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February 27, 2023, 10:19:54 PM |
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It is strange but there are lots of men, who ready to buy such "products". I have 2 friends, they are long enough in cryptocurrencies and the same time knows a lot about cheating. But they are ready to buy strange "scripts" because they are cheap and it is not a problem to spend such a sum. They even don`t think that they can lose much more money using this script.
Strang indeed seeing folk ready to go that far to risk money on worthless scripts, any ways the money came from rewards of they cheating on the casino who's the scripts are used on. -But what I am certain of is that, the scripts won't work for long before it gets caught by the casino., I have been looking out to see if the ops will make some more updates or make responses to comments here but I have not seen any replies from ops. It is so. They see such screenshots, think that even if it is fake - they just losing money for buying script. They see that the sum is small enough, and don`t think that it can be a virus. I`m sure that all tries to cheat with casino can`t last long but the cheaters never stop. I saw several tries, now this ways of cheating are banned in all well-known casinos. because every casino has a tool to detect any fraud or suspicious activity that exists in a particular casino. and on the other hand the casino also has a reliable team that can detect this kind of cheating and certainly won't last long. therefore even though fraudsters will never stop, the casino security team is always increasing security in terms of detecting fraud of any type. so I think scripting as OP said, is just a waste of time.
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February 27, 2023, 10:28:28 PM |
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Why's everyone talking about op wanting to sale off his strategy, I've had to repeatedly go back to the post to be sure I didn't miss out on anything and yes I didn't, so where are you guys seeing the wanting to sale off his strategy from???
Op, we understand the screenshot but not the message you're trying to pass, what's on your mind??
Do you mean strategy or script? I don't really get what you mean by strategy by op. All I know is that op posted his result without any explanation of what he really meant by posting it. I can see that all his winning are just like winning and losing. Although that is not the problem, because he had a good winning which is up to a million dollar which I tried to calculate the difference.
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February 27, 2023, 11:16:35 PM |
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Why's everyone talking about op wanting to sale off his strategy, I've had to repeatedly go back to the post to be sure I didn't miss out on anything and yes I didn't, so where are you guys seeing the wanting to sale off his strategy from???
Op, we understand the screenshot but not the message you're trying to pass, what's on your mind??
Do you mean strategy or script? I don't really get what you mean by strategy by op. All I know is that op posted his result without any explanation of what he really meant by posting it. I can see that all his winning are just like winning and losing. Although that is not the problem, because he had a good winning which is up to a million dollar which I tried to calculate the difference. Actually I don't really understand what exactly is being your quote but reading or going through your post I think at that point is genuine and it is understandable for your composition so I believe that this is a welcome development but I don't have anything to say on the i-75 or after reading this is in time that I will know what to do
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February 28, 2023, 07:56:16 AM |
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It is so. They see such screenshots, think that even if it is fake - they just losing money for buying script. They see that the sum is small enough, and don`t think that it can be a virus. I`m sure that all tries to cheat with casino can`t last long but the cheaters never stop. I saw several tries, now this ways of cheating are banned in all well-known casinos.
because every casino has a tool to detect any fraud or suspicious activity that exists in a particular casino. and on the other hand the casino also has a reliable team that can detect this kind of cheating and certainly won't last long. therefore even though fraudsters will never stop, the casino security team is always increasing security in terms of detecting fraud of any type. so I think scripting as OP said, is just a waste of time. I don`t know about tools that casino use, but i think that it is true. The same time there are teams of security and testers, bounty programs for bug-hunting, etc. So it is possible to find some bug or possibility to cheat the casino but i don`t thing that it can be used for a long time. After that the gambler most times would be banned and all money would be frozen.
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February 28, 2023, 08:15:29 PM |
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because every casino has a tool to detect any fraud or suspicious activity that exists in a particular casino. and on the other hand the casino also has a reliable team that can detect this kind of cheating and certainly won't last long. therefore even though fraudsters will never stop, the casino security team is always increasing security in terms of detecting fraud of any type. so I think scripting as OP said, is just a waste of time.
I'm not really sure if they have any tools for detecting that, but they surely have security and security supervisors and those who watch the moves and transactions, losses and wins, etc. of every single player, and if they find anything suspicious, that is where it becomes a problem for the gambler if he is using an unethical way to win more. Scripts nowadays won't really work and even if a casino has a glitch, bug or something, a normal gambler can never be able to use that in their favor, and even if they do, they will get caught for even doing that and as soon as the provider gets to know about it, they account or funds will be frozen. So there is basically no point as you said.
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March 01, 2023, 07:18:38 PM |
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Just look at this screenshot and you know what I mean. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fiili.io%2FhP0ft9.md.jpg&t=665&c=GfeUHKy_17F_yA) It's like a dice-throwing simulator. But the stats are very strange here. The number of wins exceeds the number of losses insignificantly - it's less than 0.1%. It's impossible to get a big profit with such a low win percentage. I think OP has developed a dice roll simulator and now wants to brag about it. But this simulator is useless.
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March 04, 2023, 02:47:30 AM |
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I'm not really sure if they have any tools for detecting that, but they surely have security and security supervisors and those who watch the moves and transactions, losses and wins, etc. of every single player, and if they find anything suspicious, that is where it becomes a problem for the gambler if he is using an unethical way to win more.
It seems that every casino must have a tool to detect fraud or other things that can be detrimental and have a bad impact on casinos, especially for casinos that are already big and well-known. We can see that in a big casino they have a lot of customers and it will definitely be difficult for the team to be able to manually detect and monitor their movements one by one because the casino only has a much smaller number of team members compared to its customers. Having a special tool installed on a casino website can help and make it easier for the team to be able to find and monitor all transaction activities that occur. So here I agree with what @len01 said.
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March 05, 2023, 08:52:19 AM |
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I'm not really sure if they have any tools for detecting that, but they surely have security and security supervisors and those who watch the moves and transactions, losses and wins, etc. of every single player, and if they find anything suspicious, that is where it becomes a problem for the gambler if he is using an unethical way to win more.
It seems that every casino must have a tool to detect fraud or other things that can be detrimental and have a bad impact on casinos, especially for casinos that are already big and well-known. We can see that in a big casino they have a lot of customers and it will definitely be difficult for the team to be able to manually detect and monitor their movements one by one because the casino only has a much smaller number of team members compared to its customers. Having a special tool installed on a casino website can help and make it easier for the team to be able to find and monitor all transaction activities that occur. So here I agree with what @len01 said. I think that security system include different tools. There are some program "cheaters detectors", some testers, a team that searching what cheats are using in other casino, etc. But anyway i`m sure that we`ll see all the time how someone tries to cheat and how security tries to prevent cheating.
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March 05, 2023, 10:48:11 AM |
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I'm not really sure if they have any tools for detecting that, but they surely have security and security supervisors and those who watch the moves and transactions, losses and wins, etc. of every single player, and if they find anything suspicious, that is where it becomes a problem for the gambler if he is using an unethical way to win more.
It seems that every casino must have a tool to detect fraud or other things that can be detrimental and have a bad impact on casinos, especially for casinos that are already big and well-known. We can see that in a big casino they have a lot of customers and it will definitely be difficult for the team to be able to manually detect and monitor their movements one by one because the casino only has a much smaller number of team members compared to its customers. Having a special tool installed on a casino website can help and make it easier for the team to be able to find and monitor all transaction activities that occur. So here I agree with what @len01 said. I think that security system include different tools. There are some program "cheaters detectors", some testers, a team that searching what cheats are using in other casino, etc. But anyway i`m sure that we`ll see all the time how someone tries to cheat and how security tries to prevent cheating. Yes, but after I observe, it seems that not all casinos have it all because we can see that there are several small casinos that have become victims of hacking and fraud. That's why I said before that a big and well-known casino must have all of this security. It is not easy for a small casino to have a team or sophisticated tools to deal with security and all criminal acts that can harm the casino because by having a team that can be relied on and has special security tools each casino must spend a large amount of money and of course small casinos do not maybe spending a big budget for it because their income and profits are not sufficient from what has to be spent.
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March 05, 2023, 03:27:28 PM |
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I think that security system include different tools. There are some program "cheaters detectors", some testers, a team that searching what cheats are using in other casino, etc. But anyway i`m sure that we`ll see all the time how someone tries to cheat and how security tries to prevent cheating.
Yes, but after I observe, it seems that not all casinos have it all because we can see that there are several small casinos that have become victims of hacking and fraud. That's why I said before that a big and well-known casino must have all of this security. It is not easy for a small casino to have a team or sophisticated tools to deal with security and all criminal acts that can harm the casino because by having a team that can be relied on and has special security tools each casino must spend a large amount of money and of course small casinos do not maybe spending a big budget for it because their income and profits are not sufficient from what has to be spent. Even if the cheaters try it in a small casino and they can win, they also may not be able to get the money because we know that small casinos don't have large balances on their sites and that can make it difficult for cheaters to get money from the casino. But if they try it in a big casino, they have to be careful because the big casinos must have predicted this would happen in their casino. They will tighten supervision on every member and investigate every account if they suspect it. Maybe only the security team can overcome this cheater problem and secure the casino from anything that can harm the casino.
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March 05, 2023, 03:47:47 PM |
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I think that security system include different tools. There are some program "cheaters detectors", some testers, a team that searching what cheats are using in other casino, etc. But anyway i`m sure that we`ll see all the time how someone tries to cheat and how security tries to prevent cheating.
Yes, but after I observe, it seems that not all casinos have it all because we can see that there are several small casinos that have become victims of hacking and fraud. That's why I said before that a big and well-known casino must have all of this security. It is not easy for a small casino to have a team or sophisticated tools to deal with security and all criminal acts that can harm the casino because by having a team that can be relied on and has special security tools each casino must spend a large amount of money and of course small casinos do not maybe spending a big budget for it because their income and profits are not sufficient from what has to be spent. Even if the cheaters try it in a small casino and they can win, they also may not be able to get the money because we know that small casinos don't have large balances on their sites and that can make it difficult for cheaters to get money from the casino. But if they try it in a big casino, they have to be careful because the big casinos must have predicted this would happen in their casino. They will tighten supervision on every member and investigate every account if they suspect it. Maybe only the security team can overcome this cheater problem and secure the casino from anything that can harm the casino. You don't get me wrong first because not all small casinos only have little money in their bankroll. There is also a small casino with a large amount of money there, although not as much as money stored in large and famous bankroll. Their fraudsters or hackers launched the action in a large casino that stores a lot of money because there are also fraud and hackers who are unable to commit these criminal acts in large casinos so they prefer small casinos with an easier level of security to enter.
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Are there any bot scripts that were (and are still) considered legitimate these days? If there are any, I am not aware of, please share I think these kinds of scripts are not worth trying. I've read some articles before proving that almost all (if not all) dice bots are just created to scam. I remember one from those that say the bot was not giving back the money to the players, instead, the owner just accumulated the funds and then run away.
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March 06, 2023, 06:24:16 AM |
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I think that security system include different tools. There are some program "cheaters detectors", some testers, a team that searching what cheats are using in other casino, etc. But anyway i`m sure that we`ll see all the time how someone tries to cheat and how security tries to prevent cheating.
Yes, but after I observe, it seems that not all casinos have it all because we can see that there are several small casinos that have become victims of hacking and fraud. That's why I said before that a big and well-known casino must have all of this security. It is not easy for a small casino to have a team or sophisticated tools to deal with security and all criminal acts that can harm the casino because by having a team that can be relied on and has special security tools each casino must spend a large amount of money and of course small casinos do not maybe spending a big budget for it because their income and profits are not sufficient from what has to be spent. Even if the cheaters try it in a small casino and they can win, they also may not be able to get the money because we know that small casinos don't have large balances on their sites and that can make it difficult for cheaters to get money from the casino. But if they try it in a big casino, they have to be careful because the big casinos must have predicted this would happen in their casino. They will tighten supervision on every member and investigate every account if they suspect it. Maybe only the security team can overcome this cheater problem and secure the casino from anything that can harm the casino. You don't get me wrong first because not all small casinos only have little money in their bankroll. There is also a small casino with a large amount of money there, although not as much as money stored in large and famous bankroll. Their fraudsters or hackers launched the action in a large casino that stores a lot of money because there are also fraud and hackers who are unable to commit these criminal acts in large casinos so they prefer small casinos with an easier level of security to enter. I also know that smaller casinos have a lot of money in their bankroll, but it's probably not a lot. But what has been happening so far is that people who play in casinos that are unknown and have no reputation get more fraud, especially when they want to withdraw their winnings. Meanwhile, fraudsters or hackers can always choose their target by looking for casinos that are starting to develop by looking for weaknesses and then they enter the casino and take the money. But those fraudsters and hackers would not try to commit crimes in big casinos if they did not have high skills and entered a more sophisticated system than other casinos.
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mak013
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March 07, 2023, 06:54:03 AM |
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I think that security system include different tools. There are some program "cheaters detectors", some testers, a team that searching what cheats are using in other casino, etc. But anyway i`m sure that we`ll see all the time how someone tries to cheat and how security tries to prevent cheating.
Yes, but after I observe, it seems that not all casinos have it all because we can see that there are several small casinos that have become victims of hacking and fraud. That's why I said before that a big and well-known casino must have all of this security. It is not easy for a small casino to have a team or sophisticated tools to deal with security and all criminal acts that can harm the casino because by having a team that can be relied on and has special security tools each casino must spend a large amount of money and of course small casinos do not maybe spending a big budget for it because their income and profits are not sufficient from what has to be spent. Every business have to choose where they have to spend their money. I`m sure that there is no business that have enough money for everything on the start. In such situation the casino mostly spend money for attraction new gamblers, developing new services - they try their best to improve income. And if someone cheats - it usually not a serious problem this time - there are no big players and big money yet. The problems are easy to solve.
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JooBra
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March 07, 2023, 07:19:26 AM |
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I think that security system include different tools. There are some program "cheaters detectors", some testers, a team that searching what cheats are using in other casino, etc. But anyway i`m sure that we`ll see all the time how someone tries to cheat and how security tries to prevent cheating.
Yes, but after I observe, it seems that not all casinos have it all because we can see that there are several small casinos that have become victims of hacking and fraud. That's why I said before that a big and well-known casino must have all of this security. It is not easy for a small casino to have a team or sophisticated tools to deal with security and all criminal acts that can harm the casino because by having a team that can be relied on and has special security tools each casino must spend a large amount of money and of course small casinos do not maybe spending a big budget for it because their income and profits are not sufficient from what has to be spent. Every business have to choose where they have to spend their money. I`m sure that there is no business that have enough money for everything on the start. In such situation the casino mostly spend money for attraction new gamblers, developing new services - they try their best to improve income. And if someone cheats - it usually not a serious problem this time - there are no big players and big money yet. The problems are easy to solve. Having cheaters is nothing now and part of the job and part of the growing. Casinos are dealing with that kind of stuff all the time. It's nothing to worry about.
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ethereumhunter
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March 07, 2023, 09:44:37 AM |
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Every business have to choose where they have to spend their money. I`m sure that there is no business that have enough money for everything on the start. In such situation the casino mostly spend money for attraction new gamblers, developing new services - they try their best to improve income. And if someone cheats - it usually not a serious problem this time - there are no big players and big money yet. The problems are easy to solve.
Having cheaters is nothing now and part of the job and part of the growing. Casinos are dealing with that kind of stuff all the time. It's nothing to worry about. But still, it requires attention from the casino if someone or even more people are cheating because they want to use their opportunity to get a bonus from the new casino. But the casinos must have prepared a certain amount of capital to run their business, which is very big money because they have to plan to expand their casinos in many ways. But promotion is the most important thing a casino must do to attract lots of new gamblers or gamblers who usually play gambling at other casinos. But it looks like people will try to win games from the casino and maybe even use simulators, as @OP pointed out. And that is natural because their goal is to win. But we shouldn't always believe in a simulator like that because the reality in a casino will be different from what we do through a simulator.
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usekevin
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March 07, 2023, 05:55:23 PM |
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Not all the people using this strategy to get the bonus from the casino by using many accounts.Only few people try this was of method to get additional bonus.But in some casino,the withdrawal of bonus alone is not possible one.They will increase the level of withdrawal is more than a bonus amount.Some casino only give bonus after the deposit of some money.So the deposit person may try of few game for the website experience.This try will give a bulk profit or some loss for sure.So he should try the little amount of money for the website experience from the deposit money.Then even if he loss some funds ,it would not affect the person holding on the website.He can also use the bonus to have a website experience and withdraw funds after a profit or loss of small money.
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mak013
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March 08, 2023, 08:53:15 AM |
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Every business have to choose where they have to spend their money. I`m sure that there is no business that have enough money for everything on the start. In such situation the casino mostly spend money for attraction new gamblers, developing new services - they try their best to improve income. And if someone cheats - it usually not a serious problem this time - there are no big players and big money yet. The problems are easy to solve.
Having cheaters is nothing now and part of the job and part of the growing. Casinos are dealing with that kind of stuff all the time. It's nothing to worry about. It is good, until someone cheats you. I understand that the casino always work with such problems, but there is a difference between big named casino and small one that only trying to grew up. They have to choose how to spend money and i don`t think that the security is the main problem they want to decide.
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tusandii
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March 18, 2023, 04:11:46 AM |
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But still, it requires attention from the casino if someone or even more people are cheating because they want to use their opportunity to get a bonus from the new casino. But the casinos must have prepared a certain amount of capital to run their business, which is very big money because they have to plan to expand their casinos in many ways. But promotion is the most important thing a casino must do to attract lots of new gamblers or gamblers who usually play gambling at other casinos.
Trust me, friends, that casinos must have their own way of being able to detect and avoid fraudulent acts committed by their customers so they can get more bonuses that casinos provide. Maybe for now there are only a few gamblers who want to commit fraud like that because casinos always provide bonuses that are quite attractive but with conditions that are not easy either so those who are going to commit fraud will definitely think twice about doing it. Every casino business owner must have prepared all the aspects needed before building a casino business such as preparing large amounts of money for the continuation of the casino business and preparing several teams that can be trusted and responsible. Promotions are indeed very important, but not all promotions can make a casino develop into an established casino because if you only rely on promotions, you will definitely be able to lose to other casinos out there.
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