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Wasn't the merit system designed and hand-coded by theymos from scratch, including complicated background functionality? I'm sure the badges for the top reporters would be much easier to make. There is a good chance that Theymos will consider this feature if the community shows enough interest. Or maybe it will be included in bitcointalk 2.0 release.
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If I remember correctly theymos said a while back that coding badges in such a way so that people could have the option to display or not display the badge would be difficult.
I don't believe that for a minute--even though I'm not a coder. If those gold coins can be put under every member's rank, I seriously doubt Theymos (who is very intelligent and has a lot of resources) wouldn't be able to give members some sort of badge. Plus he did exactly that for the forum anniversary art contest winner if I'm not mistaken. Its different because the art contest winner badge displays whether the user wanted it to or not. There was an art contest for reporter badge design 2.5 years ago, so that part has already been taken care of at least. Here's what I was talking about: still waiting for it ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) Sorry for the wait, when I went to implement this it ended up being quite a bit more of a can of worms than I originally thought because of opting out, preventing certain report-count-padding strategies, etc. It's still on my to-do list, but there are several things above it.
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Wow, really did not expect to see my name in the top 10. Figured there would be a lot more people above me. I figure when I have a day like this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5058163.msg55954810#msg55954810 that there are a lot more people reporting a lot more stuff out there. Big thank you to the mods who have to read all the reports and act on them. These are the people who have the most good reports over the last year: +-------------------------+--------------+ | User | Good reports | +-------------------------+--------------+ | vareole | 569 | +-------------------------+--------------+ Damn, an actual scammer has been cleaning up the forum undercover! Its kind of a Batman-type situation, except instead of being a billionaire playboy he's a scammer. The reports are probably for excessive bumps and whatever posted by the competition. That and probably reporting marginal posts by people who tagged him as a scammer. -Dave
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Surprised to see myself there, but sometime back when Ratimov revealed the numbers, I was like bruh, that's a shitton! Mods seeing his name on be like "Here we go again" ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I lost a little bit of gusto on my reports when it became clear most of them weren’t being handled and it appeared as though the promised reporter badge would never materialize. Would be cool to see some %’s next to those reports. On that note, any idea if those reporter badges fell into the same black hole as the 10-year anniversary coins?
Time to reignite the passion, haha. The only time I managed to get this far was due to the tidal wave of malspam ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdnv1.csgo500.com%2Femotes%2Frisitas.png&t=665&c=hWuUnfHfq8EjNg) Are we getting prepared for the badges?? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Sadly the last year wasn't so good for me and my presence in the forum was so little I didn't even end up on the bottom of the list. Hope this changes soon. Coming soon just like Bitcointalk V2 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdnv1.csgo500.com%2Femotes%2Fsadcat.png&t=665&c=NEC5YkvQio-rHQ)
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What about the users who don't want to have their activity exposed? Have you thought about it? I know I can't really say, it's personal, but it is a bit to me. It's part of my privacy Without debating on the social side it can have, because it's something else and I'm not concerned, but someone else can be You won't be able to work as a cop. Imagine, you snitch everybody who snitched ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) no hard feelings
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A round of applause for the top reporters. Posts that should be deleted as it doesn't pass the requirements of being a high quality post won't always be found as there are lots of forum users then here comes our reporters finding such posts. I thought those forum users I have read that report the posts would be in thay list but only see few. I think there will be a new contest which is to create a reporter badge.
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Amazing numbers! LeGaulois who is at the bottom of the list has 3 more good reports in the last year alone than I have overall. All I can say is congratulations to everyone who made it. I certainly can't commit to doing what you do in keeping the forum clean on a regular basis. The administration is lucky to have you onboard.
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September 22, 2021, 11:06:28 AM |
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What about the users who don't want to have their activity exposed? Have you thought about it? I know I can't really say, it's personal, but it is a bit to me. It's part of my privacy
That question has been asked before about reporter's badges if I’m not mistaken, and I accept that everyone has a right to their privacy, even if they don’t want to be publicly known to be doing something good. I guess anyone who has such an opinion could contact the admin and ask that he not be exposed in public. For me, this is not a problem, and I do not consider it a violation of privacy (like most other members of the forum) - nor do I expect that someone could take revenge on me for reporting his bad posts since only mods/admins can see such a link.
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September 22, 2021, 11:18:31 AM |
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This is to say, every work you're doing to keep the forum going is been recognized in one way or the other. It's awesome seeing the top reporters that have given all their best to fish out the bad seeds in this forum. Their deeds are so remarkable. Shout out to everyone that has been reporting in one way or the other, keep it up
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If I'm not wrong, for the art contest badges, he put them on manually. He can do it occasionally for a particular event, but I can't see Theymos doing it on a regular basis (unless he appoints a "badge giver", like he did for the "whitelisters").
You're probably not wrong at all, and my point is that Theymos did indeed give someone a badge, so it can be done again. I wouldn't expect that he'd have to give different badges to however many reporters he wanted to give reporter badges to, so it isn't as though he'd have to create more than one. Nor would he have to hand out more than, say, 10 (for the top 10 reporters of all-time, which is who I think they ought to be given out to). How much extra work could that possibly be? I don't think it's a matter of work or coding; I think it's a matter of will. What about the users who don't want to have their activity exposed? Have you thought about it?
I'd say PM Theymos about that if you're concerned about your anonymity. I'm pretty sure he'd respect that.
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You're probably not wrong at all, and my point is that Theymos did indeed give someone a badge, so it can be done again. I wouldn't expect that he'd have to give different badges to however many reporters he wanted to give reporter badges to, so it isn't as though he'd have to create more than one. Nor would he have to hand out more than, say, 10 (for the top 10 reporters of all-time, which is who I think they ought to be given out to). How much extra work could that possibly be? I don't think it's a matter of work or coding; I think it's a matter of will.
OK, I had misunderstood your last post. I agree, it should be possible to give a badge to 1/5/10/X people (for those who want) for the best reporters of a year. In my last post, I was referring to the original idea of the badge reporter: getting a badge after X good reports. I can't see Theymos doing it manually ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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In my last post, I was referring to the original idea of the badge reporter: getting a badge after X good reports. I can't see Theymos doing it manually ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) He could delegate the final approval of badges to mods who handle those reports anyway and know if the 5000 reports were useful or some fluff to pad the stats. Yeah, I know it's not decentralized and whatnot but still would be better than nothing IMO. And mods could ask the user before approving a badge so that would take care of privacy concerns.
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September 22, 2021, 08:19:01 PM |
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What about the users who don't want to have their activity exposed? Have you thought about it?
I'm absolutely sure that if anyone wanted to continue reporting, but didn't want to be included in these statistics from time to time they could send theymos a message. It was be relatively easy to omit certain users with a generic placeholder without losing the usefulness of the data, especially considering this isn't something which is done frequently. He could delegate the final approval of badges to mods who handle those reports anyway and know if the 5000 reports were useful or some fluff to pad the stats. Yeah, I know it's not decentralized and whatnot but still would be better than nothing IMO. And mods could ask the user before approving a badge so that would take care of privacy concerns.
I guess it depends on how it's currently implemented. If it's pretty complex to code around at the moment, it might mean that allowing certain staff to manually add badges could potentially cause issues, and that could be unpredictable due to the nature. It's probably better, and would save less headaches if theymos did it themselves or going the automatic route, since they know the way around the code.
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September 27, 2021, 12:32:09 PM Merited by Symmetrick (1) |
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I just noticed this topic and I'd like to say that it's a great honor for me, to see me included in the top reporters group from last year. To be honest, I even forgot how many reports I made last year ( ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ) therefore it was a very nice surprise to see me there, in the upper part of the list. I remember though that I spent a while to make all those reports, which I made manually, with no intervention of a script of some sort. I am glad that I could help the forum with my contribution and I'd like to congratulate all the others which helped in their own ways. Only working as many of as as possible we can keep this forum clean. Besides these, I have to say that I almost can't believe my eyes seeing users which made more than 30.000 reports in a year. I take off my hat in front of such performance!
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These are the people who have the most good reports over the last year: If their accuracy has been good, why have these top reporters not been made moderators, or offered such a position? The clearest test of a good moderator is a user with good judgement, much less their activity. If these users were assigned as mods in their most popular sections (based on their stats), it would save a lot of global mod work not having to deal with these reports. Just saying. In my last post, I was referring to the original idea of the badge reporter: getting a badge after X good reports. I can't see Theymos doing it manually ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) He could delegate the final approval of badges to mods who handle those reports anyway and know if the 5000 reports were useful or some fluff to pad the stats. Delegation is the direction of decentralization, even if it's not idealistic decentralization, it's a step in the right direction. Delegation not deliberation 💪 I guess it depends on how it's currently implemented. If it's pretty complex to code around at the moment, it might mean that allowing certain staff to manually add badges could potentially cause issues, and that could be unpredictable due to the nature. It's probably better, and would save less headaches if theymos did it themselves or going the automatic route, since they know the way around the code.
There's nothing unpredictable about special membership groups. You grant trusted mods access to membership groups, they then add/remove users from such groups (which shows in admin logs). Not sure why this is considered complex to code, membership groups with badges is a very basic part of modern forum software. It'd only be complex to code if the software is archaic. Otherwise it's just easy button clicking. If as an admin you can't trust your global mods, you can't trust anyone ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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November 14, 2021, 02:26:03 AM |
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What about the users who don't want to have their activity exposed? Have you thought about it? I know I can't really say, it's personal, but it is a bit to me. It's part of my privacy Without debating on the social side it can have, because it's something else and I'm not concerned, but someone else can be You won't be able to work as a cop. Imagine, you snitch everybody who snitched ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) no hard feelings Your privacy isn't something that the forum worries about. You have to remember you're the product here, not the customer. Your activity will be displayed in the way that will most benefit the forum, not you. Not the way I think it should be, but any other answer would just be wrong. People can even go as far as to dox you and make up stories to try and have you targeted by police agencies or vigilantes without any recourse. It's sad, but it all comes back to us being the product and not the customer. There was once a time when that wasn't the case, but those days are long gone.
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Holy shit! Some of you managed to report 38580 or 33267! Do you guys ever log out from your account? You have to remember you're the product here, not the customer.
It's hard to take but it's true. But I am happy that I am helping the community to bring more people in the bitcoin space. It's part of my privacy
Come on man! don't hide yourself. What are you scared of? Topics from spammers against you on reputation board.
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November 14, 2021, 12:01:56 PM |
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Only noticed this thread today and completely surprised to be so high in the list. I do take some pride in my 99% accuracy rating (with almost all of the 1% being due to double reporting...... ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) ), as it confirms my "firm but fair" policy. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Bringing this gang of 13 shitposters down was great. They haven't been back since June. Also, the fact that I'm openly pointing fingers to certain campaigns packed with shitposters, has made me receive plenty of fan mail by PM, from people who explain to me in colorful terms several things they'd like to do to me and to my mother. Such nice people. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Some extra help in the non-English threads might be welcome. I'm quite sure they're full of shitposters but it's difficult to prove if you don't speak their language. Further on: let's keep it up.
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Lucius
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November 15, 2021, 11:01:09 AM |
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Also, the fact that I'm openly pointing fingers to certain campaigns packed with shitposters, has made me receive plenty of fan mail by PM, from people who explain to me in colorful terms several things they'd like to do to me and to my mother. Such nice people. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I hope you use the report to admin option in the same effective way as the report to moderator. Some forum members live in the delusion that they can send PM with any content and that it will not have any consequences. As for the shitposters, unfortunately, if we removed them all from the signature campaigns, there would be a lot of empty spaces left, which is not realistic to expect. So the only option is to report their posts and hope that at least some of them will try to change for the better.
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November 15, 2021, 07:40:52 PM Merited by vapourminer (1) |
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So the only option is to report their posts and hope that at least some of them will try to change for the better. Lucius, This is best hope when we try to report spammer action to moderators so that our time is not wasted. Some of them may be aware, but maybe not. Things are starting to change with some of the posters I've been reporting on, and they're posting less frequently on the boards I frequent [altcoin discussions]. I have 900 good reports at the moment, if any 1, 2, 3 of them change their posting pattern for the better then that is a success in itself for me. The thing is, have any of you ever reviewed the post history of the users you reported before? If they start to change, will you thank them for it?
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