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https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2022/01/10/vaccine-police-founder-claims-drinking-your-own-urine-is-covid-19-antidote/

Saw this doing the rounds online and figured it was a joke. But no, it's real. I'm pretty sure these anti-vax "leaders" are just the world's biggest trolls at this point.

"We've already convinced these morons to take horse dewormer and shit themselves. What next?"
"Tell them to drink their own piss."
Rounds of laughter.

Don't laugh, this might be gross enough to overcome the fear of needles.

"Drink my own piss? Fuck it, ima get the jab and not tell anyone".

I suppose it's less harmful than other "remedies", such as drinking bleach or exposing your internal organs to happy sunshine therapy.
The #UrineIdiot hashtag is quite good.  ;D

Juan Manual Marquez is safe from Covid then. I remember him showing it on tweeter that it makes him stronger as he drinks his own urine and it's a good luck charm that's why he knock out Pacquiao.  That's a tip for anyone who has a phobia of needles.  Here's Manuel's tip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqxHfaIA8IU

If I couldn't travel somewhere that I need to go, I would rather be vaccinated.  They can avoid and fight the mandate but it's not going to help them, it's the government so just get vaccinated.

The funny thing is that if the mainsteam media reported that 'scientists say' drinking your own piss will stop the dreaded 'covid-19', every one of you idiots would do it without a second thought.  I cannot think of a single instance where any position supported by Dr. Fausti has not been treated as the word of God by you mass formation zombies (at the time when he happened to express said position...he flip-flops a fair bit.)

Wearing multiple masks is more absurd scientifically than drinking one's own piss, and it's even more disgusting to people who know a little bit about metabolism and how different organs (kidneys/bladder, gut, lungs, skin) excrete different waste products.

I would imagine wearing masks probably is quite disgusting when your breath smells like urine.

Scientifically it comes down to a matter of sterility, but I wouldn't really expect you to understand much about that.  It's a bit over your pay-grade so it would seem.  If a person is healthy and absent various kinds of urinary tract infections, fresh urine should be quite free of microbes.  Exhaled breath vastly less so.

I know people do sometimes drink fresh urine for assumed health reasons, but it isn't my thing and I've not put in any research into it.  (Which, parenthetically, means that I'm not going to spout off about it that much...I'm not a paid propagandist targeting the lowest common denominator of sheep with supposedly funny and largely bogus 'information' either.)  If someone does a proper study demonstrating positive effects of urine drinking, and if a demonstrably independent entity finds the results to be reproducible, I'll accept it.  I still wouldn't do it because my concern about the 'dangerous menace' of 'covid-19' is pegged at right about zero.  Right where it's been since mid 2020 when enough was scientifically understood to realize that the whole thing is a hoax and a fraud.

Edit:  BTW, I don't think that anyone suggests to let the piss sit around at room temp all day before drinking it.  From what little I've seen, those who are into it consume the urine right away.  Conversely, the law and rules in many places is that masks should be worn at all times through the work day.

I wouldn't be one bit surprised of the propagandist who wrote the tripe for Forbes went to some sex club and enjoyed a golden shower session (with his CNN friends) the day after he penned the piece.  Seems like being a creepy perv is pretty much a requirement for work in some of these propaganda rags.  Maybe even more important than being Jewish!

The latest data (https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.08.22268944v1.full.pdf) suggest quite strongly that masks are vital in reducing the spread. Airborne transmission is almost exclusively over a short distance over a short timeframe. If you can't socially distance, then masks are hugely protective.

Come now. Surely you know better than bother showing tvbcof evidence by now!

Unless... have you got that in a bitchute video?

The so-called 'paper' is fairly obviously a joke.  Even if it was not, I put a lot more stock in papers done back when we still had science.  That is to say, pre-2020.  There are plenty showing that masks of any sort are questionable at best against most viruses, and cloth masks are flat out dangerous to one's health and serve no purpose.  Obviously Dr. Fausti was well aware of this and he said so early on.  Later, in a desperate attempt to make people sick with bacterial pneumonia (which would be quietly counted as 'covid-19'), he flip-flopped (the flopped again to go double mask!)  The reason for trying to bump the 'covid-19' count was to further up the panic attack against the 'tard class.  Worked.

They somehow got the sheeple to believe that surgeons wear masks so they don't catch the flu from the person they are operating on.  Back then I wouldn't have thought this level of retardation to be possible.  Now I'll not be shocked at anything along these lines.

You mean flip-flop as in tailoring your position according to the available data? Rather than, say, starting at one ideological position when no data are available, and then resolutely sticking to it come what may, facts and evidence be damned, because the absolute best decision you can ever make is to never ever respond to evidence?

"Flip-flopping" is what science is built upon. Anything else is mindless zealotry.

Well, if you ask me, it does make sense that they're drinking their own urine. After all, they've been swallowing their own shit for years... ;D ;D

A real scientist will not 'flip-flop' a lot because the 'flip' phase should be absent.  That is to say, they should not take a position which is stronger than the available evidence in the first place.

If a careless scientist has made a mistake and concluded something incorrectly, and new properly done SCIENCE demonstrates the error, then yes, the appropriate action is to 'flop' and document carefully and transparently why and how the mistake was made.  In doing so the whole field of science moves forward.

A person like Dr. Fausti flip-flops regularly, and it's as obvious as the nose on one's face that it is nearly 100% political and financial.  When I person claims that 'going against me is going against science', you can be certain that there are some pretty twisted things going on around him and within his mind.  That's what we have with Fausti and he is distinctly not the kind of person the peeps want as a line of protection in the health field.  That's what Kary Mullis said (before his untimely death a few month before the plandemic operation was kicked off) but I didn't need Mullis to see this obvious reality.

Fausti IS exactly the kind of bureaucrat that the financial powers want in his position for a major democide operation, and that's why his is there.  He proved his metal in many minor ones previously and developed a warehouse sized closet full of skeletons in doing so.  He's also something like 80 years old so he can be flushed when he's become to much of a liability.  My guess is that that point is fast approaching, but I'm surprised he's still there quite frankly.

One new wave after another of Kovid-19 is wreaking havoc on us. Even after getting the vaccine now, it is heard that a new wave called "Omicron" has arrived,

and the anti-vaxxers say Corona's new antidote is human urine !!! "Ridiculous"  :D :D

 :-X "Drinking your own urine can curse covid," - says Christopher of Anti Vaxxer.  Even it is good that he said "OWN" didn't tell to eat others urine, :P

Seriously, in the end, I was not at all ready to hear such news.

Complete stupidity.

But what is surprising me is that some people were vaccinated but Corona virus is naturally and genetically modified and affecting eople that have been vaccinated before. From the first to Delta variant, it is now Omicron which was said to have mild effect but spreading efficiently and becoming more deadly.

But for people to be taking urine thinking it is an antidote, it is deceit.

I'm an 'anti-vaxxer' and know the arguments of many of the personalities on both sides.  I've never heard anyone argue for 'drinking their own piss' as a treatment for 'covid-19', and I don't recognize any of the personalities mentioned in the story.  If such piss-drinking proponents exist at all in the real world, they would be pretty fringe.  Seems like the kind of thing that Big Pharma would stage for their propagandists to put on 'comedy' shows and such.  It's a pretty easy little operation and they do it all the time, and it works like a charm on the 30% mass-formation'ers who tend to be very low information.  So low they don't even realize they've been chumped.

I am not sure who that person is, but I don't think he is representative of the people who have not, or do not want to get the covid vaccine. I doubt that many of the people who have not gotten the covid vax have ever even heard of this person.

I also don't think that stereotyping and stigmatizing people who have concerns about a vaccine (that are legitimate or not) can possibly lead to any positive health outcome. 

Exactly, it's not like real world antivaxxers would ever believe totally fringe unrealistic stupid shit like vaccines containing mind control 5G chips or gene therapy.

'Anti-vaxxers' tend to entertain these hypotheses mainly because there are tons of scientism rag stories about it, tons of 'TED Talk' class presentations about how they are doing it and how much more they have planned, tons of patents on the foundations of the technology, etc.

As for referring to the jabs as 'gene therapy', part of the reason they do so is that the pharma companies who were developing the technology were all to glad to call them that up to and including the first part of the plandemic.  The marketing research people told them that it was contributing to concern on the part of the sheeple and it would be harder to justify legal indemnity which they could get automatically be calling the technology a 'vaccine' (even after they find some corrupt bureaucrat to sign them out of EUA.)  So they stopped.  Similarly, they tried as best they could to hide the fact that the genes inserted genes by the adenovirus-based gene therapies (AZ, J&J, Sputnik, etc) were in the form of DNA which made it's way into the cell nucleus.  Adenovirus-carried genes have been the staple 'platform' for gene therapy for decades.  The mRNA platforms are somewhat newer and have always had issues.

Given that anti-vaxxers think using this word is so clever, proposal to call them "peeple" in return. You know, because they drink their own piss.

The anti-vaxxers I know think that covid is a joke and wouldn't worry about taking anything to prevent it...  More likely this is trolling the fearful as you know some liberal is in their shower with a mask on right now trying to figure out how to piss in their own mouth without removing their mask.

You can drink your own piss if you want, but I think if you're going to play into the nonsense there are more fun ways to do so: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ajherrington/2022/01/11/study-finds-cannabis-compounds-prevent-infection-by-covid-19-virus/?sh=355a65b71753

Well this is where I have to agree to disagree with you here OP. I'll not drink my urine out of fear of COVID or cure to COVID but rather I'll drink my own urine if I can't find any water if the power goes out and I can't find any underground sources but at least I'll filter it. You can drink your own urine hell you probably drank some the other day if you think about it urine from animals gets filtered by dirt in our natural ecosystem. It doesn't come out of thin air like stimulus or fiat does.

I don't want your stupid vaccine, and I don't want to drink my own piss.

Maybe I'm an anti-mRNA'er?  

If you think I'm going to shoot myself up with 3 concoctions that are instructing my cells to do something, which has never been tested long term, or on a mass scale.. y'all  trippin' on something special.

Whether a virus exists or it doesn't, whether it has been man made or not, I've seen enough evidence to know most of the hype is being financially and politically driven, especially most recently. Personally, I do think people are dying due to COVID and I do think it exists, but I believe somewhere along the lines stats and data are being skewed and potentially manipulated for various special interest reasons.

At the moment, I'd be worried about how eager and aggressive people are trying to push and require a vaccine, which is still getting people sick, and comes with its own side effects which most doctors will tell you "can't happen"... well, until a "new study" eventually comes out and tells you they were wrong.

I mean seriously, have any of you guys went back and looked at medicines or other prescriptions doctors gave you as a kid, maybe even as an adult?  Half of them don't exist anymore, pulled off the market because of the issues they cause.
... FFS, they were selling cigarettes to you (https://www.google.com/search?q=old+doctor+cigarette+ad).

It seems clear to me what the safest option is, for *most* humans, and it appears to be an effective way to remove the spread.. simply wear a good mask, proper hygiene, and socially distance during high spread times, and maybe kick up your vitamin intake. I'm not saying the vaccine doesn't work, but it's not as effective as they make it seem... and the way they push it on you, should scare you.

If I'm 80 years old and have health issues, I might opt for a new vaccine like this, but the majority of our population, especially kids, should really not be experimented on.

We went from trying to force people to wear masks (didn't go especially well), to now trying to force them to inject 3 shots, which themselves make a good amount of people feel sick.. and then force them to register some sort of card saying they've done it.. and then try requiring companies to check the cards. wtf.

There seems to be some next-level idiocracy shit happening on this planet... soon we'll be watering plants with BrawndoGatorade. Ya know, plants need electrolytes too...  :o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAqIJZeeXEc

.. brought to you by ibminer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoZ1-xPbNHg). *smh*

Another proof we may be devolving as species.

This can't be a serious argument against ivermectin.

If it is, then how would anyone justify any vaccine ever? Most of that is cultivated in chicken eggs. Most drugs are tested in animals first before human trials, because generally there is similar biology. Maybe people who say ivermectin is horse dewormer are also against every medicine? Both humans and horses take penicillin, so you should never have penicillin? Most people understand that the amount of medicinal dose would vary between a 300 kg horse and an 80 kg human. Imagine the argument, "Stop breathing horse air" -- sounds silly, doesn't it?

I don't know whether ivermectin works against covid (and have never considered taking it myself), but "ivermectin is horse dewormer" as an argument seems quite ... iffy.

literally taking the piss

The argument against ivermectin isn't that it's used in horses, but that it's a dewormer, and viruses aren't worms. The only reason anti-vax morons are taking horse dewormer specifically, is because veterinary drugs aren't as tightly controlled as human drugs. Human deworming drugs (including human formulations of ivermectin) are available, but only by prescription, and very few doctors are stupid enough to prescribe a dewormer for a virus.

Ok, but ivermectin is also a useful anti-parasitic and anti-inflammatory agent beyond worms. Ivermectin as dewormer causes paralysis in worms in both humans and horses. It has a number of possible side effects, so should be used very carefully (if ever). Due to the high standard of living most of us have, we don't contend with these parasites.

Malaria isn't a "worm" either and ivermectin is used as a treatment: https://malariajournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12936-015-0618-2

Ivermectin is also a topical cream with anti-inflammatory properties against rosacea:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6409879/

There are also uses for head lice and blepharitis (an eye condition):
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34173370/

So, yes, it is a horse dewormer, but it is also more than that. Whether ivermectin is useful for covid requires additional evidence (especially considering there are many possible side effects), but "it's horse dewormer" is a weak argument.

I'm going to bet that, in the future, people will be surprised at how much we current 'high standard of living' populations are 'contending' with various kinds of parasites.  Especially of those of the phyla protozoa (which Ivermectin can also be quite effective against.)

The people taking it for COVID aren't being prescribed a human formulation of this drug - they are taking the horse paste formulation, because generally doctors and other people who understand science and read evidence aren't stupid enough to prescribe drugs that don't work.

If someone was stupid enough to use an antibiotic which was specifically dosed and combined with other ingredients to make a formulation specifically targeted for, say, fish, which they bought in a pet store, then they are taking fish antibiotics. If someone eats a can of dog food - sure, it might still have chicken in it, but they are still eating dog food.

The disappointingly small minority of doctors who use Ivermectin and other early treatments claim that they lose almost zero patients, and those they do tend to have gotten treatment very very late.

The reason why it was important for corporate owned medicine and the hospitalist doctors that no treatment was authorized is that if it was, the EUA for the vax would not be legally possible.  Hence the bizarre attack on ivermectin and a bunch of other highly effective treatment options.  And hence the kinds of death numbers they needed to help panic the peeps with the plandemic psy-op and get them running to get an experimental gene therapy needle in their arm.

Most doctors are smart enough to know that they won't have a good career trajectory if they go against the corp/gov medical system.  Thankfully there were enough brave and ethical doctors that hundreds of thousands of lives have been saved.  If you count the peeps in India it could be millions.

Cool story. I'm absolutely certain that for the first time ever you'll be able to present some evidence to support your nonsense ramblings. ::)

That is indeed correct, it's a pretty logical point as well, but I don't expect anti-vaxxers to accept it. Let me also point out that it's not the first time masks are introduced due to a pandemic, they were also used during Influenza, in 1918, with conspiracy theorists still acting clever back then. On top of that, in China, even before Covid-19 appeared, it was common to wear a face mask in public, even if you were simply sick with the flu.

There are many interview with doctors presenting their results.  People who use only safe (e.g., censored) sources of information such as the mainstream corporate news, youtube, facebook, twitter, etc might not see them as easily, but even here some info gets through.  Rogan interviewed Dr. McCullough for instance and that got quite a bit of visibility even through the attempts to censor it.  McCullough is an academic physician with massive experience designing and running trails so he used his qualifications to design and run a variety of explorations into the subject of early treatments.

Interviews are meaningless. Everyone has an opinion, many of them are worthless.

You think these are the sources that actual doctors use? Lol. Not only do you try to lecture people when you have no evidence, but you can't even judge what constitutes evidence. Peak Dunning Kruger in action.

Case in point. Lol again.

You go and take your health advice from Joe Rogan and people who tell you to drink your own piss. Non morons will continue to look at the evidence from thousands of trials from hundreds of countries involving hundreds of millions of patients. ::)

Dr. McCullough is a cardiologist, professor at a medical school, and has the most research publications in the world in his field dealing with cardiology and nephrology, according to him. I have not seen anyone doubt his credentials, so I accept that he is telling the truth about his academic and research career. He isn't a conspiracy theorist, he's qualified. You might disagree with his opinions, but again, not a nutjob.

Joe Rogan isn't a medical doctor, he just interviews them, and mostly what Dr. McCullough emphasized during his interview was the need for early treatment in case someone did in fact get Covid. Vaccines will not stop infection anymore, so in the case that someone, vaxxed or not, does end up getting a serious infection, it's worth looking into treatment that would prevent someone from landing in the hospital. Because at the point of hospitalization, it's probably too late for any treatment plan to work.

Molnupiravir works, but it's expensive and Merck has exclusivity for many markets, if I understand correctly. Wouldn't be terrible if there was a cheaper alternative.

Oh, you mean this guy? https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/doctor-fired-spreading-covid-misinformation-170237445.html


He was fired for spreading lies about COVID, and then the healthcare system which fired him took out a restraining order against him because he lied and continued to claim affiliation and use titles they granted after they fired him.

What exact lies has McCullough told? You understand it's considered Covid misinformation to suggest that masks don't work very well, or suggesting that children aren't particularly vulnerable to Covid-19 and don't need to get vaccinated or boosted.

I recall seeing some of the most deranged conspiracy theorists on many other forums, probably some here too, suggest the COVID data could not be trusted, such as child hospitalization rates, because the way data collection worked at these medical institutions was that anyone with a positive COVID case was counted as being hospitalized due to COVID, with no distinction between that and hospitalization with COVID.

Here is Dr. Fauci saying what the conspiracy theorists have been saying for over a year, just recently.

https://www.newsweek.com/fauci-children-hospital-covid-omicron-1664676


If you said that child hospitalizations were over inflated, that was "COVID misinformation."

It's not very convincing to me that someone gets fired over such matters. And you might be right, he could have made demonstrably false statements which warrants being fired, but it's also true that anyone that goes against the traditionally accepted COVID narrative will be thrown out on the streets.

Recall when Dr. Fauci was included in an email with Francis Collins, who conspired for "a quick and devastating published take down" of three epidemiologists that had the audacity to question the efficacy of lockdowns.

https://www.aier.org/article/fauci-emails-and-some-alleged-science/

These "fringe" epidemiologists were from Harvard, Stanford, and Oxford.

And as we all know, lockdowns have been largely ineffective.

Guess those epidemiologists were involved in COVID misinformation at the time.

So you don't know why McCullough was fired but something something Fauci?

I can't wait until someone (Al Gore?) invents a tool to search the internet, this would make people so much better informed.

We know why he was removed, COVID disinformation. And COVID disinformation changes depending on whatever people like Dr. Fauci wants to say. Regardless of whatever alleged disinformation he may or may not have spread, character attacks of a physician who is the most published author in cardiology and nephrology seems perfectly in line with people who don't want to hear what he has to say. His qualifications are not in dispute.

And by the way, he could be a quack. I just have not seen any legitimate arguments that he is. If you watch his interviews, his focus is on pre-hospital treatment of COVID patients if they get infected. He's not an anti-vaxxer.

Let me rephrase. What was it exactly that McCullough said that got him fired?

HCQ is effective - it isn't.
There is no asymptomatic spread - there is.
There are no reinfections - there are.
Vaccines don't work against Delta - they do.

That's just off the top of my head, since I don't exactly spend my time listening to quacks. I'm sure you could find more with a quick Google search.

There is no evidence of this beyond his own claims, remembering of course he regularly lies when it suits him. I did a quick pubmed search for him and found 663 publications. I also did a search for the first well known cardiologist I could think of, Eugene Braunwald, and found 1,547 publications.

And regardless, absolute number of publications is more or less irrelevant. I could churn out 1,000 publications in to quack journals with financial motives, while a single publication in the Lancet or NEJM would say much more about my credentials.

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Telling that you are more focused on the opinions of one or two carefully selected doctors rather than the 99.9% of doctors calling them quacks, or the hundreds of millions of data points we have on this.

Mask mandate states show absolutely no reduction in cases, schools with mask mandates show no lower case count compared to no mask schools, they have literally 0 effect on the state of covid it seems. Strange indeed.

I really like the fact that mask propagandists lite Fauci first concluded they do not work against viral spread then changed his/their minds to it is so effective we must mandate it!!

Drinking urine sounds questionable even though many does it and it is safe.

Is it safe to assume that you're not actually a qualified biochemist?
Have you actually looked at the studies and associated data around mask efficacy? Surgical masks are obviously better than simple cloth masks, but the data show that cloth masks do have a protective effect. Even if they aren't 100% effective, they are still going to reduce viral load.

I am qualified, I would say :) 5 years of biochemistry and engineering studies resulting in a M.sc in protein science and yeah viruses are essentially proteins with some RNA or DNa inside :).. I am not arguing that the mask could not work in theory or in a very controlled environment, for preventing droplets to spreading in the air, to stop a single virus is impossible for simple N/M 95/94 masks and not what they are designed to do.
I am saying masks SEEM to have no effect on the spread in society if you compare mask mandate schools and states with non mandate schools and states. It even seems like mask mandate states are worse off, and i said strange.
I would guess that masks are used poorly and that masked citizens think they are protected more than they actually are, which leads to unnecessary risk behavior.

I think it is fair to say that you are a certifiable moron.

I would like to see some kind of evidence for your saying, but I highly doubt it that there is any. As I've mentioned before, masks were a common practice even in the past, during the Influenza pandemic in 1918. Even in theory, it's pretty logical why masks are a preventive measure of infection, doctors always used them during medical procedures to avoid infecting the patient. If it wasn't for the mask mandate, especially throughout the first phases of Covid-19, we would definitely have a dramatically higher number of cases, and deaths of course.

A quick look at WHO's website may educate you, unless you know better.
https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-masks

Seems o_e_l_e_o must have some "golden shower" withdraws from lockdowns or something. Is the "Anti-vaxxers" some kind of special golden shower procedure ?
Urine isn't all that much different to blood.and some people lick it off when they cut themself. All animals do lick wounds.
Back in the day after the last world war people with any kind of throat infection gargled some of the own piss to effectively deal with the situation at hand. In modern days there is no need to do so, plenty choices available to deal with it like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquine or https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35007072/
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This is still a Bitcoin forum or is it now xrp or other junk craps domain?
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Hard evidence or not, during april of 2021 states with no mask mandates like Texas, Georgia, South dakota, Tennessee, Mississippi etc it can be seen clearly that the "flattening" of the case curve happened much earlier and faster. New Jersey and New York saw their cases stay high much later into spring / summer. All i said was that masks seem to have little effect if you compare mandate states with non mandate states, and this can be seen by just looking at the case curves of these states, anyone can check it out, its public data. I am not saying it is the masks that works or not, just that it is strange that there is no visible effect of these mandates ergo they are not backed by data.

1. I would not use a political organisation with funding from pharma companies and / or investors therein as a source of information.
2. 1918 was a disaster, not sure masks did much good there, especially when considering most died of secondary bacterial infections which masks could actually prevent hmm again strange...
3. Masks worn during operations is not intended to stop airborne viruses but droplets rather and the risk of bacterial infections that comes with droplets. If doctors operated during an infection with an airborne virus i would argue that the patient could be infected just as well with or without and open wound.

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Could you issue such a certificate please, might be a mandate coming out of Bidens office anyday now! I am pretty sure he needs one aswell :)

I only recall a few of his statements that he mentioned with his interview with Joe Rogan, where he explains the context. Some of these are misleading. He said there were no reinfections before omicron, and he was generally correct. With the alpha strain, there was no reinfection. With delta, there wasn't much either. He's acknowledged that reinfection is possible with omicron. And he was minimizing the significance of asymptomatic spread from what I recall. Dr. Fauci himself says the asymptomatic do not act as chief vectors of transmission, so there's clear disagreement to the extent asymptomatic individuals spread Covid. I didn't take from his statement that it was impossible for an asymptomatic person to spread Covid, but rather symptomatic individuals drive spread, which isn't an unreasonable theory.



I am not suggesting that people like Dr. McCullough or Dr. Malone have all the answers, just that people with politically inconvenient opinions about COVID have been shut down. Didn't 99 percent of doctors say we needed lockdowns too? Seemingly the few experts on public health that disagreed with the lockdowns were targeted. It was over a year after lockdowns that some officials at WHO admitted lockdowns weren't a feasible strategy. They all seem to be significantly behind, it would seem.

Remember when "doctors" suggested it was okay to gather in large crowds as long as it was for protesting for social justice?

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/05/health/health-care-open-letter-protests-coronavirus-trnd/index.html

I don't see anyone calling these people quacks, I wonder why that is.

People who spread misinformation (whether intentionally or through sheer stupidity and laziness) are shut down. This is why, for example, the pathological liar Donald Trump was kicked from Twitter. You should see some of the utter crap spouted by anti-vaxxers. And if you refute it, they refuse to engage, and simply share whatever comes out of the sewer pipe next.


That's not quite what they said though, is it? I mean, the headline from your link is "Don't shut down protests using coronavirus concerns as an excuse".
I'm sure you're aware that there is a history of governments using certain situations as an excuse to impose draconian new laws, and to restrict civil liberties, as we saw for example in the aftermath of 9/11.

Twitter is kicking itself. Users registering in all kinds of new sides what have popped up and want return, gone for good.
Someone willing to spend x amount of energy/time will do so, no matter what, if banned at one place it will be at another.
Twitter obviously wants a bit of decentralization, true Bitcoin spirit.

I don't treat Trump like a medical doctor. He spouts off what he wants to and so I don't take medical advice from him. Tanning advice, maybe.


Or COVID lockdowns, perhaps?

Governments implemented all kinds of restrictions, you couldn't gather in places of worship if you wanted to because any congregate settings were deemed to be unsafe. The government can use COVID as an excuse to stop religious practices or recreational practices, but they can't use COVID to stop radical racial demonstrations, plenty of which erupted oi violence, according to the 1200 doctors that signed that letter. Do you see the double standard here?

I see a distinction.

It does not benefit the government to stop people going out to the pub.
It does benefit the government to stop people protesting against the government.

If they have no incentive to stop people going to the pub, then it seems likely that there is a legitimate reason to stop people going to the pub.
Perhaps there is also a reason to stop people gathering in a crowd and protesting against the government. Or perhaps if they're all wearing masks it's less of an issue. Perhaps if they're also, somehow, social distancing, it's even less of an issue. Or perhaps it is genuinely a public health risk for them to gather like that.

I can certainly see that having a load of protesters in close proximity for a prolonged period of time during a respiratory pandemic could be unsafe. But that's not really the issue. The issue is the government using the pandemic as an excuse to clamp down on activities that are critical of the government.

If there are 10,000 people gathered together protesting, and the government says "These people shouldn't be gathering like that. Protests are unsafe and are now banned" ... then that's one thing. But if one person then stands outside the city hall with a placard, and the government arrest him because "Hey, don't you remember? We said protests are unsafe and are now banned" then that's quite a different thing.

Hey, we can shut this guy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381892.0) down, right? Because pandemic.

I'm quite certain there was a Trump rally around the same time when street protests were taking place so it doesn't look like the government was particularly keen on using "COVID as an excuse to stop religious practices or recreational practices".

Anyway, what does all this have to do with drinking pee-pee?

Localities in the US and plenty of places outside of the US were stopping gatherings. It just seemed the health experts were so keen on stopping certain gatherings while not stopping others. Only difference was one was one gathering was politically feasible.



Maybe the theme of all the COVID hysteria is that people do unreasonable things when they're afraid, including drinking their own piss. Though this story is isolated, I recall a story in which a mother loaded her own child into the trunk of her car because she had COVID. This may have been in Texas. And apparently the mother was a teacher too so I can't imagine what type of education she's providing to others.

I get what you're saying... but that's some pretty "unreasonable" stuff. I can't say I'd ever see myself drinking piss because of a virus.. but maybe if I find myself stranded in the desert or something?? :P

Outside of Fauci, I honestly don't know a whole lot about the specific Dr's mentioned here (outside of what I saw in some of the links provided..), but I've definitely seen double standards, everywhere (insert meme :) ). I think some of it may partially be based on hysteria from decision makers, leading to bad decisions, which creates the double standards.. but a lot of it seems driven by political strategies or agendas trying to seize the opportunity, on various levels of governments. I think it all just causes confusion and distrust among people.

A lot of weird stuff going on these days, and 2022 doesn't seem to be changing the trend so far.
.. life's too short for all this crap to complicate it!

Antidote for the Vaccinated
https://www.bitchute.com/video/JPnHSR3shpsq/?list=subscriptions

Lmao. Heard it here first folks. Urine cures everything from cancer to hair loss!

Yet another data point for my ongoing study entitled "Is there anything anti-vax morons won't believe if it's posted in a Bitchute video?".

Some/most of them/us wouldn't believe that cloth masks stop aerosolized viruses in any meaningful way.  The conjecture is both ludicrous on it's face, and nearly all seemingly legitimate scientific research on the matter demonstrates that it is non-sense.  There are valid reasons to believe that over-use of such devices contributes significantly to other kinds of risks and is silly unless one is painting a house, or perhaps riding public transportation in a society where tuberculosis is endemic.

As for urine therapy, I personally can conceive of some plausible mechanisms for beneficial effect, but the same can be said for almost anything else.  I've not heard anything especially convincing (including Dr. Group's vid), but I also have not looked very hard.  If/when I have a compelling personal need, urine therapy will be on my list of things to explore more deeply.  In contrast, 'crystal therapy' probably will not.

I will be paying attention to what the medical profession hospitalists suggest as well, but it will be mostly to figure out what to avoid or try as a last resort, and what to research as probable counter-productive toxins.

               Lol, I don't even know if I should be laughing or be worried about where the human evolution is heading now. Instead of going forward we seem to ba going backwards. This is madness and very misleading although might be quite hilarious, if it happens to someone I know or care about specially close friends and family, it'll be a nightmare trying to change their views.

That's how the medical establishment felt about some goofy so-called 'doctor' who had this crazy idea that unsanitary conditions in a hospital contributed to infection.

After reducing the rate of sepsis down to near zero in his ward by asking the medical staff to wash their hands, Ignaz Semmelweis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis) was lauded by his peers as a great hero of medical science.  Just kidding; they had him committed to a mental institution where he was beaten by the guards and died from an infection of a wound he received during the assault.

TBF anti-vaxxers are not the first fringe group to advocate drinking urine. If you think about it, it's kinda silly since it's waste. Why would you want something your body already tried to get rid off? We're not rabbits than need to eat our own poop to redigest it.

I wouldn't even drink my urine straight in a survival situation coz that'll just lead to more problem.

Lucky i am not vaccinated, so no need to venture into that dark alleyway to cleans out the toxins.  Antidote for the Vaccinated (https://www.bitchute.com/video/JPnHSR3shpsq/?list=subscriptions)

https://patents.google.com/patent/US6896907B2/en

Medicinal Properties of Cow Urine
https://healthveda.com/medicinal-properties-of-cow-urine-6528

Gomutra (Cow Urine) Benefits, Uses, Dosage and Side Effects
https://www.ayurtimes.com/gomutra/

https://www.exportersindia.com/product-detail/ayurvedic-cow-urine-4326336.htm

https://thelondonpost.net/cow-urine-available-hindu-blessing-rituals-food-business-uk/
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https://i.ibb.co/2SRzyPr/Unt5.jpg (https://ibb.co/r3qBmMh)

Notice all your links mention Hinduism? Cows are sacred to the Hindus so they drink cow piss because they don't know any better. It's seen as a holy animal. Try drinking cow piss and you'll end up with something a whole lot worse than COVID.

They should pasteurize it.     8)

The joke here is pretty soon they'll use it in lieu of fertilizer for the crops and you'll eat them unbeknownst to you. Its all thanks to our wonderful leader Joe Biden. He is just so wonderful and sharp. He can fix anything by blaming someone else. 

               Dude, you are literally comparing sanitation and cleanliness to urine consumption. Are you sure you're convinced with your own comparison? Try puting yourself at my end and I tell you such argument. What would you think? Everyone has their own view and mine is not in favor of urine consumption and by your response I believe you agree to urine consumption. That's your decision and I respect that. Hope you'd respect mine as well.

               The problem is that several tests are needed to deem some remedy to be effective to the majority. That doctor's case is sad and unfortunate it is what it is. If people accept just about any remedy made out there the consequences would be fatal. Don't hate on skeptisism, if not for it human medecine nevee would've advanced to this point.

You are missing the point.  Completely!  My point is about thoughtless rejection of unorthodox ideas.

On the urine thing I won't even bother to put forward any hypotheses about biochemistry and physiology which might apply because they would almost certainly go right over your head scientifically and it would be a waste of time.

Again, I don't drink my own urine (or anyone/anything elses'), have no plans to, and am not suggesting it to anyone.  I simply don't reject the utility or effectiveness for certain conditions out-of-hand without research, and have not done the research.

Now 20 US states liquefy vaccine-murdered people and spread their flesh goo on food crops as “fertilizer” - https://www.sgtreport.com/2021/05/now-20-us-states-liquefy-vaccine-murdered-people-and-spread-their-flesh-goo-on-food-crops-as-fertilizer/

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=states+that+use+dead+people+for+fertilizer&ia=web


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               Reading back, I admit I really did misunderstood your message, apologies brother. I just couldn't quite wrap my head around the idea since some people do drink urine and have seen it with my own eyes either for some religious beliefs or as a traditional remedy for some ailments. Maybe that's why my thoughts immediately jumped into direct consumption.

               But yes, I do believe that any possibility should be looked at and studied and if it does give out significant results, then there are lots of ways to remove impurities or any unwanted substances from whatever remedies are there by then, be it urine or not.

If i may ask how did you that urine substance is good to take in some illness. Let me tell you true live story. Their was a time i was seriously ill and moved round hospitals i know but the illness persist, but directed herbalist shrine and was told to be taken my morning pissed and evening.and with the helps of the urine liquid i regained my health. Urine taste is like salty taste with little bitterness. So urine is not harmful in human system especially the system of ill one

Animals don't evolve to waste good things, and no animal I know of consumes it's own urine as a normal operating procedure.  I would expect that in 'normal' times urine has simply nothing particularly valuable.  Clearly it doesn't kill a person either provided it is not contaminated, and anyone who has forgotten to flush the toilet can attest to the fact that it becomes rancid pretty quickly even if (again, in the normal case) it starts out sterile.

In corner cases where, say, one is fighting a (non-bladder) infection or some such, I could imagine it containing mis-filtered antibodies, antigens, exosomes, etc which if re-consumed into the digestive system would spur an increased efforts by the immune system to target appropriately.  Even here though I am dubious because if the practice were truly effective, I would anticipate  that one would experience a palpable desire to drink one's own urine during certain kinds of illness, and I've never felt such a desire.  That would be just one hypothetical.  The body with all it's systems, feedback loops, interactions with the environment, etc, is pretty damned complex.

Again, I'm not saying that there is ever any reason at all to drink one's own urine.  Simply that someone telling you 'no, never' under the auspices of knowing everything there is or ever will be to know about medicine and science is unlikely to be qualified to do so.  They probably think they know more than they do.

Or they are trying to pump some talking point designed by social engineers and thought to be possibly effective at herding the sheep in for 'their' shots.  And then pushed out for distribution to the troll farm 'social media influencer' contractors.  I've seen the Urine thing pushed out in various other outlets as well.  Other examples of this 'messaging campaign' phenomenon include:

 - 'I've shot up so many street drugs that I can handle Pfizer/Moderna whatever is in it' and

 - 'I and my partner, are so excited and cannot wait to get the shots.'

Edit: slight

I see this thread is still floating around.  Says a lot about the stupidity of liberals...

As someone who is now labeled an anti-vaxxer because I don't play into this flu fantasy I can tell you that no urine is being consumed.  In fact, I haven't changed my behavior at all throughout this pandemic.  It's flawed logic to think that anyone who believes this pandemic is bullshit would adjust their behavior.  I just kept on living my life and ignored the lies forced on us as a guise to print 10 trillion dollars. 

Saying someone is an anti-vaxxer because they don't want to take part in the mental illness that is fear of the flu is almost as bad as saying someone is homophobic because they don't want to participate in your mental illness of thinking you were born the wrong gender. 

How about we stop labeling people and making crazy claims about them when they don't want to participate in your mental illness? 

FWIW, I will not label you as mentally ill for bringing up your gender issues in unrelated threads. I hope this helps you cope.

Right, because the side claiming that drinking your own urine cures everything from AIDS to cancer are the sane ones. ::)

The amusing thing is that if Dr. Fausti proclaimed that his partner Moderna had magic pixie dust which would treat urine to make it 'safe and effective' for injection, most people would do it happily.  To do their part for 'the greater good' of course.  And if 'the science' showed the the procedure needed to be re-done monthly, well, 'that's the science'.

I used to wonder how in the hell could you get the Babylonians or Aztecs could bring their kids in to be sacrificed by the priest.  After the covaids psy-op it is quite a bit more clear to me.

lol. theres these things called "peer review" and "scientific method." its not like its a personal opinion..

A lot of what is in urine is stuff that the body is trying to get rid of. When a person drinks his own urine, his body recognizes the stuff that should be expelled, and works hard to get rid of that stuff. That's why people often feel good after they drink their own piss for a while. The immune system was trained by urine drinking as to what it needs to remove more of.


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Not any more.  They have been replace by these things called 'intellectual property' and 'captured regulatory agencies' in the 'new normal' technocratic dictatorship.  That's why Pfizer and the FDA wanted 75 years to release the 'study' data on their gene therapy injection.

No no no, you don't understand! If it isn't in some basement dweller's Bitchute vlog, then it isn't real knowledge. ::)

if you look it in a different perspective..

even mentally ill people don't want injections in their body

they rather trust their own urine or cow's urine than those big pharma kill and disease shots LOL

it is an inherent and basic instinct that even mentally ill posses, now if you have been psyop'd/ brainwashed, even if you know deep inside your gut that something is not right, you still inject some foreign substance in your body because (insert programming here  ;D )   

The only person I've seen say that is you.  Seems like you're angry that you fell for the vax and now have a weakened immune response as a result so you're taking your anger out on the people who were smart enough to think for themselves.  If we're going to cast out claims, you could at least have them based in reality...  Like, you think the people who identify as women but can't define them are the sane ones?  At least that point is valid.  Yours is some made up nonsense that only an idiot liberal who believes everything the news tells them would think has any basis in reality.

If there is one person here who I would bet money did NOT get the coviads gene therapy injection into his own arm it would be are friend oileo.

Literally from this thread:

When exactly am I going to die again? Originally it was within months of the first vaccine. Then it was definitely the second one that was going to turn me in to a 5G zombie. Then it was the booster that was definitely going to edit my genes and control my mind. I just can't keep up!

i know. i mean im gonna get my 4th shot next week as my internet is slowing down and that should bring it up to, what, 8G level if theyre accumulative.

prolly go with moderna as my first 3 were pfizer.

COLLECT THEM ALL!

How would I know when you're going to die?  I only know you won't die from covid, with or without the vaccine (assuming you aren't fighting off serious medical illness already and I'm not talking about mental illness of thinking kindergarten students need access to tampons or that biology doesn't determine sex), but with the vaccine you'll probably have a harder time fighting off covid in the future once all this hysteria settles down and people stop lining up to get injected with a substance that actually achieves the opposite of it's claim for people with healthy immune systems.  On the plus side though, we're seeing unprecedented inflation and healthcare companies making record profits, so I guess it's mission accomplished?  Now people can suffer for real for a few years as this coming recession absolutely destroys the middle class and causes another housing market collapse that will reduce the level of home ownership in this country.  Not to mention all the microplastics obliterating people's lungs as a result of all this forced mask wearing giving the medical industry a gift that will last decades.  Trump was 100% right that if Democrats got in control the solution would be worse than the cause.  Welcome to the worse solution.  It will be more clear to those without foresight in another two years and it won't be due to a war or whatever the next BS false flag we see in the media is when this Ukraine business is finished.

That's why vaccinated people have a lower death rate and lower hospital admission rate?

That's why vaccinated people have a lower death rate and lower hospital admission rate?

Agreed. Great argument to do away with our broken healthcare system and implement a far superior single payer system.

That's why surgeons who have been wearing masks for hours a day for years all die from microplastic induced lung disease. Oh no wait.

So we'll see in two years? Cool. Just so I can mark it on my calendar. Anti-vaxxers were telling me that I would be dead in two years two years ago. Guess I've got to wait another two years? I just can't keep up with these goalposts!

Partly because it is a bad career move for 'medical professionals' to produce data which 'causes vaccine hesitancy'.  Bogus data gets framed in misleading ways (as you are doing here.)  Also, one can die from getting 'bitten by a cow' because there is a medical code for it unlike being killed by the experimental gene therapy injection.


Interestingly, we know some pre-scamdemic science about masks due to studies pushed for by surgeons who where sick of the anti-science nonsense around some of the procedures.

Somehow the scamdemic designers convinced the idiot classes that surgeons wear masks to keep from getting respiratory viral infections from the guy on the operating table or vice-versa.  I guess I really shouldn't have been surprised that it was so easy to do this.  Hell, even a good number of doctors and nurses probably now believe this as well such seems to be their lack of understanding of science and medicine.

Oh dear, wrong again.

ICD-10 classification:
T80.52 - Anaphylactic reaction due to vaccination
T80.62 - Other serum reaction due to vaccination
T88.0 - Infection following immunization
T88.1 - Other complications following immunization, not elsewhere classified

Oh, we do? Cool. Links to these studies please.

medical codes forr covid vaccine reactions etc. much more can easily be found.
IOW no one is hiding things that can happen.

https://icd10monitor.com/coding-covid-19-vaccination/



edit: o_e_l_e_o beat me to it. but ill leave this though.

the medical people know how disgusted we are when saliva comes out of a person while talking. you don't want any of it landing on your face.

many are misinformed and assumes when saliva lands on your skin can be the cause of contamination to covid, they advise all at least to protect from the contagious virus. but drinking urine is too extreme. there is also a community in India that applies cow dung all over their body to protect themselves from covid.

i had to check this. yup

https://www.businessinsider.com/india-doctors-warn-smearing-cow-dung-body-not-fight-covid-2021-5?op=1

Dr. Andrew Kaufman has shown us that there aren't any viruses that anybody has proven. At least that they don't exist in free state to infect anybody. How has he show this to us? He has perused loads of medical papers and studies that talk about Covid and other viruses, and has found that ALL of them have wording that actually says that they are guessing about the existence of viruses in a free state.

See https://odysee.com/@DrAndrewKaufman:f/The_Straight_Unswiveled_Truth_On_Snake_Venom_Claims_with_Andrew_Kaufman_MD:4?fbclid=IwAR2nbAI6VlX3k0ZzWcX68nCsgu0UnmHa6RCUGP_kNRrCK_zqlnbXpz_bzwE, and go from there to the rest of Dr. Andrew's videos... especially https://odysee.com/@theTruth:d/Dr.-Andrew-Kaufman-vs.-Dr.-Judy-Mikovitz:6.

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Funny how ideas/framings/jokes seem to get around:  Around 16:20 here:

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/ZwXDwbkuPx40/

It would not surprise me if Dr. Marternson reads this board, nor would it surprise me if he thought up this in a parallel manner as his thoughts and mine do seem to parallel one another a lot of times.

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On the utility of the consumption of waste products, it seems plausible to me that there could be some signaling and feedback which occurs through the gut.  A person with upper-respiratory or large pulmonary infection ends up consuming quite a lot of contaminated mucus generated in fighting said infection.  Seems plausible to me that a certain fraction of the constituents of said mucus are detected at various levels of the digestive process and feed back to the immune system to modulate it's functions.

I don't think that such a hypothesis is 'mine'.  I think I remember reading it somewhere, then further considering it...usually when I have a stuffy nose.  I didn't research the hypothesis in any detail or pay much attention to it since it isn't very important to me.  What I did do was to remember the general outline of the hypothesis and further wondered if it could map in some way to consumption of other waste products which could also inform about the condition of one's body.

Again, I'm not about to start drinking urine or any such thing and not suggesting it to anyone else.  Nor have I run across anyone else in the 'anti-vax' community who is doing so.  My comments are only related to the practice of the classic scientific method.  deGrasse-Tyson is obviously a spokesman for the 'scientism method', and I pity the fools who expect good results from such a method.  They are obviously part-way into the culling process that Transhumanist technocrats such as deGrasse-Tyson are working on.  I don't think that Martenson or almost anyone else understands deGrasse-Tyson very well.  I don't think that deGrasse-Tyson is the fool that he would like people to think he is.

Maybe this is why US  celebrities have been admitting to being into golden showers recently? (Yung Miami, Amara La Negra, Kerry Katona, Ricky Martin)

They are secretly anti-vaxxers  ;D

I doubt it and personally I would guess that celebrities saying those things have more to do with attention seeking and the fact society seems to be more open to some fetishes.

You would be impressed of how many scandalous things people in the spectacle and music are willing to do (pushed by their agencies) in order to steal some percentage of spotlight in magazines and news.  ::)


Western society is more bizarre with every year that passes.

Many additional studies are coming out regarding how to clear our bodies of spike proteins... even the ones that are produced by the covid vaxxes. Here's one that has been around for a while, but is finally becoming popular.


Dr. Peter McCullough – “This Spike Protein is a Killer” (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/342145-2023-04-10-dr-peter-mccullough-this-spike-protein-is-a-killer.htm)

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https://www.zerohedge.com/sponsored-post/dr-peter-mccullough-spike-protein-killer
Dr. McCullough wasn't afraid to stand up to big pharma, big tech and big government during the pandemic, and he is showing that same courage today.

"This spike protein is a killer, and it rips through the hearts of men and women," said Dr. McCullough in a new video where he calls the response of the FDA and the CDC to the dangers of spike protein as "criminal."

The good news is that, despite censorship by the mainstream medical community, solutions exist to deal with this deadly spike protein. Dr. Peter McCullough notes the following potential remedies:

1.      Prescription Ivermectin

2.      Prescription Low-Dose Naltrexone

3.      Over-the-counter Nattokinase

In particular, nattokinase shows great promise. From Dr. McCullough:

I have found nattokinase, the Japanese product derived from natto (a traditional Japanese food made from whole soybeans that have been fermented with Bacillus subtilis var. natto.) to be the most compelling and scientifically supported approach to clear Spike protein out of the body via proteolytic degradation.
... (https://www.zerohedge.com/sponsored-post/dr-peter-mccullough-spike-protein-killer)

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Isn't it time we stopped referring to the covid injections as "vaccinations". It is bringing beneficial vaccines into disrepute, and turning people away from the benefits of true vaccines that are used correctly.

Indeed. Enough time has passed and there is enough data that shows people were better off not being “vaccinated” and I think that’s not going to be good for real vaccines going forward. I know I’ll never get another one regardless of what lies I’m told. Even the claims made in this thread have all been debunked. All the data is the same. People who got vaccinated and hospitalized died at the highest rate. Hospitals were literally killing people by putting them on ventilators. The countries with the least vaccinated had the highest survival rate. Only a stubborn idiot would still be defending these covid shots. 

As for the urine claim. I still haven’t drank any but I sure feel like an anti-vaxxer now. Just so glad I stuck to my guns, didn’t fall for the peer pressure and government propaganda. Although being completely right on from the beginning (even my refusal to participate in escrows for masks and ventilators) doesn’t bring me joy. I won’t even say I told you so. I really just wanted to help people. I’m sure those who fell for the lies did too, but it’s time to admit when you’re wrong.

One of the major questions is, Are any vaccinations worth it? The cancer or diabetes or loads of other diseases that people get, might have been aggravated into being by the vaccinations they got 20 or 30 years ago.

For anybody who is serious about listening/watching a video about the basics of scientific consensus, especially regarding the covid vaxxes and their creator companies, try this one - https://www.bitchute.com/video/Yjd0thbTj43Q/. It's very interesting, and scientifically explained in layman's terms.

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No, better to just let children needlessly die of preventable diseases. ::) What an absolutely monstrous opinion to hold.

Also pretty telling that this thread has devolved in to anti-vaxxers genuinely, and without a hint of irony, discussing the benefits of drinking their own piss.