and thanks you his genetics he is very powerful at 147 lbs. I still vividly remember a picture with him and Pacquiao in a training camp, he used to be a sparring partner of Manny back then when he was training with Miguel Cotto. So he is big and powerful and very underrated and obviously will be the live underdog in his fight against Crawford. But I'm not sure if he can bring down Crawford, Terrence on the other hand is very smart in avoiding big punchers.

That's his strategies against big fighters and he has success and failure doing that like his fight against Ugas and Spence, I expect him to come out smoking and bring the fight to Crawford, but Crawford is so good he has fought fighters like Porter, he is one of the best counter punchers in boxing this is going to be a close fight, Porter needs to watch Crawford's left hook, he is so good at delivering that hook.

I also believe that it wouldn't be a boring fight because I've seen the previous matches of these two and they have a huge potential to make a good name in the boxing industry. Crawford is quite aggressive during his previous fights so I'm looking forward to their exciting match this time.

Both of boxer are indeed professional and experienced, but Porter has 2 disadvantages here he need to fight with southpaw stance while his stance is orthodox and he's a underdog here. Porter should be careful of Crawford's left jab, he need to learn how to use his right hand to block Crawford's left punch and also find the moment to punch him.

I guess Porter doesn't have high chance to beat Crawford, so I'll pick Crawford for this fight.

Although Crawford will be the heavy favorite that does not that he can beat Porter easily, Porter is a hard nut to crack and proved to be one of the toughest in the welterweight division, some of his losses are close and he is a very exciting boxer to watch because he loves to be aggressive and to engage, this is going to be a very exciting fight to watch I will not miss this one.

If he has the power to KO Porter, then he will win because Porter is not known to be a defensive fighter, he always absorbs punches because he thinks he can take them. if the fight will to to scoring, Crawford would still win because he is the better boxer, but if Porter will hit him with a KO shot, then probably the outcome might be different.

Crawford is good for boxing he has gained a lot of fame and can easily defeat Porter he is far ahead in the fight. To him boxing is more than just a sport the spectators fascinated by the impeccable performance of the boxers fighting inside the ring seem to be fighting indirectly next to their favorite boxers that is why the position of boxing in the world of sports is at a completely different height. And there are some famous boxers in the boxing ring to change all the calculations crawford is an exciting boxer and his tactics are good.

If I remembered correctly, Crawford before is making noise to his promoter to arrange a fight against a boxer that has a quite popular name.

Now with Shawn Porter on the line, at least he got that one. And if win, a possible big boxer again on the lineup. As for the shared odds above, I'm a bit surprised with the gap of odds. Crawford is no doubt the favorite but I'm expecting close odds.

 Well then, we all know odds are adjusted while the fight is closing so better wait before placing a bet.

I have the same feeling, I thought it's not that far in terms of the gap, but this is actually good for gamblers who like to think that Shawn Porter has the power to beat Crawford. He had some good fight with Spence, so I guess this won't be different as Porter is hard to crack, he doesn't play much defense but his style of aggressive could intimidate an opponent.

Terrence Crawford will not be slightly the favorite here. Shawn Porter might have given everyone a shocking performance versus Errol Spence, however, I reckon Terrence Crawford is presently the best welterweight boxer in the world. He only was not given the same opportunities to show his boxing skills. Crawford is also better than Spencer.

Sportsbet has already listed this fight, but no odds yet. I agree that Porter has a chance against Crawford. He almost upset Spence back then when they face each other. Same here, for my list it is Crawford and then Spence. That's why we need to see who is the best and hopefully Crawford will face Spence in the future. So this is going to be an interesting match up, and maybe Porter will derail the Spence vs Crawford.

I'm not confident of your claim with Porter but I am sure that it's going to be a good fight since it's Crawford and that I can guarantee that Crawford is going to be doing a good show with this one.

Crawford cannot become a huge favorite when he is facing a boxer like Porter, aggressive calculated, and willing to take a risk Crawford has faced a lot of huge opposition in the past, but Porter also fought a lot of past champions this is a fight where one fighter is a favorite but the other fighter is capable can of pulling out an upset, this is one of the must-see fights this 2021, we never know there's a big surprise here.

I kinda agree on this one. The odds might not be of huge difference. This 2 fighter are exciting to watch and ready to brawl as they were also both a brawler. Though Crawford will have a slight edge over Porter, because he's more precise with his power punches. But the question still lurking around, does Crawford really fought an elite figther? Porter might be his toughest opponent so far in his career. So, I guess beating in favour of Porter here isn't as risky as the typical underdog in boxing.

I agree with you, this is probably the toughest fight of Crawford and his undefeated record is at risk here. Porter does only have one plan, and that is to pressure his opponent until it gets tired, I hope Crawford is ready for that and he is strong enough to slow down Porter who will just continuously attack him.

He already has a lot of tough fights, he will not become one of the pounds for pound boxers if he is a weak champion, both are tough fighters and if Crawford Porter there's nothing to achieve anymore but a unification bout against Spence, he cannot go on fighting any boxer in the welterweight division he needs to scale up and a fight with Spence is the only way, this fight will open a possibility for a Crawford - Spence fight.

If Crawford will win, of course, he can challenge Spence but they should have fight a long time ago if they are willing to fight each other. They are the only 2 champions that remained undefeated in the same division, why not fight and give the fans real entertainment. Well, there's one thing to consider also as Spence is currently in the healing process on his eye operation, so let's wait if he is 100% ready.

This would be an interesting one, if indeed Crawford will win on this match. Will Spence be open to fighting him once he can step again inside the ring? I think their respective promoters will have a good discussion regarding the purse split if Crawford and Spence will finally meet each other. But til then, let us see how Crawford will perform against Porter. Crawford is definitely the favorite of bookies here.

They still have plenty of time to set up a great fight next year, assuming that Spence will heal and recovered by his eye injury. The fight hasn't made years ago because of obvious boxing politics. And the two are still making a name for themselves in the welterweight division. But since then, they have remain the only two boxers who is undefeated and hopefully with Crawford fighting a PBC fighter in Porter, it will be a start of him facing tough welterweight not in Top Rank stable.

Anything is possible, once Crowford wins against Porter he might think of facing Spence to stake belts between them, if that happened there are huge amount of money that will surely flows inside, knowing how fans loves to seethis two undefeated fighters to meet inside the ring.

For now, it's the healing of the eye of Spence and the outcome of Crowford vs Porter to be taken, then after that the process of communicating between camps.

Next year might be good for them to close this possible fight if ever everything went out in both favors.

Yeah, plenty of time for Spence Jr if the eye injury is really legit lol. Don't take my statement seriously. Just playing with those rumors. :)

The arrange fight between Terrence Crawford and Shawn Porter, is a good fight to see. Like to see again the Knockout streak of Terrence Crawford.

At last, a good and real match after this number of exhibition matches that's all about money.

I hope Spence gets healed properly for his sake and the fight's sake. It's been so long since we have seen a fight like this. Champion vs champion. Both are like the alpha male of this division. And this will surely produce some unbelievable PPV. But we have to wait for Spence to heal and Crawford to win. And if this fight happens my money will be on Crawford guessing he will be on an active form where Spence will be coming from eye surgery.

The odds are now out. From FortuneJack, Terence Crawford is a heavy favorite at 1.19 and Shawn Porter the underdog at 4.83. Other bookmakers and betting platforms have yet to release their odds on this particular match.

I was somehow expecting this because Terence Crawford is the undefeated and obviously the better boxer between the two. But Shawn Porter is a good boxer that will give Crawford a hard time.

https://fortunejack.com/sportsbook?page=%2Fprematch%2Fhome%2Fevent%2F8711822

I guess the odds for Crawford is a bit overvalued, I still believe that although Porter is not anymore undefeated he has the skills to upset Crawford. I will definitely bet on Shawn Porter with that odds, and I don't mind losing it, probably a KO win also in less than 6 rounds if the odds is too attractive

The odds makers are the experts on this so they should have already taken into consideration all the factors and it turned out Crawford really has much higher chances of winning in this particular match. But the odds are still subject to changes as the bout is approaching.

The odds for Porter is really attractive though. I agree that he's probably got what it takes to upset Crawford but I don't think he will be able to knock him out. Porter is not really a knockout artist. If he failed to knockout his past weaker opponents, he will find it even harder to do the same to Crawford.

One thing that these sport bookies are basing are the W-L column, and obviously Crawford hasn't lost in his career, hence the very high and overvalued odds. Porter lost are all very closed and it's against top caliber opponents. One thing that Porter has is his no nonsense attitude and regardless who he is facing, he can pull an upset because of his very aggressive and suffocating style. He throws a lot of punches that might give him an edge against Crawford.

It appears he is hehehe. Nitrogensports listed Terrence Crawford as a very huge favorite with odds of only 1.16 and Shawn Porter with odds of 4.50. My prediction is Crawford, however, now I cannot argue with anyone for betting Porter with odds that high.

Not that attractive to bet on Crawford by ML is that is the odds, and mostly all bookies will have the same similar odds. However, a Porter upset at that line is juicy, lol, huge windfall if he wins against Crawford. Yes, he has the tools, with that kind of style of his that won't give Crawford a chance to adjust. So let's see, the fight is still very far, we haven't heard any media hype yet.

They don't need to hype, this is a big fight and both boxers have their respective fans, so we all like to see how this fight will go. Crawford is obviously the favorite here but Porter is not an ordinary opponent as he also gives Spence a real challenge in his last fight. I believe that Porter also has some strategy to surprise Crawford and as long as he will survive, he always has a chance to upset the champion.

@TravelMug. Shawn Porter can certainly do again what he did similar to the fight versus Errol Spence and bring this to a split decision, however, I reckon the winner will still be Crawford and with a unanimous decision. Over 10.5 rounds is 1.48 on Nitrogensports hehe. That might only be the safest and most attractive bet for this fight.

If Crawford will beat Porter via a Unanimous decision, then I would presume that Crawford is better than Spence if they will meet, I'll surely bet on the one who bet Porter easily, and that's Crawford. However, I really don't think that would happen in this fight.

I'm betting on the same, I also have Crawford winning in the decision as I don't see him KO a strong Shawn Porter who is so bully and will never get tired. 

What might be the result of this incoming wouldn't conclude the fight between Crawford and spence,

If that fight will happen, we do have different overviews. Spence has its own way of fighting, so with Crawford, we can't conclude
who's better until they meet inside the ring.

Just like how both of you foresaw this, Porter has that capability to stay fighting till the end. Over 10.5 might be good to follow.

Best of luck!

Crawford is a three-division title winner and is the best pound-for-pound boxer in the sport and also he has fought an impressive record of 37-0 and 28KO, he currently holds the WBO welterweight title for a long time and he managed to defend the title four times, while Porter who is a two-time title winner is the number 1 challenger in the current WBO class and has a record of 31-3-1 wins and 17 KO, I think the fight will be very hard and full of blood from both boxers, because they are indeed the best boxers right now in their class, but if you look at the record of the two boxers of course I will bet on Crawford's victory.

Right, if you look at the record of Crawford he is undefeated, but his resume doesn't say that much as far as the 147 lbs is. This is the first time that he will be fighting a rugged boxer in Porter, who is a former champion and has a lot of experience. It will be very hard fight and for bettors, it's difficult to choose right now. And the fight could go in 12 rounds with no clear winner. But I will get Crawford like 2 rounds and edge Porter if the fight goes to distance.

Crawford is the heavy favorite of bookies to win this match. But sometimes bookies can also make mistakes especially if there is an upset. However, for Porter to get an upset here, he should be ready how to remove that 0 record of Crawford, think of strategies how to beat him. At least, boxing fans can get a good fight to watch out for and not boxers that will just go around the ring and avoiding his opponent.

Bookies never makes mistake, the odds that we are seeing is based on the perception of the people who are betting in this fight, and if they see that money are going to Shawn Porter, the odds will also be adjusted, so what we are seeing now could move, either up or down as they always adjust to balance the betting, in the end, they still make a lot of money.

Agreed that Terrence Crawford is a better boxer than Errol Spence, however I reckon it would be a mistake to assume that Crawford will always win versus Spence 10 out of 10. The sportsbooks will be very careful in the odds for this. I predict it will 1.90 for both of them hehehe.

Over 10.5 rounds is presently only 1.44 from 1.48 in Nitrogensports, however, Terence Crawford’s last 6 fights ended in technical knockout or knockout. Under 10.5 is 2.63. From Porter’s forward attack tactics, can anyone say that Crawford might be given many chances to knockout Porter?

Also, from reading this article, it appears that Shawn Porter might only be good versus boxers who are not Terence Crawford or Errol Spence hehe.



Over the next seven years, Porter continued fighting the welterweight elite, becoming a two-time world champion in 2018 when he toppled Danny Garcia to win the WBC welterweight title. He defended that title against future Manny Pacquiao conqueror Yordenis Ugas before taking Errol Spence Jr. to the limit in a September 2019 title unification tilt. After dropping a split decision to Spence, Porter regrouped with a one-sided decision over Sebastian Formella in August 2020 to set up the Crawford showdown.

Source https://www.boxingscene.com/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-ppv-officially-announced-november-20--160893

Maybe, but Spence wasn't able to knockout Porter, yeah, a knockdown but he didn't follow up and that is the difference in the scorecard. If not for the knockdown if could have been a different outcome, maybe a split decision to Porter.

One thing I've noticed though is that Crawford is also good when he is moving backward and could deliver some good shots on Porter if Shawn keeps on coming. So this is an amazing fight for boxing fans.

The last four fights of Crawford was against a B-level fighter. But this time he step up so we might see the fight going into the distance with Porter aggressive, brute strength, volume punching.

So if Crawford are going to win, I will lean more of an unanimous decision. Porter chin has been tested before, I wouldn't say it's durable, but maybe it can hold up against the power of Crawford. Unless Terrence is going to be accurate with his punches and target the head with high percentage punch.

This boxing match may really go the distance because I wouldn't consider Porter as B-level fighter here. If in case, it will not be a KO, high likely that it will end up UD or who knows split decision may possibly happen? If you are sure that Crawford will win here, I guess, it is also good to bet the over/under bet line here, which has good odds. This bout for me is one of the remaining matches this year which is really interesting to look forward to. Hope they will not cancel or re-sched for any reason.

I'll likely bet the over here as Porter though you consider it as a B-Level boxer has never been KO in his boxing career, so there's a big chance that this will go to the distance, and we never know what could happen, maybe it will be Crawford that will be KO since Porter also has the power and his pressure style of boxing might be effective against Crawford.

This should not happen as this is one of the biggest fight of Crawford.

With Crawfords style I can see him ending this one either by ko or tko.  Haven't seen the odds but if Crawford stoppage gets good odds I might lay on it.  Be a decent match up but I can't see Crawford losing this one.  Is it ppv?

The odds now in my bookie is 1.17 for moneyline, so for stoppage, I don't think it will be over 2.00, probably 1.70 to 1.90, and I think it's still a decent odds if you think Crawford will not loss in this fight, at least you only have to think if he could KO Porter which is really strong though boxing skills is in below level compared to Crawford.

Yes, Terence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter agreed for ESPN+ PPV main event (https://www.bloodyelbow.com/2021/9/14/22674032/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-agreed-for-espn-ppv-main-event-boxing-news)

That’s a good odds already and might still change as the fight gets near and yes there’s a high possibility that Crawford will KO Porter, this could be a challenge for Crawford but we know him how to fight and this will be an exciting match. I’ll place my bet later on if the odds in some site are much better.

You don't need to rush, we still have over a month to analyze the fight and probably we will also see more odds that would give us a lot of choices to bet on. We all know how good Crawford is, we just have to find good odds that will satisfy our wallet once we win, not the 1.17 for sure IMO.

I agree to you that's the bet seems safe and sure but in my own preference, I will never risks a decent amount for that odds. You need to bet at least a good amount to feel the profit. A $100 bet will just return roughly a $50 winning which I don't find worth a risk. Crawford and Porter are both inside fighters. A possible knockout does have a chance. They are not the type of boxers who will mostly used defense that's why I think it will end up in TKO.

Split decision in favour of Crawford? Possible, he has that same decision lost on Porter jr, it's that the Porter was knock down and that is the big difference in the score, but it was really close fight. Might be the same scenario in this fight. Porter being the aggressive and Crawford using his boxing to defense against Porter style.

As others have said, the odds have open but it is only the ML for now.

I think this fight is on, it will only be cancelled if they tested positive with the virus, but hopefully they are vaccinated and or going to take every precaution not to be infected as not to derail this big fight.

as we have seen this year, there were so many delayed or cancelled fights, even replacing boxers, owed to our uncertain times. hopefully we will not see the same scenario like what happened to spence jr. few days before the fight, something unexpected happen. this match i believe can attract good number of audience. more than a month from now, it seems like there's a lot to happen in between. and yeah, hopefully, this match will proceed as scheduled. bookies anyway already listed this match.

It's good and safe odds I supposed, but I agree that you need to put a decent money to be able to win some. Let's wait for handicap or even if the fight goes to distance or not. For sure it will give us better odds and good to risk at least $100 for this fight. But I still believed that Crawford can outsmart a rugged Porter in this fight. Errol Spence has laid down the blue print on how to beat Porter, I'm seeing Crawford using the same game plan as well.

Sometimes most gamblers would choose the risky one yet with high return in order to gain such good profit. So it's just depends on someone who knows they might wanna lose or win depending on their luck and the favor that would do with the fighters. I can't tell who's gonna win completely on this fight since they were both good fighters. I think I should go with Crawford, it's not that I believe in his power but I think someone has the strong bond with judges here or is it just the judges just like him I don't know but that's what I see in his most fight.

That's what I want to see, a close bout. We can expect that Crawford and Porter will give us that expectation.

They are the type of boxers that is not known that focusing on defense. Instead, they are the ones crashing their opponent's defense. It's also the reason why see their records mostly resulted in TKO. That's how great they are. That close counter scene is the most preferred action by the majority of viewers.

And it could go either way, make the fight controversial specially if it will go to the judges scorecard.

Porter's offense comes from him bullying his opponents, but Crawford is a technical boxer so it will be a battle of styles and adjustment in the fight. Porter coming in while Crawford doing the defense and then countering, so it will be very interesting to watch how it goes and who are going to break down first.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fumGlo7LzE

Porter vs Ugas - very close fight, but Porter beat Ugas here because of his workrate.

Terence Crawford will defend is title and he is the best fighter by far whom Shawn Porter will be facing this November, a must watch fight next month.

I think the odds on this fight will be on Terence Crawford with a record of 37-0 (28 KO) compared to Shawn Porter 31-3-1 (17 KO).
Still I expect a good toe-to-toe fight between them because even Crawford have more experience, still Porter have the strength and grit that can withstand Crawford. I bet this match will be a split decision and not via KO.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32207808/sources-terence-crawford-shawn-porter-strike-deal-nov-20-welterweight-title-bout%3fplatform=amp

This can be an anyone win, to be honest that's my take on this fight, their matches are almost close with Crawford having the advantage of being undefeated and could imply that he does know the way to win against any match up but we might see Porter see this as an inspiration to be the first defeat of Crawford.

That's more encouraging beating an undefeated champ, Porter is also a good fighter and same with you I see this as close fight both fighters have an equal chance to win against each other even it's not the case with the bookies they value the title holder which is Crawford. But if you will going to analyze and summarized both fighters skills, you will see that it's close to one another.

We will see how this one will end and who will be the fighter to bring the glory. I'm more on seeing a toe to toe fight
as it is more entertaining than a run-jab fight ;D

from what i am seeing here, porter will really give a good hard fight in this match. upset may possibly happen as well. so crawford should not underestimate his opponent here and be prepared for this fight. we have seen several upsets this year so it goes to show that anything can happen once inside the ring. now, these boxers can still market their fight as they have more than a month to promote their fight. just hoping that this will not be cancelled or delayed for any reason.

It's really going to be close, I don't see Crawford having more experience. And on the contrary, Porter should have the advantage, he has fought prime welterweights and won against them. And Crawford? his resume is good, but he hasn't fight anyone close to Porter's style. The guy's workrate and chin is unbelievable. But I agree, whoever wins this fight could be in the judges hand and knock out chance is very slim as both have good and tough chin.

Definitely not close. Sportsbet for example has Terence Crawford at 1.16 and Shawn Porter at 4.60. These odds do not suggest a close fight. But I think these odds are fair enough.

Crawford has more experience. That's in the records. Crawford has shown higher level of boxing skills and power than Porter. That is also on the records.

Crawford has KOed the undefeated fighters in Jeff Horn, Benavidez, Kavaliauskas, etc. He KOed Kell Brook who defeated Porter himself.

Terrence Crawford is undefeated and that can be seen in his record with a 37 wins and 0 KO which gives him a more experience that he could ever have to be able to give a good fight to watch for versus Shawn Porter. Also the odds between the two fighter with Terrance Crawford -400 betting favorite, Shawn Porter +300 underdog this without a doubt will give both fighter a tough fight against each other and finally Crawford has a big g=fight. In this case, I'll bet that this fight will go long till round 12 in favor of Crawford.

If it goes to 12 rounds, Crawford will likely win, I hope Porter knows that os he will work hard and find a way to KO Crawford early. I know it's unlikely as Crawford is undefeated, but Porter always gives a tough fight on the fighters that beat him in his boxing career.

He really has to work as his opponent is undefeated, was before a top 1 in the pound for pound ranking and surely it's a hard fight for Porter, harder than his fight against Spence. Spence is really durable but his boxing style is very predictable.

Look! Porter lose to Kell Brook while Crawford KO Kell Brook and that was the last fight of Crawford.

We'll see if that encouragement was enough for Porter to be able to defeat or even better knock out Crawford. I'm hoping too that it's going to be a good fight since as you've said, they're almost equal in strength.

Sean Porter is an incredibly hardworking athlete.  As a child, he did not stand out among his peers in strength and dexterity.  But I trained constantly.  Sean persistently trained punching power, strength, speed and power.  As a result, he became the most dangerous welterweight boxer in the world.  Fast and powerful fighter. 

Terence Crawford is also an outstanding boxer.  He is the Pan American Games champion.  He is called the undefeated fighter.  Many believe that he has a better chance of winning than Sean Porter. 

In any case, the fight between two such strong boxers will be very interesting!

Wow! now that Manny Pacquiao is out of the boxing industry, another match that I think is surely worthwhile to watch, Shawn Porter might have 3 lost and 1 draw but it doesn't mean that he can not win against the undefeated Terence Crawford, he had fought against Yordenis Ugas and win with a split decision and has given Errol Spence Jr. a hard time even though he loses on that fight, I still think that he has given a good fight against Spence, but Terence Crawford is the favorite here in my opinion, and the caliber that he has was really remarkable, but I guess this will be a close fight but I think Crawford will still be undefeated after the fight.

This fight will risk the WBO Welterweight title belongs to crawford, I think in that fight Crawford clearly has a lot of advantages over porters, apart from an unbeaten boxer, Crawford will also of course try hard to defend his WBO title so that then he has a chance to fight spencer later, while Porter will certainly use the fight as an opportunity to show his quality and experience so far, although both boxers have their respective advantages in fighting, I personally predict that Crawford will be able to knock out Porter in that fight and also defend his title.

I like to believe that as Shawn Porter is a decent fighter, still in his prime (I believe) but maybe not the best yet. Crawford has to be careful, he is fighting a different fighter, maybe not so accurate but his stamina is his advantage and he could be so aggressive in the entire fight if Crawford cannot hurt him.

His work ethics is like that, he works very hard every fight and sometimes you think that his style in really awkward because he is a brawler. But he manage it very well, very effective and even won against the Manny conqueror and then Danny Garcia. So expect another tough fight for Crawford. He won't back up for sure because he wanted to proved that he is the best welterweight. But he need to pass the test first against a rugged fighter in Porter.

We do have different opinions, but for me, I just wanted to see an entertaining fight. Like all the fans wanted to see, knowing what type of fighter Porter is, Crawford needs to come up with the same intensity. Hopefully, it won't be like more on defense, but with good tactics, both can fight aggressively.

You mentioned it, Porter needs this exposure again. He's been given a chance to showcase again his skills and by that for sure the whole camp is preparing some interesting strategy that will enhance their chance to win against Crawford.

I guess I am kind of neutral in this fight. Both the fighters look pretty good to me and all I hope is that they can provide a show for the fans out there.  I personally am not supporting anyone in this match, all I'm waiting for is a good aggressive and attacking game from both the fighters. I hope the fighters don't get defensive and ruin the game for the fans like Lima and Santos match previously.

If Porter will be smart and fully prepared on this fight, he will give a very good toe-to-toe fight with Crawford, who is the heavy favorite on this match. So Crawford should really be prepared as well as not to lose that 0 record. For sure, Porter would not come inside the ring without a plan and just let Crawford dominate the fight. He is the challenger so let us see if he will be the aggressive one on this bout.

He always give a toe to toe fight to his opponent, I did not see a fight that Porter is not the aggressor, he is always in attack mode and if his opponent gets tired, that's the time he will take advantage to it.

Porter has fought champions although he loses in the fight but he was never KO.

Against Errol Spence Jr, it was a split decision and against Thurman, it's a UD. So KO will not happen here as both Thurman and Spence are great boxers but they were not able to KO Porter. Terrence will use his quickness, his advanced boxing skills, but will be careful as he might get hurt and will experience his first loss.

This should be a hard match for both the players but I bet that Crawford will be able to defend his title for the 6th straight time (if I'm not mistaken). Crawford has insane statistics of winning 37 games and losing none and having 27 knockouts. That's some incredible stat out there. Unless Porter tries to finish the game early, he will barely have any chance to survive this match. Either he will knockout Crawford within the first couple of rounds or he loses, it's as easy as that.

Crawford is the favourite here, yes, he is undefeated but he himself admit that it will be going to be a hard match because he hasn't seen a fighter like Porter. So he is well prepared but so is Shawn who also talks about bringing the best version of him against Crawford.

I doubt though that he can knock out Crawford in the first couple of rounds. This will be a hard and grind fight which favours Porter. There could be very close rounds that is hard to judge or score.

If Crawford can't slow down Porter, then expect that he will get tired in the later rounds as Porter does not get tired, he keeps attacking like a bull to make his opponent tired. That's his style, he doesn't have a fancy style in boxing, he is easy to predict but it's hard to knock him out, the chance of Crawford here if he can't knock out Porter, is he should use his boxing skills wisely, he'll win in the judges scorecards.

Crawford is the crowd favorite here because of his undefeated record (37-0 and 28KO) and it is such an amazing record to be honest and the talent that this boxer has was unquestionable too, excellent jab, power, ring IQ and killer instinct are his main assets inside the ring but Shawn Porter was also claiming that he is already a well-experienced fighter that Terence Crawford shouldn't have to take easily. This will be an anticipated fight between the two strong fighter but this time I'll go bet on Crawford instead.

You are right, but he was well protected by Bob Arum that he hasn't face another tough opposition after getting the belt from Jeff Horn. And that's why boxing critics has been asking him to fight higher quality opponents to really show how great he is as you describe, specially his ring IQ. But it will be tough for him against an also experience Porter who has been with the best in the ring. It could be Crawford that would win this fight but I'm not expecting hi to knock out Porter

Crawford could dominate but Porter is a different animal, he hasn't been knocking out in a fight yet and his losses were against the best fighters in the division. I would also not expect a KO, but probably if Crawford knows how to dance with Porter, he will still win by an Unanimous decision after 12 rounds.

Of the last two fights of Porter against Thurman and Spence, I see that he remains consistent with his style, his opponents just have better skills than him so he lose. Anyway, time for him to test the skills of Crawford, and let's see if he could handle the pressure of Porter.

Both Crawford and Porter do have that punch that can put them on KO. They are both in-fighter and that's their specialty. I don't consider Crawford as a favorite and dominant on that fight as Porter is also the same. This fight is unpredictable. Even Crawford seems to have an advantage, we can't just treat Porter as an underdog.

Hard to bet on this close match at any betting options. Need a deep analysis unless choosing based on favorites.

Maybe people are considering Crawford as favorite here because the odds from sportsbooks are clear that they are heavily favoring Crawford to win this match. Just look at the odds, 1.x vs 4.x, in favor of Crawford. So, these numbers are saying that they are rooting for Crawford to win on this match. Porter is underdog and the odds are good if you want to place a bet on him. At least, your money will increase several times if there will be an upset.

Maybe accumulation of punches, not not one punch ko that will put them to sleep. Both of them are not well know power punchers. If paper Crawford could be the favourite because he has no lost so far and the champion. But Porter as well has become a champion in the past and fought a lot of great WW.


This fight could be close and could extend to 12 rounds and going to be back and forth fight. With no clear winner. That's how I see it, to go the judges to settle the winner.

If this fight goes to the judges' scorecards, I can see that there is already a clear winner as that means Crawford was able to take the punches of Porter and we know that Crawford base is the better boxer based on the previous matches and that is his advantage on why I believe that he will win.

IMO, it would be fun to watch if someone will be knockdown, I still have a hangover on the Wilder vs Fury fight, I like that scenario of fight to be seen in this fight.

Crawford has a higher chance to win this fight since he hasn't been suffered any losses especially with a kind of opponent like Shawn Porter. Like any other boxers who haven't been lost, I think their opponent needs to give them a hard time just by the start of the rounds. Crawford is not known for his power punches but he has some deadly technique which makes him win this fight easily if Shawn doesn't have any solid strategy to give in this upcoming fight.

Shawn's strategy is to really bring the fight to Terrence. From the first round he is going to be the aggressor and then go with volume puncher. It might not hit Crawford straight in the jaw, but for sure makes him uncomfortable, just like what Shawn did to Spence, as he push him to the limit. And also the same with the Ugas fight, just going at Ugas and he won by a decision. So I think that will be his main strategy in this fight.

That's always been the strategy of Shawn Porter and he has had a lot of success using that strategy.

Look at the fight between him and Spence and you can see how Spence was pressured in that fight, Shawn Porter has been hitting Spence too that's why the fight ended close in the judges' scorecards and this is the only fight of Spence that ended in Split Decision, most of his wins are via TKO, KO, and UD.

Shawn will sure to give Crawford a hard time as he will need to have ways to give Crawford a good match. It will be a test for Crawford but he’s strength and if he can study and provide a good strategy to win vs porter will help in winning. It will be a fight to lookout on how Crawford will execute winning or if Shawn will pull Crawford at loss. Hopefully, they will both show a different strategy that is not yet seen by their previous match to make their match more exciting.

I'm sure Porter will give Crawford a tough time here because Porter is not an easy opponent, in terms of style, I don't think there's still something to change, we know Porter, his aggressiveness is always very evident in every fight and I don't think this fight will be an exemption.

They said Crawford was able to maintain his undefeated record because he chooses not to fight a caliber fighter, well, here's the fight that we are looking for.

This is the fight where fans will really enjoy,

Porter is an aggressive fighter. He loves throwing punches, and he loves countering his opponent's attacks. Very interesting
for all boxing fans seeing him showing again this kind of tempo during the fight.

It's true that Crawford will be tested here. He needs to show his fans that he is also capable of bringing the fight to toe to toe.
Good catch for bettors who love taking the risk here. Porter is one of those good calibers who can upset.

Chances of winning are more likely equal, in my opinion. One single mistake from the champ will cause him losing his belt.

That's why this fight is really exciting to watch, Crawford has never faced a strong fighter like Porter before, we will see how he would handle the aggressive attack of Porter here, and if Top Rank is really protecting the undefeated record of Crawford, then they must see this fight an easy fight for Crawford, but we cannot guarantee that he will dominate as Porter is not a leftover fighter.

Will this 37-0 turns 38-0 or 37-1?

November 20th is going to the day of boxing between Three-devision WBO welterweight Champ Crawford Vs Two-devision titlelist Porter. The purse was agreed to 60:40 (Crawford : Porter) instead of regular 80:20 so that Crawford gets $6 Million and Porter gets $4 Million. WBO has planned to livestream the match on their facebook page on 20th November. Eagerly awaiting to watch. A big fight between champions.

that's a handsome payout during this pandemic period. win or lose, they have their pockets full going home. bookies are heavily favouring crawford here. but upset can happen anytime. but it seems they are pretty confident giving odds for crawford at only 1.1x.
we may see another toe-to-toe fight in the boxing ring after this fury-wilder trilogy fight. at least the money of boxing fans are not wasted with boring and dull fights. we need explosive fights inside the ring so this boxing sports will keep afloat in the market.

It's always a handsome dividend when two of the best fighters are going to face each other. And maybe this is the main reason why suddenly Crawford goes out of his comfort zone to fight non-TR fighters for the first time in many years.

Remember that this is the minimum that they are going to get, there's still money to be made in the PPV and live gates a well.

Just to be fair with Crawford, he always wanted to fight and been calling them, including Errol Spence. And he even said that Spence duck him or, maybe there is a money issue.

So it's good that finally he will fight a non-TR fighter and hopefully we can still see him and Spence in the ring in the future. Or even a Thurman or Ugas fight might be good as well. And it's a winnable fight for Crawford that could cement him as the best welterweight of this generation.

If Crawford cannot beat Porter, then there's no reason for Crawford to call out Spence to fight him, and regarding Spence, I think we should let him relax to heal his injury, we have no idea yet on when he will be back in boxing, the operation was very sensitive, the doctor might advise him not to fight anymore.

What we see is what we get, thus far, this is the best match for Crawford for him to prove that he is not afraid of fighting anyone.

Maybe after this we will see a Thurman vs Crawford, this match-up would be nice I believe.

Not only nice but a great one, there's a saying that style makes a fight these two fighters are not afraid to engage always go for initiative and never hold back if these two fighters fight it will be a legacy fight because both fighters are undefeated, champions and always dominating, bettors will have a hard time who will have the edge.

I think Crawford would win against Thurman in my opinion. Yes, I agree style makes fight and the style of Thurman is tailor made for Crawford and I'm sensing a knock out could happen in favour of Crawford.

But let's see how Crawford will do against an offensive weapon like Shawn Porter.

This is very intriguing match because we haven't seen Crawford fought an aggressive type of fighter like Porter in the 147 lbs.

Crawford and Porter's match is approaching fast. It's almost a month from now. Despite not being the most awaited game because Crawford and Spence is actually the one that excites the people (which had a conflict due to splitting of cash prize), this match will still surely be entertaining to watch. The two boxers have a reputable records over the years and it will be no wonder that their game will be thrilling as well.

Although I think the game would be in favor of Crawford given his standing as of now. But I'm not underestimating Porter's ability and skills as well. Three days ago (Oct 10) they held the official announcement of their fight with the press. The two seemed very great match for each other. Hopefully, there will be no hindrances for their upcoming fight.

I beg to disagree though, still one of the most awaited fight in the welterweight division, specially that Crawford will defend his belt against someone that is a live dog such as Porter.

And with Pacquiao's retirement, someone will have to take the reign of the division. So either Crawford or Spence Jr. But if Porter can win this fight, then it will be a totally different landscape again. So for me this fight is very critical for both parties, Crawford to win and cemented his place in the welterweight, and if Porter wins then Spence will somewhat can be consider the best as he beaten Porter already in a very close fight.

It's not that I don't believe in Porter but Crawford is an all-around fighter and who knows how to take advantage of his height and reach, and we all know Crawford wants to have a unification bout against Spence and it could happen if he could win against Spence and Porter will just become a big stepping stone for this unification to happen.

This fight is really important for these 2 boxers as it is a determining factor where will their respective careers be heading to. Crawford has the advantage, the reason why bookies are heavily favoring him, but Porter has the power to upset this match. So this is quite interesting among boxing fans. At least watch a toe-to-toe fight as Pacquiao already retired from boxing scene.

Porter has been losing a lot of fights lately, he lost to Spence in a title fight and here he goes again fighting Crawford for the title if he losses, here again, might as well stick to being a boxing analyst, he is good at analyzing fights, have seen him giving good analysis especially on the Wilder - Fury fight, if he losses, here again, might as well make a career change.

A good inspiration for him to learn from that last fight again, spence if he does want to survive in this sport.

A chance for a title which he really wanted to earn. This fight will really bring fans' attentions knowing Porter to be an upset guy,
He can beat Crawford if mistake from the other side takes place. While knowing Crawford as a good strategize fighter, he doesn't
entertain mistake as he carefully analyze before he moves according to his plan.

We will see both strong fighters who are eager to win and not to let these opportunities to pass their hands.

You sure of that?

Here are his 3 defeats so far in his career.

2019-09-28       Errol Spence Jr
2016-06-25       Keith Thurman
2014-08-16       Kell Brook

Go check his boxing record before you comment: https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/472133

So he hasn't been losing fights lately, and as far as I know he predicted that Fury will win this fight, so he was totally wrong.


https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-teofimo-lopez-shawn-porter-and-others-predict-tyson-fury-vs-deontay-wilder-3/

Well that sounds like they are going to use Porter, it is for this reason that Porter must shine, and why not win, however I think Crawford is far superior in his technique.

Most people are going in favor of Crawford, although at a time when I practiced boxing, anything can happen, although experience and skill count, I would say that preparation before a fight defines everything, even if you have the talent and everything to be superior.

Possible, maybe Crawford really thinks that amongst the welterweight, Porter is the weaker and it will be a great victory for him if he manage to beat a tough Porter. And then maybe he can call Errol Spence. If Spence is not healthy, then maybe Thurman, the second best welterweight we have in the PBC stable. And after that, a unification fight with Spence, it's cannot be avoided anymore and this could be the biggest fight in welterweight division.

If Crawford would really want a tough match for him, he should call Thurman as this guy likes to bounce back after a loss from Pacman. I'm not sure if it's possible because they all rely on their promoter and with regards to the promoter's issue, I guess Crawford has a little problem with that as Bob Arum would not let his cash down destroy the cash flow by fighting a fighter that he doesn't have a huge advantage.

Caveat though, we really don't know if Crawford has sign a deal with Top Rank to extend his contract with them. But reading as what is happening, maybe Crawford insist that he will sign the contract if ever he faces a good fighter not in Top Rank stable, or this is really his last fight with TR so why not make money for him and for Bob one last time?

There's probably a lot of good fighters that are not in Top Rank, some boxers who left Top Rank were able to make a decision on their own on whom to fight and it's high time for Crawford to take the risk and don't just fight average level boxers just to keep his undefeated record.

We already have a lot of undefeated boxers, but no one could follow the achievement of Pacman, and he is the crowd favorite every time he fights, I guess that's why Crawford should follow.

If he wanted to create new hype in his name, following what Pacman did before will give him more exposures.

Maybe it's a big risk if fans will not buy his move and there're no promoters or not so big promoters that will cater for his fight.
His camp needs to make sure that before gambling to this decision, they already have someone who will help or will carry everything.

He needs to win first, then settle if there're any plans from his camp to do this kind of move.

That's correct because sometimes messing up with the promoter will result to a bad future, though Crawford is one of the best fighters in his generation he has to be smart, ensure that the new promoter can offer him a better opportunity if he will leave the top rank promotion, I'm sure there will be a lot of promoters that are interested on signing him since he is a champion and they make give him big fights if he will not resist.

It will be a good gamble on his side, I mean Crawford in on the prime of his career, he is a American (as compare to Pacquiao), so he has access to everything including good promoters. The thing with having promoters is that they will also have a huge paycut and you don't have the chance to face the champions of other big company like PBC. That's why this is a bold move of the part of Crawford to fought a fighter in PBC - Shawn Porter. It will be a step up and after he beats Porter, he can call the other champions like Ugas, or Thurman, or the other best welter - Spence Jr (although still recovering from the eye surgery).

Well, seeing their records and what they've done inside the ring, I assume this has a good fight, really has.
But I put my bets for Terence, not just because he has a clean record (0-losses), he also has the reach advantage. Well, I expect higher odds for Terence Crawford as he was more popular as he was linked to Manny for a possible fight before he ends his boxing carrier.

You won't be seeing high odds for Terrence Crawford as he is the Favorite in this match. High odds are given not to the dominant one. Being linked to Manny also no relation for the odds change.

If you really like to bet on Crawford, expect odds are not that profitable unless you are ready to bet a big amount.

Try checking some sportsbooks now and see for yourself if it's profitable.

He can still get a good odds, but not on ML.

Hopefully, crypto bookies will open up a line for handicaps. And that's where the fun begins as we are going to look for attractive odds, like per round, or the exact round or even KO win for Crawford.

Betting options like Winner by either TKO or Decision and in what round the fight will end always have good odds. Since the fight is about a month to go, some betting options are not lived yet. While the fight is approaching, we can expect that more options will be open.

But I will not place a bet for either of those. It's crazy and difficult for me to predict what round it will end or how the match will decide.

^^ But that's where the money is, huge risk, huge rewards,  ;D.

The exact rounds is really difficult, at least you have to bet 3 rounds, like 7/8/9 to at least have a good chance of winning. But then again you need to somewhat compute if it's worth it because it the end you might end up losing.

Or the round range (7-9), might not give a higher odds with the exact rounds, but still very attractive as compare to ML or Crawford.

@Kemarit. Nitrogensports had their odds offers for over and under set on 10.5 rounds, however, they have removed it. Considering that it might still be on 10.5 rounds, I reckon the round 7-9 range might be a good bet if you speculate under 10.5 rounds. Terence Crawford’s tactics is perfect for Porter’s style. Terence can switch stance while retreating and hit Porter with a counter knockout punch!

@Boafeng. What is your prediction?

I'm still go with my original prediction of the fight going into a full 12 rounds.

Shawn Porter is still very durable and I don't think that the Errol Spence Jr fight soften him in any form. He has been with tough fighters, like going into distance with Garcia and also Ugas and Thurman as well. His chin is still intact and it will carry him on this fight with Crawford. Porter is a relentless pressure fighter that can maintain the phase in 12 rounds.

So I will go against the popular opinion that this fight with be under 10.5.

I'm going with you, although Crawford is the favorite here, the interesting odds to bet is the over/under of the fight and this should go 12 rounds as no fighter has stopped Shawn Porter yet in a showdown. Crawford also understands that Porter has power, so his aggressiveness might only result in a mistake that will make him open and Porter will capitalize on that.

BTW, what betting sites already have this kind of odds?

I think no betting sites have offered that now.

I check the sites I'm using, both stake and sportsbet but there's only a limited odds where you can only put a bet on who will win straight up.
You can follow this, maybe they'll list it soon or next month.
https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/42192101-crawford-terence-porter-shawn

Me either, I find it hard to predict what round will the match end or will this two fighters fight until the last second of round 12. But I heard that some are already predicting that this fight will not last for over 10 rounds.

My predicition is this will be end via split decision in the favor of Shawn Porter.
Porter had faced many tough fights and can withstand any opponent that has a reach advantage like this fight, although Crawford has a flawless record. I reckon he won't defeat my boy Porter tho.

That's a bold prediction but if you checked Porter's record in his fights he had a hard time with tall fighters, was beaten by Spence, and hardly escaped a decision against Ugas, if you analyze both fights he cannot get in without getting hit and we all know Crawford he is very good at shifting from right stance to left stance, this will be Porter's big problem come fight night.

This might be a big problem for him but as long as Porter survives, he has the chance to hurt Crawford and he is lucky to hit Crawford with his strongest punch, then this fight could be over. Actually, I like backing Porter here although people say that he has no chance, his aggressiveness makes me decide to spare a small amount for him to KO Crawford, I know it sounds stupid but this is just for fun.

Wow, that's a bold prediction indeed, the OP should add a poll and maybe we can see how many favors Porter and how many are on Crawford.

For me Porter lost on the Ugas fight, yes he is agressive, but Ugas tags him with both hands the whole fight. But Porter won so I guess he is really that durable and tough. But we all know that Crawford is very good fighter, he can play orthodox and then switch stance and has a good chin as well. Also he has a weapon a left uppercut, which is Porter weaknesses in his previous fight, just watch the Thurman fight and you will see that Thurman uses it a lot when Porter is trying to go inside.

There's no chance that Porter could win if the fight will reach to the judge's scorecard. Crawford is a champion and the challenger (Porter) has to convince the judges that he deserved to win the fight and not only being aggressive is the key, he should also be hitting his shots on Crawford to make that happen, and Crawford has to look struggling in the fight.

Who knows when luck will hit Porter, a solid punch can send Crawford to a KO,

Boxing have a lots of surprises, upset is always possible fighters can trigger a good hit or a combination that opponent won't be able to survive.

Porter have that capabilities, he is a strong puncher, if Crawford unable to avoid a solid punch from this guy, he have that chance being beated

and his undefeated record will be breakout. Sparing some coins is not bad if you want to add some excitement while watching the fight!

It's not yet on sportsbet mate, but definitely as we get close to the fight date, they are going to list this and give us the handicap and the per round options. And all of Porter's lost are very close, definitely he was hurt but wasn't fully knock down. And that's why I said that this fight will be a back and forth and will go for full 12 rounds. Crawford will be tested here and we will see how great he is. If he won this fight then we can all give credit for him to really stepping up against a durable fighter like Porter.

I see, but is that over/under 10.5 rounds going to be listed soon?

I think if the public believes that Porter will last until 12 rounds and experts had the same thought, then probably offering 10.5 rounds would only give free money to the bettors. As a bettor, I would also look for an easy win and I would agree with you that Porter is very durable, so the chance this fight to go rounds of over 10.5 is probably around 80%.

As always, bookmakers favor the champion. However, I think there is really no favorite in this fight. Sure Crawford is undefeated, but that doesn't mean the good streak never ends. Personally, in my opinion, both of them have equal chances, but as I usually like supporting underdogs, I think I'll bet a few bucks on Porter.

You are free to bet on Porter to win if you think there should be no favorites in this fight, you will get a good odds if Porter will win as his current odds is.
https://www.vegasodds.com/news/free-pick-terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-preview-odds-prediction-november-21/

I'm sure Porter will try to bully his way, and he also has the power to KO Crawford so it's already a good deal to take.

I was checking the predictions on:

https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-odds/

Thanks for that link. +350 looks even better than on Betting Insider, because there is +300
I wonder what odds our favorite bookmakers will give when this fight becomes available. I hope the conditions will be similar. A boxing match on this level can always bring a surprise.

The odds are already out in some crypto sportsbooks here like bitsler, betja.
Crawford, of course, is the favorite here with the odds of 1.14-1.16 vs Porter with 4.71-4.75 odds.
But after the recent upset in boxing, I am talking about Mikey Garcia vs. Sandor Martin, you can really never be sure even if the boxer has very good record.
Martin was huge underdog in his bout with Garcia. So a lot were really expecting that Mikey will emerge as winner.
And now, with Crawford and Porter, Porter for me is not an easy opponent. Let us see...

There is no way the odds won't be similar on our favorite bookmarkers. Expect that line will not have a difference between fiat sportsbook and crypto sportsbook. That's the good thing in fiat sportsbook as they released early odds provided by the odds provider. We can now have an idea once the fight is open for betting on our favorite crypto sportsbook.

In a fight everyone has the punchers chance to win the fight, but there is a reason for Terence Crawford having an undefeated record, he faced some of the top boxers in the world and his most impressive wins were against Amir Khan, Kell Brook and José Benavidez Jr and those were comprehensive victory with knockouts, Shawn Porter will be another one like the ones Terence Crawford faced and it will be another victory for him if he display the same level of skills.

Of course a lot punchers make you looks more dominated, but throwing multiple random punch will make your opponent to give counter punch and you can't defend it since your hands isn't in defense position. To be honest both of Crawford and Porter is a good boxer, the major difference is the record. That's why Crawford being the favorite here, there's a high chance we might see an upset too.

Definitely, it will be offered, maybe it's just a question on what will be the odds? It could be that attractive or not? really depends on how they are going to put it on us. Maybe it is a safe bet, but we will see if the odds is like 1.5x and higher, I'd say it's already good bet for us.

So we just need to be really check our sport bookies if when and what will be the odds in the beginning so that we can bet when it is still higher. Will update the thread as well.

I won't consider his wins against Khan (way past his prime, china chin), and Kell Brook (way past his prime, soul taken by GGG, broken orbital bone) an impressive win, Benavidez Jr, I will give him credit, but he is not even in the top 5 of the best welterweight.

That's why we have been saying that this is the first time that Crawford will be stepping up the competition, Porter is a legitimate 147 lbs fighter and an ex-champion. So he will be tested in this fight and if he win, we will give full credit.

Well said, this is one of the toughest fights of Crawford and there have been many critics on him that he cherry-picks an opponent to stay undefeated and have an easy win. This time, I know it's gonna be hard for Crawford to fight a very aggressive fighter who can pressure him all night and if they don't prepare for the style of Porter and underestimate him, then I think we will witness an upset in the fight night.

Exactly, all his previous fights have been cherry pick by Top Rank so it's all in-house money for Bob. And now that Crawford is going to fight someone outside of his promotional company, we can give him credit if he really wins in a big fashion, like knocking out Porter, who hasn't tasted a lost in the canvass.

So we will see how Crawford will manage this fight because we all know that Porter is a very aggressive fighter and this might be the first time that we will see Crawford getting in trouble.

How could the Crawford critics say Crawford's camp is cherry picking opponents? Are they not looking at the past fights of Crawford? Look at how many undefeated fighters Crawford faced and defeated convincingly? Before knocking out Kell Brook, who defeated Porter by the way, he TKOed the undefeated Kavaliauskas. Prior to him knocking out Amir Khan, Crawford also knocked out three undefeated fighters. That does not seem to look like cherry picking to me.

Let's go back to the odds. They're released by analysts. Crawford has 1.13 and Porter 5.20.

Tell me who Kavaliauskas beat in the past that can even match Porter's resume?

The Porter vs Brook fight was close - scores are: 114-114, 112-116, 111-117. And this was 2014.

I will give him props for taking the 0 of Victor Postol.

Julius Indongo? anyone familiar with this name?

Jeff Horn? the guy that supposedly beat Manny Pacquiao?

Yuri Gamboa? way past his prime when Crawford fought him.

Jose Benavidez? again, look at the fighters he face defeated before facing Crawford. The level of opposition is weak.

And those fighters are all from the camp of Top Rank, so looks like cherry pick to me, IMHO.

Odds are really high for Porter 5.20 currently, so style makes fight, and this is a classic example.

Cherry-picks means picking a fighter that will show you strength and that's what we have seen throughout Crawford's career, a fighter can be undefeated but it doesn't mean a thing, maybe all he defeated in the past has a bad record. And that's why I said I will give full credit for Crawford for fighter a boxer like Porter and outside of his comfort zone in Top Rank.

I remember that Keith Thurman commented about his analysis for the two boxer. Thurman has a lot of experience facing Porter in the ring and he is biased on his analysis. He has a point on all of his comment about the different on skills for Crawford to Porter but this is still boxing and a boxer can formulate a counter for a formidable opponent just like what Marquez did to Pacquiao during there final fight. I think Thurman comment has a mixed emotion because he still didn't faced Crawford and yet he is downgrading much Porter just because he defeat it before. Maybe he is jealous for not facing Crawford.

That's a lot of name. I don't want to respond to it one by one. Anyway we could present it this way so that Crawford could appear as if he or his camp is cherry picking. In a similar way that we could also present Porter's resume, which is actually worse than Crawford's in any way you look at it, in this way so that he could look a worse fighter.

At the end of the day, however you discredit Crawford's opponents and praise Porter's opponents, you cannot revise their fight statistics, their pound-for-pound rankings, the records of their performances inside the ring, etc.

All this I think is created to make an impact that the two fighters are at par with each other and are equal in terms of boxing skills. This is to make boxings fans interested. This is just to promote the fight, that this is a showdown of equals. Which is not.

I could have challenged you for a friendly bet here but since the betting sites are offering very high odds for Porter, it is not worth it on your part.

^^ I'm not discrediting Crawford's resume, it was really superb as he takes 0 of his opponents in the past. I think the trend has been set by Top Rank and Bob Arum on Manny Pacquiao, they put a opponent in front of him that can really enhance his ability and it's the fight is all in house as they said that's why critics argues that Arum "cherry pick" Manny's Pacquiao's opponents. So they have a blue print now, and that's what they did on Crawford, that's why we have the same critics saying the same on Crawford. And this is the first time that Bud Crawford will step up that will define his legacy if he beat Porter.

Yep, smart money and smart bettors will still go for Crawford, maybe by decision or fight goes to distance.

I disagree with that, I believe that Manny Pacquiao is just exceptional, he beat a lot of champions during his career that's why he became an 8th division world champion and no one will achieve that for sure, he is a legend, we can't compare him with Crawford.

however, we can say that Manny owes his success to Bob Arum as well as he was given big fights under the promotion of Bob Arum, so I guess they are still good friends until now although they don't look like one in the media.

He's pointing his opinion and it shouldn't be treated like that,
not because you beat the person automatically, you can downgrade his capacity.

Porter is an aggressive type of fighter, but if he will manage to convert, Crawford will be at risk.
But for sure Crawford's camp also reviewing those previous fights from Porter and analyze to where to find the advantages.

All those opinions and speculations will be concluded after the fight.

That's just his opinion though, but maybe it has substance because he has face Porter before and he was able to beat him in a close fight. And right, Keith hasn't face Crawford so his opinion might be biased at all angle.

I don't see though that Porter will change his style, he already own it, and it's really effective as he has beat a lot of good fighters, and close to beating Spence in that style if not for the knock down scored.

I'm with you mate, Terence Crawford is nowhere near the footsteps of the boxing legend Manny Pacquaio. The Filipino boxer has taught most of the famous Mexican fighters like Barrera, dela Hoya, Marquez, and Morales not to mess with him. And surely Pacquiao made a huge steps on his career just to be the only boxer who holds 8th division world championship.

Crawford is also an aspiring professional boxer who wants to carve his name in the boxing industry. But given his age, we can't compare him for a bit with Manny Pacquiao.

Crawford is still 34, he still has more fights to come while Manny has already retired from boxing.
If Crawford retires the same age with Manny, then he still has 8 years in boxing.

In terms of success, of course, no one in the active boxers now could potentially surpass what Manny has achieved, but Crawford is really good and he remain undefeated until now, so if he wins this fight, it should convince people that he can fight and beat anyone whom will be put in front of him.

We should not compare the success between Manny Pacquiao and Terence Crawford.

It's just unfortunate that Crawford didn't have a chance to stand up against popular boxers in his prime. That's one he always wanted even before but I don't know why his promoter didn't work on that. Even he has a good credential of simultaneously winning titles within WBA, WBC, IBF, and WBO, he still unable to take part in fighting on a big main event with the same level as Pacquiao's main event.

His contract with Top Rank will expire soon according to reports, maybe he can make a risky decision to look for another promoter who can give him a big fight. He deserved a big fight so he will earn the recognition that he is a real champion, not only keeping that undefeated record, he should also risk by fighting champions that are still in their prime.

Actually I was expecting that he would fight MP, but it did not happen, I think it does not work well, promotion problem I believe.

True, the contract is expiring and we don't know if he will still continue with Top Rank knowing he surely have a lot of offers from different promotion.
https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/10/19/22734396/bob-arum-discusses-prospect-of-him-continuing-to-promote-terence-crawford-boxing-new-2021

Crawford needs to win this fight, if he remains undefeated, that would be his ticket to still get a good contract from other promoters after the contract with Top Rank will expire.

I think a fight with Porter is the biggest fight of Crawford, anyone thinks the same?

^^ As far as competition goes, yes this will be his biggest fight and probably biggest pay check as well.

And it's really good to see him stepping out of his usual Top Rank opponents and trying out the first time to fight outside but with a bigger name in Shawn Porter. And for that I'll give props to Crawford. And if he wins in a convincing manner, would consider him as the top of the welterweight division, even higher than Errol Spence in my card.

You can't count on Errol Spence anymore as he is still inactive and probably would not be able to come back soon, so Terrence is the number 1 on his division but he has to fight fighters that are popular like Porter (which he will be fighting as per schedule), and probably other names that were champions before.

on the latest news, Arum said that Spence future in boxing is uncertain.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/10/deontay-wilder-still-dangerous-says-bob-arum-talks-jared-anderson-errol-spence-more/

Me watching the fight between Herring and Stevenson wherein Crawford was present because of the obvious reason that he and his team are working behind Herring. Unfortunately he lost, so I think this will fuel Crawford more to prepare hard for this fight because he doesn't want to go lost. You can see that Stevenson glance at him at round 4 if I'm not mistaken as if saying "your boy is not good enough" for me.

As far as checking his boxing record, yes, I consider the fight against Shawn Porter is the biggest one in his career.

Sad to see it was organized where Crawford is now reaching his veteran age. I hope after Porter, and Crawford is able to get the job completely done, his future promoter will deal and arrange a fight on some big names.  Before that happens, Crawford just needs to make sure he will win against Porter. The latter is a tough guy to beat even Crawford was tagged as a Favorite to win the match.

A tough guy to beat because he is a durable fighter, he has fought champions like Thurman and Spence but he did not go down, he remains aggressive though in the end, he loses on the judges' scorecards.

This is the type of challenger that would give a real challenge to the champion as when a champion feels that he cannot hurt the challenger, he would make an adjustment to ensure that he wins in points which Porter has a disadvantage since he doesn't have good boxing skills like Crawford.

I still count him tough, Errol Spence is still unbeaten and has the WBC and IBF belt. And unless that surgery is not successful or it didn't heal as expected then the boxing community can strike him out and be counted as champion in recess and if he will able to comeback then he could get back his belt again. Don't take Arum words, he is a promoter and obviously he wanted his cash cow Terrence Crawford to remain on the top of the welterweight division. And you can't compare Sugar Ray's injury I think it was caught when he was about on the downhill and the science that time is not that far advance as compare to today.

Arum is not Spence doctor he has no knowledge about Spence's condition and he admits it, I don't think Spence career is over we have an advance technology now to address Spence eye condition, if ever it's a big loss in the boxing community, if Spence cannot fight anymore he is on the peak of his career and it's not yet settled who is the real king in the welterweight division until now there is no official announcement of Spence condition, we should not believe on what Arum will say when it comes to Spence.

Arum is not sure of what he is saying, he only said based on what he saw with a boxer's experience in the past. Yes, Arum is not a doctor, we should not believe in him but let us also understand that when you have a problem in your eye, some doctors would recommend you should not engage with combat sports anymore.

Sugar Ray Leonard got a detached retina and got surgery and this was 1982 he eventually came back to beat Hagler, coming from Sugar Ray 


I don't think Spence cannot come back because of the detached retina the technology is better now he survived the car accident he will survive this detached retina, there's still a lot of store for Spence, his career is not yet over far from over.

And to add to that, Spence is still very young and as others said, with the advancement of sports science, that detached retina can be healed 100%.

Arum is well known for throwing words out of context, because obviously, he is a promoter you wanted to hype. So I think Spence can be back again in less than a year and could chase Crawford for the biggest welterweight fight since Pacman vs Mayweather.

Let's be positive that he will be able to come back but we should also not neglect the possibility that he will not be able to play again. That was a sensitive condition and even if it heals already it will never be normal and it will be weaker, and if that is injured, you know the problem could worsen.

Don't get me wrong, I'm just concerned with this condition too as we know our eyes are very important.

Very possible to happen, Spence still young and whatever injury he has now been very possible to heal without limiting him in terms of his career. We never know what's the real score here and what's the plan behind.

I see your point and if that will be arranged once Crawford wins this upcoming fight and Spence is already healed and ready to fight.  

The interest of fans will push this one. Arum will soon then collect more cash, just like how he did from all those promoted big boxing stars.

Yeah, that is my argument, Arum knows only promotions that's why he says that.

And as others have said, yes detached retina is very dangerous and could be a career threatening injury, but with far more advance testing, maybe they can re-attached it perfectly that Spence can go back fighting at if the injuries didn't happened. So don't count out Spence yet, if Crawford wins this tough match, and Spence is fully healed, then they should settle once and for all who is the best welterweight of our generation.

But before that possible bout, Crawford just needs to settle first and win against Shawn Porter.

The fans might be more interested in Porter vs Spence if the former will upset the heavy favorite Terence Crawford.

That's possible to happen even how good Terence Crawford is.

That's right, Shawn Porter is the main favorite here and might get a high chance to gather lots of supporters since he have also a big chance to win this fight. By the way, this is so far the best fight next month and it will surely be the most crowded and exciting to watch. I can't wait to see a fight of this caliber where one fighter will work hard to keep his record clean against a much more power-puncher than him.

No, the odd favorite here is Terrence Crawford, but many see that Shawn Porter has a big chance to beat Crawford because of his all aggressive offensive style that Terrence hasn't seen.

But I do agree that this is one of the best fight next month, and because this is welterweight wherein there's a lot of money to be made. And as others predicted, this could go and extend to 12 full pack action rounds.

To me this sounds like the fight a few years back between Klitschko and Joshua. Obviously Manny has had a great record and has many years of experience but the fact that he's been out for some time with his opponent running a few years younger too, I think puts Crawford at a massive advantage.  But we'll see... nothing is determined yet

I think the same, right now the priority is that Crawford wins, there is no other way if you want to wait for the great fight against Spence, anyway this fight is a good blank for Crawford and without detracting from the work that Porter can do, everyone wants and expects the Crawford and Spence fight, it's the only thing that matters right now.
Perhaps many are planning the fight as if it were a springboard to fulfill and they are calling Crawford the winner, but we must not claim victory, in these times anything can happen, and if Crawford does not show that he is at the level, he may not come the long-awaited fight against Spence. Obviously for me the winner of this fight will be Crawford, I think I have full confidence that he will win, but it is a risk anyway.

Spence vs Crawford fight might not happen as long as Crawford still stay in Top Rank promotion, if Bob wants that fight, it could have happened before the Pacquiao vs Spence fight, both fighters are in their prime, there's no reason not to fight to prove who is the better fighter unless the interest of the promoters are served which is to preserve their undefeated record.

^^ But we don't know for sure if Crawford will sign for an extension with Top Rank. As far as I can remember their contract will end this month. And maybe this is the last time that we might see Crawford under the Top Rank banner. And maybe he will shift to other promotional company that will give him the fight that he wanted and of course the biggest paycheck every fight until he retires.

You might be right.  And this fight is mandatory, so Crawford or at least Bob Arum can't do anything about it but to honor the mandatory. Maybe Bob Arum still doesn't want to have Crawford fighting a tougher opponent in Porter, but it is what it is.

Regarding his contract, they've been in bad taste lately, as Arum said that Crawford can't sell fight and this somewhat offended Bud. So I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't want to extend his contract with Top Rank.

Crawford despite being an undefeated champion does not make a lot of money in boxing, and probably because Top Rank does not give him big fights.
As per this article, his net worth is only $8 million and for me, that's too low considering he has been a boxer for years.

https://playersbio.com/terence-crawford/

He needs more marketing and that will only happen if he will have big fights, like fighting the best fighter in the world.

Mayweather despite being boring is the highest-paid boxer in the world, I mean he made his fortune in big fights and he never loses.
Here's the point, Crawford is an exciting boxer but he didn't make big money in his fights while Mayweather is only good in trash talk makes tons of money.

That's how effective marketing is especially coming from boxers, so he better learn how to trash talk to earn more.

I closely follow the career of Shawn Porter.  

He was not an outstanding boxer from birth.  The secret of his success is his constant training.  In particular, he trains with an oxygen machine.  He learns to fight with a lack of oxygen.  Shawn Porter also uses resistance bands to train his punching power.  

The great Russian commander Alexander Suvorov said - "It's hard to learn - easy to fight."  

Shawn exhausts his body in endless workouts.  In more comfortable combat conditions, Shawn Porter will tear any opponent to pieces.  

Terence Crawford is also a strong boxer.  However, my favorite is Shawn Porter.

I've added a poll for you guys to vote, so fire on. Let's see how the voting public goes:

Crawford on his recent interview says that definitely this is his toughest fight so far in this career. But he says a Thurman fight will be bigger that this Porter.


https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-thurman-fight-bigger-porter-fight-thurmans-doing-whatever-hes-doing--161558

Maybe pre-injury and pre-Pacquiao lost Thurman is the biggest welterweight. But after the lost to Manny he seems to be settled right now and not looking for a fight. Maybe if Crawford beats Porter here, he might call Thurman out of his 'semi-retirement' and have a fight, who knows.

That will be a good fight as in the first place, Terence Crawford really wants a piece of Keith Thurman. But before anything else, he needs to take the business first with Porter by making sure he will win on that fight which is not an easy job to do as Porter, even an underdog, have the power to take down the undefeated Spence.

Hard for me to choose who will win so can't decide on the poll. Tough against tough. There's no way we can tell who has the advantage regardless of their respective stats and achievement.

Crawford could win against Porter easily if he is quick to dodge the attack of Porter, we know that Porter does only one strategy, he relies on his power heavily and he has a solid chin so he will not easily go down, if Crawford wins, he should challenge Thurman as that is going to be a great fight where personally I don't know who would win.

Let me be the first to vote then: I have Crawford.

Although I have criticized him for cherry picking his opponents previously, he is solid all around boxer, good IQ and very technical and can even fight going backwards, can switch from orthodox to southpaw.

That's why this is really a big test for him, but I think he can win this thru majority decision.

I'm still 50/50 on this one, yes Crawford has all the attributes of a highly skilled boxer, no doubt about that. But he hasn't seen a fighter like Porter who is true offense and his best defense is his offense. So we don't know how he will react? how will his boxing IQ digest the fight itself and what will be his reaction. I can't decide for now and maybe pass on this fight and just watch and see if Crawford is really that good and why people regard him as the best welterweight.

Terence Crawford is a good boxer but over confidence is not good. His recent statement suggest that he thinks that fight with Shawn porter is not that important and he could easily defeat him. Let's wee what develops on November 20th.

TERENCE CRAWFORD BELIEVES KEITH THURMAN IS A BIGGER FIGHT THAN SHAWN PORTER (https://www.dazn.com/en-SG/news/other/terence-crawford-believes-keith-thurman-is-a-bigger-fight-than-shawn-porter/1anxelvl62mop1ltw6liufi21t)

Everyone might be avoiding to fight Terence Crawford. They do not want to be his next victim hehehe. Pacman was also avoiding Crawford when the 2 of them were under Top Rank Boxing at the same time. That fight would have easily been organized if Pacman wanted to fight him.

^^ I don't think that Pacman was avoiding Crawford back then. Business wise is not a good fight to made because that time Crawford is still making his name, and if I'm not mistaken, he is still campaigning at 140 lbs when Pacman is still with Top Rank.

I'm not really sure if every top dog in the Welterweight is avoiding him, maybe because of the boxing politics. Arum is known to have fights in-house so the money will remain intact with his company. Or at least he wants to have control of the fight and the purse unless it is a mandatory fight.

Pacman never avoid any fighter, actually, the first rumor was a Pacman vs Crawford fight but it didn't happen that's why there's a Pacman vs Spence Jr. which did not happen also but Spence had a substitute that beat Pacman in the fight, causing him to retire from boxing.

If Pacman fought Spence Jr. it could have a different story as he prepared for that fight very well.

True, no article would be published if that rumor did not happen.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2938967-manny-pacquiao-vs-terence-crawford-a-head-to-toe-breakdown

I guess if it has happened it could be one of the best fights to witness and though Manny struggles against Ugas, it could be different if it's against Crawford as Crawford is not tall and does not have the height advantage over Manny.

I would really like to see that fight, is it possible for it to happen? Crawford is an excellent boxer, but with Manny there would be other levels of fighting that will be seen, as you say, we will see that there is no height advantage here, I say advantage because I consider that in boxing having height is a plus, Some say no, but it is a guarantee of having longer arms and long legs that if they know how to synchronize well the speed would be greater, although if the shorter boxer is faster then it is not noticeable, I hope this type of fight can be given .

I don't think we will see that fight to happen anymore as Pacquiao already retires from boxing. Too bad, this Crawford or Spence Jr vs Pacquiao didn't happen. I guess, these 2 boxers are regretting the missed chance of fighting the legend. It should have been a very good addon on their boxing career. And now, Ugas was the last fighter who managed to fight with Pacquiao.

By any chance, if this fight between Crawford and Porter will be an upset, it is very nice odds as betting on Porter will give you about 4.75x of your bet.

Anything could happen dude, not because Spence is undefeated he is always expected to win.

Porter is going to be a hard opponent for him as Porter has the power and Durability, maybe not as fast as him but if Spence would be careless, one punch of Porter could change the complexion of the fight.

by the way, odds now is already 5.40.

For now, no. Manny Pacquiao is busy with a lot of things. Lots of distractions now. Not closing the book as we know Pacquiao, he can change his mind anytime. If he will lose in the upcoming election for the Presidency of the PH republic next year, I'm 80% sure he will come back from retirement for the simple reason that, he just wants to come back.


Actually, this was the first time I think a boxer with an odds of 4.75 can make an upset to the heavy favorites. Shawn Porter is not a considered underdog for me. If you want to risk one on his provided decent odds, it's worth trying.

Manny Pacquiao is 42 years old and he is in the fight game in entire life and he does not want to prove anything to the world and he is considered as the legend in boxing and hopefully he stay retired because he is busy with his political life and even if he looses when someone looses focus on fighting it will be really difficult to make a comeback at 40 plus.

Buster Douglas was the biggest underdog win i know in boxing as he was 42 to 1 underdog against Mike Tyson and he won the fight.

Shawn Porter's odds are increasing. The bookies think that Shawn Porter is just an easy match for Terence Crawford but the former is also a tough boxer on their weight class. What's actually their basis and factors on that kind of odds. I'm confused.

Or maybe just a trap for the gamblers? It's confusing now to pick who will win with a good money return.

The reputation of Shawn Porter is not the kind of underdog if we looked at it as a whole. I'm with you that he has the chance to upset Crawford and make a possible big upset in the history of boxing. Taking 5.40 is worth it for me but still can decide if I will take it. Do anyone here will take that odds?

it is really tempting to place bet on Porter here especially we are seeing a lot of upsets this year. the ML odds in some casinos are even reaching up to 6.25x for Porter. so if you are closely following Porter's prep here and you are confident that he has the chance to beat Crawford, you can easily bet on him.
bookies are really favouring Crawford here, seems they are not considering the caliber of Porter as a boxer also. so more than couple of weeks and we will see another good boxing match...

Bookies are more detailed in terms of analysis. It is impossible they do not consider the caliber of Porter. It's just that upon consideration, it is very obvious Crawford has the higher possibility of winning. From the point the odds are released by the bookies, it is now the bettors' money flowing in that will determine whether the odds will continue to favor the favorite or the underdog. In this case, the money is clearly flowing into Crawford's side, that's why Porter's odds are still increasing until now.

That's where the smart money is going to flow, to Crawford side because he has a high chance to win here. Not taking anything from Porter though, yes this is a step up match for Crawford, but I think Crawford has the advantage is all department here, even Porter's aggressiveness can be negate by Crawford's timing as he has the ability to fight going backwards. So if Porter tries to go inside, Crawford will pot shot him every time.

The truth is a pity, a boxer in the style of Pacquiao is very few today, if we take into account that the new boxers or those who are of this new generation have maintained a sustainable level, of course nothing to do with what was seen in The Olympics that seemed to me the most boring in the world, for now the bets if they are at x4.75 is something very juicy if the result is achieved, it is certainly something very tempting, and based on the fact that anything can happen, it is not Bad business.

You have the freedom to make the bet hehehe. The sportsbooks made those odds high for a good reason. This is to persuade you hehehehe.

Terence Crawford is the best boxer who can fight in orthodox and southpaw stances. Shawn Porter will attack and attack, however, witness the style of Crawford to change stance while moving back and jab hard on Porter’s face repeatedly during the whole fight.

Well, Crawford can really do that because he is fast, but why such a strategy? Do you think he is afraid of the power of Porter, that's why he just wants to take advantage of his speed and just score to win? What about expecting a KO from Crawford, what percent do you think he will get that kind of win?

The word afraid does not exist in boxing, the fact that he fought Porter, means he believes that he can beat him. It's all about strategy and every boxer has strengths and weaknesses, so if Crawford sees that strategy as the best way for him to win, I would not doubt if he will do that, he just has to win, that's the goal, or as Floyd said, protect yourself at all times, avoid getting hit.

Such strategy is needed by Crawford to avoid fatal punch from Porter, and because we all know that Porter isn't an ordinary underdog. It is just a precautionary measure.
He isn't afraid about Porter, he just want to land succesful jabs to gain points rather than box him toe-to-toe and look for KO slots. Crawford here have the speed and reach advantage against Porter, that's why he change his stance just to avoid Porter's heavy punch that could by chance results in his defeat. Currently, Crawford has a 76% KO rate in his whole career but for this match, I guess the KO rate won't go higher than 50 percent.

KO may not come easy for Crawford here because Porter is not like a substandard underdog. Porter has also some very good advantages. but looking at the odds, seems that bookies are pretty confident that crawford will win this match. if you are rooting for crawford, better look at odds in over/under as it may give you better profits than just betting on full time in favour of crawford.

That's right anything can happen. The fight is not the same as the other fight we are seeing where the Underdog has no chance to upset the favorite. Shawn Porter is not a typical boxer and even how strong Terence Crawford is, there's a chance he can take down him.

The 5.40 odds for Porter is really putting him as a big underdog. I'm expecting at least an odds of 3 but sportsbook really looked below at Porter at most factors.

It's similar to the odds in the fight between Porter and Spence Jr., but the outcome is very surprising although Porter lose.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterkahn/2019/09/28/errol-spence-jr-vs-shawn-porter-odds-line-value-and-best-bets/

Maybe we can use that as a basis on betting for Crawford to win via decision only as most likely the fight will end in 12 rounds.

Definitely, Shawn Porter has a punching chance against Terence Crawford. He used to be a  champion, so that already speaks volume on Porter as a boxer. And his style are very aggressive and really goes after his opponent regardless on who or what style his opponent have. As long as he can get inside and make them uncomfortable, he will do that. His a big underdog but we can't discount the fact that he might also pull an upset on Terrence Crawford.

Upset only the odds but actually not on the boxer's quality as even if Porter is not the current champion but as you said, he used to be a champion, so I'm sure he knows how to win. This must be a hard fight for Crawford (hope so) because Porter here has only one strategy which is to be more aggressive, pressure Crawford until he commits a mistake that might make him open for a good straight from Porter.

Sorry, I know I must be dreaming but just saying the possibility that others didn't see.  :)

There you are completely right, he believes that with aggressiveness everything can be fixed in a ring, and although it is very necessary it is also prudent that boxing has a lot to do with intelligence, intelligence in a sport can define everything, because it can be managing times, strength, minimizing some efforts, it is known that you should not allow a knockout, but at some point in the fight the aggressiveness goes down, because fatigue is visible because at the beginning you only move by adrenaline, what happens is that the body soon takes its toll on you, and when it is more tired is when Crawaford will take advantage, for me the strategy is already defined, if there may be a surprise but sometimes it is obvious what could happen.

Ok since the fight is very near, I try to look at how much is the PPV ticket:


So it's pegged at $69.99, I think it's $10 cheap as compare to Joshua vs Wilder or Canelo vs Plant fight.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-fight-card-odds-date-ppv-rumors-complete-guide/

And so this is reasonable price, and for sure many are going to buy this one just to watch it at their comfort or with some of their friends having a good time.

^I wouldn't say it's cheap, but it is manageable by all means and it could be affordable to anyone.

And it's good that Bob Arum took it a bit lower as compare to other high profile fights so that many can avail and watch it at their home and as you have said, with your families and buddies have bbq and beer and hope that we are going to witness a good fight between Crawford and Porter next weekend.

The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

That's low in USA and other countries where the hourly rate is around $10 to $15 USD, I'm sure they can afford that but for countries that are struggling right now due to the pandemic, that's a big amount already and that's why I'm thankful if someone would give a free stream in Facebook although are some advertisements from the streamings, at least it's free.

If you want to enjoy it without interruption, then probably buy the PPV, however, I think it's not available in all countries? correct me if I'm wrong.

I think they already have taken that into account that some countries can't watch and there could be bootleg and free streams like in Facebook.

And the obvious target here is North America audience and maybe as far as England and Middle East. Specially Middle East wherein it's now becoming a destination for big fights as well.

So for me many can afford the PPV, just look at the live gate perhaps it is almost sold out by now.

That's right, if they can sell at least 1 million PPV subs, then that's already $70 million rounded off.

As reported by ESPN based on this article(https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-fight-purses-revealed/), the total purse is only $10 million 60/40 - Crawford/Porter sharing.


So if they make enough sales on PPV, that would increase their potential income.

^^ Not sure if they can reach at least 1 million PPV buys though. The Alvarez vs Plant peaked around 800,000 million buys.

So I would say that maybe the max of this fight can reach is around 500,000+/-.

But still this is a good numbers if they hit that numbers as we are still in the pandemic era and maybe there are people are still not willing to pay that steep price.

Exactly, that fight of Canelo vs Plant is a historic fight, so that's expected to gather the crowd, so maybe we will lower the estimate on this fight, I'm even doubtful if they'll reach 500k subs since Crawford is not really sell huge PPV views in his past fights.

This is the problem if the fight is near to the one popular event , the chances of gaining views and bets are lowering because the recent will surely took the place.
and also the popularity of these boxers are not that High in terms of fans and support , also there are some great fights to come after November and like me i would rather Bet on those than this one.

There's no problem with bettors as they'll put their money once they are interested on the fight and if they believe they can predict the winner correctly. We are talking about the PPV sales which I agree with you that this is less popular compared to the fight like Canelo vs Plant but I'm sure people will be also interested in this since this is a good fight and Crawford is gonna face a tougher opponent.

Bob is optimistic that this fight will get a good number of PPV.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/07/crawford-vs-porter-could-bring-in-strong-pay-per-view-numbers-says-bob-arum/

They needed to adjust since the economy was still affected by the pandemic, not cheap but practical. The fact that making it more affordable brings more sales for this fight, household can easily tune in after acquiring and enjoy watching it with the family, good timing for having some quality chat while waiting for the fight. :D

For some who also involve with gambling, once their bet wins, they can extend and add more beers from the table. ::)

Expecting some good action and real gentlemen fight and not avoiding each other, it would be nice if KO take placed :P

It's affordable for western countries, besides, they only target the USA and Europe I believe, so that's already enough to bring in the profit and make this fight happen. Promoters are smart with dealing with this fight, they give a little purse so the fighters will agree to fight but they know they can also make bigger money from PPV compared to the gate entrance.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

If based on the sales in his previous match, then we can say he is not a big star as other boxers are making more than he is making, maybe one of the reasons is because he does not have a big fight against popular boxers so the interest is low on his fights. Crawford probably demanded a big fight and he gets one now although in betting lines he is a heavy favorite Porter is a tough opponent to crack which I'm sure it will not be easy for Crawford to win.

If Crawford wins this fight, he should go for a bigger one, probably a unificication figght, maybe with Ugas.

True, because he was really protected by Top Rank and become Arum's one cash cow. However, as much as Terrence is really good and one of the best for me, he really need to get out and fight PBC welterweight because there's where the money is and of course the being recognise now and maybe he will be a house hold name amongst boxing fans.

I think the price is fair, it can't get higher than Canelo fight, it should be lower and that's what Top Rank did here.

You want stardom for Terence Crawford, however, you want him to fight only against Keith Thurman after building his name from a victory versus Porter hehehe. The next fight should certainly be versus Errol Spence. Crawford and Spence are the kings of boxing’s welterweight division.

Perhaps we should take out Spence out of the equation for now. He is recovering from the eye operation, so for now the best welterweight could be Thurman, although he is not that active and it could back fire on him.

So if Terence Crawford wins here, he can't just call out Spence, and I'm definitely sure he will mention Thurman's name because in his previous interviews, he always believed that Keith is the best welterweight.

Good that you mentioned Ugas, because it seems that no one wanted to fight this guy because of style matchup. And we have seen what he has done against the legendary Manny Pacquiao.

Forget about Thurman, he seems to be contented with his semi retirement and being a boxing analyst for now. It will be a big test for Crawford to solve the style of Ugas if ever they are going to face in the future. And then maybe Thurman will get out of his semi retirement and fight the winner.

Indeed, the truth behind this adjustment. Promoters know that money will flow with PPV and even they will give way with entrance tickets.
there are always people who love to watch the fight in front of their tv sets together with their companies, they are happier watching together instead of bringing their money inside the live events.

Though not everyone, as there are still people who want to see things in actions and want to feel the presence of live fans.

Whatever it may be, promoters will still earn a decent amount after this fight. ::)

We have seen that style against Pacquiao, he's now waiting for another good money fight after that win he deserves more cash now.


I think Thurman is enjoying his rest. He's been paid decently by doing his commentator role,

Good enough to sustain his life for now. We don't hear about any future plans. Maybe if the price is right, something that he and he's camp can't really resist.

I agree with what you said, Spence is a pretty good opponent for the next fight because indeed they are very comparable now and could even be a decent match when this can happen.
on the other hand Keith Thurman is good but you could say Crawford is now having the upper hand after winning over Porter some time ago. and this will only have a slightly different effect when he is faced with spence.

We probably need to hear from Spence camp first if he can already fight, he underwent an operation on his eye so most likely it requires a certain time to get healed, or worst if he can't fight anymore because of his delicate operation.

I guess I like to see Keith Thurman in the ring again, fighting with Crawford, this would be a great fight and I'll gladly put a bet on the underdog which is obviously Thurman.

But Thurman seems to be enjoying his life outside the ring, but who knows, he may want to fight again if he sees himself to be fit again. He is a very good contender to fight with Crawford or Spence and he's only in his early 30's. So the possibility of going back is still high. But talking about Spence Jr, we don't know when will he be allowed to fight again. By the way, he missed his golden opportunity over Pacquiao.
But with this upcoming Crawford-Porter fight, I am placing my bet in the Over/Under line.

This has the making of a very exciting fight there's no bloodbath or thrash talking between the two, they have a contrasting style Porter wants to take the fight or engage while Crawford is a good counter puncher, I'm sure Porter being the challenger will take this fight to Crawford both have strong chins and good in defense so it's more likely to end up in a decision, I favor Crawford to win via decision.

And Terence Crawford really knows what's his up to his this fight:


https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-porter-makes-fights-ugly-he-got-skill-winning-by-any-means-necessary--161972

And this is so true of Porter, he will really do anything in his power to make the fight ugly and make Crawford uncomfortable here. But it seems the Crawford is prepared on what Porter are going to throw on his way. Not really sure though if he can get a sparring partner with Porter's style, but for sure this is going to be a war.

Everyone is expecting a close fight here but the gap on their odds is telling us that Shawn Porter isn't even in the same league as Terence Crawford.

I also don't understand why the odds are so gap. We know Crawford is the favorite here but Porter's odds can be considered as a too easy underdog without a chance that he will win the fight.

Is that how the analyst looked down at Porter?

The fight is completely unpredictable since both fighters have the chance to beat each other whether in knockout or decision. More likely both of them will exchange powerful punches in the early rounds which will lead to the end fight earlier than expected. We are one week away from the fight and everyone is excited to see them fight especially Crawford where he hasn't been active in the right after his last fight.

It's probably the Shawn Porter has a lot of lost already, but it's a very close one.

As compare to Crawford, 0 loss, and is the champion.

So that's why the gap in odds are like that. But that's only in paper, we all now that Porter is more than that. Even Crawford that this could be very well his most difficult fight because of the style that Porter brings to this fight. Hard nose aggressive and very offensive fighter and willing to throw his body that's why he always win close fight.

I agree.

Crawford is skilled but Porter is tough so I think this fight will be competitive and unpredicted. They have both good background of their previous fights and even Crawford remain undefeated, its not going to be easy for him to beat Porter. What I like about Porter is, he is not running away and willing to fight anyone.

Yes, Porter style is like in the 50's or 60's black and white video we've seen. He is not running away from any of his fight and that's what make a Porter fight very exciting to watch.

And even if he is the underdog, he can still pull that surprises, like in the Ugas fight or even in the Danny Garcia fight. Both fights he won by his sheer aggressiveness and pushing it to those guys even if he is being hit.

Referring on both fighters record either the chance of winning is by knock out or by unanimous decision every one were certain that the edge was high on favor for Terrence Crawford because we can see him a 0 loss record and it only shows how powerful he was in the ring in his past and recent fights. Though I didn't also looking down to the capability of Porter because his record is also good, maybe he has a loss records but it doesn't mean that he could not give a difficult fight on Crawford however the odds gap favor on Terrence is high. The main event is just 6 days away and I'm already excited to watch this game.

almost every vote counts to Crawford and the same as mine , this will end up to be a Knock out in early stage . and also Who is Shawn Porter? where did the organizer and association get this opponent when there are more great and worth fighting against Crawford.
this kind of fight is also what i wanted to watch and follow , both boxers keeps their silence and will just give their everything in the fight.

Errol Spence versus Terence Crawford will be one of boxing’s greatest superfights. Why is Bob Arum and others waiting for them to grow very old only to let them fight each other as older, slower boxers? Look at Amir Khan versus Kell Brook.

Also this news.



Errol Spence Jr. (27-0, 21 KOs) is dropping some big hints that he’ll face the winner of the November 20th fight between WBO welterweight champion Terence Crawford and Shawn Porter.

Spence already made it clear last month what his intentions are by him saying that he ONLY wants to fight for a world title in his next contest, and he’s not interested in a tune-up.

Regardless of who wins that fight, you can expect Spence to enter the ring to challenge the winner. Ideally, Crawford (37-0, 28 KOs) will come out as the winner, which would set up the long-awaited unification fight between the two.

Source https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/errol-spence-could-face-crawford-vs-porter-winner/205138

^^ If he will be present on the fight itself, then it looks like the eye operation has been healing as scheduled.

So definitely that is the fight that we are also waiting to happen for years now, Crawford vs Spence or the unification of the welterweight division. But first, Crawford needs to get over Porter here in a spectacular fashion so that Arum will have no reason not to set up the fight next.

Arum waited too long to make it happen? I think if he wants to set up a fight between Crawford and Spence, they could have already arranged it before Spence meet a car accident. I have a feeling that Bob is trying to play safe as he is not sure if Crawford would win against Spence.

If Bob would always do that then most likely Crawford will not renew the contract with the top rank, it was reported that his contract will expire soon so he has a chance now to work with other promoters that could give him the fight that he is asking for. The job of the promoter is very crucial in building a fighter's career, but if it will result to not fighting the best, then it does not make a champion a real champion, if you know what I'm saying.

As far as I know the contract between Top Rank and Crawford is up until October of this year.

So I'm not sure if Crawford has sign an extension, or if this is the last fight under contract. That's why it's quite surprising to see Crawford getting a PBC boxer for the first time and one of the toughest in the field.

Yeah, the fight could have made with Spence before his injuries, but eventually it can still be arrange after this fight.

but on the other hand what you say is true it is not easy to cure the retinal surgery that he did a few months ago. because this must be healed first and really healed because this is something important and so as not to cause things that are not wanted.
despite all that Thurman now still likes an ordinary life off the pitch.
actually I really want him to hurry up to fight again but it's possible he still wants to relax in his private life.

Just think about this, doctors are not going to clear Spence to fight if his eye is not fully healed 100%.

They won't simply allow him to box, simply as that. But if the healing process is so fast and that the doctors say no problem whatsoever they he is clear to fight, Crawford or Thurman.

But first we have to see what will be the result of this fight first. There's too much at stake for Crawford here, if he losses then all of his plan as put to drain.

Agreed. A convincing victory with a knockout for Terence Crawford might force Bob Arum to agree for a superfight versus Spence. However, I reckon an unspectacular win with a decision versus Shawn Porter should be adequate to give Crawford the attention and the contract for a superfight.

Based on Crawford's camp statement even before, it's more likely that they will not extend the contract under Bob Arum's Top Rank Promotion. Since then, Crawford didn't have a chance to fight a top boxer and that's their request for a long time. Shawn Porter might be considered as one of the popular names but that's not enough to consider as "top" by Crawford camp "based on my own view".

Surely, we can expect an update about that after their bout - if Crawford wins.

That's right, this is the last fight of Crawford under Top rank promotion if he will not renew the contract. It's not a problem for him to look for other promoters as surely there are many who are just waiting for him and they could give a good offer to Crawford just to get him on board.

 Bob Arum discusses prospect of continuing to promote Terence Crawford after Shawn Porter fight (https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/10/19/22734396/bob-arum-discusses-prospect-of-him-continuing-to-promote-terence-crawford-boxing-new-2021)

If Crawford is dreaming on fighting the best then he should take the risk not to renew under Top Rank as the reason why rumors came out that he is looking for a new promoter is because he is not satisfied on the time he work with Top rank.

He's not getting the big fight that he deserves, the Pacquiao and the Spence fights slips because he is under Bob Arum who is known to cherry-picked opponents for his prizefighters, he should be like Canelo, who's a free agent and can deal against big names, that is why he is on top of the standing in the pound for pound standing, once he gets out of Arum the negotiation against Spence or Ugas will be easy if you want to be the best you have to fight the best.

I'm really excited for this clash too! Both are talented, skillful and tough that's why this is also a must awaited fight after Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant match. And yes, we know that this match will be a close one and it's very unpredictable in all aspect to know who's going to win and who's going to lose, but it's going to end via knockout or split-decision. It's just it saddens me that most of the viewers and analyst are looking down on Porter because he's tagged as an underdog compared to Crawford who is a champ and has a clean record.
But we'll see who's going down this weekend  ;D

Even I pick Crawford, but I'm not underestimating Porter isn't good boxer since he's an underdog here. As you mentioned Porter is tough and experienced, there's chance will be upset but probably I'm not confident since he fight with Crawford.

Crawford is insane his last 5 fights win by TKO, but I guess this fight he will win in unanimous decision... it's hard to knock down Porter.

Agree, Porter hasn't been solidly knock down or knock out in his career, it's all like he was knock down due to fatigue in the fight. So I doubt that Crawford can put a dent on Porter's chin here unless he really hit him so hard that he didn't expect it.

So this might be ended up in a UD for Crawford, but a very tough and rugged fight for him. It will not be an easy fight. Porter might win a couple of rounds as well.

Actually for me Underdogs fighters are the one to look out because they sometimes beat the champ and make their name on the top sooner.

We have seen some of them becomes one of the most popular and named boxers now.

But like you I am betting for Crawford in this one because i have been looking for the man in the last few years of his career.

This is so true mate, he really need not to sign another contract with Top Rank, he can be a freelancer so that he can fight whoever he wants. Top Rank doesn't have the best welwerweight in the division, it's all on the PBC or Al Haymon stable.

Or he can sign with Al with all the good money and then he can fight them with no problem. He is also not getting any younger, he still has like good 3-4 fights in him. He shouldn't waste it fighting bums.

Porter is not an easy fighter, more on aggressive type of style. If Crawford mismanages him, the chance of knocking him down is also possible.

But, I can say if we will see the same Crawford in this fight, ending this with UD is much expected,
he knows how to control when he thinks that he can lose the fight, he will adjust and play the safe style.

He can do some jabs and then move away from Porter to avoid hitting him with a wild shot,
the kind of punches that can take him down.

Crawford is quick, while Porter is maybe strong but he is very predictable, therefore it's easy for Crawford to avoid the power punches of Porter and he will just counter him  to score. If this fight ended up in the judges scorecards, then most likely Crawford will go home as the winner.

In most cases, the quicker fighter in the ring gets the higher chance of winning.

Just like Manny Pacquiao, his quickness is his key to victory and he was able to become a legend becoming an 8th division champion and with his quickness, he was able to beat bigger opponents, and not only that, it looks very easy on his part.

I myself am optimistic about Crawford's victory actually because statistically he is superior in various aspects but experience is indeed on Porter's side here. I'm not moving though and I'd like to see Crawford on track to victory and ready to head towards a unified welterweight spence.
On the other hand, Spence has indeed been able to compete and the doctor has said that he is free and 100 percent cured but I think there will still be a slight difference that Spence will receive after this operation.

As optimistic as the bookie because he is currently-590 moneyline to win this fight, or let's say he is the heavy favorite to win.
https://edge.twinspires.com/boxing/crawford-vs-porter-betting-odds-preview-pick-nov-20/

He will likely win this fight but I like to see him respond to a tough challenger who knows nothing but attacks his opponent and bully his way.
Crawford has to find a way to counter Porter very well as he is quick and for sure he can find a timing to through a clean counter punch.

Yes, as what they say in boxing as proven by Manny "speed kills". But I don't see Crawford as like Manny though in terms of speed, he just throw short burst of punch and that's it, maybe it's the timing and not really that speed. But against Porter who is super aggressive, it will be very evident.

Specially if he does this counterpunching and not allowing Porter to take charge like a bull. Crawford will be the matador, his moves very calculated.

He has to do that so he will not get tired in the fight, Porter is known to be a bull in the ring and he does not respect the power of his opponent. Look how Spence struggles against Porter, though Spence was the heavy favorite but he really work hard just to win in a split decision against Porter. Maybe it will be different in this fight, but Porter has proven he can go toe to toe against a champion and Crawford is not gonna be an exemption.

I think this is a great matchup for Crawford.  He is good at taking opponents aggressiveness and make it an advantage for him.  Porter just better hope he doesn't do him in.  I see Crawford putting Porter on the floor with a counter flurry.  Can't wait for the fight Crawford is one of my favorite boxers to watch right now.

^^ It's possible that Porter could suffer a flash knock down, just like in the Spence fight.

But maybe it will be because he is very tired and fatigue in this fight. He is throws a lot of punches in his every fight, but I don't think that Crawford can put a ko punch on Porter here. Both of them have a tough chin, so this could go to distance. And maybe the knock down could spell the difference on who is going to win in this fight.

Yeah Porter can definately take some lunches but Crawford throws a stiff straight arm jab and if he connects on a combo with Porter getting himself too far in he will knock him out.  But hey Porter connects on an early flurry and this can go sideways quick.  My money is on Crawford with a ko/tko on this one though.

A KO/TKO bet on Crawford is the better bet in terms of winnings because the ML odds for Crawford is too low, to the extent that it is not worth betting anymore. 1.10 is not worth betting except if you are willing to risk a much bigger amount.

It is interesting to look at the possibility of a Crawford KO/TKO win. Porter has never been KOed/TKOed. The man has a tough chin. But on the other side, Crawford has been technically knocking out his opponents since 2015.

Betting on Crawford KO/TKO is the real gamble here. I'm thinking of doing the same.

It should only be Errol Spence for Terence Crawford’s next fight after Shawn Porter. I speculate Errol Spence wants to have that fight also because of the money and because Spence knows that he and Crawford are presently the only kings of welterweight. Crawford also knows this.

I predict in Terence Crawford’s next contract, it will be agreed that his next fight should be for unification of welterweight championship versus Spence.

Hopefully this will be the case if he beat Shawn Porter (most likely), there's no more active welter right now that can really have a good match except Errol Spence. And if the reports are true that his eye injury is remedy and now healthy, then they should set it up. Unless neither one of them wanted to make the fight to happen, and the only reasons I can only think of is the money and the split. Who will take the lion share? can they both agreed to a 50/50 split?

And maybe Porter learned from that loss and start to change his fighting style, not too aggressive to conserve stamina,

He might try to push closer to make a big damage and KO Crawford, if he will not change his style, Crawford can easily play him with jab and run,
this champ is very good in defending his critical area. He will not allow Porter to easily trigger this part.

It's important for Porter to play his card when it's needed the most. His opponent already knew his style, better to make adjustments and surprise
Crawford's camp.

That's always been his style though, so I doubt that he will change it here in the Crawford fight.

On the contrary, I'm thinking that he will be super aggressive in this one, and will try to make Crawford very uncomfortable in this fight. Yes, we all know that he can switch stance, fight backwards, counter, but if Porter are not going to give him breathing room, he might not utilised his skills. However, it's the question on how Porter can sustain his run, he might get tired if this is his strategy.

Right, and his style fits Crawford, a defensive fighter against a hard nose like Porter, this is really a clash of their style. And we really don't know who will remain on top.

Porter hasn't knock out with this style so he will continue with it because it made him a champion. All of his losses are very close fight that's why this fight might be the same, very hard for judges to score because of the contrasting style this two have.

He hasn't been knockout because he is strong, unfortunately if he fought a boxer who are fast and knows how to use the ring, he will lose.

Actually not so close, only the last fight against Spence is close because Spence won only by split decision.

his two other losses are against Keith Thurman (UD) , and Kell Brook (MD), and mind you, Crawford beat Kell Brook via TKO.

But if you check the score on the Thurman vs Porter fight, I would say that it was close, 115-113 on all 3 judges, it might be a UD but not a UD that the difference is very far.

Against Brook, Porter fought Brook during his prime, the best version of Kell Brook.

When Crawford fought Brook, GGG disfigured his face already, broke his orbital bone, then Spence KO him the next fight.

I would say that the Brook that Crawford fought was already way past his prime. Just a remnants of his old self.

So you can't compare the version of Brook that Porter fought and the version that Crawford had.

This fight will go to the scorecards I think because both fighters are tough and Porter will still bulldoze his way into Crawford trying to slow him down going into the championship rounds.
 
This fight is for Terrence Crawford to shine so I'll go with him winning via Decision as Porter is one tough customer and @1.74 it's not bad to bet for him.

https://i.imgur.com/3awUVCV.jpg

^^ Yeah, it's not that bad for a Crawford decision.

Not expecting a wild swing odds, I think it will remain like that as the fight date gets close. So it's better to get our bet early to at least have that odds. And better throw some good money at Crawford with that odds so that we can enjoy some winnings. KO is very far in this fight, both have very good chin and by far no Porter hasn't lost by a knock out either.

How about Porter by KO?

That x15 is very sweet, I'm sure everyone is betting on Crawford to win but since Porter has not been KO in his fights, then maybe he has a chance to pull an upset and that is by knocking out Crawford. Does anyone sees it possible to happen?

Not sure if he can pull a KO against Crawford mate. Unless he is extremely lucky and caught Crawford coming it and then he it him so hard that he didn't see it coming.

But in any case, I'm not seeing it happening, Crawford is too intelligent to be KO. If there is a chance for Porter to pull an upset, it might be in the judges score card with a split decision win.

That's why the odds is very high because there's a little chance that Porter will upset Crawford in this fight.
As per this odds calculated, https://www.aceodds.com/bet-calculator/odds-converter.html... 15 is equivalent to 6.7% chance of winning, so that's really low.

but on the other hand we should not look at porter with one eye because indeed he is one of the boxers who is quite aggressive and indeed the experience he has is more than enough to compete with Crawford.
but on the other hand I like what Crawford has but not Porter which is he can turn other people's aggressiveness into his own and inevitably boxers who face Crawford have to rack their brains.
he is one of the smartest boxers and can take advantage of the opponent's advantage into his advantage then it is certain that he will be seeded.

That x15 is indeed very sweet and attractive but if only Porter can fortunately manage to get that lucky punch to knock Crawford out. But I think it's way too impossible for Porter to pull a knockout punch, I really don't see that it would be possible. I mean look at Crawford's jaw, by the looks of it, you can already see it.
The only possible outcome is either of them can win via split-decision or chances are Porter getting knocked-out by Crawford.

The truth has all the logic in the world, and I don't know, but in my opinion Crawford is clearly not satisfied with the work that his promoter has done, and maybe he wants some more action with another, also this life is one of opportunities, maybe there is a promoter who gives him the leap to greater fame, with better contacts and obviously with the search for better fights, this is something that every boxer looks for in order to have more fame, money and acceptance.

Exactly, because he is not making big money despite him being the number 1 pound for pound king in the past in the ring magazine ranking. Bob Arum is just too clever, he won't give Crawford a fight that he might likely lose as he wants to make him his cash cow even if he makes a small money as long as it's consistent, and Crawford as a boxer is criticize by that and he doesn't want that.

This fight is tomorrow night right?

Crawford by decision: 1.76
Crawford by KO: 2.55

Where should the smart money goes into this fight?

I would say Crawford by decision, we've discussed this many times already, Porter is not an easy boxer to be knock out and if Crawford is the favorite in this fight, he should win by decision.

Here's the final weigh-in ladies and gents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNZkQWRYBmY

Both make it to the scale, as usual Showtime Shawn Porter is all smile and very confident while Crawford is very tense. You can see the height difference as well in the face-off.

Goodluck to all bettors!!!

It's weird though that Porter is all smiling in this official weigh-in.

But yeah, maybe he is confident that he can pull an upset here, odds are still in favour of Crawford but again, this is a highly anticipated fight two great boxers so anything can happen.

Height different doesn't matter, Porter has fought a lot of taller guys in his career and his chin is still intact. But maybe this will be the first time that it might crack.

Not with Crawford,  Porter knows how to play his game to still survive. While Crawford is finding a way to KO Porter, I'm sure Porter is also planning to do the same, so if Crawford will underestimate Porter, then we might see an upset here as one punch could result to a win by Porter.

Crawford is just being Crawford and Porter is just being Porter in this face-off, surprisingly it's all business there's no bloodbath, I favor Crawford to win by a decision but Porter is a guy who loves to go for it and engage and Crawford is a very good counter puncher, this has the making of a very good fight, as they all say style makes a fight and with contradicting style, expect explosives toe to toe punching from start to finish.

Backing Crawford to win via Decision also, the same reasoning as yours. Crawford has said that he will be the first one to stop Porter by I don't think that gonna happen as Porter is one tough nut to crack.
 
https://i.imgur.com/MHKqAMp.jpg

@Coin-investor, do you have the link for the live streaming of this fight mate, just like the one you shared for the fight between Canelo and Plant.

Crawford also said that he will find a way to win in any way, so it could not be a KO but just a win via decision as he respects the power of Porter. I like your bet, we think the same and I hope tomorrow Crawford will use his advantage which is the quickness so he would score easy and not get caught up by the power punch of Porter.

Finally, the wait will be over soon, tomorrow we will find out on who will win.

Will there be an upset or Crawford will continue to enjoy his undefeated record?
It could be a very tight fight as a toe-to-toe fight is what Porter likes to show to the world, so I'd like to believe that the fight will not be boring.

Yes, finally we will witnessed this great fight tomorrow night.

I'm still seeing Crawford to be the victor in the end, but it will be a gruelling and tough 12 rounds. So definitely it will not boring and going to be one hell of a entertaining fight.

So yes, Crawford by decision as well for me. And advance thank you for those who can share a valid link to this fight.  ;D

Actually, that's not weird as he always like that at most. He really needs to be confident or else, his momentum will be spoiled. I'm sure he is well-prepared for the fight and will show his 100% as he is against all odds. On the other hand, Crawford will also do the same.


If no choice but to bet on Crawford, or should I say, I really don't like to bet on Porter, I will bet on Crawford by decision @1.76. Hard for me to bet on a KO win by Crawford as even he's the clear dominant on that fight, I think Porter can stand strong until the final bell rings.

I will share a Livestream here if I can find one.

Porter winning the fight will make him a champion, and he could have a big fight after beating Crawford, probably a rematch with Spence (if Available), Kell Brooks, or Thurman. I'm talking about the guys who beat him.

Porter gave Spence a tough fight, so we might see the same scenario here. Just like the Spence vs Porter fight, in ended via split decision.

looking forward to that.

I'm with Shawn Porter here. Crawford will taste his first-ever loss.

Crawford might be the big and heavy favorites here but since I will place a bet for Porter's high ML odds, I will disregard any of Crawford's advantages as a gambler.

Good luck to all who placed their respective bets. Another worth to watch boxing event.

I'm glad to see someone is trusting Porter to win this fight, and you are right, the odds for Porter are really good in this fight. Good luck to you man, and may the luck be with you, I think I'll join you with this and let's make our train. lol

very good, you really believe in this and it's good that most of them support Crawford in this match and they have obvious reasons for that, but you stick with your choice of porter and that's great :)

Whoever wins in this match, of course, does not mean that the opponent is not commensurate because in any way Crawford and Porter are actually quite commensurate and they have their respective advantages and disadvantages.
It's true this is a match worth watching in boxing this year

They don't have an equal advantage here, that's why in the odds you can see that Crawford is heavily favored, however, since sometimes bookies make a wrong judgment by making a certain fighter too overvalued, then most probably upset could happen here and that's what @agustina2 is hoping.

I am picking Terence Crawford to win and continue his undefeated record. Shawn Porter might have moments in the fight in the early rounds but as the match goes to the third and fourth round Terence Crawford will get the timing and then will dominate the fight and i am expecting the fight to end by the 10th round. Lets see how this goes and the fight is finally here.

Yeah, why not go for a KO/TKO for Crawford, there's always a first and maybe he will be the 1st one to beat Porter with a big punch.

And the odds is like 2.xx for Crawford to win by KO/TKO so it is very attractive.

I haven't place my bet yet to be honest, I will Porter as I underdog here, but I'm still leaning on Crawford's boxing IQ and that might be enough to push him for a victory against a durable Porter.

Certainly its not going to be a boring fight, because porter is not a kind of boxer who runaway even he is the underdog. Lets see if Crawford will stay undefeated.

Anyone have links on where to watch?

I think the key here for Porter to win is to really bring the fight to Crawford and make him uncomfortable and not allow him to set up his counter and switching stance. He really needs to break Terence Crawford for the whole duration of the fight if he wanted to create an upset in the division.

For Crawford, use his technical skills, stay away from Porter and make the fight happen in the middle of the ring. Not allowing himself to be trap in the corner and play defense because Porter are going to smother him.

The match between Porter and Crawford has not started yet but all the supporting bouts are also good, lineup for supporting events right now have done great, the match right now is against Falcao and Volny both fighters are undefeated and I hope this fight will end in a knock out both fighters are power puncher.

Is it allowed to post links here that come from social media especially Facebook? I have an active link now but don't expect it will be a usual Livestream since it was hosted by a certain user. As always, expect that host to speak whenever a round is finished. Since the fight is not started yet, I don't know if this host will stream a legit fight but I'm 80% sure he will. There's also a limit of the allowed number of viewers, I think 100,00, and when it exceeds that number, the live stream will be shut down automatically as per Facebook's algorithm.

The champion is being disrespected. Why are there many promotional materials and graphics for this fight have Shawn Porter in front of Terence Crawford? Top Rank is marketing Shawn Porter more? I reckon Bud should knockout Porter to get the respect back.

Crawford and Top Rank is mum on the contract renewal of the latter, this might be Bob's warning to Terrence that if he will not renew, they have Porter to replace him  ;D.

Going to the fight, Porter was very aggressive in the first round and I give him the first round for that.

I have one got it on Facebook fights turn out to be very exciting fight, Porter got a cut on round 3 I hope he can continue and be ok this is a great fight to be stoped by a cut.

https://www.facebook.com/101796692339828/videos/218099290438086/

Great performance and a well-deserved win by Crawford Porter's father stopped the fight after Porter suffered two knockdowns, great timing by Crawford two-step back by Crawford then one big punch same step in the second knockdown, Porter's father did the right thing in stopping the fight because the two knock down will have a toil on Porter, great fight and great win by Crawford.

Respect has been reactivated hehehe. Terence Crawford won by technical knockout! It appears the negotiations for the contract renewal will give favorable terms for Crawford hehe.

It also appears Errol Spence walked away immediately after he witnessed those 2 knockdowns. He will be next for Bud.

Amazing fight both Crawford and Porter, they really give their best performance in the ring. Honestly the first 7 rounds I was think Porter might win this fight since he's really dominate rather than Crawford even he got a cut on round 3 but that's doesn't stop him. But after Porter got knock out multiple times, the Porter's father need to stop the fight on round 10. I feel bad for Porter, if he could survive the last 3 rounds and not knocked out, I think he will win this match.

That's the instinct of the father to protect his son from further damage. After that second knockdown, Porter doesn't have the legs anymore to continue competitively so that's a good decision by the father to stop the fight.

Damn, lost my bet but that's okay as the fight was very exciting and personally I have Porter leading the scores going into the 10th round.

This is also my first thought on why Kenny Porter stop the fight and wave the white flag.

They are talking about war and yes, Shawn really bring it to Crawford and it was even a very close fight up to the 10th round and that knock down. Probably if he continue it might go to 12th rounds and you might won your bet my Porter is already spent and could suffer a worst knockdown in his career. So good call by his father/trainer to stop the fight.

Yeah, I have him winning some early rounds in my book and score is tied going to the 10th round.

Porter though seems to be not that aggressive, like in the Spence fight. Maybe he was really avoiding those counter left from Crawford. And the body shot by Crawford took a toll on Porter in the 10th rounds as it's obvious that he has no more legs.

I don't think he will win though, Crawford can get that last 3 rounds in the official judges scorecard.

Yes the fight is very close until that 2 knockdowns, Crawford played a perfect game plan he knew that Porter will go for it and try to make it a slugfest, but Crawford is a brilliant tactician he figure out Porter by setting up the counter punches, the counter punches are well time Crawford has everything Porter's every move, I believe this seal him as the best welterweight, it's up to Spence and Ugas to accept the challenge and resolve who is the best.

Great win by Crawford, it was a tough competition for him but he proved to the world that he is the best in the division and better than those who previously beat Porter as he was the only one who knock Porter in his entire career in boxing. Also, good job for those who bet on Crawford to win by KO, especially those who predicted what round the KO will happen.

I did bet on Crawford winning by KO at the last minute:

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I just thought that if someone is going to knockout Porter, it could be Crawford. Bud's power is underrated, but I see the fight like the Jeff Horn in which he always tag Horn coming in.

And this is what happen in this fight, yes, Porter has some moments, but Crawford is just waiting for the right time to counter and score a knock down.

He made Porter tired and really look for the right counter. The strategy works and he KO Porter which made the fans impressed with his performance. Congratulations on your win mate, that was a sweet 2.82 odds for that fight is the easiest. Who's next in line? I think Bob will not worry anymore of giving Crawford a big fight as he has proven he can beat a tough boxer in an impressive way.

That was a risky bet indeed, and a nice analysis between both fighters.

Impressive performance from Crawford again and Porter showed impressive performance as well. However there could only 1 winner in case of TKO. Crawford outperformed Porter on this fight, but they both showed good performances.
IMO, the turning point of this fight was when Crawford hit Porter with a hard body shot in the 8th round which drained Porter's energy almost automatic.
That I guess weakens his legs from the that point till the 10th round that's the reason why he was so upset during the 2nd knock down.

Wow, congrats mate, that's a good win. I didn't see it coming as i think that Porter could take Crawford's power shot. The fight was just like the Horn fight but Porter just gave him a hard time at the first few rounds because of Porter's good head movement.

Errol Spence might be in the making as he was in the building watching, hope Bob would give this fight to the fans.

@bbc.reporter, yeah, with the win Bob should respect him more and gives Terrence Crawford what he deserves.

Errol Spence is his greatest rival, unfortunately, we don't know yet when Spence will be available after his eye operation. Not only Bob will be confident but Crawford as well because he beat Porter which has not been KO's ever since. If Spence is not available, maybe let's give Thurman a chance to fight him, I think that would be a better fight also.

check this out.

 Crawford: Thurman Fight Is Bigger Than Porter Fight, But Thurman’s Doing Whatever He's Doing (https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-thurman-fight-bigger-porter-fight-thurmans-doing-whatever-hes-doing--161558)

After his loss to Terence Crawford, Shawn Porter just announced his retirement from boxing


Shawn Porter announces retirement after Terence Crawford loss – father and trainer admitted: ‘I had to protect him’ (https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12474357/shawn-porter-announces-retirement-after-terence-crawford-loss-father-and-trainer-admitted-i-had-to-protect-him)


Not a good way to retire or end one's career but he has a career as a boxing analyst, we'll see more of Porter as a boxing analysts he is good at this.

Another turn of even Crawford made the right decision of leaving Bob Arum's top rank


A great fighter like Crawford not only wants money but also legacy and if he stays on an organization that cannot give him fights that can define him as one of the pound for pound boxers he will just waste his talent, he needs to move forward and find a better organization, Bob Arum is useless as a promoter.

Terence Crawford leaving Top Rank: “Bob Arum couldn’t secure me the Errol Spence fight, I’m moving forward” (https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/11/21/22794490/terence-crawford-leaving-top-rank-bob-arum-couldnt-secure-spence-fight-contract-boxing-news-2021)

Going into the fight i placed a bet on Terence Crawford to win the fight but Shawn Porter surprised me with his resilience as he was trying to win the fight even in the eight round but the ninth round changed the fight completely, before the fight i never gave any chance for Shawn Porter even though i thought he would give a fight in the first two rounds but he was strong even after that. 

This is a smart decision by his father and great that Porter is not against with it.
He fought a good one with Crawford, did his best and people will remember him as a toe-to-toe boxer.
Better save his health for his future. Because boxing is not the only life out there.


Let's hope to see Crawford and Spence Jr soon.
Arum maybe is busy thinking about his business not the future of the boxer.

I'm just seeing Crawford's victory blazing over porter's face  :D
His gonna beat him to a pulp in the ring as he usually does   well i believe since they have fought countless times together in the ring, then maybe,to my own discretion, porter should be able to realize his weak points and aim harder for victory this time around

not anymore, porter is already retiring from this sports. he is done with boxing after this crawford fight. but i can say, porter had a great performance in the first rounds as he was somewhat leading. but he got tired and crawford made his strategy worked.
though some are saying not a good way to retire after the loss, but look at pacquiao with ugas. i guess, the boxer himself knows his limits. and no matter what their fans are saying, they should stand their ground and leave the sports in decent exit.

What's next for Crawford then? Looking for him to compete next with the best-of-the-best after this winning against Shawn Porter. Watching it live yesterday (at my time), we can see already on the early rounds the distance between these 2 fighters.

Kudos to Shawn Porter though that he try to keep up with his phase. Crawford is just too much to handle.

If he no longer signs with Top Rank and be a free agent then a lot of fights could be made.

But we all know what we wanted, a Crawford vs Errol Spence Jr, for unification of the Welterweight division and to see who are the best.

Both are undefeated, and still at the prime of their careers and this could be the biggest fight in 147 lbs since Floyd vs Manny Pacquiao.

Crawford said in the post fight interview that he doesn't think the fight was close.

But here are the judges scorecard:

87-84, on Max De Luca - Crawford
Dave Moretti and Steve Weisfeld, 86-85 Crawford

So still it is a very close match, maybe we could see a split decision.

But anyhow, the judges scorecard didn't matter as he scored a knock out win.

This fight has to get done, Arum is such a big failure as a promoter for not letting it happen he even promises in the media that the fight will happen, but Crawford is right when he says that he cannot secure the fight when he is under, now that he is out he doesn't think he can, promoters should have a talk to get this fight, both fighters wants it.
Crawford's plan is to move up if the fight cannot materialize.

Well since is he no longer with Arum, for sure the fight can be made next year.

There was also an option for him to go back down to 140 lbs and face the unified champion in Josh Taylor. But I'm not sure if Bud can still make 140 lbs. Going to 154 lbs might be a dangerous move as one of the Charlo is the champion there.

And it's better for him to fight Spence first before he move up or move down in weight.

I stopped watching the fight at the end of round 7 because I had to attend to something. Up to that round, I really thought Porter was winning on the scorecards. I was actually surprised in the end when I reviewed all three judges' scorecards that it was actually Crawford who was winning from round 1 to round 7. Was it Micky Ward the other commentator who did the unofficial scoring? If I'm not mistaken, Porter was also the winner in his unofficial scorecard.

Next year would be the biggest fight for Crawford since he already beat everyone that will lead him no choice but to fight Spence. They need to make this fight happen as soon as possible without going for a complicated negotiation which will delay the fight for more years. Those fighters are getting old and their promoters need to consider that.

On the other hand, that was a nice try for Porter, it's just Crawford is on another level for him.

Exactly, there should no longer any hindrance to set up a fight with Spence. And now that he is a free agent, he can talk to Spence manager directly to make the fight happen next year. Hopefully though, there will be no issues like the split of the purse or something, this could be a 50-50 fight, both getting what they deserved.

Majority really did think that Crawford will be too much for Porter. Although we love Porter because of his fighting style, Crawford is just the better fighter.

I also thought that Crawford will lose this fight but to my surprise it is Him that won on the end , a very close fight opposite to what he claimed to be His dominant the  whole event.
If this will be given a rematch I'm sure Porter will take the win no doubt about that.

The aftermath of the Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter fight:

- Shawn Porter announce his retirement. He said that win, loss, or draw, he will really retire and hang his gloves.
- Terence Crawford says he’s moving on from Top Rank with his contract expired. Tired of Bob's not arranging a fight with Errol Spence and the status is always "possible" for long.

The much-awaited fight between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. might likely happen next year.

Shawn Porter announces retirement following loss to Terence Crawford (https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/11/21/22794481/shawn-porter-announces-retirement-following-loss-terence-crawford-video-boxing-news-2021)
Terence Crawford leaving Top Rank: “Bob Arum couldn’t secure me the Errol Spence fight, I’m moving forward” (https://www.badlefthook.com/2021/11/21/22794490/terence-crawford-leaving-top-rank-bob-arum-couldnt-secure-spence-fight-contract-boxing-news-2021)

Both Crawford and Spence have no formidable challenger but themselves in that division even Ugas cannot beat these two fighters they should make the fight happen, Crawford is planning to move up and challenge worthy opponents there, Spence could become the undisputed champion in the welterweight with the absence of Crawford but people will doubt because he has not fought a legit welterweight great in his era.

It is sad to see anther good boxer retiring when His age is just very fit to extend fighting but of course this is His decision to be respected.

On the other hand , Crawford is changing place and with this His dream fight against Spence will come to reality.

yet the fight is very close as i expected, though I am confident about Crawford winning this fight yet Forter shows greatness and almost Beat Him .

Agreed. I am not certain why there are some people who speculated that Terence Crawford’s next fight would be versus Keith Thurman. Shawn Porter is higher in rank than Thurman and they want Crawford to fight the lower ranked boxer? I shake my head.

Similar to Errol Spence, Crawford’s next fight should only be for the unification. This is where Bob Arum made his mistake. He was busy thinking only about his business? Top Rank will not be included in the superfight between Spence and Crawford.

Thurman's rank drop because he wasn't active, but Thurman is better than Porter because he beat Porter via unanimous decision.
Also, Thurman has a decent record with 29 wins and 1 lose only which is coming from Pacman, so I think Thurman is really a tough challenger.

If Crawford will not fight Thurman, Ugas is also waiting for him, maybe he will be next.

Crawford now has the freedom to choose a promoter that would grant his request to fight anyone he wants to.

After the fight in an interview, he announced that he will not be renewing his contract with Top Rank.
I would say it's a good decision so he can dictate who is he going to fight, question now, which promotion will he work with? or will he make his own promotion just like Mayweather and Pacquiao did when they were still active?

https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/my-decision-is-made-crawford-confirms-boxing-divorce-in-hint-at-next-blockbuster-fight/news-story/87610cbf55445d027c46ff0b33f530dd

The boxing community have a huge problem because fighters who are the best in their weight category and wants to fight each other cannot fight because they have different promotion and their promoters cannot agree on the percentage of the sales and who should get the lion's shares, gone are the days when the best only fought the best because there are no hindrances, now we have 4 to 5 promotions and they want to keep it in the house for huge profit for promoters.

Yes Keith Thurman has been inactive for a long time after losing to pacman which saw him drop down the rankings and lose his WBA title, maybe Crawford's next fight will be Spence Jr because he wants to, or it could be Ugas.
Or it could be Taylor because if he wins against Jack Catterall it could be the next Crawford fight, we'll see who's right for the next Crawford fight.

Thank you guys for all the replies.

But I have to locked the thread as Crawford has won the fight. Hopefully we will see him fight Errol Spence Jr. next.