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Title: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: jerry0 on February 23, 2022, 07:50:23 PM
So btc prices and likewise altcoin prices has been going down.  As many notice altcoins follow btc directly pretty much.  But when you check on coinmarketcap, they always have a list of top


Trending
Biggest Earners
Recently Added



You can also see which coins are the biggest losers as well within the last 24 hour.



Now if the altcoin is like top 100 altcoin, it will pretty much follow how btc is going.  



But what about these altcoins like Silva Token, Doge Riseup, Nurifootball etc.




First off, how do you even find out about these coins?


Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?


Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: tvplus006 on February 23, 2022, 09:44:27 PM
...But what about these altcoins like Silva Token, Doge Riseup, Nurifootball etc...

When searching for information about the coin you are interested in, you are in addition to the rating Coinmarketcap.com you can also use Coingecko.com. There you will also find information where you can buy the coin you are interested in.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: tabas on February 23, 2022, 09:48:48 PM
First off, how do you even find out about these coins?
They're likely being added and it's like really you're searching for them.

Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?
When it has already dumped, they can make their own pump if a whale pumps them. Most of those altcoins that you have said are tokens or coins that are being pumped and dumped by most of the traders of it on dexes. You can learn about them if you search for them.

Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  
Not all the time altcoins are relying on bitcoin's move.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: ryzaadit on February 23, 2022, 10:07:48 PM
Or shittoken/coin.

Come one mate, the only one reason why while other coin especially major asset is going down all of them and some random/uknown token is going up. That's a shittoken/coin, they have small liquidated/trading volume with gap order price book.

Off course is easy to be manipulated + jump price really high comparing major coin who really have a tight gap orderbook.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: WalkerIVIV on February 23, 2022, 11:36:46 PM
People are find them through various source like poocoin or bsc bot. I think that it's not even relevant to mention all of them jjust because they are still green when the market is dumping and why? it's caused by they are going even deeper than the market right now. Mentioning pump and dump coin as a coin that can survive during the bearish market was a wrong thing.
Don't you take a look at your silva token and how it was getting -50% at this time? that proves that pump and dump token will only be manipulated in a short time but the result will be even worst in long term.
I think that you must also learn from this.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: jerry0 on February 26, 2022, 05:41:22 AM
Look at the biggest gainers in the last day.  Shiba tron and Baby Squid Game. 


So do coins on pancakeswap just go up regardless of whether btc goes up or not?  I thought if btc drops big, literally the whole crypto market drops?  So these coins are not affected?


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: adzino on February 26, 2022, 07:42:52 AM
So btc prices and likewise altcoin prices has been going down.  As many notice altcoins follow btc directly pretty much.  But when you check on coinmarketcap, they always have a list of top


Trending
Biggest Earners
Recently Added

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Click in one of those tokens and you will see that they are 100% shitcoins and tokens. See the volume of those coins. They are usually less than $10k. The coins are being pumped by the scammers before they get dumped. Like right now I see three coins over there MetaNFT, Creamefinance and Shibadoge. Based on their names, you should already know they are shitcoins made for scamming people. Clicked on the coins and guess what. The coins are being pumped and dumped.
Don't rely on CMCs "trending biggest earner and recently added" stats.  They are useless.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: lobo13hf on February 26, 2022, 07:50:17 AM
Look at the biggest gainers in the last day.  Shiba tron and Baby Squid Game. 
Shiba tron and baby squid game just scam token. The both got pumped so hard and this pump will not sustain for long term. You can see what will be happening with shiba tron and baby squid next week and im sure that these meme tokens will be dropping drastically. People are just pumping and dumping on pancake swap. Pancake swap was the house for so many pump and dump tokens.
So do coins on pancakeswap just go up regardless of whether btc goes up or not?  I thought if btc drops big, literally the whole crypto market drops?  So these coins are not affected?
Shit token on pancake swap didn't follow bitcoin but it was getting jumped due to the hype. These coins are not affected but it can drop even deeper or until the price reach zero value.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: jerry0 on February 26, 2022, 05:59:06 PM
It showed over a million dollars in volume for shiba tron in volume on coinmarketcap.  So that is incorrect?


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: poodle63 on February 26, 2022, 11:48:47 PM
shitcoins and memecoins hardly gets affected by the movement of bitcoin because they are just coins made for manipulation and their market has their own agenda of bullish and bearish because its getting controlled by someone with big capitals behind it.
but if you think that you could make quite the fortune out of these shitcoins and memecoins, maybe you could, but big chance you gonna losing your investment because as I already said, market being manipulated, always bring lose for anyone that gets in and try investing.
instead, it’s just better investing in a altcoin that’s already going down from bearish because its gonna be having bigger chance of recovering back its former valuation.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: sheenshane on February 26, 2022, 11:59:28 PM
It showed over a million dollars in volume for shiba tron in volume on coinmarketcap.  So that is incorrect?
It's obviously manipulated the price, they don't have an actual market cap which is easily manipulated by big players.
You should be careful on this if you're planning to invest because it's risky when you fall on this kind of trap, it's a hype token that is obviously are prone to scam.  Most meme coins are scam only manipulators was brought there on the top of the marketcap.

Choosing a potential coin that will profit but less risk should have this "Market Cap = Current Price x Circulating Supply".


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: X-ray on February 27, 2022, 03:36:34 AM
It showed over a million dollars in volume for shiba tron in volume on coinmarketcap.  So that is incorrect?
That's fake volume. This token already rugpulled and it goes down -99%. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/shiba-tron/

You must aware if almost all of tokens on pancake swap was scam token. that's proven that if the pump didn't matter as it will be going to the zero value. This token is dead. The same thing will be happening with another token as these tokens created by bunch of scammers.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on February 27, 2022, 04:55:33 AM
But what about these altcoins like Silva Token, Doge Riseup, Nurifootball etc.
Never heard such names but obviously these are altcoin memecoin or shitcoins. Top 100 are major coins and tokens that has btc paired. Of course their movement is depend on the overall market. These tokens arent related much to many pairing and possibly only on chain that there have been liquidity. If those paired go down likely they are affected but not much on btc. Only those l1 that are related to btc are gonna get affected and due to this we could say that their price action could also be. But some arent due to hype and few market volatility or lack of trading volume.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Psynthax on February 27, 2022, 05:57:22 AM
Shit tokens have no correlation with bitcoin coz the shit tokens fully manipulated by the whale. The whale can pump or dump it anytime. It will not follow bitcoin even when bitcoin was bullish and there were so many shit tokens become zero. It's caused by the whales have been using the newbies who become late joiners as exit liquidity. That's pretty similar like ponzi scheme as the early tou get it and the more money you get when you are going out from there. So many people are hunting this ponzi scheme due to the possibility to make them all beeing rich guy in a night. The only problem is when you are being so late to take out yourself from the LP and then you will be ended by losing all of your money


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: kojektea on February 27, 2022, 09:20:51 AM
I haven't seen a coin that's definitely in this condition, but it could be from any coin that was hype at the time, because when the hype is down even though the bitcoin market is down they will fly high. this has happened to SOL before, but I've never seen it again. because it rarely happens.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: ANSEL_2.0 on February 27, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
Altcoins that surge when market is down are limited in number and they are harder to predict, it's a general idea that once BTC start going up every altcoins will follow at one point but not this coins, there is no reason to keep such coins I'd rather choose from the list of normal altcoins we all know.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: ethereumhunter on February 27, 2022, 11:34:48 AM

First off, how do you even find out about these coins?
Do you mean those coins you mention? Hm, I do not find out about that. You can check on CMC to find the info but you should visit their website to see more details.


Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?
In CMC, you can find many things, including the exchanges for the coins. If the coin is not listed on CMC, you need to wait for some time or ask their team what exchange they used.

Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  [/b]
I guess it is not but I do not know. But many altcoins follow where bitcoin moves as bitcoin lead them.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 27, 2022, 12:06:01 PM
Mostly they are shitcoin, meaning regardless of bitcoin going up or down, they are going to be pump hard. Maybe it's just a coincidence that they've mooning when the price of bitcoin goes down, otherwise there are no correlation whatsoever. Some of the users have already explain where to find those, and if you are interested then good luck and hopefully you can make money out of it.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Marykeller on February 27, 2022, 01:18:12 PM
Coins that surge when the bitcoin price is down can't be trusted. That kind of coins their price are manipulated just to attract many investors. After they have gained many investors, the price will be dumped so hard.
Being so inquisitive about the surge of a project will make you invest wrongly. Don't be blown away easily by the price of top gainers, shitty coins can be on top gainers on CMC


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: hugeblack on February 27, 2022, 01:46:45 PM
These currencies have small market capacities. When there is a change in supply by a percentage such as 10 million dollars, you will find that the currency has increased by 100%, but due to the limited liquidity, it is difficult to liquidate a large amount, especially since the currency is listed on certain platforms. In short, this type of currency is divided into:

 - pumping and dumping coins: Whatever the reason for pumping, what happens will affect the price, the growth will be unhealthy, price is volatile and the collapse is rapid.
 - Increased demand: This can happen if there is a compelling reason, and therefore growth will be healthy and low in the long run

Therefore, it is difficult to make a profit from such an investment, do not let greed control you.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Silver80 on February 27, 2022, 01:58:47 PM
So btc prices and likewise altcoin prices has been going down.  As many notice altcoins follow btc directly pretty much.  But when you check on coinmarketcap, they always have a list of top


Trending
Biggest Earners
Recently Added



You can also see which coins are the biggest losers as well within the last 24 hour.



Now if the altcoin is like top 100 altcoin, it will pretty much follow how btc is going.  



But what about these altcoins like Silva Token, Doge Riseup, Nurifootball etc.




First off, how do you even find out about these coins?


Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?


Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  


In my opinion, what will go up are stable coins, because they will be exchanged when market conditions go up, so the demand for these stable coins increases so that the rate will also increase but because these coins follow the price of the currency the increase is not so rice playing at that level.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Yamifoud on February 27, 2022, 02:13:54 PM
Mostly they are shitcoin, meaning regardless of bitcoin going up or down, they are going to be pump hard. Maybe it's just a coincidence that they've mooning when the price of bitcoin goes down, otherwise there are no correlation whatsoever. Some of the users have already explain where to find those, and if you are interested then good luck and hopefully you can make money out of it.
I guess, someone has been able to manipulate their price in order for them to look good despite the market corrections.
In fact, these coins that had mentioned by OP seem not performing so well, that gonna be surprised at how it pumps in this situation.
Well, sending good luck is meaningful but I suggest for the OP not to push this, or else, regrets will happen next, probably.

We are investing to make money and that only happens if we invest the coins too.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Vatimins on February 27, 2022, 02:34:48 PM
     You know what you lack op? Motivation. Because if you had enough motivation, you would have already researched about this and have already made profits investing pennies on these shitcoins. With effort, these things are easy to understand and learn about so do yourself a favor and take it seriously, I promise you, you won't regret it.

     Aswering some questions for you and giving a few advice since I also once was in your place it's just that we acted differently. Looking for them is easy with cmc and coingecko which was already mentioned by others. Another way is subscribing on airdrop signals, but don't just buy whatever is being signalled. Instead, look into the vital parts of a project like the developers, white paper, community, tokenomics and usecases. Now if after reading through all that you find a good one, then invest a few dollars that you can brush off when it gets rugpulled and take profits whenever available then leave a few for speculative profits just in case the coin shoots up even more. Getting in paid signals is also an option but that only applies for people with a good amount of money to spare. And lastly, just because bitcoin is dominant, doesn't mean that the whole market will follow it all the time. Hope this helps.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: joeperry on February 27, 2022, 03:07:09 PM
First off, how do you even find out about these coins?

Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?

Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?

You can check coins, their groups and announcements usually if those coins have interesting updates or achieve a milestone the price could go up even all the coins are down. Altcoins are usually coins that is not Bitcoin so any other coins whether it is from ETH, SOL, MATC or any network it is considered as an altcoin.

No, the only correlation I see is when that coin can be exchanged to BTC like ETH/BTC, SOL/BTC, etc.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: 19Nov16 on February 27, 2022, 03:13:38 PM
In the short term of course there are altcoins that go up even though the top rank is red, but I'm sure this won't last long and only a momentary pump to attract investors' attention, and now it's easy to see in the coinmarketcap session the biggest gainers/losers section.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: danherbias07 on February 27, 2022, 03:24:28 PM
Never heard of those coins. There's a bunch of altcoins listed in coinmarketcap now but I can remember who is doing great even in a dump season.
I don't think those are the healthy coins that I saw.
One possibility is the manipulation behind it. Don't get fooled by numbers written in front. SilvaToken for example, known exchange is PancakeSwapV2 but look at the volume. The highest volume is within an exchange called Indoex. But check the liquidity.
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Low liquidity means that markets have few opportunities to buy and sell, and assets become difficult to trade.
Google.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Pejoh Asu on February 27, 2022, 03:40:16 PM
Of course, top ranking coins such as BNB, ETH, Terra and so on will increase even though the market is down, strong coins certainly make investors not hesitate to buy and hold, while new coins will be difficult when the market is down and the thing they can do is convince community to always buy and hold.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Semar Mesem on February 27, 2022, 04:07:07 PM
In general, crypto is strongly influenced by the top 25 rankings, and the biggest factor that has the most influence is of course bitcoin, when bitcoin goes up 1% then altcoins will go up by more than 1% and vice versa, to find coins that go up while the market is red is of course very difficult, if the going up is a strong coin then that is because it is purely from market demand, but if it is still a new coin then it is pumping.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: makishart on February 27, 2022, 04:34:54 PM
have not you seen before about the existence of what we have called that as scam tokens? This token being issued by the scammers and then traded on the decentralized exchange site that was fully operated based on the swap mechanism. Due to the low liquidity and even when you are buying with only a few thousands of USD and this enough to make the price of token to go to the moon.  This is making the shit tokens like that didn't follow bitcoin. Bitcoin is moving based on the news and fundamental while this shit token based on the hype.
Hype gone = dead. This is the cycle in the shit scam token. You must not be surprised if sometime it was getting hundreds percent of pump


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: SirLancelot on February 27, 2022, 06:04:53 PM
I think what you said there op is true. Last time I check CMC and there are coins with weird names that are still rising despite the dump of the top coins. I think those coins are mostly meme coins, some are not meme coins but I think they aren't only popular.

It is nice to know that those coins have been given a break to shine because they are hardly noticed when the majority of top coins are pumping. Those coins are already in the CMC, why are you still asking if where to find them?  You can also click the coin inside the CMC and click on the market tab to know if which exchanges are these coins listed. not all of them are related to ETH but some are from BSC and other chains.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: husdemba on February 27, 2022, 06:15:09 PM
Currently, the future of all cryptocurrencies depends on the performance of Bitcoin. Bitcoin dominance should increase now and remain stable thereafter. When investing in an altcoin, you should definitely pay attention to the Bitcoin charts  :-\


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: franch on February 27, 2022, 07:00:08 PM
When I check the market prices, I always see that altcoins are shaking a lot. However, I also experienced that when main coins such as BTC,ETH go up, altcoins generally go down. The move is quite big actually. BTC is originated in 2008. Back then there were no altcoins. When BTC became popular, altcoins occured. In 2013 and 2014, altcoins occured and they are still growing. In 2017 there were 600 new altcoins, therefore they had to depend on BTC. As they are quite a lot, it is impossible to follow all of them. Therefore, in my opinion we can say that altcoins heavily depend on the whole market. :)



Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Teraboy on February 27, 2022, 11:45:27 PM
I have been trading shit tokens during the bearish market and yeah it was doing so well as long as you are early joiners. It will be pumped by the big player no matter how condition the crypto market. Im not even feeling doubt about that. I can still make money from the shit token. Shit token being pumped and sometime this will be also following bitcoin price movement. It's called shit token who can stand alone against bitcoin trend but this is only for short term. The long term will be even worst than those who have been following bitcoin trend. These coins may become worth nothing. Trading in these shit tokens are very risky these days if you have no knowledge about this


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Dr.Osh on February 28, 2022, 05:08:53 AM
these coins are usually new coins, coins that are undergoing new developments such as listings on several exchanges or something, or the team deliberately makes the coin go up to get people interested. There are many reasons why a coin goes up when the bitcoin price is down.
however, how to find it, I usually just look at the coinmarketcap, and see which coins are falling the lowest, and which coins are going up high. with that we can get that information.
Second, I usually choose coins with large exchanges, such as Binance, Kucoin, Huobi, and so on. if the coin just climbs on a pancake, or any other DEX, I doubt it.
and thirdly, almost all coins have a correlation with bitcoin, except for stable coin. if the price of the coin goes up during a bear market, there will be a reason for it, except for a scam coin that deliberately makes it look like a pump to attract new investors before making a rug pull.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: JangoUnchained on February 28, 2022, 05:36:17 AM
Avinoc is one of those tokens, it's been trading @0.4$ for few months already on Bkex exchange even while the whole market is down this token wasn't affected at all.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Pujangga on February 28, 2022, 05:59:02 AM
Of course there are no coins or tokens that can be green when the market is red, this is what makes us always wise and patient to invest cryptocurrencies, if our goal is long term then don't check prices daily, it's better to focus on the most important goal is to maintain so that assets are safe from hackers.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: sana54210 on February 28, 2022, 02:18:40 PM
When I check the market prices, I always see that altcoins are shaking a lot. However, I also experienced that when main coins such as BTC,ETH go up, altcoins generally go down. The move is quite big actually. BTC is originated in 2008. Back then there were no altcoins. When BTC became popular, altcoins occured. In 2013 and 2014, altcoins occured and they are still growing. In 2017 there were 600 new altcoins, therefore they had to depend on BTC. As they are quite a lot, it is impossible to follow all of them. Therefore, in my opinion we can say that altcoins heavily depend on the whole market. :)
That is not how it happens; I mean not technically how it happens (sort of happens). When bitcoin goes up, the price of altcoins versus bitcoin goes down, but when the price of bitcoin goes up in dollar, altcoins go up as well.

It may not go up as much as bitcoin, hence why they are dropping in value against bitcoin but they are gaining in dollar. Look at the past 2021 year. Look at all the times bitcoin moved up, and look at all the times altcoins moved up, you will see that it is almost exactly the same date. Doesn't mean that it is 100% always like that, but the majority is always like that. So, bitcoin going up in dollar value means altcoins going up in dollar value as well.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: D ltr on February 28, 2022, 02:38:09 PM
fake volume can green the value of one coin. where when the market is red it's green itself, and goes up 100% or even more, that often happens with meme coins. not for real coins like LTC nad more , cos if BTC red all altcoin must be red


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: JeWay on February 28, 2022, 03:32:51 PM
Several factors trigger Altcoins to rise when the market trend is falling .

1. The presence of big news can trigger hype among traders to look at Altcoins that are able to break through high bulls when the market is bearish

2. At this stage we can look at the case of tokens that are able to be played by some whales to attract traders' interest, such as the small sell order book which makes it easy for whales to manipulate prices.

3. Newly born or newly listed tokens on the exchange will always be a crucial point for potential new entrants meaning the increase is triggered by news and will not last long.

maybe some of us have experienced in this case and a good lesson is to research and look for accurate information on every increase that occurs.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: makishart on March 01, 2022, 11:41:53 PM
fake volume can green the value of one coin.
It's not fake as it was on the decentralized exchange site but that's fully manipulated by someone who has been pumping the price of token by adding massive liquidity at once. This is triggering people to invest in the coin as well.
People are seeing the performance of this token was being different compared with the majority of altcoins in the market caused by that. The fact that shit tokens are always doing this kind of pump and is suspect some developers of shit tokens have been pumping their own tokens. This can be a trap.

where when the market is red it's green itself, and goes up 100% or even more, that often happens with meme coins. not for real coins like LTC nad more , cos if BTC red all altcoin must be red
Yeah and that makes the price movement of shit tokens become different compared with another token. People are seeing meme token as a place to make money or money generator caused by this. but this depends on how lucky you are.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: TimeTeller on March 01, 2022, 11:46:00 PM
fake volume can green the value of one coin.
It's not fake as it was on the decentralized exchange site but that's fully manipulated by someone who has been pumping the price of token by adding massive liquidity at once. This is triggering people to invest in the coin as well.
People are seeing the performance of this token was being different compared with the majority of altcoins in the market caused by that. The fact that shit tokens are always doing this kind of pump and is suspect some developers of shit tokens have been pumping their own tokens. This can be a trap.

where when the market is red it's green itself, and goes up 100% or even more, that often happens with meme coins. not for real coins like LTC nad more , cos if BTC red all altcoin must be red
Yeah and that makes the price movement of shit tokens become different compared with another token. People are seeing meme token as a place to make money or money generator caused by this. but this depends on how lucky you are.

Tokens with unusual increase for the last 24 hours are very high risk for me.
As you said, there may be people who are behind this pump so it can look better and possibly attract naive buyers.
Of course, people will look at the biggest gainers and will try to get a hold also.
But unfortunately, they are already buying at the peak and in no time, it will drop massively.
The same goes with meme tokens. Their market movement may be erratic and it is your luck if you get in and out at the right time.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: dunfida on March 01, 2022, 11:48:04 PM
fake volume can green the value of one coin. where when the market is red it's green itself, and goes up 100% or even more, that often happens with meme coins. not for real coins like LTC nad more , cos if BTC red all altcoin must be red
Not that an assured thing that everything would be on reds but it couldnt really be denied that Bitcoin is the main trend setter and if its goes down then most coins in the market would be pulled down too which is

something a very normal scenario or condition that do happen most of the time.Although there are coins which do basically being green despite of the market condition which neither those are organic pumps
or to those low cap coins which does have only small volume which do shows to make it looks green or someone who had bought on the dip.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Pelana vreo on March 02, 2022, 03:28:23 AM
https://coinmarketcap.com/gainers-losers/ I use this site and the tools available on poocoin, there is no increase from altcoins when BTC price drops, it's all just a pump and dump, you need to be careful with new altcoins like that.
Btw I would like to see a tool that can identify the LP of new coins on Dex exchange like CMC, we can see new Altcoins all the time. however I have not found such a tool.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Blowon on March 02, 2022, 03:44:09 AM

First off, how do you even find out about these coins?


Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?


Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  


Alright, I'll help you understand a little bit what I've understood. that is

- We used to use smart contracts. then with that we can get information from websites like poocoin. The data we get starts from liquidity locked terms, communities, and also real time charts to get accurate prices.

- You won't get those coins on CEX exchanges, nor will their hype follow the bitcoin trend. they can be found in swap dex like uniswap and pancakeswap.  understanding ethereum and metamask will be easier in the future, because everything about the coins you mentioned is based on the ethereum network and its similarities. and ethereum is very simple not difficult to understand.

- That's right, the trend in tokens created on the Ethereum and regular BNB networks already has its own community to create hype. because they are tokens with small trading volume they will not count bitcoins. in fact they are really controlled by the community.


Just a little understanding from me. I am also still learning here, understanding everything is indeed difficult but I think by learning the basics it will be easy to understand in the future.



Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: traderethereum on March 03, 2022, 02:32:39 AM
First, you can monitor the ANN of the coins or tokens in the Announcements section of this forum so you can see their respective websites and can ask questions directly to the dev or their team.
Second, you can look from CMC or CoinGecko to see which exchanges have those coins or tokens.
That's natural because the tokens are based on the ETH network so they are always tied to ETH, especially in price.
PancakeSwap is an exchange that has a large list of those tokens before they enter the major exchanges and you can use Trust wallet in addition to Metamask.
Third, almost all of those coins and tokens correlate with BTC, especially with the movement of BTC. If BTC moves, then those coins and tokens will move too but not all will go in the same direction as BTC.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: vanesha on March 03, 2022, 03:00:48 AM


When searching for information about the coin you are interested in, you are in addition to the rating Coinmarketcap.com you can also use Coingecko.com. There you will also find information where you can buy the coin you are interested in.

I'm sure it seems Coinecko and Coinmarketcap are not random to be listed on their website.
in that thread it seems to be more directed towards cheap and low quality coins, like

...But what about these altcoins like Silva Token, Doge Riseup, Nurifootball etc...

But don't worry, we already have a website to get information about such low quality tokens.
i used to use Poocoin because it can contain all token information as long as they have smart contract with BSC network.
Go directly to https://poocoin.app/ and enter the smart contart there.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Pandu Geddon on March 03, 2022, 03:07:42 AM
First, you can monitor the ANN of the coins or tokens in the Announcements section of this forum so you can see their respective websites and can ask questions directly to the dev or their team.
Second, you can look from CMC or CoinGecko to see which exchanges have those coins or tokens.
That's natural because the tokens are based on the ETH network so they are always tied to ETH, especially in price.
PancakeSwap is an exchange that has a large list of those tokens before they enter the major exchanges and you can use Trust wallet in addition to Metamask.
Third, almost all of those coins and tokens correlate with BTC, especially with the movement of BTC. If BTC moves, then those coins and tokens will move too but not all will go in the same direction as BTC.
because indeed the movement of BTC will create a new movement for altcoins. indeed not all altcoins will be affected by the trend made by BTC. because usually when a decline occurs, it's the tokens from the new project that get the pump instead. but situations like that only happen very quickly. immediately after the pump, they will return to the trend formed by BTC. it's all because of the dominance of BTC in the crypto market which is still high.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Gayong88 on March 03, 2022, 03:49:49 AM
In my opinion, the first point is correct looking at the first information on CMC for the coin/token to be reviewed. seems easy to see. Altcoin dominance goes up as you said, always following market trends and indications of rising because of Ethereum, Ethereum is the king of altcoins if the king rises below it also rises this is very reasonable when Ethereum has reached a certain price then crypto bookies increase other altcoins.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Republikcoin.com on March 03, 2022, 04:09:06 AM
I'm sure it seems Coinecko and Coinmarketcap are not random to be listed on their website.
in that thread it seems to be more directed towards cheap and low quality coins, like
Coinecko and Coinmarketcap have their own rules for listing everything on their sites, because they also don't want to litter their lists or lists with lots of dirty coins which generally have no use value or sale value in the market, so obviously it won't be arbitrary to agree on each and every one of them new tokens that do not meet the requirements to be listed in it.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: magneto on March 03, 2022, 05:41:12 AM
I've noticed that Cosmos has a tendency to hold strong in a bear market like we've seen.

It's probably because a lot of things route through Cosmos so it's always in demand, and there has been some exciting developments.

Though, the only true non-correlated cryptos is probably going to be stableassets that are pegged to gold or fiat. Everything in the crypto space is somewhat correlated on the way down.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: asyakashi on March 03, 2022, 07:04:08 AM
Look at the biggest gainers in the last day.  Shiba tron and Baby Squid Game. 


So do coins on pancakeswap just go up regardless of whether btc goes up or not?  I thought if btc drops big, literally the whole crypto market drops?  So these coins are not affected?


I believe because they are tokens with small-scale trading volume, of course they are not dependent on bitcoin.
They took full advantage of the event, then enlivened by community support where the community had bought cheaply from the start.
That event usually is, burning and listed in exchange is the most popular event that usually happens.
Such tokens are also only found on dexswap like pancakeswap, julswap etc, will not be found on CEX market like binance,
if they enter major exchanges they will immediately follow the price of btc.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Sikinkato on March 03, 2022, 08:49:41 AM
Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  [/b]
Not all altcoins’ price movements necessarily depend on Bitcoin. Some altcoins generate price changes by being manipulated.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: carlisle1 on March 03, 2022, 09:09:44 AM
fake volume can green the value of one coin. where when the market is red it's green itself, and goes up 100% or even more, that often happens with meme coins. not for real coins like LTC nad more , cos if BTC red all altcoin must be red
Not that an assured thing that everything would be on reds but it couldnt really be denied that Bitcoin is the main trend setter and if its goes down then most coins in the market would be pulled down too which is

something a very normal scenario or condition that do happen most of the time.Although there are coins which do basically being green despite of the market condition which neither those are organic pumps
or to those low cap coins which does have only small volume which do shows to make it looks green or someone who had bought on the dip.

There are some that independently moving up while the most are moving down. You mentioned those reasons and I do agree with some low volume

asset that have good community support can do an organic rise, with progress and usages investors are supporting the project and continue

to buy and hold, believing that there are many positive events that will move the coin and will bring decent to a huge amount of benefits.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: lenovop-70 on March 03, 2022, 02:40:03 PM
Most of the shitcoins are unrelated to the up and down of Bitcoin price so far, because there is a lot of manipulation there, the price is controlled by the big whale inside and they have a pump and dump schedule in line with their program. So, for me shitcoin is not healthy and is not a good investment field because of that.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: clarkt on March 03, 2022, 06:18:06 PM
I am yet to see altcoin that goes up when bitcoin and whole market of cryprocurrency is down. Most altcoin that temporarily rise when market is down are most likely been pumped or the excitement of new listing help the demand for such coin. Sooner or latter, every altcoin go down with the market sentiment! Bitcoin prices is important in determining the pace and growth of cryptocurrency, most altcoin are yet to decouples from it!


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 06, 2022, 12:08:14 AM
For me, the best thing in these cases is to go to Binance, do a good technical analysis of which coin is in order to find a good pump and dump, in Binance there are coins that are rising almost 30%, and these coins are the ones that have always existed and their way of life is pump and dump, for me the queen of these types of currency is Doge, but now many have come out, and these currencies have shown that they are improving, that is why I would not complicate myself, I I would go to that Exchange that is very safe and start looking for potential in the pump and dump coins.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 06, 2022, 12:40:35 AM
I am yet to see altcoin that goes up when bitcoin and whole market of cryprocurrency is down. Most altcoin that temporarily rise when market is down are most likely been pumped or the excitement of new listing help the demand for such coin. Sooner or latter, every altcoin go down with the market sentiment! Bitcoin prices is important in determining the pace and growth of cryptocurrency, most altcoin are yet to decouples from it!

There could be some, but those are way below in the list from the cmc.

So it means they are purely being used for p&d that's why there are no relation to bitcoin regardless if the price is going up and down.

I'm not new in the market but not that old, but I've seen this kind of movements. But it doesn't concern me because I know there is someone from behind manipulating the price.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: GreatArkansas on March 06, 2022, 12:49:32 AM
(.....)

First off, how do you even find out about these coins?


Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?


Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  

This is very difficult to spot. But if you are a risk-taker, you can spot this with shitcoins on a random chain like new altcoins that are published and scheduled to be listed on a huge exchanges, even how the market is dumped, this altcoin could possibly pump huge.

Second, I think what you mean here is Decentralized Exchange (DEX). If yes, I can say yes, these platforms could involved because most of altcoins now are starting on chains, like there are some Initial Dex Offering(IDO) you can participate to their token sale using DEXs and trade after the sale.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Bollexz1 on March 06, 2022, 07:23:05 AM
Like you said, coins at top 100 has the potentials to grow whenever btc goes uptrend because of their popularity which contributes to their good market cap. The ones that go down are mostly the meme coins which has no sensible use cases.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: vanesha on March 06, 2022, 08:28:03 AM


When searching for information about the coin you are interested in, you are in addition to the rating Coinmarketcap.com you can also use Coingecko.com. There you will also find information where you can buy the coin you are interested in.

I believe the information on coinmarketcap and Coinecko is only validated coins.
I have another solution if it's really new, but we want to know the token information.
This only applies to BSC network tokens for now, we can paste the smart contart address
at https://poocoin.app/ then we will get enough information from the smart contract.
To be listed on Coinmarketcap and Coinecko it seems that there are requirements that must be met first,
 so I'm sure new tokens will not be listed there quickly.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: judeafante on March 06, 2022, 12:09:29 PM
Like you said, coins at top 100 has the potentials to grow whenever btc goes uptrend because of their popularity which contributes to their good market cap. The ones that go down are mostly the meme coins which has no sensible use cases.

Coins that are on the top 100 did not land there for anything they have investors' support and they have proven their worth in the market, if you have a new coin that is struggling to move because of lack of volume and lack of development you have to think twice and move to another coin, some coins are not worth holding on, you can be patient but there should be a limit on how patient you are on your investment.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: shawon01 on March 06, 2022, 03:08:23 PM
Most of the coins here are set so far bitcoin price is not related to up and down because there are lots of prices are controlled by whales inside and they have a life and Rampurhat Shitla having problems with their program so it is not healthy for me and because of this it  Not a good investment I think it would be good to add something because a good amount of profit can be taken from Alert Coins if you can buy some talk coins


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Yurkov on March 06, 2022, 05:17:09 PM
Like you said, coins at top 100 has the potentials to grow whenever btc goes uptrend because of their popularity which contributes to their good market cap. The ones that go down are mostly the meme coins which has no sensible use cases.

Unfortunately, I completely disagree with you. If you think that the prices of top100 coins have nothing to do with the price of BTC, please list at least three that have continued opposite trend for a 2 weeks to the Bitcoin price. I doubt you would show any such coin. At the bear market, it happens that a coin has a trend opposite to the Bitcoin price, but it is always short-lived and usually after an important milestone has been announced.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Pasa32 on March 06, 2022, 06:03:18 PM
Those coins which do not follow the market can maybe meme coins or useless coins. Because the market depends on traders if coins are not following the market that means market traders are not interested in these coins. So It is my suggestion don't invest a penny in these coins.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: tvplus006 on March 09, 2022, 08:01:22 PM
...This only applies to BSC network tokens for now, we can paste the smart contart address
at https://poocoin.app/ then we will get enough information from the smart contract...

Obviously, you haven't fully learned about poocoin.app yet, which provides information not only about BSC. Look carefully at the menu, which is located in the upper left corner of the site and there you will see that you can switch to the Polygon (Matic) and KuChain (KCC) blockchains.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: bitkanu on March 09, 2022, 10:34:46 PM
these kind of altcoins that goes against the trend are dominated by some shitcoins coming from the fact that they just being manipulated by some big players with big market capital because simply put they have the resources in doing so. I have seen so many shit scam tokens like this pumped in a day but dumped in a few seconds. This can't be wrong as you can see that easily through CMC
regardless, if you are looking for potential coins that could go against the market trend you could try out altcoins like the ones that revolves around gaming since these kind of altcoins could go against the wave of the market trend by simply making some
attractive game events and airdrops that are in form of NFT and they could literally generate an NFT items from thin air. To be honest find the altcoins that can go against the trend was so difficult. The shit coin can do that caused by it was fully manipulated. there's no demand on it


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: YuleDoris on March 11, 2022, 01:06:47 PM
I would like to recommend you a new project with huge ambitions. I hope you have heard of RacewayX? The team is doing a great job and it is hard to ignore.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on March 22, 2022, 08:54:14 PM
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Are gaming coins really a good for an investment? I am a little bit curious if they are even worth the hold, since a lot of games just pretty much die out regardless of how great it was pre-, mid-, and even post-launch.
Sure it can be profitable in early launch, but from the games even popping up right now I had doubts that newer games could even get to see the sun.

I missed playing AAA games lol.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: n0trub on April 08, 2022, 12:10:03 AM
So btc prices and likewise altcoin prices has been going down.  As many notice altcoins follow btc directly pretty much.  But when you check on coinmarketcap, they always have a list of top


Trending
Biggest Earners
Recently Added



You can also see which coins are the biggest losers as well within the last 24 hour.



Now if the altcoin is like top 100 altcoin, it will pretty much follow how btc is going.  



But what about these altcoins like Silva Token, Doge Riseup, Nurifootball etc.




First off, how do you even find out about these coins?


Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?


Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  



Altcoins that surge when market is down are limited in number and they are harder to predict, it's a general idea that once BTC start going up every altcoins will follow at one point but not this coins, there is no reason to keep such coins I'd rather choose from the list of normal altcoins we all know.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: poodle63 on April 26, 2022, 09:30:38 PM
Those coins which do not follow the market can maybe meme coins or useless coins. Because the market depends on traders if coins are not following the market that means market traders are not interested in these coins. So It is my suggestion don't invest a penny in these coins.
Manipulated token/coin was exist in the market since a long time ago. These kind of coins are doing the reversal trend but it will be dumped back again once it was reaching the price target aka peak price. I would not be surprise if someone was interesting to invest in this kind of coin/token but the risk is so big to lose our money once the pump already ended. It will be dumped so hard to the bottom. It's hard for legit token to increase during the bearish trend as these will be following the bitcoin price action.
Only token with low liquidity that can increase a lot.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Lagduf on April 26, 2022, 10:32:57 PM
this more or less means that you’re looking for altcoin that goes against the principle of the market and guess it’s most certainly memecoin and shitcoins that does that, even there are some altcoins that have great fundamental that could go against the market trend but they are rare, like for example is axie infinity at the time it was the trend back then it basically goes against the market, but nowadays mostly it’s just some shitcoins and meme coins.
instead if you gonna be trying making some great return of investment just try investing in some altcoins that have big value reduction caused by the current trend


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: DeFiScale on April 26, 2022, 10:40:36 PM

Coins that are on the top 100 did not land there for anything they have investors' support and they have proven their worth in the market, if you have a new coin that is struggling to move because of lack of volume and lack of development you have to think twice and move to another coin, some coins are not worth holding on, you can be patient but there should be a limit on how patient you are on your investment.

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: jorjeIII on April 27, 2022, 10:08:42 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

Now a lot of different NFT collection appear but for the future development a lot depens how useful and popular is NFT collection.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: hashrateproducts on April 28, 2022, 04:29:37 AM
There are alot of alt coins that pumped when they crypto market is down. For instance, there was a time GMT pump and hits it's ATH price this year and the token did this when the whole market was red with candles sticks. Bitcoin is number one coin that controls the price actions of the Market and Ethereum moved alongside with Bitcoin. Whenever Bitcoin dips, Ethereum will also dips, if Bitcoins pumped, Ethereum will also pumped. The both coins work hand in hand. This year, the market have seen enough bearish actions than Bullish. Perhaps there are still coins that have made close to three times pump this year, they are APE, GMT and Doge.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Anonylz on April 28, 2022, 06:19:54 AM
Look at the biggest gainers in the last day.  Shiba tron and Baby Squid Game. 


So do coins on pancakeswap just go up regardless of whether btc goes up or not?  I thought if btc drops big, literally the whole crypto market drops?  So these coins are not affected?


Usually there are events that will trigger such price movement, maybe you should have look deeper into the projects to see if there was a major news happening or about to happen.
Any token/coin pumping without any valid reason is pure manipulation and you should be very careful because if you are not smart enough to know when to sell you will be left with bags of shitcoin to hold.
Top gainer on cmc while the whole market is red, check why, it is that simple.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: LaCucina on April 28, 2022, 08:38:35 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

Now a lot of different NFT collection appear but for the future development a lot depens how useful and popular is NFT collection.

People pays a lot attention to NFT because they grow in price even more then other cryptoassets.
But the price of NFT depends too much from conditions of cryptocurrency market too.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: TAMiller on April 29, 2022, 04:52:03 AM
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Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Lordhermes on April 29, 2022, 06:30:17 AM
There are still coins that pumped when the whole market was down. These are either memecoin or shitcoins. GMT have made a massive pumped twice this month. Bitcoin movement is just in a dormant position this year, the coin is just fluctuating, from $30,000.00 to $48,189.83. The Price actions is always within that range and one important thing is that Ethereum moves with the price actions of Bitcoin. One best thing to do this year is to bagged enough shitcoins and store them in your wallet, and always set it to TA (Take Profits), so that when you are not online, it will trigger the sell order. Alot of shitcoins will hit their ATH price this year and also, you have to be extremely careful not to liquidate your account.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
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Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: nikita2020 on April 29, 2022, 09:11:38 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

People pays a lot attention to NFT because they grow in price even more then other cryptoassets.
But the price of NFT depends too much from conditions of cryptocurrency market too.

Not all NFT grow in price. That is why it is necessary to carefully check all the NFT projects that appear on the market to find the most prospective ones.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Pirates_World_NFT on April 30, 2022, 05:43:30 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

Not all NFT grow in price. That is why it is necessary to carefully check all the NFT projects that appear on the market to find the most prospective ones.

It is very important to evaluate the potential of the coin.
Now many NFT collections overvalued and the price of NFT depends on the conditions of cryptocurrency market.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: savetheFORUM on April 30, 2022, 09:30:16 PM
There are still coins that pumped when the whole market was down. These are either memecoin or shitcoins. GMT have made a massive pumped twice this month. Bitcoin movement is just in a dormant position this year, the coin is just fluctuating, from $30,000.00 to $48,189.83. The Price actions is always within that range and one important thing is that Ethereum moves with the price actions of Bitcoin. One best thing to do this year is to bagged enough shitcoins and store them in your wallet, and always set it to TA (Take Profits), so that when you are not online, it will trigger the sell order. Alot of shitcoins will hit their ATH price this year and also, you have to be extremely careful not to liquidate your account.
The ones that move when bitcoin is dormant or going down usually are shitcoins because they are going up in a market that is down, which looks fake to people and 99% of the time they go back down as well. This could be due to pump and dumps as well, which hurts people when they hold too long and if it is unwise to hold a coin for too long then I do not know what to do.

I personally would prefer that I could invest into something that I would be fine with if I held it for 10 years, if it is suggested to get out as soon as it profits then there must be something wrong with it. That is my opinion of course and maybe I could be wrong about it as well.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: romanfrolovv on May 01, 2022, 06:38:20 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

It is very important to evaluate the potential of the coin.
Now many NFT collections overvalued and the price of NFT depends on the conditions of cryptocurrency market.

Usually when cryptocurrency market down all altcoins down too.
They may rise for a small period of time but they they down like all the market.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: roslinpl on May 01, 2022, 07:17:02 PM
When the bitcoin was reduced a lot due to the war effect and the economic crisis,some of the altcoin still pump and green.Some of the altcoin was stable with the price.BNB price was stable for now.It value was not increased a huge as like other altcoin.It was due to the factor of Binance usage was still increased.Their is some pump after a dump,kindly use it to cash out for the short period of time.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: TmHsHel on May 02, 2022, 06:26:58 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

Usually when cryptocurrency market down all altcoins down too.
They may rise for a small period of time but they they down like all the market.

The price of many altcoind depends to much from the conditions of cryptocurrency market.
When market rise the popularity of cryptocurrency increase.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: wheelz1200 on May 02, 2022, 06:39:32 PM
So btc prices and likewise altcoin prices has been going down.  As many notice altcoins follow btc directly pretty much.  But when you check on coinmarketcap, they always have a list of top


Trending
Biggest Earners
Recently Added



You can also see which coins are the biggest losers as well within the last 24 hour.



Now if the altcoin is like top 100 altcoin, it will pretty much follow how btc is going.  



But what about these altcoins like Silva Token, Doge Riseup, Nurifootball etc.




First off, how do you even find out about these coins?


Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?


Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  


Most all alts are tied to bitcoin.  Bitcoin bulls so does alts, bitcoin bears so does alts.  In terms of where do you find these, there is no steadfast rule.  Social media outlets you can find lots of info, but there is a ton of crud you have to soft through to grt to anything decent.  Most of it is just scams


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Artik_Finance on May 03, 2022, 09:21:17 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

The price of many altcoind depends to much from the conditions of cryptocurrency market.
When market rise the popularity of cryptocurrency increase.

Now many people believe that cryptocurrency market will continue to rise. The adoption of cryptocurrency assets grow together with the demand in cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Kasabus on May 03, 2022, 10:17:26 PM
shitcoins and memecoins hardly gets affected by the movement of bitcoin because they are just coins made for manipulation and their market has their own agenda of bullish and bearish because its getting controlled by someone with big capitals behind it.
but if you think that you could make quite the fortune out of these shitcoins and memecoins, maybe you could, but big chance you gonna losing your investment because as I already said, market being manipulated, always bring lose for anyone that gets in and try investing.
instead, it’s just better investing in a altcoin that’s already going down from bearish because its gonna be having bigger chance of recovering back its former valuation.

If there are coins that move up when bitcoin has stay low priced, its always those coins who are highly manipulated by big whales. Their prices will be hyped temporarily but when the hype is over, you will always witness them falling apart. If you can avoid these kind of coins as much as possible, then do it because it will only give you more losses than gains in the long run. Bitcoin is the one dominating the market, so you should always invest in bitcoin and its established altcoins, and investing in times of a bear market is the best way to start.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Vaculin on May 03, 2022, 11:27:49 PM
So btc prices and likewise altcoin prices has been going down.  As many notice altcoins follow btc directly pretty much.  But when you check on coinmarketcap, they always have a list of top


Trending
Biggest Earners
Recently Added



You can also see which coins are the biggest losers as well within the last 24 hour.



Now if the altcoin is like top 100 altcoin, it will pretty much follow how btc is going.  



But what about these altcoins like Silva Token, Doge Riseup, Nurifootball etc.




First off, how do you even find out about these coins?


Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?


Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  


Most all alts are tied to bitcoin.  Bitcoin bulls so does alts, bitcoin bears so does alts.  In terms of where do you find these, there is no steadfast rule.  Social media outlets you can find lots of info, but there is a ton of crud you have to soft through to grt to anything decent.  Most of it is just scams
Everything that is against the market will always look suspicious and end up scams. As there are a lot of shitcoins and meme coins that are hyped and become profitable even when the rest of the crypto coins are dropping. So we must take caution everytime we find new coins interesting to invest as they may end up being hyped and scams, and lose totally all what we have.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: brat111111 on May 04, 2022, 06:38:34 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

The price of many altcoind depends to much from the conditions of cryptocurrency market.
When market rise the popularity of cryptocurrency increase.

I do not think that there are some altcoins that grow constantly and for a long time when cryptocurrency market falls.
Usually it is a temporary grow and the price of altcoins depend on the price of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: cryptosru on May 05, 2022, 03:36:45 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

I do not think that there are some altcoins that grow constantly and for a long time when cryptocurrency market falls.
Usually it is a temporary grow and the price of altcoins depend on the price of Bitcoin.

Cryptocurrency is actively developing offering more opportunities for people.
Usually when Bitcoin rise many other altcoins rise too. But a lot also depends how useful is the project.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: cryptoserega on May 06, 2022, 07:50:57 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

Cryptocurrency is actively developing offering more opportunities for people.
Usually when Bitcoin rise many other altcoins rise too. But a lot also depends how useful is the project.

Now economic situation in the world is so unstable that many people do not know where to invest.
Inflation in the world is very high now, the stock market falls and the price for gold falls too.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: UdtaParinda1 on May 07, 2022, 07:14:41 PM
It's hard to predict which coin will reverse the btc price but we will see when it will happen, many tokens are going to reverse of the price of btc, Like Atom and Near could do that as they are arranging great airdrops, evmos, op,hop, and some other upcoming airdrops's token could take their native token upto the moon as eth is going to be on l2 soon like fully and will enhance the crypto activity, that's what i think. Still answer to your question, there will be many token


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: federalmoney_official on May 07, 2022, 09:41:14 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

Now economic situation in the world is so unstable that many people do not know where to invest.
Inflation in the world is very high now, the stock market falls and the price for gold falls too.

The demand in cryptocurrency continue to grow. The more people use cryptocurrency the more adoption of crypto assets.
That is why many people believe that cryptocurrency market will grow soon.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Fomo_Chronicles on May 08, 2022, 06:41:09 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

The demand in cryptocurrency continue to grow. The more people use cryptocurrency the more adoption of crypto assets.
That is why many people believe that cryptocurrency market will grow soon.

The fall of the market is to buy cryptocurrency for the best time.
After the fall will be a rise. It is necessary just to wait but during the fall not all the projects will be able to survive.
That is why it is necessary to carefully choose all the projects that appear on the market.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: kelonmusk on May 08, 2022, 07:50:28 PM
Well, not all altcoins price movements will always follow the bitcoin price movement itself. it's just that if you choose the top altcoins 1-15 then it's not so bad/risky when the btc market conditions are not supportive. sometimes there are also coins that survive, have a stable value, go up, even though the price of btc is correcting.
I hope you understand what I'm saying


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Garsipop on May 09, 2022, 01:50:19 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

The fall of the market is to buy cryptocurrency for the best time.
After the fall will be a rise. It is necessary just to wait but during the fall not all the projects will be able to survive.
That is why it is necessary to carefully choose all the projects that appear on the market.

Now market continue to fall and it is hard to say how long this fall will continue and when will be the deep of the market.
The fall may last a long time and it is hard to say when it will be deep of the market.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: jorjeIII on May 10, 2022, 03:36:07 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

Now market continue to fall and it is hard to say how long this fall will continue and when will be the deep of the market.
The fall may last a long time and it is hard to say when it will be deep of the market.

During the fall of the market only the best projects will be able to survive. Such projects that are really necessary for people.
That is why it is important to continue to develop the project even in the case when cryptocurrency market falls.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Liquid_Earth on May 11, 2022, 06:06:07 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

During the fall of the market only the best projects will be able to survive. Such projects that are really necessary for people.
That is why it is important to continue to develop the project even in the case when cryptocurrency market falls.

In spite of the fall of the market the adoption of cryptocurrency continue to grow because more and more people use crypto assets.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Lunafox on May 12, 2022, 01:25:07 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

In spite of the fall of the market the adoption of cryptocurrency continue to grow because more and more people use crypto assets.

Usually when market falls many people stop investing and sell their cryptocurrency assets.
Many people stop investing and sell their asstets.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: criptoalcoatl on May 12, 2022, 04:31:41 PM
Well, there’s no reason to wonder about the growing interest around $XET. After all, when Mzaalo in-App points became exchangeable for crypto, everyone's confidence in Xfinite couldn’t help but rise.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Poker_Faces on May 13, 2022, 07:19:42 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

Usually when market falls many people stop investing and sell their cryptocurrency assets.
Many people stop investing and sell their asstets.

People sell their crypto assets because they do not know how long the fall of the market will last.
In such situation they prefer to sell their cryptoassets not to lose money on investments during the fall of the market.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: SafeSpaceCrypto on May 14, 2022, 12:39:48 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

People sell their crypto assets because they do not know how long the fall of the market will last.
In such situation they prefer to sell their cryptoassets not to lose money on investments during the fall of the market.

Nobody knows how long will be a fall of the market that is why it is very difficult to say what projects will be able to survive during the fall of the market because everything looks every unpredictable.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: SDKmaster on May 15, 2022, 03:18:40 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

Nobody knows how long will be a fall of the market that is why it is very difficult to say what projects will be able to survive during the fall of the market because everything looks every unpredictable.

During the fall of the marekt many people lose their money. Also many people lost their jobs because unstable economic situation.
That is why they can not wait and sell their assets.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Shuna_Inuverse on May 16, 2022, 07:15:06 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

During the fall of the marekt many people lose their money. Also many people lost their jobs because unstable economic situation.
That is why they can not wait and sell their assets.

Fall of the market is the best time to buy the prospective tokens of new projects. But the problem is what projects are prospective and how to define such projects.
Also nobody knows how long the fall of the market will last.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Upgrade_Tools on May 17, 2022, 09:26:24 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

Fall of the market is the best time to buy the prospective tokens of new projects. But the problem is what projects are prospective and how to define such projects.
Also nobody knows how long the fall of the market will last.

The most important is to find the projects that will be able not only to survive during the fall of the market but will continue to develop and increase its ecosystem.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: verushka on May 18, 2022, 01:58:15 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

The most important is to find the projects that will be able not only to survive during the fall of the market but will continue to develop and increase its ecosystem.

During the fall of the market it is possible to buy the tokens of new and prospective projects for the best price to have the maximum profit from investment. But many people afraid to invest in the fall of the market because it is very risky.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Artik_Finance on May 19, 2022, 09:35:51 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

During the fall of the market it is possible to buy the tokens of new and prospective projects for the best price to have the maximum profit from investment. But many people afraid to invest in the fall of the market because it is very risky.

The most important during the fall of the market is to continue to develop the project and follow the roadmap.
Trust is necessary for every cryptocurrency project.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Abco on May 20, 2022, 05:49:30 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

The most important during the fall of the market is to continue to develop the project and follow the roadmap.
Trust is necessary for every cryptocurrency project.

During the fall of the market many investors stop investing and it is necessary to find enough funds for future development.
Now many projects are able to do this and stop development.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: brat111111 on May 21, 2022, 07:09:42 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

During the fall of the market many investors stop investing and it is necessary to find enough funds for future development.
Now many projects are able to do this and stop development.

During the fall of the market it is very difficult to develop the projects because there is not enough funding.
In such situation only the best projects will be able to survive.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Clime_Finance on May 22, 2022, 08:34:11 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

During the fall of the market it is very difficult to develop the projects because there is not enough funding.
In such situation only the best projects will be able to survive.

The most imprortant is to continue to develop the project during the fall of the market.
The fall is a good reason to buy the tokens of new and prospective projects for the best price to have maximum profit from investment.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: Coinmaster2.5 on May 23, 2022, 05:24:30 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

The most imprortant is to continue to develop the project during the fall of the market.
The fall is a good reason to buy the tokens of new and prospective projects for the best price to have maximum profit from investment.

Development is very important for every project. It is necessary to realize all planned ideas.
That is why it is necessary to check what have already done and monitor the news of the project.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: CryptoArena_Official on May 24, 2022, 02:10:18 PM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

Development is very important for every project. It is necessary to realize all planned ideas.
That is why it is necessary to check what have already done and monitor the news of the project.

Fall of the market is the most difficult time for cryptocurrency development.
But now it is much more difficult time because fall not only cryptocurrency market. All markets falls. And many people lose their money on investments even if they invested in stocks, shares or gold.
Everything is falling.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: cryptosru on May 25, 2022, 07:49:29 AM

A lot of depends how useful is the project and how it is popular and in demand. Now NFT very popular but and different NFT collections appear. For example https://twitter.com/Buakaw113/status/1517463376066396160 which offers NFT from the fighting ring to the digital world.

Fall of the market is the most difficult time for cryptocurrency development.
But now it is much more difficult time because fall not only cryptocurrency market. All markets falls. And many people lose their money on investments even if they invested in stocks, shares or gold.
Everything is falling.

At the same time fall of the market is the best time to buy the tokens of new and prospective projects for the best price.
But only experience traders are able to evaluate the future potential of the coin and buy the tokens of really useful and prospective projects that will be able to survive during the fall of the market.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on May 28, 2022, 02:28:23 PM
When this happens it is because obviously the currencies become a game of Pump and Dump, there are many who are dedicated to this type of trading but I think it is a very complicated and difficult game or trading, it is almost trying to guess which currency will rise and when they do, it is abrupt and almost 30% onwards, but it doesn't last long, because they are very square movements that occur at a given moment, those pump and dump are sometimes managed from telegram groups that are dedicated to this and they seek investors who give their money to make the movements and thus earn with them.


Title: Re: Altcoins That Go Up When Whole Crypto Market Goes Down?
Post by: carlfebz2 on August 11, 2022, 08:27:30 PM
When this happens it is because obviously the currencies become a game of Pump and Dump, there are many who are dedicated to this type of trading but I think it is a very complicated and difficult game or trading, it is almost trying to guess which currency will rise and when they do, it is abrupt and almost 30% onwards, but it doesn't last long, because they are very square movements that occur at a given moment, those pump and dump are sometimes managed from telegram groups that are dedicated to this and they seek investors who give their money to make the movements and thus earn with them.

Difficult type of trading and at the same time this is more riskier because you are playing on something which arent really totally having those potential or just simply be good for

pump and dump scheme.We do have different types of coins in the market which you could play and invest on long term and it would really be just common sense and you could
really able to make yourself aware in regarding with movements and stuffs.No one could ever predict on what would be the next movement when the market tends to be bearish since we know that whenever everything is on reds then expect that every coins or majority in the market would really be heading on the same path. Bitcoin is the main setter
and basing on the condition you would really see that it would be following most of the time.