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These are the people who have the most good reports over the last year:

Thank you to all reporters, especially the top reporters actmyname, Ratimov, and eaLiTy! We couldn't do it without you.

Wow, this is to say the least surprising. I haven't been really active the last couple of months and I'd have expected many more people to be ahead of my reporting habits...

Thanks for bringing the data and I can only say I feel honored to be among those top reporters

PS: Happy reporting to everyone!

Sweet--thank you to Theymos for publishing this data.  I kind of made a feeble plea in one of my recent posts, but I didn't expect any stats to be released.  And as I expected, I'm not on the list; my reporting rate has gone down significantly since the inception of the merit system.  Before that, I think I was in the top 20 reporters for whatever time frame was reported.

Congrats to the top reporters!  Too bad there hasn't been a "top reporter" badge created yet.  Even Theymos thinks it's important to the forum, so why not give at least the top 5-10 members a little something for their effort?

Those first few have some crazy number of reports, keep it up!

Considering how less active I have been for the last 4-5 months months I must say that I am surprised that i ended up being in top 10. Then again, it means that not many people are bothering with that anymore which is not a surprise as reporting is usually a thankless job.

As @The Pharmacist said, maybe its time for some badges as that would certainly boost the future numbers.

It would be interesting to be able to see the stats from the other side of the report TX: Something along the line of the number of reports per board (at least the main ones), and even perhaps by the rank of the reported related account (although the rank may well change over the one year period being analysed).

The above would provide an overview of where the reports take place, and a rough idea of the reported ranks.

Note: Ideally we’d add an overview by reason (i.e plagiarism, low value, etc.), but since reasons are not typified, I figure the latter would not be feasible.

Damn, an actual scammer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5346689.msg57349607#msg57349607) has been cleaning up the forum undercover! Its kind of a Batman-type situation, except instead of being a billionaire playboy he's a scammer. The reports are probably for excessive bumps and whatever posted by the competition.

For my part, I would like to say thank you to the moderators, who process our reports very quickly. This is a massive job, as I see that everything is checked quite seriously, and only after that do we get our "good"
It is always pleasant to work in a well-coordinated team when you understand that you are not doing something in vain. :)

I’m glad I helped with my contribution, although I can see how little it really is compared to those at the top, really impressive - three members with a total of 85 699 good reported posts. It’s a really big contribution to the forum if we consider that we all do it without any other motivation other than to make the forum a better place for all members.

Congratulations to all, and an invitation to all others to join in the fight against those who violate the rules of the forum.

actmyname and Ratimov, you both really had a lot of reports. I could only dream of having such a lot of reports.

It would be good to have the report statistics data public. We could learn more about who is actively reporting and it could be good to know for local local board specially. Specially I would like to know who is reporting the most on our local Bengali thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631891.0)  :D

Come on theymos, you did it. Thanks for publishing the top reporter list of the last year's. No doubt this post will encourage more forum users to report actively. And thanks to all of you who are helping the forum to keep clean by reporting spam. Though at the beginning I tried to report as much as possible, but the number becomes less due to busy in real life. But sure, still reporting if found spam in front of me though can't search for spam now. I am pretty sure more users will work hard to add their names to the list. Expecting a similar list every year or month.

Shout out to everyone who contributed to the forum and i never expected to be in any list :-*. Keep rocking  8).

I usually report the local boards and cleaned almost all of them and there is no ambiguity in choosing the local boards ;).

We had one ^{[all time reports]} in both "2016 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1532365.msg15429237#msg15429237) ^{[top 50]}" and "2017 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2166379.msg21740582#msg21740582) ^{[top 50]}". Despite not being that active in the past year or two, it'd be really nice to see such stats again.
^{- Something along the lines of the "Merit stats (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats)" page, would probably result in more users becoming active in that department.}

You won't have many good reports if you only dream, but act so that you too can be on that list next year.

So far, actmyname, Ratimov and eaLiTy has been very active in eradicating spam posts so that it deserves to be at the top of the standings in the last year. Perhaps a thank you is not enough to appreciate the good reports so far, and it seems I also hope that something can be given to them like badge as was given to of the winners of the art contest. In this I agree with the The Pharmacist. By the way, congrats to all of you on that list even though not all of you really wanted to. ;v

Wow thanks for publishing the List theymos and also from me a big thanks to all of the reporters even you are not on the list !
I dont know if its possible but maybe theymos you can make the list for 2018 , 2019 and 2020 also then we have the List for the last 5 years.
I know that its only for statistic but would be nice to see the other years also from the last years.
So i guess the reporting bots are not counting as it looks like .

If the text of reports were made public, or if the text of reports was given to a select group of people to prepare a report, or if the text was tokenized and made public, it should not be difficult to classify each report.

If particular rules could be cited by moderators when taking moderation actions, this information could potentially be used to make improvements to the forum.

According to my personal statistics, I have 446 good reports, but I can't tell how much of that is from the past year. I guess I only need a couple more to break into the 'top reporters' list. So close...
In any case, congratulations to the TOP reporters and everyone else who contributes to the fight against spammers. Your work makes this place bearable.  ;D

I have 578 and still didn't made it to the list  ;D
Maybe some clearer stats will come at some point and based on them some badges too? (One can hope).

However, congrats to those from the list. Those numbers are hugely impressive!

All of the top reporters deserve this recognition in terms of making the forum clean. I do hope a lot more people can get on this list, including me. Lol. Anyway, I think people should consider reading guides on reporting and help out a lot more with reporting.

An average of 105 posts per day reported if you were to consider top#1. That's so awesome.

Nice job guys, and congrats on your achievments all.

@theymos, does that mean the reporter badges (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4742257.0) will be activated soon and they will get it?

I just want to say thanks for all active reporters. You're helping to turn forum into better place. And your role is huge! It's difficult to imagine how forum would look without you.
But Top 3 reporters, how it's possible? You can't be human, it should be some kind of AI :D.
And I must admit that I'm not active reporter. I can't brag about thousands reports made, but at least my report accuracy is 100% :)

Wow - never thought that I reported that much to be honest ! Proud to be on the list nevertheless.
Personally I just do 2-3 reports in the morning over a couple of cups of tea.  I’m not a prolific poster, more of a reader and generally ill find something to report as spam, advertising, duplicate posts or just general nonsense  :)
Congrats to everyone on the list and hopefully it may encourage a few more members to do some reporting.

Those top three reporters are something else though - that is IMPRESSIVE!!!

Nice to some some individuals who are volunteering doing some selfless service to the forum getting recognized. Theymos, will this thread be updated yearly, I wish it'll so it can serve as a motivation for more users to engage in this act. We need more reporters, sadly previous years reports weren't counted, I'm sure we would had seen some popular names that haven't been that active for a while now in the reporting business.

Thank you to everyone reporting, that you weren't included doesn't mean you're not been appreciated, just keep reporting and you might just make it to the next list, don't make that a priorities though instead report because you want the keep the forum clean.

Woah, wasn't expecting my name to be on the list! Thank you so much for the small mention @theymos! I've only started being more active this year, but I'm still glad I made it to the list. I'm also happy to know that we are not alone, great work!
But damn actmyname, Ravimov and eaLiTy you guys are on fire! Congrats! Do you use some tool to help you with reports? Recently I've been using this hack[1] from suchmoon (great work!) but I was wondering if you guys use others that are also helpful - besides being All Watchers within our community :)

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[1]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103488 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103488)

I lost a little bit of gusto on my reports when it became clear most of them weren’t being handled and it appeared as though the promised reporter badge would never materialize. Would be cool to see some %’s next to those reports. On that note, any idea if those reporter badges fell into the same black hole as the 10-year anniversary coins?

Sweet!
Surprised to see I made the list at #24  :o as I'm not exactly hunting down crap or wrongly located posts to report. Just diligent about reporting them when spotted...

This is from august 2012 to sept 2021 .  I did not do much first year or 2. Then  close to 100 a year from 2014 til now

"You have reported 732 posts with 99% accuracy (712 good, 12 bad, 8 unhandled). Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports."

you could do a volunteer thread. it would get some people to answer maybe you could grab stats for a few hundred vs top 40

it would be lifetime as I think that is what is available to us as non staff.

Thank you for revealing our informers to us  :D ;D Joking aside, we owe a big thank you to our friends who try so hard to keep the forum clean by this way. It's really unbelievable sending 30K reports omg  :o I think we have to cover their eye doctor bills  :) :)

I didn't mean to offend, I wonder why is there the staff on the list? Isn't that their job?

Usually in forums different "staff" members have different levels of "power". For example the moderator of a certain board (like a local board) may not have any power in any other board (like the speculation board). So they have to report posts in other places just like anyone else.

Their job is to act on reports in the boards they are designated to, not to report in other boards.
For context, patrollers, can act on newbie accounts,
• Staffs, are limited to a specific board and only have moderator status in that board,
• Global mods can act anywhere on the forum, same with admins (although, all the ranks have different specifications of action).

Now if I'm a staff member, designated to the Bitcoin discussion board, I am not obligated to report posts outside my board, and those that do should be recognized, as it's an unpaid contribution.

The police can only act and arrest, punish and imprison, that's the main point.

Based on intelligence reports and the public, law enforcement can act, make decisions and punish those who do wrong, based on the level of their respective mistakes, you should know about that.

Staff, mods, admins, have other tasks to work on based on reports, they don't have time to check every post/topic and every board.

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For that you have to thank those on the list of the best reports of the year, they always keep the Bitcointalk Forum clean of spam, scams etc, without having to pay a penny in return.

I really want to thank all these people who, through their own unpaid work and in their free time, try to clean this forum from spam.
I would also like to thank theymos for deciding to share this information publicly so that the most deserving members can receive the well-deserved recognition of the whole community.
For over 20 years I have been registered on a lot of different internet forums and on each one the main problems were spam and trolling.
Whenever forum administrators lost the battle with spam, the forum would die and members would leave it.
So really a big thank you to all the members but also to the administrators and moderators of the forum who have been fighting spam for more than 10 years and who keep this forum as clean as possible.

Something similar here. Priority numbers from [P1] (highest) to [P4] (lowest), ranging from malware to consecutive bumps apropos to matter of intensity, with fixed comments from a set.

Fully-automated reporting seldom works except in the case of malware/spam/advert links, though I have found success with modifying the script (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103488) with a few loops and additions. Staff will know that I commonly submit pages at a time: it's just far more efficient this way, though if the throttle limit were shorter than 4 seconds, that would make things far easier.

I could have handled a couple thousand hand-reports for the Altcoin sections, but before long I would need an assisting tool or I'd go insane from the absolute incoherence.

These two comments probably outline 98%+ of my reports:

• Generic, vague, repetitive, padded, and/or irrelevant post. Brings no new information. Zero value. User does not contribute: check post history.
• Useless one/two-liners. User does not contribute: check post history.

You should also be able to automate successive posts, excessive bumps, and bumping a thread without deleting the previous post.

I am currently considering how to best enforce the above rules, and if it is possible to enforce additional rules via automation.

Some modern forums have an auto-merge feature, where your newer replies are merged into the prior if it is a consecutive post.

As for excessive bumps, that's more of a threshold issue: unless you have a rigorous idea of the borders, it would probably be better left to a case-by-case solution. I'm not certain about the volume of bot bumping activity, but since we haven't expanded the bump limit/feature to more boards, it seems like it's contained for now. Also consider the additional friction of updating your values/restrictions after the fact: one could imagine workarounds like alt accounts (to bypass account-based throttles), dynamic word length, and other 'borderline bumping' workarounds.

Are we getting prepared for the badges?? :) Sadly the last year wasn't so good for me and my presence in the forum was so little I didn't even end up on the bottom of the list. Hope this changes soon. 

The bump issue is easy -- you simply monitor new posts, and if someone makes a new post at "x" time, subsequently makes an additional post a "y" time, if "y" time is <24 hours after "x" time AND there were no posts made by other users in the thread in question between the post in question, then an excessive bump was made.

The bumping threads without deleting old bumps is also easy -- you monitor threads, if a thread has their last two posts (or more) that was written by the OP of a thread, AND there is at least one post that needs to be removed due to duplicate bumps/consecutive posts made. This logic could even be extended to posts not made by the OP of a thread.

Using alt accounts to bump threads would bypass initial logic, but someone monitoring closely should be able to detect this, and report accordingly.

I don't know how many mods there are on the forum (I'm sure I could figure it out, but I'm too lazy for the purpose of this post), but given how many sections there are and how many posts get made in each of them every single day, there's no way in hell they'd be able to detect spam, zero-value, trolling, or off-topic posts; make judgements on those posts; and then take action if it weren't for members reporting posts like that. 

On other, smaller forums, things might work differently--but bitcointalk has many thousands of active accounts and well over a million registered ones, active or inactive.  Theymos would have to hire a small country of moderators if he expected them to sift through threads looking for rule violations, and he's not about to do that.

I don't believe that for a minute--even though I'm not a coder.  If those gold coins can be put under every member's rank, I seriously doubt Theymos (who is very intelligent and has a lot of resources) wouldn't be able to give members some sort of badge.  Plus he did exactly that for the forum anniversary art contest winner if I'm not mistaken.

If I'm not wrong, for the art contest badges, he put them on manually. He can do it occasionally for a particular event, but I can't see Theymos doing it on a regular basis (unless he appoints a "badge giver", like he did for the "whitelisters").
Gold coins under our pseudos is an easily configurable feature of SMF. I think I have read (maybe in the Staff section) that Theymos reworked the reports page, so that's probably why it's not as easy to put those reporters badges and may require a lot of coding effort.

It's not a bad idea if it doesn't require too much work and can be easily applied, but it might even be easier to add custom text to the profile "Top Reporter of 2020", as is the case with those who have a VIP, Donator or Copper Member title below the name. Perhaps this recognition could be transitional and awarded each year to those on the list of top reporters.

Wasn't the merit system designed and hand-coded by theymos from scratch, including complicated background functionality? I'm sure the badges for the top reporters would be much easier to make.
There is a good chance that Theymos will consider this feature if the community shows enough interest. Or maybe it will be included in bitcointalk 2.0 release.

Its different because the art contest winner badge displays whether the user wanted it to or not. There was an art contest for reporter badge design 2.5 years ago, so that part has already been taken care of at least.

Here's what I was talking about:

Wow, really did not expect to see my name in the top 10. Figured there would be a lot more people above me.

I figure when I have a day like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5058163.msg55954810#msg55954810 that there are a lot more people reporting a lot more stuff out there.

Big thank you to the mods who have to read all the reports and act on them.


That and probably reporting marginal posts by people who tagged him as a scammer.

-Dave

Surprised to see myself there, but sometime back when Ratimov revealed the numbers, I was like bruh, that's a shitton! Mods seeing his name on be like "Here we go again" ;D



Time to reignite the passion, haha.

The only time I managed to get this far was due to the tidal wave of malspam https://cdnv1.csgo500.com/emotes/risitas.png



Coming soon just like Bitcointalk V2 https://cdnv1.csgo500.com/emotes/sadcat.png

What about the users who don't want to have their activity exposed? Have you thought about it?

I know I can't really say, it's personal, but it is a bit to me. It's part of my privacy
Without debating on the social side it can have, because it's something else and I'm not concerned, but someone else can be

You won't be able to work as a cop. Imagine, you snitch everybody who snitched  :D

no hard feelings

A round of applause for the top reporters. Posts that should be deleted as it doesn't pass the requirements of being a high quality post won't always be found as there are lots of forum users then here comes our reporters finding such posts. I thought those forum users I have read that report the posts would be in thay list but only see few. I think there will be a new contest which is to create a reporter badge.

Amazing numbers!
LeGaulois who is at the bottom of the list has 3 more good reports in the last year alone than I have overall. All I can say is congratulations to everyone who made it. I certainly can't commit to doing what you do in keeping the forum clean on a regular basis. The administration is lucky to have you onboard. 

That question has been asked before about reporter's badges if I’m not mistaken, and I accept that everyone has a right to their privacy, even if they don’t want to be publicly known to be doing something good. I guess anyone who has such an opinion could contact the admin and ask that he not be exposed in public.

For me, this is not a problem, and I do not consider it a violation of privacy (like most other members of the forum) - nor do I expect that someone could take revenge on me for reporting his bad posts since only mods/admins can see such a link.

This is to say, every work you're doing to keep the forum going is been recognized in one way or the other.
It's awesome seeing the top reporters that have given all their best to fish out the bad seeds in this forum.
Their deeds are so remarkable.
Shout out to everyone that has been reporting in one way or the other, keep it up

You're probably not wrong at all, and my point is that Theymos did indeed give someone a badge, so it can be done again.  I wouldn't expect that he'd have to give different badges to however many reporters he wanted to give reporter badges to, so it isn't as though he'd have to create more than one.  Nor would he have to hand out more than, say, 10 (for the top 10 reporters of all-time, which is who I think they ought to be given out to).  How much extra work could that possibly be?  I don't think it's a matter of work or coding; I think it's a matter of will.

I'd say PM Theymos about that if you're concerned about your anonymity.  I'm pretty sure he'd respect that.

OK, I had misunderstood your last post. I agree, it should be possible to give a badge to 1/5/10/X people (for those who want) for the best reporters of a year.
In my last post, I was referring to the original idea of the badge reporter: getting a badge after X good reports. I can't see Theymos doing it manually :)

He could delegate the final approval of badges to mods who handle those reports anyway and know if the 5000 reports were useful or some fluff to pad the stats. Yeah, I know it's not decentralized and whatnot but still would be better than nothing IMO. And mods could ask the user before approving a badge so that would take care of privacy concerns.

I'm absolutely sure that if anyone wanted to continue reporting, but didn't want to be included in these statistics from time to time they could send theymos a message. It was be relatively easy to omit certain users with a generic placeholder without losing the usefulness of the data, especially considering this isn't something which is done frequently.

I guess it depends on how it's currently implemented. If it's pretty complex to code around at the moment, it might mean that allowing certain staff to manually add badges could potentially cause issues, and that could be unpredictable due to the nature. It's probably better, and would save less headaches if theymos did it themselves or going the automatic route, since they know the way around the code.

I just noticed this topic and I'd like to say that it's a great honor for me, to see me included in the top reporters group from last year. To be honest, I even forgot how many reports I made last year ( :) ) therefore it was a very nice surprise to see me there, in the upper part of the list. I remember though that I spent a while to make all those reports, which I made manually, with no intervention of a script of some sort.

I am glad that I could help the forum with my contribution and I'd like to congratulate all the others which helped in their own ways. Only working as many of as as possible we can keep this forum clean. Besides these, I have to say that I almost can't believe my eyes seeing users which made more than 30.000 reports in a year. I take off my hat in front of such performance!

If their accuracy has been good, why have these top reporters not been made moderators, or offered such a position? The clearest test of a good moderator is a user with good judgement, much less their activity.
If these users were assigned as mods in their most popular sections (based on their stats), it would save a lot of global mod work not having to deal with these reports. Just saying.


Delegation is the direction of decentralization, even if it's not idealistic decentralization, it's a step in the right direction. Delegation not deliberation 💪


There's nothing unpredictable about special membership groups. You grant trusted mods access to membership groups, they then add/remove users from such groups (which shows in admin logs).  Not sure why this is considered complex to code, membership groups with badges is a very basic part of modern forum software. It'd only be complex to code if the software is archaic. Otherwise it's just easy button clicking.

If as an admin you can't trust your global mods, you can't trust anyone  :-\

Your privacy isn't something that the forum worries about.  You have to remember you're the product here, not the customer.  Your activity will be displayed in the way that will most benefit the forum, not you.  Not the way I think it should be, but any other answer would just be wrong.  People can even go as far as to dox you and make up stories to try and have you targeted by police agencies or vigilantes without any recourse.  It's sad, but it all comes back to us being the product and not the customer.  There was once a time when that wasn't the case, but those days are long gone.

Holy shit!
Some of you managed to report 38580 or 33267! Do you guys ever log out from your account?

It's hard to take but it's true. But I am happy that I am helping the community to bring more people in the bitcoin space.

Come on man! don't hide yourself. What are you scared of? Topics from spammers against you on reputation board.

Only noticed this thread today and completely surprised to be so high in the list. I do take some pride in my 99% accuracy rating (with almost all of the 1% being due to double reporting......  8) ), as it confirms my "firm but fair" policy. :)


Bringing this gang of 13 shitposters (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5326754.msg56657130#msg56657130) down was great. They haven't been back since June.


Also, the fact that I'm openly pointing fingers to certain campaigns (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088858.msg57736126#msg57736126) packed with shitposters, has made me receive plenty of fan mail by PM, from people who explain to me in colorful terms several things they'd like to do to me and to my mother. Such nice people. 8)


Some extra help in the non-English threads might be welcome. I'm quite sure they're full of shitposters but it's difficult to prove if you don't speak their language.

Further on: let's keep it up.

I hope you use the report to admin option in the same effective way as the report to moderator. Some forum members live in the delusion that they can send PM with any content and that it will not have any consequences.

As for the shitposters, unfortunately, if we removed them all from the signature campaigns, there would be a lot of empty spaces left, which is not realistic to expect. So the only option is to report their posts and hope that at least some of them will try to change for the better.

Lucius, This is best hope when we try to report spammer action to moderators so that our time is not wasted. Some of them may be aware, but maybe not. Things are starting to change with some of the posters I've been reporting on, and they're posting less frequently on the boards I frequent ^{[altcoin discussions].}

I have 900 good reports at the moment, if any 1, 2, 3 of them change their posting pattern for the better then that is a success in itself for me. The thing is, have any of you ever reviewed the post history of the users you reported before? If they start to change, will you thank them for it?

More slots for quality users is a good thing. Don't let them being in a signature campaign stop you from reporting them if they're breaking the rules. Unfortunately, the most problematic ones are run by campaign managers that couldn't care less, since they're usually paying in some worthless token of theirs, so they just replace the bad quality posters, with the well...the same.  

Absolutely. Some users change for the better, some adapt trying to avoid punishment by trying to disguise it, or some just couldn't care less about getting their posts deleted. However, there are definitely a select few who improve their post quality, and become decent users of the forum. They're just drowned out by the mass amounts that don't.

I'll always have respect for someone who can change their ways, after all mistakes aren't bad when you correct them.

Looks like I'm not alone here. I try to remain objective with each user whose posts I report to the moderators to detect whether or not they are willing to change spam behavior.

So far I haven't found any of them aware of it and they started trying to avoid reports by posting on board that I rarely report on. It was a stupid act I got from them, obviously it's just because they weren't able to achieve good post quality. Obviously I reported that to the manager who hired these people, but apparently that wasn't enough.

I also detected some abuse and other rule violators such as merit abuse and possible account being sold and bounty abuse. While I didn't report it to the moderators because I think it would be very effective to do it in a thread so that other DT members can take quick action.

There’s no need to check someone’s post history for that, it’s enough that I’m active almost every day on the forum and can see if someone has changed their approach or continues to do the same things as before. Most, however, do not react to the fact that their posts are deleted on a daily basis and there is a greater chance that they will be banned rather than try to get better.

I don't know if you mean private or public thanks, but I think both are completely unnecessary - although I've never been able to say anything like that to anyone, no one has changed from a bad to a good member, at least not those who came under my radar.

Why thank those who allegedly corrected themselves, but, on the contrary, these people should thank those who contributed to their correction?
I mean, we don't have to give thanks for doing good things, which is a natural behavior for most other people.
At a time when reports are often sent to the moderators, the nicknames of the users become recognizable, and I also noticed that some users have changed their behavior, but often they only change after some ban assigned to them by the moderator.

Indeed I used report to admin and it did not have any (visible) consequences. :)

In that case, the admins did not conclude that it was something that was punishable, although I understood from your post that it could be a death threat to you and your family. As far as I know, such things are punished with a permanent ban, although it all depends on how someone interprets such threats.

Unfortunately, everyone who does a lot of reports accepts the risk that they themselves will become targets of attacks on a personal level. Luckily I see that such things have not affected you too much and that you will make even more effort to thank all these spammers for their kind words ;)

Indeed. 8) The messages did not contain death threats, only sexually explicit stuff. So in a way, I was rather disappointed it was only a threat.

Jokes aside, the best way of getting these guys out is by taking a list of participants of a random signature campaign and checking their history one by one. Report the shitposters until they give up. The only way of getting them to realize their behavior is unacceptable, is by hitting them where it hurts: in their wallet. In general, they will leave the forum, because being a part of this community or trying to learn more about crypto is absolutely not what they are here for.

FYI I have nothing against signature campaigns. Only against shitposters.

friends1980 spoke a great truth here and he does a great job in cleaning campaigns out of shit posters and, as a consequence, the forum as a whole. Furthermore, he does also a great job in observing members trying to outsmart campaign rules or campaign managers. I remember we had a strong collaboration at some point regarding several users of Bitvest and 777Coin campaign where, at that time, several members were doing both of the above mentioned offenses. I, on my part, made a thorough analysis at that time for both campaigns back then ([1] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088858.msg54688665#msg54688665), [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088856.msg54690210#msg54690210)), highlighting many users trying to cheat the rules. Some took it personally, but truth was undeniable. Some left, as friends1980 mentioned above; some were excluded; some tried to improve their posting habit -- which was a great turnover.


This is sad, yet true... We can't avoid it, unfortunately...

- BitcoinGirl.Club: hello the police station,  the person abcd living 1234 avenue is a drug dealer with 100kg of cocaine Here are the proofs
The police station: ok thank you

a few days later...

- The police station: hello Mr abcd, we have enough proof about you as a drug dealer, we seized 100kg of cocaine in your house.
- Mr abcd: who snitched?
- The police station: well, BitcoinGirl.Club. the person living at 456 boulevard

- BitcoinGirl.Club: hey why did you give my name, are you crazy?
- The police station: Come on man! don't hide yourself. What are you scared of? drug dealers waiting for you at home


If it's not something important to you, no problem, but accept some people care about things they prefer to stay private.
I could post all your PM in public and tell you the same thing you said.

I"m far to be impressed by a spammer making stupid drama on the reputation board. I got nastier by pm over the yearS.


By the way, I got the solution, it was simple.
Sad for the forum, not for me

Yeah, probably. Though, I never really had anyone voice their concerns about it when I was very public about the amount I reported. Though, I guess it definitely gives certain users more ammo. theymos doesn't really release the information that often, however I imagine if you requested for your data not to be released when he does do it, I'm sure it wouldn't be much of a problem to omit it from the results.

Though, I do think most users worth listening too understand the importance of reporters.

Anyone who reports a post is simply bringing very public information to the attention of the moderation team. It is a very common response by the mods to a complaint about a moderator action is that multiple people reported a post or a thread for breaking the rules.

I would not personally be worried about any retaliation for reporting a post. I have in the past publicly reported spammers and without any kind of retaliation. (I have experienced retaliation when some people were called out as a scammer, even when PN7 made no such assertion).

Reporting is sufficient by just making use of the report button at the inferior lateral part of each users' posts, so retaliation is not possible. Only what can occur which is rear to occur are the people that will complain of their many posts that was deleted at once, asking why on Meta board. Such people do not even know their posts are reported.

Any updates @theymos for this year ?  :)

Maybe the admin just forgot to publish the statistics for last year, but maybe he also took into account that some members don't want their contribution to the forum to be publicly displayed. Personally, I don't see any threat to privacy or anything like that for anyone whose name appears on the list, but everyone has their own reasons for finding something inappropriate.

There's less to report :)
In 2018 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032314.0), I counted 353,813 posts per week. Now (https://loyce.club/active/7d.html), we're at 41,217 posts per week. That's a 88.35% reduction. The Merit system stopped the spam caused by large-scale account farming.

No thanks :D I stay away from the spam-boards.

Yep. I've accepted that not all places on the internet are nice. As long as they stay on certain boards, I don't have to see their posts.

If you only look at everything from a financial perspective (or I didn't get a badge, so I won't take part in it anymore), then it makes sense for you and others like you - but I personally do not think that users of this forum should be encouraged in any way when it comes to cleaning the forum in the background. Maybe that's the catch, because if that work was motivated in any way, I'm sure some members would abuse it.

For those who are active on the forum, who care about the forum, and who want to contribute in this way, stimulus or some kind of development is not needed. Report or not, it's a matter of personal choice.

For me, this forum is certainly not about money, but you have shown many times that only money or prizes motivate you to do good work for the forum. Calling a member who hasn't spent a single satoshi from the CM campaign over the years as some kind of man who is all about money is stupid to say the least.

Go carve a pumpkin or whatever is already on the menu these days, I hear they are giving away valuable prizes ;)

The moment there will be a financial catch or a reputational catch for this kind of work which should be volunteered of course who loves the place and honest interest to do it, you will see many users are starting to race with each others. In the reputation board you will see there are many topics regarding reporting that my report was not handled, his report was handled, mod - you are favoring selective people. Like these you will see many more drama.

I will guarantee - let the signature space be disabled and be disappeared all these signature and avatar campaign. The number of people who are showing they care for the community with their life, keeps reminding all the time what they are doing for the community - will be reduced to some unexpected percent that we can not even imagine it. I would not surprise if over 90% of these users will just disappear for good.

Luckily, only you and one other person on this forum have ever stooped to the level of insulting me on some sort of personal level by suggesting some kind of illness and pills - but I think you might need pills and people in white wards a lot sooner than I do ;)


You are the last person on the forum who should share advice on what someone will do with their money or signature, and if one day signatures become prohibited, people like you will disappear with the speed of lightning. I don't have to go to reputation to express my opinion, I wrote everything I have to you here and in some other threads - it's a shame that I didn't put you on ignore a long time ago, but at least it's easy to do. Get out of my way, and I'll get out of yours - I think that's a fair proposition.

It's so damn hard to pick up on sarcasm here, it drives me nuts sometimes.  Not sure if there was a misunderstanding or not, but I think Lucius was commenting on doing things like reporting shitposts and everything else to the mods without being paid for it, and I didn't detect any need on his part for a financial incentive to do so--just that members ought to be doing that stuff if they really care about the forum.

Sort of like being a good merit source, I'd imagine.  Nobody is getting paid to do that "job" and some merit sources didn't even ask Theymos for the position.  The ones who consistently distribute merit, just like the members who consistently report posts to the mods, are doing so because they're trying to keep bitcointalk running smoothly.

And I know Theymos is wildly inconsistent with his data dumping with respect to the top reporters, but I'd like to see the most recent data if he's got it (and I'm sure he does).  I wouldn't even be in the top 100, but being a top reporter is really an underappreciated title if you ask me.  They at least deserve a post mentioning their hard work once in a while, no?

I would like to see the data and i guess it will be just a few clicks for theymos to get it ( hopefully i am right on that ) .
If we dont get and see the statistics for the last year its not a big thing for me , because i dont reporting posts and spam for fame or a price.
Helping others so they dont get hacked from Malware or scammed by Users for reporting this things is enough for me to know it would safe someone.

Reporting certainly has dropped quite a bit, but has pointed out its a combination of things, including less posts these days. Most reports that I get are on posts that were made several years ago. So, we're sort of playing catch up from when the forum was at its height.

There's still a ton of cleaning up to do though. I guess the reporting statistics won't change all that much either, since with the reduction in reporting, there isn't going to be that big of a difference between the figures.

Hilariousandco has set up another thread showing just how many reports happen every period, so people will an idea of how much its actually dropped in the past few months.

I was tired reporting undeleted bump there until last year.

Now, there is a board must the reporter focus is Beginners & Help.

Every board that doesn't have a DEDICATED AND ACTIVE mod (preferably one who applies rules consistently) should have signatures disabled. That would leave mostly just the bounty shit unattended, which no one really cares about anyway. And an occasional merit whore in WO.

All this nonsense in Bitcoin Discussion and elsewhere is just a massive waste of reporters' time and a disgrace to the forum. Nothing ever gets done and no one seems to want to moderate it so remove the incentive to spam.

Could be wrong but I think in general it's not gotten better, but the spammers have moved to places that a lot of us don't see because we don't frequent those sections.

I also think the reporting 'bots' that Mitchell and others are getting better. As they add more terms to them a lot of the things that may have been up for a longer that would have gotten reported and taken down are now removed before many people even see them.

Add in the fact that many of the older accounts that were popping back up to spam have been nuked / banned it is a bit better here.

-Dave

While this is probably true, the biggest contribution to less reports, and less spam is due to the amount of posts we're getting these days. If you look back when Bitcoin was at its highest, you'll find there was a lot more posts, and therefore a lot more spam along with it.

There's definitely a correlation between the two so it's not surprising there's been a drop off in reporters. There are likely other reasons, including old reporters getting tired of not seeing an improvement, even though their reports are greatly missed by the community.

Though, the bumping changes in the altcoin section, helped a lot, and so did the merit system.

Hi theymos.
Can we get Top reporters statistics for 2023?

It’s just another nice piece of data that just might motivate just anyone and everyone to be on the look out for posts that might be in some way unfit would find it’s way to the moderators desk. It’s a nice one actually, really.

This data just shows what tons of work the moderators are been subjected to and how much they’ve got to read and not just the report but, maybe the OP, few comments and come to some judgement on how to treat the report and somehow, they’ve managed it great and timely too. So yeah, I tip my hat to them and the lots of users that do their bit in ensuring quality contents on the forum.

In addition to this request, I would also like to ask theymos if he can publish the statistics for 2021 and 2022. Since OP was created, no other update was provided, thus statistics for all years since 2020 would be useful to see...

 
Little bumpski  :)

Nothing like a bit of motivation for long time reporters and newbies !!

Motivations have changed over time - but maybe, we tend to have a harder time finding bad posters when we ignore megathreads more often. I sent a lot of reports to moderators throughout 2023 - but my motivation dropped a bit in early 2024. I don't often dive too deep into megathread these days anyway, so that probably kept me or some other reporters from coming across bad posts.

Of course - as time goes by, my motivation will come back and find more bad posts to report, but this will probably become less common as more users start to change their posting patterns and improve the quality of their posts. Their motivation is about - getting lots of merit and joining the signature campaign.

Maybe I believe theymos is working underway to get the best reporter so far,  but we must also consider as time goes people has also advance and enhanced their ways of communication except for the newly registered individual and most of these newbies often stick within their local boards where they got proper orientation.

Typical example is my local board I have learned to see lot of people improving greatly and asking more about how to develop themselves to be creative and useful to the forum, so even though there would be reports from my LB it might be very little and let's consider if other board adopting same method there is every possibility to eliminate spam across the english board and local boards, _BlackStar is correct.

It's definitely not easy ( no sarcasms) to get some junk post reported - For the fact that I'm not as regular as the above mentioned, I think they deserve something...
was it really necessary to gaslight me? Yes...  Do I really care about it? Not at all... Afterall, your name says it all...

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AFAIK, making the ''Report to moderator" button a routine is a different ball game entirely. I'm startled by how much people could make accurate reports - as high as the numbers on code...

What the hell are you talking about?  "Report to moderator" is literally one click away... Whats so hard about that?

Motivations have changed over time - but maybe, we tend to have a harder time finding bad posters when we ignore megathreads more often.
[/quote]Yep--I lost my motivation almost completely after Theymos created the merit system, since that seemed to reduce the motivation for idiots to continue shitposting.  There was a time when I'd visit those spam megathreads and spend an hour or two just going through them and reporting all the nonsense, no-value crap to the mods.  Usually I'd pick up on some alt accounts, too.

Speaking of spam megathreads, it's really, really unfortunate that Bitcoin Discussion seems to still be one of the sections that hosts many of them (although I've un-ignored it recently).  I've said that a few times before over the years and it holds true to this day.  Bitcoin Discussion should be one of the best-kept sections here, and yet it's a haven for crap posters with little to say other than some words strung together, maybe with punctuation, maybe not.  Ah well.

And yeah, I'd like to see some data on the current top reporters.  Theymos gave us what, two reports in total?  I know it isn't top priority for him, but it'd be nice to acknowledge the members who help keep the forum clean and do it for free and with nearly no recognition.

The Skeptical Chymist - would you mind correcting your quote, something seems wrong.

Previously - I also had the same habit of trying to find bad posters. I've purposely taken the time to go page after page in a some thread only to find posts that have no value or are completely useless to report on - but as time goes by, that habit has become rare on my part.

I'm a little tired of it all because it feels like a responsibility - so I just report less often than before because I'm no longer digging for it in the trash pile. I still really want to do it with no strings attached - that's the contribution I can make to the forum even though my reporting accuracy percentage has dropped to 99%.

Something done behind the scenes will likely go unrecognized – even if they have spent countless hours contributing. I would also like to thank those who take the time to keep the forum clean - they are warriors.

If I remember correctly, Ratimov had really impressive statistics here, I think over 100k reports. I wonder how he handled the fact that he could not delete that type of forum contribution.
Or maybe he managed to restore all the posts deleted because of his report  ::)


I had a period where one of the three posts that I reported remained unhandled. And it is obvious spam. This had the greatest effect on my motivation because I had the impression that it was just a waste of time, both mine and the moderators.

If you go through first 2 pages of Bitcoin Discussion you will find less than 5 spam megathreads, meaning that's not the main problem there. Instead, much bigger problem (imho) are loads of low effort redundant shittopics and instead people reporting them for what they are, they rather use them to dump their signature quota. Then again, mods could just check that board once or twice per day and just nuke those kind of topics instead waiting to get reported, like its usually done in other forums.


If he could he would probably bring back all those reported posts, since he was really set on removing everything that he did around here.

I have already written before, but it is worth repeating, considering that some members think that such things are not a priority for the admin, maybe it is something completely different. Some members were not really thrilled with the idea of their report statistics being published publicly, and how to publish something that should be partially censored?

I personally have nothing against it, and it would be interesting to see who are those who still find some time to make the forum a better place for everyone else.

For sure it would be nice to see some statistics of the past years from 2021 and 2022.
There are so many that hit the " Report to Moderator " without notice them , but also there are also a lot that lets say to lazy for doing it.
I have seen in the last weeks there a few new Users have started reporting , i havnt stoped doing it so its now 6 years i report.
Its a Art to animate others.

(I know this is an old thread, but never data not available)

That is one report every 10 mins, 7 days a week. (assuming 8 hours sleep per day)

https://media.tenor.com/Xa_elb_BE-0AAAAC/computer-sleep.gif

Edit:  Been watching this for five minutes.   Dude just does not take a break!

Uhh....actmyname hasn't been active since January, and I'm not too sure he's been active much at all in at least a year as I can't remember the last time I saw a post from him.  I'm pretty sure he isn't reporting posts--or is he?  Can you make reports without the system updating your 'last active' date?  And if so, why would he be doing that?

Aside from that, it'd sure be nice if Theymos did another stat dump.  People who report bad posts are the unsung heroes of this forum, who basically get almost no recognition whatsoever, and yet they serve an incredibly important function.  I won't hold my breath for any data from Theymos, but the top reporters deserve it IMO.

If I remember correctly, he used some automation tools to make it faster to report shitposts.

That's why the idea of reporter badge images (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4742257.0) is almost 6 years old. How time flies!

I still like the idea, and of the badge being optional. I'm not sure I would even qualify for one, but to wear the badge "with pride" just seems like something that this guy would be doing:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/9-29-2015/KKnooD.gif

Frankly I don't know why I bother doing the reports, other than it gives me a personal satisfaction to see absolutely shitty posts get deleted. Bonus satisfaction points if they would have counted toward that week's sig campaign payment.

If only we could see their face after they see their posts disappear :D
My evil side still wants to Merit a user right before he gets banned for plagiarism, just to make it hurt a bit more.

Ratimov was also very active with reports back than, not sure if he also used any tools or not, but he made reports mostly in his local board.

Same here, but I think it makes forum just a little bit easier to use for me, at least for boards that I usually visit.
I certainly wouldn't spend hours reporting posts every day just so that I could have reporters badge, but it would be cool if theymos could release fresh list of top reporters.

These tools can be what he used.

[HACK] One-click mod report, not for the faint of heart (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103488.0)
[Userscript] Report to moderator on post history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5101823.0)

I remember Ratimov used to have very high active time daily, like a sleepless users when he was addictive with reports old posts.

I agree that the publication of these statistics would be a kind of thank you to all those who work in the background to make the forum a better and more pleasant place for all who visit it as members and as guests. I don't know the real reason why the admin doesn't do it anymore, but if it's just a lack of time, can that task be transferred to the global moderator @hilariousandco who is active in the posting Monthly Report Statistics (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5360272.msg63986241#msg63986241)?

I remember him explicitly saying that he didn't us any tools for all those hundreds of thousands of reports that he made (or whatever was the number) but who knows was that really the case since his numbers were crazy.


Same here, but I have to say that it gives me less and less satisfaction meaning I am nowhgere as active on the reporting scene as I was.

I've done that.



Not on purpose, though.

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I wonder if there might be a bit of a dilemma for theymos in regards to putting out a top reporters post.. it is like saying: "here are the biggest tattle tales," an I am not even trying to denigrate "reporting" concept.

I do remember that badge, but I could swear that it was only a couple of years ago when the idea was implemented.  You're right, time certainly does fly (and to you young'ins, the perception of time zipping away from you only gets stronger as you age--trust me).


Even if you do it for that reason, you're still helping the forum when those shitposts get erased forever.  If enough people report shitposts and other issues, the benefits add up.  I don't know how many posts I reported this year, but it was probably more than the past two years combined.  I don't have as much fire in my belly as I did back in 2016-17, but when I see a generic, poorly-written post I hit that report button speedily and with no hesitation.  The merit system has helped clean up the worst of the mess we had pre-2018, but the problem of members making zero-value posts to make money lingers on.


Wish I had an answer to that, but I'm not a staff member and have no clue what goes on behind the scenes.  You'd think it'd be a simple fix like the one you described, but I suspect Theymos has his reasons for not acknowledging reporters publicly.  I couldn't even hazard a guess what those reasons are, though.

Well, I don't really mean to be derogatory ^{[forgive me if that's how it looks to you]}but, what sort of post do you report? You've got a little language impediment - that could be because you don't speak English as your native language? - if that's the case, how then do you evaluate good post? Just asking  :)
While that might be the case, how about you think in this direction - realistically, since the data hasn't been updated just yet, that there isn't anyone that you'd think is leading on the chart? Actmyname has been relentlessly good prior to his inactive days ^{[we've got a couple of others too][/sub] but that's what I've ever known the dude for.}
That's obviously not the case.. ^{[I mean, how did you miss Tranthi's post?]}

Having to interpret what a poster is trying to say is not an issue. It's to be expected on any international forum...

For me a post deserving to be reported as trash is usually bloody obvious: things like thinly disguised clickbait ads/referrals, wildly off-topic, etc. Same for Wrong area, be it an altcoin topic in the Bitcoin areas or hardware sales or services advertising outside of their reserved areas of the forum.

As of late the number of obviously AI generated posting and plagiarism is on the rise no doubt because ChatGPT makes it so easy to ask a question and then post its answer as if the poster came up with it instead of DYOR, formulating ideas from the research and only then making a post about it. Problem is, most AI generated crap is just that - crap - in that it often contains many errors. One good clue to AI crap is that it often reads like a dry, sanitized, textbook.

but does he lose that merit or does it stay?

It does even merit for deleted post stays
The user loses access to the account in a way it's like losing the merit.
Except they appeal and the appeal is accepted.

I never thought about that alone - my criterion would strictly be on thread derailing post, post made in the wrong section and 'em falsified cookie-cutter post. Seems everyone has a different lookout and that pretty fair.
There's also a way to counterbalance the whole situation and eliminate AI posters.. Although the latter might be arduous! Matter of fact, lovesmay, nutilda, jolly good and the rest aren't relinquishing at all; my worst fears would be unlocked the moment the forum becomes unreadable.
ouuchh! That would hurt! ^{Please, bans me :P}

The only reason that I have already mentioned several times is the one that stems from the fact that some members were unhappy that such data were published publicly. Even if this is the reason, there is always a solution in the way of marking them with "x" or "anonymous" instead of their name - of course such a way of posting would require the admin to send a PM to everyone on that list so that it could be partially "censored" if it is really a problem for someone.

Nearly everything that should be reported for keep the Forum clean and other Users safe. 8)
Spam posts , Double posts , Wrong made board threads , Ref links , Scammer posts , Malware and Suspicious Links and so on.
If you want to dive deeper into that , take a look here Report Malware and Suspicious Links here so Mods can take Action ! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182222.0)

Wtf why i should have a language impediment ?
English is not my native language thats right , its german but I have been speaking English fluently for several years.
So for me there is no problem on the speak language front.

Simple answer , with Merit and not reporting it.

I had to Google it:
If shitposting would be done in secret, it wouldn't be a problem ;) Would anyone blame someone for reporting a lot of spam?

The obvious ones are indeed easy, and quickly get handled. But I see much less of them lately. Maybe because I stay away from certain boards, or maybe because there really is less spam. My current 30 days report history (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=reportlist;mine) has 31 Good reports, and 7 Unhandled. That ratio used to be about 26.5 to 1. I guess Mods are now more lenient than I would be ;)

Google this: "Snitches get stitches"^**


 :D :D :D :D

**by the way, please note that I am not threatening any of you tattle tales.

I for one have no problem at all with being known to report posts. My sig line says it all, "For bitcoin to succeed the community must police itself".

I'm glad to help keep this forum usable by winnowing out the crap and redirecting posts to their right areas. At last count my total is now 4583 posts with 99% accuracy (4424 good, 85 bad, 74 unhandled).

If I may ask: how many posts have you reported? You seem to think reporting posts is a bad thing, I think it's a good thing. It's like calling waste collection when there's a pile of trash in your area.

You don't need to certify him on the ground of reporting as many post as possible. Reporting post isn't bad either, it ensures the safety of everyone from scammers, spam messages and also post that isn't suppose to be under certain thread. No need to justify your point. But we need to have substantial evidence to back-up any report in order to avoid tarnishing identity of any member then up end retrieving such report.

My disclaimers did not work to show that I was largely just attempting to highlight a bit of a dilemma in the idea of disclosing who the highest level reporters are... not that the gangs of  bad guys run the forum.

But, yeah, maybe my own way of framing the disclosing of reporters comes off as if I don't believe in reporting, which most of my reports have tended to revolve around shills, yet I am sure there are some other categories in which I believe posts go overboard.. so I am not even sure if I want to disclose my number of reports.. since I am not against reporting and I do engage in such activities myself.. .. but it is several hundred reports over the years... .. but yeah, I have been a forum member for more than 10 years, so I might not have reported very many posts my first couple of years, so yeah, sure, I most likely would not even make the top 1,000 reporters, but that does not mean that I am against reporting (and tattle tales.. to make it fun)..

I was just wanting to throw in some color with the idea of reporting in regards to showing the dilemma of disclosing high level reporters.. and so in that regard, it may or may not be the kind of an attention that a high level reporter wants.. .. .. yet it likely is not even as BIG of a point as I was making it out to be.. so maybe I should just retract the whole idea.. since it is not even that BIG of a deal to me.. and sure, we all benefit, even from the reporters who might be prolific in the sense of over-doing it.. .. so now.. look you got me to concede...and maybe even agree that maybe I should attempt to pick up my reporting game.. and surely I tend to report most of the posts that I believe to have gone overboard.. and even though I read a lot of posts, I do not necessarily end up come across a lot of posts that I find to be reportable.


I doubt that you need very much evidence to report the post of another member (0r even the conduct of another member that might be represented by a series of posts). You just should have a reason that you put in the report which suggest some kind of conduct that you believe to be in violation of the forum's rules... so there might not be a BIG downside to reporting... so for example, I don't tend to report posts that are not on topic, except if I were in a thread and the other member continue to push off-topic ideas (and the member was told to stop), then maybe after a while I might report those kinds of posts.   

So, there are likely some kinds of posts that I could report, and I do not do it because I might find them to NOT go beyond my own concerns, even if technically they might be breaking a forum rule.. and another thing that some members do, is they just tell the member that they are breaking a forum rule, so that might help to get the member to stop.  I know that sometimes I am bothered by failures to cite sources for information, and surely there are some posts that appear like they are done by bots rather than real people, but it can be quite difficult to spend time trying to figure out some of those kinds of matters.. and even for someone like me.. sometimes, I find that I am reading through a bunch of crappy forum posts, but they don't reach a level of reportability, even though they might not really be adding any value and might be difficult to read in terms of figuring out what kind of point they might be trying to make.. so yeah, it is nice to come across forum members who are able to present their points in interesting ways and to use examples and sometimes to point out references to support the points of their post.