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Just look at this screenshot and you know what I mean.

https://iili.io/hP0ft9.md.jpg (https://freeimage.host/i/hP0ft9)

No, not really. I don't know what you mean.

Can you explain? I see a simulator in which you supposedly would have made a lot of money if those were real bets, but apart from the fact that, although improbable, it is statistically possible, I don't know what you mean.

Extremely improbable series of events are not impossible, they happen.

1. You want to borrow $17,987,638.71 from someone in this forum?
2. You want to sell your strategy/script?

I know what you mean is I pointed above and it's just a calculation, there's no guarantee. If your strategy/script do 100% work, you can try it yourself with smaller amount and you can multiply your money again and again to become rich. If you can become rich from your strategy, why need to sell your strategy/script? Critical thinking guys...

Exactly what I was thinking. No matter what the strat is, it will bust eventually. There is no infinity printing method in gambling.

It looks to me that you've made an application based on some assumptions and you show that your application does follow your assumptions (and can print nice numbers too).
The problem is that I really think that your assumptions are not correct.

As said, if you want to monetize this application you're doing it wrong.
1. If the application is that good, why don't you gamble yourself with it and earn money?
2. Why you don't find some reputed members willing to test your app with their own money and review it? (And to make it clear: no, I don't want your app).

I hope you mean nothing than you want to use this to gamble yourself? Or what are you bringing up?

I go for the second option, he wants to sell his strategy script that may lead to nothing but losses.

I will not recommend him to take a loan because it is against the rules of gambling, not even about taking loan alone, but also about not using the amount you can not afford to lose. But I will also say that he should benefit from it himself, if selling it, only a fool will buy it.

The typical rouge way to sell a script and I think forum users are more intelligent not to fall for these kind of scams. Just beware to those who might be interested, this is all just some kind of clickbait and everything can be edited to look like it was profitable. Beware!

If your script are really work do double your money and it will always bring profit without any risk involved, I'd say there will no gambling site can survive until now since they're rekt and can't pay their operating expenses. Also what you need to know is many casinos prohibited of using third party script or bot, this will trigger their system and they might terminated your account for breaking their TOS.

I see a DiceBot just at the top and I see a simulation right at the projection on the screen and that tells me, those aren't real. It's just some likely scenario following some stipulated calculations that is likely not to agree with which ever casino you might be playing on or even did your simulation.

Haven't seen that script, I supposedly you would want to get some attention and possible get to sell it as Apocollapse and Yahoo62278 have rightly stated. To those who might be willing to fall into such unrealistic speculation, I've got 2 questions for you to ponder on.

1. What is your fall back strategy on your funds should the script go erong?
2. Screenshot isn't of any real funds attempt and win bet but a simulation so, why go live on what OP haven't gone live on?

Be cautious and save yourself some good, hard earned money!

If you're really good in your script and have experience, then why not double or triple your money? Think of it - they won't go down. You can play with no risk at all, as well as enjoy a lot of fun with this script.and But I wonder if there is a casino that gives you the opportunity to try out the script. ;)

well, there is a data missing. House Edge! It is considered into this equation?
Because if you made a "simple" martingale (double each time your bet) you can achieve such kind of result, but it's not working in a real life setting... a bot like this should be tested in a real dice game and then you know if it works or not...

He is indirectly advertising his Dice Bot apparently, I do think it's essential to note that having a starting balance 10,000 is not easy, if you mean dollars ofc, this is a pretty risky bet and also you need to make sure to sell it professionally, not randomly pop it up somewhere, at the same time if you think your bot is ready to do, so do some test runs with it as well, at the end you would be able to show people 'Proof' which also means that it might not come out according to your situation right here, really interested if you are going to make a real bet and Integrate it with a real site, then post some of the examples down here.

It's seuntjie's dicebot. It doesn't need any advertisement. Everybody who's been gambling since PrimeDice and JustDice days, knows about it  ;)

There's no strategy in Dice that always works. Probability combined with house edge is a powerful foe.
Don't be tempted by OP's screenshot  :D

OP, you need to understand that simulation is one thing, and reality is something entirely different. I do not know if your simulation takes the house edge into account, but even if it does, it is not a guarantee that the real bets will go the same way.

Anyway, if you are confident in your "strategy", then what is the problem? Take 10,000 sats to start with and turn it into 0.18 BTC in one go. Then take your 0.18 BTC and turn it into ~320 BTC in the second go. You will be a millionaire in no time!

Biomass you are so fake rich millionaire that I don't know why you are wasting time in this forum instead of spending all that fake money.
Your forum name suggest that you are a POOP Biomass so you can invest your money in that business  :D

Account recently woke up after being inactive, better stay away from dealing with member Biomass:
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=2072135

 ???

I'm curious and that's why I have to ask this question:

- You did the simulation and got these results (I suppose you think these results are fantastic), right, so why didn't you take your money, put it in your bot and then show us the results with real money? I'm really, really curious as to why you didn't do that? it doesn't make any sense for you to come and show us results of a simulation.

man we all know how this simulation data is not reliable data, you have already seen for example in the case of demo accounts for trading, right? try trading with demo account and then with real account, you will see that things are different

Lol, In Africa, i don't know about other African countries but in my country in particular, there are many native doctors, poor, retard, dirty, no good food, no good clothes, no money to live a good life, yet, passing through the streets, you see their posters littered every where on the walls, billboards, even flyers, they are advertising their business, they claim to have charms that can make one instantly rich, and when ever I come across all this, first thing that always come to my mind is "how can your charm make me instantly rich when you yourself barely feed due to lack of money, cant you make yourself rich first, as a prove that your charm works?"

So like everyone else have said, play your stuff yourself, make the millions and then come back to us with prove, then maybe , just maybe..... ;D_{we might believe you.}

That image doesn't say anything... We don't know the multiplier you are using for your simulation, and we don't know if your balance becomes negative at some point in the run.

And since it's a simulation we could say you had luck with your current seed, but if you change the seed and run the simulation again you will not get the same result.

And why the starting balance is $10k? if you start with $1 you would end with $1000, so, there is no reason to use such big number since it's a simulation.

You hit it he is enticing people here to buy his script or lend him money but he holds up and instead asks what we think, thinking that people will be interested in his bot, posting like this will not work we have so many offer like this on their bot that will generate hundreds of thousands and asking the community to lend him money.

But compared to others who have posted similar to this in the past, he is not asking directly and just checking if we are going to show interest in his bot.

Yes, what's the need of promoting the script. Op himself can make himself Super rich. No need of playing with huge bankroll. According to the script he can make a decent profit with few dollars. Slowly can multiply the profit made out of it. Maybe if he can prove himself the same through a casino, then it is perfect to promote his script. By then he won't do that???

If this is a simulation bot regarding with the dice i guess it is better to show up which language you use to come up with this at the same is some sort of code to think if this is a reliable or not having a piece of an image without context does give a huge vague to the community.

But why not move this thread to the gambling discussion section?

Some know what you mean, and the rest don't care about what you have to offer. But I think people should not be easily fooled by what is considered tempting. If one wants to gamble and earn multiples of profit, all you have to do is visit a casino and play as you wish. Gambling is personal which does not need to tie the offer of another party in your finances at the casino.

Too good to be true. You have to remember that we can simulate everything mate but you will never be able to have the same result in actual gaming.

I know you are trying to make an algorithm that can beat the house edge however, it's not possible in the long run. That's why it's called house-edge in the first place. If your tool is effective for you, it's best to just keep it to yourself.

The community is also not encouraging the use of random bots, scripts, algorithms, systems, and applications by anyone, anybody.

Theories and assumptions are nice on paper until they are proven to be working. I'm not saying that things like this couldn't happen, but in a real world scenario this is very far from happening unless you have extreme luck on your side. I can create a program, run biased algorithms, and let it print nice numbers too and post a screenshot of it in the forum to entice people to try it.

Why not use your script/bot for yourself in a real casino and let us see the results? Maybe you'll find a prospective buyer too.

Mostly who built scripts/bots choose to sell them instead of using permanently for themselves because they know there is no guarantee that they will always get a win or the percentage of win is greater than the loss. And more than that the seller knows that many casinos do not allow the use of bots in casinos if it is detected it will harm the user's account so for him selling it is more profitable.

Besides simple common sense dictates that there must be something wrong with the simulation instead of this being a successful example of a new strategy being born, after all if it was as simple as doing a simulation to beat a casino then something should be wrong with the casino itself, and in that case another player should have found that mistake long ago and make a lot of money, so the script probably has a flaw somewhere and the OP has not realized it yet.

Sorry for my late response because I was so busy outsise while the forum does not view good on my smartphone.

The bot I used was Seuntjie. I do not mean to sell anything nor borrwo money. I was just so excited with this simulation result. I previously posted a script and a novel strategy named DeepSum on our forum. Everything is just for fun, not for money. I am a university professor from Vietnam and I am not a gambler but ta this game very challenging and interesting entertainment.

The reason why I got a super profit this time is because I increase the base bet proportional to the balabce size. So it magnify by a geometric progression. I decreased the risk by reducing the profit rate. But by geometric progression, when it survives long enough the long run, an amazingly impossivle result came out.

10.000.000 bets equal running on Primedice for 10 months. Only simulation can do this.

This is the critical point here. Simulation doesn't necessarily imply real world observations which is why you shouldn't completely trust simulation data no matter how reliable it may seem.

There are proven ways to beat the house in the short-term and long-term practically, but they all have a catch(Card counting, Arbitrage betting, Roulette wheel bias etc).

In that case, it would have been better to include this post in your previous topic, where you published the script for your "novel" strategy, instead of creating a new topic with almost no information included. One would expect a university professor to know how to use an online forum effectively, right?

Simulations are unrealistic, you're a professor you should know better if you posted something like this you should also post your own opinion not asking for others opinion, so people doubted you for posting they thought you are on something bad like selling script or borrowing money, people did not see the point of you posting this, because you are not telling us anything, very unlikely for a professor, you left us all speculating without giving your own reason for posting this.

Statistics is something of really cool because it shows to you that something that is really easy will ruin you in the long term, and something of impossible can become possible in rare case. Simulator act only for maths low

but doesn't predicts also human behavior (you would continue a negative series of 15 bets?), so this stats doesn't work so good, don't think about it and play with your method, this is the best thing for you, and it will be

always.

One of the signs that it is unrealistic is the only 22 losing streak in a 10,000,000 bet.  Many dice players got more than that in just thousands of bets.  So with a real dice game, I think it will be more than 22 losing streaks.


Is this some kind of martingale strategy? Since you stated the bolded part, so I got to think that you are doing a martingale method on that simulation.

I totally agree, with simulations, we can get the result we want with the right seed, as an example let me show you how I get a x330,000 in less than 6k bets:


While OP sends its balance to x1000 in 10,000,000 bets, I send it to x3240 in 6000 bets. So, simulations don't work to predict how the rolls will come. It helps us to get an idea of what could happen if we have the right luck.

from these simulation you can get one of "infinite" possible scenario. probably you can win but probably you can lose!
both option are the same. I am a bit skeptical because there is house edge to be counted ! It's mathematical that in the long runs casino has the advantage to win even with the best strategy. With OP simulation there is a "larger" wallet + infinte bets.
I don't know if this is really possible in a real life setting ::)

OP, is this the topic you are talking about: Deepsum: a Novel Algorithm for Bitcoin Dice Roulette (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285720.0) ?
I noticed you posted that topic almost two years ago. What prompted you to publish this screenshot now? Doesn't that prove your script doesn't work? Because if the script worked, I doubt you would still be a university professor today.  ;D

The house edge will always play out its edge over the gambler, this simulation is very debatable because it's only a probability, it can happen and it will not play out, I have not used a stimulation before but all I know is a simulation without a house edge s not realistic, although there is one example that shows simulation helped him win gambling is still a luck-based game even if you have a larger wallet to try to beat the house.

It's the truth about gambling. It's typically characterised by luck and that is some high stake probability. No algorithm or simulation can assure you of a win. The both might have put a lot of constraints in check and determine all possible ways it could turn but somehow, you could end up loosing even up to a 100 triers. That's to tell you that, not every consideration would be met and you don't control the system.
Gambling is supposed to be a fair play game and should you be expecting the house to go fair with you, you as well have to understand that, there is no short cut to making predictions or having an edge over the house. Play, while staking what you could afford to loose and be hopeful.

That's just a visual and there's no guarantee that someone you want to try it will have exact numbers as projected, if that's what you mean to say from that screenshot.
Exactly, it's just a projection with numbers on how much you could get and what will be the possible result for those numbers but in actual, they're all going to change and not accurate as the one you've projected.

It is just a simulation that can be used for possible happen in a particular bet but it doesn't mean there's a higher chance it will happen. Also with the algorithm use with this there's a huge chance that will get a good outcome with the game but again it is gambling can be unpredictable and luck it is just an idea to use for having an insight into the possible game like the demo mode.

Dice bots don’t work. I know what you are trying to say. You think you found the way to make infinite money. The truth is just you were lucky. This sequence/algo you use won’t make you money every time you use it. You will lose sometimes too and in the long run you’ll lose everything because of the house edge. It is just maths.

Exactly taking loans for gambling purpose is way risky and not at all advised to anyone.Have seen many gamblers loose big amounts as they can't profit from it but have to repay the loan amount along with the interest so how can you repay it? So play with the amount of your own that you can loose.

I tried the real game yesterday with 0.1 BCH on Primedice.
It was too slow so I stopped.
Some of you were right, I strongly agreed. Simulation is different from a real game. However, really exciting.

Some people in this thread just posting without reading some accused the op of trying to scam or to sell or borrow money
Before they accuse they didn't even bother to read his past posts
Or anything.
I hope this forum bans signature spam it's just increased the spam and low quality content.
Also you pretending to be smart guys
Check his past posts from years ago.
Also here an old post at deep onion of his. .
https://deeponion.org/community/threads/deepsum-a-novel-algorithm-for-bitcoin-dice-roulette-safest-and-most-profitable.44592/
Since deeponion has no signature spam look at the discussions and replies there more better than here .

What op had shown us is something like a demo and I don't think a gambler would ever leaves his to grow like this without taking part of it out the system. This is not normal and I think we can't fall for this cheap result, I'm not even sure if that is a real result. It looks fake and no one should fall for this kind of trap. Since op has not further explanation to tell us, then let him forget it.

I think this is a typical example of the "house edge" catching up to you... after a lot of bets. People tend to look at the short-term gains when they run bots, but if you look at the accumulated results after a load of bets, you soon realize that you are actually not beating the house.

I have run similar "tests" like this ...and the end result is always the same ==> The house win!   Good luck... no strategy have worked for me ... no matter what I try.  ::)

Nice screenshot and very intriguing but what's the certainty in the stimulation so far cause we are talking about gambling here and this script you just pulled out can't be trusted as a roll over wins at different stakes. And secondly there's no backup explanation to everything in the screenshot for we are just allowed to think for ourselves based on what we seeing.
Guys I hope you don't fall for this cause if the OP really have this to be true he would probably have placed his live savings on it even before it got to us.
Like who don't wanna be rich?

I think Stimulation doesn't consider the 1or 2 % edge. In real casino that 1million bet he placed will have atleast 10000bet/unit or 20000bet/Unit loss.  Plus he increase bets (not martigale but after group of bets ..)  it's same just instead of increasing bet on every loss he increase the bet after a group of loss bets.
The biggest question here is what it there a series of  group bets losses . Wich very common since from every 100 bet we might loss 1 or 2 units.
So I call this strategy group bets martingale.
But it's interesting

As i see - this is just DeepSum algorithm. I`m not very strong in maths, but i think that it has the same problem as the Martingale algorithm - some time your money can run out and you still be losing. For simulation it shows nice results, but in real life you have some restricts, that can stop you before winning.

Well, it is because no script will give a 100% work to make profit. You can make a new strategy but its just that, it wont give you even a 90% chance to win in every bet. It's all about luck.
About OP, if its too good to be true, then it actually it is, i guess no one wil believe for such kind of advertisement for the that script you want to sell — if ever.

Of course it is so. But i think that this is a bad algorithm to be base for a strategy(but it is better than Martingale). Such strategy is the same as to bet on one number in a roulette - sometime this number win but it can be next roll or next year - you never can give any guarantee. The casino is based on a luck, no one strategy will help you to win - they only can help to decrease your loses.

Simulation is different from the real thing. It is only a possibility that it will work like what you wanted to see. Even your simulation results is also 50/50 chance of gaining profit. I don't recommend using such script to double or triple your money. Why would op sell it to other people to double, triple their prodit when using it when op can use it himself to double or triple his own money with the help of his script. I know that other script maker will say that he is only selling it to earn extra money and also to help other gamblers to gain profit too but that's just an excuse. I will believe this if I can see op will use it and show it live.

Simulation does consider the house edge.
Let me show you some more results from my simulation tests. I did not have time and patience to complete 10.000.000 bets. But when I stopped the game in the middle, it always yield positive like these following.

https://i.postimg.cc/8FCz5hzG/z3518178454475-05b7a3aa8114400a11892f512c9f8576.jpg (https://postimg.cc/8FCz5hzG)

https://i.postimg.cc/zLPXRVyg/z3518178456794-671746ed840365149a1d19e3eb8d9446.jpg (https://postimg.cc/zLPXRVyg)

https://i.postimg.cc/JDD73MXd/z3518178459345-e422c95990d20b4920a0b93b5f126abd.jpg (https://postimg.cc/JDD73MXd)

https://i.postimg.cc/cgpxX2M1/z3518178461580-506c32f555743109e49fb991fba259f3.jpg (https://postimg.cc/cgpxX2M1)

https://i.postimg.cc/XrsnTpcz/z3518178461839-157d295a5f60a2c34bb32577f10e8733.jpg (https://postimg.cc/XrsnTpcz)

https://i.postimg.cc/Mf1W45d7/z3518178462062-dab44c8b652573c84fff0096d74ba5ff.jpg (https://postimg.cc/Mf1W45d7)

If you think this is faked, I will make a livestream after I come back from travelling.
I will insert some Print commands to the script so that it will show factors in real time.
I have nothing related to Seuntjie Dicebot. But I have been using it for my entertainment since 2018.

https://bot.seuntjie.com/

FYR (my algorithm DeepSum) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285720.0

Since the days of 999dice, for which there were many bots and scripts, in my experience I can say that all of them eventually led to the loss of funds, so it's better not to spend your money on dubious scripts, but just spend it on getting pleasure from gambling in the hope of luck.

No matter how complicated your algo is, you simply cannot beat the house edge. If that was possible then everyone would use it and send every casino to bankruptcy. Since the casinos are still making money and staying strong, then the losers are those who take the opposite side of this trade. (Players)

The Op is creating hype for nothing.

Abeg frankly speaking, I can't really get or understand what you mean by presenting only figures and telling us that we understand what you mean. Put it in simple way for us to understand what it. Please say something about the figures so that we can judge the issue but as it is now. Mostly me I do not know what to say. But If I may tried. I will only say. The person played bet with a very big amount of money and finally won very little amount. And the image presented by the OP looks like a bet slip.
The question I will ask is that. What make the OP to post this bet slip here without explanation. Is it that someone Scammed him or the casino site that he played the game did not pay him? I also believe that it is another puzzle game the OP has created here for us to play

On the screens. It shows that his starting balance was 10k and then ended up with a final balance of 17m but I only don't know if what coin was that he was using it, maybe it was a coin with a cheap value because if that was a coin with a good value then a 17m pieces is going to be a huge win already.

Till now, it makes us wonder why they can sell such stuffs when in fact they can be able to earn an income with it already, I mean why can they just use it for their own good and have fun becoming a rich person in a short period of time? Than selling it and then having the risk for the method to get busted out, completely missing their opportunity.

This is madness because its hard to tell what are you trying to say here.
Is that your account? Are you trying to tell people about your winning strategy and invite them to use it as well? Well this is gambling and that huge money most probably also came from a huge capital. Better to be more specific next time so we can have a healthy conversation here, its hard to guess your point here.

^ You nailed it the truth.
Op has shown stimulate of dice bot which is dice bot will not work in the long run, probably at that time OP was very lucky and now claiming it here that the bot perfectly works fine. But see, OP did not come back after posting this and probably he/she prob himself that it was a coincidence which the luck was on his side.

What are you talking about ? You don't know what simulator means ?
Beside.  Who said he is selling ?
Man you made my day.

from what I understand, OP is advertising his Bot and from what I can see he's been doing it since 2020, he posted his bot's ANN thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285720.0

I saw that the bot download is free, but I don't realize what the OP is gaining by just creating a thread to advertise his service (whether bot or script or strategy) for free, but anyway I wouldn't recommend anyone to try this if you don't feel comfortable and wouldn't recommend that people spend a lot of money if they decide to test this

Please do I'm not a big fan of using a bot and people here will have a general idea of what you've posted the suspicion about your intention will vanish, the incomplete information on your post makes people think that you want money or that you are selling the script, glad that you are quick the answer all the questions and offered to create a video, you may end up helping many members here to fully understand how these bots work and help them to fully enjoy the game.

It is always so. It is possible that someone wins casino, but the same time it means that someone another - lose. This script can just help to minimize your own actions and to lose your money faster.
Every day we see new casinos, good or bad it doesn`t matter. This is means just one thing - they get profit from the gamblers.

After checking the link given in the post that you quote then we can see that this new strategy is nothing more but a betting progression, it is not as aggressive as martingale but at the end it is still does the same thing, so given enough tries this strategy should give you massive losses, people need to understand that unless you can change the expected value of each bet while you gamble then no amount of betting progressions will provide you with positive results.

Thank goodness you realize your mistakes and that it doesn't work the way you thought it to be,  however, I will advise you to focus on real game playing other than looking for a way to create a multiplier bot that will not work as you thought to work. Hope you will lock this thread now since you have realized your mistake to avoid turning into a mega thread with repetition of comments from members of the forum.

I think op need to tell us more about what he meant by posting something that looks like a result here without proper information about it. It looks like he uses bot for gambling and he had gained much excellent result from it. I know that most gambling platform do not permit the use of bot for gambling and with this result I think he is very lucky. My question is does he want us to buy his idea or what is his actual intension.

I have a very different perception of bots in casinos, I don't know if all casinos have bot detectors, but if so, would you risk burning your accounts for a bot? maybe I'm exaggerating a bit, but a bot would not guarantee to be able to evade the security of casinos with very high security or would it? In the event that a bot achieves a lot of profits, it would draw the user's attention, because it would not be normal.

What do we have here? Snake oil salesman trying to sell his gambling script to us? Come on guys, there was a rule of thumb in gambling: anyone try to sell you their script instead of using it and making quick bucks from the site then you have to realize his script is either outdated or unreliable. Might as well play on your own luck instead of using that kind of crappy script.

the winner dice script is here!
get it fast, make money before everyone else depletes casinos with this winning script in 2022:
https://satoshi-box.com/pay/CFoef5
https://i.imgur.com/H9vKzcy.png

For me, I see nothing but a Dicebot of which you have made over 1000000 amount of bets, started with $10,000 of which you now have a balance of $17,987,638.71 with a winning of $5,002,748 and a total lost of $4,997,251. So apart from these listed above, I see nothing more. But the balance here is totally huge, it could change one's life for good, I hope you don't lose this money, because just as you know, gambling is a thing of luck, you could win or lose.

Along with that I understood that the simulator is different from real-time gambling. When an user play with fake money, it used to bring big wins and the same won't happen when it is played with real money. I don't know whether this is coincidence or this is how the gambling platforms were developed.

With online casinos it is associated with technology. There are dice rolls by common people who just trick the people to have a try and further automatically users will go for real money spending.

I think that even if casino provably fair, they can use different winning percentage for freebets and for real games. In such way they can attract more gamblers who want to test casino with high winning percent but when the game is for real money - they don`t see such results. This is not fair but the fake money costs nothing and no one will answer for it.

Unless I missed something the OP did not tried to actually sell his script and was just showing his results, however at least to me there is something odd about it as he is registering more wins than losses on the image that he posted, and this does not seems to be possible to me as the housed edge over so many tries should allow the casino to win more often than not, so I think there must be something wrong with the script being tested by the OP.

Since the last post on the forum from OP was published more than a year ago, it seems that there were no people willing to buy this dubious offer, otherwise we would have already seen red flags, then I think that people have not been buying such applications for a long time.

Gambling script  ;D

They never last long, on the long run they end up bursting, I know some guys that spent thousands of dollars on gambling scripts, this is where the bursting story came from, they end up losing up before they realized that the script is no more in good shape.

If you are new here and reading through this thread, do ignore this script or any gambling scripts out there, they always end in tears.

   -   I don't know what you mean mate here with what you are showing? What would you like to convey to the community here on this forum platform?

And also based on the image is a dicebot, did you make it? Are you doing a service here to anyone who has an idea on this post mate? why OP don't you explain directly to the point?

It seems that no one will believe and want to buy this kind of offer because it has a bit of a big risk.
Isn't buying it just a waste of money, moreover the offers that are given are also not very profitable.
I think only stupid people are willing to spend their money to buy it even though it can last a little longer but in the future no one knows whether it will survive or not.

Lol
What a bitter truth and I initially don't want to believe I knew what the OP was talking about because I see no reason why someone will just postba screenshot and expect us to know what his talking about.
Maybe his strategy might be a working one and what is he wanting tye forum do about the strategy and if you really think you have a working strategy, why not take a loan or use your salary and make all the millions and billions from it.
Just a little advice OP, you have no reputation on the forum and you don't expect people to just buy your ideas for a strategy that doesn't have any guaranty.

Having the mentality of wanting the balance because you believe it. Can change someone's life is what leads many into falling into this kind of trap since the urge to own such a huge amount will push you into curiosity and wanting to know how possible this is.

-Note that dicebot or whatever scripts that make use of bots are against the casino T&C and if caught you may lose all your balance.

It seem like a typical and not really good attempt to generate hype. I guess the next think from the OP will be to sell the "method" or the "bot". Now, I am going to give the OP the benefit of the doubt. In case you really run that simulation in real conditions, you are most likely facing an statistical issue with any random number generator that in the long term may provide wrong results.

what do you mean by last a little longer?
chances are the OP is just telling us all here about a script he came up with and maybe used successfully himself.
so this has nothing to do with holding on a little longer.

It is strange but there are lots of men, who ready to buy such "products". I have 2 friends, they are long enough in cryptocurrencies and the same time knows a lot about cheating. But they are ready to buy strange "scripts" because they are cheap and it is not a problem to spend such a sum. They even don`t think that they can lose much more money using this script.

Strang indeed seeing folk ready to go that far to risk money on worthless scripts, any ways the money came from rewards of they cheating on the casino who's the scripts are used on.

-But what I am certain of is that, the scripts won't work for long before it gets caught by the casino., I have been looking out to see if the ops will make some more updates or make responses to comments here but I have not seen any replies from ops.

If we are talking about profit, then people will do anything even believing a street gossiper's prediction.  So it is not a surprise that some people will fall into a trap of buying a useless script or whatsoever.


Probably because he felt that it is not worth replying anymore since majority of the reply busted his plan of selling a script and refute the profitability of the script.

People who spend too much on purchasing useless scripts are those who want to make a profit without exerting the effort of exploring an effective strategy to win. We all want to make a profit but we don't have to do desperate moves. If casinos would catch us doing such a thing, we might only put our funds at risk so we have to be careful. There are plenty of ways to enjoy gambling without using scripts and we will only face consequences in the future if we will continue to cheat.

I don't think that he actually tried it and it was successful. All he has done is create it, or maybe didn't even do that, maybe he took that screenshot from somewhere and randomly posted it here since there is no extra information except a single line and the screenshot.

I believe a platform would immediately freeze or block an account if they find it involved in anything like using a script or something to maximize the winnings, that too to this extent. Whatever we see on that screenshot is all just too good to be true.

If indeed the script made by OP is successfully used alone then we will not know whether the script can be used in the long term.
And if the script he made has been successful for use by himself why is he offering his script for sale because no one knows whether the script can be useful for a long time until some time to come.
Until here do you still not understand what I mean?

It would be better for you to be able to give advice or advice to your friends that their actions could be very detrimental to them, even worse, your friend could lose all the money he has just because of this script that doesn't make sense.
If your friend continues to do this, then I'm sure it's not an advantage they get, but a loss that may not be able to be returned.

It's a meaningless screenshot of a simulator which itself is probably not properly randomized (because it is near impossible to do it efficiently on a computer). If the random number generator has any flaws, they will be amplified over so many iterations, but you can bet that the casinos put a lot more money into their random number generators to maintain accuracy, rather than your most likely free, piece of software. The underlying math is rather simple and doesn't need a simulator to tell you  the long term outcome. If you re-ran this simulator another 10,000 and were sure it was re-computing the odds each time, then that would be more interesting to see, but again it is likely to only highlight the flaws in this program's computations and nothing else.

and a gambler who uses the script will say how he got banned, but he knows that he is using it. They are just putting their accounts in danger. Usually, when they withdraw, their money gets held because of third-party scripts they've used. If it is already prohibited on the platform, we shouldn't use it. I know bots can ease our lives and sometimes exploit things, as I've been using them in my daily life for my work, but they should have been used for good.

It is so. They see such screenshots, think that even if it is fake - they just losing money for buying script. They see that the sum is small enough, and don`t think that it can be a virus.
I`m sure that all tries to cheat with casino can`t last long but the cheaters never stop. I saw several tries, now this ways of cheating are banned in all well-known casinos.

If we check the OP's post history you will see that he posted a similar pic but that time with some details included. In one of his post he said that he will also do a live streaming. If he truly did that then great, people here would be convinced more but we will still observe his game first if it runs well, we might try his strategy but if not then sorry.

The OP is only using a dicebot with a scripts loaded on it and it was legal on many sites in case you did not know yet. It was not a magical tool to give player a sure win or a really huge profit the longer they use it but maybe some gamblers think it was. Gambling owners can only laugh about them.

The results found look really unrealistic considering the proportion between maximum winning streak, loss streak, number of total bets and profit made. I don't know how he reached to that final conclusion, but I guess it's possible, considering it was done in a legit way, he had to reproduce the experiment a lot of times, until reaching the results desired, which during a real dice gambling session have tiny chances of happening.

Exactly what it looks like to me. And I am not even sure what exactly OP wants to do here. Does he expect someone to invest in him? Or does he perhaps use these posts for advertising this upcoming simulator?

Either way the math does not add up and his program is flawed, obviously.

He should post the code publicly if he wants to prove whatever he is trying to prove. Thats really the only way to prove to people he is on to something.

In either case, its complete nonsense.

Also simulation and real life are two different things. You don't exactly know what's behind the casino algorithm and you can't be sure that your script will produce the same results in a casino.
If someone was playing and winning big right before you and the casino script takes into account that someone broke their bank today, it's not going to allow you to do it again.

I suspect casinos special contingency plans that tend to balance things out and they won't allow multiple people to have a winning streak at the same time and you don't know who and when is achieving what results in the casino you're running your script.

Why's everyone talking about op wanting to sale off his strategy, I've had to repeatedly go back to the post to be sure I didn't miss out on anything and yes I didn't, so where are you guys seeing the wanting to sale off his strategy from???

Op, we understand the screenshot but not the message you're trying to pass, what's on your mind??

Well, we are not discussing here the possibility of selling the OP of this script, besides, he gave a link to the site from where it can be downloaded https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5403425.msg60433972#msg60433972 , here they discuss its very use for online casino games and what it can lead to.

I don't see anything mad with what was posted and the only madness I'm seeing is if anyone tries giving this a try.
I'm very sure there are no short cuts to gambling success and just as you said, and I agree that there is no need selling a strategy you found that's making millions and I had to think critically and of course, there is no need to sell.  And just as @yahoo already said, this strategy will eventually burst along the way and no matter how profitable it might seem so no need investing or buying something without any guaranty just because the seller claims it's going to give out millions.

The reason why everyone is thinking that he is wanting to sell the script is exactly why you asked the question at the end, what's in his mind while posting is still unknown, but everyone just assumes that it's his way of showing off his creation which he wants to sell off.

If that's not really what he wants to do, he should have clearly stated the purpose behind posting that screenshot. He could at least describe it and tell the readers what he wants them to see and what he thinks is the madness in it. He didn't make things clear, nor did he make a single reply after creating the thread.

yes I could compare your loses and win and I can see thag you have made several bets that is so interesting because that is where my eyes were settled first. You are really a good gambler for you to have made up to $1m where many if us have not played something similar to this kind of game. My question is that how are we going to be very sure that you owns that pic because so many things are happening these days .

That's probably what it will be.

These numbers and percentages made by a dry run can be good as marketing just like the typical thing that we see on products and services but not giving actual results.

These simulations are good thing to be based of if you've got no other reference but if it's too much and too good to be true, that's where the doubt starts.

because every casino has a tool to detect any fraud or suspicious activity that exists in a particular casino.
and on the other hand the casino also has a reliable team that can detect this kind of cheating and certainly won't last long.
therefore even though fraudsters will never stop, the casino security team is always increasing security in terms of detecting fraud of any type.
so I think scripting as OP said, is just a waste of time.

Do you mean strategy or script? I don't really get what you mean by strategy by op. All I know is that op posted his result without any explanation of what he really meant by posting it. I can see that all his winning are just like winning and losing. Although that is not the problem, because he had a good winning which is up to a million dollar which I tried to calculate the difference.

Actually I don't really understand what exactly is being your quote but reading or going through your post I think at that point is genuine and it is understandable for your composition so I believe that this is a welcome development but I don't have anything to say on the i-75 or after reading this is in time that I will know what to do

I don`t know about tools that casino use, but i think that it is true. The same time there are teams of security and testers, bounty programs for bug-hunting, etc. So it is possible to find some bug or possibility to cheat the casino but i don`t thing that it can be used for a long time. After that the gambler most times would be banned and all money would be frozen.

I'm not really sure if they have any tools for detecting that, but they surely have security and security supervisors and those who watch the moves and transactions, losses and wins, etc. of every single player, and if they find anything suspicious, that is where it becomes a problem for the gambler if he is using an unethical way to win more.

Scripts nowadays won't really work and even if a casino has a glitch, bug or something, a normal gambler can never be able to use that in their favor, and even if they do, they will get caught for even doing that and as soon as the provider gets to know about it, they account or funds will be frozen. So there is basically no point as you said.

It's like a dice-throwing simulator. But the stats are very strange here. The number of wins exceeds the number of losses insignificantly - it's less than 0.1%. It's impossible to get a big profit with such a low win percentage. I think OP has developed a dice roll simulator and now wants to brag about it. But this simulator is useless.

It seems that every casino must have a tool to detect fraud or other things that can be detrimental and have a bad impact on casinos, especially for casinos that are already big and well-known.
We can see that in a big casino they have a lot of customers and it will definitely be difficult for the team to be able to manually detect and monitor their movements one by one because the casino only has a much smaller number of team members compared to its customers.
Having a special tool installed on a casino website can help and make it easier for the team to be able to find and monitor all transaction activities that occur.
So here I agree with what @len01 said.

I think that security system include different tools. There are some program "cheaters detectors", some testers, a team that searching what cheats are using in other casino, etc.
But anyway i`m sure that we`ll see all the time how someone tries to cheat and how security tries to prevent cheating.

Yes, but after I observe, it seems that not all casinos have it all because we can see that there are several small casinos that have become victims of hacking and fraud.
That's why I said before that a big and well-known casino must have all of this security.
It is not easy for a small casino to have a team or sophisticated tools to deal with security and all criminal acts that can harm the casino because by having a team that can be relied on and has special security tools each casino must spend a large amount of money and of course small casinos do not maybe spending a big budget for it because their income and profits are not sufficient from what has to be spent.

Even if the cheaters try it in a small casino and they can win, they also may not be able to get the money because we know that small casinos don't have large balances on their sites and that can make it difficult for cheaters to get money from the casino. But if they try it in a big casino, they have to be careful because the big casinos must have predicted this would happen in their casino. They will tighten supervision on every member and investigate every account if they suspect it. Maybe only the security team can overcome this cheater problem and secure the casino from anything that can harm the casino.

You don't get me wrong first because not all small casinos only have little money in their bankroll.
There is also a small casino with a large amount of money there, although not as much as money stored in large and famous bankroll.
Their fraudsters or hackers launched the action in a large casino that stores a lot of money because there are also fraud and hackers who are unable to commit these criminal acts in large casinos so they prefer small casinos with an easier level of security to enter.

Are there any bot scripts that were (and are still) considered legitimate these days? If there are any, I am not aware of, please share :D
I think these kinds of scripts are not worth trying. I've read some articles before proving that almost all (if not all) dice bots are just created to scam. I remember one from those that say the bot was not giving back the money to the players, instead, the owner just accumulated the funds and then run away.

I also know that smaller casinos have a lot of money in their bankroll, but it's probably not a lot. But what has been happening so far is that people who play in casinos that are unknown and have no reputation get more fraud, especially when they want to withdraw their winnings. Meanwhile, fraudsters or hackers can always choose their target by looking for casinos that are starting to develop by looking for weaknesses and then they enter the casino and take the money. But those fraudsters and hackers would not try to commit crimes in big casinos if they did not have high skills and entered a more sophisticated system than other casinos.

Every business have to choose where they have to spend their money. I`m sure that there is no business that have enough money for everything on the start. In such situation the casino mostly spend money for attraction new gamblers, developing new services - they try their best to improve income. And if someone cheats - it usually not a serious problem this time - there are no big players and big money yet. The problems are easy to solve.

Having cheaters is nothing now and part of the job and part of the growing. Casinos are dealing with that kind of stuff all the time. It's nothing to worry about.

But still, it requires attention from the casino if someone or even more people are cheating because they want to use their opportunity to get a bonus from the new casino. But the casinos must have prepared a certain amount of capital to run their business, which is very big money because they have to plan to expand their casinos in many ways. But promotion is the most important thing a casino must do to attract lots of new gamblers or gamblers who usually play gambling at other casinos.

But it looks like people will try to win games from the casino and maybe even use simulators, as @OP pointed out. And that is natural because their goal is to win. But we shouldn't always believe in a simulator like that because the reality in a casino will be different from what we do through a simulator.

Not all the people using this strategy to get the bonus from the casino by using many accounts.Only few people try this was of method to get additional bonus.But in some casino,the withdrawal of bonus alone is not possible one.They will increase the level of withdrawal is more than a bonus amount.Some casino only give bonus after the deposit of some money.So the deposit person may try of few game for the website experience.This try will give a bulk profit or some loss for sure.So he should try the little amount of money for the website experience from the deposit money.Then even if he loss some funds ,it would not affect the person holding on the website.He can also use the bonus to have a website experience and withdraw funds after a profit or loss of small money.

It is good, until someone cheats you. I understand that the casino always work with such problems, but there is a difference between big named casino and small one that only trying to grew up. They have to choose how to spend money and i don`t think that the security is the main problem they want to decide.

this script makes 25% in 1 hour
https://i.imgur.com/Xx3bfBK.png

Trust me, friends, that casinos must have their own way of being able to detect and avoid fraudulent acts committed by their customers so they can get more bonuses that casinos provide.
Maybe for now there are only a few gamblers who want to commit fraud like that because casinos always provide bonuses that are quite attractive but with conditions that are not easy either so those who are going to commit fraud will definitely think twice about doing it.
Every casino business owner must have prepared all the aspects needed before building a casino business such as preparing large amounts of money for the continuation of the casino business and preparing several teams that can be trusted and responsible.
Promotions are indeed very important, but not all promotions can make a casino develop into an established casino because if you only rely on promotions, you will definitely be able to lose to other casinos out there.

Do you think there was a legit bot script? I doubt it, no one will give you a way to make money when they can maximize it especially if there's no risk and easy to make money. What @OP just show to us is only calculation, most of the time there's a big difference between expectation and realization because not all thing will come true like our expectation.

Based on the script we need to bet for 10,000,000 times, what if the casino flagged our account since we're keep gamble for 24/7 and the casino confiscate our funds? :D

The image shared by you on the first post on this thread isn't explaining anything clearly.
Also, the comments here by the users aren't much help.
So please make it more specific for a better understanding.

Anyone that would wanna fall for this script is only but shooting himself in the leg as these figures are punched in in each boxes based on whatever strategy OP may have in mind  are too good to be true and not probable as far as reality of gambling is concerned. In the first place it's all a utopian expectation  to think such gambling pattern will be feasible except that this is only but a fixed stimulation bot game.

Actually you can have a good understanding if you really go deep into all the feedback given by the users in this thread.
Try to read all the feedback from the first page to the last before you can make such assumptions.
Maybe the OP can't give any clearer specifics but there is plenty of feedback available to be able to get things going. I see you have been active in the gambling section for quite a while but why are you still confused about all the important points contained in this thread.

Yes, I totally agree with you on this point of yours, because it's highly preposterous to have seen this, and I think it would have been more convincing had O.P shown his/her real-time gambling betting history to back up this bot that it actually works, and not just a mere simulation as shown above, which I'm sure people on this forum are wiser to fall for such scamming strategy.