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November 12, 2021, 05:57:31 AM
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Ok since the fight is very near, I try to look at how much is the PPV ticket:

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Crawford vs. Porter info

Date: Nov. 20
Location: Mandalay Bay  -- Las Vegas
Start time: 9 p.m. ET | Price: $69.99
How to watch: ESPN+ PPV

So it's pegged at $69.99, I think it's $10 cheap as compare to Joshua vs Wilder or Canelo vs Plant fight.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-fight-card-odds-date-ppv-rumors-complete-guide/

And so this is reasonable price, and for sure many are going to buy this one just to watch it at their comfort or with some of their friends having a good time.

The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.
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November 12, 2021, 06:09:04 AM
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Ok since the fight is very near, I try to look at how much is the PPV ticket:

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Crawford vs. Porter info

Date: Nov. 20
Location: Mandalay Bay  -- Las Vegas
Start time: 9 p.m. ET | Price: $69.99
How to watch: ESPN+ PPV

So it's pegged at $69.99, I think it's $10 cheap as compare to Joshua vs Wilder or Canelo vs Plant fight.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-fight-card-odds-date-ppv-rumors-complete-guide/

And so this is reasonable price, and for sure many are going to buy this one just to watch it at their comfort or with some of their friends having a good time.

The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

That's low in USA and other countries where the hourly rate is around $10 to $15 USD, I'm sure they can afford that but for countries that are struggling right now due to the pandemic, that's a big amount already and that's why I'm thankful if someone would give a free stream in Facebook although are some advertisements from the streamings, at least it's free.

If you want to enjoy it without interruption, then probably buy the PPV, however, I think it's not available in all countries? correct me if I'm wrong.

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November 12, 2021, 08:41:16 AM
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Ok since the fight is very near, I try to look at how much is the PPV ticket:

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Crawford vs. Porter info

Date: Nov. 20
Location: Mandalay Bay  -- Las Vegas
Start time: 9 p.m. ET | Price: $69.99
How to watch: ESPN+ PPV

So it's pegged at $69.99, I think it's $10 cheap as compare to Joshua vs Wilder or Canelo vs Plant fight.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-fight-card-odds-date-ppv-rumors-complete-guide/

And so this is reasonable price, and for sure many are going to buy this one just to watch it at their comfort or with some of their friends having a good time.

The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

That's low in USA and other countries where the hourly rate is around $10 to $15 USD, I'm sure they can afford that but for countries that are struggling right now due to the pandemic, that's a big amount already and that's why I'm thankful if someone would give a free stream in Facebook although are some advertisements from the streamings, at least it's free.

If you want to enjoy it without interruption, then probably buy the PPV, however, I think it's not available in all countries? correct me if I'm wrong.

I think they already have taken that into account that some countries can't watch and there could be bootleg and free streams like in Facebook.

And the obvious target here is North America audience and maybe as far as England and Middle East. Specially Middle East wherein it's now becoming a destination for big fights as well.

So for me many can afford the PPV, just look at the live gate perhaps it is almost sold out by now.

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November 12, 2021, 09:48:12 AM
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So for me many can afford the PPV, just look at the live gate perhaps it is almost sold out by now.

That's right, if they can sell at least 1 million PPV subs, then that's already $70 million rounded off.

As reported by ESPN based on this article(https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-fight-purses-revealed/), the total purse is only $10 million 60/40 - Crawford/Porter sharing.

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The WBO Welterweight title bout between the hard-hitting Terence ‘Bud’ Crawford and Shawn ‘Showtime’ Porter will attract a lot of PPV buys. ESPN reported the purse for the Welterweight showdown and guaranteed Terence Crawford upwards of $6 million. Meanwhile, Porter is set to earn at least $4 million.

So if they make enough sales on PPV, that would increase their potential income.

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November 12, 2021, 10:49:21 AM
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^^ Not sure if they can reach at least 1 million PPV buys though. The Alvarez vs Plant peaked around 800,000 million buys.

So I would say that maybe the max of this fight can reach is around 500,000+/-.

But still this is a good numbers if they hit that numbers as we are still in the pandemic era and maybe there are people are still not willing to pay that steep price.

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November 12, 2021, 11:25:51 AM
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^^ Not sure if they can reach at least 1 million PPV buys though. The Alvarez vs Plant peaked around 800,000 million buys.

So I would say that maybe the max of this fight can reach is around 500,000+/-.

But still this is a good numbers if they hit that numbers as we are still in the pandemic era and maybe there are people are still not willing to pay that steep price.

Exactly, that fight of Canelo vs Plant is a historic fight, so that's expected to gather the crowd, so maybe we will lower the estimate on this fight, I'm even doubtful if they'll reach 500k subs since Crawford is not really sell huge PPV views in his past fights.

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November 12, 2021, 11:45:36 AM
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^^ Not sure if they can reach at least 1 million PPV buys though. The Alvarez vs Plant peaked around 800,000 million buys.

So I would say that maybe the max of this fight can reach is around 500,000+/-.

But still this is a good numbers if they hit that numbers as we are still in the pandemic era and maybe there are people are still not willing to pay that steep price.

Exactly, that fight of Canelo vs Plant is a historic fight, so that's expected to gather the crowd, so maybe we will lower the estimate on this fight, I'm even doubtful if they'll reach 500k subs since Crawford is not really sell huge PPV views in his past fights.
This is the problem if the fight is near to the one popular event , the chances of gaining views and bets are lowering because the recent will surely took the place.
and also the popularity of these boxers are not that High in terms of fans and support , also there are some great fights to come after November and like me i would rather Bet on those than this one.

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November 12, 2021, 01:26:24 PM
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^^ Not sure if they can reach at least 1 million PPV buys though. The Alvarez vs Plant peaked around 800,000 million buys.

So I would say that maybe the max of this fight can reach is around 500,000+/-.

But still this is a good numbers if they hit that numbers as we are still in the pandemic era and maybe there are people are still not willing to pay that steep price.

Exactly, that fight of Canelo vs Plant is a historic fight, so that's expected to gather the crowd, so maybe we will lower the estimate on this fight, I'm even doubtful if they'll reach 500k subs since Crawford is not really sell huge PPV views in his past fights.
This is the problem if the fight is near to the one popular event , the chances of gaining views and bets are lowering because the recent will surely took the place.
and also the popularity of these boxers are not that High in terms of fans and support , also there are some great fights to come after November and like me i would rather Bet on those than this one.

There's no problem with bettors as they'll put their money once they are interested on the fight and if they believe they can predict the winner correctly. We are talking about the PPV sales which I agree with you that this is less popular compared to the fight like Canelo vs Plant but I'm sure people will be also interested in this since this is a good fight and Crawford is gonna face a tougher opponent.

Bob is optimistic that this fight will get a good number of PPV.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/07/crawford-vs-porter-could-bring-in-strong-pay-per-view-numbers-says-bob-arum/

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I mean, look, Mayweather Promotions. They were jumping for joy after Gervonta Davis recently brought in 90,000 buys for his fight with Mario Barrios last June. If Crawford vs. Porter does 200,000 pay-per-view buys, they would be more than doubling Tank’s buys for the Barrios fight.

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November 12, 2021, 08:03:42 PM
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^I wouldn't say it's cheap, but it is manageable by all means and it could be affordable to anyone.

And it's good that Bob Arum took it a bit lower as compare to other high profile fights so that many can avail and watch it at their home and as you have said, with your families and buddies have bbq and beer and hope that we are going to witness a good fight between Crawford and Porter next weekend.


They needed to adjust since the economy was still affected by the pandemic, not cheap but practical. The fact that making it more affordable brings more sales for this fight, household can easily tune in after acquiring and enjoy watching it with the family, good timing for having some quality chat while waiting for the fight. Cheesy

For some who also involve with gambling, once their bet wins, they can extend and add more beers from the table. Roll Eyes

Expecting some good action and real gentlemen fight and not avoiding each other, it would be nice if KO take placed Tongue



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^I wouldn't say it's cheap, but it is manageable by all means and it could be affordable to anyone.

And it's good that Bob Arum took it a bit lower as compare to other high profile fights so that many can avail and watch it at their home and as you have said, with your families and buddies have bbq and beer and hope that we are going to witness a good fight between Crawford and Porter next weekend.


They needed to adjust since the economy was still affected by the pandemic, not cheap but practical. The fact that making it more affordable brings more sales for this fight, household can easily tune in after acquiring and enjoy watching it with the family, good timing for having some quality chat while waiting for the fight. Cheesy

For some who also involve with gambling, once their bet wins, they can extend and add more beers from the table. Roll Eyes

Expecting some good action and real gentlemen fight and not avoiding each other, it would be nice if KO take placed Tongue


It's affordable for western countries, besides, they only target the USA and Europe I believe, so that's already enough to bring in the profit and make this fight happen. Promoters are smart with dealing with this fight, they give a little purse so the fighters will agree to fight but they know they can also make bigger money from PPV compared to the gate entrance.

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November 12, 2021, 09:34:00 PM
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The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

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November 12, 2021, 09:46:59 PM
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The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

If based on the sales in his previous match, then we can say he is not a big star as other boxers are making more than he is making, maybe one of the reasons is because he does not have a big fight against popular boxers so the interest is low on his fights. Crawford probably demanded a big fight and he gets one now although in betting lines he is a heavy favorite Porter is a tough opponent to crack which I'm sure it will not be easy for Crawford to win.

If Crawford wins this fight, he should go for a bigger one, probably a unificication figght, maybe with Ugas.

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November 12, 2021, 10:24:24 PM
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The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

True, because he was really protected by Top Rank and become Arum's one cash cow. However, as much as Terrence is really good and one of the best for me, he really need to get out and fight PBC welterweight because there's where the money is and of course the being recognise now and maybe he will be a house hold name amongst boxing fans.

I think the price is fair, it can't get higher than Canelo fight, it should be lower and that's what Top Rank did here.

 
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November 13, 2021, 04:21:33 AM
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The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

You want stardom for Terence Crawford, however, you want him to fight only against Keith Thurman after building his name from a victory versus Porter hehehe. The next fight should certainly be versus Errol Spence. Crawford and Spence are the kings of boxing’s welterweight division.

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November 13, 2021, 05:03:29 AM
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The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

You want stardom for Terence Crawford, however, you want him to fight only against Keith Thurman after building his name from a victory versus Porter hehehe. The next fight should certainly be versus Errol Spence. Crawford and Spence are the kings of boxing’s welterweight division.

Perhaps we should take out Spence out of the equation for now. He is recovering from the eye operation, so for now the best welterweight could be Thurman, although he is not that active and it could back fire on him.

So if Terence Crawford wins here, he can't just call out Spence, and I'm definitely sure he will mention Thurman's name because in his previous interviews, he always believed that Keith is the best welterweight.

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November 13, 2021, 05:13:35 AM
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The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

If based on the sales in his previous match, then we can say he is not a big star as other boxers are making more than he is making, maybe one of the reasons is because he does not have a big fight against popular boxers so the interest is low on his fights. Crawford probably demanded a big fight and he gets one now although in betting lines he is a heavy favorite Porter is a tough opponent to crack which I'm sure it will not be easy for Crawford to win.

If Crawford wins this fight, he should go for a bigger one, probably a unificication figght, maybe with Ugas.

Good that you mentioned Ugas, because it seems that no one wanted to fight this guy because of style matchup. And we have seen what he has done against the legendary Manny Pacquiao.

Forget about Thurman, he seems to be contented with his semi retirement and being a boxing analyst for now. It will be a big test for Crawford to solve the style of Ugas if ever they are going to face in the future. And then maybe Thurman will get out of his semi retirement and fight the winner.

 
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November 13, 2021, 04:48:22 PM
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^I wouldn't say it's cheap, but it is manageable by all means and it could be affordable to anyone.

And it's good that Bob Arum took it a bit lower as compare to other high profile fights so that many can avail and watch it at their home and as you have said, with your families and buddies have bbq and beer and hope that we are going to witness a good fight between Crawford and Porter next weekend.


They needed to adjust since the economy was still affected by the pandemic, not cheap but practical. The fact that making it more affordable brings more sales for this fight, household can easily tune in after acquiring and enjoy watching it with the family, good timing for having some quality chat while waiting for the fight. Cheesy

For some who also involve with gambling, once their bet wins, they can extend and add more beers from the table. Roll Eyes

Expecting some good action and real gentlemen fight and not avoiding each other, it would be nice if KO take placed Tongue


It's affordable for western countries, besides, they only target the USA and Europe I believe, so that's already enough to bring in the profit and make this fight happen. Promoters are smart with dealing with this fight, they give a little purse so the fighters will agree to fight but they know they can also make bigger money from PPV compared to the gate entrance.

Indeed, the truth behind this adjustment. Promoters know that money will flow with PPV and even they will give way with entrance tickets.
there are always people who love to watch the fight in front of their tv sets together with their companies, they are happier watching together instead of bringing their money inside the live events.

Though not everyone, as there are still people who want to see things in actions and want to feel the presence of live fans.

Whatever it may be, promoters will still earn a decent amount after this fight. Roll Eyes

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November 13, 2021, 04:56:08 PM
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Good that you mentioned Ugas, because it seems that no one wanted to fight this guy because of style matchup. And we have seen what he has done against the legendary Manny Pacquiao.

We have seen that style against Pacquiao, he's now waiting for another good money fight after that win he deserves more cash now.

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Forget about Thurman, he seems to be contented with his semi retirement and being a boxing analyst for now. It will be a big test for Crawford to solve the style of Ugas if ever they are going to face in the future. And then maybe Thurman will get out of his semi retirement and fight the winner.

I think Thurman is enjoying his rest. He's been paid decently by doing his commentator role,

Good enough to sustain his life for now. We don't hear about any future plans. Maybe if the price is right, something that he and he's camp can't really resist.
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November 13, 2021, 05:19:38 PM
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The lower the PPV price the more people can afford to buy, hopefully, they'll be able to sell a good number of PPV so they'll be profitable in this fight. Porter vs Crawford is such a great fight, it will never be boring so it's good if we book a subscription and watch it together with our friends and family.

As to betting, that is always depending on what we think and on how this find will end up, of course with the fighter of your choice.

I'm maybe wrong but Terrence Crawford is not yet a big star in boxing these days that may be the reason why Top Rank decided to make the PPV price a little bit cheaper to attract hardcore boxing fans to buy. The target market for this PPV will be the US and I don't it will reach 500K buys as Crawford is not yet a draw, hope Bob will realize that and let Terrence fight whom he feels could bring him to stardom.

This Porter fight maybe the start, hope if he wins this one he will fight Thurman next.

You want stardom for Terence Crawford, however, you want him to fight only against Keith Thurman after building his name from a victory versus Porter hehehe. The next fight should certainly be versus Errol Spence. Crawford and Spence are the kings of boxing’s welterweight division.
I agree with what you said, Spence is a pretty good opponent for the next fight because indeed they are very comparable now and could even be a decent match when this can happen.
on the other hand Keith Thurman is good but you could say Crawford is now having the upper hand after winning over Porter some time ago. and this will only have a slightly different effect when he is faced with spence.

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November 13, 2021, 07:57:02 PM
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I agree with what you said, Spence is a pretty good opponent for the next fight because indeed they are very comparable now and could even be a decent match when this can happen.
We probably need to hear from Spence camp first if he can already fight, he underwent an operation on his eye so most likely it requires a certain time to get healed, or worst if he can't fight anymore because of his delicate operation.

on the other hand Keith Thurman is good but you could say Crawford is now having the upper hand after winning over Porter some time ago. and this will only have a slightly different effect when he is faced with spence.
I guess I like to see Keith Thurman in the ring again, fighting with Crawford, this would be a great fight and I'll gladly put a bet on the underdog which is obviously Thurman.

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