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I have moved the main topic to here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391471.0).

My bad that I did not think of a discussion topic before.

So if you have saying about any of these:
"Finally a member/full member/hero/legendary",
"xday/xmonth/xyear legendary",
"x is finally a member/full member/hero/legendary now",
"1k/2k/3k/..../nk merit club", "one/two/three/n milestones achieved",
"I am now member/full member/hero/legendary",
"From beginner to member/full member/hero/legendary in x days",
"Got my 1st/2nd/3rd/.../nth badge",
"celebrating 1year/2years/3years/.../n years",
"My/his/their contribution to the forum", "x men forum guide list" or anything like this.

Just share it in here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391471.0).

Can you tell us anything that is wrong about this? People are not sad about it and there is more room on Reputation board this can contain as long as the member is a reputable member on this forum.

I think if a member contribute good and ranked up, there is nothing bad for the person to create such a thread for himself.

Why did you think sharing it here is better than creating a different thread about it. It is as simple as, if I see you contributing good, I will merit your thread about your achievements on this forum.

It's been only a year for you in this community. I wish you were here since April 2018. The number of useless threads popped up since the merit system are just painful to see, I don't think all forum members even read it all. Spam does not mean you are making a one line post. A thousand words article could consider a spam if you do not provide any new idea there. Just spend half an hour and read all these self praising threads. After reading first few lines you feel bored, you find nothing useful. If one user can make over half a dozen threads just to talk about himself with the same talk again and again then 100 users make 600 and a 1000 users make 6000 new topics with no new idea no new thoughts just wall of texts. What's the point? Only to earn merit or do you have anything else in mind?

I can give you example of so many users who are earning merits but not doing these self praise type none-sense BS just to whore merit. Yes it is just a dirty way of whoring merit. Look at fillippone, LoyceV, o_e_l_e_o, El duderino_, DdmrDdmr, suchmoon, LFC_Bitcoin, pooya87, gmaxwell, JayJuanGee, The Pharmacist or even theymos and many others. Find me few topics from them that are garbage self praising, showing off with bold head. You will find one from LoyceV in his 7 long years in the community, this is acceptable when it's once in a moon. So, aren't they earning merit? Of course they are! But they are not whoring for merit.

On the other hand some users just popped up with accounts since the merit system started with topics like I did this, here is my guide, list of my doings, citing articles from the web even translating in some other language and trying to tell you that it's their creating. All just to fish merit. If this was one or two once a year then it would make sense but no! Almost every week you will see a self praising thread is popping up in reputation board, in the H&B you will find a translation copy almost every day, just wall of text with nothing new added in there.

It's annoying, it's redundant, it has not new idea behind it. It's like you are entering inventory information for the same product with just a new cover all the time. In fact after a day or two the topic is just buried under some other topics. After few days no one is finding it anymore.

Showing off should have a limit, should have a boundary to feel ashamed. When you are self celebrating after every 100 meters of running in a marathon then celebration become meaningless even if you win the marathon.

If you are doing this for merit then you are a merit whore. Merit is for your good contribution on the forum, not for a list of contributions. Deceiving merit and earning merit can not have same meaning.

I think having a thread like this is better because:
1. If you really want others to read the stories then they can find the stories in one place.

A single topic for each achievement is burying under other topics after couple of days. They can say that they are sharing experience to inspire others. When a topic is buried after few days, those who missed it are missing to get inspired.

2. Obviously it is reducing the redundancy. You don't need half a dozen topics from a single user to pitch you same product in a new packet all the time.

3. Obviously it's less annoying for old timers like us.

4. It helps not to play foul for merits. Stops merit whoring.

Consider this example: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2022 Q1) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.0)

This has 3751 reply and if I consider 70% of them indeed reported alt users then you are looking at 2625 posts. One topic simply helped the entire board to prevent creating 2625 new redundant topics but serving the purpose in more organized way.

Another example: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.0)
70% of 2656 replay is 1859. Imagine if we have 1859 more topics from different users just to report plagiarism.

We need to take steps to reduce intellectual spamming.

There's nothing particularly wrong with it, but I've always viewed such threads with a jaded eye.  For one thing, it gives me an icky feeling when I see someone tooting their own horn, and for another I think most of these "I ranked up!" threads are a form of merit-phishing (and they usually succeed, too).

Having said that, I know it isn't easy to rank up anymore and that members are proud of themselves when they finally achieve the next rank.  It usually takes a long time to move from, say, Full Member to Sr. Member and that's in addition to all the good posts one has to make in order to earn enough merits to get to that next rank.  So I do understand that people feel good and want to thank the community....but I can't read anyone's mind and I've seen way too many threads where it's obvious that the OP wants merits.

In any case, as far as this thread goes, I have a feeling that it's not going to be utilized the way OP wants it to.  But we'll see.

Individual's opinion will be divided and different about this, some people may not like to give merit to this kind of topic, but some people see the person that posted it as a good poster and they merit the person's ranking up thread because of that. I am very sure that this is not going to be utilized. Some people wished this could have been done in the past but nothing yet. This does not stop other members (good posters) that like to merit anyone they have seen to have contributed very well on this forum if they create such topic. It should not be too often, I do not see it too often, or probably this thread is indirectly focusing on one user to lessen this kind of thread.

You have a good point here but we assume good intentions unless otherwise proven, however too much of these thread will not be helpful.
Creating a single, self-moderating locked topic with My Achievements List title and updates it periodically is suitable for those who like to share their achievements.
If you see someone spreading spam in this way, you can ignore that person.

I have a very simple solution for shameless and annoying excessive self-praising: click Ignore (http://) :)

We don't need it, but said user does. As much as I appreciate your topic, I don't think it will change.

I agree 100% with this.

What I'm not so sure about the BitcoinGirl.Club initiative is that it will succeed. Some members may publish their achievements in that thread, but I'm sure some others will not.

Let's see for example that on this very board we have a recent example of a thread about plagiarism:

Another account spotted for plagiarism! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5390831.0)

when there is a thread specifically for that created by LoyceV in meta.

I guess creating your own thread instead of putting the achievements or plagiarism reports in another centralized one, tends to reap more merits, and somehow people know that. That's why I say that I doubt that the initiative will succeed.

https://ninjastic.space/post/59651450
User from ignore list.

https://ninjastic.space/post/59652984
Ninjastic for record only of the deleted posts.

How could you missed this man!
Anyway, I have edited the slags from there. You had a good point and thanks. It looks better now after editing.

If anyone is genuinely interested to share their excitements then I don't think they should not utilize this opportunity. With the individual threads everything buries after couple of days. A self praised topic shared two years ago is gone back in so many pages that it's almost not visible. But with this topic when someone needs inspiration they know that they are getting everything in one place and they can easily spend time on reading one after another.

No, the said user was the best example than everyone else. If you find anyone better than him who has more number of self praised topics (until today 26th/03/2022 17:45 GMT) then I will award you $100 or you will give me $50. Agree to take the bet?

Previously I had the idea of ​​creating a special thread that could be used by anyone who wanted to celebrate rankings: Celebrate your rank up here [Junior Member - Legendary] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381239.0) but it didn't seem to get much support so I had to bury that intention and lock the thread.

I just think that celebratory thread are good and so far such thread are allowed because they don't break the rules ^{[if not too much]} with free speech considerations in mind. I also have a celebratory thread, although it's currently locked and will moderate it periodically when I reach certain milestones to keep myself motivated and reminisce about my forum journey.

A better solution would be to move those threads to e.g. Off Topic, and IIRC I've reported a few as such but that never happened. There is nothing meta or "reputational" about it - I've been here 1000 days, look at me, LOOK AT ME!!!! - and even if massive amounts of merit have been earned it doesn't have anything to do with trading reputation or "discussion about the Bitcoin Forum". Personal achievement, yes, but everybody can see user's rank and merits on every post.

Having said that, I have posted a few times in the generic/aggregate threads like one here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5251894.0), these are fine IMO, and I guess OP's idea in theory would be fine but unlikely to eliminate individual bragging threads I think.

LOL.

It didn't take long for a thread to appear.

The senior member gang. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391571.0)

Facepalm.

I was also thinking before reading suchmoon's post that the only thing to do if these threads appear is to report them to see if moderation wants to move them but I also thought it would be unlikely.

I don't think we should get too pessimistic about this though. BitcoinGirl.Club's initiative is good and will concentrate in the thread at least part of those that would have been in individual threads if she had not created her thread, just as has happened with LoyceV's thread on plagiarism.

If the users themselves do not support self-praised themes, then the creators will quickly lose interest. After all, everyone has long understood why such topics are opened, to receive easy merits, nothing more.
And if we do not respond to those topics, let alone send merits, this tradition will end.
For example, there is already an open topic from
BitcoinGirl.Club, and when you open a new topic, just forward the author here. Maybe his vanity will fade a little if he does not see joyful applause.

Although yes, cheers, cheers, I've been on the forum for exactly 4 years. Shall we dance? ;D ;D ;D

While these self-congratulatory threads maybe even had honest intentions at the beginning to sort of inspire new members that is not impossible to rank up after merit system introduction, over the years it mutated into merit-fishing ego trip. Everyone is still free to create those, as others are free to ridicule those that create one for every minuscule feat they achieve here.


Monkey see, monkey do. He is only doing this because he saw others showering similar threads with merit, so imho they as equally to blame as that those are actually opening them.


We have an interesting situation that people here are rarely willing to call a spade a spade like OP did and instead just go with the flow and keep repeating what others are saying or doing. I've been on various forums for many years and never saw so many people patting each other on the back, unwilling to say what they really think and eventually creating herd mentality.

Anyway, good initiative, I hope it picks up.

I will continue to bump the self moderated topic when I get time. There could be many people who are not regular in Reputation board and they can easily miss it and continue like they used to. Keeping the topic at the top will create more chances to have it visible. We really need to give the community enough time to get used to with this idea. I hope they will co-operate too if they really have intention to share their exciting stories. And I do not think they will have lesser chance to get merit if the post is good enough and their contribution is appreciated. But for sure they will not be blamed for deceiving merit if they continue. We already have an example here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391471.msg59648056#msg59648056


Sometimes you need to give it enough time to make it a habit for others. It was a good initiative after all.

😂
Assuming he did not notice our discussion and the thread. I have suggested him to co-operate however he is free not too. Nothing is stopping him.

Depends 😉

Since I am regular again (I was not few weeks ago) and I am sure that I am available for the next few months, it does not take much time for me to maintain the ranking up thread. Let's hope it gets positive traction.

https://i.imgur.com/zfxTOsX.jpg

this is a very good thread, at least I see here a great chance to cry: "why the hell am I not legendary yet?... I'm crying...  :'( :'( :'(", I'm kidding. I'm not a legendary member yet but that doesn't bother me, I like this forum so I'm glad to be here. but I'm thinking:

why do people, when they rank up, have to create a thread talking about all the things they've done? It seems that here has become one of those places where famous people show up, no offense.

PS: I hope one day to edit this post to say that I am already legendary and I'm definitely not going to make a long post like it's a book telling everything I've done on this forum since the day I joined the forum ;D

I have seen you in gambling section many times. It's amazing to see you have over 13k posts and grinding since 2016. Your merit and activities are more than enough to be a Legendary but you are caught up in Legendary algorithm set by custom script for the forum, default SMF does not have it. Hope soon the script will trigger to promote you to Legendary.

You won't need to edit this post. You can share us in the dedicated thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391471.0). Good luck brother!

Edit: My memory LOL
Just realized you do not have enough merits for the Legendary rank.

So far, the one user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391571.0) who made his own achievement thread, hasn't received any Merit. Nobody has used your thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391430.0) yet for an achievement. But if someone does and earns Merit there, it might actually work.

I doubt it though: usually topic starters earn more Merit than people who respond to topics (maybe except for the tech boards). That's a huge motivation to open more topics.

I am somehow convinced that most of the merits easy given for such topics come from merit sources. it may be possible to see such statistics.

here I totally agree with BitcoinGirl.Club about the needlessness of opening such topics. although I would say that this is not the only merit hunting model here. For example in the beginners & help section, many topics with "useful tips" open, where the same phrases are mostly repeated.
In scam accusations, each scam website has its own separate topic. I think it is equally effective to keep one thread regularly updated, like the ones mentioned earlier for alts and plagiarism.

You are cursed or why didn't I have more than 38 sMerits :-P

https://i.imgflip.com/240xt2.jpg

it was already very close to me also going to create a thread with a super long post to boast that I arrived on this forum years ago, which contributes a lot to the forum, that I caught scammer X and Z, that I spent long sleepless nights reading many threads in order to have a good quality post, that I saw many battles from DT members, that I love the forum very much, and I would also read some books to be able to enrich the post.

Oh heavens I was close, very close to creating a legendary post. hahaha


what's the point of creating a post to say that I'm already a hero, legendary or senior member and then tell a long story about yourself? worse than when I look at the person's post history and what they just wrote I have the feeling that I'm looking at my country's politicians  ;D

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edit:

I am already a legendary member, I need to run and read many books to make a legendary post. hahaha

Just like the legendary rank, set an example for all newly minted ranks where and when to talk about yourself. Tell them about your progress in the BitcoinGirl.Club (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391430.0) topic. Modestly, without any self-praise, as it was here. I think this will be a motivation for everyone else, not to be ridiculed after creating a topic about yourself, or even get a negative tag, as yahoo62278j (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391571.msg59679435#msg59679435)  ;D intimidated.
If people do not hear calls not to create topics about themselves, you can simply show them how normal and experienced, and certainly, real legends operate.

Apart from your memory failed you, is there a situation where  someone will have sufficient activities like 1100+ and 1000+ merits and custom script algorithm will catch the user up in Hero?

Lol... Congratulations for your legendary rank. And thank you for your contribution to the bitcointalk community.
I am reading a book titled "How to earn merits without making quality posts"

Please, someone should help me and calculate how many days is left for me to become legendary  >:(

Most probably they will be Legendary not Hero for that stat.

The script applied only for Legendary ranking. While the amount of merit for a Legendary rank is 1000 but the activities in between 775 and 1030. Please have a look on the thread sticked on meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.0). In other words, if anyone have 1000 merits and they have minimum 775 activities then they can start counting for the legendary rank until it eventually happen.

There is a calculator created by a user. I do not know the link but hopefully someone else will find it for you.

Personally, I don't mind people making threads to praise about their achievements and also to say thanks for helping to achieve it. Though, sometimes I see such threads as attempt to hunt some extra merit. And some people is simply narcisists, to they need to brag about their achievements, get attention and satisfy themselves in such way.
It's not my cup of tea. I don't like to brag too much about my achievements and I don't really want to get too much attention. When I reach x number of merits or reach other milestone, I rather use already existing topic than making new one. Like I did when I turned Legendary:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187564.20

Replaying here since this is for discussion.

Yeah well I knew with proper looking after it will eventually pick up. It's good to see that users are accepting it and finding the thread useful. I am regularly bumping it with the hope that one day I will not even need to. Everyone will have the thread in mind and whenever they will need it they will jump in.

Good job mate, the thread is as of now keeping every rank up thread in a single place, that is tidy stuff and good to see; i am pretty sure somewhere along the line we would prolly still see quite a few users make their own individual rank up topics, but it wouldn't mean much or be a problem at all, as long as the majority of users who want to celebrate their rank up choose to post in your "announce your rank up thread", then everything is still fine. It would just be somewhat like the merit system designed to stop spam, which it has to a large extent, but can't completely eradicate it, well done mate.

Several users came to this thread on advice. They did not know about the existence of a single topic on which to talk about their achievements.
And you can also show an example if you see an open topic and just redirect the user here. If you look at the last unsubscribes here about their rank, then they get merits here more than in their individual topics. It is also a kind of motivation.
And we can support this thread by helping BitcoinGirl.Club

I try to send them single merit. I wish I was a merit source to give them more. But this is just an extra burden for me. If the merit sources subscribes the topic for notification and they regularly send merits to the posts then users will find some kind of incentives for them to follow the topic.

My source sMerit keeps piling up, it's at 300 200 now. I took the quick solution and "bumped" all posts that you Merited.

I like the idea of motivating users in this topic :) But it'll probably be abused at some point.

I would be even better if you and some other merit sources who are regular in reputation can have the thread subscribed and whenever get time check to send merit. About the abuse case, this is much easier to prevent now.

This guys should be happier now. This will definitely motivate others to follow the thread.

It's going to take about two-three years for one to reach Legendary. This list was compiled by  hilariousandco  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2766177.msg28250551#msg28250551)

To be honest, recently I have seen people not giving merits to the thread starter (if they think that thread stater motive is to earn merits only)  but giving merits to those who constructively reply to those threads.

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By the way, it's only a matter of few days when I can also contribute here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391471.0)  :)

I earned 10,000 merit. I think I'm supposed to make a post saying how amazing I am now. So, here goes:

I am amazing. Obviously.

My undying gratitude to Foxpup and all the Cycling Club Members. Couldn't have done it without you. And I wouldn't have wanted to, either. ;) Special thanks to Loyce for the cheeky push over the line at the end there.

You're welcome :) Now you're at Merit 10101 :D

You have crossed the 10k mark with additional 25 merits also so congratulations on being the first member to do so as was hoping you to be soon there and finally you are here :

https://i.ibb.co/cFWBC85/Screenshot-20220509-173354-01.jpg

I remember posting you merit record for 9300 merits just 47 days back and here you are with extraordinary record for 10k earned merits also.


Being member of foxpup cycling club you quads must have grown huge like this one i mentioned earlier also :


And we know that  ;D The breif and yet to the point self appraisal post on having this big achievement is not a small task  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/5n6z4jS.png


Finally, i would like to announce that I have upgraded to the prestigious Hero Member rank.  :)

It's Party time !!!

I was amazed and surprised at the same time. But it's not about the merit you get, which reaches more than 10000. But I am more amazed and ask about your posts which I must admit are always worthy of merit.
And I asked "Where did the quality post ideas come from, gentlemen? The cases are endless"

THIS is the right word for you "WOW AMAZING"

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:-[_{note: it is very difficult for me to get just one merit. because when I got a good post idea then I checked it turned out that someone had posted it first. oh shit}   

My dear o_e_l_e_o, congrats! You are amazing indeed!

Your post also reminded me that I became Legendary recently, so I have to say about myself also the I am amazing. I should think more about some sophisticated words to praise myself, but I'll steal your line though, as I'm lazy :)

I am amazing. Seriously.  ::)


I bow down to our Supreme Leader, which trusted me and made me one of her Lieutenants!

https://i.ibb.co/M5fLwm0/6YwSouP.jpg

Couldn't do it without all of you either! Special thanks to all gang members! We will always be a family, no matter that some are peevish!

https://i.ibb.co/YPqNHt4/msyBW2D.png

This dude may be an example for wolwoo  ;D