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Title: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Kakmakr on July 08, 2022, 07:19:35 AM
Good Day, Everyone

I do not know if anyone noticed it... but Preev.com is down. It just gives a message :
Oops!
Something went wrong

Looks like this domain's DNS hosting service has expired. If you are the administrator for this domain, please log into your DNS Made Easy account and renew your services. If you do not have a DNS Made Easy account, please contact your hosting provider.

Hope someone is doing something about this.... because I use this site every day.  ;)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Maus0728 on July 08, 2022, 07:32:38 AM
Did some little digging and I have found the bitcointalk account of the owner named fennec. Unfortunately, the account isn't active anymore.
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20586

Link to introduction to preev.com
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16733.msg216961#msg216961

Preev.com's website had previously gone offline multiple times in the past, however it eventually came back online after some time.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: mk4 on July 08, 2022, 07:53:19 AM
Preev.com's website had previously gone offline multiple times in the past, however it eventually came back online after some time.

I'm guessing this case it's a temporary issue as well (or at least I hope). The last archived page[1] of Preev was in June 21, in which it was still online. So is seems that this issue was just recent.


[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20220621203650/http://preev.com/


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Little Mouse on July 08, 2022, 08:51:04 AM
They don't have an existence in twitter? I had a look at twitter and found preev.pro which looks like same as preev.com however, the price isn't updated there for a long time as I can see 1 BTC = ~$35000 there now lol.

Did some little digging and I have found the bitcointalk account of the owner named fennec.
I didn’t even know they exist here  :o


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: mk4 on July 08, 2022, 09:05:12 AM
They don't have an existence in twitter?

Can't really blame them. Preev seems like a sort of "sideline" project of some dude, not necessarily a huge cashcow like CoinMarketCap/CoinGecko hence them having little to no incentive to actively do marketing on social media.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: btc_angela on July 08, 2022, 09:42:02 AM
Good Day, Everyone

I do not know if anyone noticed it... but Preev.com is down. It just gives a message :
Oops!
Something went wrong

Looks like this domain's DNS hosting service has expired. If you are the administrator for this domain, please log into your DNS Made Easy account and renew your services. If you do not have a DNS Made Easy account, please contact your hosting provider.

Hope someone is doing something about this.... because I use this site every day.  ;)


Yeah, still down as of the moment, one of the most used website for me. About 24 hours ago, I saw the price of 1 BTC = 20,820 and I said to myself that the price looks good. However, I'm not seeing any chances in the last couple of hours and when I try to refresh the page it throw me some error. So I have to used CMC or coingecko for a quick glance.

All we can do is wait for the owner and hopefully he will renew it.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: hugeblack on July 08, 2022, 10:43:57 AM
I remember that it stopped working several times from 2018 until today, so maybe wait a few days and the problem will be solved.

Some topics:

 - Calculator preev is down? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5290493.0)
 - Is Preev.com down? : r/Bitcoin - Reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4xac2i/is_preevcom_down/)
 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1197217.0

Anyway if you google preev.com the google result show BTC/USD value at preev.com without access the site.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: NeuroticFish on July 08, 2022, 10:51:14 AM
If it helps anybody, especially if (like me) they don't care to remember various site names and even longer URLs, I've made over time two redirects to other websites showing prices:

https://tinyurl.com/preev2

and

https://tinyurl.com/preev3


I hope though that preev will be back. It was the cleanest.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: FatFork on July 08, 2022, 11:10:48 AM
Anyway if you google preev.com the google result show BTC/USD value at preev.com without access the site.

There is no way for Google to display the actual BTC/USD value at preev.com without accessing the site. We may be seeing a cached version of the data, so it might not be accurate.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: bitmover on July 08, 2022, 11:50:12 AM
I made an alternative website to Preev, which supports more currencies.

I hope it helps someone while preev is down.

https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: bitmover on July 08, 2022, 03:35:52 PM
I made an alternative website to Preev, which supports more currencies.

I hope it helps someone while preev is down.

https://bitcoindata.science/bitcoin-units-converter.html

No offense, but for most people it's too long to remember and type unless they use bookmark feature.

Yes, I know.

I was thinking about buying a domain jsut for this tool, but I think that it won't have too many access and it is hard to get sponsors, so I would just spend money.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: NeuroticFish on July 08, 2022, 05:48:02 PM
No offense, but for most people it's too long to remember and type unless they use bookmark feature.

Yes, I know.

I was thinking about buying a domain jsut for this tool, but I think that it won't have too many access and it is hard to get sponsors, so I would just spend money.

I've made now from your link https://tinyurl.com/preev4
Sorry, the others (2 and 3) are taken, see my other post.
Not the best, stll, easier to remember.


Edit: fixed quotes


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: PX-Z on July 08, 2022, 07:35:18 PM
I see preev is a thing before but how come people still care to use it while there are lots of alternatives?

Honestly speaking i always just go to google then type "btc to usd" and then something pre made converter show in the search page and input things there.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: BitMaxz on July 08, 2022, 10:12:49 PM
This is the same happen before I guess it's related to a hosting issue or hosting expired.

According to whois, you can able to contact the domain owner through this link below.

- https://www.name.com/contact-domain-whois/preev.com

And according to name.com, they will send it directly to the owner. For now, use coingecko or coinmarketcap temporarily.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: hugeblack on July 09, 2022, 11:40:37 AM
There is no way for Google to display the actual BTC/USD value at preev.com without accessing the site. We may be seeing a cached version of the data, so it might not be accurate.
You are correct, a strange coincidence happened that the price of Bitcoin was around 21,200 and when I did a search I found this price, the price is still showing at 21,200 even though we are now at 21,700.  ;D

At least now we can guess when the site stopped


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 09, 2022, 12:20:29 PM
Huge bummer, tried to access the website yesterday to calculate how much I'll get in BTC from my signature campaign, but it was down. At first, I thought (more like hoped) that it was something wrong from my side, but it was clear that it wasn't. It was the first site I used to check Bitcoin's price, since 2013, and it's sad to see it go. It was simple and convenient to use.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Kakmakr on July 10, 2022, 11:29:42 AM
I appreciate the contributions of alternative options, but the convenience of typing a short URL (preev.com) to reach a very effective service to convert BTC value to Fiat currencies...has been one of the advantages of using this site.  ::)

It also provided good source data from very large trading platforms to get a very accurate value for the Bitcoin price. Preev.com is a no nonsense service with all the basic features that you want. (No unnecessary bells and whistles and clutter)  >:( 


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: ABCbits on July 10, 2022, 12:46:27 PM
I appreciate the contributions of alternative options, but the convenience of typing a short URL (preev.com) to reach a very effective service to convert BTC value to Fiat currencies...has been one of the advantages of using this site.  ::)

It also provided good source data from very large trading platforms to get a very accurate value for the Bitcoin price. Preev.com is a no nonsense service with all the basic features that you want. (No unnecessary bells and whistles and clutter)  >:( 

How about https://btc2fiat.me/ (https://btc2fiat.me/)? It should meet most of your criteria. There's also discussion about that website at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5395520.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5395520.0). Alternatively just bookmark one of website about bitcoin price on your browser.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: mk4 on July 10, 2022, 12:56:41 PM
I see preev is a thing before but how come people still care to use it while there are lots of alternatives?

Honestly speaking i always just go to google then type "btc to usd" and then something pre made converter show in the search page and input things there.

I've used Preev a lot back then. You use it basically just to have a really light-weight page open and living on one of your tabs that you don't need to refresh. It's mostly just a convenience thing than a feature thing. (at least in my case)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: robelneo on July 10, 2022, 01:25:54 PM
I'm also using Preev, traders should use 2 to 3 price converters to help them in their trading I can recommend my very own converter, Convert Top 200 Cryptocurrency To Your Local Currency Click The Name Of The Coin For Easy Conversion (https://thecryptocoinconverter.com/) while preev is still offline, I'm sure its webmaster will fix it and make it online again, Preev is indispensable been using this for many years.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: jrrsparkles on July 10, 2022, 03:03:33 PM
I see preev is a thing before but how come people still care to use it while there are lots of alternatives?

Honestly speaking i always just go to google then type "btc to usd" and then something pre made converter show in the search page and input things there.

I've used Preev a lot back then. You use it basically just to have a really light-weight page open and living on one of your tabs that you don't need to refresh. It's mostly just a convenience thing than a feature thing. (at least in my case)
Yes, its useful for someone like me, I don't like to keep checking the price too often but still I keep the site on one tab almost forever, I think since yesterday I noticed the server error but no need to worry since the instance is not new to preev so hopefully it will come back only soon.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: snipie on July 10, 2022, 07:49:32 PM
I witnessed this issue several times and It is like: oh, it is this time of the year..
There is many alternatives to preev.com but it remains the best, the cleanest for someone who just wants to take a rapid glance on the price multiple times in the day..
Hopefully it will return as usual. I noticed this issue and since it took some time and the site is still down, I did a Google search to find this topic since it is unbelievable no one would notice this too! I hate this when it happens :-\


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: edgycorner on July 10, 2022, 11:54:43 PM
zzzz still down  :'(
Maybe someone should create a clone until the real thing comes back? I will try creating one next week(if it isn't back by then), at least for my own personal use.
I really miss the live price indicator on a chrome tab  :-[


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: NeuroticFish on July 11, 2022, 07:20:35 AM
I really miss the live price indicator on a chrome tab  :-[

If you want to see the price on the tab header and its data and memory usage is not a problem, you can do what I do: keep one tab open with
https://bitcoinwisdom.io/markets/bitstamp/btcusd
or https://bitcoinwisdom.io/markets/bitfinex/btcusd

Of course, I don't mind if you also make a proper preev-like website  ;)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 11, 2022, 08:53:26 AM
Still down, and so are the chances of its revival. Unless someone decides to buy the domain and the hosting from the original owner, my best guess is that it won't return. I'm curious, though, is there any way to contact the owner of the website? How much would it cost to run such a simple page? Perhaps someone could be interested in buying it, even from the forum, since it's a very well-known and easy to remember address.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: ABCbits on July 11, 2022, 09:46:50 AM
zzzz still down  :'(
Maybe someone should create a clone until the real thing comes back? I will try creating one next week(if it isn't back by then), at least for my own personal use.
I really miss the live price indicator on a chrome tab  :-[

There's no need to reinvent the wheel, there are many alternatives which already mentioned. There are even open source one such as https://github.com/handsomelatino/btc2fiat (https://github.com/handsomelatino/btc2fiat).

I'm curious, though, is there any way to contact the owner of the website?

Let's see,
1. From archived preev.com page[1], i couldn't find any contact info (such as email address).
2. Looking at it's whois information[2], it only show contact info of domain services.
3. His account on Bitcointalk[3] was last accessed on 2015.

Looks like there's no way to contact the owner.

How much would it cost to run such a simple page?

For simple page like preev, $5/month VPS should enough. But good domain name could be expensive.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20220621203650/preev.com (https://web.archive.org/web/20220621203650/preev.com)
[2] https://who.is/whois/preev.com (https://who.is/whois/preev.com)
[3] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20586 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=20586)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 11, 2022, 10:00:04 AM
There's no need to reinvent the wheel, there are many alternatives which already mentioned. There are even open source one such as https://github.com/handsomelatino/btc2fiat (https://github.com/handsomelatino/btc2fiat).

I'm curious, though, is there any way to contact the owner of the website?

Let's see,
1. From archived preev.com page[1], i couldn't find any contact info (such as email address).
2. Looking at it's whois information[2], it only show contact info of domain services.
3. His account on Bitcointalk[3] was last accessed on 2015.

That sucks, certainly, hosting isn't expensive nowadays, the domain however, due to the increase traffic it receives is probably worth a few thousand bucks. The .net alternative isn't that costly, though, while Namecheap recommended me Preee.com for $2.500. That's too bad, because this website could also have an advertisement or two, just to cover its maintenance costs.

However, isn't the hosting that has expired and not the domain? Providing that hosting isn't that expensive, we can't be exactly sure if lack of money is what caused this website to go down, but a possible health or personal issue?

Nevertheless, it's a shame.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on July 11, 2022, 10:14:10 AM
judging by the whois information of the preev.com domain, I'm almost sure it's a hosting problem.
the domain has been extended until 2025, so there is no problem with that.
the first time the hosting was purchased is on June '11. So, it would be said that the annual hosting extension comes in this period.

https://whois.domaintools.com/preev.com
Code:
Dates	4,047 days old
Created on 2011-06-12
Expires on 2025-01-01
Updated on 2021-12-30

if the owner of the preev.com service somehow gets to this topic, I offer hosting as a donation for that service, without any compensation or fee.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 11, 2022, 10:18:50 AM
judging by the whois information of the preev.com domain, I'm almost sure it's a hosting problem.
the domain has been extended until 2025, so there is no problem with that.
the first time the hosting was purchased is on June '11. So, it would be said that the annual hosting extension comes in this period.

https://whois.domaintools.com/preev.com
Code:
Dates	4,047 days old
Created on 2011-06-12
Expires on 2025-01-01
Updated on 2021-12-30

if the owner of the preev.com service somehow gets to this topic, I offer hosting as a donation for that service, without any compensation or fee.
That's very kind of you! You're awesome, I'll also be willing to cover a part of the donation by dropping a few bucks. I don't have the luxury of paying for the whole year, but could possibly cover a month or two.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on July 11, 2022, 10:26:28 AM
That's very kind of you! You're awesome, I'll also be willing to cover a part of the donation by dropping a few bucks. I don't have the luxury of paying for the whole year, but could possibly cover a month or two.

I certainly already buy hosting for my needs, and it has been like that for 15+ years (I'm afraid to calculate the exact number of years  ;) )
since the server is not overloaded, I have room to add more domains. Such useful services deserve support. (some of the Bitcointalk users are already using this kind of offer from me)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: DaveF on July 11, 2022, 04:37:37 PM
judging by the whois information of the preev.com domain, I'm almost sure it's a hosting problem.
the domain has been extended until 2025, so there is no problem with that.
the first time the hosting was purchased is on June '11. So, it would be said that the annual hosting extension comes in this period.

https://whois.domaintools.com/preev.com
Code:
Dates	4,047 days old
Created on 2011-06-12
Expires on 2025-01-01
Updated on 2021-12-30

if the owner of the preev.com service somehow gets to this topic, I offer hosting as a donation for that service, without any compensation or fee.

To me it looks like *something* expired. Domains are bought in 1 year blocks. You can't create a domain on June 12th and have it expire Jain 1st.
To me it looks like it expired in June and since there is a grace period before the end their particular host kept it up for a few weeks.
Some will kill it the 1st day some will keep it running for a while.

Just how I see it.

-Dave


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Saisher on July 12, 2022, 01:14:22 PM
judging by the whois information of the preev.com domain, I'm almost sure it's a hosting problem.
the domain has been extended until 2025, so there is no problem with that.
the first time the hosting was purchased is on June '11. So, it would be said that the annual hosting extension comes in this period.

https://whois.domaintools.com/preev.com
Code:
Dates	4,047 days old
Created on 2011-06-12
Expires on 2025-01-01
Updated on 2021-12-30

if the owner of the preev.com service somehow gets to this topic, I offer hosting as a donation for that service, without any compensation or fee.

To me it looks like *something* expired. Domains are bought in 1 year blocks. You can't create a domain on June 12th and have it expire Jain 1st.
To me it looks like it expired in June and since there is a grace period before the end their particular host kept it up for a few weeks.
Some will kill it the 1st day some will keep it running for a while.

Just how I see it.

-Dave

It's only the host that expired not the domain if the domain is the one that expired there is no notification coming from his host, I used to have a domain when my host subscription expired it has a notification that my subscription has expired if the domain expired you will see a blank page because you cannot connect it anymore to your host as it is disabled


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on July 12, 2022, 02:06:06 PM
It's only the host that expired not the domain if the domain is the one that expired there is no notification coming from his host, I used to have a domain when my host subscription expired it has a notification that my subscription has expired if the domain expired you will see a blank page because you cannot connect it anymore to your host as it is disabled

DaveF pointed to something unusual. While is possible to pay hosting for a month, three, six or a year, the domain is always paid on an annual basis, not at all half-yearly. while it is obvious that the preev domain was registered in June '11, now it expires in January, so it's strange that 6 months disappeared.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Kakmakr on July 12, 2022, 05:55:18 PM
Well, it is the perfect time for some developer to jump on the opportunity to close a gap in the market. Just make sure you keep it basic and also use a very short domain name. (URL) .....because that was part of the success of this site. (Also, it did not have advertisements all over the site)

The owner obviously did not create Preev.com to profit from it, he/she/they offered this service to support the community. (I would add a donation address to fund the domain hosting cost for the site, if it was mine)  ;)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 12, 2022, 08:11:05 PM
DaveF pointed to something unusual. While is possible to pay hosting for a month, three, six or a year, the domain is always paid on an annual basis, not at all half-yearly. while it is obvious that the preev domain was registered in June '11, now it expires in January, so it's strange that 6 months disappeared.
June'11 to 2025 is a long time.
Here is my theory. Most of the cases months are counted as 30 days period. In years there are 28 days, 29 days, 30 days, and 31 days for months. Maybe if we count the total days and divide it by 30 then we will find an actual figure. That 5 month difference should cover.

I am 100% sure that the domain is perfectly fine. It's the hosting which has expired. The site was really useful for me. Now I visit exchange to see the price LOL


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: LTU_btc on July 12, 2022, 08:13:06 PM
If Preev won't return, it will be big loss. When few days ago I wanted to check Bitcoin price at Preev and saw that their domain expired, I thought - what I should do now? Yeah, there is many places where you can check, but I failed to find something so convenient as Preev. Fast, clean UI not filled with ads, simple and that's all what I needed.
I see some alternatives mentioned, but their domains is long and impossible to remember.
Maybe someone can suggest Bitcoin price desktop widget for Windows?
I see preev is a thing before but how come people still care to use it while there are lots of alternatives?

Honestly speaking i always just go to google then type "btc to usd" and then something pre made converter show in the search page and input things there.
It's question of habbits and preferences. I used preev for 6 years maybe and was satisfied with it. And now it's difficult to change habbits after such long time. You prefer to type BTC to USD in Google, I prefer to enter Preev.com.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: carlfebz2 on July 12, 2022, 08:37:30 PM
If Preev won't return, it will be big loss. When few days ago I wanted to check Bitcoin price at Preev and saw that their domain expired, I thought - what I should do now? Yeah, there is many places where you can check, but I failed to find something so convenient as Preev. Fast, clean UI not filled with ads, simple and that's all what I needed.
I see some alternatives mentioned, but their domains is long and impossible to remember.
Maybe someone can suggest Bitcoin price desktop widget for Windows?
I see preev is a thing before but how come people still care to use it while there are lots of alternatives?

Honestly speaking i always just go to google then type "btc to usd" and then something pre made converter show in the search page and input things there.
It's question of habbits and preferences. I used preev for 6 years maybe and was satisfied with it. And now it's difficult to change habbits after such long time. You prefer to type BTC to USD in Google, I prefer to enter Preev.com.
Im with this! +1

Having Preev on downtime is just really like a big loss to me because whenever i do check price of btc then its already bookmarked or already in history result of my browser which i do only need to press

Pr ++ and then enter then i do already know the price of BTC on point.Its true that it might be simple on saying that there are lots of alternatives but nothing beats out preev on that manner.
Ive been using this for how many years or shall we say on the time that i had known bitcoin. Now i do need to click and search in google.
Even trying to check on CMC do really feels like to exert too much effort. lol


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: 100bitcoin on July 13, 2022, 04:42:26 PM
Good Day, Everyone

I do not know if anyone noticed it... but Preev.com is down. It just gives a message :
Oops!
Something went wrong

Looks like this domain's DNS hosting service has expired. If you are the administrator for this domain, please log into your DNS Made Easy account and renew your services. If you do not have a DNS Made Easy account, please contact your hosting provider.

Hope someone is doing something about this.... because I use this site every day.  ;)


Preev.com is back. Please update Title & OP.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: snipie on July 13, 2022, 06:12:49 PM
Preev.com is back. Please update Title & OP.
Indeed it is finally back, although I had the same error before refreshing the page, and the first thing to see is 1 BTC = 19710 USD.
An international treasure this site, Bitcointalk should acquire it in case the owner can no longer maintain it for a reason or another imo


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: yahoo62278 on July 13, 2022, 07:40:28 PM
Preev.com is back. Please update Title & OP.
Indeed it is finally back, although I had the same error before refreshing the page, and the first thing to see is 1 BTC = 19710 USD.
An international treasure this site, Bitcointalk should acquire it in case the owner can no longer maintain it for a reason or another imo
I doubt it is an issue of whether or not the owner can maintain it, but rather the owner hasn't set a reminder as the when it will expire. I don't know if theymos would even consider buying the site either as there are money other alternatives.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: LTU_btc on July 13, 2022, 07:47:19 PM
Good to see it's finally back, I really missed Preev in all these days
Quote from: snipie link=topic=5405567.msg60561988#msg60561988  :)date=1657735969
Indeed it is finally back, although I had the same error before refreshing the page, and the first thing to see is 1 BTC = 19710 USD.
Probably error that you got was from cached version of website.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 13, 2022, 08:04:25 PM
An international treasure this site, Bitcointalk should acquire it in case the owner can no longer maintain it for a reason or another imo
I was looking at the domain to buy when it was down LOL
The site is very popular to the community and it amaze me that the owner is earning nothing from it. He could have just placed a banner ad and advertiser would pay him a lot of money.

https://i.postimg.cc/3xXkZCWJ/Screenshot-2.png
Look at the stat for monthly visit. It's crazy number.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: snipie on July 13, 2022, 09:06:09 PM
-snip-
Look at the stat for monthly visit. It's crazy number.
Yeah incredible how a simple site could generate traffic, 1.5m! Simple and useful :)

Probably error that you got was from cached version of website.
At first I thought there is a problem with the site but after refreshing it worked and tried with another browser and whether it is only me site and it was fine so yes, you are right, it is the cached version that caused this

I doubt it is an issue of whether or not the owner can maintain it, but rather the owner hasn't set a reminder as the when it will expire. I don't know if theymos would even consider buying the site either as there are money other alternatives.
Yeah I am aware of the forums expenses. For theymos 1 BTC = 1 BTC so it is almost impossible to see a banner in the forums talking about FIAT/altcoins prices to BTC. A script could be made but it won't be popular imo. So the easiest alternative to all of that is preev since it is easy to visit, simple and without ads.

As mentioned, if the owner add non annoying ads, he could generate a lot of money I assume, this thing could be done by the forums too if they acquire it.
I am relieved that the site is back and I hope there won't be a new topic about this issue in 2023!


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: BitMaxz on July 13, 2022, 10:30:17 PM
I can access the preev again but with a warning from my AV Kaspersky I don't know why my AV gives a warning notice accessing this website it's only the price of bitcoin.

The site is very popular to the community and it amaze me that the owner is earning nothing from it. He could have just placed a banner ad and advertiser would pay him a lot of money.
 

When I first access the preev website before the year 2015 or 2016 they do have a few ads and banner ads but after 2017 or I think 2018 they stop promoting ads. I think it's because ads pull data like IPs and a little information about your device and I don't remember exactly but there is a discussion and report before about those ads on preev that end up removing ads.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 14, 2022, 12:48:20 AM
When I first access the preev website before the year 2015 or 2016 they do have a few ads and banner ads but after 2017 or I think 2018 they stop promoting ads.
I can not remember since when I am using preev but I can not remember to see any ads at all. I must be late to get introduced to the site.

Quote
I think it's because ads pull data like IPs and a little information about your device and I don't remember exactly but there is a discussion and report before about those ads on preev that end up removing ads.
A simple banner which is hosted in their same server is not going to make any difference. Since there are no registration required, I do not understand only from the IP of the visitors what possible issue their could be? Anyway, whoever own the site, he must have full commitment to the bitcoin community. It's very rare.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired. (Resolved)
Post by: Kakmakr on July 14, 2022, 11:16:51 AM
OK, I am very glad to see that Preev.com is online again. I hope the person or persons behind this site will provide contact details for us to notify them when the site is down.

Looking at the site statistics and the hits Preev.com are getting, I will also suggest that the developers behind the site might consider adding a donation address for people to help with the funding for the site.  ;)

In any way.... Thank you very much for all your inputs.  ;)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Pmalek on July 14, 2022, 01:58:40 PM
Even though the site is running again, I wanted to mention an alternative that I saw the other day posted by someone in the Project Development sub-forum.
https://bitcoinpricecalc.com/

It's a decent site and even has a historical reference of prices dating back to 2012. I think it's a good thing to support simple things developed by Bitcointalk members.   


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 14, 2022, 02:28:19 PM
Even though the site is running again, I wanted to mention an alternative that I saw the other day posted by someone in the Project Development sub-forum.
https://bitcoinpricecalc.com/
It looks better version of preev but it will take time to earn the name. Preev already earned it.
I think it's a good thing to support simple things developed by Bitcointalk members.   
Of course it is. Who is the user? I am glad to see that there is a donation address. So let's with that his community work does not cost him money out of his pocket. Preev admin could do the same but I guess he has enough 😉


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired. (Resolved)
Post by: Ultegra134 on July 14, 2022, 02:32:31 PM
OK, I am very glad to see that Preev.com is online again. I hope the person or persons behind this site will provide contact details for us to notify them when the site is down.

Looking at the site statistics and the hits Preev.com are getting, I will also suggest that the developers behind the site might consider adding a donation address for people to help with the funding for the site.  ;)

In any way.... Thank you very much for all your inputs.  ;)
That's great news, I'm glad it's back, it's the most convenient way to convert USD to Bitcoin, without needing to bookmark websites or use Google Search. I also wouldn't mind donating to the cause, in order to support the website, since it's not generating any kind of income, despite the increased traffic it's receiving.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired. (Resolved)
Post by: tabas on July 14, 2022, 03:11:51 PM
OK, I am very glad to see that Preev.com is online again. I hope the person or persons behind this site will provide contact details for us to notify them when the site is down.

Looking at the site statistics and the hits Preev.com are getting, I will also suggest that the developers behind the site might consider adding a donation address for people to help with the funding for the site.  ;)

In any way.... Thank you very much for all your inputs.  ;)
Yes, it's always. I've wondered now when I've been using them for years but stopped since the pandemic has started on how this website earns. There seems to be no way for them to generate profit so yeah, a donation address will be a big thing to them.
Just like the other website that we used to see that they've got a tip address.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: edgycorner on July 14, 2022, 03:28:25 PM
https://c.tenor.com/HbCuBNMmBXcAAAAC/mad-men-birthday.gif


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: LTU_btc on July 14, 2022, 08:28:42 PM
Even though the site is running again, I wanted to mention an alternative that I saw the other day posted by someone in the Project Development sub-forum.
https://bitcoinpricecalc.com/

It's a decent site and even has a historical reference of prices dating back to 2012. I think it's a good thing to support simple things developed by Bitcointalk members.   
That's good one. Marking it into bookmarks, hope it will stay alive for long, because often such projects which are made as alternative for something goes offline just after some months.
Only disadvantage is long domain name, which is basically 3x longer than Preev.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Pmalek on July 15, 2022, 08:52:29 AM
Who is the user?
I didn't bookmark the thread so I forgot who posted it. Luckily, I found it with Ninjastic.space. His username is blockgardener and this is the thread: Bitcoin price calculator - Calculate live and historic Bitcoin prices (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5355273.0)
The site has actually been live for almost a year, but I just discovered it after the OP posted some fresh updates the other day.

Only disadvantage is long domain name, which is basically 3x longer than Preev.
I agree. It's far from ideal. I have gotten so used to typing just the first 2-3 letters of "preev", it's weird typing something else now.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 15, 2022, 06:23:16 PM
I didn't bookmark the thread so I forgot who posted it. Luckily, I found it with Ninjastic.space. His username is blockgardener and this is the thread: Bitcoin price calculator - Calculate live and historic Bitcoin prices (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5355273.0)
The site has actually been live for almost a year, but I just discovered it after the OP posted some fresh updates the other day.
Thank you. The user deserved some merit. I wish I was a source. But happy to send couple for him. According to whois, the domain registered in march 2020 so the domain age is over 2 years. Now that we started to discover the project I hope more bitcoiner will find it useful and use it frequently.

Right now unfortunately there are not much data for the website.

https://i.postimg.cc/xdjhMx7G/stat.png
https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcoinpricecalc.com/#overview


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: snipie on August 09, 2022, 07:19:24 PM
Well, hate to bump this thread and bring that again but I am receiving the same service has expired error as the previous time... I believe I am not the only one? And how could this happen after barely 1 month of solving this...
I hope the owner could resolve this once for all and if he is busy IRL to let another trusted member to run it for him :-\


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: LTU_btc on August 09, 2022, 08:17:04 PM
Well, hate to bump this thread and bring that again but I am receiving the same service has expired error as the previous time... I believe I am not the only one? And how could this happen after barely 1 month of solving this...
I hope the owner could resolve this once for all and if he is busy IRL to let another trusted member to run it for him :-\
I checked Preev today morning and got this error. I thought that's cache from previous time, but seems that not if I'm not alone getting  this error. I also tried on other browser, same stuff.
It would be sad if owner will abandon this website.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on August 09, 2022, 09:06:42 PM
the site is also unavailable for me, I wouldn't say that there is a problem with hosting here or that anything expired. I would rather say that the problem with the cache is on the server side.
Pinging going well and have a response from there.

Code:
Pinging preev.com [157.230.67.179] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 157.230.67.179: bytes=32 time=120ms TTL=128
Reply from 157.230.67.179: bytes=32 time=126ms TTL=128
Reply from 157.230.67.179: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=128
Reply from 157.230.67.179: bytes=32 time=127ms TTL=128


edit: is there any similar free script?


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: DaveF on August 09, 2022, 09:08:34 PM
Well, hate to bump this thread and bring that again but I am receiving the same service has expired error as the previous time... I believe I am not the only one? And how could this happen after barely 1 month of solving this...
I hope the owner could resolve this once for all and if he is busy IRL to let another trusted member to run it for him :-\

Or hopefully open source it so anyone can run it or something close to it.
In theory it's probably not that hard to do, but I do tip my hat to them since they DID do it while the rest of us just stood around and used it.
Pull a bunch of data from a bunch of APIs and math, I am really surprised nobody else has done it. There are a few that look the same but only pull from 1 source.

the site is also unavailable for me, I wouldn't say that there is a problem with hosting here or that anything expired. I would rather say that the problem with the cache is on the server side.
Pinging going well and have a response from there.

Code:
Pinging preev.com [157.230.67.179] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 157.230.67.179: bytes=32 time=120ms TTL=128
Reply from 157.230.67.179: bytes=32 time=126ms TTL=128
Reply from 157.230.67.179: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=128
Reply from 157.230.67.179: bytes=32 time=127ms TTL=128

The 157.230.67.179 is the IP of the DNS made easy expire page. It's a known thing in the hosting world.

-Dave


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Pmalek on August 10, 2022, 08:16:29 AM
edit: is there any similar free script?
A similar site to preev.com? Have you tried the one I suggested in one of my previous posts in this topic?
https://bitcoinpricecalc.com/

It's not really a catchy name and some people rightly say the site name is too long and hard to remember. But I like the historical price references and the orange bitcoin background more than the boring white page of preev.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on August 10, 2022, 10:01:13 AM
edit: is there any similar free script?
A similar site to preev.com? Have you tried the one I suggested in one of my previous posts in this topic?
https://bitcoinpricecalc.com/

It's not really a catchy name and some people rightly say the site name is too long and hard to remember. But I like the historical price references and the orange bitcoin background more than the boring white page of preev.

"similar script" not "site"  ;)
I know for bitcoinpricecalc.com, follow them from his announcing, but just because the name is too long (three words in the domain), I might look for an alternative that will be always online.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: ABCbits on August 10, 2022, 11:34:36 AM
--snip--

"similar script" not "site"  ;)
I know for bitcoinpricecalc.com, follow them from his announcing, but just because the name is too long (three words in the domain), I might look for an alternative that will be always online.

There's no guarantee any website will be always online, even Google was down in past. But how about https://btc2fiat.me/ (https://btc2fiat.me/)? It's not too long and open source, so you also could host it on your server with better domain name.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Pmalek on August 10, 2022, 11:43:15 AM
<Snip>
I just noticed that bitcoinpricecalc.com had a little glitch this morning where, according to them, the price of bitcoin went up to $24.500 for a brief period only to drop back again. I couldn't find this pump & dump anywhere else. Maybe it's the result of a sudden spike that happened on an exchange somewhere or a source they are getting their data from. I haven't noticed this before with this site. I remember Ledger Live used to show dumb graphs like this in the past.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/11/12/t0fho.jpeg


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: five_five on August 10, 2022, 04:53:38 PM
Hi. The website https://myri.io is a similar Simple Bitcoin Converter to preev.com.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: LTU_btc on August 10, 2022, 07:23:07 PM
Hi. The website https://myri.io is a similar Simple Bitcoin Converter to preev.com.
It's not similar, it's copycat. Anyway, I suggest  to add few more exchanges from where you're taking prices, it's not good to rely on one exchange. It's good that you're using short domain name, but it's not related to Bitcoin and price of it. Though, same can be said about Preev name, but it's already legendary.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: fortunecrypto on August 12, 2022, 01:04:24 PM
I'm not using Preev anymore but this is where I started, I just wonder why the developer is not renewing the hosting or if he can transfer to a cheaper one like Namecheap, the domain is up until 2025, two things either the developer is not interested anymore or he forgot it and is not aware of it.

Domain:preev.com
Registrar:Name.com, Inc.
Registered On:2011-06-12
Expires On:2025-01-01
Updated On:2021-12-31


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: shitexpress on August 13, 2022, 04:02:55 PM
Use https://coinval.co


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Ultegra134 on August 13, 2022, 07:35:56 PM
I'm not using Preev anymore but this is where I started, I just wonder why the developer is not renewing the hosting or if he can transfer to a cheaper one like Namecheap, the domain is up until 2025, two things either the developer is not interested anymore or he forgot it and is not aware of it.

Domain:preev.com
Registrar:Name.com, Inc.
Registered On:2011-06-12
Expires On:2025-01-01
Updated On:2021-12-31
It's a shame because I've been using it since I entered the cryptocurrency scene in 2013 - 2014. It was facing the exact same issue less than 2 months ago, it's actually frustrating on what's causing the owner to neglect it. For the time being, I'll be switching to myri.io, which was recommended by another poster.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: bitmover on August 13, 2022, 10:39:10 PM
Well, hate to bump this thread and bring that again but I am receiving the same service has expired error as the previous time... I believe I am not the only one? And how could this happen after barely 1 month of solving this...
I hope the owner could resolve this once for all and if he is busy IRL to let another trusted member to run it for him :-\

Or hopefully open source it so anyone can run it or something close to it.
In theory it's probably not that hard to do, but I do tip my hat to them since they DID do it while the rest of us just stood around and used it.
Pull a bunch of data from a bunch of APIs and math, I am really surprised nobody else has done it. There are a few that look the same but only pull from 1 source.


The source code in this case is totally worthless. Anyone can do it. Even de api data is worthless, as you can get anywhere. If the api data came from just one exchange it wouldn't make any difference.

The only thing that is worth something here is the domain, as it is widely known and  used.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: agentF on August 15, 2022, 06:56:57 AM
I have tried reaching the developer via multi-services, and there is no response. I have offered a ridiculous amount to buy the domain so I could get his attention, yet again no response ($1M in ETH was offered).

I hope I'm mistaken, but something maybe happened to the developer. It is not a matter of money; it's cheap to renew hosting services.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on August 15, 2022, 10:14:05 AM
I have tried reaching the developer via multi-services, and there is no response. I have offered a ridiculous amount to buy the domain so I could get his attention, yet again no response ($1M in ETH was offered).

Wow, how did you arrive at that value for that domain? I mean $1M, is it really worth that much?

Quote
I hope I'm mistaken, but something maybe happened to the developer. It is not a matter of money; it's cheap to renew hosting services.

considering that after the interruption, the page still appears again, I would say that everything is fine with the owner, only that page is not on his list of important priorities.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: agentF on August 15, 2022, 12:06:44 PM
I have tried reaching the developer via multi-services, and there is no response. I have offered a ridiculous amount to buy the domain so I could get his attention, yet again no response ($1M in ETH was offered).

Wow, how did you arrive at that value for that domain? I mean $1M, is it really worth that much?

Quote
I hope I'm mistaken, but something maybe happened to the developer. It is not a matter of money; it's cheap to renew hosting services.

considering that after the interruption, the page still appears again, I would say that everything is fine with the owner, only that page is not on his list of important priorities.


Website is not working for me.

It says DNS error.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: agentF on August 15, 2022, 12:07:04 PM
I have tried reaching the developer via multi-services, and there is no response. I have offered a ridiculous amount to buy the domain so I could get his attention, yet again no response ($1M in ETH was offered).

Wow, how did you arrive at that value for that domain? I mean $1M, is it really worth that much?

IMO $1M is too expensive, which is equivalent of btc.com domain price during 2014[1]. If preev.com domain to be auctioned, i'd expect top bid somewhere between $50K - $500K.

[1] https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2014/08/04/btccom-domain-sold-to-gawminers-for-record-1-million/ (https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2014/08/04/btccom-domain-sold-to-gawminers-for-record-1-million/)

Just wanted to get his attention.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: LTU_btc on August 15, 2022, 09:14:12 PM
Just wanted to get his attention.
Probably it's better to go with more realistic amount if you want to get attention. With $1m offer he will think that you're not serious.

IMO $1M is too expensive, which is equivalent of btc.com domain price during 2014[1]. If preev.com domain to be auctioned, i'd expect top bid somewhere between $50K - $500K.
Yeah, $1m would be way too much, $50k probably too cheap. I'm not really sure how much exactly it's worth, but properly monetized this webssite would generate really good money. And I'm not talking about site filled with ads, just few banners would be enough.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on August 15, 2022, 10:09:39 PM
to all preev lovers, and for those who are used to it and find it difficult to change their habits https://preev.net/ is online  ;)

so it's not a .com domain, it's a .net
there is also a different script (thanks to ETFbitcoin for the suggestion) which uses CoinGecko API for conversion


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on August 16, 2022, 09:57:33 AM
Thanks for sharing this website. By any chance, are you owner of this domain?

Yes. After all the discussions here, and it is obvious that many users use the preev site, I buy this preev.net domain. I am very surprised that the domain already has solid traffic, although it was newly created, less than 24h.

Its purpose will be a quick conversion, and that's all. maybe at some point, more market sources can be added or one or two major altcoins. But that's far, I didn't plan all this.

btw. Why preev? is it an abbreviation for something specific?


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: agentF on August 16, 2022, 10:00:02 AM
Thanks for sharing this website. By any chance, are you owner of this domain?

Yes. After all the discussions here, and it is obvious that many users use the preev site, I buy this preev.net domain. I am very surprised that the domain already has solid traffic, although it was newly created, less than 24h.

Its purpose will be a quick conversion, and that's all. maybe at some point, more market sources can be added or one or two major altcoins. But that's far, I didn't plan all this.

btw. Why preev? is it an abbreviation for something specific?

May i ask for how much did you buy it ?


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on August 16, 2022, 10:10:46 AM
Thanks for sharing this website. By any chance, are you owner of this domain?

Yes. After all the discussions here, and it is obvious that many users use the preev site, I buy this preev.net domain. I am very surprised that the domain already has solid traffic, although it was newly created, less than 24h.

Its purpose will be a quick conversion, and that's all. maybe at some point, more market sources can be added or one or two major altcoins. But that's far, I didn't plan all this.

btw. Why preev? is it an abbreviation for something specific?

May i ask for how much did you buy it ?

The regular price for .net on registrar (Namesilo) $11.79
the domain was free to register until I bought it  ;). Yap, that sounds strange.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Welsh on August 16, 2022, 10:32:23 AM
btw. Why preev? is it an abbreviation for something specific?
Not that I'm aware of, I might be wrong. However, it was basically the first one to do this sort of thing...right. Therefore, the name "preev" is somewhat like a brand name, similar to how IKEA doesn't really have anything to do with the stuff they sell, but practically everyone knows who they are, and what they do.

Since it was in the game early, and was reliable it has built up that reputation. I imagine the owner does know the worth of the domain, and if they don't have any interest in continuing the site, will probably look to sell at some point. It's easy to forget about a sites hosting if it isn't costing you much, and you aren't adding any additional functionality to the website. Obviously, not the best practice, but I know its done quite a lot, even massive companies have fallen into this trap.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: NeuroticFish on August 16, 2022, 11:17:54 AM
The regular price for .net on registrar (Namesilo) $11.79
the domain was free to register until I bought it  ;). Yap, that sounds strange.

Congratulations! Nice business and I like to know such an important name stays at somebody active and trusted.

Still, I am not that happy with the choice of the script, I find others better (one example would be https://preecs.coolstorage.org/ that makes the average of 3 exchanges, keeps the price visible on the title bar and also updates the price regularly without refresh). Of course, I expect you've picked fast one script that looked good and in time you'll get to the best; and it's not that bad either, I'm just overly picky.

btw. Why preev? is it an abbreviation for something specific?

IMO it was thought randomly and owner decide to use it since it's short and has only one syllable.

My guess has always been that's some sort of PRicE EValuation (and obviously a short and cheap name picked)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: agentF on August 16, 2022, 01:55:27 PM
Thanks for sharing this website. By any chance, are you owner of this domain?

Yes. After all the discussions here, and it is obvious that many users use the preev site, I buy this preev.net domain. I am very surprised that the domain already has solid traffic, although it was newly created, less than 24h.

Its purpose will be a quick conversion, and that's all. maybe at some point, more market sources can be added or one or two major altcoins. But that's far, I didn't plan all this.

btw. Why preev? is it an abbreviation for something specific?

May i ask for how much did you buy it ?

The regular price for .net on registrar (Namesilo) $11.79
the domain was free to register until I bought it  ;). Yap, that sounds strange.

Hey,

Offering you 2K right now :)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: snipie on August 16, 2022, 05:33:11 PM
to all preev lovers, and for those who are used to it and find it difficult to change their habits https://preev.net/ is online  ;)

so it's not a .com domain, it's a .net
there is also a different script (thanks to ETFbitcoin for the suggestion) which uses CoinGecko API for conversion
That's a clever move from you ;)
Simple link and easy to use website. Yes I recommend it and would keep using it. I would like to see some altcoins there like Doge, LTC, ETH..
The site is running good in chrome, duckduckgo browsers but seems to have problems in UC Browser, it struck in "Preev...net... Fetching exchange rate from CoinGecko..." page.
Keep up the good work :)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Kakmakr on August 17, 2022, 06:56:03 AM
to all preev lovers, and for those who are used to it and find it difficult to change their habits https://preev.net/ is online  ;)

so it's not a .com domain, it's a .net
there is also a different script (thanks to ETFbitcoin for the suggestion) which uses CoinGecko API for conversion

It is not working for me... it is giving me this error message :

⚠️   Error fetching USD to BTC exchange rate from CoinGecko.

Can you possibly add more data sources for price information from more exchanges to serve as a backup, if the primary source goes down?

Congrats on acquiring the .net extension for the Preev.com domain.... one should have thought that the owner of the preev.com would have bought most of those for mirror sites and redundancy.  ::)

Ps : Under the About link... you spelled purposes wrong... you spelled it "porpuses" .... and it would be nice if you could add an email address, so that we can send you a email, if and when it goes down.   ;)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: ABCbits on August 17, 2022, 09:33:38 AM
@examplens looking at amount of preev,net discussion, i'd recommend you make a thread about your website/domain at Service Announcements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=84.0).

My guess has always been that's some sort of PRicE EValuation (and obviously a short and cheap name picked)

That's clever guess.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on August 18, 2022, 05:40:07 PM
May i ask for how much did you buy it ?
The regular price for .net on registrar (Namesilo) $11.79
the domain was free to register until I bought it  ;). Yap, that sounds strange.

I have to say it's rather cheap considering popularity of preev.com.
It's of course cheap. Dumb people like me always type preev in the address bar and not caring about the TLD LOL
By the way .com is better in the sense that search engine likes it but others TLD are fine to as long as a site is used by people.

It's not okay to see Preev is down again. It's been last few days the site is down.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Ultegra134 on August 21, 2022, 12:31:14 PM
to all preev lovers, and for those who are used to it and find it difficult to change their habits https://preev.net/ is online  ;)

so it's not a .com domain, it's a .net
there is also a different script (thanks to ETFbitcoin for the suggestion) which uses CoinGecko API for conversion
Thank you for your contribution, I'm glad someone did this, and I already proceeded to delete Preev.com from the suggested websites so yours pops up first now. It's honestly a great alternative, but I'd like to point out some minor things that would render it perfect. Firstly, the favicon has a white background instead of it being transparent, tiny detail indeed, but it's a 2-minute fix, so why not?

P.S I have a tendency to spot such little imperfections, don't mind me  :P

https://i.ibb.co/F7MdCfR/Preev.png (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on August 21, 2022, 12:41:39 PM
to all preev lovers, and for those who are used to it and find it difficult to change their habits https://preev.net/ is online  ;)

so it's not a .com domain, it's a .net
there is also a different script (thanks to ETFbitcoin for the suggestion) which uses CoinGecko API for conversion
Thank you for your contribution, I'm glad someone did this, and I already proceeded to delete Preev.com from the suggested websites so yours pops up first now. It's honestly a great alternative, but I'd like to point out some minor things that would render it perfect. Firstly, the favicon has a white background instead of it being transparent, tiny detail indeed, but it's a 2-minute fix, so why not?

P.S I have a tendency to spot such little imperfections, don't mind me  :P

https://i.ibb.co/F7MdCfR/Preev.png (https://imgbb.com/)

to be honest, I'm a little taken aback by the whole thing. I added the script just enough to give functionality to the site itself, certainly this is not the final solution.
now that I'm here, the plan is to add more functionality. I will probably open a separate topic to collect the best suggestions from the community, in order to make a stable and useful service.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Ultegra134 on August 21, 2022, 03:49:49 PM
to all preev lovers, and for those who are used to it and find it difficult to change their habits https://preev.net/ is online  ;)

so it's not a .com domain, it's a .net
there is also a different script (thanks to ETFbitcoin for the suggestion) which uses CoinGecko API for conversion
Thank you for your contribution, I'm glad someone did this, and I already proceeded to delete Preev.com from the suggested websites so yours pops up first now. It's honestly a great alternative, but I'd like to point out some minor things that would render it perfect. Firstly, the favicon has a white background instead of it being transparent, tiny detail indeed, but it's a 2-minute fix, so why not?

P.S I have a tendency to spot such little imperfections, don't mind me  :P

https://i.ibb.co/F7MdCfR/Preev.png (https://imgbb.com/)

to be honest, I'm a little taken aback by the whole thing. I added the script just enough to give functionality to the site itself, certainly this is not the final solution.
now that I'm here, the plan is to add more functionality. I will probably open a separate topic to collect the best suggestions from the community, in order to make a stable and useful service.
Don't get me wrong, the website itself is great, simple, minimalistic and certainly aesthetically better than the original Preev, the black background is way more attractive than a plain white one. You served the community by replacing a service which stopped functioning, with an improved version of the previous one.

There's certainly always room for improvement, but I can't find any issues with the website that need improvement.


Title: Re: Preev - what does the name mean?
Post by: krostue on August 21, 2022, 05:48:28 PM
When two people say the same thing, at the same time, in a conversation, in real life, they say jinx.

When this happens online, it is called a preev. It is an online term that predates bitcoin. (urban dictionary)

I always figured this was the best site for current price because it was aggregated from several sources. Ideally the sources would say the same thing, and have a preev. Otherwise the site must have needed to weigh the responses to determine the actual median or mean, or whatever method it used.



Title: Re: Preev - what does the name mean?
Post by: snipie on August 21, 2022, 10:36:03 PM
When two people say the same thing, at the same time, in a conversation, in real life, they say jinx.

When this happens online, it is called a preev. It is an online term that predates bitcoin. (urban dictionary)

I always figured this was the best site for current price because it was aggregated from several sources. Ideally the sources would say the same thing, and have a preev. Otherwise the site must have needed to weigh the responses to determine the actual median or mean, or whatever method it used.
I won't verify that since I really appreciated it. +1 merit :)
Since I mentioned that the site is down 12 days ago, I continued to check it everyday hoping to see it back. It is like a souvenir or dunno how to describe it exactly but the site is second important website after Bitcointalk in terms of cryptocurrency. I've been there daily for many years :'(
Preev.net is good @examplens, and should replace .com but as I mentioned it isn't compatible with all browsers yet.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: LTU_btc on August 22, 2022, 07:24:20 PM
If I haven't missed anything, you haven't made topic for Preev.net yet, so, I'll say few words here. Everything is great for start, and you're going to add more things in future. It would be good to add more Bitcoin units like mBTC. Also, maybe bright them would be needed too, though dark is probably preferred by majority.
BTW, I think that old Preev didn't had option to share link of custom BTC amount price. That's great.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: agentF on August 23, 2022, 01:31:12 AM
Hey Guys,

Announcement thread of PNNV.com

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410871.0

Would love to hear your feedbacks.  


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Husires on August 23, 2022, 03:15:59 PM
Can any third party pay for DNS hosting or does the site owner have to do it manually, and did anyone know or tell him about it?
I don't think the money is the problem it would easily find a generous donation here and what will happen it DNS hosting expired for a long time.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: bitmover on August 23, 2022, 04:20:44 PM
Hey Guys,

Announcement thread of PNNV.com

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410871.0

Would love to hear your feedbacks.  


to all preev lovers, and for those who are used to it and find it difficult to change their habits https://preev.net/ is online  ;)

so it's not a .com domain, it's a .net
there is also a different script (thanks to ETFbitcoin for the suggestion) which uses CoinGecko API for conversion


Só now we have 2 preev alternatives. I am impressed that you already have some solid traffic examples. How much traffic do you have already.?

I never understood why so many people use preev.com, but anyway it is amazing that you are getting a slice of that traffic.


Title: Re: Preev - what does the name mean?
Post by: Pmalek on August 24, 2022, 07:17:43 AM
Preev.net is good @examplens, and should replace .com but as I mentioned it isn't compatible with all browsers yet.
It works fine on Chrome and Firefox. I can see from your older post that you were talking about the new Preev site not working on the UC Browser. What is so special about this piece of software that you prefer it over all the others? It's exclusively made for mobile phones if I remembered it correctly.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on August 24, 2022, 10:35:49 AM
the whole thing about the preev.com page is becoming more than interesting to me. I did not expect this much popularity.

let me say right away, that the existing version of the preev.net site is not final, and the plan is to create a new one from scratch. I have some ideas on what needs to be changed, and what was missing on preev.com so I would like to make all those changes and complete the preev service.

that's why I opened a separate topic, in order to collect possible suggestions https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411037

Preev.net is good @examplens, and should replace .com but as I mentioned it isn't compatible with all browsers yet.

since a new version is planned, I really wouldn't waste time on something that is temporary. yes, of course it must be compatible with all browsers and screen sizes.

If I haven't missed anything, you haven't made topic for Preev.net yet, so, I'll say few words here. Everything is great for start, and you're going to add more things in future. It would be good to add more Bitcoin units like mBTC. Also, maybe bright them would be needed too, though dark is probably preferred by majority.
BTW, I think that old Preev didn't had option to share link of custom BTC amount price. That's great.

I started topic to collect all suggestion for now. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411037
I took your suggestions already  ;)

Só now we have 2 preev alternatives. I am impressed that you already have some solid traffic examples. How much traffic do you have already.?

I never understood why so many people use preev.com, but anyway it is amazing that you are getting a slice of that traffic.

in the first 12 hours there were about 200+ unique visits. This is before the first post I wrote here related to the announcement of the .net domain registration
I think that this domain was already registered once before, so it still has backlinks. but it is very strange that he was free, usually domain registries keep 5 letter domains due to resale.


Title: Re: Preev - what does the name mean?
Post by: snipie on August 24, 2022, 06:20:46 PM
Preev.net is good @examplens, and should replace .com but as I mentioned it isn't compatible with all browsers yet.
It works fine on Chrome and Firefox. I can see from your older post that you were talking about the new Preev site not working on the UC Browser. What is so special about this piece of software that you prefer it over all the others? It's exclusively made for mobile phones if I remembered it correctly.
Actually I use different browsers in my mobile (3 exactly) and in my laptop (2).
Why I am using this browser in particular for bitcointalk? Because I tried years ago many browsers to figure out the best one to display our forums the best mobile friendly way and that was the winner. It has also some side characteristics like replying, moving back then advancing again to continue replying without wasting what you wrote in your reply, clipboard and so on. Small things but useful :)


Title: Re: Preev - what does the name mean?
Post by: 100bitcoin on August 26, 2022, 08:31:58 PM
Preev.net is good @examplens, and should replace .com but as I mentioned it isn't compatible with all browsers yet.
It works fine on Chrome and Firefox. I can see from your older post that you were talking about the new Preev site not working on the UC Browser. What is so special about this piece of software that you prefer it over all the others? It's exclusively made for mobile phones if I remembered it correctly.
Actually I use different browsers in my mobile (3 exactly) and in my laptop (2).
Why I am using this browser in particular for bitcointalk? Because I tried years ago many browsers to figure out the best one to display our forums the best mobile friendly way and that was the winner. It has also some side characteristics like replying, moving back then advancing again to continue replying without wasting what you wrote in your reply, clipboard and so on. Small things but useful :)
Could you please tell me which browsers 100bit.co.in (https://100bit.co.in) is not compatible yet?


Title: Re: Preev - what does the name mean?
Post by: snipie on August 26, 2022, 08:43:15 PM
Could you please tell me which browsers 100bit.co.in (https://100bit.co.in) is not compatible yet?
It doesn't work for me on all browsers of my mobile phone although it worked in Firefox using this service https://www.browserling.com/ that allows you to test your website in several OS and browsers. It doesn't contains everything since it is free obviously. You can search for its alternative if you are interested in it


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: abdenn0ur on September 18, 2022, 01:27:11 PM
I hope the owner is well, Preev is hands down the easiest and most simple bitcoin ticker and converter out there.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: snipie on September 18, 2022, 02:04:33 PM
I hope the owner is well, Preev is hands down the easiest and most simple bitcoin ticker and converter out there.
Preev was down and it seems unlikely to see it again. We got used to see it down for few days before it gets fixed but the site is being down for 6 weeks tho this time.
There is alternatives for Preev and https://pnnv.com/ seems a good one and easy to remember.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Pmalek on October 02, 2022, 07:16:04 AM
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but preev.com is back up and working again. I tried accessing the site yesterday for the fun of it just to see what would happen and everything seems ok. The question now is, how many will go back using preev.com as their main reference to check BTC's current value, and how many will stick with any of the alternatives that were created in the meantime?


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: snipie on October 02, 2022, 09:23:55 AM
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but preev.com is back up and working again. I tried accessing the site yesterday for the fun of it just to see what would happen and everything seems ok. The question now is, how many will go back using preev.com as their main reference to check BTC's current value, and how many will stick with any of the alternatives that were created in the meantime?
Honestly, I am pissed with whatever is going on with preev every couple of months. You never know when it shutdowns, how long to wait for it to come back.. 0 information and notification which isn't acceptable and shouldn't be encouraged tho.
There isn't a single explanation anywhere about what happened lately no?
I will keep using pnnv and ask everyone here to support that project, at least OP there is making efforts to improve the site and hearing community propositions.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: hugeblack on October 02, 2022, 09:30:15 AM
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but preev.com is back up and working again. I tried accessing the site yesterday for the fun of it just to see what would happen and everything seems ok. The question now is, how many will go back using preev.com as their main reference to check BTC's current value, and how many will stick with any of the alternatives that were created in the meantime?

Some are willing to pay to buy that domain and it seems that the main developer doesn't have the time or resources to keep making it first so it's best for everyone to get more than one trusted developer access to that site.
In general, It is working on HTTP (not HTTPS,) and it seems that it will not last for long, as the same thing happened last time.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: Ultegra134 on October 02, 2022, 08:20:11 PM
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but preev.com is back up and working again. I tried accessing the site yesterday for the fun of it just to see what would happen and everything seems ok. The question now is, how many will go back using preev.com as their main reference to check BTC's current value, and how many will stick with any of the alternatives that were created in the meantime?
Honestly, I am pissed with whatever is going on with preev every couple of months. You never know when it shutdowns, how long to wait for it to come back.. 0 information and notification which isn't acceptable and shouldn't be encouraged tho.
There isn't a single explanation anywhere about what happened lately no?
I will keep using pnnv and ask everyone here to support that project, at least OP there is making efforts to improve the site and hearing community propositions.
I also noticed that Preev.com was functioning again, but without the security of the HTTPS protocol. However, I'll also stick to Preev.net or even Pnnv, which I haven't used since its debut. I understand that its developer was possibly going through some trouble, but it disappearing and resurrecting without any warning or announcement is frustrating. Its developer could at least make a public announcement through the forum. He definitely knew how handy the service was.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: agentF on October 02, 2022, 08:36:05 PM
I'm not sure the developer is even available. He has been using https://dnsmadeeasy.com/, whose focus is to keep your business alive by any cause.

I think they are the ones who saw the traffic coming from preev.com and decided to make the service alive again.


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on October 02, 2022, 09:00:00 PM
I'm not sure the developer is even available. He has been using https://dnsmadeeasy.com/, whose focus is to keep your business alive by any cause.

I think they are the ones who saw the traffic coming from preev.com and decided to make the service alive again.

I went a little deeper. I would say that preev.com is part of the business development of preev.pro. it seems that behind everything is a completely different business model, not just a free service at the service of the community.

Also, preev devs have certain complications with complexity and some APIs changes, probably this additionally affected the availability of the service.

This is from his Twitter profile: https://twitter.com/preev_/status/1471164221333262337?s=20&t=1VGY9mZgBpCvvvMdeZntwg


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: agentF on October 02, 2022, 09:44:49 PM
I'm not sure the developer is even available. He has been using https://dnsmadeeasy.com/, whose focus is to keep your business alive by any cause.

I think they are the ones who saw the traffic coming from preev.com and decided to make the service alive again.

I went a little deeper. I would say that preev.com is part of the business development of preev.pro. it seems that behind everything is a completely different business model, not just a free service at the service of the community.

Also, preev devs have certain complications with complexity and some APIs changes, probably this additionally affected the availability of the service.

This is from his Twitter profile: https://twitter.com/preev_/status/1471164221333262337?s=20&t=1VGY9mZgBpCvvvMdeZntwg

Could you elaborate on the business model part? I didn't get the idea.



Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: examplens on October 03, 2022, 12:44:07 PM
Could you elaborate on the business model part? I didn't get the idea.

For every pair added to live price monitoring, it is necessary to pay a certain amount. once someone funs a specific pair, it is active for all visitors. Active means showing real value.
it's an interesting concept, so coins with a stronger community can be listed on such a service.

Here is an example of a BCH/USD pair, where 10 weeks of showing the relationship of this pair cost $15.6.

https://i.ibb.co/x2X1ZT4/image.png (https://ibb.co/4FK8krQ)

p.s. I hope you will not think in this direction with your pnnv service.  ;)


Title: Re: Preev.com - DNS hosting service has expired.
Post by: agentF on October 03, 2022, 12:49:28 PM
Could you elaborate on the business model part? I didn't get the idea.

For every pair added to live price monitoring, it is necessary to pay a certain amount. once someone funs a specific pair, it is active for all visitors. Active means showing real value.
it's an interesting concept, so coins with a stronger community can be listed on such a service.

Here is an example of a BCH/USD pair, where 10 weeks of showing the relationship of this pair cost $15.6.

https://i.ibb.co/x2X1ZT4/image.png (https://ibb.co/4FK8krQ)

p.s. I hope you will not think in this direction with your pnnv service.  ;)

LOL i love this concept!