Announce your rank up, merit or any achievements - Discussion.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I have moved the main topic to here.

My bad that I did not think of a discussion topic before.

So if you have saying about any of these:
"Finally a member/full member/hero/legendary",
"xday/xmonth/xyear legendary",
"x is finally a member/full member/hero/legendary now",
"1k/2k/3k/..../nk merit club", "one/two/three/n milestones achieved",
"I am now member/full member/hero/legendary",
"From beginner to member/full member/hero/legendary in x days",
"Got my 1st/2nd/3rd/.../nth badge",
"celebrating 1year/2years/3years/.../n years",
"My/his/their contribution to the forum", "x men forum guide list" or anything like this.

Just share it in here.

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I think I had enough of these common topics like "Finally a member/full member/hero/legendary", "xday/xmonth/xyear legendary", "x is finally a member/full member/hero/legendary now", "1k/2k/3k/..../nk merit club", "one/two/three/n milestones achieved", "I am now member/full member/hero/legendary", "From beginner to member/full member/hero/legendary in x days", "Got my 1st/2nd/3rd/.../nth badge", "celebrating 1year/2years/3years/.../n years", "My/his/their contribution to the forum", "x men forum guide list" the list is way too long!

Can you tell us anything that is wrong about this? People are not sad about it and there is more room on Reputation board this can contain as long as the member is a reputable member on this forum.

The reputation board is already filled up with these kind of topics. Do we really want more to come? I think it's time for a common thread and let this thread do the job for you.

I think if a member contribute good and ranked up, there is nothing bad for the person to create such a thread for himself.

You ranked up?
Share your excitements here.

Why did you think sharing it here is better than creating a different thread about it. It is as simple as, if I see you contributing good, I will merit your thread about your achievements on this forum.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

It's been only a year for you in this community. I wish you were here since April 2018. The number of useless threads popped up since the merit system are just painful to see, I don't think all forum members even read it all. Spam does not mean you are making a one line post. A thousand words article could consider a spam if you do not provide any new idea there. Just spend half an hour and read all these self praising threads. After reading first few lines you feel bored, you find nothing useful. If one user can make over half a dozen threads just to talk about himself with the same talk again and again then 100 users make 600 and a 1000 users make 6000 new topics with no new idea no new thoughts just wall of texts. What's the point? Only to earn merit or do you have anything else in mind?

I can give you example of so many users who are earning merits but not doing these self praise type none-sense BS just to whore merit. Yes it is just a dirty way of whoring merit. Look at fillippone, LoyceV, o_e_l_e_o, El duderino_, DdmrDdmr, suchmoon, LFC_Bitcoin, pooya87, gmaxwell, JayJuanGee, The Pharmacist or even theymos and many others. Find me few topics from them that are garbage self praising, showing off with bold head. You will find one from LoyceV in his 7 long years in the community, this is acceptable when it's once in a moon. So, aren't they earning merit? Of course they are! But they are not whoring for merit.

On the other hand some users just popped up with accounts since the merit system started with topics like I did this, here is my guide, list of my doings, citing articles from the web even translating in some other language and trying to tell you that it's their creating. All just to fish merit. If this was one or two once a year then it would make sense but no! Almost every week you will see a self praising thread is popping up in reputation board, in the H&B you will find a translation copy almost every day, just wall of text with nothing new added in there.

Can you tell us anything that is wrong about this? People are not sad about it and there is more room on Reputation board this can contain as long as the member is a reputable member on this forum.

It's annoying, it's redundant, it has not new idea behind it. It's like you are entering inventory information for the same product with just a new cover all the time. In fact after a day or two the topic is just buried under some other topics. After few days no one is finding it anymore.

I think if a member contribute good and ranked up, there is nothing bad for the person to create such a thread for himself.

Showing off should have a limit, should have a boundary to feel ashamed. When you are self celebrating after every 100 meters of running in a marathon then celebration become meaningless even if you win the marathon.

Why did you think sharing it here is better than creating a different thread about it. It is as simple as, if I see you contributing good, I will merit your thread about your achievements on this forum.

If you are doing this for merit then you are a merit whore. Merit is for your good contribution on the forum, not for a list of contributions. Deceiving merit and earning merit can not have same meaning.

I think having a thread like this is better because:
1. If you really want others to read the stories then they can find the stories in one place.

A single topic for each achievement is burying under other topics after couple of days. They can say that they are sharing experience to inspire others. When a topic is buried after few days, those who missed it are missing to get inspired.

2. Obviously it is reducing the redundancy. You don't need half a dozen topics from a single user to pitch you same product in a new packet all the time.

3. Obviously it's less annoying for old timers like us.

4. It helps not to play foul for merits. Stops merit whoring.

Consider this example: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk III (2022 Q1)

This has 3751 reply and if I consider 70% of them indeed reported alt users then you are looking at 2625 posts. One topic simply helped the entire board to prevent creating 2625 new redundant topics but serving the purpose in more organized way.

Another example: Report plagiarism (copy/paste) here. Mods: please give temp or permban as needed
70% of 2656 replay is 1859. Imagine if we have 1859 more topics from different users just to report plagiarism.

We need to take steps to reduce intellectual spamming.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I think if a member contribute good and ranked up, there is nothing bad for the person to create such a thread for himself.

There's nothing particularly wrong with it, but I've always viewed such threads with a jaded eye.  For one thing, it gives me an icky feeling when I see someone tooting their own horn, and for another I think most of these "I ranked up!" threads are a form of merit-phishing (and they usually succeed, too).

Having said that, I know it isn't easy to rank up anymore and that members are proud of themselves when they finally achieve the next rank.  It usually takes a long time to move from, say, Full Member to Sr. Member and that's in addition to all the good posts one has to make in order to earn enough merits to get to that next rank.  So I do understand that people feel good and want to thank the community....but I can't read anyone's mind and I've seen way too many threads where it's obvious that the OP wants merits.

In any case, as far as this thread goes, I have a feeling that it's not going to be utilized the way OP wants it to.  But we'll see.

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In any case, as far as this thread goes, I have a feeling that it's not going to be utilized the way OP wants it to.  But we'll see.

Individual's opinion will be divided and different about this, some people may not like to give merit to this kind of topic, but some people see the person that posted it as a good poster and they merit the person's ranking up thread because of that. I am very sure that this is not going to be utilized. Some people wished this could have been done in the past but nothing yet. This does not stop other members (good posters) that like to merit anyone they have seen to have contributed very well on this forum if they create such topic. It should not be too often, I do not see it too often, or probably this thread is indirectly focusing on one user to lessen this kind of thread.

[hugeblack]

I can give you example of so many users who are earning merits but not doing these self praise type none-sense BS just to whore merit. Yes it is just a dirty way of whoring merit. Look at fillippone, LoyceV, o_e_l_e_o, El duderino_, DdmrDdmr, suchmoon, LFC_Bitcoin, pooya87, gmaxwell, JayJuanGee, The Pharmacist or even theymos and many others. Find me few topics from them that are garbage self praising, showing off with bold head.

You have a good point here but we assume good intentions unless otherwise proven, however too much of these thread will not be helpful.
Creating a single, self-moderating locked topic with My Achievements List title and updates it periodically is suitable for those who like to share their achievements.
If you see someone spreading spam in this way, you can ignore that person.

[LoyceV]

Showing off should have a limit, should have a boundary to feel ashamed.

I have a very simple solution for shameless and annoying excessive self-praising: click Ignore

You don't need half a dozen topics from a single user to pitch you same product in a new packet all the time.

We don't need it, but said user does. As much as I appreciate your topic, I don't think it will change.

[Poker Player]

There's nothing particularly wrong with it, but I've always viewed such threads with a jaded eye.  For one thing, it gives me an icky feeling when I see someone tooting their own horn, and for another I think most of these "I ranked up!" threads are a form of merit-phishing (and they usually succeed, too).

I agree 100% with this.

What I'm not so sure about the BitcoinGirl.Club initiative is that it will succeed. Some members may publish their achievements in that thread, but I'm sure some others will not.

Let's see for example that on this very board we have a recent example of a thread about plagiarism:

Another account spotted for plagiarism!

when there is a thread specifically for that created by LoyceV in meta.

I guess creating your own thread instead of putting the achievements or plagiarism reports in another centralized one, tends to reap more merits, and somehow people know that. That's why I say that I doubt that the initiative will succeed.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

As you can see, I am a Sr. member right now and I never had time to create a thread. To be honest, I was demotivated to create a thread when I see people create a thread to celebrate their rank up and some of us call him Merit Begger intentionally. So I gave up.

It's all right, do what you think is right and what you personally like, unless of course it violates the rules of the forum. And there will always be all sorts of provocateurs and whiners, there is no getting away from this. Never rely on the opinions of people who mean absolutely nothing to you, otherwise you will be dependent on their idiotic reaction and will be afraid to do what you see fit. If you want to tell about yourself and your successes on the forum, as dozens of other users do, feel free to write about it.

https://ninjastic.space/post/59651450
User from ignore list.

<snip>I think I had enough of these common topics like... <snip>

Anyone who genuinely wants to talk about their achievement on this forum would not be motivated to post here simply cause you have had enough of those kind of posts.
If you really want to create a thread to collate all member's personal achievements, you can do that without calling it a shitshow or whatnot. Some members are truly excited about their achievements on the forum.

https://ninjastic.space/post/59652984
Ninjastic for record only of the deleted posts.

How could you missed this man!

For discussion, please step into the topic, I will keep this topic clean. Achievements, self praising kind of post will only be kept here.

Anyway, I have edited the slags from there. You had a good point and thanks. It looks better now after editing.

In any case, as far as this thread goes, I have a feeling that it's not going to be utilized the way OP wants it to.  But we'll see.

If anyone is genuinely interested to share their excitements then I don't think they should not utilize this opportunity. With the individual threads everything buries after couple of days. A self praised topic shared two years ago is gone back in so many pages that it's almost not visible. But with this topic when someone needs inspiration they know that they are getting everything in one place and they can easily spend time on reading one after another.

probably this thread is indirectly focusing on one user to lessen this kind of thread.

No, the said user was the best example than everyone else. If you find anyone better than him who has more number of self praised topics (until today 26th/03/2022 17:45 GMT) then I will award you $100 or you will give me $50. Agree to take the bet?

[_BlackStar]

If anyone is genuinely interested to share their excitements then I don't think they should not utilize this opportunity. With the individual threads everything buries after couple of days. A self praised topic shared two years ago is gone back in so many pages that it's almost not visible. But with this topic when someone needs inspiration they know that they are getting everything in one place and they can easily spend time on reading one after another.

Previously I had the idea of ​​creating a special thread that could be used by anyone who wanted to celebrate rankings: Celebrate your rank up here [Junior Member - Legendary] but it didn't seem to get much support so I had to bury that intention and lock the thread.

I just think that celebratory thread are good and so far such thread are allowed because they don't break the rules ^{[if not too much]} with free speech considerations in mind. I also have a celebratory thread, although it's currently locked and will moderate it periodically when I reach certain milestones to keep myself motivated and reminisce about my forum journey.

[suchmoon]

Showing off should have a limit, should have a boundary to feel ashamed.

I have a very simple solution for shameless and annoying excessive self-praising: click Ignore

A better solution would be to move those threads to e.g. Off Topic, and IIRC I've reported a few as such but that never happened. There is nothing meta or "reputational" about it - I've been here 1000 days, look at me, LOOK AT ME!!!! - and even if massive amounts of merit have been earned it doesn't have anything to do with trading reputation or "discussion about the Bitcoin Forum". Personal achievement, yes, but everybody can see user's rank and merits on every post.

Having said that, I have posted a few times in the generic/aggregate threads like one here, these are fine IMO, and I guess OP's idea in theory would be fine but unlikely to eliminate individual bragging threads I think.

[Poker Player]

What I'm not so sure about the BitcoinGirl.Club initiative is that it will succeed. Some members may publish their achievements in that thread, but I'm sure some others will not.

...and I guess OP's idea in theory would be fine but unlikely to eliminate individual bragging threads I think.

LOL.

It didn't take long for a thread to appear.

The senior member gang.

Facepalm.

I was also thinking before reading suchmoon's post that the only thing to do if these threads appear is to report them to see if moderation wants to move them but I also thought it would be unlikely.

I don't think we should get too pessimistic about this though. BitcoinGirl.Club's initiative is good and will concentrate in the thread at least part of those that would have been in individual threads if she had not created her thread, just as has happened with LoyceV's thread on plagiarism.

[lovesmayfamilis]

If the users themselves do not support self-praised themes, then the creators will quickly lose interest. After all, everyone has long understood why such topics are opened, to receive easy merits, nothing more.
And if we do not respond to those topics, let alone send merits, this tradition will end.
For example, there is already an open topic from
BitcoinGirl.Club, and when you open a new topic, just forward the author here. Maybe his vanity will fade a little if he does not see joyful applause.

Although yes, cheers, cheers, I've been on the forum for exactly 4 years. Shall we dance?

[Rikafip]

I just think that celebratory thread are good and so far such thread are allowed because they don't break the rules ^{[if not too much]} with free speech considerations in mind.

While these self-congratulatory threads maybe even had honest intentions at the beginning to sort of inspire new members that is not impossible to rank up after merit system introduction, over the years it mutated into merit-fishing ego trip. Everyone is still free to create those, as others are free to ridicule those that create one for every minuscule feat they achieve here.

It didn't take long for a thread to appear.
The senior member gang.
Facepalm.

Monkey see, monkey do. He is only doing this because he saw others showering similar threads with merit, so imho they as equally to blame as that those are actually opening them.

And if we do not respond to those topics, let alone send merits, this tradition will end.

We have an interesting situation that people here are rarely willing to call a spade a spade like OP did and instead just go with the flow and keep repeating what others are saying or doing. I've been on various forums for many years and never saw so many people patting each other on the back, unwilling to say what they really think and eventually creating herd mentality.

Anyway, good initiative, I hope it picks up.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

I will continue to bump the self moderated topic when I get time. There could be many people who are not regular in Reputation board and they can easily miss it and continue like they used to. Keeping the topic at the top will create more chances to have it visible. We really need to give the community enough time to get used to with this idea. I hope they will co-operate too if they really have intention to share their exciting stories. And I do not think they will have lesser chance to get merit if the post is good enough and their contribution is appreciated. But for sure they will not be blamed for deceiving merit if they continue. We already have an example here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5391471.msg59648056#msg59648056

Previously I had the idea of ​​creating a special thread that could be used by anyone who wanted to celebrate rankings: Celebrate your rank up here [Junior Member - Legendary] but it didn't seem to get much support so I had to bury that intention and lock the thread.

Sometimes you need to give it enough time to make it a habit for others. It was a good initiative after all.

The senior member gang.

Facepalm.

😂
Assuming he did not notice our discussion and the thread. I have suggested him to co-operate however he is free not too. Nothing is stopping him.

Although yes, cheers, cheers, I've been on the forum for exactly 4 years. Shall we dance?

Depends 😉

Having said that, I have posted a few times in the generic/aggregate threads like one here, these are fine IMO, and I guess OP's idea in theory would be fine but unlikely to eliminate individual bragging threads I think.

Since I am regular again (I was not few weeks ago) and I am sure that I am available for the next few months, it does not take much time for me to maintain the ranking up thread. Let's hope it gets positive traction.

[Slow death]

this is a very good thread, at least I see here a great chance to cry: "why the hell am I not legendary yet?... I'm crying...  ", I'm kidding. I'm not a legendary member yet but that doesn't bother me, I like this forum so I'm glad to be here. but I'm thinking:

why do people, when they rank up, have to create a thread talking about all the things they've done? It seems that here has become one of those places where famous people show up, no offense.

PS: I hope one day to edit this post to say that I am already legendary and I'm definitely not going to make a long post like it's a book telling everything I've done on this forum since the day I joined the forum

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

PS: I hope one day to edit this post to say that I am already legendary and I'm definitely not going to make a long post like it's a book telling everything I've done on this forum since the day I joined the forum

I have seen you in gambling section many times. It's amazing to see you have over 13k posts and grinding since 2016. Your merit and activities are more than enough to be a Legendary but you are caught up in Legendary algorithm set by custom script for the forum, default SMF does not have it. Hope soon the script will trigger to promote you to Legendary.

You won't need to edit this post. You can share us in the dedicated thread. Good luck brother!

Edit: My memory LOL
Just realized you do not have enough merits for the Legendary rank.

[LoyceV]

So far, the one user who made his own achievement thread, hasn't received any Merit. Nobody has used your thread yet for an achievement. But if someone does and earns Merit there, it might actually work.

I doubt it though: usually topic starters earn more Merit than people who respond to topics (maybe except for the tech boards). That's a huge motivation to open more topics.

[examplens]

So far, the one user who made his own achievement thread, hasn't received any Merit. Nobody has used your thread yet for an achievement. But if someone does and earns Merit there, it might actually work.

I doubt it though: usually topic starters earn more Merit than people who respond to topics (maybe except for the tech boards). That's a huge motivation to open more topics.

I am somehow convinced that most of the merits easy given for such topics come from merit sources. it may be possible to see such statistics.

here I totally agree with BitcoinGirl.Club about the needlessness of opening such topics. although I would say that this is not the only merit hunting model here. For example in the beginners & help section, many topics with "useful tips" open, where the same phrases are mostly repeated.
In scam accusations, each scam website has its own separate topic. I think it is equally effective to keep one thread regularly updated, like the ones mentioned earlier for alts and plagiarism.

[AB de Royse777]

"why the hell am I not legendary yet?... I'm crying...  "

You are cursed or why didn't I have more than 38 sMerits :-P