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Title: [Badminton] Discussion Thread 2022
Post by: blue Snow on September 29, 2021, 03:15:19 AM
YONEX ALL ENGLAND OPEN BADMINTON CHAMPIONSHIPS 2022

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363034.msg59558453#msg59558453




Daihatsu Master Indonesia 2021

men's singles: Kento Momota vs Anders Antonsen
Women's singles: Akane Yamaguchi vs An Se-young
Men's doubles: Marcus Fernaldi Gideon and Kevin Sanjaya Sukamuljo VS Takuro Hoki and Yugo Kobayashi
Women's doubles: Jeong Na-eun and Kim Hye-jeong VS Nami Matsuyama and Chiharu Shida
Mixed doubles: Dechapol Puavaranukroh and Sapsiree Taerattanachai VS Tang Chun Man and Tse Ying Suet
 
Indonesia has only Men's doubles left, so far is our mainstay. we have to continue to improve the players, too many misunderstandings for each player such as mixed singles. Thailand is progressing rapidly, they have a team very solid as before and will have more advanced in the future.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Indonesia_Masters

for betting here: https://sportsbet.io/sports/badminton/matches/today





YONEX French Open 2021

Schedule 26 - 31 October

STADE PIERRE DE COUBERTIN in Paris

https://bwfworldtour.bwfbadminton.com/tournament/3972/yonex-french-open-2021/live/?tab=next

For betting here: https://sportsbet.io/sports/badminton/matches/today




Ended

THE WINNERS VICTOR DENMARK OPEN 2021

Men's singles: Viktor Axelsen (Denmark)
Women's singles: Akane Yamaguchi (Japan)
Men's doubles:   Takuro Hoki and Yugo Kobayashi (Japan)
Women's doubles: Huang Dongping and Zheng Yu (China)
Mixed doubles:   Yuta Watanabe and Arisa Higashino (Japan)





Thomas & Uber Cups 2021 Aarhus, Denmark

Ended

The winner

Uber cup 2021 : China

Thomas Cup 2021 : Indonesia




Ended

BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 live on Vantaa Finland, 26 September - 03 October 2021.

Winner :China

Runner Up : Japan

Semifinalis :Korea and Malaysia


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: rozak on September 29, 2021, 04:29:59 AM
I still believe Indonesia will perform very well in this tournament.
The 8 countries that attended were countries whose badminton growth was very well developed.
Indonesia is good but has strong rivals such as Malaysia, China, Taipei, and Japan.
Denmark is a strong country outside Asia in this tournament. Denmark may become an obstacle for the favorite country to win the Sudirman Cup 2021.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: Strongkored on September 29, 2021, 05:00:44 AM
-snip-
What your favorite country?-snip-
Of course Indonesia, but unfortunately Indonesia has only won this cup once, and there is still little doubt that Indonesia can win it.
I think this time Japan has a big chance to win besides China and South Korea who have won several times.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: Kittygalore on September 29, 2021, 05:21:13 AM
What does the NBFR mean?  Also, why is Taiwan named Taipei? My biggest bet on this tournament is going to be China, they're the most disciplined athletes there is and the most competitive of them all in my opinion. Are there sites already that offer odds for this tournament?


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: Bitinity on September 29, 2021, 07:19:06 AM
What does the NBFR mean?  Also, why is Taiwan named Taipei? My biggest bet on this tournament is going to be China, they're the most disciplined athletes there is and the most competitive of them all in my opinion. Are there sites already that offer odds for this tournament?

Not many sites providing badminton market but I can see few market in Stake https://prnt.sc/1u202x3 It is not a big tournament for badminton so it is understandable if you cant find many markets to bet or find many sites provides badminton.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: blue Snow on September 29, 2021, 07:53:00 AM
What does the NBFR mean?  Also, why is Taiwan named Taipei?

NBFR means National Badminton Federation of Russia
Taipei, I make it short from Chinese Taipei or the Popular name is Taiwan

Denmark is a strong country outside Asia in this tournament. Denmark may become an obstacle for the favorite country to win the Sudirman Cup 2021.

Live now, Indonesia vs Denmark. This match only determines who the group winner, because both was already qualified for the quarter-finals. that possible they will bring down the second player.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: bitzizzix on September 29, 2021, 08:27:18 AM
What does the NBFR mean?  Also, why is Taiwan named Taipei?

NBFR means National Badminton Federation of Russia
Taipei, I make it short from Chinese Taipei or the Popular name is Taiwan

Denmark is a strong country outside Asia in this tournament. Denmark may become an obstacle for the favorite country to win the Sudirman Cup 2021.

Live now, Indonesia vs Denmark. This match only determines who the group winner, because both was already qualified for the quarter-finals. that possible they will bring down the second player.
The Indonesian badminton team Putri Kusuma Wardani will face Denmark's Mia Blichfeldt in the last match of Group C Sudirman Cup and this match will be a match for the group winner.
and Denmark won in the first set with a score of 21 and Indonesia 11 and the match is in progress and the current score is Indonesia 10 and Denmark 9, the second set match becomes more interesting because they are both chasing points.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: YOSHIE on September 29, 2021, 08:33:17 AM
Yes, I watched the Sudirman Cup badminton tournament which was held in Finland from 29 September to 3 October, which was broadcast live by TVRI, So far as I can see China is also very active in this tournament, yes it is in Group A, because since Indonesia is in Group C, Of course Indonesia has to get rid of a few more countries to get to the final, now Denmark and the others are unknown, but for sure.

Of course, Indonesia has the best scores and achievements in international badminton tournaments, obviously I don't have support at this time and don't want to bet, because there are still many who have to be eliminated and qualify for the next round, maybe I will just stay and bet on the final, in the 2021 Sudirman Cup tournament this time.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: rozak on September 29, 2021, 08:37:29 AM
The Indonesian badminton team Putri Kusuma Wardani will face Denmark's Mia Blichfeldt in the last match of Group C Sudirman Cup and this match will be a match for the group winner.
and Denmark won in the first set with a score of 21 and Indonesia 11 and the match is in progress and the current score is Indonesia 10 and Denmark 9, the second set match becomes more interesting because they are both chasing points.
Wardani equalized 1-1.
This is very interesting, both of them continued to set 3.
Indonesia can win 2-0 over Denmark. hopefully  ;D


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: bitzizzix on September 29, 2021, 08:44:14 AM
The Indonesian badminton team Putri Kusuma Wardani will face Denmark's Mia Blichfeldt in the last match of Group C Sudirman Cup and this match will be a match for the group winner.
and Denmark won in the first set with a score of 21 and Indonesia 11 and the match is in progress and the current score is Indonesia 10 and Denmark 9, the second set match becomes more interesting because they are both chasing points.
Wardani equalized 1-1.
This is very interesting, both of them continued to set 3.
Indonesia can win 2-0 over Denmark. hopefully  ;D
Yes, hopefully Indonesia will win in the third set, but now Indonesia is far behind Denmark with a score of 3-11 and 8 points behind.
I hope Putri Kusuma Wardani from Indonesia can change the situation even though it's unlikely.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: ipanks on September 29, 2021, 08:44:54 AM
My favorite country is Indonesia and I hope the Indonesian badminton team can perform well as before. I expect to see a surprise from the team by giving a good result after they prepare after the last events. I see that some young talent can surprise us besides the other player that we know well before. You can read on https://bwfsudirmancup.bwfbadminton.com/news-single/2021/09/29/teen-prospects-get-the-stage-in-vantaa/.

But if the Indonesian team wants to be the winner, they must try hard because their rivals are not weak as them so it could be an interesting match to watch their performance in every match.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: rozak on September 29, 2021, 08:56:03 AM

Yes, hopefully Indonesia will win in the third set, but now Indonesia is far behind Denmark with a score of 3-11 and 8 points behind.
I hope Putri Kusuma Wardani from Indonesia can change the situation even though it's unlikely.
21-14 for Denmark. unfortunately Kusuma lost the moment at the beginning of set 3. it was not a problem, I was still amazed by his game.
now 1-1, we will see for match 3


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: blue Snow on September 30, 2021, 03:21:05 AM
Quarterfinal drawing on 1 October 2021, today still have the match, B and D groups for determining who a winner group.
 
Certainly, they should hard work for to be a winner group, that for meet a runner up group in Quarterfinal.
So far Indonesia (C Group) will meet a runner-up group A, B, or D. while Denmark meet a winner group.
In another group, China (A group) has done on 1st, while Thailand as 2nd.

Group A;
1. China
2. Thailand

Group C;
1. Indonesia
2. Demark

today match; B and D group.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: YOSHIE on September 30, 2021, 06:58:53 AM
Group A;
1. China
2. Thailand

Group C;
1. Indonesia
2. Demark

today match; B and D group.
I hope Indonesia will meet with China this time, what do you think, to be honest we have a commitment that cannot be said here about the badminton tournament in Finland this time, if indonesia vs. China.

Hopefully Indonesia can survive to the next round and against Group A, (China), the history of the Olympics in Tokyo, will be repeated in Finland this time, Don't ask what it is....(secret).



it will be more fun when watching them in the Finals.
Hit.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: ipanks on September 30, 2021, 07:04:48 AM
Quarterfinal drawing on 1 October 2021, today still have the match, B and D groups for determining who a winner group.
 
Certainly, they should hard work for to be a winner group, that for meet a runner up group in Quarterfinal.
So far Indonesia (C Group) will meet a runner-up group A, B, or D. while Denmark meet a winner group.
In another group, China (A group) has done on 1st, while Thailand as 2nd.

Group A;
1. China
2. Thailand

Group C;
1. Indonesia
2. Demark

today match; B and D group.
Hopefully, the Indonesian team can still give their best performance and beat the opponent, whether China, Denmark, or Malaysia. Those three countries are strong candidates with many good players. But Indonesian also have strong and high-skills players so players from those countries will not be easy to beat the Indonesian players. My prediction is that the Indonesian team can be the winner if their player can still sustain their performance and not underestimate their opponents.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: Victorycoin on September 30, 2021, 08:24:03 AM
Indonesia is the best in badminton and the best in the winning group they have worked hard and won many titles formerly china but now indonesia is the second country after china to win gold in every olympic badminton event. Indonesia has the second highest number of 6 gold medals in the olympics indonesia is the second best 22 gold in the world championship after china they are also in the asian games after china, this confirms that indonesia will do something special in the game.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: blue Snow on September 30, 2021, 09:01:31 AM
I hope Indonesia will meet with China this time, what do you think, to be honest we have a commitment that cannot be said here about the badminton tournament in Finland this time, if indonesia vs. China.

Hopefully Indonesia can survive to the next round and against Group A, (China), the history of the Olympics in Tokyo, will be repeated in Finland this time, Don't ask what it is....(secret).
I hope also, but better they meet in the next round, not on quarter finals. it will be more fun when watching them in the Finals.



we have to do not missing a young boy from Thailand, Kunlavut Vitidsarn. he makes surprised by defeats Shi Yu Qi with Straight Set, that is possible he will be the next rising star, he is still young and still has enough time to develop his talent. I'm curious to see him in the next match.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: alpamar99 on September 30, 2021, 10:16:24 AM
I still believe Indonesia will perform very well in this tournament.
The 8 countries that attended were countries whose badminton growth was very well developed.
Indonesia is good but has strong rivals such as Malaysia, China, Taipei, and Japan.
Denmark is a strong country outside Asia in this tournament. Denmark may become an obstacle for the favorite country to win the Sudirman Cup 2021.
Indonesia is indeed quite good in this badminton sport because there are indeed many athletes from Indonesia who are already known in the world and have even won several championships.
but in the sudirman cup I don't know why the Indonesian game is even a little monotonous and not good.
Of the 16 times the Sudirman Cup has been held, Indonesia has only tasted the title once, even though the Sudirman Cup was founded by Dick Sudirman, who is also one of the founders of the Indonesian Badminton Association (PBSI).
Let's wait for the results of the 17th Sudirman Cup, whether they are able to win or not


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: babygun on September 30, 2021, 10:23:34 AM
Indonesia is the best in badminton and the best in the winning group they have worked hard and won many titles formerly china but now indonesia is the second country after china to win gold in every olympic badminton event. Indonesia has the second highest number of 6 gold medals in the olympics indonesia is the second best 22 gold in the world championship after china they are also in the asian games after china, this confirms that indonesia will do something special in the game.

They are quite good and have good players (such as Ginting) but they are not the favorites to win the Sudirman cup. It is interesting that not a lot of people on here believe in the chances of Denmark as they are one of the favorites for me to win. They have Axelsen (reigning Olympic champion) and Antonsen in their ranks. 


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: mu_enrico on September 30, 2021, 11:40:39 AM
FYI, the past winners:
2001 > China
2003 > South Korea
2005 > China
2007 > China
2009 > China
2011 > China
2013 > China
2015 > China
2017 > South Korea
2019 > China

So China is still favorite, and Indonesia, Japan, South Korea are the strong contender. Hopefully Indonesia will meet China in the final, you know anything can happen in a final match.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: blue Snow on October 01, 2021, 11:01:42 AM
the quarter-finals team was drawn, China as winning A group meets Denmark as runner up B group, While Indonesia as winning C group will meet Malaysia as runner up D group. Interesting match Indonesia vs Malaysia was meet 27 times on other tournaments, so far Indonesia enough strong 21 won. We have optimism that can beat them because Indonesia has strong women's doubles, women's singles, and mixed doubles.

Another quarter-finals team:

- Korea vs Thailand

- Taipei vs Japan


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: panjul07 on October 01, 2021, 01:41:26 PM
the quarter-finals team was drawn, China as winning A group meets Denmark as runner up B group, While Indonesia as winning C group will meet Malaysia as runner up D group. Interesting match Indonesia vs Malaysia was meet 27 times on other tournaments, so far Indonesia enough strong 21 won. We have optimism that can beat them because Indonesia has strong women's doubles, women's singles, and mixed doubles.

Watching Indonesia vs Malaysia at the moment, first match between Gideon/Kevin vs Chia/Shoh. '
A little bit disappointed with the performance of Gideon/Kevin who is the world number 1 but do not play really well this time.
Their performance is not stable since there were less tournament during the pandemic.
They did not play good as well in the Olympic and seems that they need more tournament to rebuild their performance.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: rozak on October 01, 2021, 02:09:27 PM
the quarter-finals team was drawn, China as winning A group meets Denmark as runner up B group, While Indonesia as winning C group will meet Malaysia as runner up D group. Interesting match Indonesia vs Malaysia was meet 27 times on other tournaments, so far Indonesia enough strong 21 won. We have optimism that can beat them because Indonesia has strong women's doubles, women's singles, and mixed doubles.

Watching Indonesia vs Malaysia at the moment, first match between Gideon/Kevin vs Chia/Shoh. '
A little bit disappointed with the performance of Gideon/Kevin who is the world number 1 but do not play really well this time.
Their performance is not stable since there were less tournament during the pandemic.
They did not play good as well in the Olympic and seems that they need more tournament to rebuild their performance.
Indonesian men's doubles performances, Gideon/Kevin, did not perform so well in several tournaments that had just been undertaken during the pandemic. even though both of them performed quite well when they won against the Danish pair. and for now, Indonesia must recognize the advantage of Malaysia 1-0.
Next is women's single, hopefully, Mariska will win.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: blue Snow on October 03, 2021, 01:01:47 AM
the quarter-finals team was drawn, China as winning A group meets Denmark as runner up B group, While Indonesia as winning C group will meet Malaysia as runner up D group. Interesting match Indonesia vs Malaysia was meet 27 times on other tournaments, so far Indonesia enough strong 21 won. We have optimism that can beat them because Indonesia has strong women's doubles, women's singles, and mixed doubles.

Watching Indonesia vs Malaysia at the moment, first match between Gideon/Kevin vs Chia/Shoh. '
A little bit disappointed with the performance of Gideon/Kevin who is the world number 1 but do not play really well this time.
Their performance is not stable since there were less tournament during the pandemic.
They did not play good as well in the Olympic and seems that they need more tournament to rebuild their performance.
Indonesian men's doubles performances, Gideon/Kevin, did not perform so well in several tournaments that had just been undertaken during the pandemic. even though both of them performed quite well when they won against the Danish pair. and for now, Indonesia must recognize the advantage of Malaysia 1-0.
Next is women's single, hopefully, Mariska will win.

Indonesia was eliminated, nothing more to expect. Malaysia is quite strong enough, they have talented players than before. Mixed doubler we have seeded unexpected loss. they need practice and experience International games, maybe didn't fit yet like poli and rahayu.

We have to Final!. Japan vs China, today 3 October 2021.

Japan success to beat Malaysia on Semifinal : 3 - 1, while China success against Korea 3-0.
This final to 14th china in a row. this still proves them as king of Badminton.

there is no other way, I bet China at the moment.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: rozak on October 03, 2021, 03:42:38 AM
Indonesia was eliminated, nothing more to expect. Malaysia is quite strong enough, they have talented players than before. Mixed doubler we have seeded unexpected loss. they need practice and experience International games, maybe didn't fit yet like poli and rahayu.

We have to Final!. Japan vs China, today 3 October 2021.

Japan success to beat Malaysia on Semifinal : 3 - 1, while China success against Korea 3-0.
This final to 14th china in a row. this still proves them as king of Badminton.

there is no other way, I bet China at the moment.
Unfortunately, Indonesia did not qualify for the final. I think Indonesia can fight China in the Final. but there will always be something that is not to our liking.

Japan and China, is there a site to place a bet on this match with the full game?
I saw some matches yesterday on the Betja.com site, but not for the full match.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: Strongkored on October 03, 2021, 01:28:25 PM
Quite disappointed to see the results from Indonesia did not expect that they will lose in the round which is still relatively early, I think they will be able to advanced to the semifinals but unfortunately the players who are considered can give points actually play under their best performance.
Even Christian Hadinata as one Indonesian badminton legends commented on Markus/Kevin's performance which was very under their performance. source (http://Even Christian Hadinata as one of the legends of Indonesian badminton commented on Markus/Kevin's performance which was very under their performance)

Final Japan vs China, China is trying to get this trophy for the 12th, while Japan if win this is will be for the first time.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: bitzizzix on October 03, 2021, 02:15:33 PM
Quite disappointed to see the results from Indonesia did not expect that they will lose in the round which is still relatively early, I think they will be able to advanced to the semifinals but unfortunately the players who are considered can give points actually play under their best performance.
Even Christian Hadinata as one Indonesian badminton legends commented on Markus/Kevin's performance which was very under their performance. source (http://Even Christian Hadinata as one of the legends of Indonesian badminton commented on Markus/Kevin's performance which was very under their performance)

Final Japan vs China, China is trying to get this trophy for the 12th, while Japan if win this is will be for the first time.
Kevin Sanjaya/Marcus Gideon are the men's doubles players who are the mainstay of Indonesia, and I see their game on you tube is very good and maybe their performance is currently experiencing a decline.
And it must be admitted that Malaysian men's doubles players Aaron Chia/Soh Wooi were better than them and were able to beat two rounds with a landslide score of 12-21 and 15-21.

The Japan vs China final is underway and it looks like China is better than Japan.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: babygun on October 03, 2021, 08:42:18 PM
China just won another Sudirman cup by beating Japan with 3-1 in the final. Most surprising result for me, was in the Men's single with the loss of world number 1 Momota against Shi Yu Qi.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: blue Snow on October 04, 2021, 02:33:45 AM
Congratulation to China, (just won a bit bet)

This is 12th for champions. they created the winner; 1995, 1997, 1999, 2001, 2005, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2013, 2015, 2019, dan now, 2021. they defend the title. Shi Yu Qi was quite satisfied to defeat No.1 player Kento Momota. It's a treatment for him after lose versus young player Thailand, Kunlavut Vitidsarn several days ago.

Chen Qing Chen/Jia Yi Fan women's double who make sure china wins 3 - 1. I remembered Polli/Rahayu defeat them in the Olympic final Tokyo, and Now they created an achievement as a determinant.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: Strongkored on October 04, 2021, 07:06:28 AM
China is very strong in Sudirman Cup final, it can even be said that in all the trophies they have always achieved good results, Japan must have hoped to get a point from Momota but unfortunately he lost.
I only watched the 4th match in the women's doubles, the second set when the Japanese doubles could equalize 7-7, I think they are very likely to win in this set and there will be a third set, but the Chinese pair played well.
Congratulations to China they deserve it, next is Thomas and Uber Cup.


Title: Re: [Badminton] BWF Sudirman Cup 2021 Discussion Thread
Post by: Doell on October 08, 2021, 08:50:53 AM
https://bwfsudirmancup.bwfbadminton.com/results/3966/totalenergies-bwf-sudirman-cup-2021/podium
Indonesia didn't get on the podium I'm very disappointed but the players have worked very well so I don't blame the players ,disappointed that my country didn't win thats it ,Congratulations to China I recognizing its greatness sorry for not watching because the television at my house has been suppressed by the soap opera doom


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: blue Snow on October 11, 2021, 02:17:54 AM
Bump,

I changed the topic into Thomas & Uber Cups 2021, I want to moderate this topic into Badminton Discussion Thread also.

The result:

Thomas Cup

THAILAND vs CHINESE TAIPEI : 3-2
KOREA vs GERMANY ; 4-1
DENMARK vs FRANCE ; 5-0
INDONESIA vs ALGERIA ; 5-0
JAPAN vs CANADA ; 4-1
INDIA vs NETHERLANDS ; 5-0
CHINA vs TAHITI ; 5-0

Uber Cup

CHINA vs CANADA ; 5-0
INDONESIA vs GERMANY ; 4-1
JAPAN vs FRANCE ; 5-0
DENMARK vs MALAYSIA ; 4-1
KOREA vs TAHITI ; 5-0
INDIA vs SPAIN ; 3-2
THAILAND vs SCOTLAND ; 5-0
CHINESE TAIPEI vs EGYPT ; 5-0
CHINA vs MALAYSIA ; 5-0
DENMARK vs CANADA ; 4-1

Today still have the match Thomas (A and B group), Uber (A,C and D Group)

https://bwfthomasubercups.bwfbadminton.com/results/4230/totalenergies-bwf-thomas-uber-cup-finals-2020-new-dates/2021-10-11



Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: bitzizzix on October 11, 2021, 03:00:09 AM
Uber Indonesia will face the power of France in the second match of Group A which I think must remain vigilant because France's strength is so evenly distributed, both in the singles and doubles sector, they have tenacious and unyielding players. but I believe Indonesia will beat France like Indonesia beat Germany 4-1.
and for Thomas, Indonesia is currently at the top of Group A of the 2020 Thomas Cup, and in the second match later, Indonesia will meet Thailand which must be watched out for because they have made a surprise by defeating Chinese Taipei. and Indonesia must deploy its best and most prepared forces.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Strongkored on October 11, 2021, 05:33:46 AM
Looking at the list of groups where the Thomas and Uber Indonesia teams are, they shouldn't have any trouble advancing to the next round.
For Uber, the toughest opponent is Japan, while for Thomas, China Taipei and Thailand it might be difficult, but with 2 Indonesian men's doubles, which are still the best in the world, they should be able to give points.
I really hope that the current Indonesian Uber team can give surprises.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Doell on October 11, 2021, 06:22:25 AM
Uber women's doubles interesting ,Greysia not play today vs france and replaced by Putri SYAIKAH after win vs germany october 9 and today "Apriyani/Putri will meet Margot Lambert/Anne Tran" coach ID rests important player looks like this match will look interesting to watch ,french is strong evenly even apriyani also said that
Quote
"The French team's strength is very evenly distributed. Therefore, I ask my colleagues to always be vigilant. As against Germany, we must not be careless,"
said Apriyani Rahayu in a press release of Public Relations of PBSI sunday on october 10


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: blue Snow on October 13, 2021, 01:34:39 AM
Updated the result until today,

Thomas cup, Indonesia on A group has been pass to the next round. Korea and Denmark on B group also have been to the next round.
On C group China and India are available for the next round. D group still waiting for the end of the round.

Uber cup, Japan and Indonesia on A group have been to pass to the next round, Thailand and India on B group also have been to the next round.
On C group Korea and Taiwan are available for the next round. on D group China and Denmark also Pass to the next round.

Seems not much different with the Sudirman Cup.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: mu_enrico on October 13, 2021, 02:04:32 PM
The only chance of Indonesia to win a cup is in Thomas Cup (but still not favorite IMO), while Uber Cup is pretty much in China's hand. Yes, not much change in Thomas Cup, almost always the same countries. But, in Uber Cup we see India and Thailand breaking the barrier in the last 10 years. Anyway, too much internal problems for Indonesia to reclaim its superiority in badminton. So, I advise you guys not to get too disappointed if they don't perform well.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: ChiBitCTy on October 13, 2021, 02:49:21 PM
I had no idea there was a badminton thread here, and kind of surprised that there is a professional /global league.  That being said, I absolutely love this game.  In high school we used to play badminton for about a month, every day.  We would first play games for fun, then held a tournament and the winner would then face out teacher lol.  Unfortunately no one has ever beaten him lol. 


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on October 13, 2021, 02:51:00 PM
The only chance of Indonesia to win a cup is in Thomas Cup (but still not favorite IMO), while Uber Cup is pretty much in China's hand. Yes, not much change in Thomas Cup, almost always the same countries. But, in Uber Cup we see India and Thailand breaking the barrier in the last 10 years. Anyway, too much internal problems for Indonesia to reclaim its superiority in badminton. So, I advise you guys not to get too disappointed if they don't perform well.
That's true, it's a shame even though Indonesian badminton players have very good abilities because of internal problems within the federation so that Indonesian badminton seems to just walk in place without progress.
I see this year still with the same dominance as before without any significant changes, China and Japan will be great competitors to win the championship in both the Thomas and Uber cup.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: xmonkeyx on October 13, 2021, 02:58:41 PM
The only chance of Indonesia to win a cup is in Thomas Cup (but still not favorite IMO), while Uber Cup is pretty much in China's hand. Yes, not much change in Thomas Cup, almost always the same countries. But, in Uber Cup we see India and Thailand breaking the barrier in the last 10 years. Anyway, too much internal problems for Indonesia to reclaim its superiority in badminton. So, I advise you guys not to get too disappointed if they don't perform well.
That's true, it's a shame even though Indonesian badminton players have very good abilities because of internal problems within the federation so that Indonesian badminton seems to just walk in place without progress.
I see this year still with the same dominance as before without any significant changes, China and Japan will be great competitors to win the championship in both the Thomas and Uber cup.
Team Uber Thailand should not be underestimated, they have progressed very fast and they just beat India by a landslide score.
I hope there will be a surprise this year for the new champion, it's boring to see only China and Japan competing for the trophy.
maybe Uber will be won by Thailand and Thomas will be won by Indonesia. hopefully so  ;D


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: panjul07 on October 13, 2021, 03:17:46 PM
The only chance of Indonesia to win a cup is in Thomas Cup (but still not favorite IMO), while Uber Cup is pretty much in China's hand. Yes, not much change in Thomas Cup, almost always the same countries. But, in Uber Cup we see India and Thailand breaking the barrier in the last 10 years. Anyway, too much internal problems for Indonesia to reclaim its superiority in badminton. So, I advise you guys not to get too disappointed if they don't perform well.

Looking at how the Indonesian Thomas team so far, I would not expect too much.
Aside from the internal problems, player's consistency is also another problem.
Our players can show great performance in a match but they show very bad performance in the next mactch or vice versa.
We will not be disappointed as long as we do not have too high expectation, we should appreciate them whatever the result as I believe most players will always try their best for their country.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: izsara on October 13, 2021, 08:47:35 PM
The only chance of Indonesia to win a cup is in Thomas Cup (but still not favorite IMO), while Uber Cup is pretty much in China's hand. Yes, not much change in Thomas Cup, almost always the same countries. But, in Uber Cup we see India and Thailand breaking the barrier in the last 10 years. Anyway, too much internal problems for Indonesia to reclaim its superiority in badminton. So, I advise you guys not to get too disappointed if they don't perform well.

Looking at how the Indonesian Thomas team so far, I would not expect too much.
Aside from the internal problems, player's consistency is also another problem.
Our players can show great performance in a match but they show very bad performance in the next mactch or vice versa.
We will not be disappointed as long as we do not have too high expectation, we should appreciate them whatever the result as I believe most players will always try their best for their country.

Even when I saw the line-up for the match against Japan a few days ago, I thought about whether they deliberately wanted to lose the match.
Uber athletes who competed against Japan yesterday in fact they are new players and indeed in terms of ranking they lost far from Japan.
and the result was in line with expectations, they lost by a landslide.
I don't know what happened to Indonesia in this year's championship but for sure it's true what you said, don't have high expectations this season


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Strongkored on October 14, 2021, 06:28:57 AM
The Uber Indonesia team will face Thailand, Indonesia team not the favorite in this match but I still hope that Indonesia can reach the semifinals by beating Thailand, Polii/Apriyani should be able to give one point. It is very possible for Thailand to play Intanon as the main single.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: watergold on October 15, 2021, 04:40:29 PM
The Uber Indonesia team will face Thailand, Indonesia team not the favorite in this match but I still hope that Indonesia can reach the semifinals by beating Thailand, Polii/Apriyani should be able to give one point. It is very possible for Thailand to play Intanon as the main single.
It was a pretty good match but Thailand was ahead with a score of 3-2 and they deserved the next round.
the end of the uber indonesia team. what are their current barriers? is the uber team expecting too much of a doubles partner?
because when you see them playing solo Indonesia, it's like losing in any case, both strategy and stamina.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: panjul07 on October 15, 2021, 04:55:23 PM
The Uber Indonesia team will face Thailand, Indonesia team not the favorite in this match but I still hope that Indonesia can reach the semifinals by beating Thailand, Polii/Apriyani should be able to give one point. It is very possible for Thailand to play Intanon as the main single.
It was a pretty good match but Thailand was ahead with a score of 3-2 and they deserved the next round.
the end of the uber indonesia team. what are their current barriers? is the uber team expecting too much of a doubles partner?
because when you see them playing solo Indonesia, it's like losing in any case, both strategy and stamina.

The regeneration process for the Women Single in Indonesia is not working well.
There is no Indonesian single women who have great skills and stamina as what is used to be shown by one of Indonesian Single Women Legend "Susi Susanti".
I believe there are so many talented players in Indonesia but I have no idea why the Indonesian Badminton federation (PBSI) is not able to find and train the young talented players.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Silver80 on October 16, 2021, 12:04:43 AM
The Uber Indonesia team will face Thailand, Indonesia team not the favorite in this match but I still hope that Indonesia can reach the semifinals by beating Thailand, Polii/Apriyani should be able to give one point. It is very possible for Thailand to play Intanon as the main single.
It was a pretty good match but Thailand was ahead with a score of 3-2 and they deserved the next round.
the end of the uber indonesia team. what are their current barriers? is the uber team expecting too much of a doubles partner?
because when you see them playing solo Indonesia, it's like losing in any case, both strategy and stamina.

The regeneration process for the Women Single in Indonesia is not working well.
There is no Indonesian single women who have great skills and stamina as what is used to be shown by one of Indonesian Single Women Legend "Susi Susanti".
I believe there are so many talented players in Indonesia but I have no idea why the Indonesian Badminton federation (PBSI) is not able to find and train the young talented players.


Yea, if it's women's singles, no one has matched the legend of "Susi Susanti" but Indonesia has other heroes that have existed even though they don't match "Susi Susanti", such as Mia Audina, Maria Kristin Yulianti, Fitriani and Gregoria Mariska Tunjung.  the legend himself did not immediately become great at first, even Indonesia did not become a favorite in badminton before Susi Susanti won it.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Strongkored on October 16, 2021, 04:40:59 AM
The Uber Indonesia team will face Thailand, Indonesia team not the favorite in this match but I still hope that Indonesia can reach the semifinals by beating Thailand, Polii/Apriyani should be able to give one point. It is very possible for Thailand to play Intanon as the main single.
It was a pretty good match but Thailand was ahead with a score of 3-2 and they deserved the next round.
the end of the uber indonesia team. what are their current barriers? is the uber team expecting too much of a doubles partner?
I couldn't watch this match and only see the final score, to be honest I was quite disappointed with the result even though I realized that Uber Indonesia was the underdogs team but the defeat still hurts.

As Panjul07 has said, the regeneration in the women's single is not going well and strangely it has been running even decades after Susi Susanti retired, there is still no change in regeneration.

because when you see them playing solo Indonesia, it's like losing in any case, both strategy and stamina.

Actually, it's not only stamina and strategy but also mentality, if look at last single match in second set Ester seems to have lost motivation, her mentality not strong enough to bear the pressure because of the defeat in the first set and become the last hope for Indonesia to win.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: ipanks on October 16, 2021, 06:15:46 AM
The Uber Indonesia team will face Thailand, Indonesia team not the favorite in this match but I still hope that Indonesia can reach the semifinals by beating Thailand, Polii/Apriyani should be able to give one point. It is very possible for Thailand to play Intanon as the main single.
It was a pretty good match but Thailand was ahead with a score of 3-2 and they deserved the next round.
the end of the uber indonesia team. what are their current barriers? is the uber team expecting too much of a doubles partner?
I couldn't watch this match and only see the final score, to be honest I was quite disappointed with the result even though I realized that Uber Indonesia was the underdogs team but the defeat still hurts.

As Panjul07 has said, the regeneration in the women's single is not going well and strangely it has been running even decades after Susi Susanti retired, there is still no change in regeneration.
Indeed. Maybe that is because it is hard to reach the requirement from the Indonesian Badminton Federation (PBSI) so the regeneration is not working good for the women's badminton team. It needs more to find another "Susi Susanti" or "Alan Budikusuma" or even "Icuk Sugiharto." Still, I believe that they will find some young talent who can bring glory to Indonesia.

because when you see them playing solo Indonesia, it's like losing in any case, both strategy and stamina.

Actually, it's not only stamina and strategy but also mentality, if look at last single match in second set Ester seems to have lost motivation, her mentality not strong enough to bear the pressure because of the defeat in the first set and become the last hope for Indonesia to win.
In badminton, mental takes a big part to control the field and forcing the opponent and if they do not have control over their emotion, they can lose before they fight.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: watergold on October 16, 2021, 05:28:56 PM
It was a pretty good match but Thailand was ahead with a score of 3-2 and they deserved the next round.
the end of the uber indonesia team. what are their current barriers? is the uber team expecting too much of a doubles partner?
because when you see them playing solo Indonesia, it's like losing in any case, both strategy and stamina.
The regeneration process for the Women Single in Indonesia is not working well.
There is no Indonesian single women who have great skills and stamina as what is used to be shown by one of Indonesian Single Women Legend "Susi Susanti".
I believe there are so many talented players in Indonesia but I have no idea why the Indonesian Badminton federation (PBSI) is not able to find and train the young talented players.
When talking about regeneration, I think Indonesia has a lot of potential gems in each region whose existence has not been revealed, because Indonesia is indeed very broad and it is true that here PBSI should be able to carry out the selection properly because Indonesia actually benefits from a country that is arguably very vast and impossible, from the vastness of this country there is no gem that will be able to shine in the place of the legends of yesteryear.

Actually, it's not only stamina and strategy but also mentality, if look at last single match in second set Ester seems to have lost motivation, her mentality not strong enough to bear the pressure because of the defeat in the first set and become the last hope for Indonesia to win.
This is still a problem that haunts Indonesian athletes from a few years ago.
I don't know if there is something wrong with the training system or if they are too relaxed because they look at past history for sure that athletes in Indonesia have always lost in the things you mentioned.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on October 16, 2021, 09:55:09 PM
-snip-
When talking about Uber Indonesia, yeah, unfortunately, the women team of Indonesia doesn't have very great generation.
So far, women double GreyAp is the most that we can only believe to have good performance. But for the single, well, we know how they are.

But for the man team, in this Thomas cup, they have really done a very great job, until finally they could beat Denmark and will face China as the defending champion.
I personally certainly look forward to this final match and hope that Thomas Indonesia players can play optimally and well. Because after all, China is not a weak opponent. This team consists of various world top players, especially they have defeated the Japan team and certainly raises their enthusiasm and confidence.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: blue Snow on October 17, 2021, 04:08:51 AM
We have the final here; Uber and Thomas cup 2021

Uber: China vs Japan
Thomas: Indonesia vs China

So far China still favorite to have combine Thomas and Uber, but for Thomas they have strong opponent, Indonesia have stable player every line on paper, each players standing on top 10 BWF Rank, Ginting and Jonathan stand on 5th and 7th rank, Mens double; have top 1st and 2nd ranks. while China only have Shi Yuqi on rank 10, Mens double; only have 4th rank. Single, Both (Ginting and Shi Yuqi) meet in opening Final Thomas cup 2021 to night.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on October 17, 2021, 06:25:52 AM
We have the final here; Uber and Thomas cup 2021

Uber: China vs Japan
Thomas: Indonesia vs China

So far China still favorite to have combine Thomas and Uber, but for Thomas they have strong opponent, Indonesia have stable player every line on paper, each players standing on top 10 BWF Rank, Ginting and Jonathan stand on 5th and 7th rank, Mens double; have top 1st and 2nd ranks. while China only have Shi Yuqi on rank 10, Mens double; only have 4th rank. Single, Both (Ginting and Shi Yuqi) meet in opening Final Thomas cup 2021 to night.

Uber China team is still very strong at the moment but not with Team Thomas China, I think Indonesia has a very big chance to win it, judging from the players and ranking BWF Indonesia is far superior in both singles and doubles.
Currently China's regeneration is still not very good after being left by several senior players such as Lin and Cheng Long, there are no other Chinese players who appear with the same strength. Except for Shi Yuqi, he can't be consistent because of the injury he suffered.
I saw that during the match against Japan Shi yuqi was injured and if he couldn't play in the final it would be a very big advantage for the Thomas Indonesia team.
Team Thomas Indonesia had doubts at the beginning of this tournament but now they have proven it by successfully entering the final round.
I think they will win it. hopefully so.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Bitinity on October 17, 2021, 08:53:40 AM
We have the final here; Uber and Thomas cup 2021

Uber: China vs Japan
Thomas: Indonesia vs China

So far China still favorite to have combine Thomas and Uber, but for Thomas they have strong opponent, Indonesia have stable player every line on paper, each players standing on top 10 BWF Rank, Ginting and Jonathan stand on 5th and 7th rank, Mens double; have top 1st and 2nd ranks. while China only have Shi Yuqi on rank 10, Mens double; only have 4th rank. Single, Both (Ginting and Shi Yuqi) meet in opening Final Thomas cup 2021 to night.

On paper, Indonesian players are above China but we should not underestimate China. China is still China with its great history and domination in Badminton. Ginting for example, he could play well against Chou T.Ch and Lee Z J but he played very bad last night against Axelsen.
Anyway, here are the line ups for the Final (found it in our local sports news) as well as in Flashscore.com:
  • Anthony Ginting vs  Lu Guang Zu
  • Fajar/Rian vs He Ji Ting/Zhou Hao Dong
  • Jonatan Christie vs Li Shi Feng
  • Daniel Marthin/Kevin Sanjaya vs Liu Cheng/Wang Yi Lyu
  • Vito vs Weng Hong Yang

There is no Minions and the Daddies for the Doubles Men. I'm not sure why but it seems that the Indonesian head coach is confidence enough to win the Final without our best players for the Doubles Men. Even there is an experiment by having Daniel Martin and Kevin Sanjaya for the 2nd Doubles Men. Lets see how it goes, hope it wont be a blunder.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Silver80 on October 17, 2021, 01:29:09 PM
We have the final here; Uber and Thomas cup 2021

Uber: China vs Japan
Thomas: Indonesia vs China

So far China still favorite to have combine Thomas and Uber, but for Thomas they have strong opponent, Indonesia have stable player every line on paper, each players standing on top 10 BWF Rank, Ginting and Jonathan stand on 5th and 7th rank, Mens double; have top 1st and 2nd ranks. while China only have Shi Yuqi on rank 10, Mens double; only have 4th rank. Single, Both (Ginting and Shi Yuqi) meet in opening Final Thomas cup 2021 to night.

On paper, Indonesian players are above China but we should not underestimate China. China is still China with its great history and domination in Badminton. Ginting for example, he could play well against Chou T.Ch and Lee Z J but he played very bad last night against Axelsen.
Anyway, here are the line ups for the Final (found it in our local sports news) as well as in Flashscore.com:
  • Anthony Ginting vs  Lu Guang Zu
  • Fajar/Rian vs He Ji Ting/Zhou Hao Dong
  • Jonatan Christie vs Li Shi Feng
  • Daniel Marthin/Kevin Sanjaya vs Liu Cheng/Wang Yi Lyu
  • Vito vs Weng Hong Yang

There is no Minions and the Daddies for the Doubles Men. I'm not sure why but it seems that the Indonesian head coach is confidence enough to win the Final without our best players for the Doubles Men. Even there is an experiment by having Daniel Martin and Kevin Sanjaya for the 2nd Doubles Men. Lets see how it goes, hope it wont be a blunder.
https://i.ibb.co/0M5NWqr/93e07819608e4a80a2d9c61fc56bec60.jpg
after seeing the picture above, Indonesia's long struggle is the value of a fantastic victory, this is an interesting achievement, Indonesia is still winning badminton


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: tazmantasik on October 17, 2021, 02:15:25 PM
Indonesia managed to advance to the final round in the Thomas cup sector and is currently 2-0 up against China, in the first match Antoni Ginting won against Lu Guanzu with a score of 18-21, 21-14 and 21-16 in 1 hour 16 minutes. In the second match of the men's doubles, Indonesia was also able to win, the third match Jojo won in the first set and the match was quite exciting in the second set, if Jojo was able to win then Indonesia would certainly come out as champion.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: watergold on October 17, 2021, 06:52:39 PM
Indonesia managed to advance to the final round in the Thomas cup sector and is currently 2-0 up against China, in the first match Antoni Ginting won against Lu Guanzu with a score of 18-21, 21-14 and 21-16 in 1 hour 16 minutes. In the second match of the men's doubles, Indonesia was also able to win, the third match Jojo won in the first set and the match was quite exciting in the second set, if Jojo was able to win then Indonesia would certainly come out as champion.
The match between Anthony Ginting and Lu Guangzu really caught my attention because it was quite an exciting match and indeed both athletes put all their strength into it. but indeed Ginting is the strongest and wins.
I want to pay my respects to Lu Guanzu even if he loses. because indeed Lu Guanzu played quite well, especially in the first match, even though in terms of quality and head to head he always lost to ginting and he is currently the 2nd seed from china but his game was very good and even managed to withstand ginting with the ruber set before losing.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Roman_Picisan on October 18, 2021, 03:26:12 AM
We have the final here; Uber and Thomas cup 2021

Uber: China vs Japan
Thomas: Indonesia vs China

So far China still favorite to have combine Thomas and Uber, but for Thomas they have strong opponent, Indonesia have stable player every line on paper, each players standing on top 10 BWF Rank, Ginting and Jonathan stand on 5th and 7th rank, Mens double; have top 1st and 2nd ranks. while China only have Shi Yuqi on rank 10, Mens double; only have 4th rank. Single, Both (Ginting and Shi Yuqi) meet in opening Final Thomas cup 2021 to night.

On paper, Indonesian players are above China but we should not underestimate China. China is still China with its great history and domination in Badminton. Ginting for example, he could play well against Chou T.Ch and Lee Z J but he played very bad last night against Axelsen.
Anyway, here are the line ups for the Final (found it in our local sports news) as well as in Flashscore.com:
  • Anthony Ginting vs  Lu Guang Zu
  • Fajar/Rian vs He Ji Ting/Zhou Hao Dong
  • Jonatan Christie vs Li Shi Feng
  • Daniel Marthin/Kevin Sanjaya vs Liu Cheng/Wang Yi Lyu
  • Vito vs Weng Hong Yang

There is no Minions and the Daddies for the Doubles Men. I'm not sure why but it seems that the Indonesian head coach is confidence enough to win the Final without our best players for the Doubles Men. Even there is an experiment by having Daniel Martin and Kevin Sanjaya for the 2nd Doubles Men. Lets see how it goes, hope it wont be a blunder.
https://i.ibb.co/0M5NWqr/93e07819608e4a80a2d9c61fc56bec60.jpg
after seeing the picture above, Indonesia's long struggle is the value of a fantastic victory, this is an interesting achievement, Indonesia is still winning badminton

19 years of waiting, finally Indonesia can win the Thomas Cup cup again after beating China 3-0, This is the 14th time and this is the most, followed by China 10, salute to Indonesia for the king of Thomas cup.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Strongkored on October 18, 2021, 04:29:36 AM
On paper, Indonesian players are above China but we should not underestimate China.
Yes, the mentality of the Chinese players was above average, when China's second single faced J. Christie.
I think Christie will be able to win straight sets, but the second set China players was able to play well, the third set was also tight but Christie manage to win and make the Indonesian team win the Thomas Cup.
Congratulations to the Indonesia team, this is a great achievement.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Vaskiy on October 18, 2021, 06:45:44 AM
China always have an upper hand when it comes to Badminton. This time the long wait have come to Indonesia. On the other side on Uber Cup China has won against Japan to reclaim the title. Interestingly it is the 15th title win out of 19 finals. In China importance given for sports activities begin from the very small age of a Child which is also a reason why they stand high on majority of the games.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: blue Snow on October 18, 2021, 07:15:09 AM
yes, We have the winner:

China as Uber cup 2021
Indonesia as Thomas cup 2021

Congrats for both.

Have been a long time (19 years ago), now the 2020 Thomas cup just landed in Indonesia. This is the 14th Thomas and was created as a country that has the biggest collected cup.

https://i.postimg.cc/SQWLh7dj/thomas.jpg

China is still strong for women, After defeat Japan, they got the 15th Uber cup and were created as a country that has the biggest collected Uber cup.

https://i.postimg.cc/QxhQx9Ym/uber.jpg




there is still have event on october 2021 like: Denmark and French (https://bwfworldtour.bwfbadminton.com/calendar/) Open.

As we can see in round 1 Denmark open for man single: https://bwfworldtour.bwfbadminton.com/tournament/3971/victor-denmark-open-2021/results/draw/ms

there is 5 kind of match: men's and women's single, men's and women's doubles and Mixed Doubles


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on October 18, 2021, 10:35:26 PM
yes, We have the winner:

China as Uber cup 2021
Indonesia as Thomas cup 2021
Congratulations to both of the winners, they deserve it.
And I am also so happy with what have all players of the team, the coach, and also the management of Thomas Indonesia.
Especially the players, they really played very well.
Although I was so sad seeing that the Indonesian flag cannot be raised during the victory ceremony, but its pride in them is very satisfying. Congratulations once again, the long wait is finally paid off.

Yes, the struggle will be started again from the beginning in other championships.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: kawetsriyanto on October 18, 2021, 10:44:52 PM
yes, We have the winner:
China as Uber cup 2021
Indonesia as Thomas cup 2021

Have been a long time (19 years ago), now the 2020 Thomas cup just landed in Indonesia. This is the 14th Thomas and was created as a country that has the biggest collected cup.
Very proud to see Indonesia can win Thomas cup again. It is a very long time to wait for this special moment, now winning Thomas cup comes true. I especially give a great appreciation for all Indonesian man single players (Ginting, Jojo, Shesar), they look stronger and develop well. Now, Indonesian clearly have strong man single players again. They prove it by winning some crucial matches in this tournament.



Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: ipanks on October 19, 2021, 06:18:14 AM
Once again, Thomas Cup is for Indonesian. Too bad, Uber is not ours too so we can repeat what Susi and Alan did in the past. But I am sure Indonesian Team will have many chances to get both Thomas and Uber Cup in the future but the Federation needs to train their player harder and the mental for each player.

But unfortunately, The Indonesian flag does not fly on the podium. Here is the article:

Quote
https://en.tempo.co/read/1518552/indonesian-flag-absent-in-thomas-cup-govt-apologizes-for-anti-doping-fiasco


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: blue Snow on October 19, 2021, 08:34:08 AM
New games begin today: Denmark Open 2021

https://bwfworldtour.bwfbadminton.com/tournament/3971/victor-denmark-open-2021/results/draw/ms

Here are the favorite who have best bwf rank:

Men's Singles

https://i.postimg.cc/FRzBX40f/1.jpg



Women's Singles

https://i.postimg.cc/nzWwHP13/2.jpg



Men's Doubles

https://i.postimg.cc/J0BYt56M/3.jpg



Women's Doubles

https://i.postimg.cc/w38fNRZJ/4.jpg



Mix Doubles

https://i.postimg.cc/BZLJxWRQ/5.jpg

So far the favorite champions are still on top 1 and 2 ranks, but it's not a possible players who have low rank have the chance also as a dark horse like a Thailand young player Kunlavut VITIDSARN.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Congyang on October 19, 2021, 08:01:01 PM
yes, We have the winner:

China as Uber cup 2021
Indonesia as Thomas cup 2021
Congratulations to China and Indonesia for winning Thomas and Uber 2021.
I enjoyed the last game in the Thomas Cup and this is a very good thing for Indonesia because they managed to bring a trophy after the last time they won 19 years ago.
and this is a very remarkable achievement.
for uber, i don't think there is any need to doubt the strength of china because they are really great and from the start of the competition they have very high confidence because they are one of the countries that have quite good achievements and in fact they are one of the countries with the most uber trophies.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Cling18 on October 19, 2021, 09:45:58 PM
yes, We have the winner:
China as Uber cup 2021
Indonesia as Thomas cup 2021

Have been a long time (19 years ago), now the 2020 Thomas cup just landed in Indonesia. This is the 14th Thomas and was created as a country that has the biggest collected cup.
Very proud to see Indonesia can win Thomas cup again. It is a very long time to wait for this special moment, now winning Thomas cup comes true. I especially give a great appreciation for all Indonesian man single players (Ginting, Jojo, Shesar), they look stronger and develop well. Now, Indonesian clearly have strong man single players again. They prove it by winning some crucial matches in this tournament.



I didn't expect that this year would be for Indonesia and I must say that they deserve it. We've witnessed how they worked for it though it took them a long time to win and bring home the title. It was expected for China and they have an advantage since they have a strong team and they're too consistent.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on October 19, 2021, 10:53:59 PM
..Too bad, Uber is not ours too so we can repeat what Susi and Alan did in the past. But I am sure Indonesian Team will have many chances to get both Thomas and Uber Cup in the future but the Federation needs to train their player harder and the mental for each player.
It is quite hard for uber Indonesia, moreover if we know the players of users in the world. Japanese and China have a very great uber team, their single and double women players are very strong, and unfortunately, Indonesia women players still cannot balance it or become the tough opponent for those two countries (mostly, only GreyAp that is considerable).
But let's wait and see maybe for the next generation.

New games begin today: Denmark Open 2021
Very glad to know that many Indonesian players won the matches (most of them won), most of them can continue to the next round.

I didn't expect that this year would be for Indonesia and I must say that they deserve it. We've witnessed how they worked for it though it took them a long time to win and bring home the title. It was expected for China and they have an advantage since they have a strong team and they're too consistent.
many people also thought that China will always dominate the Uber and Thomas Cup as usual. Their players are very tough.
Their players are very strong and consistent. And at the time of the final, Chinese mainstay players cannot play, this certainly has a magnificent impact too.
And besides that, indeed Thomas Indonesia players are having exceptional enthusiasm and games to bring the Thomas Cup after a long wait.
They all have worked very well and satisfying.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: blue Snow on October 20, 2021, 12:31:28 AM
It seems the topic should be changed by the OP due to the completion of the Thomas cup and uber cup championships
The topic was updated before you take a sit.

and advice not to talk too much about badminton.
and I didn't invite you to come here.




New games begin today: Denmark Open 2021
Very glad to know that many Indonesian players won the matches (most of them won), most of them can continue to the next round.

So far, 6 player from Indonesia going to the next round:

1. Tommy Sugiarto
2. Marcus Fernaldi Gideon/Kevin Sanjaya Sukamuljo
3. Muhammad Shohibul Fikri/Bagas Maulana
4. Pramudya Kusumawardana/Yeremia Erich Yoche Yacob
5. Greysia Polii/Apriyani Rahayu
6. Rinov Rivaldy/Pitha Haningtyas Mentari

Here who qualified to the next round: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Denmark_Open

Men's Singles, Sessions 1 and 2

Momota
Kidambi
Tsuneyama
Antonsen
Verma
Sugiarto

https://i.postimg.cc/8kYj6hSh/1.jpg



Women's Singles, Sessions 1 and 2

Gilmour
Kim G-e
Azurmendi
Blichfeldt
Sindhu
Ongbamrungphan
An S-y
Kosetskaya

https://i.postimg.cc/L55D0jCt/2.jpg



Men's Doubles, Sessions 1 and 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Denmark_Open#Men's_doubles)

Women's Doubles, Sessions 1 and 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Denmark_Open#Women's_doubles)

Mixed Doubles, Sessions 1 and 2 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Denmark_Open#Mixed_doubles)




https://sportsbet.io/sports/badminton/matches/today

https://i.postimg.cc/4NmZpM5d/image-2021-10-20-003616.png

Look bet for Axelsen  (1.01), he will be won.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Denmark Open 2021
Post by: babygun on October 20, 2021, 01:15:47 AM
No real surprises in sessions 1 and 2 for the moment; all favorites won their matches. I mainly follow the men singles and biggest favorite to win the title is, in my eyes, Axelsen. He won olympic gold and hasn't lost a match since then. He won all his 5 matches in the Thomas cup quite easily.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Denmark Open 2021
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on October 20, 2021, 02:57:34 PM
No real surprises in sessions 1 and 2 for the moment; all favorites won their matches. I mainly follow the men singles and biggest favorite to win the title is, in my eyes, Axelsen. He won olympic gold and hasn't lost a match since then. He won all his 5 matches in the Thomas cup quite easily.
Men's singles has very strong competition, there are several other top players besides Axelsen who also participated in the Denmark Open tournament this time such as Chou tien chen, Kento Momota and also what should not be forgotten is anthony sinisuka Ginting who very often makes surprises.
I think even though playing at home it will be very difficult for Axelsen to win this championship, if no one is able to overcome Momota and Axelsen they will meet in the final and in terms of H2H between the two Momota is far superior to Axelsen.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Denmark Open 2021
Post by: xmonkeyx on October 20, 2021, 03:13:44 PM
No real surprises in sessions 1 and 2 for the moment; all favorites won their matches. I mainly follow the men singles and biggest favorite to win the title is, in my eyes, Axelsen. He won olympic gold and hasn't lost a match since then. He won all his 5 matches in the Thomas cup quite easily.

I feel like I'm missing the Indonesian women's singles for the Denmark Open this time, but the others are also exciting, I can't miss it, I hope that in the future Women's Singles will be on the list in the tournament.


don't you see there are 2 women's singles from Indonesia?
Georgia Mariska and Ruselli Hartawan are Indonesian women's singles participating in the Denmark Open tournament.
but unfortunately, Ruselli Hartawan has already lost and it is very likely that Georgia Mariska will also follow him because in the next round he will face the seeded Akane Yamaguchi from Japan.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Denmark Open 2021
Post by: blue Snow on October 21, 2021, 01:10:51 AM
it's far from expectations. however, I hope he fixes things.
Indonesian women singles aren't strong enough, we don't really need to expect too much. Just Susi Susanti era Indonesia has the best player women singles atm, after that, we don't have better.

Look like we are too close to next round 2. as predicted before several favorite players going to the next round without much problem.

I just look the bet at sportbet.io

https://i.postimg.cc/2SxDqCCB/image-2021-10-21-001341.png

The Favorite player's odds, Momota (1.03) has a big chance to win, of course with Straight Set also.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Roman_Picisan on October 21, 2021, 09:47:41 AM
-snip-
surprising things in the men's doubles Marcus Fernaldi GIDEON and his duet team Kevin Sanjaya SUKAMULJO lost and this was beyond what I expected.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on October 21, 2021, 04:22:33 PM
-snip-
surprising things in the men's doubles Marcus Fernaldi GIDEON and his duet team Kevin Sanjaya SUKAMULJO lost and this was beyond what I expected.
already in the previous few matches they had less good results. since losing in the Olympics they have not been able to return to their best performance.
I think this pair will be replaced soon, in the cup final thomas kevin sanjaya was paired with a young player from indonesia but unfortunately we can't see their match because thomas indonesia team is already leading 3-0.
maybe we'll see in the next tournament.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: panjul07 on October 21, 2021, 05:48:44 PM
-snip-
surprising things in the men's doubles Marcus Fernaldi GIDEON and his duet team Kevin Sanjaya SUKAMULJO lost and this was beyond what I expected.
already in the previous few matches they had less good results. since losing in the Olympics they have not been able to return to their best performance.
I think this pair will be replaced soon, in the cup final thomas kevin sanjaya was paired with a young player from indonesia but unfortunately we can't see their match because thomas indonesia team is already leading 3-0.
maybe we'll see in the next tournament.

They might be so tired after the Thomas Cup so they did not play all out with all their power and skills.
Other reason is as what you said, they are yet to find their best form after long break during the pandemic.
But I believe they will remain as a pair in the next tournaments till the BWF World Championship next December.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Thomas & Uber Cups 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on October 21, 2021, 11:46:12 PM
-snip-
There are about 6 representatives of Indonesian Players that still continue to the next round.
Congratulations.
In the quarter-final, Jojo will face his opponent, Momota. This will be a very interesting match. And arguably if this match is quite difficult for Jojo. We know that Momota removes top players with a very neat and good game style. He is a great player.
But I believe, Jojo is also currently a very good performer, especially with his enthusiasm who just won Thomas Cup.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Denmark Open 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on October 23, 2021, 09:21:46 PM
Indonesia now doesn't have its representative who goes to the final round.
Praven / Melati lost to the Thai pair.
And Tommy Sugiarto was also stopped by Kento Momota from Japan.

For the final itself, I am more confident that Momota will play better and win than men's singles from Denmark, Viktor Axelsen.
But of course, this is not easy, Axelsen is a great player and moreover, we also know how the supporters of the Danish players in the country are.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Denmark Open 2021
Post by: blue Snow on October 25, 2021, 06:10:14 AM
Denmark Open 2021 has finished, we have the winners;

Men's singles: Viktor Axelsen (Denmark)
Women's singles: Akane Yamaguchi (Japan)
Men's doubles:   Takuro Hoki and Yugo Kobayashi (Japan)
Women's doubles: Huang Dongping and Zheng Yu (China)
Mixed doubles:   Yuta Watanabe and Arisa Higashino (Japan)

Congratulations fro all winners.

Seems no Indonesian players there, we must get hard work to more practice. that busy schedule also makes several players have an injury, that must thinking for future.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Denmark Open 2021
Post by: Strongkored on October 25, 2021, 06:55:47 AM
Jonathan Christie suffered injury so he decided to withdraw, Tommy Sugiarto lost in the semifinals, Unfortunately that not one Indonesian player made it to the final.
Just watching the mixed doubles match and the first set of men's singles, Viktor was the favorite to win and in the end, the statistics did not matter at all in this match.
Slowly China's dominance begins to decline, in this tournament there were 4 Japan representatives in the final and 3 became champions.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Denmark Open 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on October 26, 2021, 11:22:51 PM
Men's singles: Viktor Axelsen (Denmark)
Women's singles: Akane Yamaguchi (Japan)
Men's doubles:   Takuro Hoki and Yugo Kobayashi (Japan)
Women's doubles: Huang Dongping and Zheng Yu (China)
Mixed doubles:   Yuta Watanabe and Arisa Higashino (Japan)
Congratulations to all winners.
Unfortunately, my favorite men's single, Momota lost from Axelsen  :D

Jonathan Christie suffered injury so he decided to withdraw, Tommy Sugiarto lost in the semifinals, Unfortunately, that not one Indonesian player made it to the final.
Yeah, Jojo and Ginting got injured and they were back in Indonesia. They need more rest and also treatment. Hopefully, they will recover soon.

And now, French Open 2021 has been started and Indonesia send 18 players to join. Hopefully, there will be a champion among them.
The only Indonesian man single continues to the next round, Shesar Hiren.

Wow, in the first round, Momota vs KIDAMBI Srikanth, he is not an easy opponent. but I am sure that Momota will win and continue to the next round.
 


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: blue Snow on October 27, 2021, 07:00:26 AM
And now, French Open 2021 has been started and Indonesia send 18 players to join. Hopefully, there will be a champion among them.
The only Indonesian man single continues to the next round, Shesar Hiren.

Wow, in the first round, Momota vs KIDAMBI Srikanth, he is not an easy opponent. but I am sure that Momota will win and continue to the next round.

thanks for reminding me, the thread was updated for the new event - French Open 2021

Seems no different, I took the player have the same with Denmark Open 2021 -Players (https://bwfworldtour.bwfbadminton.com/tournament/3972/yonex-french-open-2021/players/)

Men's single - 72 Players entries from 25 countries
women's single - 59 Players entries from 27 countries
Men's Double - 50 Players entries from 16 countries
women's Double - 44 Players entries from 23 countries
mix Double - 53 Players entries from 18 countries

Look at a busy schedule, I hope the players going well and didn't get injured.

For those who want to bet here: https://sportsbet.io/sports/badminton/matches/today


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: Fakhrulenclix on October 27, 2021, 01:10:33 PM
BWF's schedule is very tight, I think at the French Open this time there will be a surprise that will happen with the defeat of the seeded players, fatigue is the main factor, as we saw in the top 2 men's singles in Indonesia who were unable to participate in this tournament due to injury and it is very possible there will be another victim in this france open tournament.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on October 27, 2021, 10:32:03 PM
Look at a busy schedule, I hope the players going well and didn't get injured.

For those who want to bet here: https://sportsbet.io/sports/badminton/matches/today
Yes, they really have a busy schedule.
In November there will also be two championships held in Bali, Indonesia. Namely the Indonesian Masters Super 750 and also Indonesia Open 2021.
Hopefully, the athletes have maintained their health and strong physical.

I tried to open https://sportsbet.io/sports/badminton/matches/today\ and found no badminton. Is there any missing? Or Am I missing something?
Btw, There was surprising news from Axelsen who stated that he Retreated from the French Open 2021 because he suffered a mild. Of course, this provides a good opportunity for Shesar. But there are still other men's singles players who are quite heavy to fight.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: blue Snow on October 28, 2021, 02:27:35 AM
BWF's schedule is very tight, I think at the French Open this time there will be a surprise that will happen with the defeat of the seeded players, fatigue is the main factor, as we saw in the top 2 men's singles in Indonesia who were unable to participate in this tournament due to injury and it is very possible there will be another victim in this france open tournament.
So far no famous Indonesia player, when I look at the stat Rhustavito who is available on the next round. in the top rank, Only Momota who have a chance to be a champion, and his big opponent (Axelsen) was backed off.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_French_Open_(badminton)

In November there will also be two championships held in Bali, Indonesia. Namely the Indonesian Masters Super 750 and also Indonesia Open 2021.
Hopefully, the athletes have maintained their health and strong physical.

Maybe Ginting and J christie have to prepare for those events and Ignore French.

I tried to open https://sportsbet.io/sports/badminton/matches/today\ and found no badminton. Is there any missing? Or Am I missing something?
I don't know what happens, maybe didn't playing yet (because is live)
yesterday, when I listed the link French open is still on the list,
and today morning at 07.00 WIB I saw a change to be Belgian International (IC) and now 09.30 WIB (you have to check it) back to the French Open. Maybe sportbet have to change with the time of situation because Belgian and French open with time together.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: Bitinity on October 28, 2021, 04:09:35 AM
@OP: Since we are in the gambling discussionboard not a sport discussion board, it will be better if you can search some information about crypto betting sites where we can bet on the mentioned badminton event. If you find it then share it here, post about the available markets to bet with its odds.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] Denmark Open 2021
Post by: Strongkored on October 28, 2021, 06:17:34 AM

Wow, in the first round, Momota vs KIDAMBI Srikanth, he is not an easy opponent. but I am sure that Momota will win and continue to the next round.

Momota won the battle by a tight point. It was quite surprising for Srikanth because the first round directly faced the first seed. As the first seed Momota is the favorite to win.

two bookies where I usually bet, betja and roobet, there is no badminton bet available at roobet while at betja the choice is only at money line.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on October 28, 2021, 11:05:59 PM
Maybe Ginting and J christie have to prepare for those events and Ignore French.
Yes, they need more rest and also especially treatment in order to face the next matches, which is in Indonesia.
This will be more priority right now, moreover in our own country.
At least, Indonesia still has about 6 players (doubles) in the next round.

and today morning at 07.00 WIB I saw a change to be Belgian International (IC) and now 09.30 WIB (you have to check it) back to the French Open. Maybe sportbet have to change with the time of situation because Belgian and French open with time together.
Oh, I see.

-snip-
There is on SportsBetIO asmentioned by the OP.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: blue Snow on October 29, 2021, 12:04:20 AM
@OP: Since we are in the gambling discussionboard not a sport discussion board, it will be better if you can search some information about crypto betting sites where we can bet on the mentioned badminton event. If you find it then share it here, post about the available markets to bet with its odds.

thanks, I have already put the link sportbet.io (https://sportsbet.io/sports/badminton/matches/today) in OP since Denmark open. about odds, As I know when still round 1, 2, and quarter-final, the unfavorite players still have the high odds.

I just followed what do they write in Gambling discussion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=228.0) Board, seems all people discussion about sport on the gambling board.

two bookies where I usually bet, betja and roobet, there is no badminton bet available at roobet while at betja the choice is only at money line.

Fortunejack and betop.gg also. I found those bets at moments ago

- https://sportsbet.io/sports/badminton/matches/today
- https://betop.gg/sport/14
- https://betja.com/sport/badminton
- https://fortunejack.com/sportsbook?page=%2Fprematch%2Fhome%2Fleague%2F1863856,1863858

Momota won the battle by a tight point. It was quite surprising for Srikanth because the first round directly faced the first seed. As the first seed Momota is the favorite to win.
Momota is still a favorite No.1 After Axelsen back off, Momota has already to Quarterfinal meet Indonesia player Rhustavito.

At least, Indonesia still has about 6 players (doubles) in the next round.

when I look on men's double (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_French_Open_(badminton)#Men's_doubles), yes, we have the chance to create all Indonesian Finals. but of course if they won the step.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on October 29, 2021, 11:22:38 PM
Momota is still a favorite No.1 After Axelsen back off, Momota has already to Quarterfinal meet Indonesia player Rhustavito.
Exactly, Momota has the biggest chance to win here. He will exactly have the big bet.
He has defeated Rhustavito.

when I look at men's double, yes, we have the chance to create all Indonesian Finals. but of course if they won the step.
Well, Yes, Indonesia still has two men's double, after Hendra/Ahsan was defeated by Kong Sung Hyun/Shin Baek Cheol.
And we are waiting for all Indonesia SemiFinal again  :D


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: blue Snow on October 31, 2021, 01:13:42 AM
Exactly, Momota has the biggest chance to win here. He will exactly have the big bet.
That was unexpected, Momota has lost with his compatriot, Kanta Tsuneyama. Seems like bettor got big wins tonight.  ;D
in the final Tsuneyama will fight vs Chou Tien-Chen from Taipen.

On single women's too, Japan is still stronger, they successfully create all Japan's final, Akane Yamaguchi vs Sayaka Takahashi

while Indonesia, Only reserved for men's double final: Gideon and Sukamulya vs  Ko Sung-hyun and Shin Baek-cheol (korea)

women's double created all Korean final: Lee So-hee and Shin Seung-chan VS  Kim So-yeong and Kong Hee-yong.

Mixed doubles final: Yuta Watanabe and Arisa Higashino (japan) VS Mathias Christiansen and Alexandra Bųje (Denmark)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_French_Open_(badminton)#Tournament


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: xmonkeyx on October 31, 2021, 05:17:27 PM
Exactly, Momota has the biggest chance to win here. He will exactly have the big bet.
That was unexpected, Momota has lost with his compatriot, Kanta Tsuneyama. Seems like bettor got big wins tonight.  ;D
in the final Tsuneyama will fight vs Chou Tien-Chen from Taipen.

On single women's too, Japan is still stronger, they successfully create all Japan's final, Akane Yamaguchi vs Sayaka Takahashi

while Indonesia, Only reserved for men's double final: Gideon and Sukamulya vs  Ko Sung-hyun and Shin Baek-cheol (korea)

women's double created all Korean final: Lee So-hee and Shin Seung-chan VS  Kim So-yeong and Kong Hee-yong.

Mixed doubles final: Yuta Watanabe and Arisa Higashino (japan) VS Mathias Christiansen and Alexandra Bųje (Denmark)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_French_Open_(badminton)#Tournament
the final is over, I just want to talk about men's singles and men's doubles. It's amazing that an unseeded player managed to win this tournament. especially in the Japanese men's doubles which managed to beat the world's number 1 men's doubles from Indonesia, it was not predicted by many people at first even the bookies gave big odds for the Japanese men's doubles player, who dared to bet on him tonight to get a big profit.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: Strongkored on November 01, 2021, 03:53:38 AM
-snip-
the final is over, I just want to talk about men's singles and men's doubles. It's amazing that an unseeded player managed to win this tournament. especially in the Japanese men's doubles which managed to beat the world's number 1 men's doubles from Indonesia, it was not predicted by many people at first even the bookies gave big odds for the Japanese men's doubles player, who dared to bet on him tonight to get a big profit.
A big surprise and a sad result for the Indonesian team, did not won championship title.
Did you place a bet at this match? I don't take much attention to placing a bet at badminton match but looking forward to do that at next badminton tournament.
I watched the men's singles final, an interesting match because almost all points had to be won with a lot of strokes first, and this is what made the Chinese Taipei player run out of energy in the third set.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: blue Snow on November 02, 2021, 05:17:20 AM
A big surprise and a sad result for the Indonesian team, did not won championship title.
I can't say anything, we hope and opportunity only for men's double. now we have to forget this and think about the next match. Maybe a busy schedule and tightness is the main reason. as we can see many player has to retire before the match. I hope BWF thinking about the situation for the next event.

So, French open 2021 was closed, we have the winners:

  • Men's singles  - Kanta Tsuneyama (Japan)
  • Women's singles - Akane Yamaguchi (Japan)
  • Men's doubles - Ko Sung-hyun and Shin Baek-cheol (korea)
  • Women's doubles - Lee So-hee and Shin Seung-chan (Korea)
  • Mixed doubles - Yuta Watanabe and Arisa Higashino (japan)

Congrats to all winners.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on November 03, 2021, 11:04:18 PM
That was unexpected, Momota has lost with his compatriot, Kanta Tsuneyama. Seems like bettor got big wins tonight.  ;D
in the final Tsuneyama will fight vs Chou Tien-Chen from Taipen.
Well, it is unexpected really. Many people believe that Kento Momota will be the winner and many will bet on him, but it was very unexpected. He was retired in the third match.
yeah, but respect for Momota, and hopefully he can get well son after his retire when fighting Kanta Tsuyneyama.
And another surprise came from Indonesia Men double that was lost.
But well, congratulations to all winners, they really did their best.

#this may be very late congratulation  ;D


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: blue Snow on November 07, 2021, 05:08:12 AM
As we can see this month is a very busy match for Badminton, now we have a final Hylo open on German - 02 - 07 NOVEMBER

Hylo Open 2021 (https://bwfworldtour.bwfbadminton.com/tournament/3979/hylo-open-2021-formerly-saarlorlux-open)

We have the finals stage;

Men's singles ; Loh Kean Yew (Singapore) vs  Lee Zii Jia (Malaysia)

Women's singles: Yeo Jia Min (Singapore) vs Busanan Ongbamrungphan (Thailand)

Men's doubles: All Indonesian Finals - Marcus Fernaldi Gideon, Kevin Sanjaya Sukamuljo vs Leo Rolly Carnando, Daniel Marthin

Women's doubles: All Japans Finals - Chisato Hoshi, Aoi Matsuda and Rin Iwanaga, Kie Nakanishi

Mixed doubles: Dechapol Puavaranukroh, Sapsiree Taerattanachai (Thailand) vs Praveen Jordan, Melati Daeva Oktavianti (Indonesia)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Hylo_Open

Look like we have a new finals men and women single. Indonesia still has a chance for mixed and of course, has secured the title for men doubled.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on November 12, 2021, 10:19:48 PM
As we can see this month is a very busy match for Badminton, now we have a final Hylo open on German - 02 - 07 NOVEMBER
Although it is too late, congratulations to all winners.

And here, we are going to meet INDONESIA OPEN 2021 that will be held in Bali, Indonesia.
Some players have arrived in Bali.

Unfortunately, this time China players could not participate in the Indonesia Open.
Whereas China is often the mainstay to bring many victories.
however, maybe this could be an opportunity for other countries to win again.
I personally hope that Men's double and men's singles winners at least will come from Indonesia Players.  ;D


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: blue Snow on November 21, 2021, 12:29:59 PM
Only several days left for Indonesia Open 2021 on 23 to 28 November 2021 on Nusa dua, Bali.

for now, we have the game Daihatsu Master Indonesia 2021 in the same place.

so we have the finals:

men's singles: Kento Momota vs Anders Antonsen
Women's singles: Akane Yamaguchi vs An Se-young
Men's doubles: Marcus Fernaldi Gideon and Kevin Sanjaya Sukamuljo VS Takuro Hoki and Yugo Kobayashi
Women's doubles: Jeong Na-eun and Kim Hye-jeong VS Nami Matsuyama and Chiharu Shida
Mixed doubles: Dechapol Puavaranukroh and Sapsiree Taerattanachai VS Tang Chun Man and Tse Ying Suet
 
Indonesia has only Men's doubles left, so far is our mainstay. we have to continue to improve the players, too many misunderstandings for each player such as mixed singles. Thailand is progressing rapidly, they have a team very solid as before and will have more advanced in the future.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Indonesia_Masters

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Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: panjul07 on November 21, 2021, 03:33:27 PM
for now, we have the game Daihatsu Master Indonesia 2021 in the same place.

Nothing else to say about the Indonesian Master except "DISAPPOINTING".
Many Indonesian players were knocked out too early including Ginting, Jojo, Pramel, Fajar/Rian, and others.
One representative only in the Final, but too bad Minions failed to win.
I do not understand why they played under their best form while they are playing in their own beloved country.


Title: Re: Badminton Discussion Thread 2021
Post by: blue Snow on November 22, 2021, 06:32:14 AM
for now, we have the game Daihatsu Master Indonesia 2021 in the same place.
Nothing else to say about the Indonesian Master except "DISAPPOINTING".
Many Indonesian players were knocked out too early including Ginting, Jojo, Pramel, Fajar/Rian, and others.
One representative only in the Final, but too bad Minions failed to win.
I do not understand why they played under their best form while they are playing in their own beloved country.
Look like they don't have a nationalism spirit, this must be corrected for Pelatnas. Every day step by step our sport has to get down, so far best achievement is only having 1 gold Olympic and Thomas.

Daihatsu Master Indonesia 2021 has over and we have the winners:

men's singles: Kento Momota
Women's singles: An Se-young
Men's doubles: Takuro Hoki and Yugo Kobayashi
Women's doubles: Nami Matsuyama and Chiharu Shida
Mixed doubles: Dechapol Puavaranukroh and Sapsiree Taerattanachai

Just a Moment for Indonesia Open, I hope they made the last achievement at home.


Title: Re: [Badminton Discussion Thread] French Open 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on November 24, 2021, 11:38:24 PM
Nothing else to say about the Indonesian Master except "DISAPPOINTING".
Exactly, moreover the Mix Double, PraMel, they were very disappointing, they really brought their personals problems into the fields, like non-professional players.

And also in this IO, Ginting was defeated in the first round (32), so disappointed.
Well, I always wonder why Indonesia Players mostly will be down enough and do not have high spirit when playing in our country itself, Indonesia, they will commonly make some disappointment. It is different when they in other countries.
Hopefully, in this IO, most players will play their best, professionally, and at least will be winners, at least the men doubles.


Title: Re: Badminton Discussion Thread 2021
Post by: blue Snow on November 25, 2021, 05:46:10 AM
Indonesia Open was Begin and going to the 2nd step, so far who is eligible for the next champions is not too much change, the favorite is still the same as before.

@rengga jati that was surprised me when Ginting has been stopped in the 1st round, he doesn't have a good performance this year, may be too many factors like tiredness and too many schedule matches. This situation is the same for each player, when he doesn't have enough spirit will be stoped at the beginning.

https://bwfworldtour.bwfbadminton.com/tournament/4039/indonesia-open-2021-new-dates/results/2021-11-23
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_Indonesia_Open
https://sportsbet.io/sports/badminton/matches/today


Title: Re: Badminton Discussion Thread 2021
Post by: Rengga Jati on November 26, 2021, 10:00:48 PM
@rengga jati that was surprised me when Ginting has been stopped in the 1st round, he doesn't have a good performance this year, may be too many factors like tiredness and too many schedule matches. This situation is the same for each player, when he doesn't have enough spirit will be stoped at the beginning.
Yes, exactly. And now, we are waiting for Jojo.
Btw, I was also little bit surprised when Momota was also defeated by LOH Kean yew, He is a young player, but he can stop several top players, really appreciate.
For men. double, I still believe that KeGid will be in the final, but to be the winner, well, let's see..
Many were disappointing from Indonesia players when playing in Indonesia, too depressed and also  they may be too tired because of the matches that are very closed.


Title: Re: Badminton Discussion Thread 2021
Post by: blue Snow on March 18, 2022, 12:00:38 AM
YONEX All England Open Badminton Championships 2022 16 - 20 March

playing at Arena Birmingham in Birmingham, England, from 16 to 20 March 2022 and has a total prize pool of $990,000.

we are on 8 round:

Men's singles

[Denmark] Viktor Axelsen
[Japan] Kento Momota
[Denmark] Anders Antonsen
[Chinese Taipei] Chou Tien-chen
[Indonesia] Anthony Sinisuka Ginting
[Malaysia] Lee Zii Jia
[Indonesia ]Jonatan Christie
[Hong Kong] Ng Ka Long

Women's singles

[Chinese Taipei] Tai Tzu-ying
[Japan] Akane Yamaguchi
[China] Chen Yufei
[South Korea] An Se-young
[Japan] Nozomi Okuhara
[India] P. V. Sindhu
[Thailand] Ratchanok Intanon
[China] He Bingjiao

Men's doubles

[Indonesia] Marcus Fernaldi Gideon / Kevin Sanjaya Sukamuljo
[Indonesia] Mohammad Ahsan / Hendra Setiawan
[Japan] Takuro Hoki / Yugo Kobayashi
[Malaysia] Aaron Chia / Soh Wooi Yik
[India] Satwiksairaj Rankireddy / Chirag Shetty
[Indonesia] Fajar Alfian / Muhammad Rian Ardianto
[Denmark] Kim Astrup / Anders Skaarup Rasmussen
[Malaysia] Ong Yew Sin / Teo Ee Yi

Women's doubles

[China] Chen Qingchen / Jia Yifan
[South Korea] Lee So-hee / Shin Seung-chan
[South Korea] Kim So-yeong / Kong Hee-yong
[Japan] Yuki Fukushima / Sayaka Hirota
[Japan] Mayu Matsumoto / Wakana Nagahara
[Indonesia] Greysia Polii / Apriyani Rahayu
[Japan] Nami Matsuyama / Chiharu Shida
[Thailand] Jongkolphan Kititharakul / Rawinda Prajongjai

Mixed doubles

[Thailand] Dechapol Puavaranukroh / Sapsiree Taerattanachai
[China] Zheng Siwei / Huang Yaqiong
[China] Wang Yilyu / Huang Dongping
[Japan] Yuta Watanabe / Arisa Higashino
[Indonesia] Praveen Jordan / Melati Daeva Oktavianti
[England] Marcus Ellis / Lauren Smith (Second round)
[Malaysia] Tan Kian Meng / Lai Pei Jing
[France] Thom Gicquel / Delphine Delrue

As we can see, Viktor Axelsen, Kento Momota, P. V. Sindhu, Greysia Polii / Apriyani Rahayu are the favorite, but still, we don't know next, like  Chen Qing Chen/Jia Yi Fan who has superior on Women's doubles has lost yesterday. but we know, Viktor Axelsen and Kento Momota are predicted to meet again in the semi-final or final, this is an interesting match we have to watch.

https://bwfworldtour.bwfbadminton.com/tournament/4431/yonex-all-england-open-badminton-championships-2022/live/?tab=next
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_All_England_Open


Title: Re: [Badminton] Discussion Thread - ALL ENGLAND 2022
Post by: KennyR on May 16, 2022, 05:01:58 AM
Team India have created history winning Thomas Cup beating 14-time champions Indonesia. Kidambi Srikanth defeated Indonesian player 21-15, 23-21 to register a historic win for India in the Thomas cup 2022. Earlier Lakshya Sen, doubles players Chirag Shetty and Satwiksairaj Rankireddy notched up to win the prestigious team championship for India. Thomas Cup is considered as the World Cup for Shuttle Badminton.


Title: Re: [Badminton] Discussion Thread - ALL ENGLAND 2022
Post by: Bitinity on May 16, 2022, 06:16:23 AM
Team India have created history winning Thomas Cup beating 14-time champions Indonesia. Kidambi Srikanth defeated Indonesian player 21-15, 23-21 to register a historic win for India in the Thomas cup 2022. Earlier Lakshya Sen, doubles players Chirag Shetty and Satwiksairaj Rankireddy notched up to win the prestigious team championship for India. Thomas Cup is considered as the World Cup for Shuttle Badminton.

It was a huge surprise to see Indian beat Indonesian easily in the final 3-0. Antony Ginting started the first game really well in the 1st set but 2nd and 3rd changed significantly, Ginting seems to be underestimating his opponent after winning the 1st set so he loss focus in the 2nd and 3rd set. The same thing happened for the 2nd game between the Men double, most Indonesian supporters including me believed that it would be an easy game for Indonesia but in fact we were wrong. By the way, congratulations for India to get their 1st title, they deserve it as they played all out since the group stage.


Title: Re: [Badminton] Discussion Thread 2022
Post by: blue Snow on May 17, 2022, 06:22:45 AM
Team India have created history winning Thomas Cup beating 14-time champions Indonesia. Kidambi Srikanth defeated Indonesian player 21-15, 23-21 to register a historic win for India in the Thomas cup 2022. Earlier Lakshya Sen, doubles players Chirag Shetty and Satwiksairaj Rankireddy notched up to win the prestigious team championship for India. Thomas Cup is considered as the World Cup for Shuttle Badminton.

It was a huge surprise to see Indian beat Indonesian easily in the final 3-0. Antony Ginting started the first game really well in the 1st set but 2nd and 3rd changed significantly, Ginting seems to be underestimating his opponent after winning the 1st set so he loss focus in the 2nd and 3rd set. The same thing happened for the 2nd game between the Men double, most Indonesian supporters including me believed that it would be an easy game for Indonesia but in fact we were wrong. By the way, congratulations for India to get their 1st title, they deserve it as they played all out since the group stage.
This is the first time India got the Thomas Cup title and become a proud achievement since the country begin to rise and focus on badminton sport. The Achievement is the same as other countries did, including Japan (2014) And Denmark (2016), and deciding the dominant country such as Indonesia, China, and Malaysia to focus again that there is another country stronger between them.

We also have a surprise in Uber Cup 2022, South Korea is competent to beat China 3-2 and received achievement as 2nd-time Uber Cup after 2010.

Congrats for India and China.


Title: Re: [Badminton] Discussion Thread 2022
Post by: blue Snow on August 24, 2022, 04:32:05 AM
BWF World Championships 2022

BWF World Championships 2022 event in Tokyo, Japan has almost entered round 16 (third round), The man Favorite players like Victor Axelsen, Ginting, Thammasin and others is going to the next rounds. We also surprised a player who filled the top 3 ranks got lost in the first round (Anders Antonsen) and for sure this is an interesting match because many surprised as we can see next until 28th August