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There is a guy from INDIA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352156.msg57863117#msg57863117) a guy from Vietnam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5366504.msg58273661#msg58273661) that translate in ITALIAN language but he use some "unknown" words meaning everything (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352156.msg57835108#msg57835108).
Clearly ( ::) ) he is not Italian nor he can just say or write correctly "CIAO".
Despite several warnings (see below the full list), he get payed from bounty manager.  ???

Well I don't know why use negative trust, or spot scammers/fraudsters etc etc etc if at the end this is the gift for a bounty scammer.
Plus I don't know what is the real task, if even some shitty translation get payed
Even more, there are seriously project out of here ready to pay these shitty translation?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ObeZgIaX66LtIOYoGD4VSw6gfjJ88kcd3AbFWjcpMbo/edit#gid=1266893130

This is a fraud, plus this account has been connected to other accounts banned/fraudsters and so on...
What did you think?

Thanks in advance for any reply!



to be updated.

I've created a few threads about similar situations[1]; so there's really not many answers.

If you do have a local mod that speaks italian, you could simply report every post you see that has been translated this way saying that it was in fact translated by a machine.
You could also contact the manager and tell him what happen, although he'll most likely just put up an excuse. You could red-tag him in this case, it will for sure catch his attention and at least for me, it'd be a justified one.

You could also red-tag the translator, but he won't care much about it.

TLDR, reporting is your best option here

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[1]
Cheating translator and incompetent manager   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5295628.msg55730730#msg55730730)
Actions against spam translators   (http://)

Thank you @Csmiami I am asking to mod and other reputable guys from Italy board:
@HostFat
@coinlocket$
@fillippone
@babo
@duesoldi

Ragazzi (Guys),
could you please confirm if this "italian" can be used by Italians or this translation can be made by Italians?

(I am just taking 1 translations ... few examples...)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d5_D8igRvbS4sDpddJNak7fl6z_Tv6cz/view
https://web.archive.org/save/https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d5_D8igRvbS4sDpddJNak7fl6z_Tv6cz/view

"Rigido" means "hard/strong" and normally it's a term used ..... yes you know what ::)

Completely non-sense no meaning first part and I am not sure even if he is using Italian since this is an unknown word at least in TRECCANI Dictionary ... even this is not "common" language... ::)

I mean this is a non sense. "Attraversa" is used for "crossing the street (attraversa la strada) not used in this sense .....

He miss properly BASIC grammar... (del - article ) no one italian can talk/write in that way.... completely non sense....

this is just in a couple of pages/few examples but it is full of grammar mistakes, missing pieces, words just created ;D .
anyone Italian mother-tongue can confirm this is definitely not a real translation.


PS
I Haven't received any reply by bounty manager despite several warnings :( still now I have not answers.
However I am continuing to update the long list of accounts connected ;)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365814.0

I confirm that this translation was not done by an Italian-speaking person.
In addition to the examples given by @bitbollo, it is sufficient to look at a random page of the WPP to find conceptual errors. On p. 3 for example it says:


I suppose that "scorrendo " is the translation of "swipe" but in Italian nobody would translate swipe that way: it would mean "to pass over" people.
It's just one example, there are many similar ones.

I opened the FOOBEE white paper (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d5_D8igRvbS4sDpddJNak7fl6z_Tv6cz/view) on a random page.

I landed on page 14, I choose a random sentence:


I don't know what does this sentence means in Italian.

This is the original text from the Whitepaper:


Translating back to the Italian Language:


Definitely similar. Possibly, the translator version is even worse than GT version.
My version would be better than that,

Man, that sentence in English doesn't even make much sense, never mind the Italian translation! 

And yeah, I'd say there's way more than enough evidence that points to this stronzo either using a translation service or simply doing a shitty job manually translating something into a language which he's obviously not proficient in.  I don't usually tag translation scammers, but I'll make an exception in this case.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365814.msg58233971#msg58233971
Meanwhile I continue to discover other alt-accounts connected to the same banned accounts / frauder:
I am stille waiting a reply by bounty manager @irfan_pak10 .

Has an interesting trust left on 2021-08-13 by YOSHIE = https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2860264

I mean, it has been already pointed out as issue?
Or it has been in some way addressed?

As my personal curiosity to @irfan_pak10 ....
did you think it can be sound strange that some random people from INDIA is speaking "perfectly italian like a translator" meanwhile they are completely inactive in ITALIAN SECTION but still active in foreigners local section?

Never get curiosity about that?

Ok , well, much probably we are talking about just shitcoin/shit-bounties (I am probably the first Italian that has opened one these WP ! ;D)  
this can explain this missing interest, but I am not able to find one user from italian board that has made one translation in these "bounties".
There are "real italians" that works in these bounties? I don't want asks for other countries but if some one from Germany or Spain or France would check I think this is a "global issues" not only for ITALIANS ::)

Thanks in advance for you reply @irfan_pak10 .
I am still waiting since a month (maybe more...) but no worries, Italians love to wait, no hurry at all.

EDIT
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5366861.msg58234205#msg58234205
Topic in ITALIAN LANGUAGE (the real one) in our local board!

If you already DM him, posted on that bounty topic and as I see that it was really for over a month that post has been there and yet @irfan_pak10 doesn't respond, I wonder if this topic would even caught his/her attention. Likely just a milking cow bounty, either with the bounty hunters and the manager itself or both, just my two cents but I think I am making some sense in this opinion of mine.

Back when I did the reporting wave on one single translator, I did get in touch with the managers. I'll quote the replies, to see what kind of reply you can expect (if any).



Investigation that will never happen, or a simple "we can't check everything" will suffice...
I know I've made some noise in the past and present about this issue, but it's good to see that more members are getting involved in this from different countries

thank you @rhomelmabini. appreciated and yes generally speaking it is something acceptable/reliable as opinion.
but, I don't like that he/she come after a while and says "I was never informed about that issue" ::)

I want be really sure that he has read my several messages, topic, etc etc....
(I know he has posted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352156.msg58218595#msg58218595 in the same page and payed the fake translation despite SEVERAL WARNINGS!)
Meanwhile I am collecting "alt accounts" linked to the same scammer ;) here (59 already posted much much more will be posted soon ;) )
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365814.0

LOL ;D
If you check
1. D_DOT it's a kind of expert in Italian from the scratch....
LOL if this is the way they make this check it's something ... no I can't comment..... sorry.
 
Here in this topic the issue it is also another one.
Because, despite it has been clearly pointed out to bounty manager.... warning has been ignored. and scammer has been payed.


LOL ! Complaints form was also closed! ::)

What he/she is doing if he/she don't check the job done and ignore warnings ?!?
What he/she is doing if he/she is not able to speak that language but able to "recognize" previous work as "reputable"?!?!

If you have enough evidence to prove he has a banned account then the appropriate thing to do is to report it to forum moderators for ban evasion before reporting it to the bounty manager. Mods will ban all his alts and this way you ensure he won't cheat on any other campaign (unless he creates new account).
The use of automated translation tools is also against forum rules. So, you can report all his translated threads to your local board mod.

Not sure why irfan_pak10 (reputable campaign manager, afaik) is ignoring your reports and didn't take any action against this user but you can report this directly to the project owner.

I'm not surprised, @irfan_pak10 has always been cool with issues as serious as this. I've warned in the past (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222178.msg54273732#msg54273732) about fake translators listed in his thread, and I got the same response (ignored, sadly).
As far as I know, irfan_pak10 is Pakistani. This has a little correlation with the translators being Indian (having several common native languages). Maybe they also know each other in real life.

Just my 2 sats

Thank you @bitbollo for this finding, I did check your findings in my thread and also read the comments of the guy who had done the translation job, As there were no proofs were mentioned simply saying that this guy is Indian and cant translate doesn't actually, in my opinion, justify to reject his entry. We actually usually hire backup translators too to review the translation job, Unfortunately, there was no other guy who can provide us proofs that the transaction was not done properly, or the guy used the GT.

In his comments, Where he mentioned, that if anyone can provide proofs that he used GT, I would have gladly rejected his entry if he was found guilty. But given the benefit of the doubt situation, we accepted his entry. 

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If still, someone can provide proofs that he got paid illegitimately, We will apologize and next time will be more careful about such situations. And I will pay some bonus to the guys who in the first place pointed it out.

Did you pretend also that I will evidence any stupid things on that shit?! and It's more trusted for you a newbie with no trades than a DT2 Legendary User?
or maybe did you have some doubts that I am a real Italian or I am really able to speak in Italian?!?  :-*

What is your job technically?!  I mean it's an entire FAKE TRANSLATION!  
Everything created on this "translation" was just a complete shit.

It was something so evident and clear that... I have sent private message and posted many times in topic (other users have also highlighted the issue, seriously you have seen the messages?).
 
You have just ignored, and not check anything....also you have payed him

Despite you think ??? (really!?!?!?! = LOL ;D )
"that an indian guy active in indian board and not speaking in italian section"
can be reliable ok.
Let's take this bullshit as a "valid apology" ;D ok ....
Oh Yes "he work for a translation agency" in the same way I work for actually for NASA, FBI, and CIA....
but I am Italian speaking Italian living in ITALY!
Yes it is possible. It can be possible. Can you post please some evidences that I am not really work for NASA FBI and CIA?
meh.

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Have you read this topic? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5366504.0) (This ONE !?) ;D

I will do a selection for you.


Mine has been already pointed out.


It seems you are an expert on THAT ARGUMENT! How did you have so much proficiency in Italian Language and so many other languages?!?!?

I mean,  how many times has been already pointed out with your campaigns?
Other languages also?


Each time I have reported something to a bounty manager I received a reply without opening a couple of topic in REPUTATION.
Please, this time, don't let me wait again one month and half without reply ....

Since the D_DOT (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=D_DOT) account is banned, I think his other account should be banned as well.
Please note that if D_DOT was the "translator" into Italian, the Adalgarp (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5356393.msg57965737#msg57965737) the account claims to be a Portuguese translator and also speaks German (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240221.msg54262051#msg54262051). Probably it is worth checking his work as well.

Awaklara has already raised topics about these accounts, and the transfer of tokens to one wallet.

Also, food for thought

https://i.ibb.co/pLZpchF/Screenshot-1.png (https://ibb.co/z4bwp6v)

https://i.ibb.co/zmWB7mR/Screenshot.png (https://ibb.co/tHwvxHs)

https://i.ibb.co/3YqY1r9/Screenshot.png (https://ibb.co/zHYHsnT)

https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Manish2809&from=Unbunplease
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=D_DOT&from=Unbunplease
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Raman123&from=Unbunplease

Lol! This is literally from the original Whitepaper.
Do you know when not to invest in a shitcoin? Never invest in a shitcon, otherwise, they wouldn't be called shitcoins in the first place!When they cannot even write a proper sentence in playing English: let's figure out the quality of coding skills!

Keep in mind that although this stands most of the time, there can also be cases when the original whitepaper was not English and was translated into English by another shitty translator.

My heuristic approach to investment tends to avoid putting my hard-earned money into projects that cannot even assess the quality of their own whitepaper translation.
I don't know how many next-bitcoin or next- amazon I failed to invest in, probably zero.

If there would have been a next-bitcoin or next-amazon, we would have heard of it :D
A project can be good even if it's not next-bitcoin. But you're right, there may be maybe 1% of all the projects that worth taking a first look into, and so many signs are there one doesn't even have to get to the whitepaper. And if the team couldn't double check at least the English white paper... yeah...
...But I did say that the logic in that post stands most of time :D

Totally agree with you, a serious team that's serious about building a business/a company that would stand the test of time and not just a project, would willingly put in the work required, and one of this is that every thing, from the website, to the whitepaper, to the social handles, and to the community management, everything should be up to standard, well prepaid and managed, they can't be serious with one part and neglect the other, thinking no one would take a look or care, one bad egg together with good eggs in one basket causes every egg in that basket to look bad and smell.

I'm not very good with English, everyone knows
but as an Italian, I know I know Italian well (at least)
indeed, most of the posts are on my local board (I want to make it grow even more)

I can say that as an Italian, it is not correct and it is quite strange
lol

Hey guys, would you think creating some sort of "translator blacklist" would be a good idea? It'd be hosted here at the reputation board, and I have some sort of idea on how to develop it. Problem is, end of the day most of these translators simply work for shitprojects, so it could be a total waste of time

Let me know what you think of it

Sorry yesterday I didn't reply to this part. @irfan_pak10

this guy it's me! Seriously you haven't understood already? Can I make a sketch? My english is literally so bad?!?
It should be clear. No bonus. Nothing, please.
It has been done not for any monetary or secondary purpose.
(very important = PECUNIA OLET AT LEAST FOR ME)

I created this topic to pointed out a situation with a lot of problems/issues:
- projects (it these are really "projects") get a shitty job despite money involved. They are aware? Any complaints?
- italians are completely excluded from these small tasks (no money/no sharing/no ideas nothing)
- this is a clear scam. a lot of fraud translation have been availed by unknown newbie.
- forum has been demolished by so many scammer/shit poster/ spammer etc etc and I don't want spend my precious time on a place that seems more a place for scammers than a place to talk about bitcoin.
- it's clear you have done absolutely nothing. And I am taking my situation as a CLEAR EXAMPLE of a wayto work.
Yep you didn't nothing, before any warnings, before paying him (you didn't reply to my post/other posts / Private message).

since you don't understand Italian very well either, maybe you should still accept suggestions from people whose native language is Italian. especially if they are already proven members here.
looking for more evidence here is pointless.


the point is that you don't have to apologize here. You should apologize to your employers, campaigns owners. they are damaged here because they paid for something badly done, the result is that this unprofessionalism will be reflected on them.
Just imagine what their potential Italian investor ^{those who do not read this thread and your apology} will think of them, they could not do a correct translation.

It's no big deal if you count or don't few retweets, but for things like this, you should have zero-tolerance.

That's the thing he lacks as I see it, the one month that @bitbollo provided pieces of evidence and details stating it's a lousy translation job, that's more than enough I guess that he lacks the tolerance.

I don't think it will just be a total waste of time if there are attentive bounty managers that will open translation bounties in the future. Some of these translator wannabes do tend to apply if the rate is huge even on some legit projects and it's a good thing if bounty managers have this list to look for. I think it's a good idea.

@irfan_pak10
Can you take a look here please? I am giving the time to reply but it seems you don't care at this point.

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I have other /questions/other "strange stuffs" to post here :) regarding your campaigns (yes already saved/archived ::) ).

[E.G, it seems I am not the first "Italian" that is ignored by you... meanwhile other people are able to speak several languages  ::) LOL ]

I am not asking too much I guess.... If you don't want post here or you don't have any excuse to explain these "strange stuffs" it's ok for me :P just to be aware :)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5366504.msg58237406#msg58237406
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5366504.msg58244473#msg58244473

Already answered.


I would love to see your complaints/ Actually anyone's complaints and will process them [Should have some valid proofs.]


Actually, It would be a good idea, As I have created a list of all the translators, we can actually go through their previous work and see how many of them were fake - And we can add them to the blacklist. I had some permanent translators and some backup, and usually ask my backup translators to review the translation. Actually we can ask those permanent one's if they would like to review their native language translators, as it would take them few min to get an idea if the translation is done by a native or that someone used GT.

A bunch of (confirmed) Italians saying that something is not Italian is not valid proof enough?

OK. this not means (at least for ME ::) ) that your answer was satisfactory or has minimum logical sense.
And I should not ask more question or try to understand a bit more :) ?

Oh yes, sure... " e la marmotta che confezionava la cioccolata" (not italians please check YT here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEpiC5Sn5FU)

A newbie without trust that has never created a topic in Italian language or section.
He is more trusted then an active user... that is also a member of Bitcoin Foundation Italian! ;D since ..some years but yes .

Thank you definitely, you are just confirming step by step that you were clearly aware of what was going on.

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Please can you explain to me this:
https://i.ibb.co/StdRGYn/Schermata-2021-10-23-alle-03-59-41.png (https://ibb.co/1rd8jyq)
(other people are complaining about your translators, ops italian translators ... they get ignored )

better! this one!
https://i.ibb.co/JqF3k88/Schermata-2021-10-23-alle-03-57-21.png (https://ibb.co/RN4jHtt)
(Italian join one of your translation I have verified and this is italian .... he get ignored! Ok you ignore Italian I am upset for this!!! ;D )

VERY IMPORTANT AT LEAST THIS TIME!
LOL ;D please don't ask again any confirmation that also this account can be an italian
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=193437;sa=showPosts (ragazzi ... date un occhiata ai post precedenti... ) [guys.... please check post history]

here the spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FrORV96g3mpOr7O4LEcButNz3azDpbJll7ixlThQgiw/edit#gid=0

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definitely speaking D_DOT has been always your Italian point of reference.
I am seriously curious to know WHY you need help by Italian translator (LOL ;D in your group ;D hahahahhaha)
THE DAY AFTER D_DOT Confirmed he is not using Google Translate (!!!)

(ULTRA LOL ;D I AM ITALIAN I DON'T USE GT TO CHECK IF SOME ONE HE IS REALLY A MOTHER TONGUE!)
meanwhile you have not replied to any of my warnings in private or pubblic. You have just payed him.

I mean this think has no excuse. More you try to give shitty explanation and more It's something weird that you have no idea that a Legendary User Dt2 that write a lot in Italian section was less trusted than a NEWBIE with 0 post in italian section!  ???
https://i.ibb.co/qDhSSBm/Schermata-2021-10-23-alle-09-27-34.png (https://imgbb.com/)

in this screenshot there is another famous user that there is ready to get help.
famous because he has already connected with suspicious other alt-accounts. ( I have proof ready to be posted but .... there are so many scammers in group managed by you and your bounty that is seriously harder catch ALL SCAMMERS and ALL CONNECTIONS)

Just matter of time :)

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No. I don't want waste time for you or with you.
I don't want post each question or observation 2 times since you don't want to reply clearly.

I have explained several ISSUES with this kind of "translations" .
[If you don’t believe it or don’t get it, I don’t have the time to try to convince you, sorry.”]
Definitely my questions are not too much focused to you but to an entire community of people that follow bitcoin and bitcointalk.
Just to be clear since you are not really smart with this shady way to reply to me (or also ignoring me for weeks and weeks and replied ONLY NOW IN THIS TOPIC!!!! ;) )


are you serious? I mean you have availed several scammers in several fake translation.
It's something weird/dismal/crazy that YOU PRETEND to create a TRUSTED LIST OF TRANSLATORS.

this is a point that has been already pointed out with translators involved in your bounty project (likewise D_DOT was your Italian ;D preferred and he is just an altaccount of another vietnamese translator, proof posted TODAY HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg58273278#msg58273278) and HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365814.msg58273422#msg58273422)

I don't know if you are just trying to "close the eyes" but .... I am literally shocked about your behavior since you are from a while in this forum.  Also enough time that posting ponzi was something "accepted".

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EDIT
As you know fake Italian translator was D_DOT.
As I have posted HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg58273278#msg58273278) and HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365814.msg58273422#msg58273422) this guy is actually a "vietnamese translator".

USERNAME = anobtc

The guys that was producing fake translation in ITALIANO with this username on forum = ANO BTC .

ANO
BTC

 ::) ???

(foreigners please check by yourself what it means in Italian....  :'( I can't post a picture... sorry .... I confess this explain clearly why these translation are simply s*it)

Please note =
I was able to detect ALL this connections with D_DOT and other alt-accounts (69+) including

ANO
BTC

 ::) ???

in just a couple of hours in total.

What is really absurd to me ::) is that  I am not a BOUNTY MANAGER with literally NO EXPERIENCE IN SUCH TYPE OF RESEARCH ;) but I WAS ABLE THE SAME TO CATCH TENS OF SCAMMERS ULTRA LOL ;D LIKEWISE DURING "DRINKING A COFFEE " AND WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF ECONOMIC INTEREST/PAYMENT ETC ETC ETC....

THIS IS SELF-EXPLANATORY ! ;)  

[Cum Grano Salis]

Last but not least...
You continue to deny that there is an issue, You continue to deny PROOFS!
My complaints are not enough? You seriously have not clear after a couple of months? Why You call COMPLAINTS ?
I have seen everything than a complaints since I AM NOT PAYED by this bounty.... just warnings!!!


Generally speaking, did you means,
that if I am the only that is complaining from Italy this is something that doesn't give importance to me or what I have posted here? Or maybe you have likewise a limite of people before you take care about an issue or a scam?

Moreover, about PROOFS:
I have seen, @duesoldi @fillippone @babo replies on this topic.
I don't know no one in person ( ::) ) but since they are active from several years in Italian section and they know very well tradition history culture etc etc ......

Again, you need other
Proofs?
More Complaints?
You need some help again a couple of months of explanation by several users also this time?
More connections with D_DOT and people enrolled in your bounty?
Other scammers/fake translator in your bounty/telegram group?

I mean "PICC0LOLATTE" It's something weird and stupid that no one idiot in Italy will use as a nick name but I mean.... I am asking rethorical question, there are enough evidences for others forum users to make their free OPINION.

Removing D_DOT from our translator list, and with the next translation bounty, I will hire backup guys to review the translations job.

shouldn't you be looking for some of the previous work from the translator? also checking post history, it is easy to determine if the user has any connection to the language for which he is offering translation.
honestly, I'm surprised that after so much experience and campaign you've been managing, you still don't have your own list of quality translators.

We do have out own list, but lately many of them are inactive, so we had to go with the new translators. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fTtJCSqHBLkhWIbbiqR0Y7DnRfrDYoIEVaKGn0O6VYM/edit?usp=sharing

Figures you'd have to do that, since the user is already banned from the forum...

I'll try to create the blacklist I mentioned earlier in a few hours, but come on... It does look like you are saying you are taking some action AFTER you have no other choice. I know altcoin bounties are worse than the wild west, but managers shouldn't be the ones encouraging it

As I mentioned before we use to hire our permanent translators [Permanent Italian translators - unsoindovo & Luigi21] and which I believe are very good, seeing their previous work. But recently they were active so we tried finding a new one and D_DOT got a history a translation job, He actually joined many campaigns before managed by reputed managers and got accepted in them. So we hired him as our translator for Foobee campaigns.

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We only used him recently in our last few campaigns, from which I can he got paid in only one. I will be rejecting him in the campaigns where he has yet to get paid/

Edit 2

His previous work: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1c2qrjUcN0rRP0zUMs_OOcsUlUZzxqOJH

I'm sorry irfan_pak10, but your answer does not add up. You ignored the proof of one Italian guy and asked for confirmation from another Italian guy? What's the difference? Did you have a special reason for not believing bitbollo in the first place? Or at least for not verifying his claim?

WOW So you are confirming that he was "not removed" until now, or generally unless banned or unless pointed out by tens of member?
The fact that he has been payed in FEW campaign it's just shocking .
Because other people (fake translator) get payed in your campaign

Moreover,
This is a sort of concession to me or to Italian Community? Have you seen that this is another alt-account of VIETNAMESE TRANSLATOR?
STOP I WILL NOT LINK ANYMORE NOTHING ;) there are enough proofs :)

LOL ;D
Here it's the same STOP. I WILL NOT MAKE ANY OTHER RESEARCH.

arif90900 - Italian ALTACCOUNT DDOT
gamezal - German
Manish2809 (Hindi) - ALTACCOUNT DDOT
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ejZ-_hCJhbZbLBwDmYX2n3_V201WQwtkJIWJ5wtkD7I/edit#gid=480175974

It's clear these guys are genius since they are also able to speak (in your campaign) this language.

gamezal - Russian
arif90900 - French
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ObeZgIaX66LtIOYoGD4VSw6gfjJ88kcd3AbFWjcpMbo/edit?usp=sharing

I have taken just the FIRST 2 SPREADSHEET THIS MORNING (7 and half Rome Time)
This means that in a less then 15-20 minutes I have been able to detect at least 2 fake translators from your campaign.
please note I am not speaking other languages but I can confirm that these guys are not speaking so many languages (and casually .... all are altaccount of D_DOT / Manish2809 /
ANOBTC (he is still my favorite ;) ...) / arif90900 /

And I was able to detect just checking 2 spreadsheet in few minutes...early morning.
did you have never noticed that these guys were able to speaking several languages?
PS this is "your job" and  you have you topic "list of translator" and more over a complete excel. If you don't get it............ ::)

At this point, your "clients" are aware that people enrolled in your translation seems able to speak several languages?

And you are completely unable to make your verify or understand correctly who is a trusted guy or who don't?
Or this guy create content from 8 years in Italian section. Definitely a Newbie "from India" it's more trusted and more logical sense  ::) LOL ;D at least is funny for me.


@Stalker22
I have posted a screenshot were it was clear ... that he was not interested to have a look on my reply.

He has availed this explanation (andI mean and I repeat, we are talking with a kind of expert in this field, but he was not able to detect a clear scam with multi account and pointed out by a DT2 User with several trust, active here.... from several years).


Well @irfan_pak10 thinks that this is a valid explanation (in fact he has not replied to me and payed him).
They (both guys) were thinking that "if this is not translated with GT this is ok" .... LOL
And I have discovered a lot of data just as hobby? Plus it's FULL OF ALT ACCOUNTS of "D_DOT" (ANOBTC yes he is still my favourite!!!) in translation list?

MA MIA FACCIA IL PIACERE (foreigners please check YT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fa3a50pLmu8 )

What this fake translator did is crazy and I think that managers should also be responsible for something like this, so @irfan_pak10 you should know that you are putting your reputation on the line for him.

I think that many translators from bitcointalk are just using google or other machine translations that are getting better and better, but they are still not good enough to correctly translate large documents like whitepapers.
There was even a case in our local forum with one member who was doing just that while he was using several alt accounts, he didn't stop even after we told him to stop doing that, but he ended up being banned now for plagiarism.
People are doing cheating like this even if they are speaking the language because it's faster and usually there is nobody to check the translation, that is the biggest problem.

again... history repeat itself
but
I am happy that this time the warning will be taken seriously by @irfan_pak10
since the precious one has been completely abandoned by him ::)

if any other italian would confirm:
@babo
@duesoldi
@gbianchi
@fillippone
it's appreciated, thank you. grazie.

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and....to "mr scammer fake italian"  
please remember that Italian is one of the hardest language that you can learn.
you don't know anything about our history so this is why you have such ludicrous result easy to be detected.

Even you can find a "good translator" you will be detected because you don't know nothing about "our tradition and many other things that only ITALIANI knows ;)

So what you're doing  It's just a waste a time like an idiot ;)
just my 2 cents but probably the same applies also to any other language..... so I guess it's ok this "money making machine" is OVER!
:P

I would say the above quoted paragraph has no sense whatsoever in Italian. Bitbollo is right, Italian is a difficult language, and this translator provides a very low quality work.