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I rarely, if ever, make threads like these but this time the amount of shady actions is just too overwhelming for me to look the other way. Long story short I ran a bounty for GOMA some time ago and as always with a lot of bounties when payday comes around there's a bunch of issues/delays. The owner of GOMA stopped responding to me and only when I brought up issues in the bounty group he would get back to me and be like "omg duude I'm in like 500 chats wtf why would you slander all that I've worked for just because I didn't respond to you ASAP!?" and things like that. Either way. About half the bounty ($15,000) was paid out according to the timeframe that had been set beforehand. It was not without issues and this guy "Dean" (Telegram @staysentient, Twitter https://twitter.com/deancannell), would complain to me about how the bounty was the worst decision he had ever made as all the hunters were just killing the price and he had to use up a lot of resources to "save" it. The funny thing here is that a couple of days before the price had started to dump already (likely from him selling) and he/the goma team as well as his 2nd project Torii.finance (which he'll claim is someone elses project) would blame the bounty alone for this dumpening. Fast forward a bit and I'm asking Dean about the 2nd payment and the other 50%, when it will happen and how it'll go. He does not respond to me for a week at which point my inbox starts blowing up from all the bounty participants so I give them his telegram and he instantly responds to me, again with the same disbelief of how I could have done such a thing as he had never fucked me over and just didn't see my messages because of 500 chats etc. etc. At this point I'm pretty fed up and done with it but he said they'd take care of it beginning of September. I message him almost daily and he "sees" the first few messages but never replies, up until yesterday he had not responded yet. Today, the 20th of September someone in the bounty group shares this image from the goma main telegram group: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnRvZVp9.jpg&t=665&c=ys366RgmeiSCYA) They send an email to that address and gets this reply: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKFmizrj.jpg&t=665&c=RaDul9E0X3XmOQ) This has never been communicated to me which just agains shows they'll always try and deflect and pin their ability (or lack thereof) on somebody else when they screw up. A few users have said they sent an email to the specified address and received part of their payment but others are reporting they get no reply, all sent within a similar timeframe. I'm still owed about 1 trillion GOMA tokens from the bounty management (it's a bit more) which right now is worth roughly 29 BNB.
I do not expect much to come from this. This is just a warning, do not invest in GOMA. Do not invest in TORII.FINANCE. If you ever come across the user "Dean" - Run away as fast as you can and don't enter into any dealings with him. Funny thing is I messaged him like 30 minutes ago saying I would make this thread as this has gone too far and lo and behold he became active and read my messages, only to clear our entire history and likely blocking me on Telegram right afterwards. Again, I don't create this threads very often so apologies for the formatting. Can take some time and make it look better as I'm sure others may come in and help me. I do not care about the money I'm owed, I counted those as lost long ago but I do not want anyone else to get involved with this obvious rug pull.
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Hhampuz (OP)
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What happened:: Goma team owed half bounty distribution. Scammers Profile Link: N/A Reference Link: Dean (Telegram @staysentient, Twitter https://twitter.com/deancannell) Amount Scammed: $15,000 Payment Method: GOMA token Proof of Payment: N/A PM/Chat Logs: N/A Additional Notes: This is just a warning, do not invest in GOMA. Do not invest in TORII.FINANCE.
So you didn't escrowed the bounty distribution first? I don't know how you can made an agreement and how he make you could trust him, but the risk still there. The Goma team are pump their own token to attract new investors +30% right now https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/goma-finance/ Since there's no GOMA representative account and announcement in this forum, we can't do much with this problem. I hope bounty hunters can also understand this problem, though it should be since there's no 100% guarantee about the payment.
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Kudos, Hhampuz. I remember GOMA but I can't be sure again if I ended up participating at the time, it's a long time. I must've felt since a reputable manager was incharge that all would go well or something close to that. I like the way you called GOMA out. This is what reputable managers do. At one time, CryptopreneurBrainboss also did same when a project he managed went rogue – [SCAM] Burst.Money project, scamming bounty manager and participants.It was the same thing those of us who participated in the DEGO bounty expected Fatemablabla to do when DEGO reneged on complete distribution to hardworking hunters. Sadly, Fatema went cold on the matter, leaving us to believe she connived with the team to defraud hunters. She hastily left her telegram bounty group and absconded from facing the responsibility of her actions till date. We need more of this call out to put these scums in check and help prevent others from getting caught in their web of deceit.
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What a coward.
He could have said that he is not happy with bounty results and at least make a comment why he is refusing to pay the second part of reward. Instead dev cowardly deleted everything (that is funny, because "What goes on the Internet, stays on the Internet") and blamed hunters for dropping token price. Year 2018-2019 ICO classics.
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TRUE BE TOLD, THIS Story remains the same everyday about bounty hunters and the project owners. pathetic. project owners will plead and smile during campaigns. promising heaven and earth to bounty managers and participants untill the project hits the market. it becomes a different story. abusive verbal exchanges and text chats will fill every where. with project owner abusing his trusted campaign manager. calling him sorts of Names.
For bounty hunters, this should be a lesson especially to the newbies flocking into bounties. project owners don't give any sh**t about your handwork. if the project fails, they create another one and pay a manger to do the job. the pattern has never changed. conduct a bounty. at the end, blame hunters for price movement. if the market favours them, the refused distribution. calming hunters will kill the project.
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So bad of the so called team, I see no reason why they will be gready with releasing funds to Hunter's who has worked so hard for them. And they try in one way or the other to accuse the team and make it seems it's totally their right to delay, or not to make payment. This is the first bounty which I have participated managed by Hhampuz which ends up not paying Hunter's. If the team can scam bounty Hunters and BM how much more investors?
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Goma team is the most worst team i have ever seen. So don't invest your money. All the team members are scammer. They can easily scam your money. So avoid this project.
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Goma team didn’t pay 2nd half that's very bad. We should take action. Goma team big scamer
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We don't want to see this type project in crypto space..Full Scam project of the year.Dont invest in goma.
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How did you link the TORII.FINANCE and the Goma token? This is interesting because if this is true then the two projects are potential rug pull projects after a bull market. Kudos, Hhampuz. I remember GOMA but I can't be sure again if I ended up participating at the time, it's a long time. I must've felt since a reputable manager was incharge that all would go well or something close to that. I like the way you called GOMA out. This is what reputable managers do. At one time, CryptopreneurBrainboss also did same when a project he managed went rogue – [SCAM] Burst.Money project, scamming bounty manager and participants.It was the same thing those of us who participated in the DEGO bounty expected Fatemablabla to do when DEGO reneged on complete distribution to hardworking hunters. Sadly, Fatema went cold on the matter, leaving us to believe she connived with the team to defraud hunters. She hastily left her telegram bounty group and absconded from facing the responsibility of her actions till date. We need more of this call out to put these scums in check and help prevent others from getting caught in their web of deceit. Fatema looks like she got paid and left instead of distributing the tokens. I could be wrong but so many complaints of her in the bounty group. Not saying she is a complete scam though but the team certainly should have constant communication since their business is not yet done. Ignoring messages alone plants doubt in our heads.
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Telegram ID @staysentient was used by member Jovovich here: @staysentient telegram
[ archive] Check his history. He sought Telegram shillers and mass invites during July and August. He also started multiple topics related to dextools ranking. When did the Goma project started? I can't find the ANN topic.
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Good job sir Hhampuz, you have spoken well and the action you take was the right action. At least if there is a single trust this would have not happen. They are trying to tarnish your reputation by not replying your messages and laying to Hunters that they informed you. They owed your money and refuse to pay 50% bounty rewards, this project didn't deserve trust anymore.
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September 23, 2021, 09:34:31 AM Last edit: September 23, 2021, 02:27:20 PM by Jovovich |
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To everyone in this group... Respectfully, the below message is not the case and is not true. Yes, there were delays in payment - we apologize for that, but GOMA has been making payments EVERY SINGLE DAY to bounty hunters since the emails started coming in... EVERY SINGLE DAY - there are alot of emails, and alot of bounty members, and we are making those payments DAILY! Again, we apologize for the delay GOMA TEAM bounty@gomatoken.comPS: Hhampuz is an exccellent bounty manager, and there is no disrespect intended toward him or anyone else... please just give a little bit nore time ffor the payments, we are doing it DAILY I rarely, if ever, make threads like these but this time the amount of shady actions is just too overwhelming for me to look the other way. Long story short I ran a bounty for GOMA some time ago and as always with a lot of bounties when payday comes around there's a bunch of issues/delays. The owner of GOMA stopped responding to me and only when I brought up issues in the bounty group he would get back to me and be like "omg duude I'm in like 500 chats wtf why would you slander all that I've worked for just because I didn't respond to you ASAP!?" and things like that. Either way. About half the bounty ($15,000) was paid out according to the timeframe that had been set beforehand. It was not without issues and this guy "Dean" (Telegram @staysentient, Twitter https://twitter.com/deancannell), would complain to me about how the bounty was the worst decision he had ever made as all the hunters were just killing the price and he had to use up a lot of resources to "save" it. The funny thing here is that a couple of days before the price had started to dump already (likely from him selling) and he/the goma team as well as his 2nd project Torii.finance (which he'll claim is someone elses project) would blame the bounty alone for this dumpening. Fast forward a bit and I'm asking Dean about the 2nd payment and the other 50%, when it will happen and how it'll go. He does not respond to me for a week at which point my inbox starts blowing up from all the bounty participants so I give them his telegram and he instantly responds to me, again with the same disbelief of how I could have done such a thing as he had never fucked me over and just didn't see my messages because of 500 chats etc. etc. At this point I'm pretty fed up and done with it but he said they'd take care of it beginning of September. I message him almost daily and he "sees" the first few messages but never replies, up until yesterday he had not responded yet. Today, the 20th of September someone in the bounty group shares this image from the goma main telegram group: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnRvZVp9.jpg&t=665&c=ys366RgmeiSCYA) They send an email to that address and gets this reply: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKFmizrj.jpg&t=665&c=RaDul9E0X3XmOQ) This has never been communicated to me which just agains shows they'll always try and deflect and pin their ability (or lack thereof) on somebody else when they screw up. A few users have said they sent an email to the specified address and received part of their payment but others are reporting they get no reply, all sent within a similar timeframe. I'm still owed about 1 trillion GOMA tokens from the bounty management (it's a bit more) which right now is worth roughly 29 BNB.
I do not expect much to come from this. This is just a warning, do not invest in GOMA. Do not invest in TORII.FINANCE. If you ever come across the user "Dean" - Run away as fast as you can and don't enter into any dealings with him. Funny thing is I messaged him like 30 minutes ago saying I would make this thread as this has gone too far and lo and behold he became active and read my messages, only to clear our entire history and likely blocking me on Telegram right afterwards. Again, I don't create this threads very often so apologies for the formatting. Can take some time and make it look better as I'm sure others may come in and help me. I do not care about the money I'm owed, I counted those as lost long ago but I do not want anyone else to get involved with this obvious rug pull.
We will continue doing the bounty payments, even though this thread is up... its very sad... but if the price goes to zero, mthen the bounty payments will be worth nothing at all again, we understand the frustration - but as mentioned, we are making the payments every day, and there are thousands of people. PLease please have patience SINCERELY, GOMA To everyone in this group... Respectfully, the below message is not the case and is not true. Yes, there were delays in payment - we apologize for that, but GOMA has been making payments EVERY SINGLE DAY to bounty hunters since the emails started coming in... EVERY SINGLE DAY - there are alot of emails, and alot of bounty members, and we are making those payments DAILY! Again, we apologize for the delay GOMA TEAM bounty@gomatoken.comPS: Hhampuz is an exccellent bounty manager, and there is no disrespect intended toward him or anyone else... please just give a little bit nore time ffor the payments, we are doing it DAILY I rarely, if ever, make threads like these but this time the amount of shady actions is just too overwhelming for me to look the other way. Long story short I ran a bounty for GOMA some time ago and as always with a lot of bounties when payday comes around there's a bunch of issues/delays. The owner of GOMA stopped responding to me and only when I brought up issues in the bounty group he would get back to me and be like "omg duude I'm in like 500 chats wtf why would you slander all that I've worked for just because I didn't respond to you ASAP!?" and things like that. Either way. About half the bounty ($15,000) was paid out according to the timeframe that had been set beforehand. It was not without issues and this guy "Dean" (Telegram @staysentient, Twitter https://twitter.com/deancannell), would complain to me about how the bounty was the worst decision he had ever made as all the hunters were just killing the price and he had to use up a lot of resources to "save" it. The funny thing here is that a couple of days before the price had started to dump already (likely from him selling) and he/the goma team as well as his 2nd project Torii.finance (which he'll claim is someone elses project) would blame the bounty alone for this dumpening. Fast forward a bit and I'm asking Dean about the 2nd payment and the other 50%, when it will happen and how it'll go. He does not respond to me for a week at which point my inbox starts blowing up from all the bounty participants so I give them his telegram and he instantly responds to me, again with the same disbelief of how I could have done such a thing as he had never fucked me over and just didn't see my messages because of 500 chats etc. etc. At this point I'm pretty fed up and done with it but he said they'd take care of it beginning of September. I message him almost daily and he "sees" the first few messages but never replies, up until yesterday he had not responded yet. Today, the 20th of September someone in the bounty group shares this image from the goma main telegram group: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnRvZVp9.jpg&t=665&c=ys366RgmeiSCYA) They send an email to that address and gets this reply: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKFmizrj.jpg&t=665&c=RaDul9E0X3XmOQ) This has never been communicated to me which just agains shows they'll always try and deflect and pin their ability (or lack thereof) on somebody else when they screw up. A few users have said they sent an email to the specified address and received part of their payment but others are reporting they get no reply, all sent within a similar timeframe. I'm still owed about 1 trillion GOMA tokens from the bounty management (it's a bit more) which right now is worth roughly 29 BNB.
I do not expect much to come from this. This is just a warning, do not invest in GOMA. Do not invest in TORII.FINANCE. If you ever come across the user "Dean" - Run away as fast as you can and don't enter into any dealings with him. Funny thing is I messaged him like 30 minutes ago saying I would make this thread as this has gone too far and lo and behold he became active and read my messages, only to clear our entire history and likely blocking me on Telegram right afterwards. Again, I don't create this threads very often so apologies for the formatting. Can take some time and make it look better as I'm sure others may come in and help me. I do not care about the money I'm owed, I counted those as lost long ago but I do not want anyone else to get involved with this obvious rug pull. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]
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I can't even believe you are from the goma team @Jovovich. The way Dean handled all of this and ended by clearing our entire telegram history, even though he still owed me money, makes me not want to touch goma with a stick. A project is only as good as its leaders and while you have Dean there, you're destined to be doomed.
Also, "thousands of participants" is simply jot true. You have the sheet, all is there to be verified and payments were meant to start on the 1st of September. You couldn't even give me the courtesy of letting me know about that stupid email system. Not to mention some of your "admins" or devs, whatever, have been spreading false info throughout. One that has been circulating on telegram is that you sent me the tokena for the payouts meaning you had nothing to do with delays - shitty practices by a bad team where communication seems to be non existent. I told Dean I'd take this a bit more personal as he annoyed me and I intend to stand by that.
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September 23, 2021, 09:50:57 AM Last edit: September 23, 2021, 02:27:03 PM by Jovovich |
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TO EVERYONE: The reality is that the more FUD is spread, the less the bounties will be worth And they are being paid every single day... lets work together to rather spread optimism rather than pessimism even though everyoone is frustrated. Thank you for the cooperation. GOMA TEAM To everyone in this group... Respectfully, the below message is not the case and is not true. Yes, there were delays in payment - we apologize for that, but GOMA has been making payments EVERY SINGLE DAY to bounty hunters since the emails started coming in... EVERY SINGLE DAY - there are alot of emails, and alot of bounty members, and we are making those payments DAILY! Again, we apologize for the delay GOMA TEAM bounty@gomatoken.comPS: Hhampuz is an exccellent bounty manager, and there is no disrespect intended toward him or anyone else... please just give a little bit nore time ffor the payments, we are doing it DAILY I rarely, if ever, make threads like these but this time the amount of shady actions is just too overwhelming for me to look the other way. Long story short I ran a bounty for GOMA some time ago and as always with a lot of bounties when payday comes around there's a bunch of issues/delays. The owner of GOMA stopped responding to me and only when I brought up issues in the bounty group he would get back to me and be like "omg duude I'm in like 500 chats wtf why would you slander all that I've worked for just because I didn't respond to you ASAP!?" and things like that. Either way. About half the bounty ($15,000) was paid out according to the timeframe that had been set beforehand. It was not without issues and this guy "Dean" (Telegram @staysentient, Twitter https://twitter.com/deancannell), would complain to me about how the bounty was the worst decision he had ever made as all the hunters were just killing the price and he had to use up a lot of resources to "save" it. The funny thing here is that a couple of days before the price had started to dump already (likely from him selling) and he/the goma team as well as his 2nd project Torii.finance (which he'll claim is someone elses project) would blame the bounty alone for this dumpening. Fast forward a bit and I'm asking Dean about the 2nd payment and the other 50%, when it will happen and how it'll go. He does not respond to me for a week at which point my inbox starts blowing up from all the bounty participants so I give them his telegram and he instantly responds to me, again with the same disbelief of how I could have done such a thing as he had never fucked me over and just didn't see my messages because of 500 chats etc. etc. At this point I'm pretty fed up and done with it but he said they'd take care of it beginning of September. I message him almost daily and he "sees" the first few messages but never replies, up until yesterday he had not responded yet. Today, the 20th of September someone in the bounty group shares this image from the goma main telegram group: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnRvZVp9.jpg&t=665&c=ys366RgmeiSCYA) They send an email to that address and gets this reply: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKFmizrj.jpg&t=665&c=RaDul9E0X3XmOQ) This has never been communicated to me which just agains shows they'll always try and deflect and pin their ability (or lack thereof) on somebody else when they screw up. A few users have said they sent an email to the specified address and received part of their payment but others are reporting they get no reply, all sent within a similar timeframe. I'm still owed about 1 trillion GOMA tokens from the bounty management (it's a bit more) which right now is worth roughly 29 BNB.
I do not expect much to come from this. This is just a warning, do not invest in GOMA. Do not invest in TORII.FINANCE. If you ever come across the user "Dean" - Run away as fast as you can and don't enter into any dealings with him. Funny thing is I messaged him like 30 minutes ago saying I would make this thread as this has gone too far and lo and behold he became active and read my messages, only to clear our entire history and likely blocking me on Telegram right afterwards. Again, I don't create this threads very often so apologies for the formatting. Can take some time and make it look better as I'm sure others may come in and help me. I do not care about the money I'm owed, I counted those as lost long ago but I do not want anyone else to get involved with this obvious rug pull.
Hi there Hhampuz, Thank you for the reply - Thousands of EMAILS, not participants We are working through each and everyone of them. We understand that it is a frustrating and different process, unfortunately we had to do it this way. I will speak with Dean and find out more, but I can ssure you the bounties are being paid. Sincerely GOMA TEAM bounty@gomatoken.comI can't even believe you are from the goma team @Jovovich. The way Dean handled all of this and ended by clearing our entire telegram history, even though he still owed me money, makes me not want to touch goma with a stick. A project is only as good as its leaders and while you have Dean there, you're destined to be doomed.
Also, "thousands of participants" is simply jot true. You have the sheet, all is there to be verified and payments were meant to start on the 1st of September. You couldn't even give me the courtesy of letting me know about that stupid email system. Not to mention some of your "admins" or devs, whatever, have been spreading false info throughout. One that has been circulating on telegram is that you sent me the tokena for the payouts meaning you had nothing to do with delays - shitty practices by a bad team where communication seems to be non existent. I told Dean I'd take this a bit more personal as he annoyed me and I intend to stand by that.
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Yes, there were delays in payment - we apologize for that, but GOMA has been making payments EVERY SINGLE DAY to bounty hunters since the emails started coming in... <snip>
Does this mean that you don't pay bounty to participants until they send an email? Has this been announced from the beginning? The problem is that you failed to communicate regularly with your manager. Even if you're running a one-man show, answering bounty manager inquires should be your priority. Btw, stop unnecessary multi-posting and self-quoting.
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September 23, 2021, 10:10:07 AM Last edit: September 23, 2021, 02:26:40 PM by Jovovich |
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This is a fair point, and we understand, and are doing our best to rectify the situation We are busy paying everyone, we apologize for the delays Yes, there were delays in payment - we apologize for that, but GOMA has been making payments EVERY SINGLE DAY to bounty hunters since the emails started coming in... <snip>
Does this mean that you don't pay bounty to participants until they send an email? Has this been announced from the beginning? The problem is that you failed to communicate regularly with your manager. Even if you're running a one-man show, answering bounty manager inquires should be your priority. Btw, stop unnecessary multi-posting and self-quoting.
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September 23, 2021, 10:14:03 AM |
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@Jovovich you seem more concerned with pumping up the price than anything. You have an incompetent team running a project where you seem way out of your depths. This entire email thing is just another step which shows you're clueless. THERE IS A SPREADSHEET!
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Jovovich
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September 23, 2021, 10:22:57 AM |
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We understand - Dean has messaged you on Telegram to discuss And says rest assured either way, the bounties are being paid every single day. We appreciate the cooperation here. Sincerely, GOMA TEAM @Jovovich you seem more concerned with pumping up the price than anything. You have an incompetent team running a project where you seem way out of your depths. This entire email thing is just another step which shows you're clueless. THERE IS A SPREADSHEET!
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