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I rarely, if ever, make threads like these but this time the amount of shady actions is just too overwhelming for me to look the other way.

Long story short I ran a bounty for GOMA some time ago and as always with a lot of bounties when payday comes around there's a bunch of issues/delays. The owner of GOMA stopped responding to me and only when I brought up issues in the bounty group he would get back to me and be like "omg duude I'm in like 500 chats wtf why would you slander all that I've worked for just because I didn't respond to you ASAP!?" and things like that.

Either way. About half the bounty ($15,000) was paid out according to the timeframe that had been set beforehand. It was not without issues and this guy "Dean" (Telegram @staysentient, Twitter https://twitter.com/deancannell), would complain to me about how the bounty was the worst decision he had ever made as all the hunters were just killing the price and he had to use up a lot of resources to "save" it. The funny thing here is that a couple of days before the price had started to dump already (likely from him selling) and he/the goma team as well as his 2nd project Torii.finance (which he'll claim is someone elses project) would blame the bounty alone for this dumpening.

Fast forward a bit and I'm asking Dean about the 2nd payment and the other 50%, when it will happen and how it'll go. He does not respond to me for a week at which point my inbox starts blowing up from all the bounty participants so I give them his telegram and he instantly responds to me, again with the same disbelief of how I could have done such a thing as he had never fucked me over and just didn't see my messages because of 500 chats etc. etc. At this point I'm pretty fed up and done with it but he said they'd take care of it beginning of September. I message him almost daily and he "sees" the first few messages but never replies, up until yesterday he had not responded yet.

Today, the 20th of September someone in the bounty group shares this image from the goma main telegram group:
https://i.imgur.com/nRvZVp9.jpg

They send an email to that address and gets this reply:
https://i.imgur.com/KFmizrj.jpg

This has never been communicated to me which just agains shows they'll always try and deflect and pin their ability (or lack thereof) on somebody else when they screw up.

A few users have said they sent an email to the specified address and received part of their payment but others are reporting they get no reply, all sent within a similar timeframe.

I'm still owed about 1 trillion GOMA tokens from the bounty management (it's a bit more) which right now is worth roughly 29 BNB.

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I do not expect much to come from this. This is just a warning, do not invest in GOMA. Do not invest in TORII.FINANCE. If you ever come across the user "Dean" - Run away as fast as you can and don't enter into any dealings with him.

Funny thing is I messaged him like 30 minutes ago saying I would make this thread as this has gone too far and lo and behold he became active and read my messages, only to clear our entire history and likely blocking me on Telegram right afterwards.

Again, I don't create this threads very often so apologies for the formatting. Can take some time and make it look better as I'm sure others may come in and help me. I do not care about the money I'm owed, I counted those as lost long ago but I do not want anyone else to get involved with this obvious rug pull.
 

Reserved

What happened:: Goma team owed half bounty distribution.

Scammers Profile Link: N/A

Reference Link: Dean (Telegram @staysentient, Twitter https://twitter.com/deancannell)
Amount Scammed: $15,000
Payment Method: GOMA token
Proof of Payment: N/A
PM/Chat Logs: N/A
Additional Notes: This is just a warning, do not invest in GOMA. Do not invest in TORII.FINANCE.

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So you didn't escrowed the bounty distribution first? I don't know how you can made an agreement and how he make you could trust him, but the risk still there.

The Goma team are pump their own token to attract new investors +30% right now https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/goma-finance/

Since there's no GOMA representative account and announcement in this forum, we can't do much with this problem. I hope bounty hunters can also understand this problem, though it should be since there's no 100% guarantee about the payment.

Kudos, Hhampuz. I remember GOMA but I can't be sure again if I ended up participating at the time, it's a long time. I must've felt since a reputable manager was incharge that all would go well or something close to that. I like the way you called GOMA out. This is what reputable managers do. At one time, CryptopreneurBrainboss also did same when a project he managed went rogue –[SCAM] Burst.Money project, scamming bounty manager and participants. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5338454)

It was the same thing those of us who participated in the DEGO bounty expected Fatemablabla (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1110071) to do when DEGO reneged on complete distribution to hardworking hunters. Sadly, Fatema went cold on the matter, leaving us to believe she connived with the team to defraud hunters. She hastily left her telegram bounty group and absconded from facing the responsibility of her actions till date.

We need more of this call out to put these scums in check and help prevent others from getting caught in their web of deceit.

What a coward.

He could have said that he is not happy with bounty results and at least make a comment why he is refusing to pay the second part of reward. Instead dev cowardly deleted everything (that is funny, because "What goes on the Internet, stays on the Internet") and blamed hunters for dropping token price. Year 2018-2019 ICO classics.

TRUE BE TOLD, THIS Story remains the same everyday about bounty hunters and the project owners. pathetic. project owners will plead and smile during campaigns. promising heaven and earth to bounty managers and participants untill the project hits the market. it becomes a different story. abusive verbal exchanges and text chats will fill every where. with project owner abusing his trusted campaign manager. calling him sorts of Names.


For bounty hunters, this should be a lesson especially to the newbies flocking into bounties. project owners don't give any sh**t about your handwork. if the project fails, they create another one and pay a manger to do the job.
the pattern has never changed. conduct a bounty. at the end, blame hunters for price movement. if the market favours them, the refused distribution. calming hunters will kill the project.

So bad of the so called team, I see no reason why they will be gready with releasing funds to Hunter's who has worked so hard for them.
And they try in one way or the other to accuse the team and make it seems it's totally their right to delay, or not to make payment.
This is the first bounty which I have participated managed by Hhampuz which ends up not paying Hunter's.
If the team can scam bounty Hunters and BM how much more investors?

Goma team is the most worst team i have ever seen. So don't invest your money. All the team members are scammer. They can easily scam your money. So avoid this project.

Goma team didn’t pay 2nd half that's very bad.  We should take action. Goma team big scamer

We don't want to see this type project in crypto space..Full
Scam project of the year.Dont invest in goma.

How did you link the TORII.FINANCE and the Goma token?
This is interesting because if this is true then the two projects are potential rug pull projects after a bull market.


Fatema looks like she got paid and left instead of distributing the tokens. I could be wrong but so many complaints of her in the bounty group. Not saying she is a complete scam though but the team certainly should have constant communication since their business is not yet done. Ignoring messages alone plants doubt in our heads.

Telegram ID @staysentient was used by member Jovovich (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=947654) here:

[archive (https://ninjastic.space/post/57880226)]

Check his history. He sought Telegram shillers and mass invites during July and August. He also started multiple topics related to dextools ranking.
When did the Goma project started? I can't find the ANN topic.

Good job sir Hhampuz, you have spoken well and the action you take was the right action. At least if there is a single trust this would have not happen. They are trying to tarnish your reputation by not replying your messages and laying to Hunters that they informed you. They owed your money and refuse to pay 50% bounty rewards, this project didn't deserve trust anymore.

To everyone in this group...

Respectfully, the below message is not the case and is not true.

Yes, there were delays in payment - we apologize for that, but GOMA has been making payments EVERY SINGLE DAY to bounty hunters since the emails started coming in...

EVERY SINGLE DAY - there are alot of emails, and alot of bounty members, and we are making those payments DAILY!

Again, we apologize for the delay

GOMA TEAM
bounty@gomatoken.com



PS: Hhampuz is an exccellent bounty manager, and there is no disrespect intended toward him or anyone else... please just give a little bit nore time ffor the payments, we are doing it DAILY

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We will continue doing the bounty payments, even though this thread is up... its very sad... but if the price goes to zero, mthen the bounty payments will be worth nothing at all

again, we understand the frustration - but as mentioned, we are making the payments every day, and there are thousands of people. PLease please have patience

SINCERELY,
GOMA



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I can't even believe you are from the goma team @Jovovich. The way Dean handled all of this and ended by clearing our entire telegram history, even though he still owed me money, makes me not want to touch goma with a stick. A project is only as good as its leaders and while you have Dean there, you're destined to be doomed.

Also, "thousands of participants" is simply jot true. You have the sheet, all is there to be verified and payments were meant to start on the 1st of September. You couldn't even give me the courtesy of letting me know about that stupid email system. Not to mention some of your "admins" or devs, whatever, have been spreading false info throughout. One that has been circulating on telegram is that you sent me the tokena for the payouts meaning you had nothing to do with delays - shitty practices by a bad team where communication seems to be non existent. I told Dean I'd take this a bit more personal as he annoyed me and I intend to stand by that.

TO EVERYONE:

The reality is that the more FUD is spread, the less the bounties will be worth

And they are  being paid every single day... lets work together to rather spread optimism rather than pessimism even though everyoone is frustrated.

Thank you for the cooperation.
GOMA TEAM

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Hi there Hhampuz,

Thank you for the reply - Thousands of EMAILS, not participants

We are working through each and everyone of them. We understand that it is a frustrating and different process, unfortunately we had to do it this way.

I will speak with Dean and find out more, but I can ssure you the bounties are being paid.

Sincerely
GOMA TEAM

bounty@gomatoken.com



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Does this mean that you don't pay bounty to participants until they send an email? Has this been announced from the beginning?

The problem is that you failed to communicate regularly with your manager. Even if you're running a one-man show, answering bounty manager inquires should be your priority.
Btw, stop unnecessary multi-posting and self-quoting.

This is a fair point, and we understand, and are doing our best to rectify the situation

We are busy paying everyone, we apologize for the delays

@Jovovich you seem more concerned with pumping up the price than anything. You have an incompetent team running a project where you seem way out of your depths. This entire email thing is just another step which shows you're clueless. THERE IS A SPREADSHEET!

We understand - Dean has messaged you on Telegram to discuss

And says rest assured either way, the bounties are being paid every single day.

We appreciate the cooperation here.

Sincerely,
GOMA TEAM

I don't know if you're new here (bought account?) or if you are just trying to buy time but lying won't help you @Jovovich.

Nobody is lying, please check Telegram

And bounty hunters are being paid

It's been 2 days since I sent an email to request a Bounty distribution. But the team still has no answer

Hi there!

We understand, and apologize, there are thousands of emails - please trust that we are doing the payments, I am sure many of the bounty members have received already

We have been making payments or the last few days, and yes there was a delay which we apologize for!

I hope you will be on todays list, we are working on it! THANK YOU IN ADVANCE for your cooperation

Sincerely,
GOMA TEAM

The biggest question for me to GOMA team is why they need the bounty hunters to send them that freaking email?.  They've never communicated it first, they have Hhampuz as a BM why didn't use the channel?. All of this GOMA moves seems shady to me. I can't trust them.

And so what if the GOMA price going to zero?. It doesn't matter to me, as long as they get the lesson. We can also make them as one of example of destroyed project by hunters just because they don't pay the rewards. Other cunning projects should see them as reference.

I hope you can share the form to email the GOMA team.

trust?

you had an excellent manager working with you and you have a participant spreadsheet, why don't you send the funds to the manager so he can make payments to the participants? if you want to be transparent why don't you use transparent and reliable methods that would be to send the funds to the manager and he would make the payments?

We made a mistake; that is what we are saying, and the delays are our fault, and we apologize

That is what we are saying - and we are doing our best to make it up to everyone

We already started the second half of the payments before this thread, and will keep on going

Sorry for the inconvenience caused, genuinely

@Jovovich, You aren't going the right way and that's the reason why this thread was created. It's was very simple to pay hunters payment upon the end of the campaign. Why are you worried about token dump now and didn't think about it before doing the bounty campaign? From the beginning, you could maintain payout to prevent price dumping. If you don't want to payout at the same time, then should pay step by step without any arguments.

And why are you asking to mail again, you have the list of who deserves how much token. Isn't that? Making so many rules after complete the campaign and raised the funds. The team behavior isn't professional at all. It wasn't necessary to make so much drama.

We realised this now, we didn't know better

To be honest we do not know bounties very well, it was a mistake

You are right, too much drama for no good reason. We take full responsibility

So we don't have to send emails anymore right?

Nope! We realised now what the problem is, too much friction

We did not know this before - and it is our own faults.

@Hhampuz did a great job, we are working on the list! Sorry for the inconvenience, and we hope that you will see that we did not intentionally create an issue

Sincerely

The first payment is very favorable. GOMA price did not decrease. Why do you think it will be devalued.

Great . This is probably the best decision the GOMA team has made. I'm waiting for the latest news from when to distribute

They're trying to hog all the money, they didn't get a lot of money from pumping their token so they decided not to pay the other half and delay if not cut off any contacts with the bounty, hopefully these can be resolved, I don't get how they're not holding up their end of the bargain.

Please pay in full to the hunters who worked hard on your project and put an end to this chain of friction. This is needed more than ever.

Be patient bro

Goma's team doesn't believe the spreadsheet and BM, hunters have to send an email to get the token.
this is really drama, and unbelievable

I didn't participate in this bounty but I can feel the sentiments behind and I don't think that patience is going to be helpful in this situation, they're trying to ignore the bounty in the Telegram discussion meaning that they're planning some sort of exit towards paying those bounty hunters, also worth mentioning that this thread wouldn't exist in the first place if the patience of the people hadn't been abused.

They are definitely looking for a way to buy more time because their bounty campaign spreadsheet is there for them to make payment to every participant footing the task executed.

Thats show their level of incompetent and the last time I checked Hhampuz was one of the understand and mature manager we have in this forum. If they treated this issue professional Hhampuz would have advised on what to do that will make them pay the bounty hunters and also sort the problem from their end.
Hope the project owner whos planning to do the bounty campaign will learn from the Goma team mistake and also choose to pay in another altcoin (like bnb/usdt) if they care more about pumping the price of their token cause their no way most bounty hunter will dump the token after the payment due to their previous experience about meme coin.

We understand the frustration, all we can do is apologize.

We messed up, we have made 200 payments today, we are nearly there. SORRY for the inconvenience.

our team is not familiar with how bounties work, and we didnt understand.

We as a team apologize to all of you.
GOMA TEAM

 @Jovovich, you kept emphasizing on the 200 payment you have made to hunters today.

How come no one from the bounty telegram group has received their Goma?
Can you produce the transaction hash of the 200 payment you made to hunters today?

You are such a liar. How do you explain this?

[BOUNTY CLOSED] Pareto Network - The P2P Financial Content Marketplace (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2402326.0)

You ran bounty four years ago and now you claim you aren't familiar with the way bounty works?

@Jovovich, I'm getting no reports about bounty participants being paid through all of this. I also have not seen my payment land in my wallet so.. Your word has literally 0 value here.

This is exactly what Jovovich needs to do. Alternatively, if someone has the contract address, you guys can look and see if any transactions have been made recently.

OMG....I'm in the wrong line of work if that's what you get paid for being a bounty manager!  Is that typical?  29 BNB is just about $11,100 at the current price.  And I guess you answered the second question I was going to ask, which is whether you get paid in advance for managing the bounty program.  I'm surprised you don't require up-front payment.

Yeah, I don't plan on it.  In fact I'd never even heard of GOMA or the other thing before I came across this thread.  Those communications are unprofessional at best, and at worst they're the writings of a scammer doing exactly what you said--pushing blame on others and also stalling for time.

Wow.  Sounds like a sincere apology.  But apparently it's an empty one, because nobody received any of their payments.  Can you produce blockchain evidence of payments being made?

I normally ask for weekly payments in usdt for running bounties but sometimes I agree to certain deals. For goma te deal was a much lower usdt payment paid up front and then I'd get 5 trillion goma after their pre-sale. Once the price started going up Dean wanted to renegotiate and we settled on 3 trillion goma of which I received roughly 1.7 or 1.8 trillion. Now for the last remaining part their token has spiked like 10x or something at which point the communication stopped despite multiple efforts from my side, they're too busy inflating the price fo the inevitable rug pull is my guess.

Hi there,

It is sincere, it's too late for us to fix this, the post is already up

But, we are making payments daily as promised.

I can assure you that it is true about the payments, another 50 were made right now, anoother 50 will be made in a couple of hours, and continuously.

The apology was as sincere as it is now, and genuine

SINCERELY,
GOMA TEAM

I observed today's GOMA trading average buying around $387 .this is not happening 1x,2x,3x but every minute.
I'm assuming part of the team (probably) or someone else doing the pump, After experiencing a 10x drop since ATH on the 22nd yesterday.
maybe not important, but I hope the payouts for the bounty hunters are done soon and you can sit back in peace @Jovovich.

They are being done! I hope that some of the bounty hunters are letting you know - so that atleast somoe peace can come of this and you will know that there are no lies

Thank you for your patience

Jovovich, is there a specific date, till which you plan to do all the bounty payments? Because "we have thousands of email and we sent 50-200" payments" can last for months.

Can you provide any proof that you have made bounty payments recently? And I am worried about "thousands of emails", because according to spreadsheet, the reward must receive only 1186 address. I am sure that you can spend just one day to send every reward you owe.

after waiting for more than 48hours. i confirm that i didn't get my email replied nor my half bounty get paid.

i think anyone here can see it. Only just for 15k$ goma want to get out from this.

Me too. Please pay the remaining amount to get out of this

Goma team pay 2/4 people who get 5/10$ in the payment sheet.
And told that they pay by making batch with 50 people. They all are liar. Fraud.

I send them minimum 5/6 mail. But they don't response my mail. Because i get 285$+ in the payment sheet.

Do you guys understand what kind of fraud the GOMA team are?

Here is my bsc address: 0x4901ba87B72A15B015B9388Fcc53FBf46CB55434
You guys can see the payment sheet of Goma bounty and can check my amount.
Also by bscscan you guys can see that i got the reward or not.

Thank you.

You may be telling the truth, but the fact is that if you had paid on the agreed date, the amount of tokens received by the hunters would be at least 5 times greater than what you are paying now. Which makes me believe this was a planned delay to pay less.

Honestly, I think you didn't need to act this way, if you had been honest and followed through on the agreement made, it would be good for both sides.

GOMA Officials joining the bounty group (for a few minutes before leaving, lol), and being mad about the bounty group existing.. The level of stupidity and incompetence by the goma team is astonishing, honestly.

https://i.imgur.com/GYHjcCJ.png

Seriously, he didn't know about the group's existence? My God, what an innocent child. The more they try to justify themselves, the more they come into contradiction.

https://i.imgur.com/gmbvNXF.png

The messages below are from 12/08/2021

https://i.imgur.com/wArdPxN.png

I have no idea who this Craig guy is and what his position is on the Goma team, but the fact that he is trying to pin this shitshow on you is beyond stupidity!
Although you risked your pay by opening this thread, it is expected and necessary from a diligent bounty manager. From what I can tell, they had enough warnings and good will on your part to carry out their responsibilities.

No news from Goma team, this means they did a funny Scam Bounty,Bounty manager did a great job, but Goma team didn't, everyone stay away from the project Scam and do not invest in this project Shit coin!!!

It's already 3 days since you claiming you've made the payment, 72 hours should enough to complete the whole 1186 address payment as you said 50 address in a couple hours. But there's still a bounty hunter complaining above, we can assume you're doing nothing here.

I've create a flag for @Jovovich kindly to support if you agree https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2842

I supported the flag, I was disappointed with the Goma project and had a desire to invest in this project but after I saw this topic I lost my confidence in it and refrained investing, Goma team actually sent the second payment to some bounty hunters but not the amount of tokens that they deserve in the spreadsheet,
I don't know what they have to lose if they send the full second payment to all the bounty hunters and to the bounty manager ???  it only takes a few hours, They really ruined their reputation.

He did not keep his promise, I think he does not have the mindset to pay the bounty participants. Because since he has done nothing so far, it would not be right to expect more from him. I checked his profile and saw that he didn't come online today, so I don't understand what he is actually doing! I'm tagging @Jovovich, the tag will remain on his profile until he clears all the Bounty hunter payments.

Flag supported.

It's been a few days and I haven't seen anyone post here who received payment. in other words, you lied. You know it's sad to make people spend hours on the computer publicizing your project and in the end you and all of the team treat with contempt these people who tried so hard to publicize your project, they did their work agreed with you, so pay people, don't use arguments deque fear that the price will fall or any other argument, just pay their money.

Not only to the bounty hunters but also to the bounty manager. Hhampuz did an honest job and deserved compensation.

I support this flag.

Oh no!
What an ungrateful human being he is after the bounty hunters helped and promote his campaign and he came here saying all those cook and bull stories. I made an investment on this project earlier and with this post I got now to sell out my Goma for the CEO singular act.
How could hunters kills his project, already I think it was due to the fear of dumping he said of paying percentage to prevent the price from dumping how come then he said it was hunters who did that after they put all collective efforts to spread and reach out the project. Let say he does that Intentionally after seeing the effects as people were investing.

Let me say this "It is an honor for him to hire Hhampuz to run his project and another greater advantage to him due to his reputation in the forum". So I wonder why he is not appreciative, any campaign managed by Hhampuz always have a good report and come back appreciating him for managing their campaign.

It's unfortunate that these bounty hunters risk their social media pages by posting links and promoting a certain project in the hopes of getting a small token as promised at the start of the campaign, only to be screwed by the project team later because they are all scammers with nothing to offer anyone. I've seen several situations in the past where the bounty manager has screwed the bounty hunters.

Unfortunately, this project is moving skyrocketing. the price keeps pumping and the reward of 15usd distributed on September now worth over 910USD. the right time to dump Is now but seems the project looks fishy, lets enjoy the ride. the thing is, we are approaching a bull market and we never know when this scam coin will stop pumping.