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I recently watched it too. Quite a futuristic movie actually, the funny tech they have like the dragonfly helicopter yet the soldiers are using swords. Doesn't seem to make sense to me and it's rare to see movies today that are more than 2 hours and it seems to have a sequel one day. It ended like they were just journeying to a new kingdom walking to the desert. Maybe I didn't follow much of the story, it's the boy that supposes to be the new leader as prophesized so that's just it. But it almost shows how politics work still even today. The movie is nominated in many categories so there is a chance. I'm doubting but probably like the Best film editing, Best cinematography, or Best visual effects.
Is any of us watching some polls that might help us bet for the win?
And so is Don't look up. When I started watching the movie I thought it will be funny but at the end I felt very sad. Although the ending is very fictional but this movie made things so scary. I don't know if anyone has noticed that is literally a parallel to how world looks at the climate change. That is the same we did with Covid.
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I recently watched it too. Quite a futuristic movie actually, the funny tech they have like the dragonfly helicopter yet the soldiers are using swords. Doesn't seem to make sense to me and it's rare to see movies today that are more than 2 hours and it seems to have a sequel one day. It ended like they were just journeying to a new kingdom walking to the desert. Maybe I didn't follow much of the story, it's the boy that supposes to be the new leader as prophesized so that's just it. But it almost shows how politics work still even today. The movie is nominated in many categories so there is a chance. I'm doubting but probably like the Best film editing, Best cinematography, or Best visual effects.
Is any of us watching some polls that might help us bet for the win?
And so is Don't look up. When I started watching the movie I thought it will be funny but at the end I felt very sad. Although the ending is very fictional but this movie made things so scary. I don't know if anyone has noticed that is literally a parallel to how world looks at the climate change. That is the same we did with Covid. That's makes 3 of us in this thread that's disappointed about the film, it's a star-studded movie with stars that you know can perform well to do comedy and drama but it didn't go well. It has a rating of 81% in IMDB though. Parallel like we didn't listen as well about how true the Climate Change or Covid is? We have just seen the lies told to us over and over that we don't believe anything anymore that comes from the mainstream media. Yes probably literally a parallel. Not sure what this film will win in Oscar actually. What I've watched recently is CODA 2021 film which is also nominated. The only teenager who can talk and heard but comes from a family of the deaf. She gained confidence thru the Choir trainer who discovers she can sing well. It's a touching movie. It's not the usual story. And kinda gives you the feeling of whether you can leave your family behind in pursuit of your dreams. She helps her family to keep their fishing business afloat. She's the only one who can hear in the family which is hard. In the end, it's the family that actually let her go to college for she won a scholarship. CODA is probably for Best adapted screenplay.
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Wasnt amazed by the story, I think its same old movie with prophesy to come true. Nothing special. Not very sure why the movie is nominated several times. While this may true, the whole Dune world is extremely complex and it's very hard to put all that in 2 movies like Villeneuve is planning, but I still think that he did a very good job. While you may debate whether it deserves Best Picture and Best Adapted Screenplay nominations (I say it does), you can't deny that nominations in tehnical categories & production categories are very well deserved. Speaking strictly about visuals, I haven't seen a movie that looks so good since Revenant. I have not watched all the movies yet but the movie so far that impressed me was the BELFAST, which every Ukrainian today may likely related too because its close to migrating and crossing borders due to war. But the story concentrates more on how the kid sees what is happening.
Belfast is definitely a decent movie but for me the best one that deals with all those Northern Ireland issues and "The Troubles" is Bloody Sunday (I re-watched it recently). It's fair to say that is a different type of movie, shot almost in a documentary style with hand-held cameras etc, but its a brilliant and very tense movie so you might wanna check it out if you haven't seen it already as It's even more relevant with all these things going on at the moment. I don't know if anyone has noticed that is literally a parallel to how world looks at the climate change. That is the same we did with Covid.
Yeah I think that was pretty obvious what's the movie messages. I do think movie should have been more subtle in a way it conveys the messages but its a very solid movie nevertheless. I am generally fan of Adam McKay though and his style so I expected at least a solid movie. What I've watched recently is CODA 2021 film which is also nominated. The only teenager who can talk and heard but comes from a family of the deaf. She gained confidence thru the Choir trainer who discovers she can sing well.
CODA was a pleasant surprise for me. I expected very little since I knew that it was a remake of a french movie called The Bélier Family and as you know Hollywood usually butchers originals. But every once in a while we get a good remake (remember Scorsese's The Departed that won Best Picture Oscar back in 2007?) and it might even get an Oscar, probably "The Best Supporting Actor" one.
Since I finally watched majority of the movies nominated in most important categories, I plan to share who I think it will win an Oscar and who I would like to win an Oscar in each category and invite you to do the same. So, I plan to do it like this: Best Picture:Who I think will win: Who I think it should win etc.
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I reckon if a movie wins best picture, best director, best actor or other major award in the Golden Globe, it increases the chance that those movies or actors and actresses might not win in the Oscar awards. I am not quite certain why this occurs, however, we have witnessed this many times. I speculate Coda or Belfast might presently have a chance hehehe.
Seems like I am the only one who is keeping a track of this form - not much people are interested in movies and what is going on in the cinema - I watched another movie today - Don't look up. There are so many critics who are calling this movie a rotten tomato. But this movie sheds a light on global warming and how we take things so light. It's unbelievable but than this is really happening.
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Seems like I am the only one who is keeping a track of this form - not much people are interested in movies and what is going on in the cinema - I watched another movie today - Don't look up. There are so many critics who are calling this movie a rotten tomato. But this movie sheds a light on global warming and how we take things so light. It's unbelievable but than this is really happening.
Rather, few people are interested in the opinion of "academicians" - most of the visitors to this forum do not care about them, since they have their own opinion. From a betting point of view, the Oscars are bullshit, so there isn't much discussion here. The film is really good, I was even surprised that "censorship" allowed it to come out because people can see too many direct analogies with what they see in real politics.
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The film is really good, I was even surprised that "censorship" allowed it to come out because people can see too many direct analogies with what they see in real politics.
While I generally liked the movie I don't see anything controversial going on there that would call for censorship of any sort. Unlike some other countries, United States don't have much issues with filmmakers criticizing and ridiculing politicians. For example, remember Fahrenheit 9/11 that won the Oscar back in 2005, or Vice that was also made by McKay and that also won Best Picture nomination. After all, Don't look Up is not going against mainstream narrative at all, and instead is just ridiculing politicians and general public. If this was truly controversial film that goes against any sort of currently popular narrative, you would never see Hollywood A-listers like Meryl Streep or Leonardo Di Caprio being part of them.
Looks like I will skip "betting on a "Best Actor in a Leading Role" category as 1.13 on Will Smith is simply too low and not a good bet to take. If it stayed round 1.3-1.4 like it was in the beginning, I would definitely put some money on it, but this is just not worth it. Having watched the movie, I honestly don't understand how in hell is he the clear favorite as imho Benedict Cumberbatch did a much better job in The Power of the Dog. In King Richard we see a classic Will Smith, nothing extraordinary but I doubt that we will see yet another upset in this category like the last year when Hopkins won over late Chadwick Boseman.
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The film is really good, I was even surprised that "censorship" allowed it to come out because people can see too many direct analogies with what they see in real politics.
While I generally liked the movie I don't see anything controversial going on there that would call for censorship of any sort. Unlike some other countries, United States don't have much issues with filmmakers criticizing and ridiculing politicians. For example, remember Fahrenheit 9/11 that won the Oscar back in 2005, or Vice that was also made by McKay and that also won Best Picture nomination. After all, Don't look Up is not going against mainstream narrative at all, and instead is just ridiculing politicians and general public. If this was truly controversial film that goes against any sort of currently popular narrative, you would never see Hollywood A-listers like Meryl Streep or Leonardo Di Caprio being part of them. What happened back in 2005, to put it mildly, is irrelevant for a long time. In recent years, the radicalization of society has greatly increased and Hollywood has taken one of the positions (in fact, there is no "diversity" that is proclaimed). Have you heard of such a thing as "cancel culture"? And how does it apply to some but not to others? I don't want to start a discussion of political issues here, but I hope you understand what I mean. By the way, have you heard, for example, about this? Tell me honestly, which film has a chance to win an Oscar - a film that tells about the difficult fate of a transgender who became a champion or about the difficult fate of a girl who became (assume that the film is fiction) a champion by defeating a transgender (in fact female vs male)? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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In recent years, the radicalization of society has greatly increased and Hollywood has taken one of the positions (in fact, there is no "diversity" that is proclaimed). Have you heard of such a thing as "cancel culture"? And how does it apply to some but not to others? I don't want to start a discussion of political issues here, but I hope you understand what I mean.
I am with you on this, and as I said I liked the movie but I just don't understand what is so controversial in the movie that would call for ban of any sort or that we should be lucky that it didn't get banned. It's a good satire, but it's definitely not touching any hard subjects. A-list cast tells you that this is a mainstream movie and not some subversive indie film that might actually upset someone. By the way, have you heard, for example, about this? Tell me honestly, which film has a chance to win an Oscar - a film that tells about the difficult fate of a transgender who became a champion or about the difficult fate of a girl who became (assume that the film is fiction) a champion by defeating a transgender (in fact female vs male)? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Yeah I heard about the case and we all know which one would be the favorite, unfortunately. I hope that all this agenda pushing might cause counter-reaction, like it happened in the late 60s that brought us New Hollywood. These things happen in cycle (at least for now) as then we had the 80s that were kinda purist, which was followed by much darker and more violent 90s. We just need some directors with balls.
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The film is really good, I was even surprised that "censorship" allowed it to come out because people can see too many direct analogies with what they see in real politics.
While I generally liked the movie I don't see anything controversial going on there that would call for censorship of any sort. Unlike some other countries, United States don't have much issues with filmmakers criticizing and ridiculing politicians. For example, remember Fahrenheit 9/11 that won the Oscar back in 2005, or Vice that was also made by McKay and that also won Best Picture nomination. After all, Don't look Up is not going against mainstream narrative at all, and instead is just ridiculing politicians and general public. If this was truly controversial film that goes against any sort of currently popular narrative, you would never see Hollywood A-listers like Meryl Streep or Leonardo Di Caprio being part of them.
Looks like I will skip "betting on a "Best Actor in a Leading Role" category as 1.13 on Will Smith is simply too low and not a good bet to take. If it stayed round 1.3-1.4 like it was in the beginning, I would definitely put some money on it, but this is just not worth it. Having watched the movie, I honestly don't understand how in hell is he the clear favorite as imho Benedict Cumberbatch did a much better job in The Power of the Dog. In King Richard we see a classic Will Smith, nothing extraordinary but I doubt that we will see yet another upset in this category like the last year when Hopkins won over late Chadwick Boseman. Agreed. I also liked Don't Look Up, however, in my own opinion it is not a movie that is deserving to be nominated for best picture. Don't Look Up being a Netflix movie appeared similar to an ordinary Saturday night TV movie. Disagree on Will Smith, there is a chance that we might witness another upset for best actor. There has not been a black actor who has won an oscar for best actor since 2007. The odds offered are high on Benedict Cucumber. This might be a good punt hehe.
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Agreed. I also liked Don't Look Up, however, in my own opinion it is not a movie that is deserving to be nominated for best picture. Don't Look Up being a Netflix movie appeared similar to an ordinary Saturday night TV movie.
Disagree on Will Smith, there is a chance that we might witness another upset for best actor. There has not been a black actor who has won an oscar for best actor since 2007. The odds offered are high on Benedict Cucumber. This might be a good punt hehe.
I too was surprised to see what has brought don't look up to the Oscar. I will be very surprised if it wins an award. The ending, in particular which showed that the elites were saved and they returned back to the world after decades was so so surprising. But sometime unpredicted things become reality - no one knows!
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Seems like I am the only one who is keeping a track of this form - not much people are interested in movies and what is going on in the cinema - I watched another movie today - Don't look up. There are so many critics who are calling this movie a rotten tomato. But this movie sheds a light on global warming and how we take things so light. It's unbelievable but than this is really happening.
Rather, few people are interested in the opinion of "academicians" - most of the visitors to this forum do not care about them, since they have their own opinion. From a betting point of view, the Oscars are bullshit, so there isn't much discussion here. The film is really good, I was even surprised that "censorship" allowed it to come out because people can see too many direct analogies with what they see in real politics. So people are so much into movies - I have learnt alot from films and cinematography. I am not sure why people are not much interested in discussing films and actor and visual effects. The forum is quite slow. But I would like to see opinion of people and what they think about movies and star and glitz and glam of oscar.
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What I've watched recently is CODA 2021 film which is also nominated. The only teenager who can talk and heard but comes from a family of the deaf. She gained confidence thru the Choir trainer who discovers she can sing well.
CODA was a pleasant surprise for me. I expected very little since I knew that it was a remake of a french movie called The Bélier Family and as you know Hollywood usually butchers originals. But every once in a while we get a good remake (remember Scorsese's The Departed that won Best Picture Oscar back in 2007?) and it might even get an Oscar, probably "The Best Supporting Actor" one. I actually thought its a very unique story with a unique kind of family. So it is not very new at all. There must be a difference between its story otherwise it would be complete plagiarism. The local film producer in my country also butchers Holly movies and its very obvious because everybody watches Hollywood movies. I wasn't following Oscar back in 2007 but I have watched The Departed several times with some friends who invited me to thier house, I just don't tell them I have already watched it. My favorite part of the movie was when his fellow student noticed him when he arrived in the FBI office and told another person that he never saw this guy again until today, who was also the one who killed Leo inside the elevator. My bet for Best Picture is Belfast. I already saw @bbc.reporter's bet on the first page. We're watching who else will post something like that.
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Agreed. I also liked Don't Look Up, however, in my own opinion it is not a movie that is deserving to be nominated for best picture. Don't Look Up being a Netflix movie appeared similar to an ordinary Saturday night TV movie. For me it it all depends on the competition each year. In some years I would agree that Don't Look Up ain't good enough to be nominated for Best Picture award, but given how kinda weak the last year was, I am not surprised that it ended getting nominated and same thing goes for last year which was also kinda weak. Covid really affected film industry and it will take some time before studios starts producing movies at the speed they were prior to 2020. The odds offered are high on Benedict Cucumber. This might be a good punt hehe.
Yeah I think its a good bet, given the odds and how good he was in the role. Then again, I wouldn't put a lot of money on that bet as I doubt that underdog will win two years in the row. I actually thought its a very unique story with a unique kind of family. So it is not very new at all. There must be a difference between its story otherwise it would be complete plagiarism.
You can copy a whole script word for word, as long as you credited the original creators of the movie and that's exactly what creators of CODA so all is clear there. It's not like they copied the idea and then "forgot"to mention original writers. Same thing happened with The Departed: they credited original writers as we could see the fact that it was remake didn't stop them from winning Best Picture Oscar. Piece of trivia from movie history: Akira Kurosawa earned more money from the rights that he got for A Fistfull of Dollars than he got for Yojimbo, the movie that was the basis for Fistfull of Dollars. What happened is that Sergio Leone basically copied the idea and script from Akira Kurosawa, but he didn't pay for the rights to use it, nor he mentioned it. In the end Kurosawa sued him and he got certain percentage of the films profit which in the end was much higher than he earned from Yojimbo.
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In recent years, the radicalization of society has greatly increased and Hollywood has taken one of the positions (in fact, there is no "diversity" that is proclaimed). Have you heard of such a thing as "cancel culture"? And how does it apply to some but not to others? I don't want to start a discussion of political issues here, but I hope you understand what I mean.
I am with you on this, and as I said I liked the movie but I just don't understand what is so controversial in the movie that would call for ban of any sort or that we should be lucky that it didn't get banned. It's a good satire, but it's definitely not touching any hard subjects. A-list cast tells you that this is a mainstream movie and not some subversive indie film that might actually upset someone. Maybe I exaggerated, but it seemed to me that this film could have direct analogies with the covid pandemic. The pandemic was real, but most of the world's governments rushed to make their power totalitarian, even often to the detriment of the fight against the pandemic. The film and the pandemic almost coincided in time, so it could be perceived as a satire not of politicians in the "general" case, but as a satire of a specific covid pandemic.
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March 21, 2022, 06:27:18 PM |
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The film is really good, I was even surprised that "censorship" allowed it to come out because people can see too many direct analogies with what they see in real politics.
While I generally liked the movie I don't see anything controversial going on there that would call for censorship of any sort. Unlike some other countries, United States don't have much issues with filmmakers criticizing and ridiculing politicians. For example, remember Fahrenheit 9/11 that won the Oscar back in 2005, or Vice that was also made by McKay and that also won Best Picture nomination. After all, Don't look Up is not going against mainstream narrative at all, and instead is just ridiculing politicians and general public. If this was truly controversial film that goes against any sort of currently popular narrative, you would never see Hollywood A-listers like Meryl Streep or Leonardo Di Caprio being part of them.
Looks like I will skip "betting on a "Best Actor in a Leading Role" category as 1.13 on Will Smith is simply too low and not a good bet to take. If it stayed round 1.3-1.4 like it was in the beginning, I would definitely put some money on it, but this is just not worth it. Having watched the movie, I honestly don't understand how in hell is he the clear favorite as imho Benedict Cumberbatch did a much better job in The Power of the Dog. In King Richard we see a classic Will Smith, nothing extraordinary but I doubt that we will see yet another upset in this category like the last year when Hopkins won over late Chadwick Boseman. Agreed. I also liked Don't Look Up, however, in my own opinion it is not a movie that is deserving to be nominated for best picture. Don't Look Up being a Netflix movie appeared similar to an ordinary Saturday night TV movie. Disagree on Will Smith, there is a chance that we might witness another upset for best actor. There has not been a black actor who has won an oscar for best actor since 2007. The odds offered are high on Benedict Cucumber. This might be a good punt hehe. When I read Benedict Cucumber, I laughed... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I know you just typed Cucumber instead of Cumberbatch for the fun of it. I watched both films, and I am more on Cucumber her for Best Actor. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But you know when it comes to Oscars, they have their own mood of selecting the winners. So better relax and watch. If you will put money on this, don't expect much. Just place bet for the excitement.
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March 21, 2022, 06:38:57 PM |
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When I read Benedict Cucumber, I laughed... ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I know you just typed Cucumber instead of Cumberbatch for the fun of it. I watched both films, and I am more on Cucumber her for Best Actor. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) But you know when it comes to Oscars, they have their own mood of selecting the winners. So better relax and watch. If you will put money on this, don't expect much. Just place bet for the excitement. Has anyone seen the worst person the world? The movie is nominated in the best original screenplay. Renate Reinsve did so well in the movie some performances don't require any validation. There is a massive amount of empathy shown towards each character, for all their vices and faults. At some point, in the daily confusion and uncertainty of our lives, we've all felt like "the worst person in the world.” What a wonderful movie!
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March 21, 2022, 10:23:34 PM |
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I am excited that one of my favorite songs “be alive” is in the list. This is so powerful song. I am touched my favorite part is look how we’ve been fighting to stay alive so when we win we will have pride. This is so apt keeping the current situation in consideration. We are all striving to be alive. I am sure this song is going to win. I can even bet on this song if there is any channel where one can bet on Oscar! Fingers crossed!
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March 22, 2022, 05:50:06 AM |
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What I've watched recently is CODA 2021 film which is also nominated. The only teenager who can talk and heard but comes from a family of the deaf. She gained confidence thru the Choir trainer who discovers she can sing well.
CODA was a pleasant surprise for me. I expected very little since I knew that it was a remake of a french movie called The Bélier Family and as you know Hollywood usually butchers originals. But every once in a while we get a good remake (remember Scorsese's The Departed that won Best Picture Oscar back in 2007?) and it might even get an Oscar, probably "The Best Supporting Actor" one. I actually thought its a very unique story with a unique kind of family. So it is not very new at all. There must be a difference between its story otherwise it would be complete plagiarism. The local film producer in my country also butchers Holly movies and its very obvious because everybody watches Hollywood movies. I wasn't following Oscar back in 2007 but I have watched The Departed several times with some friends who invited me to thier house, I just don't tell them I have already watched it. My favorite part of the movie was when his fellow student noticed him when he arrived in the FBI office and told another person that he never saw this guy again until today, who was also the one who killed Leo inside the elevator. My bet for Best Picture is Belfast. I already saw @bbc.reporter's bet on the first page. We're watching who else will post something like that. Those picks are only my choices during that day and they might change. I have also mentioned that Licorice Pizza might win for best original screenplay after watching it. I have not watched it when I shared those picks.The odds offered are high on Benedict Cucumber. This might be a good punt hehe.
Yeah I think its a good bet, given the odds and how good he was in the role. Then again, I wouldn't put a lot of money on that bet as I doubt that underdog will win two years in the row. Yes, only a small bet hehehe. It is also only a bet if the academy would allow a black actor to win as best actor in this year's Oscars hehehe. I will not share more of my thoughts on that racism conspiracy. I might get cancelled hehehehehe.
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March 22, 2022, 01:16:56 PM |
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This feels like a bit of a weird year for some reason as someone who's an American who watches a lot of movies, I've barley heard of the nominees this year. ( funny thing as I'm typing this message an Oscars ad just popped up on the TV lol ). I have seen Don't Look Up and absolutely loved it as well as a couple of the other movies. It's so hard predicting who's going to win. I'm going to try and watch a few more of these movies so I can then make an informed bet on all this.
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March 22, 2022, 02:34:51 PM |
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Agreed. I also liked Don't Look Up, however, in my own opinion it is not a movie that is deserving to be nominated for best picture. Don't Look Up being a Netflix movie appeared similar to an ordinary Saturday night TV movie. For me it it all depends on the competition each year. In some years I would agree that Don't Look Up ain't good enough to be nominated for Best Picture award, but given how kinda weak the last year was, I am not surprised that it ended getting nominated and same thing goes for last year which was also kinda weak. Covid really affected film industry and it will take some time before studios starts producing movies at the speed they were prior to 2020. The odds offered are high on Benedict Cucumber. This might be a good punt hehe.
Yeah I think its a good bet, given the odds and how good he was in the role. Then again, I wouldn't put a lot of money on that bet as I doubt that underdog will win two years in the row. I actually thought its a very unique story with a unique kind of family. So it is not very new at all. There must be a difference between its story otherwise it would be complete plagiarism.
You can copy a whole script word for word, as long as you credited the original creators of the movie and that's exactly what creators of CODA so all is clear there. It's not like they copied the idea and then "forgot"to mention original writers. Same thing happened with The Departed: they credited original writers as we could see the fact that it was remake didn't stop them from winning Best Picture Oscar. Piece of trivia from movie history: Akira Kurosawa earned more money from the rights that he got for A Fistfull of Dollars than he got for Yojimbo, the movie that was the basis for Fistfull of Dollars. What happened is that Sergio Leone basically copied the idea and script from Akira Kurosawa, but he didn't pay for the rights to use it, nor he mentioned it. In the end Kurosawa sued him and he got certain percentage of the films profit which in the end was much higher than he earned from Yojimbo. Thats good. Creating a plot and making scripts can be hard. They'd have to get paid. I think there are several versions of Fistfull of Dollar already like that of Magnificent 7. Kind of western still. I like western movies espeically done by Tarantino. I've only become interested in movies this 2020 since covid, theres no much to do but watch the screen. So I was kind of surprice how some of the nominees in OSCAR were released on netflix and some of them are actually series.
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