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Couple of days ago Academy released nominees for the 94th Oscar awards in 24 categories so like in previous year I've decided to start the thread where we can talk about how we think will (or at least should) win the award. All odds are taken from https://m.nicerodds.co.uk/academy-award. So far they provided odds for only couple of main categories so I will fill up rest of those when they become available.

Official website: https://www.oscars.org/

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Here are all the nominees in 24 categories:

Best picture
The Power of the Dog 1.8
CODA 2
Belfast 15
King Richard 23
Dune 26
West Side Story 41
Licorice Pizza 51
Drive My Car 67
Don't Look Up 81
Nightmare Alley 101

Best director
Jane Campion (The Power of the Dog) 1.12
Kenneth Branagh (Belfast) 7
Paul Thomas Anderson (Licorice Pizza) 11
Steven Spielberg (West Side Story) 34
Ryusuke Hamaguchi (Drive My Car) 46

Best actor
Will Smith (King Richard) 1.12
Benedict Cumberbatch (The Power of the Dog) 7
Andrew Garfield (Tick, Tick... Boom!) 11
Denzel Washington (The Tragedy of Macbeth) 34
Javier Bardem (Being the Ricardos) 46

Best actress
Jessica Chastain (The Eyes of Tammy Faye) 1.67
Nicole Kidman (Being the Ricardos) 4
Penelope Cruz (Parallel Mothers) 6
Kristen Stewart (Spencer) 8.5
Olivia Colman (The Lost Daughter) 10

Best Supporting Actor
Troy Kotsur (CODA) 1.2
Kodi Smit-McPhee (The Power of the Dog) 4.5
Ciaran Hinds (Belfast) 26
J.K. Simmons (Being the Ricardos) 34
Jesse Plemons (The Power of the Dog) 34

Best Supporting Actress
Ariana DeBose (West Side Story) 1.08
Kirsten Dunst (The Power of the Dog) 7
Aunjanue Ellis (King Richard) 19
Judi Dench (Belfast) 26
Jessie Buckley (The Lost Daughter) 34

Best Original Screenplay
Licorice Pizza 1.95
Belfast 2.2
Don't Look Up 8
The Worst Person in the World 10
King Richard 26

Best Adapted Screenplay
CODA 1.5
The Power of the Dog 3
The Lost Daughter 8
Drive My Car 17
Dune 26

Best International Feature Film
Drive My Car 1.08
The Worst Person in the World 8.5
Flee 11
Lunana: A Yak in the Classroom 21
The Hand of God 21

Best Documentary Feature
Summer of Soul (...or, When the Revolution Could Not Be Televised) 1.25
Flee 3.75
Attica 13
Ascension 26
Writing with Fire 26

Best Animated Feature
Encanto 1.06
The Mitchells vs the Machines 8
Flee 15
Luca 19
Raya and the Last Dragon 34


Best visual effects
Dune 1.04
Spider-Man: No Way Home 10
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings 15
No Time to Die 21
Free Guy 34

Best cinematography
Dune 1.22
The Power of The Dog 3.85
The Tragedy of Macbeth 10
West Side Story 34
Nightmare Alley 41

Best production design
Dune 1.36
Nightmare Alley 3.3
West Side Story 11
The Tragedy of Macbeth 17
The Power of The Dog 21

Best Sound
Dune 1.08
No Time to Die 10
West Side Story 10
The Power of The Dog 17
Belfast 21

Best Original Score
Hans Zimmer (Dune) 1.15
Jonny Greenwood (The Power of The Dog) 4.5
Germaine Franco (Encanto) 10.3
Nicholas Britell (Don't Look Up) 17
Alberto Iglesias (Parallel Mothers) 29

Best original song
No Time To Die - Billie Eilish & Finneas O'Connell (No Time to Die) 1.4
Dos Oruguitas - Lin Manuel Miranda (Encanto) 3.25
Be Alive - Beyonce & DIXSON (King Richard) 8.5
Down To Joy - Van Morrison (Belfast) 17
Somehow You Do - Diane Warren (Four Good Days) 17

Best Costume Design
Cruella 1.19
Dune 4.35
West Side Story 14.5
Cyrano 19
Nightmare Alley 29

Best Makeup & Hairstyling
The Eyes of Tammy Faye 1.36
Coming 2 America 5.5
Dune 5.5
Cruella 9
House Of Gucci 17

Best documentary short
The Queen of Basketball 1.8
Three Songs For Benazir 3
Audible 4
Lead Me Home 15
When We Were Bullies 15

Best Live Action Short
The Long Goodbye 1.36
Ala Kachuu - Take and Run 5.5
The Dress 5.5
Please Hold 11
On My Mind 15

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Here's the template for those that want to share predictions, let's see who can guess the most! I still have to watch couple of important movies from the list before I make mine.

I was thinking you are going to skip this year Oscar rewards so I just wanted to ask you today about that, and I even bookmarked Oscars Guide (https://www.imdb.com/oscars/nominations/) page on IMDB website as a reminder :)
From all the movies I only sort of watched Dune and I don't think this movie will win Oscar reward, but lots of people like it so it will probably win some reward if not main one.
The Power of the Dog looks like interesting western movie and it has lowest betting odds so I might check it out, as well as Nightmare Alley directed by Guillermo del Toro.
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I think so too that Dune and King Richard may take an award even if it's not that of a huge one here and a side bet for the best animated feature and original score, I think I'm rooting for Encanto in this category, just my speculation.

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I was just waiting for the academy to announce nominations, didn't want to make a thread before that. ;)


Since Dune is a science fiction movie, and those never won a best picture Oscar, chances are not the best. I like Dune and for me it was one of the best movies I saw last year but I wouldn't put my money on it. At least not a lot. It will win couple of Oscars for sure though, mainly in visual and sound categories. Just look at this Sardaukar scene (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdtaJCkCqcE), simply brilliant.



Those who are expecting standard western movie will be disappointed. Setting looks like in a classic western movie, but this story could have been set just about anywhere. First and foremost its a slow pace drama, and something like that is not everyone's cup of tea.



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it's gotta win Original Score... it's about time Hans Zimmer wins another oscar, . Nicholas Britell, the guy who made the well-received music for Moonlight a few years ago, is also nominated, and while i haven't watched Don't Look Up, im sure he made a really good work there but, surely, surely this is the year of Hans Zimmer, right? DUNE music kicks ass

btw, ma boy Hans has tougher competition in the BAFTA this year... Nicholas Britell was nominated for a BAFTA, and also Alexandre Desplat (strangely he wasn't nominated for an Oscar). For those who don't know, Desplat is the same guy won the Oscars and BAFTA for The Shape of Water original score (winning over Zimmer's Dunkirk and Blade Runner 2049) and he also won Oscars and BAFTA for The Grand Budapest Hotel (over Zimmer's Interstellar)... i can imagine Hans Zimmer big sigh of relief after not seeing Desplant in the oscars nomination list lol

Will Smith nominated for the best actor category is a great height for Him the movie King Richard portrays the life of Richard Williams and it sold out at the box office. It's a good prediction to say that Will Smith will get the Award. His role was superb alongside Tony Goldwyn. I knew Will Smith through my brother and since then I've been following some his movies, he's such a funny guy. ;D

Yeah, Will Smith is an outstanding actor, I personally love him as well as he's movies, I remember back in the days, the movie that put him in the limelight for me is Men in Black, me and my sister used to love that movie so much when we were still kids.
One of he's latest work which I watched recently is Bel-Air, the movie was actually produced by him, am glad he's been nominated in the best actor category, I won't be surprised at all if he eventually wins it, it's a deserved award.

Look I can get West Side Story being the last, even though the play was wonderful and amazing, and movie could have been great if done properly, but it wasn't great at all. Belfast is basically the proof that Oscars care about the movie as much as the message it is sending out as well. It has become too political and I am saying this as someone who is progressive as well.

I mean we get it, there have been wrong things in history, are we going to just shoot one each year and give that an Oscar? Is that how it is going to be? Movies that are original will not get credit? Don't Look Up has stirred the pot a lot this year and that is political as well, and the odds are very weird. Like what the hell is 4.00 odds for a movie? That's as sure as it gets, that's terrible, it is not even close to make you want to guess.

Dune, Cruella, Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, Raya and the Last Dragon.

Those are the only nominated titles that I've seen. All were ok except for Dune which I can't recommend.

Have to guess the oscars in 2022 will dial down the woke content, following the trend the NFL adopted with a less severe version of players taking a knee in protest. The NFL started out strong with woke content. Then later scaled it back to messages like "end racism" on the backs of helmets.

Oscar ratings in 2021 were the lowest in its history. They will likely make adjustments to address that the way the NFL has.

@Hydrogen. On Dune if you are not a fan of the books, it will be hard to be a fan of the movie. Dune is not similar to Starwars where it was created like a tv soap opera with lasers, spaceships and as a marketing tool for commerical merchandising. Dune was a very good movie and it deserves the nomination for best picture, I reckon.

The odds for the other categories do not have their odds listed in sportsbooks, however, these are my picks. I have not watched some of the nominated movies. I might change my choices.

Best visual effects: Spider-Man: No Way Home
Best production design: West Side Story
Best international feature:
Best cinematography: Dune
Best original song: Down to Joy (Belfast)
Best documentary short:
Best documentary feature:
Best animated feature: Encanto
Best makeup & hairstyling: House of Gucci
Best film editing: tick, tick… BOOM!
Best supporting actor: Jesse Plemons (The Power of the Dog)
Best supporting actress: Judi Dench
Best live action short:
Best animated short:
Best original screenplay: Belfast (Kenneth Branagh)
Best adapted screenplay: Coda (Sian Heder)
Best original score: Dune
Best sound: Dune
Best costume design: West Side Story

Yep, I think its time for Hans to finally win another Oscar, after 27 years and Lion King. Regarding Dune, I expect 3-5 Oscars, but not the most important one I'm afraid. I would like to be proved wrong though, but wouldn't mind The Power of the Dog winning a Best Picture Oscar either, as I liked that one too.


2020 was generally a bad year when it comes to movie quality so that probably helped Ocscars having such a shitty rating, on top of all that woke agenda that they have.



Dunno, I know plenty of people that never read Dune books yet they liked the movie a lot. Its good that Denis Villeneuve insisted in two movies as one is simply not enough to cover the first book, but I still think that best approach would have been to make high-production series/mini-series out of it to properly cover everything.

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By the way, I saw Nightmare Alley last night and it was a big disappointment, Bradly Cooper was a total miscast for that role. I have no idea how that movie ended up with Best Picture nomination.

I'm a fan of David Lynch's Dune (1984) and the books.

The 2022 rendition of Dune doesn't do the story justice. Atreides disembark onto Arrakis decked out in full body armor. When the Harkonnens attack, the Atreides engage them without the body armor they wore earlier, or much in the way of weapons. This is never explained and doesn't make much sense.

The fictional character of Paul Atreides is supposed to have trained as a soldier and leader from a young age, and be very skilled in these areas. The actor selected to portray Paul Atreides in the 2022 Dune film looks like he was born and bred to be the ultimate accountant. Highly skilled at writing memos and paperwork. Otherwise, completely useless in terms of what the character is supposed to be.

The scene where palm trees are watered is anti science. Trees and plants would be placed inside an enclosure like a greenhouse where water and humidity could be trapped and retained. They would never be planted out in the open bleeding moisture. There are small details like this scattered around the film which are anti science or written by authors who fail to know the most basic aspects of common sense. The ornithopter and carry all designs also may have been flawed, although I can't remember exactly what issues I had with those.

I couldn't recommend 2022 Dune as it simply isn't faithful to the spirit of what the Dune genre stands for.

It is cool to finally see superhero type of movies getting some acclamation in the disguise of production design and all that but we have to realize that this s basically not a "best movie" category anymore, it is just "which one had a better message with better acting" and that's it.

The day we didn't see End Game on Oscars best movie list, was the day I stopped caring about it as well. Can you imagine? I mean a whole series of movies that started in 2008 with Iron Man and lets say the infinity saga ended with End game (it had far from home) that would be around 25 billion dollars total box office.

I do not care if you like them or not, but if you do not nominate the movie that is the biggest grossing movie ever in existence (avatar reruns made it go back to one) then I am sorry but you are actually not fair and Oscars are a fake sham organization for me.

David Lynch’s Dune was very scattered. He tried to force everything in one movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac_7VInKnow

My only annoyance on Denis Villeneuve’s version is the incompleteness in introduction of the Dune universe, the politics, the guilds and the history. We might see this in the next movies, however.

They did not have body armor because they were not ready. Dr. Yueh turned off the shields and there was a surprise attack from the Harkonnens. It was detailed in the book. Gurney Halleck was also separated and he was assumed dead.

Paul is trained, however, he was not a soldier. In the book, it was also revealed to him that he was meant to be a mentat. Paul was also only 15 years old when they went to live in planet Arrakis.

The date palms were also described similarly in the book but by Dr. Yueh through talking to Jessica. Blame Frank Herbert if this is anti science. The movie is only following what is written in the book.

I also think that Will Smith deserves it, he is a person who has always had an impeccable career, and if I have seen all the sagas of Men in Black, not to mention the Prince of Bell Air, I think that this time Will Smith can do history, besides that the film seemed good to me, we hope that in the Academy they take that path and some pertinent considerations so that he can win, as I said before, he deserves it.

I don’t know about that, the ratings of the Oscars if I am not mistaken have been tanking for years, if they did not cared about it back then why would they care now? It has gotten so bad that whenever I hear that a movie is acclaimed by the critics instead of this being a sign of a good movie it is a sign of which movie I should avoid, which is why despite increasing the number of movies I have been watching lately I have not watched a single one of those that are nominated to win the best picture award.

I do not really understand why there are so many laudatory and good reviews about the film Belfast?  I think that this is a rather mediocre film, mixed with some kind of childhood memories of the screenwriter and some kind of local nostalgia for the old days.  Completely boring and not very interesting film. 
I will be surprised if the academicians will award him in any nominations. 
I didn't like the movie.

Its simply impossible to cover everything in two 2 and a half hours movies. As I said before, proper approach would be high-budget mini series but considering everything, I think that Villeneueve did a good job, certaiiny better than Lynch (I like his version too by the way).


Exactly this. I don't understand complaints about Chalamet coming from people that (probably) think MacLachlan was a better choice. People often keep forgetting that Paul is only 15 years old and to me Chalamet looks closer to that age, even though he is only 1 year younger than Kyle was when he made Dune. On top of that, Chalamet is generally much better actor now than MacLachlan ever was.



Well, if you avoid movies just because they are nominated in Best Picture award, you are doing the same mistake as those who think that nomination=good movie. It's true that Oscars had questionable winners/nominations over the years but that doesn't mean that there are no good movies among nominated ones.

So tell me did you watch all the movies nominated for this year Oscar rewards, and what do you think is the best movie in your opinion?
Just don't tell me it's Dune pleeease  :P
I don't know exact date for picking Oscar winners, but maybe I can watch one or two movies you are recommending from this list (excluding Dune).
Maybe they should make some nice movie about Bitcoin and Satoshi next time, I would watch that...  and I hear Netflix recently ordered new series about Bitfinex hack and money laundering scheme:
https://about.netflix.com/en/news/netflix-orders-doc-series-about-alleged-cryptocurrency-laundering-scheme

Nah, haven't seen all movies yet. I am kinda behind the schedule at the moment, still have to watch few. Tomorrow's plan is to watch either Coda or Belfast.


Nah it's not Dune, (even though I quite enjoyed that one, especially first part of the movie) so far it's The Power of the Dog but I am not so sure that you will like that one, unless you are a fan of slow burn movies. Worst one so far has been Nightmare Alley, big disappointment as I generally like Guillermo del Toro movies.


Haven't really figure out what kind of movies you like so its kinda hard to give any recommendation.


Tbh, I don't think us who are into crypto for a longer time would be satisfied if they make something like this. Thing is, they would probably dumb it down in order to attract average viewers, and make stuff up to be more exciting, disregarding the facts as that's what they always do. I mean, we will certainly get movies that will cover that topic, but I doubt that we gonna get anything good.


Thanks, I'll keep an eye on that one.

I don't have any specific movie genre I like most and it all depends on my mood, but I always enjoyed watching good science fiction movies, mysteries, history and thrillers... also anything based on real events.
What I don't like is most modern movies that are are just copy-paste or remakes of good old movies.

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I think this is made by ledger team (I am not not their fan) ... but it would be interesting to make a short road trip as it's not located in some distant location ;)
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"Problem" with the movies that are nominated for Best Picture is that they are mostly filled with drama/romance kind of movies, while genres like thrillers or sci-fi are kinda neglected, especially when it comes to award itself. For example, sci-fi movie never won a Best Picture Oscar, and arguably the best sci-fi movie ever wasn't even nominated in that category. What I wanted to say is that unless you are fan of drama/romance kind of movies, you won't find many you like among the nominees. Tough luck that you didn't like Dune, which is one of the best movies I saw last year. I just regret that I haven't seen it in the cinema, even though I have a solid system at home.


Not necessarily. If you mainly  watch mainstream Hollywood movies that might be the case, but good movies are being made all over the world and its never been easier to get whatever you want. I could only dream of having this kind of access 20-25 years ago.



Haven't seen this before, but I watched it earlier today, thanks for sharing. Its been quite a while since last time I heard about Liberland. I remember there was a lot of talk about it back in 2015 (IIRC) when it all started, but then people kinda stopped talking about it.

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Regarding Best Picture nominated movies, saw Coda tonight. It's a decent feel-good kinda of movie but not something that is worthy of an Oscar, at least not in that category.

I agree with your opinion, could it be that because of the critics we moved away from the film? I think that before seeing any movie we should see it and have our own criteria, the same thing happened to me with the Will Smith movie, I started to see comments and they were not good at all and they were taking away the desire to see it, I don't know if you The same thing happened with the Matrix movie, but everyone who saw it told me that the movie was very bad, but after I saw it, the resurrection part was not so bad, you just have to understand certain aspects that mess with quantum physics and not everyone knows about it, particularly I didn't find it bad, but I don't know what the criteria are that critics take, maybe for critics a movie is good, but for one it is not.

It's still very much active, but things are happening mostly in the background.
On the surface police forces are most active  :D

Maybe you remember the times when we had to go to video club to rent a vhs cassette and watch new movies, many time pirated bad copies, that reminds me on new Series called Pam & Tommy.
It's based on true story of Pamela Anderson and Tommy Lee's relationship, their sex tape, Baywatch, first days of internet, etc... Actress Lily James looks and acts so much like Pamela it's crazy (don't watch this with your kids).
Back to the Oscar Rewards, do you know exact day for picking the winners?

The ceremony is scheduled to be held on March 27, 2022.

In regards to the nominees, I believe The Power of the Dog is the clear favorite and is probably going to win Best Picture. However, I personally would prefer the award to go to Dune.

Dune is a epic movie that is entertaining to watch, especially considering the technical achievements put into the film. The cinematography is phenomenal, including the very well-done costumes and set designs. The actors do an amazing job at performing their parts as well, particularly Timothee Chalamet as the story's protagonist, Paul Atreides.

Oh yeah, still remember when guy working at the video cub rented me cam version of Independence Day, even before it was in the movies in Croatia but image quality was so bad that you couldn't tell what's really going on lol. Later when I went to cinema to watch it, it was like I was watching the movie for the first time


For me, The Power of the Dog if better movie but I wouldn't mind if Dune wins it as well as I really njoyed it, much more than I thought I will as I was a fan of David Lynch version as well and I thought that Villeneuve will somehow mess it up. Luckily he didn't and who knows, maybe it's time to get first sci-fi movie winning a Best Picture Oscar.


Yep, it will easily win Oscars in several tehnical categories. Cast was pretty good too, even Jason Momoa did his part ok, even though I personally don't like him at all. regarding Chalamet, he is an excellent actor, one of the best of his generation.

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I saw yesterday another Best Picture nominee, Licorice Pizza (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11271038/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0). It was big disappointment and for me probably the worst of all the nominated in this category. The only thing I will remember from that movie is that it was the first role for Cooper Hoffman, son of the late Phillip Seymour Hoffman. Let's hope he comes close to his father's acting skill.

 
 After seeing the numbers and how vastly different the odds was between the movies, I decided to watch them all. First of all Belfast is a great movie but it is certainly political and sometimes I do agree with people who say that it is no longer about the best movie and all about the political stance at this point. Secondly do we really need to have that black and white thing anymore? Does it really make it more "artistic"? I do not know man, that doesn't really sound like artistic deal, it was like that back in the day and no longer looks like the deal anymore, why would people use it. And at the end of the day I disagree with the odds and believe that it should have been a lot more closer for sure.

I don't like move Dune, but it was good for making me fall a sleep better one night :)
International movies look interesting, maybe Italian movie The Hand of God is worth watching when it's released with subititles.

I don't remember all the movies I watched like that but I am sure it was much more than one... later CD's replaced VHS cassettes but pirated bad quality movies still existed.
Than I purchased video camera and made my own recordings that I later converted to dvd's, so it was interesting times for sure.
Now nobody is using CD's so I am wondering whats the next invention for movies.  :)
btw did you watch Pam & Tommy series or trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDXH_X-YbpM) yet?

Yeah! In the 1990s, anti-piracy laws hit video stores hard, so many video stores were selling large quantities of pirated VHS tapes for very cheap. As a kid, the first pirated movie I got on VHS was Terminator 2: Judgment Day. I hadn't seen it in the cinema before, so I wanted to see what everyone was raving about. :D

Interestingly, the movie won four Oscars in technical categories in 1992, and I believe it represented the pinnacle of visual effects at the time. To this day, I still get nostalgic whenever I hear that drum roll from movie's iconic score. Ta-tan ta-tan!

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Yes, I can totally understand that some people might find the movie too long. But remember, this was just the first part. Imagine watching the whole thing in one sitting!  ;)

Terminator 2 was epic movie for that time, it's still one of my all time favorites with Matrix, and I can still watch it for xxx times, excluding all the sequels.
For anyone that is interested to know what little notebook computer John Connor used to ''hack'' atm machine in that movie, it was Atari Portfolio with DIP DOS operating system.
I recently found this device locally in good condition, 128 KB of RAM and 256 KB of ROM, and still working for around 100 euros.
There is even a PIN ID Program you can add to this device that looks the same like in T2 movie:

https://i.imgur.com/uYA28ya.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBr_ceLAseg

Blasphemy!  ;D


I saw it, its a decent one and available on Netflix so no downloading, which is always a plus. Honestly, I wouldn't put my money on it winning an oscar.


Saw the trailer but I haven't seen the series yet. It's on my watchlist though so eventually I will watch it. Series that are available on streaming sites are kinda priority to me, I got lazy downloading series.


Unpopular opinion: When I was younger, I preferred T2 over T1 as it is more of a "blockbuster" type of movie with better effects, bigger budget etc but as I was growing up, I kinda started preferring T1 as it is much darker and imho superior movie. After all, in T2 is machine v machine, while in T1 its man vs machine which is even more tense.

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Too long? For me it was too short. I know that people complained about first part of the movie being slow paced but for me that was the better of the movie. I am actually considering rewatching it for the 2nd time as it is finally released on blu-ray.

I didn't download that, just watched it with online streaming.

Blasphemy!  :o
I am not saying Terminator 1 is a bad movie, and it had much lower budget, but T2 is much more than just a story, it's the soundtrack, great music, very good actors, special effects, etc, and you can't deny it won Oscar reward.
All other grandpa terminator sequel movies are boring junk, and this is the real ending of T2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEaS8X1_gcU

PS
I like watching deleted scenes and there are a lot of them for Terminator movies.

How did you manage to watch all the movies in the first page? I am curious because there are lots of them. Political movies can be good to some viewer but I think this kind of movies are often boycotted because some are offended as its related to political. About the black and white thing your saying, is that a movie?

I recently made a research about them on why old movies often gets a higher rating and that is because the acting are natural and more realistic. What they are doing is not easy because there are no edits and special effects back in time. Yes, it can be considered as an art or a masterpiece. Some people have different taste than ours. We also need to consider it.

Hehehe the ATM machines in your area should presently be more secured from you. You can also buy the small dirt bike and get a matching best friend and hairstyle to complete the fantasy hehe.


Do you also feel the same way with Ridley Scott’s Alien and James Cameron’s sequel Aliens? I reckon the feelings might be similar if you were younger hehehe. Also, agree! James Cameron movies had more action and they were also advancing the technology and methods in special effects. Titanic is proof of this hehehehehe.

I don't mind black and white photography at all in Belfast case, on the contrary, I even like it. It's a decent movie by the way, but I don't think that it will the Oscar.



Yeah I understand. By the ay, when is the last time you watched T1? If its been many years I suggest to watch it again.


As a matter of fact yes, perfect comparison :D. Back in the early 90s when I saw Alien and Aliens for the first time, I kinda liked the sequel more as it was more action packed but now I have no doubts which movie is better. Alien of course.

I'm not a fan of learning movies that won an Oscar award so I have no idea Scifi movies can win awards. Similar movies I've watched was Prometheus and its sequel Alien Covenant which I guess can be compared as well.

Among the nominated, The power of Dog is the only Ive seen. Kind of a drama but was intrigue how old the role of Kirsten Dunst.
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Yeah why not, there's no genre restriction when it comes to Best Picture, it's just that sci-fi movie never won an Oscar in that category yet, not even arguably the best scifi movie of all time, 2001: A Space Oddysey ( as a matter of fact didn't even get nominated in that category )



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Odds are good by the looks of it, its just there are too many options. You got to be a good movie critic to learn who to put your money on. Oscar date is far yet so there maybe time to watch those movies or perhaps just go with whats been talked on celebrity forums and find out of their hints.  

Facebook will be a good source of info as there are good discussions of whos going to win which awards. From what I observe, the best director award also wins the best pictures, best actor and some. You agree?

Indeed, these options make it so challenging to choose a bet. Everyone wants to grow the money being put on, but in order to do so, you have to pick the movie that is most likely to be the winner. We cannot be all movie critic but we can do many efforts to acquire information to help coming up with a bet. I agree with @bittraffic, use the remaining time to join discussions, see the movies yourselves and even follow social polls to gather more info.

I don't remember exact part and sequels of Alien/Aliens, but I do remember that I had nightmares as a kid watching horror movies like Jaws, Freddy Krueger Elm Street, etc :/

I watched it many times and recently I watched some remastered and improved segments, especially part with eye surgery, robot chasing in the end, and endoskeleton final battle.

Back to the Oscar rewards, did you know that you can vote online for your favorite movie (if you live in United States) on their website or on their Twitter channel with tags #OscarsFanFavorite and #Sweepstakes?
You can vote up to 20 times per day and this will be Twitter Oscar category, you can be one of the three people to win a trip to Los Angeles and participate in next Oscars reward with all expenses paid.

Yeah, I think it helps with betting if you watch the nominated movies, but you just have to differentiate what you personally think is the best movie, and which one you would like to win, and sometimes those two are the same thing.

What's also important is to avoid betting on certain Oscar  category if odds are too low. For example, in the last year's Oscar thread I said that 1.08 on Chadwick Boseman winning best actor award is a bad bet. And remember what happened? He lost and Anthony Hopkins won the award, and I must say it was a well deserved win as he was my favorite as well.



More often than not (last 2 years) director of movie that wins best Picture Award also wins the one for directing, but that's not the rule. For example, few years ago Green Book won Best Picture award while Peter Farrelly didn't win an Oscar for directing (that went to Cuaron for Roma which was for me the best movie that year).

Agreed. Watching movies will certainly help you choose your bets for the minor categories. I am not certain if the best adapted and original screenplay categories is a minor or a major category, however, after I watched The Licorice Pizza I knew it would be my bet for best screenplay. The odds confirmed it when the sportsbooks began listing it.

On Chadwick Boseman, we should also know in what political storyline the academy voters are in the mood for hehehe. The academy members might have wanted to forget the memory of black lives matter and voted for the actor with priest role hehehehe.

You liked Licorice Pizza so much? For me it's one of the weakest movies in the "Best Picture" category and a big disappointment, probably because I usually like Paul Thomas Anderson movies but this one simply didn't sit well with me. My personal favorite among "best original screenplay" (I think its an important category) movies is probably Don't Look Up, even though I think it won't win the award. Overall this year's best original screenplay category is kinda weak.


Hah yeah, he was favorite purely because of his death and all the "Black Lives Matter" stuff, but it was perfectly clear to everyone that Anthony Hopkins performance was superior. Then again, being the best actor of the year doesn't mean that you will get the Oscar and same thing goes for every other category.

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Last night I watched another "Best Picture" nominee, Spielberg's West Side Story. Another big disappointment, no chemistry between main characters at all.  I have no idea how that ended up being nominated in that category, maybe because Steven Spielberg reputation. It's one of those movies that shouldn't have been made at all, since the original West Side Story (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055614/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_4) from 1961 still works. After all, that movie won 10 Oscars back in the day.

There are many options, in fact I am not a big fan of cinema, and I have been very little active in terms of movies, to be honest with me the movie that should win an Oscar for the best would be the new Marvel of Spiderman, it is a film that encompasses a lot, has good special effects, and I really see a lot of emotion in it, and I think that is what the directors should capture, the emotions, and it did not exceed the box office record of the previous Avengers, for being in a pandima, however, I would have far surpassed it.

I did not like Licorice Pizza so much, however, it quickly made me think of the best original screenplay category when I was watching it. I searched the odds and it confirmed the speculation.

Agreed on the new West Side Story. I thought it would create an impressive production design and costumes but it appears Dune created better hehe.

In any case, if someone asked me to bet from my heart, I want best picture to be Coda, Kenneth Branagh for best director, Ciarán Hinds for best supporting actor, Judi Dench for best supporting actress, Dune for best cinematography, Dune for best original score, Dune for best sound, Spiderman no way home for best visual effects, Coda or Drive my car for best adapted screenplay and Licorice Pizza for best original screenplay. I do not care for the other categories.

I also recommend everyone to watch Drive my car. It might be the underdog of 2022 hehehe.

I watched " the power of the dog" I couldn't digest the thought that it is in Oscar nomination. I could hardly watch half the movies and turned off the TV, thinking what made jury bring this movie to the Oscar nomination. I think they have all the things planned and they see their interest and decide what they want people to watch.

That is exactly who Oscars are given. Sure if you are at the top then there is a chance you could still win, like great movies do get nominations at the very least. By box office Avatar and Titanic are 1 and 3 so they got like 15 Oscars or so between them if I am not wrong, something like that.

Doesn't mean all the top ones do neither, Endgame was the top grossing and got zero. But if you check every single winner of Oscars best movie award, you will realize that most of the time they are boring movies. They pick boring movies, last year it was nomadland, like do you really think that it was the BEST movie of last year? Really? Nobody thinks that at all, hence Oscars are 100% DEFINITELY not the indicator of any movies quality.

From the rumors appearing on the Internet, "CODA" has the best chance of winning an Oscar this year, the next movie in line is "The Power of the Dog" and "Belfast", and only in fourth position "Duna". Maybe my film taste is strange, but in my opinion the Oscar should be awarded to "Duna" this year. I have no doubts that it was this movie that made the biggest impression on me.

You can see Dune on most of the category so they have a bigger chance to win an Oscar award, while CODA only nominated in two category, so they have a low chance of winning. I watched some of the movies nominated on this year Oscar and I can say that they are good but with Dune, I see this movie a long and interesting one, well based on my perception.

Hah really? I honestly didn't have that though about any of the movies I saw so far.


I haven't seen that one yet as I have issues finding 3 hours of spare time to watch it one go, even though by the looks of it looks like something I might like.


Slow burn drama movies like that are certainly not everyone's cup of tea so I can understand someone not liking it. You probably didn't like last year winners as well, Nomadland?



Just because some movie earns a lot of money doesn't mean its quality but only that is popular and Oscars isn't popularity contest. Of course, Academy has its agenda that they push, but its still better than giving Oscars based on popularity/box office results as that it would be much worse.


Boring to you maybe, Nomadland was pretty good movie. You know what's boring for me? Mindless superhero movies like Avengers, Spidermans and all similar crap. I honestly  can' stand that shit.

i can say Dune has been done good as i watched this movie also. the producers of this movie are not stingy to create a good film. so i won't be surprised if they will ever get an oscars' award. because for me, getting an oscars is just a bonus for any of this film. what they are most after is if they can generate good money out of this film and make a difference in the film industry, even outside this oscars.
because we can't deny the fact, that politicking may also be present in this kind of award.

Dune could win the production oscars for professionalism but I think Belfast will have the better chance of best film, direction which are considered the bigger categories overall.   Im not sure we have one film which sweeps the board as sometimes happens, I see more fragmentation this time around.

Dune's budget has been 165 million dollars which sound a lot at first, but in reality it's not even among top 100 most expensive movies of all time so kudos to Denis Villeneuve for making a movie that looks way more expensive than it was. So far Dune grossed approximately 400 million dollars which is a decent number. If there as no covid, I am sure that number would be at least 50% higher, but even this is enough to get a sequel which is already in production and should be released next year.


There is no  "production oscars for professionalism". When it comes to producers, they get Best Picture Oscar.

To refine what I meant, I was trying to say I think Dune is more of a technical win candidate then an overall winner on the acting or story side of the Oscars.  Sometimes they win both but this time I think we could see more of a split
These categories are perhaps not so well known in the audience as best Actor or others but obviously they count and mean the world to those in the industry especially.


We have come a long way in budgets, I remember Titanic was gigantically expensive at 200m.    That was a while ago so money isnt what it once was, I guess 165 is medium now.   I always look at the ratio of the rough return they got, this doesn't exclude extra such as franchise rights for models/toys possibly etc. which can be massive.

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Yes, however, it was not because I thought The Licorice Pizza was a very good movie. It was because it gave an impression that the voters of the academy would like the screenplay of the movie. The movie was more an art film than a movie to please an audience, I reckon. Also, you will certainly like Drive my car but there was a few minutes in the movie where it might have lost the plot and found itself again in the ending.

Yeah I don't expect Dune to win may Oscars (of any) outside tehnical ones. Unfortunately that's how it goes when it comes to sci-fi movies.


Titanic was the most expensive movie for something like 10 years and it really stood out back in those days. It paid off though as it was the highest grossing movie until Avatar came.


Of course, there is a lot of money to be made from dvds, blurays, streaming rights, toys etc. One thing to keep in mind is that when we see that some movie grossed let's say $500 million, that doesn't mean that all that money goes to them as you have to deduct percentage that cinemas take and others in that chain so realistically what's left is maybe 50% of the box office, at best.

There are many cost which we are not aware of.
Also I watched Dune as well - I have never watched a movies that made me want to read the novel as well. Dune was no doubt one of  the most exhilarating and fresh movies I've ever watched. It felt like an experience that a movie should give. Even without reading the books was I able to quickly catch on to what was happening throughout the film. PHENOMENAL MOVIE! Definitely recommend

I was  going through a very  difficult time in my life ... but after watching  the  trailer I instantly fell in love with everything about Dune's universe. So I decided to read the book and for the first time in my life I decided to go to the theater alone to watch this movie (It may seem simple, but it's something very difficult for me bcs I feel alone with no one by my side.) I'm sure it will be one of the few moments where I could be happy with myself and be able to feel a little bit of joy alone.

Some movies it doesnt matter where you sit or with whom, you are within the movie because its that good.   I should check it again if people are that impressed, it is a great story no doubt but its not new to me, the whole epic was famous a few times and they even have a very famous computer game based on it that founded a whole genre.    Being a remake though a good one might also count against vs a new movie/story/script etc.

After watching Dune - I have so many feelings, but the thing that stands front and center is This is everything we want in movies. it's thrilling, It's passionate, it's emotional, it's fantastical, it's intense, it's fast-paced, and heart-stopping and creative and just DOWN RIGHT ADDICTING. I watched this movie twice already in two consecutive days. I don't care how long it is, BUT I WANT MORE OF IT!  It held me captive, stole my heart, and I have the BIGGEST DUNE hangover ever. The worldbuilding was so freaking good, it was freaking magical!

Marvel did change the rankings a bit with their highly unusual costs. I mean surely they did make movies that we all went and see (not you exactly, but in general when you look at the box office returns) and they made that money 10x more than normal. It is a wonderful business when you know that you are going to spend a lot of money, do something artistic that you wanted to do since you were a little kid, and then end up 10x your money along the way.

We are going crazy to make 10x in crypto to begin with, so doing that with a movie and at that scale must be amazing. However, the reality is that 165 is still not "small", it may not be at the top, but removing all the big name series like marvel or lotr would make dune one of the biggest ones still.

Marvel has been consistent in providing promising movies and they're really spending a lot to make great and artistic content. I'm sure that it could have already reached a bigger target this year which isn't questionable. Marvel will always remain phenomenal since we've all grown up with their movies. I believe that they could still get a better spot.

I didn't know there were so many different categories with the Oscars. But in the film industry naturally also involves gigantic amounts. It would also be nice if a certain sport could be associated with winning an Oscar, completely separate from the Ballon Dor for example. But not many sporters are appearing in movies.

Oscar was considered as the top most award in the flim Industry. A.R.Rahman had got two Oscar at the same time for the music.It was great prestigious one for him.So the same was won by many country film Industry people. Most of the times, we can predicted the Winners from the Nomination.Nomination was the first step to get into the award section.You need huge support to win the ward.

Likewise, there are so much to look at when it comes to Oscar. And I read it on internet that male winners take home $3.9 million whereas the female winner take $500,000 bonus home. But its surprising to find that statue of worth $1 - lol - But the nominee would enjoy since There are so much in goodie bags and wow the glamour attached to the Oscar. What a night it will be!

Really - I never know that. Keep telling more which excited my mind.
Oscar tag is a big tag when attached to an person or film. But there are a few. nomination which I am not sure, why and how they are in nomination. Like I find The power of the dog so boring to be nominated to the oscar. But of course judges have their own choice we have our own choice.

Forgot to mention that Golden Globe awards for 2022 are out, which can somehwat helps to deermine who could win an Oscar. Here are the winners in the few most popular categories:
Best Picture Drama : Power of the Dog (just confirms that it's Oscar favorite)
Best Picture – Musical/Comedy: West Side Story (for me one of the worst Best Picture nominees)
Best Actress - Motion Picture Drama: Nicole Kidman
Best Actor - Motion Picture Drama: Will Smith

You can check the full list here https://variety.com/2022/film/news/2022-golden-globes-winners-list-1235149340/

Found it boring too. People are drawn to how the story ends when they can relate it to thier lives because in-laws are hostile to them or to thier mothers. It commonly happens actually, I was just surprised the boy has it in him.  Do you think Jesse Plemons will win a supporting actor too?

Most of the movies that are nominated in categories are featuring the lives of the old like 1960-70s. The oldest so far that I have seen are the Power of the Dog, The Belfast, and West Side Story.

boring to some but good for others. this is why it is too difficult to bet on this kind of event as it is very subjective in my opinion. the taste of judges form bafta may be totally different with oscars. so like for example, will smith is the best actor in bafta, we can't expect that he will also win in oscars. but the probability is there. what if oscars' judges will lean more on cumberbatch? we never know. i guess, not too many bettors are putting their money on this event.
but if you have bet, of course, you will be thrilled to watch the oscars.

I reckon if a movie wins best picture, best director, best actor or other major award in the Golden Globe, it increases the chance that those movies or actors and actresses might not win in the Oscar awards. I am not quite certain why this occurs, however, we have witnessed this many times. I speculate Coda or Belfast might presently have a chance hehehe.

That's correct, but people have great reviews for Dune. They even read the book after watching the film. Sometime a movie stays with person for a very long time. And Dune is one of its kind. Jesse Plemons can win, but to be honest, I found it so boring and depressing that I left it in the middle. But I will be very shocked if the movie wins the oscar.

I recently watched it too. Quite a futuristic movie actually, the funny tech they have like the dragonfly helicopter yet the soldiers are using swords. Doesn't seem to make sense to me and it's rare to see movies today that are more than 2 hours and it seems to have a sequel one day. It ended like they were just journeying to a new kingdom walking to the desert. Maybe I didn't follow much of the story, it's the boy that supposes to be the new leader as prophesized so that's just it. But it almost shows how politics work still even today. The movie is nominated in many categories so there is a chance. I'm doubting but probably like the Best film editing, Best cinematography, or Best visual effects.

Is any of us watching some polls that might help us bet for the win?

The move Dune is so masterfully shot, you could watch the movie on mute and still be entertained. Hand down the best thing going for Dune is the stunning visuals from beginning to the end. The Director Denis Villeneuce collected a beautiful collection of scenes that are truly a sight to see.

It's been a couple of day since I watched the magnificent movie and in my view, Dune is one of the reasons why we rush to the theaters. It is our reward for patiently waiting with masks on. The sheer scope of the film is an absolutely massive and unlike anything - it is a sheer bliss to watch on a big screen. Amazing Amazing Movie!

Wasnt amazed by the story, I think its same old movie with prophesy to come true. Nothing special. Not very sure why the movie is nominated several times.  I have not watched all the movies yet but the movie so far that impressed me was the BELFAST, which every Ukrainian today may likely related too because its close to migrating and crossing borders due to war. But the story concentrates more on how the kid sees what is happening.

Its  civil war movie in Ireland of course by its title. And what a family will do during war and if they can go on with their lives after their contingency plans.

I think the soundtrack is amazing, I guess this is what this movie will win. Best sound, original song and best Picture probably.

It's very interesting, I didn't know that the Oscar statue was worth just that much, I thought that the Oscar statue was one of the most expensive things in the world, but in reality I find the award given to the men more impressive , I mean $3.9M is a great amount, I wonder if the nominees also receive some economic benefit from the Academy? I have a cousin who was at the Oscars, he was a guest of Antonio Banderas, and he told me that the experience there was from another world, seeing so many high-level actors and actresses was something he never imagined.

 ??? But where did AR Rehman come in discussion? He is not in nomination and these Oscar has nothing to do with AR. Reham. He has a great voice but I don't think there is anything in this year Oscar relating to AR Rehman. Thanks for updating us how big the Oscar are and that Indain Singer won it twice. Great to know that.

.. This is true, seeing big names in reality is dream come true opportunity. I have seen a decline in autograph trend these days. In 90's stars use to stop for a while to sign autographs for their fan. I hardly see this trend now. Maybe people have so much insight into the life of the stars that they get what they want so easily.

Has anyone got a chance to watch don't look up. Another disappointment. I am amazed to watch that this is in best picture nomination. Very strange story and annoying story. An utter disappointment. But Leonardo DiCaprio did justice with his role. this is McKay’s worst film yet.

Keeping the current situation in consideration Belfast has chance to win the best movie. It's strong in direction and acting is superb. There are some amazing review I have gone through. May The best one wins. But for Actor I am supporting Will Smith - he has came a long way. I will be very happy if he wins.

And so is Don't look up. When I started watching the movie I thought it will be funny but at the end I felt very sad. Although the ending is very fictional but this movie made things so scary. I don't know if anyone has noticed that is literally a parallel to how world looks at the climate change. That is the same we did with Covid.

That's makes 3 of us in this thread that's disappointed about the film, it's a star-studded movie with stars that you know can perform well to do comedy and drama but it didn't go well. It has a rating of 81% in IMDB though.

Parallel like we didn't listen as well about how true the Climate Change or Covid is?
We have just seen the lies told to us over and over that we don't believe anything anymore that comes from the mainstream media. Yes probably literally a parallel. Not sure what this film will win in Oscar actually.

What I've watched recently is CODA 2021 film which is also nominated. The only teenager who can talk and heard but comes from a family of the deaf. She gained confidence thru the Choir trainer who discovers she can sing well.

It's a touching movie. It's not the usual story. And kinda gives you the feeling of whether you can leave your family behind in pursuit of your dreams. She helps her family to keep their fishing business afloat. She's the only one who can hear in the family which is hard. In the end, it's the family that actually let her go to college for she won a scholarship.  CODA is probably for Best adapted screenplay.

While this may true, the whole Dune world is extremely complex and it's very hard to put all that in 2 movies like Villeneuve is planning, but I still think that he did a very good job. While you may debate whether it deserves Best Picture and Best Adapted Screenplay nominations (I say it does), you can't deny that nominations in tehnical categories & production categories are very well deserved. Speaking strictly about visuals, I haven't seen a movie that looks so good since Revenant (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1663202/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0).


Belfast is definitely a decent movie but for me the best one that deals with all those Northern Ireland issues and "The Troubles" is Bloody Sunday (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0280491/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_2) (I re-watched it recently). It's fair to say that is a different type of movie, shot almost in a documentary style with hand-held cameras etc, but its a brilliant and very tense movie so you might wanna check it out if you haven't seen it already as It's even more relevant with all these things going on at the moment.


Yeah I think that was pretty obvious what's the movie messages. I do think movie should have been more subtle in a way it conveys the messages but its a very solid movie nevertheless. I am generally fan of Adam McKay though and his style so I expected at least a solid movie.


CODA was a pleasant surprise for me. I expected very little since I knew that it was a remake of a french movie called The Bélier Family (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3547740/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) and as you know Hollywood usually butchers originals. But every once in a while we get a good remake (remember Scorsese's The Departed (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407887/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0) that won Best Picture Oscar back in 2007?) and it might even get an Oscar, probably "The Best Supporting Actor" one.

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Since I finally watched majority of the movies nominated in most important categories, I plan to share who I think it will win an Oscar and who I would like to win an Oscar in each category and invite you to do the same. So, I plan to do it like this:

Best Picture:
Who I think will win:
Who I think it should win

etc.

Seems like I am the only one who is keeping a track of this form - not much people are interested in movies and what is going on in the cinema - I watched another movie today - Don't look up. There are so many critics who are calling this movie a rotten tomato. But this movie sheds a light on global warming and how we take things so light. It's unbelievable but than this is really happening.

Rather, few people are interested in the opinion of "academicians" - most of the visitors to this forum do not care about them, since they have their own opinion. From a betting point of view, the Oscars are bullshit, so there isn't much discussion here.
The film is really good, I was even surprised that "censorship" allowed it to come out because people can see too many direct analogies with what they see in real politics.

While I generally liked the movie I don't see anything controversial going on there that would call for censorship of any sort. Unlike some other countries, United States don't have much issues with filmmakers criticizing and ridiculing politicians. For example, remember Fahrenheit 9/11 that won the Oscar back in 2005, or Vice that was also made by McKay and that also won Best Picture nomination.

After all, Don't look Up is not going against mainstream narrative at all, and instead is just ridiculing politicians and general public. If this was truly controversial film that goes against any sort of currently popular narrative, you would never see Hollywood A-listers like Meryl Streep or Leonardo Di Caprio being part of them.

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Looks like I will skip "betting on a "Best Actor in a Leading Role" category as 1.13 on Will Smith is simply too low and not a good bet to take. If it stayed round 1.3-1.4 like it was in the beginning, I would definitely put some money on it, but this is just not worth it. Having watched the movie, I honestly don't understand how in hell is he the clear favorite as imho Benedict Cumberbatch did a much better job in The Power of the Dog. In King Richard we see a classic Will Smith, nothing extraordinary but I doubt that we will see yet another upset in this category like the last year when Hopkins won over late Chadwick Boseman.

What happened back in 2005, to put it mildly, is irrelevant for a long time. In recent years, the radicalization of society has greatly increased and Hollywood has taken one of the positions (in fact, there is no "diversity" that is proclaimed). Have you heard of such a thing as "cancel culture"? And how does it apply to some but not to others? I don't want to start a discussion of political issues here, but I hope you understand what I mean.
By the way, have you heard, for example, about this (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10625251/Trans-swimmer-Lia-Thomas-wins-500-yard-freestyle-NCAA-championships.html)?
Tell me honestly, which film has a chance to win an Oscar - a film that tells about the difficult fate of a transgender who became a champion or about the difficult fate of a girl who became (assume that the film is fiction) a champion by defeating a transgender (in fact female vs male)?   ::)

I am with you on this, and as I said I liked the movie but I just don't understand what is so controversial in the movie that would call for ban of any sort or that we should be lucky that it didn't get banned. It's a good satire, but it's definitely not touching any hard subjects. A-list cast tells you that this is a mainstream movie and not some subversive indie film that might actually upset someone.


Yeah I heard about the case and we all know which one would be the favorite, unfortunately. I hope that all this agenda pushing might cause counter-reaction, like it happened in the late 60s that brought us New Hollywood. These things happen in cycle (at least for now) as then we had the 80s that were kinda purist, which was followed by much darker and more violent 90s. We just need some directors with balls.

Agreed. I also liked Don't Look Up, however, in my own opinion it is not a movie that is deserving to be nominated for best picture. Don't Look Up being a Netflix movie appeared similar to an ordinary Saturday night TV movie.

Disagree on Will Smith, there is a chance that we might witness another upset for best actor. There has not been a black actor who has won an oscar for best actor since 2007. The odds offered are high on Benedict Cucumber. This might be a good punt hehe.

I too was surprised to see what has brought don't look up to the Oscar. I will be very surprised if it wins an award. The ending, in particular which showed that the elites were saved and they returned back to the world after decades was so so surprising. But sometime unpredicted things become reality - no one knows!

So people are so much into movies - I have learnt alot from films and cinematography. I am not sure why people are not much interested in discussing films and actor and visual effects. The forum is quite slow. But I would like to see opinion of people and what they think about movies and star and glitz and glam of oscar.

I actually thought its a very unique story with a unique kind of family. So it is not very new at all. There must be a difference between its story otherwise it would be complete plagiarism. The local film producer in my country also butchers Holly movies and its very obvious because everybody watches Hollywood movies.

I wasn't following Oscar back in 2007 but I have watched The Departed several times with some friends who invited me to thier house, I just don't tell them I have already watched it. My favorite part of the movie was when his fellow student noticed him when he arrived in the FBI office and told another person that he never saw this guy again until today, who was also the one who killed Leo inside the elevator.

My bet for Best Picture is Belfast.

I already saw @bbc.reporter's bet on the first page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5385189.msg59216518#msg59216518). We're watching who else will post something like that.

For me it it all depends on the competition each year. In some years I would agree that Don't Look Up ain't good enough to be nominated for Best Picture award, but given how kinda weak the last year was, I am not surprised that it ended getting nominated and same thing goes for last year which was also kinda weak. Covid really affected film industry and it will take some time before studios starts producing movies at the speed they were prior to 2020.


Yeah I think its a good bet, given the odds and how good he was in the role. Then again, I wouldn't put a lot of money on that bet as I doubt that underdog will win two years in the row.


You can copy a whole script word for word, as long as you credited the original creators of the movie and that's exactly what creators of CODA so all is clear there. It's not like they copied the idea and then "forgot"to mention original writers. Same thing happened with The Departed: they credited original writers as we could see the fact that it was remake didn't stop them from winning Best Picture Oscar.

Piece of trivia from movie history: Akira Kurosawa earned more money from the rights that he got for A Fistfull of Dollars (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058461/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_2) than he got for Yojimbo (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055630/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0), the movie that was the basis for Fistfull of Dollars. What happened is that Sergio Leone basically copied the idea and script from Akira Kurosawa, but he didn't pay for the rights to use it, nor he mentioned it. In the end Kurosawa sued him and he got certain percentage of the films profit which in the end was much higher than he earned from Yojimbo.

Maybe I exaggerated, but it seemed to me that this film could have direct analogies with the covid pandemic. The pandemic was real, but most of the world's governments rushed to make their power totalitarian, even often to the detriment of the fight against the pandemic. The film and the pandemic almost coincided in time, so it could be perceived as a satire not of politicians in the "general" case, but as a satire of a specific covid pandemic.

When I read Benedict Cucumber, I laughed... ;D I know you just typed Cucumber instead of Cumberbatch for the fun of it. I watched both films, and I am more on Cucumber her for Best Actor.  ;D But you know when it comes to Oscars, they have their own mood of selecting the winners. So better relax and watch. If you will put money on this, don't expect much. Just place bet for the excitement.

Has anyone seen the worst person the world? The movie is nominated in the best original screenplay.  Renate Reinsve did so well in the movie  some performances don't require any validation. There is a  massive amount of empathy shown towards   each character, for all their vices and faults. At some point, in the daily confusion and uncertainty of our lives, we've all felt like "the worst person in the world.” What a wonderful movie!

I am excited that one of my favorite songs “be alive” is in the list. This is so powerful song. I am touched my favorite part is look how we’ve been fighting to stay alive so when we win we will have pride. This is so apt keeping the current situation in consideration. We are all striving to be alive. I am sure this song is going to win. I can even bet on this song if there is any channel where one can bet on Oscar! Fingers crossed!

Those picks are only my choices during that day and they might change. I have also mentioned that Licorice Pizza might win for best original screenplay after watching it. I have not watched it when I shared those picks.


Yes, only a small bet hehehe. It is also only a bet if the academy would allow a black actor to win as best actor in this year's Oscars hehehe. I will not share more of my thoughts on that racism conspiracy. I might get cancelled hehehehehe.

This feels like a bit of a weird year for some reason as someone who's an American who watches a lot of movies, I've barley heard of the nominees this year. ( funny thing as I'm typing this message an Oscars ad just popped up on the TV lol ).  I have seen Don't Look Up and absolutely loved it as well as a couple of the other movies. It's so hard predicting who's going to win.  I'm going to try and watch a few more of these movies so I can then make an informed bet on all this.

Thats good. Creating a plot and making scripts can be hard. They'd have to get paid.
I think there are several versions of Fistfull of Dollar already like that of Magnificent 7. Kind of western still. I like western movies espeically done by Tarantino.

I've only become interested in movies this 2020 since covid, theres no much to do but watch the screen. So I was kind of surprice how some of the nominees in OSCAR were released on netflix and some of them are actually series.

Since in the last twenty years four black actors won "Best Actor in a Leading Role" Oscars I don't think that's such a big issue anymore, situation changed. What people often forget is that black American actors not only have white Americans as a competition, but also actors from several others predominantly white countries like United Kingdom, Ireland, Canada, Australia, Spain, France etc and all those actors gravitate to United States. As a matter of fact, in the last ~20 years, only 13 out of 20 Oscars in that category were won by Americans. I mean, it sucks that we even have to talk about quotas and stuff like that, simply let the best man win.


I've seen it and I agree, a very good movie. Probably the best one in International Feature category this year but haven't watched Drive My Car yet as its not easy to find three straight hours to watch it, even though it looks like my kind of movie.


Part of the reason might be that film industry is more focused on dramas and not so big budget movies due covid stuff. Same thing was last year, studios simply don't wanna risk a lot of money if they are not sure whether cinemas will be open and without that it's hard to return the investment. There is simply less buzz than in previous years.



Magnificent Seven (both the original and remake) is not a version of Fistfull of Dollars, but instead it's based on another classic by Akira Kurosawa, Seven Samurai (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047478/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0). What's interesting is that Kurosawa was a big fan of American westerns (mainly John Ford) and was influenced by them so in a way westerns made a full circle. Regarding Tarantino, I liked Hateful Eight but Django Unchained not so much.


Yeah movies from streaming services can also be Oscar nominated, despite some big names like Steven Spielberg being against it. Regarding the series being nominated for Oscar, I think that you mixed something up as Oscar is a movie-only award. Golden Globe has series categories so maybe you confused it with that.

In last two year - during cornoa - Netflix was the most thriving business like amazon. While the business where firing the employee due to corona - Netflix and amazon has hundred of job opportunites amid crisis. At least we all had time to watch movies during quarantine. I am hoping that many series and movies will be coming on COVID as well. 

You will be shocked on how the owners of the studios in America's movie industry might be racist. I will not say more about this because it might be offensive to some of the people of this forum hehe. In any case, I might also only be being my skeptical me again hehehe.


This is my advice on how to watch the movies nominated for best picture in order. You should begin with the movie with the feel good feeling and end it on the most boring movie hehe.

Movies you can watch with someone.

Coda
King Richard
Belfast
Licorice Pizza
Westside Story

Movies you should watch by yourself.

Dune
Drive my car
Nightmare Alley
Power of the dog

Nightmare Alley made me laugh in the ending when I watched it alone. There are some movies that you need to watch alone to take in the story and take in the character development.

Movie you should not watch:
Power of the dog.
Such a time waster. I am telling you already - don't waste time watching Power of the dog. It is depressing, slow and very boring. I wonder what has brough that movie nominated for the Oscar. However Belfast has a good story and have an excellent cinematography. Wonder piece of art!

Well, on a light note, you don't necessarily have to like a movie before other people likes it, remember the old saying "one man's food is another man's poison", this saying is not limited to food alone, it's relevant in almost everything including movies, it highly possible that a movie you don't like ends up being another person's favorite.

Makes me remember even now, most of the movies I watch, my wife hates them, and some times, I hate some of her choice of movies too, for this reason, we mostly don't watch movies together.
But comparing every movie generally , I did say all movies are good, it is us as individuals who choose which to like and which to dislike.

Exactly mate! We have to accept that we have our own type of views that others don't share because of that facts that we have our own different choices and wants in every aspects of like including the movies. There are also times that we can meet some people that share the same view with us, but times like that are not too often. Let's just respect each other :)

Good to see some life in the forum and people talking too. One thing is for sure that movies bring in so much life in people's busy schedule.
Taking out sometime - sitting together with family and friends is always a fun. Even the boring movie becomes so thrilling that one feels excited that at least they spent some quality time with loved ones!

There is something here that has a lot to do with what they want to sell us, I don't know if you remember that Donald Trump, when he was president in the USA, ordered all the money that went directly towards improving global warming to be withheld, because of how the things in the world these issues are not relevant, there are other interests in between that will always be above this, it is what I have always said, the business model for everything, so these types of films that serve to raise awareness sell us Other interests...

Green Energy and Global warming awareness today becomes a political tool already, I saw the news which its the Russians that funded these movement making US shutdown their oil drilling companies. Too bad now we are back to the reality that Energy is wealth and wealth is power in politics. 

Don't look up resembles what governments are doing today. Its a pity but its what is happening. While we like the next generation to enhale the air we breathe today, the objective is compromised by the desire in who governs the world.

I very much agree. Power of the Dog is certainly the most boring movie nominated for Oscar best picture and it appears there are bettors who speculate that the academy members might have voted for Coda as best picture. The odds have reduced from 5.00 to only 2.15.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/specials/entertainment/oscar-best-picture/oscar-best-picture-61f10b147d0388a7e3b146a5


I reckon this might be because Coda won the Producer's guild awards for best movie. I will bet for Coda. This might be similar to 2018 and 2019 where Green Book and Parasite won best picture versus the favorites.

Maybe for you and few others here on the thread, but for me Power of the Dog is probably the best out of nominated. With that being said, I do understand that slow burn dramas are not everyone's cup of tea and its a type of movie you either like a lot, or not at all, there's usually no middle ground with those. I fall into former group so I enjoyed it a lot. I am personally bored more with mindless action than with anything else.

As a matter of fact, CODA odds were 26 to win the Oscar when I started this thread (February 10th) so it means that people are massively betting on it. Despite that, I still think that it won't win award and I won't best on it.

I honestly didn't expect that as TPOFG won both BAFTA and Golden Globe in the most important category so I expected it to be far ahead of the others, but I won't complain at the increased odds , as it went from ~1.6 to 1.8.

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Fist post of the thread has been updated with the latest odds and I shifted order of some categories so it makes more sense.

That surely depends on the movie if the whole squad or family likes it and not for the sake of bonding, I mean the movie will be much more interesting to see if the majority of the squad or family wants it so that a movie won't be boring to sit throughout.

I even enjoy watching it with my friends and family when we have some to discuss about the movie. Its is always a pleasure sitting together and have great time together. Also listening to the song together brings in so many memories. People shed tears while listening to the songs and watching movies they used to do it with parents and family. It has so much power.

Has anyone gone through the songs which are in the list? Some of the songs are amazing, but apart from everything - I wish and pray that the best one wins, bet it the song or the movie. I am waiting for the final day to see which one wins.

Was just commenting elsewhere that I thought Dog was a decent movie, but I just didn't feel like it was good enough to win best film (note that I haven't seen any of the other nominees except Dune).

Big, big fan of slow burn too -- very few action films make it in my all-time -- but I just thought there wasn't enough other than good acting to make this memorable for me. Probably also as I quickly guessed what the secret was so soon (though the ending I didn't foresee).

Anyone else think a foreign film could do another surprise? I feel like predicting Oscars tend to be more about identifying trends.

Fair enough. I watched all nominees except Drive my Car which I plan to watch in the next couple if days (not easy to find 3 hours) and so far Dog and Dune are ahead of the others for me. While I liked Dog more, I wouldn't mind Dune getting an Oscar too just to remove that stigma around sci-fi movies never winning the Best Picture award.


Same here, guessed the secret too as you could really "feel it", but my wife guessed the end as well and managed to spoil it for me as I really didn't see it coming.


Since I haven't seen Drive my Car yet its hard for me to say (another slow burner that I think I will like) but that one is not as hyped as Parasite was back in 2020 and even film's subject isn't something very attractive to the Academy which we all know is a very important thing. If I remember the odds correctly, Parasite was right behind 1917 so while it was a big surprise that foreign film won the Best Picture award, it wasn't a complete outsider like Drive my Car is. If it was up to me, non-English movie should have won the Oscar year before too as I still believe that Roma is a far superior movie and that Green Book won only because of it's subject. Regarding your 2nd sentence, I totally agree and it's been going like that for some time now.

I am not a big fan of The power of dog, I am unsure why people admire this movie so much. I found it dull and boring. It is slow and is very sad indeed.
but than again - I agree as mentioned above predicting oscars tend to be more about identifying trends. Let's see which one wins.

@Rikafip. Thank you, it appears that you did not forget to post the latest odds so we could know which underdogs have won the award hehe. My bets are Coda for best picture, Benedict Cucumber for best actor, Kodi McPhee for best supporting actor, Licorice Pizza for best original screenplay and Spiderman no way home for best visual effects.

What was the odds for Ariana DeBose before March? I think it was Kirsten Dunst who was the favorite for best supporting actress when it was listed by sportsbooks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myjEoDypUD8

Will smith punch Chris Rock right on Oscars.

I know this is off topic here but just wanted to update a bit. He was laughing at first I'm not sure what happen there. All of a sudden he just walk straight to Chris and this isn't a joke at all. Glad to see Chris didn't retaliate right on the stage. Will the Oscar invite someone like Smith after this?

Not really off topic, off script for sure.   I figured that was a gag but they wouldnt have done the cursing, confusing because he laughed at it at first but maybe any kickback is cheaper then a divorce.
  If they are really desperate for the views I could believe it was just an act but what do I know and they arent short of views.

Summary of the results for all bettors.   Surprisingly Belfast did not win (it got screenplay), congrats to Mr.reporter :)
Dune got (many) production wins, pretty big for those makers
Jessica Chastain got best actress, good to see shes a class act :)
& Will Smith winning if anyone bet he'd get an Oscar 30 years ago you'd be a millionaire now

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/27/entertainment/oscar-winners-2022/index.html

Will Smith was hot favorite to win the Oscar. And he got it. I think its the part of drama. I don't think so anyone would dare to mock anyone so openly.
Sometime the shows adds some drama to get more hype and ranking. But Congratulations to Will Smith for winning the award. But a blunder he made, not sure if is really a blunder.

I didn't watch and I didn't place bet in Oscar awards but I heard what happened to Chris Rock and Will Smith, both of them are wrong. Chris Rock shouldn't make jokes about Smith's wife and Smith shouldn't hit him on a live TV and in front of other people he can just talk with him after that like a gentlemen.

Didn't pay attention to odds on most categories but best film, actor and score all seem to have settled on the pre-award favourites. And yes, Coda seems to have shocked some people as it's the first time a streaming service wins but there you go again with trends, Oscars have always snubbed non-traditional producers and I was certain this year would finally be the mould breaker.

Personally, don't "like" that Apple, Netflix et cetera are taking over but few people liked video taking over radio. Got to welcome change, right?


Amen on finding even 2 hours uninterrupted, for me this means very late at night for complete peace and quiet, but it also means my mind's operating at exhausted capacity. Been a real long time since could watch a film properly and into it. I definitely hope people view sci-fi different after Dune's massive performance here (but as much as I liked it, I still thought it was such an incomplete film, I guess star power and effects carried Dune here).

I couldn't watch the whole thing live because it was too late for me, but did this shit really happen?

https://i.imgur.com/944gmgT.jpeg

I can't say whether it was staged or not. It seems real, especially considering the language and what happened later. Anyhow, it was a bad joke for my taste, but a physical assault, especially during a live broadcast, isn't acceptable either.

When I read the news I thought it was a stunt to increase the ratings, but the more I watch and read about it the more I think that Will hit Chris Rock for real. This has to be probably the most bizarre Oscar thing I ever saw. The thing that really baffles me is how so many actors reacted to the incident by saying "oh he is from Philly, they are emotional ppl" or something along those lines, like wtf. I wonder what would happen if someone else hit Chris, someone like Mel Gibson who already has a  bad rep.

Looking from a bright side, at least we got a new meme template :D


This was entirely Will Smith's fault. Its a common practice on these awards to make fun of actors and they should be able to control themselves and if you think that what Chris Rock said was harsh, you might wanna check Ricky Gervais act while hosting Golden Globes.


I am one of those that don't mind seeing streaming movies getting awards, even though some (like Spielberg) argued that they should really be seen as a TV production, meaning they don't meet Oscar requirements of movie being played in cinema in order to be nominated. But then streaming companies sorted that by having movies being played in LA cinema for at least a week to meet that req.

As much as I love cinema and go at least once or twice per month, I think it's impossible to fight the trends considering billions of dollars that Netlix, Amazon, Apple and others are spending each year on production.

Movies lasting longer and longer has been ongoing trend for some time now. I don't mind character driven movies to last a little bit longer or some epic/history movie, but now we have shallow stuff like superhero movies lasting for two and a half-three hours and consisting  mostly of mindless action with no character development.

Regarding Dune, keep in mind that movie covered  only the first half of the book and sequel is coming next year so that's why you may feel its incomplete as it is. Unless by "incomplete" you mean that you miss something there. High budget (preferably HBO production) mini series would probably be the best format for something as complex as Dune, but its much easier to profit via movies.

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Regarding the winners, Dune kicked asses in tehnical categories as expected and I must say that I am kinda disappointed that CODA won Best Picture award, even though I generally liked the movie. Thing is, I don't think that its a good thing for film industry that remake win a Best Picture Oscar as it may only encourage studios to make even more of those, like we are not already swamped with remakes, sequels and prequels.

Will Smith had an outburst of anger because he couldn't control his emotions. He seemed to regret what he had done while receiving the award. But it was too late for everything. He behaved in a way that did not befit his professional career. He could have politely warned Chris Rock. He could have reacted by leaving the award hall. But his physical contact was a mistake.

Definitely a good point. We do have our own tastes and choices for everything, and this movie may be too far from your own choices, but for others it could be a great film. So if ever this film will gather a lot of awards, then there's really something great about this film but you're just too blind to see it. Well anyways, Belfast is an OSCAR nominated movie and is being praised for its sense of authenticity.

I watched it lived and that is not staged and if you try it in slow motion you can really see that he hit Chris and before that you can see Jada rolled her eyes and after that Will comes to stage and slaps Chris. Yes, I too think that was not a good joke but he can deal with it in other way and not through physical assault. That's a live broadcast and a lot of people are watching and I don't think seeing a violence on a live broadcast is good and tolerable.


ya.ya.yo!

yeah, it was a bad joke and it should not have been said, but it's kind of weird that no security or no one really responded when will smith slapped Chris Rock which made people think that the whole thing was staged to get people talking about the Oscars.

Still can't completely accept that it truly worked out. That slap was epic and Internet will occupied with discussing this for next a few days rather Oscar champs.

Will Smith regret later for his heinous demonstration? Most certainly you can't characterize his demonstration by any terms. I used to believe that Smith has a good sense of manner, but somehow his lost control him mind and it's not a scripted. That was genuine, you can't disrespect someone's wife like this. I heard the dreadful inhumane joke by Chris Rock, however that actual contact was a mix-up.

I doubt - in such a great show no-one can utter a word with out being pre-approved. I feel this is scripted. To get more views and recognition.
However this forum got some life. This is good thing. Otherwise the thread was least populated till yesterday's slap.

I have actually watched all of the foreign language movies except one of them and the winner was so obvious. In my country, one of the art museums has screenings of the foreign language oscar nominees every year. We are lucky enough to watch them. Although there were a lot of good movies, the obvious winner for the Best International Feature Film was 'Drive my Car'. It was already nominated for the Best Picture as well. Also, the academy has some kind of an Asian trend these years, or we can say Asian movies are more recognized these days, which they more than deserve. Parasite and Drive My Car are proud nominees and winners for Asian countries. I live across the world from Asia but can relate with their movies. If you have bet on Drive My Car for Best International Feature Film, you were already won before they announced...

I saw different opinions on this, but it seems to me that this is a staged episode. I have not heard that Smith beat his wife's lover, but here he directly showed how macho he is. Ridiculously, this is nothing more than an attempt to raise the ratings of a dying event.
By the way, I saw a lot of jokes on the topic: "The Oscar is still racist because Smith received the Oscar only after he attacked a black man."  ;D

Lol. He really is a macho - And surly it is no less than a publicity stunt. Because the comedian was composed too. And Will Smith knew what he has too. No-one can dare to make fun of anyone in particular at such a big event and in front of such a big crowd. Well Racist jock is too funny. Will Smith slapped the Oscar, showing what took them so long to bless him with the statue?

Now, this slapping situation makes this year's Oscars memorable.
So we don't know if it is indeed staged or not, because no one is suing Smith.
But whether it was real or not, they just made the event talk of the town.
Well, good promotion for this event but I think, Will Smith realized his not-so-good approach of the situation.
Being in the film industry for years, he should be thick-skinned by now. But he's human, he snapped at this point.

Coda I think was meant to win a lot, among the movies I've seen its Coda is my fav. Anyone one who carries the weight to care for their parents, I think can related in this movie. Didnt appreciate DUNE really, but it won and award.

So little time so much to do.
I have to says its hard to find uninterupted time to watch a movie, I have to wait until everyone is asleep that I sneak grab a snack and to the tv in the living room at 2AM. Only watched few.

It definitely doesn't look staged, but the only reason people think it could have been, was the fact that Will Smith has like 100 pounds on Chris Rock and he had the weakest slaps of all time, Chris didn't even take a step back, imagine how weak it must have been. So that is why some people considered it as a "warning slap and not a real one" versus some people said "it was a fake one".

I believe it was a real slap, but it wasn't like "I will knock you out" punch, it was just a gentlemen’s slap basically. Still the wrong party here is Will Smith, people can joke about whatever they want, that’s freedom of speech, you can joke, and then you could get cancelled for it if it is a bad joke and all, but you can't hit someone, physical violence in return of a joke? How could that even be compared.

I haven't seen any of the Oscars in their entirety but aren't dumb jokes (all the jokes ever made there) a traditional part of this event? And in all these years, Will Smith was the first to take it so seriously? I doubt that it was not staged. Today I saw a graph of the popularity of this event and judging by it, only three years ago it was 5 times more popular, probably the organizers are trying to somehow return the attention of the audience and come up with such things.

I'm not betting on the nominees for OSCARS 2022 but what happened above is totally unacceptable...

To be honest, from the bottom of my heart, I really understand what Will Smith feels when his beloved wife is made a joke by someone else, he is a great husband. He also certainly doesn't want the disease that his wife is currently suffering from to happen to his wife, what he shows is right and how a husband protects his wife's pride, even though society's view of it is wrong.

Well it has become a big issue, all stand-up comedy actors are in danger of getting slapped and the perpetrator gets away with it, Will is preaching love when he received the award how can he be a preacher of love if he is that violent and the worse is the Oscar committee did not do anything and even gave Will Smith a standing ovation, Chris Rock should file an assault charge for this.

I thought it was part of Chris Rock's presentation, however when the audio was turned off and censored in ABC's broadcast, I learn that it was a real slap. But I was still confused hehehe.

You ask will the academy invite someone like Will Smith after this? The answer would be they will certainly invite someone like Will Smith after this hehehe. It might pump the ratings.

https://i.ibb.co/QFnvqDH/3-AD325-F4-0125-485-E-9436-9-DFDFCE26-BFF.jpg

Also, Coda for best picture is my only winning bet. I have learned that in betting on the Oscars we should wait until the last week, wait for those odds that have fallen from high to low because it might be the winner. Coda was 17.00 and fell to 2.00, the best supporting actor also was higher before it went down. There were also other categories where this occured.

They copy/pasted Batman slapping Robin meme. So this is not a new meme template :D If I wasnt that lazy, I would have added text from Oscar into their speech bubbles :D

https://static1.srcdn.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Batman-Slapping-Robin-Meme-Explained.jpg

I think this was stages. They have done such things thousand times in movies. This was done on purpose, as Oscar ratings are low. Btw, their staging reminded me of a an old tv show parenting court :D There, people (mostly black Americans) fight with their partners, when it turns out they cheated and father raised someone else child. Or celebrate when the kid is not their and they dont have to pay aliments.

This was stages, because who would slap an opponent, when he talks bad about your wife? Straight punch, 1-2 combo or overhand is an answer in such situation. Not slapping.

Will Smith stood up for his wife. Yeah, right. And their couple say they have an open relationships and his wife now dates August Alsina (https://www.thechronicle.com.au/news/jada-pinkett-smith-admits-to-affair-with-august-alsina-while-married-to-will-smith/news-story/f5c44292fee81e91320987d1c22284d6), young guy. While being married. And Will accepts it. And he slapped Chris Rock for bad words. Why not slap a guy who does Wimoweh (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3xUF6mgvbw) with his wife ?

I think that was really a slap and not staged and as you can see in Will Smith's Instagram account he publicly apologized to Chris and see his action unacceptable and inexcusable though I understand that he just get by his emotions.

Source https://www.instagram.com/willsmith/

Yeah I know about that template but that's not the one I was referring to. This is one the memes using the new one :D

https://i.postimg.cc/rmDbVDXF/will-smith.jpg

Slapping a man is even more disrespectful than a straight punch. Also, real life fight looks nothing like a scene from a Hollywood movie, majority of people don't even know hot to throw a proper punch, let alone combos.

While actors are ready to do just about anything to get extra attention (Jussie Smollet is perfect example) I don't think that this was staged. Physical violence + cursing while we know how prune Hollywood has become? I don't think that Will Smith and Chris Rock were that stupid. Will Smith's erratic behavior after that just confirms that something was off the other night.

Did anything crazy or exciting happen at the Oscar’s, I hadn’t heard  :D. What a wild event. I tuned in a couple times throughout the evening just to check in on some of the winners as I bet on a few of them (will smith winning included) but of course the slap heard round the world took the evening. What a crazy event ! Lol.

He could have just talked it out with Chris Rock instead he assault the guy he lose a lot from these unfortunate events, even if the joke is in bad taste you don't assault a guy in front of millions, Chris Rock never saw it coming not even all of us, the Oscar should ban him from all events an attack on one comedian is an attack to all comedian he is a bad example he's been here for so many years, he should know how to react properly.

I agree.  At first I was a little unsure of how I felt about it.  I kind of thought Will Smith had some justification for doing so, but then thinking it over and hearing other peoples viewpoints around it, I've come to the conclusion that Will was completely in the wrong and needs to be punished accordingly.  Apparently Chris Rock didn't know about the medical issue with Jada, and it truly was a tame joke and not like he was making fun of her.  GI Jane was a bad ass, it would be different if she wasn't.  It wasn't a good joke though, but Smith should have confronted him on his own terms not in public.  Very embarrassing for the whole family.

I don't know about you, but I think that over the years in many films we have been prepared in some way, there are films that are so eloquent that there are some that predicted the way the world was going to act in the face of a pandemic, another movie in a war, there are even movies that make references to the fact that the world can become a very deadly virus that is with reference to zombies, and when reviewing some scientific facts they indicate that the most likely thing that can happen to the world it is a virus where people become something like zombies, I don't know but I think that in some way they have been warning us, it is not to be skeptical, but any event in reality is mere coincidence.

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In another order of ideas, what happened to Will Smith do you think Hollywood will close the doors of the famous actor? I understand that when they want to get someone out of the way in Hollywood they don't skimp on taking action even if the person is very famous. I have always supported that they defend all kinds of aggression against a woman or a child, although the use of violence is the last resort, unfortunately sometimes it is necessary.

I think Will Smith has an anger management issue and his wife is in total command of him, he is laughing when Rock is cracking a joke but there's a big turnaround after he saw his wife and his laughter turns to anger, this is a big disgrace for Oscar they should take action and ask Smith to bring back the trophy he doesn't deserve it, he did not represent on what the Oscar stands for, they should have security on stand by on the next Oscar.

we don't know what's going on with their lives, so imo, let them resolve what needs to be resolved. and by the way, we will hear soon from the Academy if will smith has violated the Academy's code of conduct and what they will do if it has been proven that he did. remember, it was televised and so many viewers have seen this incident. are they going to punish him or just let it go. now, we are talking about this incident rather than the winners. lol

Sorry but he should have instantly been walked out of that arena.  You know how many kids look up to these stars.  Doing nothing condones this.  Chris Rock is a comedian and everyone was getting roasted.  Wierd Smith allows other dudes to tag his wife but wigs out over a joke. 

He should be punished it's everywhere now, people might think that Oscar is a weak organization and they condone violence and hatred he crossed the line of decency, he is the first one to do that in Oscar, which means he shows no respect to the Oscar if Oscar will not punish guy like this, then expect more scenario like this to happen in the future.

I have been posting in the forum for weeks and I never saw people coming to this thread. But the Will Smith publicity stunt brought life to this forum. This is the power of drama and acting. The show got more followers and many people talking and discussing it. Hence a success.

I think Will Smith has a mental breakdown and mental health problem and we can't blame him if he snapped out but the good thing about it is that he admitted that he is wrong and he apologized to Chris Rock but still this is very controversial since it was done live and in front of everyone.

Yeah, but I guess he is just too emotional and doesn't want everyone including Chris Rock to make fun of Jada's predicament that's why he had to make that point, but it was during a live audience and no one anticipated it.

Everyone was surprised even the Network that they have to mute the mic and go on a break. And it seems that the people are divided, others are saying that it is an assault, while there are certain individuals taking Will Smith's side.

It looks like the main focus of the Oscars was that scene, does anyone here tried to place bet in Oscars awards? I don't think there's too many people here are placing bets with the Oscards or probably was aware of the Oscars I am only aware of it because of what happened between Will Smith and Chris Rock.

As if Will Smith does not know what of jokes Chris Rock usually tell. Check Chris Rocks stand-up performances. Lots of sexual and racist jokes. If this wasnt Oscar ceremony, his jokes would be more rude. I think, that if you cant laugh on a joke, dont listen to them, skip them, play your mobile games, or just leave, no one force you to sit there. If Smith has mental problems - go visit a doctor, get some pills. His is a celebrity and example how to behave for millions. Now he shows on public that it is ok to do violence. 

I was blown away by the movie "Dune" winning 6 Oscars !! The spice was flowing for this movie! .... I used to play video games like "Dune" and "Dune II" and "Dune 2000" back in the day, so I was looking forward to the movie. I have to say, I was a bit disappointed by the movie and I would never have guessed that it would win 6 Oscars!

In my opinion ...Will Smith took all the limelight in the 2022 Oscars and everyone will remember the 2022 Oscars for that slap and not for "Dune" winning 6 Oscars.  ::)

Not only with the Oscars, in several betting sites you can bet on sports with a lot of time and the odds change, so much so that sometimes it is preferable to withdraw the bet :)

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WS is a crybaby, in a good way, if you follow him he cries whenever he can, for example, in the reunion of the prince of rap, he did, he talks to Oprah he cries, he talks about his marriage he cries, he talks about his bad relationship with his eldest son, he cries, the guy wrote a sincere biography where he talks about the complex relationship he had with his father, it breaks him... so ok.

Now in the case of Sunday you cannot generate violence and then talk about love!!
If you have so much love, you should have had it to accept what, by culture, exists in American humor.

What happened here? come on, in the entertainment environment if a comedian makes fun of you, it means you're trending, sometimes I think that's a fucking thing, but it was said about Don Rickles that when an artist came to his presentations it was fucking terrible if he ignored you, and this guy based his presentations on insult, and this humorist is from the middle of the last century.

This seems like a simple slip, but it's weird, is it one of those things that lead you to think despite the circumstantial facts, what happened here? If we weren't sure what happened, if they told you about it, you would think it was an abduction-type story.

Yes what WS show was not right and slapping the host in front of everyone is very disrespectful, I see a lot of host who also make a bad joke in Oscar but it is part of the entertainment a big respect to Chris Rock for showing professionalism after he was slapped he continued with hosting and I lose respect to Will Smith in an instant.

Unless there are consequences for what Will Smith did then I am never going to believe this was real, after all they are actors, they would have trained doing something like it hundreds of times so it is obvious they could make it seem as real as possible since that is their job, so unless the Academy takes Will Smith’s Oscar and Chris Rock sues him for millions and millions of dollars then there is nothing that will change my mind this was staged.

At first, when I've watched that slap, I thought of it as an attention-seeking confrontation between the two. But after knowing that there's a heavy background and history about Chris' joke.

I have believed that it's a real thing.

Yeah, Will has already issued a statement about his apologies and he shouldn't have done that. Chris won't sue Will and that's how it ended and they don't want to prolong the issue anymore.

Now, Oscars' got popular owed to this slap incident.. ;D Maybe, the Academy won't give any penalty to Smith even if he broke their code of conduct because he made people talking about this event. He is now part of this historic moment in Oscars. I believe, the incident is real. Smith just made a mistake of doing it live in front of all these people. Anyway, congratulations to the winners. Let us see if Oscars will strip Smith's Best Actor reward here.

Initially i thought it was part of the act, but it is not and hence got the media coverage it got. Will Smith smacked Chris Rock for a comedy and he was also laughing at the joke until he saw his wife's reaction as the joke was directed to his wife. But to go out there are smack him in the face when the global audience is watching is outrageous and they should have taken his award right then without presenting to him.

If it was an act they would have conveyed it and not make a controversy out of as the academy is getting all the heat for not taking action against Will Smith.

The sad thing about all of this is that Oscars had the second least viewed after last years. I mean even one of the biggest news coming out of Oscars did not helped them get a higher rating. Oscars are just getting worse and worse, hell golden globes are a lot better at these days because they at least provide something to watch (mainly Ricky Gervais lol).

So, I do not think that it would really matter a lot, we have been talking about the slap for days now and it still doesn't make anything better for the future of Oscars. What's next, having a cage match between celebs? Staged or not, even if something like this can't save Oscars, I do not know what can.

I don't know what's with penalties.

But sure that incident made by Will did really took the attention not just on that Oscar but by the whole world. Well, there goes the statements about apologies and regrets.

So let's stop there and stop thinking that it was an act, the noise for that slap has made more attention than Will's award.  ;D

The decision on Will's case will come out in two weeks, there was a report that one of the members of Oscar asked Will to leave but he ignored them, here goes one guy assaulted one of their hosts, then declare him a winner and they gave them a standing ovation, Oscar was bullied by one guy and they have no action, Oscar just loses a reputation with this slapping incident, Will Smith just spit on their face, shame on the Oscar organization.

Ok, so now the 2022 Oscar got the attention of everyone (including us lol).
So, what are we going to bet here next?
Are we going to bet If the slap is staged or not?
Or are we going to bet If Chris would make a legal action against Will or not?
Nevertheless, betting on those still an Oscar related bet lol JK!

For me that looks staged and the same time not. I mean the joke on Jada was the worst part of it, but it's just so unprofessional for Will to resort with violence in front of national TV smh.

It's not staged, actually, Chris can make a lot of money here, he can charge Will Smith for assault and as millions have witnessed it he can make millions from settlement maybe 200 million as Jim Carrey estimated it because that scene will be forever and Chris Rock should be compensated for that humiliation he suffers, we have a thug here and all those who attended the ceremony are cowards for letting Will Smith to stay, win and celebrated, they should be ashamed of themselves.

Do you really think Rock would charge Smith ? Maybe they should have an exhibition fight (whoops, Smith trained for Ali role). What can I say, thank you Will for dragging attention from Ukraine-Russia.

I have never been slapped by a man. Is it really humiliating? Why Rock did not reply? A return slap or maybe say something? I still believe it was staged. I remember politicians do such performances, but they do to get attention, often before election.

Chris seemed genuinely surprised by the slap. My favorite part was Chris' reaction at the end, when he appeared completely flustered and at a loss for words. I do not believe it was staged. Initially, Will laughed at the joke, but after seeing his wife's reaction, he suddenly decided to go up on stage and confront Chris. I wonder what would have happened if Chris backed down and avoided the slap, would he chase him around the stage?  ;D

Both are actors. Not as hobby but top level actor :) one has also win an Oscar the same night :)
I think it was just fictional since no one with half working brain will do something on public. Or in certain scenario.
Violence is awful for any culture and more over is terrible to see in a live tv show.

Also both movements (slap of Willis and head of Chris) was very dramatic and theatricals. If you are hit by certain slap it's not easy remain calm or not have pain.
For sure what happens was "bad to see". But for sure we are talking much much more of the Oscar night compared to what has been done in the past edition. This last point suggest to me... that it was not a "mistake" but a move well programmed.  

Chris Rock said he is not going to press charges against Will Smith and now i do not think he will turn back and file a complaint. Will Smith looked like he is living a movie life and thought he is not going to have any repercussions, if not who in the right sense would do that when the world is watching.

When you least expect a slap or a punch you will be surprised and you will not be able to react and that is what you saw with Chris Rock, he never expected someone would slap him when is on a world stage when millions of audience are watching.

Chris Rock wont really press any charges but instead he do make out some apologies too that he had crossed out the line which it would be understandable that someone could potentially do something like that which is totally professional but what Smith had done is totally violence.He should'nt come into that option on where humilating someone in national TV which i do fully
agree on what Oasisman said on here.

But well, it do looks like its been settled already which both had realized their mistakes and i dont see for this one to be staged.

@Rikafip. This thread has gotten more attention after the Oscar awards presentation than before this when we were talking about the movies and which might be the best bets hehehe. I reckon it might be the correct time lock the thread.


It was not staged. Will Smith made a public apology through social media and the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences is considering removing Will Smith from being this year's best actor.

Well they are actors I guess maybe its stage. Although Will slapping Chris really snatched the attention of Oscar winners, the Oscar ratings as being on the news climbed up to 58% and the bitch slap must have helped. Even today there are still lots of people argued about its fakeness like you are saying but I couldn't help seeing how much Will cried.


Yup its time to lock the thread as its already over. There is nothing else to bet and I've lost. Poor judgement.