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Hey guys!

I have created a thread CPNpr Changed Hands? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410299.0)
On that thread, I noticed a guy named notscam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3461049) posted this on my thread;


I didn't have time to investigate this but later, I figured out whether he deleted the post or maybe moderators deleted the post.

Then I dug a little bit and it look suspicious to me.

Username: tomos81 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=895451)

The real Tomos was the founder of TomosMining - HIGHEST PAID MINING (BTC->FaucetHub) 5% REF! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2527462.0). He contributed to this forum in old days. The merit system wasn't introduced back then. He got 500 Merits from Airdrop and earned another two merits from his quality post. Right after the Introduction of merit and the End Of CPU/GPU mining of BTC, He completely disappeared from this forum. Because He was here to do business with his Mining service and he also took some loans back then.

This was his last post to this forum;


We don't know if he is alive or not.
He left some unique things. Using those things we can verify the account owner.
He has a website that is still up but not updated. http://tomostasks.website/ (http://tomostasks.website/) (Nudity inside)


He also signed a message from His Bitcoin wallet.


The real Tomos was posting On the Micro Earning Section for His Mining Service

https://i.postimg.cc/FRvdZXym/Screenshot-87.png

and he never posted in Bounty Section. Maybe the account was bought by a bounty hunter. He posted several times on the bounty section.

This account is woken up on 25/05/2022 and changed the password on 28/05/2022

https://i.postimg.cc/4xbrdrJq/Screenshot-88.png

Right after waking up, He started Posting on the Gambling discussion thread. Meanwhile, He also started to apply on Signature campaigns and Bounty Campaigns. Quoted some posts for references (I didn't quote bounty posts because the threads are locked);



He also applied to the Stake Signature campaign without answering the primary question  ;D


Since then, he started posting on the Gambling discussion board. He made 25 Posts in the last 24 hours only on the gambling board (More than ChartBuddy. ChartBuddy Post only 24 times a day)

Seems like he was accepted on the Stake Signature Campaign. But, I was unable to find a Spreadsheet of signature campaign participants.
@Carollzinha (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=377601), Would you mind letting me know if he was accepted or not?

The rest is in your hand guys.

Thanks to notscam
Regards!

This is an interesting case worth following

The website redirects to gaysfinder.life (NSFW) I am not sure if that was the owner's intention  ;D

To prove that he is the original owner of the account, he should be summoned to sign a message from this address or else I think it will be safe to assume the account changed hands

I have seen the spreadsheet and can confirm that he was accepted in the signature campaign.

Thanks for pointing out. I would never know if it’s possible to use same domain for different purposes. Just remove S from https and you will be on main website. Http will lead you on the main website. But, https redirects to some random NSFW website. Would you mind edit and fix?


Right. Based on my information, Do you believe the account changed hands? Or Let's wait for him?

Interesting, once you succeed with the first case then you seem very motivated to catch more other users who might just change their password for security, change their posting habits just to qualify for the campaign or something. I can't jump to conclusions for all the evidence you said, maybe he has changed hands and is sold but maybe he just started something new to earn a few dollars from the signature campaign.

The problem is, you have to give him chance to speak up and prove ownership of his account for while, that can be done by signing message from the bitcoin address he once used.

You can expect him to sign messages from this address:

How about if you miss and give wrong information? he can proof with sign message and give valid document about account not changed hands, will you ask apologize and never make catch any more? will DT give OP bad reputation and not allowed catch and make investigating again?

Habit post from mining to gambling board because he joined with signature Stake and need make post on gambling board.

It's same as CPNpr who was official representative of CompuCoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737271.0). There's no other way to prove the account's legitimacy other than asking a signed message from the above bitcoin address. But this is certainly a case of account trading. It’s very much likely that it's hacked account. I'm tagging the account for now. Will remove if he can provide a signed message.

He has informed Via PM about this thread. He is supposed to respond to this thread. It's been over 24 hours and no reply to this thread nor in PM.

Do you know how a defendant avoids fatal guilt when asked to prove something? Yes, they will ignore the request but they are active everywhere to post something. We basically have no right to force someone to respond to anything we suspect about them, including signing messages or anything like that. But if these defendants want to neutralize the situation so that people no longer doubt it then they will come to respond.

However, if you have valid evidence to say that the account has changed hands regardless of how it happened, then I just want you to be able to prove it. without needing to tell them about it. After all, you also don't have much evidence at this time to determine that the account has changed hands, but if you have any doubts about them, post neutral tag so you can avoid dealing with them in the future.

Why don't you think so? The original Tomos was a genius guy. He was an owner of a Sportsbetting website and owner of a mining service. Do you believe such a guy needs to participate in a bounty campaign? This guy tried to join in various bounty campaigns right after waking up. The real Tomos are never posted in the Gambling section. This guy started posting only on the Gambling section and is not interested in any other part of the forum. The writing style changed, Wake up after an extended period, Password changed.

Then how can you never think otherwise when the economy and inflation have bankrupted some non-popular businesses and left them with no income? Covid-19 has destroyed a large part of the economy but is quickly starting to grow and improve, but inflation has forced people to earn more even though they actually have primary jobs.

I've said that one can change quickly when they need money ^{[remember this one], (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=418797)} but one can always doubt that accounts change hands regardless of whether they are sold or hacked. You can tag them with evidence, but I'm not going to pull out a gun quickly until I have valid evidence. You know? i have to get lot of valid evidence before tagging another user as guilty and i mostly do it myself instead of having a DT member investigate it. I've gained some valuable experience before, so maybe I'll be little cautious.

I personally wouldn't let him be part of altcoin signature campaign let alone BTC campaign. That @tomos81 is an utter gambling board shitposter, mostly writing about stuff that he obviously knows nothing about and its disappointing to see that he is getting paid for that drivel.


What has to happen for someone to regress in terms of English as it happened with @tomos81? People usually get better and here we have the opposite. Just compare his post history before he woke up few months ago and now and you will see the difference. To be fair, person that was behind this account up until 2018 obviously didn't care much about punctuation etc but his English was obviously better than what it is now and changing posting so drastically is a huge red flag.

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@Crypt0S0ul  I think that you are onto something here and for now I am leaving neutral feedback that might change to negative in the future.

Perhaps the person in charge of screening new applicants into the stake campaign isn't keen enough, but there's nothing much we can do since it's their money. If it's gambling board shitposters they prefer to pay, then that's up to them. It's their loss.

But on the side change of account ownership, I am also going to mark then since the accused hasn't bothered to come around and prove to as that they are still the same owner.

I just checked, and you are right about the change. I've also previously told the OP that neutral tags are a viable solution to his doubts before things are decided wisely. I didn't mark the OP ^{[negative/neutral]} because I guess he will come to cheer for some reason or maybe by proving ownership of his account. If it did change hands, then I wouldn't mind if someone or more people shot it a red tag.

Apparently this is changing fast, LOL.

https://i.imgur.com/tkKcux9.png

It's sellers market at the moment as there are more spots in bitcoin signature campaigns that there are decent posters, which results with shitposters like @tomos81 being able to enter the campaign. Bar to enter keeps lowering for some time (I would say for the last two years) or so so we can expect more and more similar shitposters being able to enter campaigns,


He did contact me via PM, asking me to reconsider my tag (I mistakenly gave him negative which I changed to neutral) so he is well aware of this thread but for whatever reason decided to ignore it (most likely because he is guilty as charged).

Good Morning Sir, Actually I have been taking a break from this account for a long time due to my several problems. I faced several dollar trading losses last few months but mine You have to join this forum again to run the family. In this situation I joined a signature campaign where I used to earn money by posting but because of my negative feedback the signature I was rejected from Campion. I would strongly request you to remove your negative feedback

Good Morning Sir.

In the unlikely event that the garbage story you are telling is true, you would have a very easy way to prove it: sign a message from the address:

1DnWG7sL7yWekSS11nZsNNnxyWrwtHNYRs

In this way, Sir logfiles, Sir JollyGood and the others that have left you negative feedback, would realize that they had made a mistake and would delete the feedback.

He he he. Savage Poker Player!

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Update from Carollzinha. tomos81 was kicked from the signature campaign (that wasn't my goal). But, Those shit posters don't deserve to be in the signature campaign.

He just wrote me two PMs, with the same content, within five minutes of each other.

I won't reproduce the PMs here, but he basically says he is the same person and has lost access to the address to sign the message with.

Deep down I feel a little sorry for him.

But we see a lot of cases on the forum of wanting to take the fast track to make money, and that's not how things are done.

In this forum you can earn money by being a decent person, without cheating, without buying accounts. There are countless examples of this.

This is what account buyers are counting on. While you feel sorry for him, he continues to writhe like a "snake in a pan" and use all methods, from impudence to humiliation. 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404539.msg60805776#msg60805776

In fact, using all methods costs them nothing. Some particularly compassionate members of this forum argue by defending purchased accounts as accounts that do no harm to anyone as long as they are not involved in financial transactions. But on the other hand, we can see how real users work diligently to increase their rank. Why should we pity these liars?

Sir you can believe me without doubt, I am not lying. I am the actual owner of this account. It's kind of oppressive to me. I beg you not to make me a liar. Please remove my feedback if you know but don't call me a liar. Finally I thank everyone. 😭😭😭😭😭

If you really are the owner of this account registered in 2016, then I'm sure you won't be begging just to expect some people to remove negative tags on your profile. I just believe you have to be brave enough to prove the fact that this is not an account that changes hands, so prove ownership and you will be safe from these accusations.

For one reason, I should also tag you neutral to serve as a warning to me and other users.

You know, I've been doing a lot of post history reviews for members lately and I've noticed there are a ton of shitposters in the gambling sections--not everyone I've reviewed posts for, but many of them.  I get that some campaigns pay for posts only in that section, but it's easy to tell if people are passionate about betting or even know what they're talking about within seconds of reading some of their posts.

You haven't seen savage yet, bro.

Sir, you are a fucking shitposter who should go out into the real world and earn a living for your family instead of polluting this forum with your shitty-English nonsense.  You're not going to find any support whatsoever unless you can sign a message from that address, which I've no doubt you can't do because you're a desperate, lying shitposter.  Certainly not the first one we've seen pull this kind of garbage, and I doubt you'll be the last.  Hope you didn't pay too much for that account.

You know the drill, boss. Just sign a message from the mentioned old bitcoin addresses that were posted through the account and my negative will be gone. It's that simple.

Imagine how the other person whose account was stolen or hacked so that it gets sold to you is feeling.

Okay. I know he is lying. I know he is not the real owner. Suppose he really lost access to the address. Let's ask him to make any changes to his website which is still up and running.

Okay, Sir! Can you make any changes to your website, which is still up and running? Can you please remove all the nudes from your website?

I believe the account was purchased at a fairly expensive price. it can be seen from his concern regarding his current case.
and now it looks like he's done. if he couldn't prove it, no one would ever believe him.

but maybe he will go back to the seller of another account and repeat his case like this. it will only waste the money and enrich the account seller.

Yes, they all use the same strategy.


Actually, you are right. We shouldn't.


Without knowing for sure how much he has paid, I think it would not be an amount that would seem very high at first glance to us, but for someone from a poor country with low purchasing power, as Sir tomos81 seems to be, it will be.

He received payment for 1 week ($87) before getting removed. I think the stake team removes the users on a case by case basis. Users like Jkoil (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5404539.0) continue to get paid. Maybe because they feel he posts in a way they like. Anyway, it's their decision, and we just have to respect it.

I didn't mean to participate in this topic because it seems to me that things are quite clear, but today I received a PM from tomos81 in which he asks me to help him (although he was not clear in what way). Considering that at that time I was quite active in Micro earnings, I remember him and some of his projects like VirtualPub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1690973.0) which was extremely popular at that time.

From my memories of those days, I don't remember tomos81 ever using the term "Sir", and apparently it's not the same person although I'd like him to prove otherwise. The original owner of the account was, in my memory, a very good and honest person.

Okay. My reputation doesn't exist in this world.

But, Mr. tomos81, Can you please explain this?


When and where I demanded money from you?

It's obviously retaliatory feedback because you exposed his account. Do you think you can reason with such a person

Just ignore it, after all it's under untrusted feedback. Members should expect to receive such from pissed off chaps.

I do not regard any negative tag without reference. They are just baseless allegations.

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Crypt0S0ul, what has happened to your reputation? I remember when you will create multiple threads in reputation, exposing some cheaters and asking if it is right to expose accounts that changed hands from 2018.

What really happened and how did it happen?
I remember speaking in favour of naim027 to be unbanned by the moderators because of his quality posts;

I also remember  Dic3L0v3r is the alt created to appeal naim027 ban;

AnotherAlt was an account that experienced quick growth.

Crypt0S0ul was obviously the one I didn't trust for a second,  because it was so obvious it was an alt of a frustrated user.

But what really happened? And how did it happen so fast?

It all started here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416864). If you read through the whole thread, you will know what happened.

KingsDen, what happened to your logic?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2851213
Don't you see the link reference? ;D

I have, it was a total drama of crime, sincere efforts, forgiveness, crime again, denial, acceptance, confession, peace of mind, sincere efforts turn fruitless and reputation dent.

My logic was failing me, so I wanted to hear from the horse's mouth ;D.

I saw the reference link, I was referring to a particular tag left by tomos81 accusing Crypt0S0ul of scamming them $1000 without reference.