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February 23, 2022, 07:50:23 PM
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So btc prices and likewise altcoin prices has been going down.  As many notice altcoins follow btc directly pretty much.  But when you check on coinmarketcap, they always have a list of top


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You can also see which coins are the biggest losers as well within the last 24 hour.



Now if the altcoin is like top 100 altcoin, it will pretty much follow how btc is going.  



But what about these altcoins like Silva Token, Doge Riseup, Nurifootball etc.




First off, how do you even find out about these coins?


Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?


Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  
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February 23, 2022, 09:44:27 PM
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...But what about these altcoins like Silva Token, Doge Riseup, Nurifootball etc...

When searching for information about the coin you are interested in, you are in addition to the rating Coinmarketcap.com you can also use Coingecko.com. There you will also find information where you can buy the coin you are interested in.

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February 23, 2022, 09:48:48 PM
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First off, how do you even find out about these coins?
They're likely being added and it's like really you're searching for them.

Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?
When it has already dumped, they can make their own pump if a whale pumps them. Most of those altcoins that you have said are tokens or coins that are being pumped and dumped by most of the traders of it on dexes. You can learn about them if you search for them.

Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  
Not all the time altcoins are relying on bitcoin's move.

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February 23, 2022, 10:07:48 PM
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Or shittoken/coin.

Come one mate, the only one reason why while other coin especially major asset is going down all of them and some random/uknown token is going up. That's a shittoken/coin, they have small liquidated/trading volume with gap order price book.

Off course is easy to be manipulated + jump price really high comparing major coin who really have a tight gap orderbook.

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February 23, 2022, 11:36:46 PM
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People are find them through various source like poocoin or bsc bot. I think that it's not even relevant to mention all of them jjust because they are still green when the market is dumping and why? it's caused by they are going even deeper than the market right now. Mentioning pump and dump coin as a coin that can survive during the bearish market was a wrong thing.
Don't you take a look at your silva token and how it was getting -50% at this time? that proves that pump and dump token will only be manipulated in a short time but the result will be even worst in long term.
I think that you must also learn from this.

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February 26, 2022, 05:41:22 AM
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Look at the biggest gainers in the last day.  Shiba tron and Baby Squid Game. 


So do coins on pancakeswap just go up regardless of whether btc goes up or not?  I thought if btc drops big, literally the whole crypto market drops?  So these coins are not affected?
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February 26, 2022, 07:42:52 AM
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So btc prices and likewise altcoin prices has been going down.  As many notice altcoins follow btc directly pretty much.  But when you check on coinmarketcap, they always have a list of top


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Click in one of those tokens and you will see that they are 100% shitcoins and tokens. See the volume of those coins. They are usually less than $10k. The coins are being pumped by the scammers before they get dumped. Like right now I see three coins over there MetaNFT, Creamefinance and Shibadoge. Based on their names, you should already know they are shitcoins made for scamming people. Clicked on the coins and guess what. The coins are being pumped and dumped.
Don't rely on CMCs "trending biggest earner and recently added" stats.  They are useless.

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February 26, 2022, 07:50:17 AM
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Look at the biggest gainers in the last day.  Shiba tron and Baby Squid Game. 
Shiba tron and baby squid game just scam token. The both got pumped so hard and this pump will not sustain for long term. You can see what will be happening with shiba tron and baby squid next week and im sure that these meme tokens will be dropping drastically. People are just pumping and dumping on pancake swap. Pancake swap was the house for so many pump and dump tokens.
So do coins on pancakeswap just go up regardless of whether btc goes up or not?  I thought if btc drops big, literally the whole crypto market drops?  So these coins are not affected?
Shit token on pancake swap didn't follow bitcoin but it was getting jumped due to the hype. These coins are not affected but it can drop even deeper or until the price reach zero value.



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February 26, 2022, 05:59:06 PM
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It showed over a million dollars in volume for shiba tron in volume on coinmarketcap.  So that is incorrect?
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February 26, 2022, 11:48:47 PM
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shitcoins and memecoins hardly gets affected by the movement of bitcoin because they are just coins made for manipulation and their market has their own agenda of bullish and bearish because its getting controlled by someone with big capitals behind it.
but if you think that you could make quite the fortune out of these shitcoins and memecoins, maybe you could, but big chance you gonna losing your investment because as I already said, market being manipulated, always bring lose for anyone that gets in and try investing.
instead, it’s just better investing in a altcoin that’s already going down from bearish because its gonna be having bigger chance of recovering back its former valuation.

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February 26, 2022, 11:59:28 PM
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It showed over a million dollars in volume for shiba tron in volume on coinmarketcap.  So that is incorrect?
It's obviously manipulated the price, they don't have an actual market cap which is easily manipulated by big players.
You should be careful on this if you're planning to invest because it's risky when you fall on this kind of trap, it's a hype token that is obviously are prone to scam.  Most meme coins are scam only manipulators was brought there on the top of the marketcap.

Choosing a potential coin that will profit but less risk should have this "Market Cap = Current Price x Circulating Supply".

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February 27, 2022, 03:36:34 AM
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It showed over a million dollars in volume for shiba tron in volume on coinmarketcap.  So that is incorrect?
That's fake volume. This token already rugpulled and it goes down -99%. https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/shiba-tron/

You must aware if almost all of tokens on pancake swap was scam token. that's proven that if the pump didn't matter as it will be going to the zero value. This token is dead. The same thing will be happening with another token as these tokens created by bunch of scammers.

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February 27, 2022, 04:55:33 AM
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But what about these altcoins like Silva Token, Doge Riseup, Nurifootball etc.
Never heard such names but obviously these are altcoin memecoin or shitcoins. Top 100 are major coins and tokens that has btc paired. Of course their movement is depend on the overall market. These tokens arent related much to many pairing and possibly only on chain that there have been liquidity. If those paired go down likely they are affected but not much on btc. Only those l1 that are related to btc are gonna get affected and due to this we could say that their price action could also be. But some arent due to hype and few market volatility or lack of trading volume.

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February 27, 2022, 05:57:22 AM
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Shit tokens have no correlation with bitcoin coz the shit tokens fully manipulated by the whale. The whale can pump or dump it anytime. It will not follow bitcoin even when bitcoin was bullish and there were so many shit tokens become zero. It's caused by the whales have been using the newbies who become late joiners as exit liquidity. That's pretty similar like ponzi scheme as the early tou get it and the more money you get when you are going out from there. So many people are hunting this ponzi scheme due to the possibility to make them all beeing rich guy in a night. The only problem is when you are being so late to take out yourself from the LP and then you will be ended by losing all of your money

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February 27, 2022, 09:20:51 AM
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I haven't seen a coin that's definitely in this condition, but it could be from any coin that was hype at the time, because when the hype is down even though the bitcoin market is down they will fly high. this has happened to SOL before, but I've never seen it again. because it rarely happens.
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February 27, 2022, 10:30:46 AM
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Altcoins that surge when market is down are limited in number and they are harder to predict, it's a general idea that once BTC start going up every altcoins will follow at one point but not this coins, there is no reason to keep such coins I'd rather choose from the list of normal altcoins we all know.

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February 27, 2022, 11:34:48 AM
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First off, how do you even find out about these coins?
Do you mean those coins you mention? Hm, I do not find out about that. You can check on CMC to find the info but you should visit their website to see more details.


Second, what exchanges can you even find these coins?  It seems almost all these altcoins are related to ETH.  Does it involved pancakeswap/metamask and things like that?   Is it easy to learn?
In CMC, you can find many things, including the exchanges for the coins. If the coin is not listed on CMC, you need to wait for some time or ask their team what exchange they used.

Third, these coins don't have any correlation to btc?  [/b]
I guess it is not but I do not know. But many altcoins follow where bitcoin moves as bitcoin lead them.

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February 27, 2022, 12:06:01 PM
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Mostly they are shitcoin, meaning regardless of bitcoin going up or down, they are going to be pump hard. Maybe it's just a coincidence that they've mooning when the price of bitcoin goes down, otherwise there are no correlation whatsoever. Some of the users have already explain where to find those, and if you are interested then good luck and hopefully you can make money out of it.

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February 27, 2022, 01:18:12 PM
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Coins that surge when the bitcoin price is down can't be trusted. That kind of coins their price are manipulated just to attract many investors. After they have gained many investors, the price will be dumped so hard.
Being so inquisitive about the surge of a project will make you invest wrongly. Don't be blown away easily by the price of top gainers, shitty coins can be on top gainers on CMC

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February 27, 2022, 01:46:45 PM
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These currencies have small market capacities. When there is a change in supply by a percentage such as 10 million dollars, you will find that the currency has increased by 100%, but due to the limited liquidity, it is difficult to liquidate a large amount, especially since the currency is listed on certain platforms. In short, this type of currency is divided into:

 - pumping and dumping coins: Whatever the reason for pumping, what happens will affect the price, the growth will be unhealthy, price is volatile and the collapse is rapid.
 - Increased demand: This can happen if there is a compelling reason, and therefore growth will be healthy and low in the long run

Therefore, it is difficult to make a profit from such an investment, do not let greed control you.

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