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Title: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: odunybiz on September 08, 2022, 04:54:42 AM
Everyone loves to become a successful being but success definition differs for everyone. Most people see success as being fame and rich. Although money is a huge driving factor for a lot of things and an ultimate measuring stick for whether or not a business is successful but this doesn't fully define success. Success is about claiming and speaking up for what is important to you. Consider these and tell if they are successful

👉👉a rich and a famous man with a broken home
👉👉a rich and a famous man that has failed to impact on others.
👉👉a money corrupt rich and famous man
👉👉a ritualist with great fame.

Although this people are rich and famous but aren't successful at my own part. There is always a shortcut to riches and being famous but success comes through hardwork. There are many rich and famous people who have attempted suicides in their life. If being rich is being successful, then what made them to take such disastrous steps? Sanjay Dutt is a son of a famous politician and is one of the richest celebrities, Sunil Dutt. Still, he is behind lock-up. Is this what we call as success? Many gangstar becomes rich out of crime and corruption but they are not successful in our society. This is part of what causes increasement in crime rate and corruption in the world as everyone want to be rich so as to be called a successful being. A successful man is one who finds his purpose and creates a life where he can fulfill that purpose.

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: noorman0 on September 08, 2022, 05:24:34 AM
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Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
But is there anyone who really achieves satisfaction?
When people reach one stage of success, they will try to achieve another (greater) success. That's how people define their own non-constant success goals, where they reach a higher point then they will find new thoughts that affect the goal. And changing the financial aspect for the better is the majority of their success goals.
Uncontested.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Oasisman on September 08, 2022, 06:24:46 AM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

Ok, let me jump into your conclusion.
Yes, it's not always the money or fame that determines your success. It is indeed happiness and satisfaction. HOWEVER, happiness is somehow tied with money and humans are naturally born to be dissatisfied (consistent technological advancements and new inventions are the huge evidence of it). 
Now, IMO success has a different levels and it doesn't stop at some point, It continues until your body are no longer able to pursue the next level of your success in life.
Let's say you just graduated, got a college degree - that's called success right? Because you satisfied your desire to finish your study. Let's start there as level 1. Next level would be getting your dream job, and then getting your own business, then expanding it over and over again. I always believe people is never satisfied with what they currently have. You might be feeling satisfied at some point in your life, but the next morning you'll realize you still have desires to reach the next level of your success.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: naira on September 08, 2022, 06:37:36 AM
Speaking of relative success for me. Success is when simple things we no longer forget how to make people around us happy with the results of our hard work. Success is not only about finances, because for me like the piece of the story you shared above, the fact is also that money does not guarantee happiness and cannot buy happiness. Happiness grows from someone's emotional expression when what he hoped for a long time is achieved and gives positive feedback to the people around him. Success in the sense here will vary, career, family, and success like me are given the trust to have more offspring.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Leviathan.007 on September 08, 2022, 08:12:58 AM
Definition of success can be different depending on the person and depending on their situation for most people will call themselves successful if they can achieve their goals and desires and these goals and mostly related to money. in other definition, people this a rich man is a success while having money is all and money won't bring anything itself if you ask me I would say I'm fighting for success and there is no limit for me, even if I have lots of money and happy family and fame and become a famous man still we will fight for success because there is no limit for it.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Fortify on September 08, 2022, 08:35:56 AM
Everyone loves to become a successful being but success definition differs for everyone. Most people see success as being fame and rich. Although money is a huge driving factor for a lot of things and an ultimate measuring stick for whether or not a business is successful but this doesn't fully define success. Success is about claiming and speaking up for what is important to you. Consider these and tell if they are successful

👉👉a rich and a famous man with a broken home
👉👉a rich and a famous man that has failed to impact on others.
👉👉a money corrupt rich and famous man
👉👉a ritualist with great fame.

Although this people are rich and famous but aren't successful at my own part. There is always a shortcut to riches and being famous but success comes through hardwork. There are many rich and famous people who have attempted suicides in their life. If being rich is being successful, then what made them to take such disastrous steps? Sanjay Dutt is a son of a famous politician and is one of the richest celebrities, Sunil Dutt. Still, he is behind lock-up. Is this what we call as success? Many gangstar becomes rich out of crime and corruption but they are not successful in our society. This is part of what causes increasement in crime rate and corruption in the world as everyone want to be rich so as to be called a successful being. A successful man is one who finds his purpose and creates a life where he can fulfill that purpose.

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

It seems a lot of younger people these days are seeing "streamers" as a desirable profession, it used to be footballers which at least had a athletic skill angle to it. Success is about claiming and speaking up what is important to you? Eh? Not really, there are a lot of people who spout a lot of garbage who are successful, it doesn't make them good or productive people who are benefiting society - in many cases they are helping to spread hate and division because it's easier than solving difficult problems. People should definitely focus their time and energy on the things that the like, because they're most likely to produce something valuable to others in that way.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Rockstarguy on September 08, 2022, 09:14:03 AM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
Many people have their different definition of success,  some people  believe success is success, it doesn't matter how it comes.
But to me the main definition of success is anything that can be achieved by merit. In life success different phases, and the end product of success in life is to be able to afford the necessary things life requires as a man.

From the early stage of life we pursue education and if it is well achieved then we can call that success,  the next stage of life is to go after our different career that can be means for survival,  no matter the amount of money it brings  it is success as far as it keeps man going.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: imamusma on September 08, 2022, 09:20:57 AM
First, congratulations because the +1 merit from me has made you rank up to a member.


CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
Success is not always about how much you have, how rich you are but actually what can be said to be successful is when you succeed in achieving what you target. Success is only the last point of every target, it can be many things because in my opinion what can make you satisfied with the results is real success.

You can't be satisfied just because you have the intention to build a house, but you will feel satisfied when your intention is proven by building a house so that you can live in the house. Success is subjective, it's not all about big things but the small things that you manage to achieve can also be categorized as success.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Republikcoin.com on September 08, 2022, 10:14:59 AM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
I personally see money as a tool or a bridge to success by getting Satisfaction and happiness as you mean it. In this case I slightly agree with your statement that money and fame are not the only benchmarks for success. But believe me that someone will not be famous if he is still poor and someone will also find it difficult to get satisfaction and happiness if the money is still small.

So there is another conclusion that you must underline here is "money never guarantees someone to be successful, but people who success is definitely having money and also happiness in his life. And when these two things are already in one's life, then Satisfaction and Fame will easily come to him even though every human being is very difficult to be satisfied because it is influenced by his own lust.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: davis196 on September 08, 2022, 10:34:58 AM
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CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

Success is being measured with money, wealth and social status since the beginning of the human civilization. This will never change.
Who are you to say what should and what shouldn't be measured as success?
Happiness and satisfaction are something relative. Some people will never be satisfied and happy until the end of their lives.
99% of the people link success/satisfaction/happiness with having enough money to live a comfortable life.
Having more money means that you could get a high quality woman as a girlfriend/wife(I'm not talking about a gold digger/sugar daddy type of relationship). The consumerist imperative and the biological imperative are kinda connected to each other.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: sunsilk on September 08, 2022, 10:39:10 AM
The definition of success is subjective and it differs from person to person where you're asking it. Go in the remote and poor areas and neighborhood and ask them what is success to them, they'll quickly say that success is all about money, fame and riches.

But go to the rich neighborhood where people are already successful and ask them what is success about them, they'll say different answer such as healthy living, long life, happy and complete family and other things that they can be seen in the poor people.

That's why there will be a lot of description when you describe what success is and it will vary on the situation that you're currently sitting.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Betwrong on September 08, 2022, 11:37:40 AM
~ Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. ~

It depends on what brings you satisfaction and happiness. For example, having a lot of money, you can pay for education of poor but talanted people, and some of them can achieve great success in one field or another. Will that make you happy?

In short, if contributing to society in a positive way makes you happy, then money can buy satisfaction and happiness.

Also, I disagree with this statement of yours, "Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams." Your dreams can be different in different periods of time. Your childhood dreams may seem stupid today, and achieving them can make your life worse. And the things you are dreaming of now may make you shudder ten years later.

Since a few years ago, when I need an answer I ask Google, and mostly satisfied with the results. Look at this one, for instance:

https://i.imgur.com/eR3tw0O.png

I have nothing more to add, they said it all. :)


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: so98nn on September 08, 2022, 11:38:08 AM
In practice, success is really personal thing. For everyone its different. Who knows someone may live their house, relatives and friends to go far beyond and earn heck lot of money to live a lavish life somewhere on a private island? That might be success for someone. On the other hand, someone is happy and considers themselves successful if they made a good family, average living without any headache of financial stress and stuff like that. Its entirely personal thing these days. However, those who think what others will think about them and run for getting success just because of what others will say then that's entirely wrong protocol to live a life! For me none of them matters. All one should be worried about is happy life, a good family, friend circle and be enjoying without any fakism.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: DrBeer on September 08, 2022, 02:04:37 PM
Success and achievement go far beyond money, recognition, wealth and status.
You can have billions, but be absolutely not happy. Someone, on the contrary, having received 100 dollars becomes happy and shares this happiness with others! Manifestations of happiness and success can take a completely unusual form - give birth to a child, get an education, cure parents, build your own business, get a place in the company you dreamed of, visit all continents, learn a new language, .... I would not limit this question the entities you specified :)


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Yatsan on September 08, 2022, 03:16:42 PM
Depends on your perspective or extent of looking into what does 'success' means. Many people would say Fame and Money defines success, but to some people, it simply means you are better than your previous self or you are at the phase of your life wherein you can do, buy, and enjoy things you did not experience before. Also there are people who views it as a state of happiness; less worried, and peacefully living. There are many ways to view such word, it just depends on what kind of people you are or what you've been through. At the end of the day we all have different sotries to tell but inspite of having different paths toward success, we are all, for sure, aiming for that thing.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Despairo on September 08, 2022, 03:24:51 PM
I think everyone have different way to define their success. But for me, my success is when I can help any people that need help and when my life or appearance is useful for everyone. Although I can't deny money, fame and achievement are a big thing that most everyone want to achieve it, but many people can easily forget you when your fame or achievement aren't helping people. It's different if you're a big contributor on your country, you might become a legend on your country.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Rruchi man on September 08, 2022, 03:35:01 PM
Success and achievement go far beyond money, recognition, wealth and status.
Exactly, although money, recognition, wealth and status can be good measures of success, it is not success itself. Currently the biggest way people quantify success is by financial gain (money), this can be misleading as money can still be gotten without aim and purpose achieved. Hence, you cannot say it success because it does not agree with definition of success according to oxford which defines success as the "accomplishment of aim and purpose".


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: erep on September 08, 2022, 03:44:17 PM
The main word success, these words are relatively multi-definition depending on personal opinion to assess aspects of success based on their respective life journeys, success in my opinion is the achievement of motivation to work hard to achieve dreams from childhood to adulthood to have everything that has been expected and everything for happiness with family.

I've reviewed some of the responses to the post above to represent "the meaning of success" in tabular form.


But what world leaders think about success, the average opinion of their responses is beyond expectation, so pay attention to what they have to say about success:
  • Bill Gates, "Success is a lousy teacher. It seduces smart people into thinking they can't lose."
  • Winston Churchill, “Success is all about going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm.”
  • Thomas Edison, “Genius is 1 percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration,”
  • Warren Buffett, "Success is having people love you that you want to have love you"
  • . . .  more



https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/06/28/success/
https://www.quora.com/Inspirational-Quote-What-did-Bill-Gates-mean-by-Success-is-a-lousy-teacher-It-seduces-smart-people-into-thinking-they-cant-lose
https://www.americanexpress.com/en-us/business/trends-and-insights/articles/defining-99-part-one-1/
https://www.azquotes.com/quote/1205899


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: virasisog on September 08, 2022, 03:45:15 PM
Success might be too broad for others but for me, success is just being happy. We could have money, fame, and lots of achievements but still not be happy. For me, the true definition of success is contentment and gratefulness for the things that we have. We might not have a perfect life but if we're grateful, we will be able to appreciate the simple things that we have achieved. It's fine to chase for our dreams but we should still focus on the things that would make us happy.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: kryptqnick on September 08, 2022, 03:49:39 PM
I think success should be measured based on the goals a person had, and success can be very different for different people. For example, I watched a video some time ago about a boy from my developing country who has Down's syndrome. He was really into history and his family had to argue for him to be allowed to pass general entrance examination to the university (our version of SAT). He was allowed to take the test, he scored high enough to get a scholarship to a pretty good university (in my country, scholarships are purely based on the grades you get), and during uni he also became a guide in a local museum. To me, this is a huge success because a person had serious obstacles, definite goals, and succeeded in overcoming obstacles and reaching the goals.
For some spoiled healthy rich kid getting into uni and doing some internship at a museum wouldn't be anything, though, and wouldn't be much of an achievement. So it's not just about the actions, it's also about what it takes for a person to get there.
I also agree with the op that success shouldn't just be about money or fame: IMO if one wants to build a healthy strong relationship with someone else and does that, it's also a great success.
As for objective things, I think we should focus on things that are making the world better or at least aren't making it worse when we talk of people as successful.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: skarais on September 08, 2022, 07:28:04 PM
Success is subjective, it's not all about big things but the small things that you manage to achieve can also be categorized as success.
There are many meanings of success that we can read and understand because success is the last ladder of every effort you make. I agree that it's not always about the big things, but the small things that we can achieve also include success. But if success is associated with economic status, then I believe the richer you are, the more people will say you are successful even though you are never satisfied.

Intention - effort - success. 2 out of 3 is the process, while the last one is the result. This means that success is the result of a process that you do that begins with intention and effort. Whatever that is.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: yhiaali3 on September 08, 2022, 07:43:22 PM
I agree with you on this point. Real success is contentment and acceptance. It is not necessary to have a lot of money and be rich in order to get happiness. The important thing is to be satisfied with what you have achieved in your life and this is the measure of success, but this varies from person to person, some It is enough for him to get his needs and the needs of his family to feel satisfied, but others want to get cars, real estate and a lot of money to feel satisfied, and others do not feel satisfied even if they have great wealth and keep asking for more.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: DrBeer on September 08, 2022, 08:17:55 PM
Success and achievement go far beyond money, recognition, wealth and status.
Exactly, although money, recognition, wealth and status can be good measures of success, it is not success itself. Currently the biggest way people quantify success is by financial gain (money), this can be misleading as money can still be gotten without aim and purpose achieved. Hence, you cannot say it success because it does not agree with definition of success according to oxford which defines success as the "accomplishment of aim and purpose".

I agree!
Regarding money, I will repeat one thought, I consider it one of the key ones for the modern community. It sounds like this: "Money is a wonderful SERVANT, but the most disgusting OWNER." Because of this, money cannot be the goal of life ... More precisely, you can bring yourself to the state that money is the only measure of success, status and so on, but this is primitivism.
But the presence of "a large number of good helpers" in the form of money can be an indicator that everything is going well for a person, he achieves his goals, life brings satisfaction. But this is not a mandatory indicator of success :)



Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: imamusma on September 08, 2022, 08:29:10 PM
Intention - effort - success. 2 out of 3 is the process, while the last one is the result. This means that success is the result of a process that you do that begins with intention and effort. Whatever that is.
I agree with your explanation, I seem to think. I once said that success is subjective because I think the results will differ from one person to another. Apart from money, I also think that someone can be successful when they reach the expected target.

For example about crypto, when someone manages to achieve a short term target or a long term target for their investment then I think they are successful people. Back again to the basics, success is subjective from one person to another.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: coolcoinz on September 08, 2022, 09:06:26 PM
What I've learned is you always have to sacrifice something for your success. You either won't have a stable partner, or won't have children, or will have children but you won;t have any connection with them, or you won't have friends , only subordinates... You can't have everything.

I have a few friends with different material status and I can tell you that those who have less money and a nice home feel better. I even have a friend who doubled his pay in exchange for a harder, more demanding work. After a year he's thinking of switching jobs again to something where he'll earn less but have more free time. You need to keep things balance or or you'll burn out too fast.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Silberman on September 08, 2022, 10:18:37 PM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
This is a very important topic, it is very common that people let others decide what is success for them and how it should look like, and this is a big mistake, the only one that should define what success means for you is yourself, because no one knows as much as you do about yourself and what are you expecting out of your life, so by letting others define what success means for you you're giving them an incredible amount of power in your life, which is why there are so many people that outwardly may look to be incredibly successful and yet they are living lives of quiet desperation.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Captain Corporate on September 08, 2022, 10:23:51 PM

This is exactly why I always define it as "happiness". It doesn't mean any of the money or fame or achievement or success, it means if you are happy then you are doing the right thing. I understand that it could mean that you could be famous and be happy, that means fame is the answer for you, or you could be not famous but rich and be happy and that would be yours, or you could be none of these and be happy then it must be something else. As long as you are happy, that means you did something right and nobody else told you what to do, you did it yourself and found the thing that made you the happiest in the world.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: autumnleaf on September 09, 2022, 02:06:50 AM
Success is typically defined as achieving everything for which you strive hard and produce positive outcomes and I think the genuine definition of success is living a life of contentment, good health, and being loved. Success, in my opinion, is not just about wealth and recognition.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: dark1234 on September 09, 2022, 02:25:16 AM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
success is a word full of dreams that must come true and feel peace in the heart who finds it and those who are close to him will also feel it
whereas a satisfaction is an imagination full of unlimited obsession and approaches to a greed and avarice
I myself assume that successful people are people who feel happy and at ease when they see other people feel happy and peaceful, people who can benefit others, not take advantage and take advantage, if so then the person will be satisfied with the achievement of life as an honorable human being. in the eyes of the world and remembered as a hero who will always be a story


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Davidvictorson on September 09, 2022, 02:47:18 AM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

In different societies and cultures, success can mean different things to different people. I'll concentrate on it means to be in several African civilizations where social media doesn't dictate the norm. Following personal conversations with certain west African chiefs, the following is what success looks like:
  • having the largest herd of yams, flock of sheep, and goat herd
  • having more than two or three spouses
  • having a sizable family home and a sizable compound for the kids to play in
  • having a sizable domestic staff
In several tribes of West Africa where social media doesn't dictate norms, this is the most basic definition of success.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Smack That Ace on September 09, 2022, 02:56:56 AM
When we talk about success, we often think of people who have a lot of money, a house, a car, and a stable job. But for me, success is when we accomplish a certain goal in life that we have set and in life we have many different goals to achieve.

We can earn a lot of money but we don't have good sleep, rush meals, hustle life because we don't have time, that's not success. Success is only when we feel satisfied and happy with what we have, not necessarily with too much money.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Shasha80 on September 09, 2022, 04:01:14 AM
When we talk about success, we often think of people who have a lot of money, a house, a car, and a stable job. But for me, success is when we accomplish a certain goal in life that we have set and in life we have many different goals to achieve.

We can earn a lot of money but we don't have good sleep, rush meals, hustle life because we don't have time, that's not success. Success is only when we feel satisfied and happy with what we have, not necessarily with too much money.

It's true that success can't be judged by money, because people who are successful in life are people who can live happily. Rich people who have
a lot of money sometimes their lives are not happy, because happiness cannot be bought with money. That's why a rich person is not necessarily
successful if he has not found his happiness. I think as long as we can be grateful for our present life and not be jealous of what other people have.
Those are all characteristics of successful people, so actually being successful can be achieved by anyone. Therefore, don't be too bothered with
other people's lives, we just think about our own lives. Because people's life goals are different, so everyone's success will also be different.
For now I feel myself successful, because I have everything I need in life, it all makes me happy in the end. So find our own happiness, then we will
get success. Because we ourselves know what can make us happy in life.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Zlantann on September 09, 2022, 04:04:35 AM
I think success should be measured based on the goals a person had, and success can be very different for different people. For example, I watched a video some time ago about a boy from my developing country who has Down's syndrome. He was really into history and his family had to argue for him to be allowed to pass general entrance examination to the university (our version of SAT). He was allowed to take the test, he scored high enough to get a scholarship to a pretty good university (in my country, scholarships are purely based on the grades you get), and during uni he also became a guide in a local museum. To me, this is a huge success because a person had serious obstacles, definite goals, and succeeded in overcoming obstacles and reaching the goals.
For some spoiled healthy rich kid getting into uni and doing some internship at a museum wouldn't be anything, though, and wouldn't be much of an achievement. So it's not just about the actions, it's also about what it takes for a person to get there.
I also agree with the op that success shouldn't just be about money or fame: IMO if one wants to build a healthy strong relationship with someone else and does that, it's also a great success.
As for objective things, I think we should focus on things that are making the world better or at least aren't making it worse when we talk of people as successful.
Thank you for this great explanation. I also read an account of a man that spent many years manually making irrigation for his community to have access to water. This poor subsistent farmer gave all his best towards this project and after many years the community got water because of his exploits. Materialism is now the order of the day. Now in my country, we see the youth having insatiable lust for luxury.  This is because society has thrown morality and good behavior into the waste bin and now people celebrate riches regardless of the means it was acquired.

As a parent and teacher, I always tell my children and student that the quality of life is not determined by how much you are worth financially but by how much you are worth morally. It is better to live modestly than to defraud, kill and do all kinds of nefarious things because of riches or famous. I can provide for my basic needs and have extra to contribute to my community, I consider myself rich. I set goals for myself and when I achieve these little tasks I celebrate them. Sometimes my little contribution helps my community greatly and they come and appreciate my effort. Fame will always come if you add value to yourself, your family, and your community.   


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: adzino on September 09, 2022, 04:25:42 AM
Everyone loves to become a successful being but success definition differs for everyone. Most people see success as being fame and rich. Although money is a huge driving factor for a lot of things and an ultimate measuring stick for whether or not a business is successful but this doesn't fully define success. Success is about claiming and speaking up for what is important to you. Consider these and tell if they are successful

👉👉a rich and a famous man with a broken home
👉👉a rich and a famous man that has failed to impact on others.
👉👉a money corrupt rich and famous man
👉👉a ritualist with great fame.

Although this people are rich and famous but aren't successful at my own part. There is always a shortcut to riches and being famous but success comes through hardwork. There are many rich and famous people who have attempted suicides in their life. If being rich is being successful, then what made them to take such disastrous steps? Sanjay Dutt is a son of a famous politician and is one of the richest celebrities, Sunil Dutt. Still, he is behind lock-up. Is this what we call as success? Many gangstar becomes rich out of crime and corruption but they are not successful in our society. This is part of what causes increasement in crime rate and corruption in the world as everyone want to be rich so as to be called a successful being. A successful man is one who finds his purpose and creates a life where he can fulfill that purpose.

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
I guess success would be what makes you feel happy and complete? You can have all the money, but if you aren't happy, you aren't successful. You might have lot of fame, but if you don't have any money and struggle day to day which will make you unhappy, then you have failed to be successful. The same thing, you got an achievement, but no one recognizes it and you have no fame at all, and if that makes you unhappy, you failed.

Success isn't tied to anything, but your own happiness.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Cookdata on September 09, 2022, 05:46:48 AM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

One thing money, it brings people around you which brings you power, fame and respect but sometimes but these doesn't equate to being happy, it is possible to have all the money in this life and still battle with health problems, look at Chadwick Bossman who acted Blackpanther, he had the fame, not too rich but he was more than average and he was been paid well enough but what happens at the end of the day, he died of cancer because it is something money cannot do.
Look back when Barack Obama was the president of America, we all know how famous and fame as being the most powerful man in the world but his daughter then was making the media of drug abuse and failed to raise happy children, sometimes we can not control these things.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: crwth on September 09, 2022, 07:09:08 AM
With everything that is happening in our lives, it's always going to be about trying to convince each other that this is the kind of success that we all want. But it's different for every person and the upbringing of people.

There's also a factor that you can be successful at a particular time, like graduation. You are victorious and fulfilled at that time, but it's not always going to be forever, that feeling of "success" you feel when graduating. It is a part of you already, and it will be on to the following reason to fill your "success feelings."

We can talk more about how people tend to get a rejection, like how you will handle it and process the following. Many people say a lot of their failures before their success, and that's going to be a part of you as well. What you are going to do with it is going to be how your attitude will be


Title: Ucc
Post by: Rockstarguy on September 09, 2022, 09:41:23 AM
Success and achievement go far beyond money, recognition, wealth and status.
You can have billions, but be absolutely not happy.
What may seems to be success to Mr A can be different thing to Mr B that cant be seen to consider to be success. I think what ever can makes us feel a goal is accomplished is success. To some persons to get rich can be a goal and if it is accomplished it can be considered to be success,  success is beyond money, it is a goal in life that's is not just achieved easily. Their is no particular achievement that can be pointed out to be success,  success comes in different forms.



Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: BRINIRHA on September 09, 2022, 10:14:49 AM
true success for me is when i am able to achieve my dream and can enjoy it with my family. and able to share with others. create a harmonious life and make my life colorful and full of happiness. because actually we have a dream is because we think that if our dream is achieved then we will be happy. so success for me is happiness. because the hard work we do to achieve something is because we expect happiness in it.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: rahmad2nd on September 09, 2022, 01:59:41 PM


CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

Overall what you convey in this thread has a good point. but what is interesting to me, have you reached the conclusion as you said, and then get the satisfaction and true happiness that you define as success.
IMO, in reality humans will never achieve true happiness and absolute satisfaction, they are only temporary in the cycle of human life.

Speaking of success, everyone has a different perspective in interpreting success, it can be defined through marriage, fame, successful education. however, as you said, everyone will agree that money is an indicator as the main measure of success.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Obito on September 09, 2022, 02:17:13 PM
Your conclusion in my opinion is the ultimate truth, the people who are well off and have a lot of money doesn't want to admit it though because money buys you a lot of stuff and they are way too deep into the material world that they can't or won't admit it no matter what. Contentment is a stuff of wonder that many people just pass by without knowing most of the time.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: agustina2 on September 09, 2022, 02:58:58 PM
Success to me is something that I feel financially stable and my source of income is solid for a long-term period.

It's not about having your own big house, cars, expensive stuff, and everything.

Those things I have mentioned are rewards for being smart and hard working wisely. :)


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: savetheFORUM on September 09, 2022, 08:04:53 PM
Everyone loves to become a successful being but success definition differs for everyone. Most people see success as being fame and rich.

There is always a shortcut to riches and being famous but success comes through hardwork.
No not everyone wants to become successful but many of us are already contented on our basic life and we don't want to push more for some reasons. It could be that we lack of resources to achieve the real thing that we want. If someone wants to take a shortcut to get the things that they want, then that is still considered as a success but it looks inappropriate to others. The feeling is still the best if we exert a hard work.

👉👉a rich and a famous man with a broken home
👉👉a rich and a famous man that has failed to impact on others.
👉👉a money corrupt rich and famous man
👉👉a ritualist with great fame.

Although this people are rich and famous but aren't successful at my own part.
On your own part yes because maybe you have your own definition of success but for their part they can say that they are already successful. While the first example is not likely, I mean with all the money that they have, they will also use it to build a good house.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on September 09, 2022, 08:52:48 PM
The Op is right to the great extent, the society we live in today needs to be educated on what being successful is all about, because I belive we have missed it, and its part of the reason why we have a high rate of crimes.
People now believe that being successful is all about having alot of money, having a multi million dollar businesses, driving flashy cars, living In mansions and maybe being famous, this indeed is the wrong definition of being successful, and this has drove many of our youths and men into all sort of crimes likes stealing, occultism, rituals, drug and human trafficking.
Being successful is more of your achievements(not material achievements) and accomplishments, how you have impacted your family, friends, community, country, the world and your generation.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Kelvinid on September 09, 2022, 08:53:30 PM
I would say I was successful when I was able to reach my goal depending of what really it is.
Money - that can be when you are financially stable but if we talk about fame, that is unless if you really need it. But for me, I don't need fame or being popular with the public, as long I was able to provide for the needs of my family and own a business, I was certainly happy with that. That can be called a little achievement that most people don't have.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Ultegra134 on September 09, 2022, 08:54:58 PM
Accomplish your goals and dreams, find your passion and stick to it, and the rest will come on their own. Success doesn't necessarily have to be defined by money or fame. I'm yet to find something to be passionate about, and it's going to be my main goal for the upcoming years. I will only call it a success if I end up discovering it and am able to make a living out of it. It doesn't have to involve expensive cars or houses, but living comfortably enough to not worry about making ends meet.

Unfortunately, most of us simply stick to the usual way of living, working a job we may hate till retirement. This way of living doesn't involve experimenting, being passionate and adventurous, but slowly eats you away, entering a vicious cycle of depression. Honestly, my ideal scenario would be to become a digital nomad and explore the world, but it sounds too good to become a reality.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: indah rezqi on September 09, 2022, 09:00:20 PM
I can define success as an achievement, certainly not always about money because I think it will vary a lot. I just got promoted to become a member of Sr some time ago, it's also a success that I can feel while in this forum. So success is not always about money and big things, it can also be like small things that can make you feel happy.

Success according to experts is when you reach the end point of your intention, but of course it must go through various processes in which there are obstacles that must be passed. The process can mean learning, trying, to sacrificing something that ultimately we achieve success. Success is a result, I think it's true.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: milewilda on September 09, 2022, 09:04:44 PM
Accomplish your goals and dreams, find your passion and stick to it, and the rest will come on their own. Success doesn't necessarily have to be defined by money or fame. I'm yet to find something to be passionate about, and it's going to be my main goal for the upcoming years. I will only call it a success if I end up discovering it and am able to make a living out of it. It doesn't have to involve expensive cars or houses, but living comfortably enough to not worry about making ends meet.

Unfortunately, most of us simply stick to the usual way of living, working a job we may hate till retirement. This way of living doesn't involve experimenting, being passionate and adventurous, but slowly eats you away, entering a vicious cycle of depression. Honestly, my ideal scenario would be to become a digital nomad and explore the world, but it sounds too good to become a reality.
Some do even go out on their passion and go into other path as long they could able to make money and achieve financial freedom then most of us would definitely be doing this despite of being out of our
preferences but as much as possible we would really be sticking on things on what we do like or want as long you could able to do so and people would really be just going out of their comfort zone
whenever they do experience out some sort of interest nor even discourage on particular conditions or situations.Success could really be having different form but in overall it would still boils
up on having money and some does have those 3 things which it would really be just standard on living a comfortable life if ever you do reach out these things.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: blockman on September 09, 2022, 11:34:45 PM
I would say I was successful when I was able to reach my goal depending of what really it is.
Money - that can be when you are financially stable but if we talk about fame, that is unless if you really need it. But for me, I don't need fame or being popular with the public, as long I was able to provide for the needs of my family and own a business, I was certainly happy with that. That can be called a little achievement that most people don't have.
Me too, I don't need fame or to be recognized. I just want a simple living where I can define being success in my own terms. Like having my own peace, stable income and career, good health and long life, that's it.
Very plain and simple and that's what I'm thriving to achieve because that's what I understand about life. If I'll be lucky to make a huge profit out of holding bitcoin then that's a bonus!


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Viscore on September 09, 2022, 11:41:35 PM
-snip-
Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
But is there anyone who really achieves satisfaction?
When people reach one stage of success, they will try to achieve another (greater) success. That's how people define their own non-constant success goals, where they reach a higher point then they will find new thoughts that affect the goal. And changing the financial aspect for the better is the majority of their success goals.
Uncontested.
Unfortunately, no one gets satisfaction from all the successful achievements of a person. I think that's human nature, that once you achieved your goal now, you will set another goal for yourself tomorrow, and the same thing follows everyday.

For me, although being rich and famous is also my goal, but i think going beyond like helping those who are needy from my multi sources of income will leave more impact and creates more chances of self-satisfaction.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: AmoreJaz on September 09, 2022, 11:50:09 PM
-snip-
Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
But is there anyone who really achieves satisfaction?
When people reach one stage of success, they will try to achieve another (greater) success. That's how people define their own non-constant success goals, where they reach a higher point then they will find new thoughts that affect the goal. And changing the financial aspect for the better is the majority of their success goals.
Uncontested.
Unfortunately, no one gets satisfaction from all the successful achievements of a person. I think that's human nature, that once you achieved your goal now, you will set another goal for yourself tomorrow, and the same thing follows everyday.

For me, although being rich and famous is also my goal, but i think going beyond like helping those who are needy from my multi sources of income will leave more impact and creates more chances of self-satisfaction.

peace and contentment is priceless but there will always be something that we want to achieve being human on this earth. that is right, we usually don't achieve satisfaction because we want more after we achieve our targets. i guess, that's part of being a human. for now, my goal is just to be contented for what i have and live with it. would be stressful if i want something that is not possible with the situation that i am in right now.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: lixer on September 10, 2022, 05:00:49 PM
true success for me is when i am able to achieve my dream and can enjoy it with my family. and able to share with others. create a harmonious life and make my life colorful and full of happiness. because actually we have a dream is because we think that if our dream is achieved then we will be happy. so success for me is happiness. because the hard work we do to achieve something is because we expect happiness in it.
I bet you are already successful with your life because your goal is only easy to achieve and that is happiness. You can be happy when you play or bond with your family and it doesn't require a big effort or a capital/money. If what you want is to give or share your blessings to the other people, you can always do that and again there is no need for you to acquire a big amounts of cash but you should only choose the people that you will lend a help because not all are willing to receive small gifts but they will sometimes complain and backstab you once you leave. Those people are so ungrateful but don't worry, they won't be blessed next time.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: jrrsparkles on September 10, 2022, 05:01:55 PM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

Before jumping into conclusions first I need to know that everyone has to be successful? What happens if they're not?

I do agree with the measures of being successful in today's society but its is not really necessary to keep ourselves pushing to new limits all the time to feel we arr successful and satisfied, just live the life to the fullest is more important than reaching the status called success and you know success and failures are part of the life but it will never exist forever.


Title: Re: Ucc
Post by: DrBeer on September 10, 2022, 06:35:16 PM
Success and achievement go far beyond money, recognition, wealth and status.
You can have billions, but be absolutely not happy.
What may seems to be success to Mr A can be different thing to Mr B that cant be seen to consider to be success. I think what ever can makes us feel a goal is accomplished is success. To some persons to get rich can be a goal and if it is accomplished it can be considered to be success,  success is beyond money, it is a goal in life that's is not just achieved easily. Their is no particular achievement that can be pointed out to be success,  success comes in different forms.

I agree, but with a caveat. The problem is that sometimes money earned as a result of development and productive work is confused with stinginess and hoarding.
In the first case (success, where money has become the evaluative essence of the effectiveness of their owner) - this is the right example.
The second option is when a person accumulates for the sake of money itself, this is not correct.
Someone will ask the question - what's the difference? The result is the same - a lot of money? I explain - for a really successful person - money is one of the tools that help him achieve his next goals. For the second, it is the very purpose of life and the highest value.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: dothebeats on September 10, 2022, 06:48:16 PM
Success for me is having my name recognized as a principal author on some scientific papers. I have a long way to go, and it will take a long time before I get there. But sure enough after that I'll be proud of myself and wouldn't ask for more. Money is something that I'm receiving in generous amounts every month, and if I wanted to, I can live lavishly and purchase a lot of luxury things for myself. I don't find any enjoyment in that, although a lot of people would surely use that as a measurement of success. To each his/her own, at the end of the day.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: teosanru on September 10, 2022, 06:53:48 PM
Everyone loves to become a successful being but success definition differs for everyone. Most people see success as being fame and rich. Although money is a huge driving factor for a lot of things and an ultimate measuring stick for whether or not a business is successful but this doesn't fully define success. Success is about claiming and speaking up for what is important to you. Consider these and tell if they are successful

👉👉a rich and a famous man with a broken home
👉👉a rich and a famous man that has failed to impact on others.
👉👉a money corrupt rich and famous man
👉👉a ritualist with great fame.

Although this people are rich and famous but aren't successful at my own part. There is always a shortcut to riches and being famous but success comes through hardwork. There are many rich and famous people who have attempted suicides in their life. If being rich is being successful, then what made them to take such disastrous steps? Sanjay Dutt is a son of a famous politician and is one of the richest celebrities, Sunil Dutt. Still, he is behind lock-up. Is this what we call as success? Many gangstar becomes rich out of crime and corruption but they are not successful in our society. This is part of what causes increasement in crime rate and corruption in the world as everyone want to be rich so as to be called a successful being. A successful man is one who finds his purpose and creates a life where he can fulfill that purpose.

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
Happiness! That is the only thing that decides how successful you are, for a person born in a slum, getting a decent job in the city and owning a house is all that he can aspire of and could give him utter happiness, for him this is a success. For someone else, let's say who was born in a very big home already success might be starting venture of his own. So success can be relative, fame can also be relative for various people. One should always search for what keeps them happy and when they are able to find what keeps them happy only then they will be able to say that they are successfull.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: lalabotax on September 10, 2022, 09:50:55 PM
I can define success as an achievement, certainly not always about money because I think it will vary a lot. I just got promoted to become a member of Sr some time ago, it's also a success that I can feel while in this forum. So success is not always about money and big things, it can also be like small things that can make you feel happy.
I really agree with you, friend. Success doesn't always imply having a lot of money, being more popular, or getting a promotion in our office. Having many friends in this forum and getting a rank up on our account, are also a form of success. I also dream to rank up to a Senior Member someday, that is one of the goals of my success in this forum. In addition, can be a part of my current signature campaign, which is also a success for me.  :)



Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: goaldigger on September 10, 2022, 09:57:44 PM
I define success if you are already happy and contented, no matter how much money you have or no matter what your achievement is. Having a peace of mind is a big success, you can achieve this in many ways and it’s not all about money all the time. Many are very successful because they are able to balance life, they have the freedom to control their own time and use it for their own satisfaction. I wish to have this freedom someday, where I don’t need to work all day.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Oilacris on September 10, 2022, 09:59:30 PM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

Before jumping into conclusions first I need to know that everyone has to be successful? What happens if they're not?

I do agree with the measures of being successful in today's society but its is not really necessary to keep ourselves pushing to new limits all the time to feel we arr successful and satisfied, just live the life to the fullest is more important than reaching the status called success and you know success and failures are part of the life but it will never exist forever.
We know that human beings doesnt really easily get contented even if they had already possessed out those things which most people doesnt able to attain which it is really not bad but dont make yourself
ending up on being greedy.
Success might really be in form of fame or achievement and money would really be just a standard because if you do have those both things then it would be understandable that you would be having the money.
Its true that not all do really end up on being successful no matter how hard they do work on but doesnt mean that we should stop thriving because nothing beats out if you do have that mindset
on improving your life.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: 2stout on September 11, 2022, 12:11:15 AM
Success is so much more than money and isn't money in and of itself.  I would say to look at money as the base because once the financials are in order, it's much easier to focus on and give more time everything else- family, friends, etc.  However, it's hard to be successful without money.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on September 11, 2022, 06:42:40 AM
Oddly enough, for me, none of the three. For me it would be more the internal locus of control, that you are able to cope with circumstances by thinking about what you can do or what you are capable of rather than thinking of yourself as a victim.

If I had to necessarily choose one of the three, it would be money, but mostly because it is the measure of society, and it tends to go hand in hand with the other two. Someone who is famous is someone who earns money, that's one thing that goes hand in hand, and with regard to achievement, in general, it goes hand in hand.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Republikcoin.com on September 11, 2022, 09:56:05 AM
Success is so much more than money and isn't money in and of itself.  I would say to look at money as the base because once the financials are in order, it's much easier to focus on and give more time everything else- family, friends, etc.  However, it's hard to be successful without money.
The benchmark for success is different for everyone, because people whose lives still look simple in the eyes of others can also be said to be successful as long as they don't have debts or loans that they have to pay off every month. And every income earned can be directly enjoyed for every need they need, because they live without any pressure on them.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: sayaya17 on September 11, 2022, 03:15:50 PM
Success is so much more than money and isn't money in and of itself.  I would say to look at money as the base because once the financials are in order, it's much easier to focus on and give more time everything else- family, friends, etc.  However, it's hard to be successful without money.
The benchmark for success is different for everyone, because people whose lives still look simple in the eyes of others can also be said to be successful as long as they don't have debts or loans that they have to pay off every month. And every income earned can be directly enjoyed for every need they need, because they live without any pressure on them.

It's true that being a successful person doesn't have to be rich, people who live simply and can feel happy, in my opinion are successful people.
Moreover, being able to live without having debt seems to be the desire of many people, but unfortunately with the bad economic situation,
most people would find it difficult to live without debt. So who can live without debt, in my view people it can be said to be successful.
Even I have a rich friend but he doesn't feel happiness in his life, because my friend is very busy and much time is spent working, he lost his time
with his family because he spent too much time working. Finally my friend feels lonely in his life, which for him success can live happily with his family.
So the definition of success is different for everyone. In my opinion, success is if I can live happily with my family and can meet all the needs of
my family's life.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: livingfree on September 11, 2022, 03:29:31 PM
The benchmark for success is different for everyone, because people whose lives still look simple in the eyes of others can also be said to be successful as long as they don't have debts or loans that they have to pay off every month. And every income earned can be directly enjoyed for every need they need, because they live without any pressure on them.
That's all about freedom, they're just living life to the fullest without worrying of those debts or any obligation that they have to pay. Well, they pay bills but it's not a problem for them because it's always been part of our lives. Yeah, those people that might have less in life but are living debt-free and can manage to eat three or more times a day can be said of being successful.

It is a normal way of living and not that much to ask for with life.

No pressure, more freedom and yes, that's a successful life.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: jrrsparkles on September 11, 2022, 05:00:34 PM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

Before jumping into conclusions first I need to know that everyone has to be successful? What happens if they're not?

I do agree with the measures of being successful in today's society but its is not really necessary to keep ourselves pushing to new limits all the time to feel we arr successful and satisfied, just live the life to the fullest is more important than reaching the status called success and you know success and failures are part of the life but it will never exist forever.
We know that human beings doesnt really easily get contented even if they had already possessed out those things which most people doesnt able to attain which it is really not bad but dont make yourself
ending up on being greedy.
Success might really be in form of fame or achievement and money would really be just a standard because if you do have those both things then it would be understandable that you would be having the money.
Its true that not all do really end up on being successful no matter how hard they do work on but doesnt mean that we should stop thriving because nothing beats out if you do have that mindset
on improving your life.
Exactly, the failure or success will not be a permanent thing, it's just the moment in everyone's life so we have to pass it with the experience and lessons which can be happy or sad depends on what we expected to achieve.

Still at the end of the day we should feel we are here to make things happen, with the positive mindset towards the goal will certainly help us to get there sooner or later.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Silberman on September 11, 2022, 09:14:41 PM
The benchmark for success is different for everyone, because people whose lives still look simple in the eyes of others can also be said to be successful as long as they don't have debts or loans that they have to pay off every month. And every income earned can be directly enjoyed for every need they need, because they live without any pressure on them.
That's all about freedom, they're just living life to the fullest without worrying of those debts or any obligation that they have to pay. Well, they pay bills but it's not a problem for them because it's always been part of our lives. Yeah, those people that might have less in life but are living debt-free and can manage to eat three or more times a day can be said of being successful.

It is a normal way of living and not that much to ask for with life.

No pressure, more freedom and yes, that's a successful life.
Exactly, I know a lot of people that when you look at them they may seem to have it all, they have the house, the cars and every other status symbol that you may imagine, but when you look at how they live their lives and how they feel about it you can see that they are not really happy, in my case I am doing reasonably well when it comes to the economic aspect, but one of the things that make me the happiest is that I know that I could get fired tomorrow and I'll not be in huge trouble to pay my debts, because I have none, so this makes my life very carefree.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: inthelongrun on September 12, 2022, 10:23:30 AM
Being successful for me means happiness. It doesn't require much for me to become happy. I want to do what I love to do which means I want to earn money for the things that I love. It's becoming common, especially in poor and developing countries that people work for the sake of earning a living. That is why it is very important for people and parents to find their and their children's natural gifts and skills in order to develop and enhance them because that should be the basis of their careers.

Money- Earning a lot of money is just a bonus for me so I can help those in need.
Fame- I don't need this. I am a private person. Sometimes I help people and I always want to make it private as much as possible.
Achievement- Define achievement. When I'm happy with my life it already means I achieve something which is more valuable that the other kind of world achievements. The ultimate achievement of course is to help those in need even in simple ways. So my definition of achievement might be different from other people who perceive it as some rewards or medals and trophies and recognitions.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: qwertyup23 on September 12, 2022, 05:54:47 PM
Success is relative which can be defined in various of ways. For example, a rich man would suggest that he is successful if he earns around millions of $$$ in his pocket; while an average worker in a third-world country may define success as having to provide with his family while saving at least money for emergency purpose.

People nowadays are too focused on getting rich, which is not entirely wrong. But they have to understand that everything has to start from somewhere. Every person must persevere and learn from all their mistakes in order to avoid the pitfalls that most people have experienced.

Just like in cryptocurrency, understanding the market and learning all the aspects may give you a chance of becoming successful but it is in no means an absolute formula of getting one rich.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: EdenHazard on September 12, 2022, 06:55:56 PM
The benchmark for success is different for everyone, because people whose lives still look simple in the eyes of others can also be said to be successful as long as they don't have debts or loans that they have to pay off every month. And every income earned can be directly enjoyed for every need they need, because they live without any pressure on them.
That's all about freedom, they're just living life to the fullest without worrying of those debts or any obligation that they have to pay. Well, they pay bills but it's not a problem for them because it's always been part of our lives. Yeah, those people that might have less in life but are living debt-free and can manage to eat three or more times a day can be said of being successful.

It is a normal way of living and not that much to ask for with life.

No pressure, more freedom and yes, that's a successful life.
To those who choose money , i won't blame them ... i just think that having that mindset in your head without any knowledge or experience to manage the money will become the recipe of the disaster.
No matter how much money you have , if you just spend it for your short time pleasing without thinking how to grow it while you buring the money into something expensive unnecessary , i won't called it as a success.

Living life that you said above are the true successful life in my point of view , based on my fame , achievements and bunch of shitty money experience. That's it.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: serjent05 on September 12, 2022, 08:40:44 PM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

You cannot be happy if you can't afford your family's needs.  Having prosperity also gives happiness and satisfaction to a family.  There are lots of broken family because it lacks the money to buy their needs.  Often times relationship becomes sour when financial struggle happens in the family.  I agree that we shouldn't prioritize fame and money over our family but we must make sure that our family has enough finances for everyday needs.


To me success is money - that is it.
Once you have money - you are successful. The poor person is always struggling. And there is no denying that money gives you power. So work hard to have a lot of money. You can buy anything. Except honesty.

Well, that is pretty simple-minded ;D but I respect that.  I would rather have prosperity than money alone.  :P


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: livingfree on September 12, 2022, 08:44:59 PM
The benchmark for success is different for everyone, because people whose lives still look simple in the eyes of others can also be said to be successful as long as they don't have debts or loans that they have to pay off every month. And every income earned can be directly enjoyed for every need they need, because they live without any pressure on them.
That's all about freedom, they're just living life to the fullest without worrying of those debts or any obligation that they have to pay. Well, they pay bills but it's not a problem for them because it's always been part of our lives. Yeah, those people that might have less in life but are living debt-free and can manage to eat three or more times a day can be said of being successful.

It is a normal way of living and not that much to ask for with life.

No pressure, more freedom and yes, that's a successful life.
Exactly, I know a lot of people that when you look at them they may seem to have it all, they have the house, the cars and every other status symbol that you may imagine, but when you look at how they live their lives and how they feel about it you can see that they are not really happy, in my case I am doing reasonably well when it comes to the economic aspect, but one of the things that make me the happiest is that I know that I could get fired tomorrow and I'll not be in huge trouble to pay my debts, because I have none, so this makes my life very carefree.
That's one good assurance to yourself if you're having that mindset that no matter what happens with your job, you're already set with your life and there's nothing to worry about.

I think you've got a lot of confidence because of the assets that you have and that includes bitcoin and other altcoins that you're probably holding.

Plus having no huge debts where you can really sleep well at night and not forced to hustle that much.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: RockBell on September 12, 2022, 09:26:43 PM
nice post Most people mistake being successful for being wealthy and famous. People will go to any lengths to acquire wealth for a variety of reasons, including oppression or either way. However, successful people don't pursue wealth; instead, they identify problems and develop solutions. This is what separates successful men from those who are after wealth.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: serjent05 on September 12, 2022, 09:39:34 PM
nice post Most people mistake being successful for being wealthy and famous. People will go to any lengths to acquire wealth for a variety of reasons, including oppression or either way. However, successful people don't pursue wealth; instead, they identify problems and develop solutions. This is what separates successful men from those who are after wealth.

People have their own goals and endeavor.  So being successful is subjective.  It depends on what a person prioritizes or aimed.  A person can be said successful if he meets his goal.  By meeting his goal and dream, happiness occurs, may it be money, fame, family, skills, talent, or whatever they aim for.  So you cannot say that pursuing wealth and achieving it does not mean being successful.  By the definition, being successful means accomplishing aims and purposes [1]

Those who do not aim for wealth can be said to be contented with whatever financial status they have, they may be successful or not.



[1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/success


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: TimeTeller on September 12, 2022, 09:58:26 PM
nice post Most people mistake being successful for being wealthy and famous. People will go to any lengths to acquire wealth for a variety of reasons, including oppression or either way. However, successful people don't pursue wealth; instead, they identify problems and develop solutions. This is what separates successful men from those who are after wealth.

People have their own goals and endeavor.  So being successful is subjective.  It depends on what a person prioritizes or aimed.  A person can be said successful if he meets his goal.  By meeting his goal and dream, happiness occurs, may it be money, fame, family, skills, talent, or whatever they aim for.  So you cannot say that pursuing wealth and achieving it does not mean being successful.  By the definition, being successful means accomplishing aims and purposes [1]

Those who do not aim for wealth can be said to be contented with whatever financial status they have, they may be successful or not.


[1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/success

A nice explanation regarding the term success. And this is indeed a very subjective matter.
It depends on the individual goals in life and for him, the definition of success depends on those goals.
We can't impose to people how they will define their success as we have different ambitions in life.
Some are just happy to eat 3 meals a day, just remember that. So yes, this is based on someone's goals in life.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Vaskiy on September 12, 2022, 10:29:03 PM
My inner mind decides my success. From an outsiders view my success will be connected to the money I hold and the luxury I enjoy. Success is not only about achieving,  it is about fulfillment. Very few get fulfilled, and when we achieve something and if we're fulfilled then it is the success according to me.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: carlfebz2 on September 12, 2022, 10:46:11 PM
nice post Most people mistake being successful for being wealthy and famous. People will go to any lengths to acquire wealth for a variety of reasons, including oppression or either way. However, successful people don't pursue wealth; instead, they identify problems and develop solutions. This is what separates successful men from those who are after wealth.

People have their own goals and endeavor.  So being successful is subjective.  It depends on what a person prioritizes or aimed.  A person can be said successful if he meets his goal.  By meeting his goal and dream, happiness occurs, may it be money, fame, family, skills, talent, or whatever they aim for.  So you cannot say that pursuing wealth and achieving it does not mean being successful.  By the definition, being successful means accomplishing aims and purposes [1]

Those who do not aim for wealth can be said to be contented with whatever financial status they have, they may be successful or not.


[1] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/success

A nice explanation regarding the term success. And this is indeed a very subjective matter.
It depends on the individual goals in life and for him, the definition of success depends on those goals.
We can't impose to people how they will define their success as we have different ambitions in life.
Some are just happy to eat 3 meals a day, just remember that. So yes, this is based on someone's goals in life.
Im with this or totally accurate that each one of us does have particular goals in life which does simply means that neither of those options where people would be minding.Whether focusing much on money making,

some might really be that mindful on having their careers do even progress and its true that there are ones who are just contented on what they do have currently but its impossible that a person
who doesnt really have wish or goals in life.

It is really just there are things which do really blocks out those kind of opportunities on making ourselves better.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Finestream on September 12, 2022, 11:42:51 PM
The definition of success is subjective and it differs from person to person where you're asking it. Go in the remote and poor areas and neighborhood and ask them what is success to them, they'll quickly say that success is all about money, fame and riches.

But go to the rich neighborhood where people are already successful and ask them what is success about them, they'll say different answer such as healthy living, long life, happy and complete family and other things that they can be seen in the poor people.

That's why there will be a lot of description when you describe what success is and it will vary on the situation that you're currently sitting.
True. You can never tell a person is successful when he has all the riches and fame, simply because not everyone has the same thinking and life’s goals. For all we know, success does not matter until we hit our life’s satisfaction. But the sad reality is no one gets satisfaction in life no matter how successful he is. I think that’s a human nature, but as long as we chose to be more happy and grateful in all our achievements, that what matters the most.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: awik p on September 13, 2022, 06:20:10 AM
The definition of success is subjective and it differs from person to person where you're asking it. Go in the remote and poor areas and neighborhood and ask them what is success to them, they'll quickly say that success is all about money, fame and riches.

But go to the rich neighborhood where people are already successful and ask them what is success about them, they'll say different answer such as healthy living, long life, happy and complete family and other things that they can be seen in the poor people.

That's why there will be a lot of description when you describe what success is and it will vary on the situation that you're currently sitting.
True. You can never tell a person is successful when he has all the riches and fame, simply because not everyone has the same thinking and life’s goals. For all we know, success does not matter until we hit our life’s satisfaction. But the sad reality is no one gets satisfaction in life no matter how successful he is. I think that’s a human nature, but as long as we chose to be more happy and grateful in all our achievements, that what matters the most.
the main point is to be grateful and try to get what we aspire to. Everyone will of course have their own problems and will be different. therefore we must be able to understand ourselves in order to determine what steps forward we dream of. and please know that not every desire we want will be achieved, as long as we have tried in earnest, then we must be able to be sincere. Therefore, as humans, of course, we have understood the purpose of life from when we were young, so we can focus on the path we are going through


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Gallar on September 13, 2022, 07:25:16 AM
Many people think that success is having a lot of money and possessions, indeed the majority are like that, but if you go deeper, actually success is happiness and satisfaction, I'm sure everyone has a different definition of success, maybe there are those who feel successful when they have a lot of wealth, there are those who feel successful when they can help people, and if for example money is used as a measure of success it's not wrong as long as feeling satisfaction and happiness means it's success, because basically all success leads to satisfaction and happiness.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Uruhara on September 13, 2022, 10:41:19 AM
Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
The highest desire in life is to find happiness. the creation of a dream and ideals is because we think that when the dream is achieved then we will be happier.
we seek money and hope to be happy with money.
but actually Happiness is simple. that is, be grateful for what you have. Enjoy every moment in life with gratitude. but do not be prejudiced against those who work hard to earn money. because they actually have their own satisfaction and happiness when working hard to earn money.
because sometimes achievement can bring happiness. so work hard to earn money but with gratitude. because if there is no gratitude then happiness is hard to come by.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on September 13, 2022, 11:01:16 AM
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CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
If you could observe the five fingers you could notice they weren't created equally which means that in this life you cant ever have all you wished for, because success could mean different things to different individuals. To some it could mean making money money, to others it could mean getting to the top his educational career, while to others it could be living a happy and peacefull life


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Pierre 2 on September 13, 2022, 12:16:46 PM
I think I generally define success with achieving great things and making money over those achievements. I never believed money alone is achievement. You could have 10000 Bitcoin but you may be overweight and can't move so money buys you nearly nothing unless you lose weight.
I love popularity/fame honestly because it brings you more and more women but it must be accepted that women are also not the most important thing in life. Most important thing is to achieve yourself and feel happy about it.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: LastKiss on September 13, 2022, 01:38:01 PM
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CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

I agree many people who have a lot of money and have great fame still didn't satisfy and not being grateful for what they have, maybe they have a lot of money but they didn't take care of themselves so they have problems with their health which make them spend a lot of money for the hospital. Also having a lot of money can bring us big stress if we can't control it we end up throwing our money to have fun or something.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Betwrong on September 14, 2022, 08:49:31 AM
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True. You can never tell a person is successful when he has all the riches and fame, simply because not everyone has the same thinking and life’s goals. For all we know, success does not matter until we hit our life’s satisfaction. But the sad reality is no one gets satisfaction in life no matter how successful he is. I think that’s a human nature, but as long as we chose to be more happy and grateful in all our achievements, that what matters the most.

It is a human nature, indeed. In fact, we, humans, have evolved to be like this.

When I was a little kid, my life goal was to surround myself with chocolate and eat it all the time. I thought I didn't need anything else. Fast-forward to a grown-up man who can actually afford that kind of living, but it turns out that he needs much more than that. ... We are never fully satisfied, and it's a good thing. That's why we have progress, the constant improvement of the world around us.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Questat on September 14, 2022, 11:12:10 AM
I think I generally define success with achieving great things and making money over those achievements. I never believed money alone is achievement. You could have 10000 Bitcoin but you may be overweight and can't move so money buys you nearly nothing unless you lose weight.
I love popularity/fame honestly because it brings you more and more women but it must be accepted that women are also not the most important thing in life. Most important thing is to achieve yourself and feel happy about it.
And it was important that we are too thankful for what we get even though it was just a small achievement in life. It is just to say that not all of us make things like this, some are hopeless and remain dreaming. So whatever we want in life, money/riches, popularity, all of these comes by working hard and of course, we are motivated to do it. Because success is a reward for what we did and it comes momentarily.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: ChiBitCTy on September 14, 2022, 06:43:24 PM
For me success all comes down to happiness.  I think the measure of ones success truly comes down to their personal level of happiness. Like you mention there's a whole lot of people with a lot of money that are absolutely miserable.  So to me success is doing something you at least enjoy, and being happy in your personal life.  You could be financially poor but very happy, and to me that person is still highly successful.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: rby on September 14, 2022, 08:33:33 PM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

Being successful is different for many people and different environments and it is based on understanding of different people.  I can say that to some people, being successful is when they have the money to buy whatever thing they wish to buy in this world. To them that is success.  There are people who married good wife and have a good family and they will tell you that they have peace of mind and they are therefore successful. It is totally different from many people due to their personal understanding and behaviour.
But in them all you cannot remove money, a financially poor man cannot say he is successful. Money answers everything.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: iv4n on September 14, 2022, 09:21:38 PM
For me success all comes down to happiness.  I think the measure of ones success truly comes down to their personal level of happiness. Like you mention there's a whole lot of people with a lot of money that are absolutely miserable.  So to me success is doing something you at least enjoy, and being happy in your personal life.  You could be financially poor but very happy, and to me that person is still highly successful.

I can't agree more with you here... It's all about how we feel through the day, are we happy or grumpy?! With money, everything is easier we all know, but sometimes satisfaction comes from little things, with what we can afford at that moment! Fancy dinner or pizza in some park with good friends?!

A lot of money goes when you have a family to support, but I still have some money for the things I like, so for me, that's a success. Never too much, but enough to be comfortable and enjoy life!


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Russlenat on September 14, 2022, 09:28:18 PM
Success to me is something that I feel financially stable and my source of income is solid for a long-term period.

It's not about having your own big house, cars, expensive stuff, and everything.

Those things I have mentioned are rewards for being smart and hard working wisely. :)
For we are living in this world which considers money as the most vital and become very necessary in a person’s life, then it’s always important that we should be financially stable at all times. And just thinking of this, I end up feeling secured and contented. So even if I don’t have luxury things in life, as long as I don’t live poorly, then that makes me happy and successful in life.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: South Park on September 14, 2022, 10:01:51 PM
It's fine to reach our goals and dreams but we should also be grateful for the simple things that we have. Sometimes we only need to appreciate the things that we have and the simple things that we achieved for us to determine what real success is. There will be moments when we will be chasing our dreams without noticing that we're already successful in our way. It isn't all about money or getting rich but also living a simple yet happy life.
It is also important to be very careful with what we set as our goals, I say this because there are people that are very driven and that will stop at nothing at getting what they want, and while this may seem to be a good trait they do this by sacrificing other very important factors in their lives, like their personal relationships or even their health, and if that's the case then what's the point of reaching those goals if you are going to be all alone and sick? In that case it would have been better to set yourself smaller goals which still allowed you to keep your personal relationships and health.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Fatunad on September 14, 2022, 10:51:19 PM
Success to me is something that I feel financially stable and my source of income is solid for a long-term period.

It's not about having your own big house, cars, expensive stuff, and everything.

Those things I have mentioned are rewards for being smart and hard working wisely. :)
For we are living in this world which considers money as the most vital and become very necessary in a person’s life, then it’s always important that we should be financially stable at all times. And just thinking of this, I end up feeling secured and contented. So even if I don’t have luxury things in life, as long as I don’t live poorly, then that makes me happy and successful in life.
Everything can be bought by money even some say that money isnt everything but its really hard to make yourself that happy if you do live a life which does have less specially in needs plus having those wants
then it would be impossible that you could really not able to see on whats the main difference.Some might be that contented to having that 3x meal a day but we know that majority of us do really want more.
Not just on being greedy but we do have particular goals and target in life but majority would really be sticking on accumulating fiat as much as we could since we know
that nothing beats out when you do have lots of money.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: BRINIRHA on September 14, 2022, 11:29:15 PM
Recently I read a lot of biographies of successful people. because that's how I am. I like to motivate myself by reading stories from people who have been successful.
then I found several factors in determining a person's success. and surprisingly high IQ and high school in prestigious universities are not included in these factors. The name of the person who put forward the determining factors for success was an author of a book entitled millionaire mind, namely Thomas J. Stanley, Ph.D.

The factors that he mentioned are:
1. Honesty (Being honest with all people)
2. Hard Discipline (Being well-disciplined)
3. Easy to get along with (Getting along with people)
4. Having a supportive spouse
5. Working harder than most people
6. Love for what you do (Loving my career/business)
7. Leadership (Having strong leadership qualities)
8. Competitive personality (Having a very competitive spirit/personality)
9. Living regularly (Being very well-organized)
10. Ability to sell ideas (Having an ability to sell my ideas/products)


And I also found that the idea and definition of success according to rich people and successful people who are already famous in the world. Take Bill Gates for example.
Bill Gates defines success as Happiness. he does not measure success based on the money he has earned. Instead, he measures every achievement by his own happiness. isn't that simple? yeah it's simple. because a successful life is happy. that is when we can feel happy even though it's in ordinary moments and in ordinary conditions.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: lienfaye on September 15, 2022, 03:32:36 AM
For me success is having a contentment. It doesnt matter even you're not rich or famous as long as you're contented and happy with your life.

But obviously this is subjective because we have our own definition of success. Often, people who are born poor are not asking for more, as long as they have food, shelter and healthy, they already considered it as their wealth.

Thus it depends on us how we define ourselves as already successful.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: BuNga_cute on September 15, 2022, 04:45:07 AM
For me success is having a contentment. It doesnt matter even you're not rich or famous as long as you're contented and happy with your life.

But obviously this is subjective because we have our own definition of success. Often, people who are born poor are not asking for more, as long as they have food, shelter and healthy, they already considered it as their wealth.

Thus it depends on us how we define ourselves as already successful.

Indeed, success is subjective, because everyone has a different standard of success. As you said, poor people usually become successful when
they can fulfill their needs. Then for rich people, success is usually judged by how many assets they have. Therefore we cannot equate everyone's
success, everyone has their own version of success. Because I started as a poor person, success is for me if I can live there is no shortage anymore,
I consider my life to be successful. So we have to ask each one of us what kind of life makes us happy. If we can achieve our happiness, it means
we have succeeded. So seek happiness for each of us to become successful people.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: LogitechMouse on September 15, 2022, 05:03:37 AM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
Satisfaction. A word that you can't apply to people TBH. Why? When a person achieved one and got satisfied into it, that person will find another thing that will satisfy them, and the cycle keeps going forever. People will never satisfy with one thing. They will find another way to satisfy them.

As for being successful, for me it's subjective because different people have different definition of success. For some, they are successful already when they are happy and satisfied. For me, being successful is when you achieve financial freedom. When the point comes where money will not a problem to you anymore. For me, as long as I don't have any problem financially and I'm happy with what I'm doing then I can consider myself successful already.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: andriarto on September 15, 2022, 07:11:31 AM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
Satisfaction. A word that you can't apply to people TBH. Why? When a person achieved one and got satisfied into it, that person will find another thing that will satisfy them, and the cycle keeps going forever. People will never satisfy with one thing. They will find another way to satisfy them.

As for being successful, for me it's subjective because different people have different definition of success. For some, they are successful already when they are happy and satisfied. For me, being successful is when you achieve financial freedom. When the point comes where money will not a problem to you anymore. For me, as long as I don't have any problem financially and I'm happy with what I'm doing then I can consider myself successful already.
To me money is very important factor for the survival. It gives you power and strength
Having no money and longing for money is a mental challenge too - hard to cope. So let's be clear that money is the most important thing is life and private life is a good choice.
Fame is expensive - very very expensive.
Most people think that success is related to money. rich people have a lot of money, then he is a successful person. but not necessarily he has something that poor people have, happiness for example. therefore finding the purpose of life itself is very important, we who understand ourselves so that it can lead us to something we aspire to, that way we will have the spirit of life, and keep chasing dreams


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: lixer on September 15, 2022, 07:20:50 PM
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CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
If you could observe the five fingers you could notice they weren't created equally which means that in this life you cant ever have all you wished for, because success could mean different things to different individuals. To some it could mean making money money, to others it could mean getting to the top his educational career, while to others it could be living a happy and peacefull life
Depends on what you wish for. What I wish for in life right now is to never have financial problems, and I am sure that many people think like me, billions of people think like me in fact. Which means that if you gave me a million dollars then I have no other problems.

I would care about my health of course and that's something you can't purchase with money, even the richest people die from cancer, so it's not really a money related thing, but for things that I could acquire, money is number one. That would make me happy, peaceful, relaxed and many other things and then I can start to live a life, because right now? Life I am living is not really exceptionally well, it's just okay, there are worse than me so I should be happy of course.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Sanitough on September 15, 2022, 07:35:50 PM
Success is so much more than money and isn't money in and of itself.  I would say to look at money as the base because once the financials are in order, it's much easier to focus on and give more time everything else- family, friends, etc.  However, it's hard to be successful without money.
The benchmark for success is different for everyone, because people whose lives still look simple in the eyes of others can also be said to be successful as long as they don't have debts or loans that they have to pay off every month. And every income earned can be directly enjoyed for every need they need, because they live without any pressure on them.
I guess happiness and satisfaction is still very possible even if you are minimal income earner. As long as you didn’t have due dates to pay, loan interest to settle, that way you will never live just relying on money alone. Although it’s undeniable these days that the success of each individual relies mostly on their earned finances, but if that’s the case, why do rich people in our society still aiming for success and happiness despite of their achieved wealth already?


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Mahanton on September 15, 2022, 07:37:09 PM
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CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
If you could observe the five fingers you could notice they weren't created equally which means that in this life you cant ever have all you wished for, because success could mean different things to different individuals. To some it could mean making money money, to others it could mean getting to the top his educational career, while to others it could be living a happy and peacefull life
Depends on what you wish for. What I wish for in life right now is to never have financial problems, and I am sure that many people think like me, billions of people think like me in fact. Which means that if you gave me a million dollars then I have no other problems.

I would care about my health of course and that's something you can't purchase with money, even the richest people die from cancer, so it's not really a money related thing, but for things that I could acquire, money is number one. That would make me happy, peaceful, relaxed and many other things and then I can start to live a life, because right now? Life I am living is not really exceptionally well, it's just okay, there are worse than me so I should be happy of course.
We do all want to have no problem when it comes to financial which we had really be wishing because having monetary problems or financial ones wont really be simple yet you would really be falling into the category of being poor which even taking 3x meal a day wont really be that easy and this is something that we want to happen in our lives and thats why we do try and thrive our very best to achieve our goals and able to
make it better in terms of finances.It doesnt matter on what way we would able to achieve it whether it is through fame or achievement because just like been said by other members that once you do able to
achieve fame or something achievement then this is where money come from or flow which it would really be just the basic concept after all.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: uneng on September 16, 2022, 04:15:32 AM
Success is so much more than money and isn't money in and of itself.  I would say to look at money as the base because once the financials are in order, it's much easier to focus on and give more time everything else- family, friends, etc.  However, it's hard to be successful without money.
The benchmark for success is different for everyone, because people whose lives still look simple in the eyes of others can also be said to be successful as long as they don't have debts or loans that they have to pay off every month. And every income earned can be directly enjoyed for every need they need, because they live without any pressure on them.
I guess happiness and satisfaction is still very possible even if you are minimal income earner. As long as you didn’t have due dates to pay, loan interest to settle, that way you will never live just relying on money alone. Although it’s undeniable these days that the success of each individual relies mostly on their earned finances, but if that’s the case, why do rich people in our society still aiming for success and happiness despite of their achieved wealth already?
The most important goal in everyone's lives is self realization. The way to fulfill this goal will be different for each individual, because each person is unique. In the situation of rich people you mentioned I believe that is what they lack. They do have money, but life isn't only about money, it's also about doing what you like, feel pleasure and satisfaction. It's about putting in practice the gifts received by God.

When people focus only in money they go through thorny paths, become cold as ice and forget about their roots. After all they become unhappy, because that has never been what they were supposed to do in life.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Jatiluhung on September 16, 2022, 06:16:44 AM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
sometimes I forget this important point. But I also have the same definition when it comes to the meaning of success. Happiness and satisfaction are goals that everyone strives for. but sometimes many people forget this important point. How can a person be said to be successful if he does not feel happy. then of course a successful person is a person who feels satisfied and gets a sense of happiness in his life.
besides being happy and satisfied, there are also other points such as a sense of calm in the heart.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: bitzizzix on September 16, 2022, 06:47:42 AM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
sometimes I forget this important point. But I also have the same definition when it comes to the meaning of success. Happiness and satisfaction are goals that everyone strives for. but sometimes many people forget this important point. How can a person be said to be successful if he does not feel happy. then of course a successful person is a person who feels satisfied and gets a sense of happiness in his life.
besides being happy and satisfied, there are also other points such as a sense of calm in the heart.
It's simple, for me success in this world is when I can be happy with everything I have and be grateful for it.
The success I want is when I can feel calm in life, can worship without feeling chased by work or other worldly things, can be grateful for what I have, and can live life to the best of my ability.
And it is undeniable, money can indeed make us happy, but it cannot guarantee our happiness, because happiness is not only a matter of money that can make our lives calm, happy and also peaceful.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Jatiluhung on September 16, 2022, 07:16:02 AM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
sometimes I forget this important point. But I also have the same definition when it comes to the meaning of success. Happiness and satisfaction are goals that everyone strives for. but sometimes many people forget this important point. How can a person be said to be successful if he does not feel happy. then of course a successful person is a person who feels satisfied and gets a sense of happiness in his life.
besides being happy and satisfied, there are also other points such as a sense of calm in the heart.
It's simple, for me success in this world is when I can be happy with everything I have and be grateful for it.
The success I want is when I can feel calm in life, can worship without feeling chased by work or other worldly things, can be grateful for what I have, and can live life to the best of my ability.
And it is undeniable, money can indeed make us happy, but it cannot guarantee our happiness, because happiness is not only a matter of money that can make our lives calm, happy and also peaceful.
Being grateful for what we have is indeed the thing that must be done to get happiness. And money doesn't always guarantee happiness. but money is only one of the many roads to happiness.
I like your statement about being able to worship in peace. because worship is also a way to happiness. because success is a gift from God Almighty. so worshiping Him is important and the main thing. so that the success achieved is maintained.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Cookdata on September 16, 2022, 08:07:18 PM
It's simple, for me success in this world is when I can be happy with everything I have and be grateful for it.
The success I want is when I can feel calm in life, can worship without feeling chased by work or other worldly things, can be grateful for what I have, and can live life to the best of my ability.
And it is undeniable, money can indeed make us happy, but it cannot guarantee our happiness, because happiness is not only a matter of money that can make our lives calm, happy and also peaceful.

Today's environment ignores the small wins that bring happiness and focuses on the large things that create internal peer pressure. Social media has even made it worse today that the youth follows what others do and take them as their role model. Sadly, this is not how real life operates. In order to be happy, you must be contented with what you have, and if you are, the wealth of others won't bother you at all. I still believe that achievement encompasses both fame and wealth, if you work hard and smart, you will definitely accomplish them over time.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Hamphser on September 16, 2022, 08:29:48 PM
It's simple, for me success in this world is when I can be happy with everything I have and be grateful for it.
The success I want is when I can feel calm in life, can worship without feeling chased by work or other worldly things, can be grateful for what I have, and can live life to the best of my ability.
And it is undeniable, money can indeed make us happy, but it cannot guarantee our happiness, because happiness is not only a matter of money that can make our lives calm, happy and also peaceful.

Today's environment ignores the small wins that bring happiness and focuses on the large things that create internal peer pressure. Social media has even made it worse today that the youth follows what others do and take them as their role model. Sadly, this is not how real life operates. In order to be happy, you must be contented with what you have, and if you are, the wealth of others won't bother you at all. I still believe that achievement encompasses both fame and wealth, if you work hard and smart, you will definitely accomplish them over time.
Social media does really have those kind of con's which i could confidently say or totally agree on what you had mentioned on this one.It is worst but depends if someone do really idolize and follow on what are the

things that they could see into those platforms.Im not saying its totally bad but eventually this could really give out that kind of effect if someone wont really be that careful or should be sticking into their own
principles in life on which you do let other things do really convinced or make it as an inspiration.

Its true that it would be better to do things on normal ways that would be in line with your principle and dont get yourself that too influenced.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on September 16, 2022, 09:49:10 PM
Everyone loves to become a successful being but success definition differs for everyone. Most people see success as being fame and rich. Although money is a huge driving factor for a lot of things and an ultimate measuring stick for whether or not a business is successful but this doesn't fully define success. Success is about claiming and speaking up for what is important to you. Consider these and tell if they are successful

👉👉a rich and a famous man with a broken home
👉👉a rich and a famous man that has failed to impact on others.
👉👉a money corrupt rich and famous man
👉👉a ritualist with great fame.

Although this people are rich and famous but aren't successful at my own part. There is always a shortcut to riches and being famous but success comes through hardwork. There are many rich and famous people who have attempted suicides in their life. If being rich is being successful, then what made them to take such disastrous steps? Sanjay Dutt is a son of a famous politician and is one of the richest celebrities, Sunil Dutt. Still, he is behind lock-up. Is this what we call as success? Many gangstar becomes rich out of crime and corruption but they are not successful in our society. This is part of what causes increasement in crime rate and corruption in the world as everyone want to be rich so as to be called a successful being. A successful man is one who finds his purpose and creates a life where he can fulfill that purpose.

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

Success cannot really be measured any other way except from subjective viewpoints. And those are different for every single person on earth. Everyone sees success differently. A person with good health sees success in the quantity of money or material belongings. A person with crippling terminal health issues sees success as having lived to see yet another sunrise. The most dangerous thing we really do, which messes with the mental and emotional state of people is to force our views of success unto them. And unfortunately that is exactly what is happening to us that makes us so miserable. We need to stop that.

Personally, I see success in Bitcoin. :P ;D


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Mauser on September 17, 2022, 05:49:01 AM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

I agree with you that money is not a good measure of success. There are many people who are being born into a wealthy family and never have to worry about money in their life. I wouldn't call inheriting large sums of money as being successful. In case you are a self made man than its different, but still money is no guarantee for happiness. What if you or one of your close family member becomes ill and there is no cure? It doesn't matter how much money you have if you can't enjoy it. In my opinion good relationships with your family and everybody being healthy is much more important and will lead to more satisfaction than all the money in the world. It seems success is a very wide defined word that people interpret differently. We should work on our own happiness and success and not what other people think of us


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: $anounimus$ on September 17, 2022, 09:14:22 AM

Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.


There are many aspects that determine a person's success. Some people find their happiness in the material aspects of life such as money, fame, and achievements.

My view is that there are far more important things in life than just money and accomplishments. In my opinion, being happy in what you do and finding pleasure in the simplest things can bring a far greater sense of satisfaction than fame or a fat bank account can offer.

The main secret is to never give up and keep running, which means your new personal goal. just added.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: beerlover on September 17, 2022, 10:26:24 AM
You can never tell a person is successful when he has all the riches and fame, simply because not everyone has the same thinking and life’s goals. For all we know, success does not matter until we hit our life’s satisfaction. But the sad reality is no one gets satisfaction in life no matter how successful he is. I think that’s a human nature, but as long as we chose to be more happy and grateful in all our achievements, that what matters the most.
It is a human nature, indeed. In fact, we, humans, have evolved to be like this.

When I was a little kid, my life goal was to surround myself with chocolate and eat it all the time. I thought I didn't need anything else. Fast-forward to a grown-up man who can actually afford that kind of living, but it turns out that he needs much more than that. ... We are never fully satisfied, and it's a good thing. That's why we have progress, the constant improvement of the world around us.
I disagree with this, I have a family elder that I know, he is my mother's uncle and he is very old now, but I remember him when he was 70 years old and stories about him were told many times before. He used to own a fish restaurant, he would catch the fish early in the morning at 4-5 am, and then would go to restaurant at around 9-10 am, and start preparing for the dinner, people would come and eat the fish he caught that day.

He did this from around his 30's to until his 60's, the place he owned became more and more modern and someone paid him millions of dollars in the 90's, or early 2000 times, and he sold it and retired and he took up painting and just lived a happy life without wanting more. So, there are people who do not want more.

My father could be considered one of them too, he worked as an employee of a logistic company for 32 years, and then retired at age of 55 and just watches TV and sleeps and drinks coffee and reads the newspaper and watches reality tv shows all night and I haven't seen anyone happier than him. So, not everyone wants millions or wealth or non-stop riches to satisfy their needs.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Stella Mese on September 17, 2022, 01:04:25 PM
Success cannot really be measured any other way except from subjective viewpoints. And those are different for every single person on earth. Everyone sees success differently. A person with good health sees success in the quantity of money or material belongings. A person with crippling terminal health issues sees success as having lived to see yet another sunrise. The most dangerous thing we really do, which messes with the mental and emotional state of people is to force our views of success unto them. And unfortunately that is exactly what is happening to us that makes us so miserable. We need to stop that.

Personally, I see success in Bitcoin. :P ;D
That is correct people see success differently. As you mentioned about health
And I once read Dali Lama quote when my father was admitted in hospital  -where he mentioned the strange reality of me -
 He loses his health running after the money and then he uses the same money to gain his health.
- he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy present - he lives as if he never going to die and dies if he dies as if he has never lived.
Success has many meanings. and has a broad meaning. depending on who the definition of success is expressed. because everyone's experience is different. This gives rise to a different definition for each person. but I believe that happiness and health are important for everyone.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Abbati on September 17, 2022, 01:55:03 PM
Even when everyone has his or her own point of view towards success, everyone's end goal should be happiness, because even if you have money, fame or achievement you need to be happy with them before you can enjoy them.

This reminds me of one of pareto's quote in his book, "the 80/20 principle"

He said, if there a trade off between happiness and achievement, choose happiness.

So fucus on things that are more important to you first.
Your happiness is the must important thing because there is no reward in doing something you doesn't enjoy.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Minecache on September 17, 2022, 01:57:41 PM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
Satisfaction. A word that you can't apply to people TBH. Why? When a person achieved one and got satisfied into it, that person will find another thing that will satisfy them, and the cycle keeps going forever. People will never satisfy with one thing. They will find another way to satisfy them.

As for being successful, for me it's subjective because different people have different definition of success. For some, they are successful already when they are happy and satisfied. For me, being successful is when you achieve financial freedom. When the point comes where money will not a problem to you anymore. For me, as long as I don't have any problem financially and I'm happy with what I'm doing then I can consider myself successful already.
To me money is very important factor for the survival. It gives you power and strength
Having no money and longing for money is a mental challenge too - hard to cope. So let's be clear that money is the most important thing is life and private life is a good choice.
Fame is expensive - very very expensive.

Money is vital if you want to survive in this life, but having a lot of money still cannot guarantee that you will succeed. Money can buy everything but can't buy real happiness for you, money can't buy health for you and your parents when time never stops. To be successful, you just need to make sure that you have money, health and love from your loved ones. Don't put too much emphasis on money.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on September 17, 2022, 11:33:13 PM
Money is vital if you want to survive in this life, but having a lot of money still cannot guarantee that you will succeed. Money can buy everything but can't buy real happiness for you, money can't buy health for you and your parents when time never stops. To be successful, you just need to make sure that you have money, health and love from your loved ones. Don't put too much emphasis on money.
It's true what you said, because regardless of anything nowadays money is an important part of life.
Even though there are many people who always say that money does not guarantee happiness, but come on, we don't need to be naive about it because indeed to support a better life we need money for it.
Right now I might say it's very difficult to live without money there. But in this case it doesn't mean we worship God but we have to be realistic because indeed we will not live if we don't have money because they are an important resource for now.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: passwordnow on September 19, 2022, 04:41:31 AM
Money can only give you temporary happiness but you'll still seek for other important things that it can't really buy. We can live a luxurious life and still not be contented. For me, success is being satisfied with the way we live regardless of our financial status. We can be poor and still be happy. Contentment is the key to happiness and happiness is also proof of success.
Not that temporary, it'll give us that happiness that we won't be thinking about the finances and other problems in life that mostly require money. So, that happiness will depend on how you perceive it. Although it's true that it lies in the status and happiness based on your financial status, no one I guess wants to be out of money and still be happy dealing with the problems that are mostly needing money for you to solve it. Like your daily needs, food, housing, those basic necessities.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: PurpleFrog on September 19, 2022, 06:17:53 AM
Success can be defined in many different ways, but it's up to you which one to choose. Success can be achieved when you try your best in all aspects of everything you do, even if that doesn't lead to big results.  :)


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: gunhell16 on September 19, 2022, 08:27:44 AM
The definition of success is subjective and it differs from person to person where you're asking it. Go in the remote and poor areas and neighborhood and ask them what is success to them, they'll quickly say that success is all about money, fame and riches.

But go to the rich neighborhood where people are already successful and ask them what is success about them, they'll say different answer such as healthy living, long life, happy and complete family and other things that they can be seen in the poor people.

That's why there will be a lot of description when you describe what success is and it will vary on the situation that you're currently sitting.
True. You can never tell a person is successful when he has all the riches and fame, simply because not everyone has the same thinking and life’s goals. For all we know, success does not matter until we hit our life’s satisfaction. But the sad reality is no one gets satisfaction in life no matter how successful he is. I think that’s a human nature, but as long as we chose to be more happy and grateful in all our achievements, that what matters the most.

It's just like this, the word "Success" before you can get it, you must first "Succeed" what is it? these are the trials you/we will go through before you reach what you want. We cannot be successful if we cannot pass "Succeed".

So from Succeed - Success - Victory the last one is our final destination to make our life successful in the world.

But, you are also right on another point, because there is indeed something that is born rich, so it means that it is no longer the main goal to get to be successful in life, as it were, Legacy is what we are talking about in this matter.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Fara Chan on September 19, 2022, 10:59:00 AM
Everyone loves to become a successful being but success definition differs for everyone. Most people see success as being fame and rich. Although money is a huge driving factor for a lot of things and an ultimate measuring stick for whether or not a business is successful but this doesn't fully define success. Success is about claiming and speaking up for what is important to you. Consider these and tell if they are successful.
Success can be interpreted in several dimensions, depending on what someone is pursuing?
I mean success is based on achieving something that people are working on, if you are working hard, then the measure of success is results.
If you are building a business, then the level of success is the running of the business perfectly. That's only a small part of the meaning of a success.

There are many rich and famous people who have attempted suicides in their life. If being rich is being successful, then what made them to take such disastrous steps? Sanjay Dutt is a son of a famous politician and is one of the richest celebrities, Sunil Dutt. Still, he is behind lock-up. Is this what we call as success? Many gangstar becomes rich out of crime and corruption but they are not successful in our society. This is part of what causes increasement in crime rate and corruption in the world as everyone want to be rich so as to be called a successful being. A successful man is one who finds his purpose and creates a life where he can fulfill that purpose.
It's just a parable that you mention, not everyone is involved in the problem, every successful person must have a target achievement. In a real sense, success is an achievement, an illustration of cases of violence and corruption, only the involvement of a few people who are not connected to social, cultural and ethical values, so they do things outside of healthy logic. When these values ​​are owned, then the things that encourage someone to commit crimes, will be blocked with these three levels

Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
Success cannot be categorized only in terms of making money or limited to fame. People need peace, comfort and always live side by side as social beings, if three things have been achieved, then the values ​​of success will follow by themselves, as long as the process is followed according to the achievements you want to produce.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: wiss19 on September 19, 2022, 03:19:04 PM
You can never tell a person is successful when he has all the riches and fame, simply because not everyone has the same thinking and life’s goals. For all we know, success does not matter until we hit our life’s satisfaction. But the sad reality is no one gets satisfaction in life no matter how successful he is. I think that’s a human nature, but as long as we chose to be more happy and grateful in all our achievements, that what matters the most.
It's just like this, the word "Success" before you can get it, you must first "Succeed" what is it? these are the trials you/we will go through before you reach what you want. We cannot be successful if we cannot pass "Succeed".

So from Succeed - Success - Victory the last one is our final destination to make our life successful in the world.

But, you are also right on another point, because there is indeed something that is born rich, so it means that it is no longer the main goal to get to be successful in life, as it were, Legacy is what we are talking about in this matter.
Not many people know exactly what could make them happy, and that is why they do not know success neither. Like lets say money would mean success for you, but how much money? And then what? Like lets say you have a billion dollars, that should be enough for almost anything in the world, but after you have that money then what? What will you use it on? You should know that.

Let's say it's fame, and you become a world famous movie star, or a rockstar, then what? What will be next after that? That is why it's not always about reaching somewhere, because life goes on, and if you reach there, then you are still alive and you should definitely know what to do afterwards. This is why I agree with "be happy", because it continues, never ends, just forever be happy.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Ludmilla_rose1995 on September 19, 2022, 03:48:52 PM
Success for me is not just about money and fame, it's more about personal achievements and relationships. success in keeping the household in harmony, success in making employees feel at home, success in educating children, and many more are forms of success for me. as you mentioned that many rich people have broken families or the person is corrupt, that is a form of failure in my opinion.



Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: aylabadia05 on September 20, 2022, 03:12:57 AM
How many people on this earth then that number is the definition of success. Success is very broad to be interpreted and each interpretation is different from one another.
It's not how rich or how famous a person is, but in my opinion when the soul's needs are met, that's where success lies. Money is only a medium of exchange that can bring success and can also bring failure and even destruction for someone.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Gayong88 on September 20, 2022, 03:55:47 AM

Everyone loves to become a successful being but success definition differs for everyone.


Yes, they are different, but the goals and paths are different. Life is about choices. With each decision, you build your path and define what kind of person you want to be. If you choose money, you will be rich. But sometimes being rich also means that life is no longer a challenge for you. You will have all the time in the world to do anything you can imagine. However, I believe that achievement hints at something much different than simple money or fame. that's my view


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Betwrong on September 20, 2022, 01:08:02 PM
~ Take Bill Gates for example.
Bill Gates defines success as Happiness. he does not measure success based on the money he has earned. Instead, he measures every achievement by his own happiness. isn't that simple? yeah it's simple. because a successful life is happy. that is when we can feel happy even though it's in ordinary moments and in ordinary conditions.

Well, if you have 110 billion USD and you are the fifth-richest person in the world, you can probably say(and think) that money is not what you need, you need happiness. :) But for us, regular folks, it's mostly money what we need to be happy. I'm not saying all rich people are happy. Far from it. But if you have no money, it's hard to feel happy, especially when you have kids that want to eat. You can shoot some heroin into your veins, or drink alcohol with your friends, losers like yourself, and feel happy, but I don't think you can be called successful in that case.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Desscount on September 20, 2022, 09:18:57 PM
How many people on this earth then that number is the definition of success. Success is very broad to be interpreted and each interpretation is different from one another.
It's not how rich or how famous a person is, but in my opinion when the soul's needs are met, that's where success lies. Money is only a medium of exchange that can bring success and can also bring failure and even destruction for someone.
Everyone does have a definition of success and sometimes success is identified with how rich you are or about money,
things like that for me are misguided because as you say that success is very broad which is not all about money,
We certainly need to cultivate this mindset


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: BRINIRHA on September 21, 2022, 07:43:26 AM
Success for me is not just about money and fame, it's more about personal achievements and relationships. success in keeping the household in harmony, success in making employees feel at home, success in educating children, and many more are forms of success for me. as you mentioned that many rich people have broken families or the person is corrupt, that is a form of failure in my opinion.
it is true, the definition of success will be different for each individual. because everyone has a different point of view about the true meaning of success. but sometimes the definition of success has the same characteristics for everyone, namely when someone achieves the goals that have been dreamed of and can live comfortably and happily. and success can be a simple thing. as long as we can be grateful for what we have.

~ Take Bill Gates for example.
Bill Gates defines success as Happiness. he does not measure success based on the money he has earned. Instead, he measures every achievement by his own happiness. isn't that simple? yeah it's simple. because a successful life is happy. that is when we can feel happy even though it's in ordinary moments and in ordinary conditions.

Well, if you have 110 billion USD and you are the fifth-richest person in the world, you can probably say(and think) that money is not what you need, you need happiness. :) But for us, regular folks, it's mostly money what we need to be happy. I'm not saying all rich people are happy. Far from it. But if you have no money, it's hard to feel happy, especially when you have kids that want to eat. You can shoot some heroin into your veins, or drink alcohol with your friends, losers like yourself, and feel happy, but I don't think you can be called successful in that case.
I agree with this. I forgot that the definition of success will be different when viewed from a different perspective. you are right, rich people maybe they don't think about money. because they already have a lot of money so they don't worry about lack of money. I forgot about that. that the standard of living also plays a role in this.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Majestic-milf on September 21, 2022, 08:41:24 AM
I think if I were to rate success personally, I'd say I define success by what I've achieved. People get to relate with you in the things you've been able to achieve and that's what makes you valued.
 Take a situation of an innovator for instance, let's say Thomas Edison, the creator of the light bulb, even in his absence, his innovation is still used. That's success, some other person may be rich and famous
 
Like one of the posters correctly stated, success is actually defined by what one desires at the moment. Also, since there's no age limit to stop being successful, people push further to gather more.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Agbe on September 21, 2022, 12:57:45 PM
From the topic of the OP I took only two things out of the three things he mentioned. I took only money and fame because money and fame are the achievement of a person therefore, there is no need to add achievement in the list again. Achievement covers everything other things.

I believe MONEY define one's success. OP please can you tell me the world poorest person? No. But you can tell me the world richest person so money define a success of a man. Do you or have you heard famous person that is very poor? No. All famous people have money. Money determine the other achievement of man.

And also there is different between a rich man and a wealthy man. See the difference. A rich man has money but he or she still work to maintain the money he or she spends daily. She or he cannot stay at home to spend the money because the money they have in their possession will be exhausted so they have to work to maintain their rich. While a wealthy man stays at home and spend his or MONEY without going to work. He would not go to work for weeks or months yet there still money for him to spend but a rich man can not.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: MidNite36 on September 21, 2022, 04:12:37 PM
Money doesn't defines my own success, being able to accomplish my goals is what I called a success, I can have all money earned through inheritance and decide to never pursue any dream, that's a whacked life, your life will get boring so quickly, everyone has their own meaning of being successful this is mine.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Quidat on September 21, 2022, 11:42:19 PM
Money doesn't defines my own success, being able to accomplish my goals is what I called a success, I can have all money earned through inheritance and decide to never pursue any dream, that's a whacked life, your life will get boring so quickly, everyone has their own meaning of being successful this is mine.
When you do already have the money then it would be considered as success since you could buy everything that you do want but its true that there are some
things which we do really want to achieve in life like reaching a particular fame and popularity or something that you do need to achieve which does simply means that
there are things which we cant really that able to determine on what a person does have in mind.So it does vary when it comes into this situation but
in overall money would be the primary target on this one.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: goinmerry on September 21, 2022, 11:46:14 PM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

People have different definitions of success. If they think that's about money and fame, then so be it. We don't have to argue about that and make it a big deal.

We don't know the difficulties they faced in their life, the challenges they face, and the worst thing they have experienced.

If after overcoming those and they are able to earn big money and fame and they called it a success, that's their achievement and just respect their views.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Betwrong on September 23, 2022, 09:55:29 AM
~ Take Bill Gates for example.
Bill Gates defines success as Happiness. he does not measure success based on the money he has earned. Instead, he measures every achievement by his own happiness. isn't that simple? yeah it's simple. because a successful life is happy. that is when we can feel happy even though it's in ordinary moments and in ordinary conditions.

Well, if you have 110 billion USD and you are the fifth-richest person in the world, you can probably say(and think) that money is not what you need, you need happiness. :) But for us, regular folks, it's mostly money what we need to be happy. I'm not saying all rich people are happy. Far from it. But if you have no money, it's hard to feel happy, especially when you have kids that want to eat. You can shoot some heroin into your veins, or drink alcohol with your friends, losers like yourself, and feel happy, but I don't think you can be called successful in that case.
I agree with this. I forgot that the definition of success will be different when viewed from a different perspective. you are right, rich people maybe they don't think about money. because they already have a lot of money so they don't worry about lack of money. I forgot about that. that the standard of living also plays a role in this.

Thank you for agreeing with me. :) And this brings us back to the OP of this thread. The very idea that money and fame isn't a measure for success comes from the people that have a lot of that stuff, but still feel unsuccessful. I mean, it's their own problem. These people can have millions of reasons to be unhappy, but it doesn't prove that everyone else would feel the same being on their place.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Rockstarguy on September 23, 2022, 01:13:25 PM
Thank you for agreeing with me. :) And this brings us back to the OP of this thread. The very idea that money and fame isn't a measure for success comes from the people that have a lot of that stuff, but still feel unsuccessful. I mean, it's their own problem. These people can have millions of reasons to be unhappy, but it doesn't prove that everyone else would feel the same being on their place.
Money defines my success - it is true that money gives us power, without money - I am very upset.
When my bank account drops - my blood pressure also drops and when I get money - I feel happy and comfortable

Their are many things that can be described to be success.  If we should be honest to ourselves 90% of persons on earth will consider money and wealth to be the kind of success they want first.  We all have different occupations we depend on for survival and if it is not giving us the amount of money we wish, we won't be happy and it can make one to feel as a failure. Having money is the first success in life, because that is what everyone of are striving for in our everyday life. Let's be sincere one of the things that gives man joy so much in life is when their is money to solve problems and to help friends and family.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: iamsheikhadil on September 23, 2022, 07:20:16 PM
I think there's no such thing as success. When we look at what we believe are successful people, we just see their outer appearance and when they are in the lime light of the world, but in their inner lives, they often are sad, depressed. I don't think one can ever achieve "success", success is when we won the race and took birth, after that success is just surviving everyday against the universe that loves entropy, chaos and disorder so much.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: famososMuertos on September 23, 2022, 09:24:05 PM
With personal and professional growth, we understand that the environment around us begins to strengthen not because of the amount of money you have, but because of the quality of the people around you, even if our life goals are not achieved.

There are people who use the term success and money, but they don't know how much of it they want...and that's a big problem, many successful people don't know how much of the minimum expenses they need to live, they just know they want more.

A person who lives with the minimum knows exactly how much he needs to be happy, sometimes it is very little because his happiness is buying food, while for others happiness is a material object, but both are happy and consider that they are successful because they reach their goals. objectives, one of survival and the other of vanity.

As long as I surround myself with people who love me and appreciate me for who I am, it may be cliche but that is my greatest success.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: BRINIRHA on September 24, 2022, 08:23:40 AM

Thank you for agreeing with me. :) And this brings us back to the OP of this thread. The very idea that money and fame isn't a measure for success comes from the people that have a lot of that stuff, but still feel unsuccessful. I mean, it's their own problem. These people can have millions of reasons to be unhappy, but it doesn't prove that everyone else would feel the same being on their place.
Yes like that. the definition of success will be different when viewed from different points of view. different points of view are born from the characteristics of a person and the background of each person is not the same. even a dream between one and the other will be different. like the wishes of someone from a lower middle class family and someone from an upper middle class family will obviously be different. so we can't equate everything. Success can be a simple thing or it can even be a complicated thing. depends on someone understanding it. although everything ends in the same thing, namely happiness and satisfaction. and sometimes it's hard for everyone to understand each other. like me who can't understand someone from among the antique collectors.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: AicecreaME on September 24, 2022, 08:29:39 AM
Success is a very very hard to explain, I mean it could vary depends each person. For me, success is something that I wanted that takes a lot of time for me to achieve. However, the very best success I could and anyone could have is contentment and happiness, because no matter how many achievements, money, cars, and properties you have, without happiness and contentment, you can never satisfy yourself, you'll always be missing a piece.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: palle11 on September 24, 2022, 10:51:04 AM
contentment and happiness, because no matter how many achievements, money, cars, and properties you have, without happiness and contentment, you can never satisfy yourself, you'll always be missing a piece.

Contentment leads to happiness yes but we can not tell our self how successful we are, it depends on the outsider to say. Although inside we can be fulfilled but success itself is not what we can say of ourselves but it is the public that will quantify our success based on different criteria and comparison with others, such criteria include your age, education, pair group, social glass, family history and inheritance because those also play some roles to how successful we can be.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: TribalBob on September 24, 2022, 02:58:32 PM
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.


A person's success can be seen from any side
like you said you measure success by satisfaction and happiness
but the level of satisfaction of people is different and as we know humans are never satisfied, always less and less always wanting more
so in my opinion success in the sense of my life is money where if we have money we can create our level of satisfaction and happiness,


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Raflesia on September 24, 2022, 06:58:56 PM
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.


A person's success can be seen from any side
like you said you measure success by satisfaction and happiness
but the level of satisfaction of people is different and as we know humans are never satisfied, always less and less always wanting more
so in my opinion success in the sense of my life is money where if we have money we can create our level of satisfaction and happiness,
In this case it is true but on the other hand the most important factor still refers to money because indeed when looking at a person's condition, the success factor is measured by money.
Let's take the example of some of today's billionaires like Elon Musk, Bill Gates and many others, they can be considered successful because they make a lot of money there, so regardless of their own satisfaction, money is still an important factor in measuring success.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Betwrong on September 29, 2022, 11:15:04 AM

Thank you for agreeing with me. :) And this brings us back to the OP of this thread. The very idea that money and fame isn't a measure for success comes from the people that have a lot of that stuff, but still feel unsuccessful. I mean, it's their own problem. These people can have millions of reasons to be unhappy, but it doesn't prove that everyone else would feel the same being on their place.
Yes like that. the definition of success will be different when viewed from different points of view. different points of view are born from the characteristics of a person and the background of each person is not the same. even a dream between one and the other will be different. like the wishes of someone from a lower middle class family and someone from an upper middle class family will obviously be different. so we can't equate everything. Success can be a simple thing or it can even be a complicated thing. depends on someone understanding it. although everything ends in the same thing, namely happiness and satisfaction. and sometimes it's hard for everyone to understand each other. like me who can't understand someone from among the antique collectors.

I'm with you on this one. How can you be happy from buying an antique chair, or a cup? And how about unopened bottle of poison, like this one?

https://i.imgur.com/FTgtIBE.png

And yet, it makes some people feeling over the moon when they get those things. It's the highest point of success to them.

But it's worth noting that without enough money they would not be able to afford such acquisitions.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: tabas on September 29, 2022, 03:39:52 PM
All of them.
When you're rich, you surely have achievements and you're going to be popular and famous wherever you go.
When you've got achievements, then that means that you're famous and you're likely to earn a lot because of it.
So, I agree to that person who's said that it's in the form of everything.
A person's success can be seen from any side


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: fillippone on September 30, 2022, 06:28:34 AM
I would define success in terms of achievements.
Fame and money will follow.

Take one of the most successful person I admire:Arnold Schwarzenegger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger)

  • He was a millionaire before his Hollywood Career: success in business
  • He was the most prominent bodybuilder over at least two decades: success in soprt
  • He was elected, twice, governor of California: success in politics
  • He was one of the most prominent actors over four decades: success in Acting


He achieved so much in so many different fields, with a diverse set of skills.
I think this is the most striking definition of success.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Tallupooh on October 06, 2022, 04:27:55 AM
Success is something that people have always wanted. And to get there, people's ways are very different.

Some people think that achieving success is easy. And it turned out to be something that is not easy.

I sometimes think of my own imagination. In that fantasy I described myself as a successful person, and was recognized by many people. And it all makes me happy.

Then I thought, is the so-called success something that other people want to appreciate, and have a lot of money?.

 Success varies from the point of view of many people. There are people who succeed in their dreams, and he tells himself that he has succeeded. But there are also people who always fight with themselves, then one day they manage to make peace. The first words that came to mind were that I had made peace with myself.

So basically, I think success is something that makes us happy. Not only in the form of money or high achievements. Sometimes there are people who are not very satisfied with their achievements, and he is always looking for things that make him satisfied. And it kept him looking until he was overwhelmed. But happiness is number 1.

But maybe, if we think about satisfaction, humans will always be dissatisfied forever. Unless he found something he thought was happy, then that would be enough. And will continue to maintain his happiness.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Hamphser on October 06, 2022, 11:37:58 PM
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.


A person's success can be seen from any side
like you said you measure success by satisfaction and happiness
but the level of satisfaction of people is different and as we know humans are never satisfied, always less and less always wanting more
so in my opinion success in the sense of my life is money where if we have money we can create our level of satisfaction and happiness,

This is like a chain ,one thing followed by another . Neither is complete without the previous one like success is incomplete without fame, money and achievements.  When you'll work hard to achieve anything in life you'll gain money from that and probably you'll become famous( that's optional) . We have seen various examples in our world, in different fields either its sports( life story of Cristiano Ronaldo is the living example of success) or politics.  But one thing is sure working hard is important for everything.
True!
They are totally connected to each other which means that if you are famous or having that achievement then its expected that you do already have the money after that.Its really hard to avoid not to think that

you arent earning something on what you have done or the status you do have now.Success definition would be entirely depending on someones dream.
Some are just contented on what they do have now but most of us do really like to have a financial freedom, no matter what ways or methods that we do able to
achieve it as long it could make it happen.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: bhooscream on October 06, 2022, 11:53:03 PM
Most people will define success with those words: Money, fame, and also achievement or position in occupation.
But, are they exactly the indicators of success? The indicators may be various, but most people will see someone as successful with those three terms at least. Being popular, rich, and also having good position will raise a person's point of view of that person, will make others shy and fascinated.
But for me, my success is when I can do whatever I want to do and I can have whatever that I want to have, and I can make myself and people around me be happy. Simple.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Bitcoin2009 on October 08, 2022, 01:10:10 PM
Many people say the measure of success is from money and assets that can be collected, I think this is an indication but the real success is having a lot of time to do useful things, if we can have money and passive income then it's time we use the money for other things that we like or things that are useful to humans.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Sayakaaja on November 07, 2022, 12:51:45 AM
Money is the first thing people look for. but in my opinion, the definition of success is not only in the form of money. success is the success of everyone's hard work.

success is not only beneficial for yourself, but also beneficial for everyone.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: CageMabok on November 07, 2022, 01:16:27 AM
Money is the first thing people look for. but in my opinion, the definition of success is not only in the form of money. success is the success of everyone's hard work.

success is not only beneficial for yourself, but also beneficial for everyone.
Success is a result that has been achieved through hard work and that includes everything including having enough money or more. Because success is a complete package that was born after someone worked hard with a target time that had been determined by himself and clearly included money. So don't deny money in terms of success because it is part of the complete package of a very closely related success.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: BRINIRHA on November 08, 2022, 01:14:40 PM
I would define success in terms of achievements.
Fame and money will follow.

Take one of the most successful person I admire:Arnold Schwarzenegger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnold_Schwarzenegger)

  • He was a millionaire before his Hollywood Career: success in business
  • He was the most prominent bodybuilder over at least two decades: success in soprt
  • He was elected, twice, governor of California: success in politics
  • He was one of the most prominent actors over four decades: success in Acting

He achieved so much in so many different fields, with a diverse set of skills.
I think this is the most striking definition of success.
oh right. means when a success has been achieved through an achievement, for example, money and fame will follow. like for example we have a goal or dream of becoming an idol and we have succeeded in achieving it. then success is called achievement (success in achieving dreams). and of course after that money and fame will accompany the achievement. and that is one of the many definitions of success.

And the definition of success itself is there are simple and some are complex. depending on which point of view we see it.
even a simple success can also be found in a family environment. though it's not about money and fame. but this concerns the achievement of a successful parent figure in educating their children to be good children who are devoted to their parents. it is also a simple definition of success in a smaller scope.

so success also has a different scope. such as in a small scope and a wider scope.
so the meaning of success will always be different for each person.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: len01 on November 08, 2022, 05:45:29 PM
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
I think success or happiness is the definition of each of our thoughts. there is someone who feels himself successful because he has a lot of money. but on the other hand there is someone who feels successful when he has his own business (not much money). and happiness will appear after they feel successful in their own way.
It's true that money can't buy happiness. but (not hypocrites/losers) everyone will be happy when holding more money than before. How can one be happy without money? because when a person has more money they will surely be able to buy whatever he wants and feel happy and successful in that moment. I very rarely see someone can be happy without money while in his heart thinking about buying food tomorrow


so my conclusion :
someone will feel successful and happy with the definition of his own thinking or in his own way and supported by the money in his pocket


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: BigBos on November 09, 2022, 12:11:12 AM
contentment and happiness, because no matter how many achievements, money, cars, and properties you have, without happiness and contentment, you can never satisfy yourself, you'll always be missing a piece.

Contentment leads to happiness yes but we can not tell our self how successful we are, it depends on the outsider to say. Although inside we can be fulfilled but success itself is not what we can say of ourselves but it is the public that will quantify our success based on different criteria and comparison with others, such criteria include your age, education, pair group, social glass, family history and inheritance because those also play some roles to how successful we can be.

If you consider the way to measure success is by how the public judges, of course you will never be satisfied with the success you get. I think it's only right that you don't feel satisfied and happy with what you have achieved if you have that mindset.
we as humans must always remember and be aware that basically humans have advantages and disadvantages, therefore interpreting humans have their respective limitations.
Assumptions or public judgments are very wild and their respective or varied points of view, you can't make everyone like you, there are certainly many who criticize or even insult. Maybe you will feel tired if you are looking for happiness and satisfaction depending on other people.
if success is the same as happiness, the ancient Greek philosophy (Stoicism) asserts that "happiness comes from what we can control" which means that it is contrary to your opinion, because we know that public opinion about us cannot be controlled. .

In my opinion, the definition of happiness and success is to have an affluent life and always can feel grateful for what you get.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Xampeuu on November 09, 2022, 05:53:25 AM
contentment and happiness, because no matter how many achievements, money, cars, and properties you have, without happiness and contentment, you can never satisfy yourself, you'll always be missing a piece.

Contentment leads to happiness yes but we can not tell our self how successful we are, it depends on the outsider to say. Although inside we can be fulfilled but success itself is not what we can say of ourselves but it is the public that will quantify our success based on different criteria and comparison with others, such criteria include your age, education, pair group, social glass, family history and inheritance because those also play some roles to how successful we can be.

If you consider the way to measure success is by how the public judges, of course you will never be satisfied with the success you get. I think it's only right that you don't feel satisfied and happy with what you have achieved if you have that mindset.
we as humans must always remember and be aware that basically humans have advantages and disadvantages, therefore interpreting humans have their respective limitations.
Assumptions or public judgments are very wild and their respective or varied points of view, you can't make everyone like you, there are certainly many who criticize or even insult. Maybe you will feel tired if you are looking for happiness and satisfaction depending on other people.
if success is the same as happiness, the ancient Greek philosophy (Stoicism) asserts that "happiness comes from what we can control" which means that it is contrary to your opinion, because we know that public opinion about us cannot be controlled. .

In my opinion, the definition of happiness and success is to have an affluent life and always can feel grateful for what you get.
if our lives are influenced by other people's judgments, then I think we are not free, where we ourselves can feel happiness and satisfaction within ourselves. Everyone has different abilities and of course has a different level of happiness. therefore being yourself and being able to deal with yourself is very important, because we can appreciate every achievement that happens within ourselves


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Fesatmas on November 09, 2022, 05:36:09 PM
Most people will define success with those words: Money, fame, and also achievement or position in occupation.
But, are they exactly the indicators of success? The indicators may be various, but most people will see someone as successful with those three terms at least. Being popular, rich, and also having good position will raise a person's point of view of that person, will make others shy and fascinated.
But for me, my success is when I can do whatever I want to do and I can have whatever that I want to have, and I can make myself and people around me be happy. Simple.
You are the same as what I thought, I simplified the form of success according to my personal definition. Being free to do whatever I want, of course, by maintaining the prevailing norms and values is a form of success that I feel. Money, position, career may be the benchmark for many people to say that they have achieved success. I don't want to measure my success by what other people see about my life, but I prefer to feel success that I can feel for myself even though it may not be a form of success by what they see of me. I get used to targeting something, and if it is achieved then it is a success for me even though it may be a simple thing for others.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: jaberwock on November 09, 2022, 08:38:36 PM
Money is the first thing people look for. but in my opinion, the definition of success is not only in the form of money. success is the success of everyone's hard work.

success is not only beneficial for yourself, but also beneficial for everyone.
If it's only a small amount of money, yes we need it daily but big amounts of it? Not really. There are people who can define their success from achieving or obtaining other things and this don't include bigger amounts of money. Education for example.

There are free education given to us by our local government. Skills is also free to learn. Success is also beneficial to others in a sense that they are going to feel good or proud of you because they see you strive hard on achieving your goals. It can be your parent or the people that support you financially or through encouraging words when the time that you are down and feel like giving up.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: milewilda on November 09, 2022, 10:28:26 PM
Money is the first thing people look for. but in my opinion, the definition of success is not only in the form of money. success is the success of everyone's hard work.

success is not only beneficial for yourself, but also beneficial for everyone.
If it's only a small amount of money, yes we need it daily but big amounts of it? Not really. There are people who can define their success from achieving or obtaining other things and this don't include bigger amounts of money. Education for example.

There are free education given to us by our local government. Skills is also free to learn. Success is also beneficial to others in a sense that they are going to feel good or proud of you because they see you strive hard on achieving your goals. It can be your parent or the people that support you financially or through encouraging words when the time that you are down and feel like giving up.
Yes, everything would come in line when you do attain or achieve a certain thing neither on career,education or something which money earning opportunity would be an inevitable for you to gain once you had able to
achieve these things.Success would really come into different form or achievement because we do have our own personal targets and goals in life.Its true that not everyone do really long for having lots of money
but also on achieving which is something that they do wish for specially when they are just small or on the time that they had established out their lives. Some do really matter most on having a
nice and successful career and some do really just simply wants a simple living without having any major problems in life.Anything is really considered as long we are that contented.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Paul Pogba on November 11, 2022, 10:19:15 AM
In my opinion, the measure of success is money, fame, achievement, power and so on, of course, it will make money, and with money we can buy all things automatically, for example position, power, and so on, and with money there are many positive things we can do, for example. help people out of poverty or hunger.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: RolonNigel on November 12, 2022, 07:04:17 AM
Success is too big a word. I might do a good job at my job, and I'll feel like I'm successful. I am a very self-satisfied person. I think success is easy, it depends on how you define it. Having a good family and having a lot of money is success for me.
We will give ourselves one and one tasks, and even if the "task is successful", we will still have many tasks waiting for us to complete.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Celinena on November 12, 2022, 07:27:21 AM
I think it is happiness, value, and health. Of course, happiness includes health. A person's sense of value to society is one of the sources of happiness. A person's sense of value comes from one's own awareness. Where your awareness is, your value is Where.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: xSkylarx on November 12, 2022, 07:58:29 AM

In my opinion, the measure of success is money, fame, achievement, power and so on, of course, it will make money, and with money we can buy all things automatically, for example position, power, and so on, and with money there are many positive things we can do, for example. help people out of poverty or hunger.

Your center is really money and nothing else. You should also think that money is not the only source of happiness; contentment and also family are. It isn't always all about money. Though you really have a point, we need money to help others and also our selves, but let's not just focus on money; let's focus on helping others and also improving ourselves to be better. It can help us and our country.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: BRINIRHA on November 12, 2022, 09:44:10 AM
Most people will define success with those words: Money, fame, and also achievement or position in occupation.
But, are they exactly the indicators of success? The indicators may be various, but most people will see someone as successful with those three terms at least. Being popular, rich, and also having good position will raise a person's point of view of that person, will make others shy and fascinated.
But for me, my success is when I can do whatever I want to do and I can have whatever that I want to have, and I can make myself and people around me be happy. Simple.
exactly as you said. that the essence of success is happiness itself. However, there are many ways to achieve this happiness. For example, an ordinary person who dreams of becoming a celebrity. and finally his wish was achieved with the hard work he had put in. and he was happy. Now it means that someone has been successful in achieving his goals or desires and the prize of success is happiness itself and the bonus is fame and money. so success can also be interpreted as "achievement of a desire, achieve a dream (achievement)".


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: sana54210 on November 12, 2022, 04:04:09 PM
everything would come in line when you do attain or achieve a certain thing neither on career,education or something which money earning opportunity would be an inevitable for you to gain once you had able to
achieve these things.Success would really come into different form or achievement because we do have our own personal targets and goals in life.Its true that not everyone do really long for having lots of money
but also on achieving which is something that they do wish for specially when they are just small or on the time that they had established out their lives. Some do really matter most on having a
nice and successful career and some do really just simply wants a simple living without having any major problems in life.Anything is really considered as long we are that contented.
I think it’s more about artistic reasons, and artists would consider these trio, regular people do not have these options.

I mean if you are a boring accountant with small office, dealing with the corner 3 shops that makes like few thousand per month at most, and they pay you 500 bucks each etc, that type of small time earner and so forth then I am sorry but you are not going to ask "money or fame or achievement" you would consider how to get more people to do their accounting and that’s it, otherwise it makes no sense to me at all to focus on fame for example as an accountant for example. Or as a carpenter, or a washer, or a mechanic, fame is not an option, that’s artists.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Dickiy on November 12, 2022, 05:07:14 PM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
the picture you give is as if wealth is everything and is the goal of the pinnacle of life's happiness.
Yes, it is natural that most people want to be rich because of their privileges and popularity among the elite. This is in line with weekend films which display a lot of special appearances and life facilities in the course of the story, thus attracting other people to own these facilities.
but the orientation of other people's happiness is different, like Albert Einstein with his research, so in my opinion, stop indoctrinating people to be rich, because not a few rich and popular people are stressed and commit suicide.
being rich automatically requires us to be someone else, there is nothing wrong with being someone who is idolized but it is not a good thing for ourselves either, in my opinion, true happiness is to be yourself, not to be someone else.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: silbertlee on November 14, 2022, 01:32:38 AM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
Many people have their different definition of success,  some people  believe success is success, it doesn't matter how it comes.
But to me the main definition of success is anything that can be achieved by merit. In life success different phases, and the end product of success in life is to be able to afford the necessary things life requires as a man.

From the early stage of life we pursue education and if it is well achieved then we can call that success,  the next stage of life is to go after our different career that can be means for survival,  no matter the amount of money it brings  it is success as far as it keeps man going.


Success is a positive feeling, and if I feel like I've accomplished something, and I've done it, that sense of satisfaction and accomplishment in my heart is what I understand to be success. If you want to be successful, it's easier said than done. Whether it is fame, money and honor. As long as you are happy, you are successful.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: xSkylarx on November 14, 2022, 03:39:12 AM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

Success is measured by goals achieved, whether for fame or money, and it is called a success when someone achieves their goal. Though you may have heard that success is not always happiness, many successful people are unhappy because they are so focused on making money that they forget about their happiness. This is where the satisfaction comes in. Sometimes we don't get our goals, but we are satisfied with where we are and happy about it. I would rather be happy and healthy than successful but sad, and I am not happily spending my wealth.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Balmain on November 14, 2022, 05:43:03 AM
First of all, I would like to start with a quote that I love. “You are not as successful as the money you earn but as successful as your freedom.” Is money the only measure of success? No way. There are primary and secondary metrics to measure success. By career field, primary and secondary criteria differ. Money is the primary criterion of success for businessmen, while the level of culture is the secondary criterion. For artists and intellectuals, it's the opposite. For example; Is Van Gogh successful, whose life was spent in poverty? Of course, there's success in his soul.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: freedomgo on November 14, 2022, 04:06:14 PM
I think to one point it's money. When you have your basic needs fulfilled and you have a decent home, a car and have all the things you need on table you look for higher goals.
Like our creative persuits. Our prospective for lives. Fulfilling higher goals become paradigm of success.
Money may only be a “means” to make you successful but it will never define a man’s success. For me, I can only say that I have succeeded in life if end up living my life with satisfaction and contentment. Though no man gets to meet satisfaction in our entire life, but we can always be contented even in small things around us. Money may motivate people to be successful in the future, but IRL, it’s the goal that motivate us and not because of money.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: ammo121810 on May 05, 2023, 05:54:39 AM
Success can be define in many different ways and it vary from different persons. Some people may view success as accumulating or earning more money, while others may see it if they had achieved fame or they are making positive impact on the world. Success depends on individual's values, objectives and priorities. It is important to define success for ourselves and strive towards our own goals, avoid comparing ourselves to the achievement of other people because every individual have their own version of success.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: siniminomorocomunisakito on May 05, 2023, 07:04:33 AM
Most people will define success with those words: Money, fame, and also achievement or position in occupation.
But, are they exactly the indicators of success? The indicators may be various, but most people will see someone as successful with those three terms at least. Being popular, rich, and also having good position will raise a person's point of view of that person, will make others shy and fascinated.
But for me, my success is when I can do whatever I want to do and I can have whatever that I want to have, and I can make myself and people around me be happy. Simple.

In my opinion, success is about personal growth, pursuing passion, and making a positive impact on the world around us. It's about setting goals and working to achieve them, and enjoying the journey along the way. It's also about maintaining balance in life, having meaningful relationships, and being content with what we have while striving for more.

I myself assumed that success should be measured by my own standards and not by external factors such as wealth, fame or status. Living a simple life without financial debt means a lot to me and my family.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: BRINIRHA on May 05, 2023, 07:14:14 AM
Success can be define in many different ways and it vary from different persons. Some people may view success as accumulating or earning more money, while others may see it if they had achieved fame or they are making positive impact on the world. Success depends on individual's values, objectives and priorities. It is important to define success for ourselves and strive towards our own goals, avoid comparing ourselves to the achievement of other people because every individual have their own version of success.
yeah i agree with you. We should not compare the achievements in our lives with other people. because everyone has a different definition of success. And also because everyone has a way of making themselves happy.

But there is one thing in common that can be regarded as a measure of success in general. that is, when we have succeeded in achieving what we aspire to or what we dream of, that is what is called success. Because there will arise a separate satisfaction and happiness of its own. and at some point or the core point of success is happiness. be it with money, fame or anything else then all of that is just a tool to get happiness.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: glendall on May 05, 2023, 07:15:20 AM
true  success,not for  "money, fame because not everything can be bought with money,
but the point of view of many people who say successful people have money, fame is not from seeing the achievements they have
and everyone's success criteria are also different, right?


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: mm2543363580 on May 05, 2023, 07:30:50 AM
Your success is your achievements in life money and fame will come automatically with that but what defines your success Is what you have achieved and where you have reached in your life. People now totally mix success with money and fame which is not true .


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: kojektea on May 05, 2023, 07:38:31 AM
I don't judge my success based on anything that looks more than me. but I am very happy if I can meet the needs of my life every day. Even if I don't have a lot of money saved as long as I can still work to be able to eat something it's something I'm proud of. yes, but sometimes not everyone has this mindset, some people choose to have everything, but I think that the pursuit of wealth immediately is also greed.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: G_Besar on May 05, 2023, 09:21:15 AM
In my opinion, success is about personal growth, pursuing passion, and making a positive impact on the world around us. It's about setting goals and working to achieve them, and enjoying the journey along the way. It's also about maintaining balance in life, having meaningful relationships, and being content with what we have while striving for more.
Your opinion looks quite logical too, but in living life and struggling to earn more income, everyone will never be satisfied with what they already have as long as what they have can run out when they use it every day. Because I see only a small number of people who are satisfied when their life looks simple and they are always grateful for what they have now, but most will never be satisfied with what they already have so they are still struggling to get more results in their life

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I myself assumed that success should be measured by my own standards and not by external factors such as wealth, fame or status. Living a simple life without financial debt means a lot to me and my family.
Living without debt is a very perfect life in my opinion and it's much calmer even though you haven't got more of the assets that are being dreamed of. But the struggle must go according to plan as long as you are still healthy and able to make it happen, because there are more fun things to enjoy than just living a simple life. It is getting rich after a long struggle at something or at a job that you have always loved.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on May 05, 2023, 10:24:45 AM
I think to one point it's money. When you have your basic needs fulfilled and you have a decent home, a car and have all the things you need on table you look for higher goals.
Like our creative persuits. Our prospective for lives. Fulfilling higher goals become paradigm of success.
Money may only be a “means” to make you successful but it will never define a man’s success. For me, I can only say that I have succeeded in life if end up living my life with satisfaction and contentment. Though no man gets to meet satisfaction in our entire life, but we can always be contented even in small things around us. Money may motivate people to be successful in the future, but IRL, it’s the goal that motivate us and not because of money.

Agree with these. I have the idea that success is not measured on how rich you got in terms of monetary value but rather on how you do with life. Money would always be a part of human life to live but it is not enough for us to be satisfied since there is more to life other than this. You might get all the money, but if you made it in the wrong thing, or you might hurt someone along the way, I think you would not be able to truly be satisfied with that success. Indeed, human have constant desire for satisfaction, and we have a lifetime to be limited in single success, so make life full of meaning and little success since in this way I can see that this would let us feel the genuine feeling of success when we got old. So, the thing that I can consider success is the little achievements that I have done through the right way in the course of my life, as well as the succeeding achievements that I can achieve in the future.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Rabata on May 05, 2023, 11:46:17 AM
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
Appreciating your superior knowledge on success. If everyone could see the society or the country or the world from the point of view you want to see, then today our society, the country and the world would have a different dimension. I think people nowadays give more importance for getting success by earning more money and after that they are interested in power. But many don't have time to see that there is another definition of success. People are now looking for their success through financial income which will never be found but they will continue to try. People are getting educated now but there is a great lack of sense of humor among them.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: ringgo96 on May 05, 2023, 11:54:10 AM
For me success is a tranquility that we can always feel, because very many we find people who have a lot of money and already have everything but they don't have peace there are always problems to face, but all we need money but in addition we also have to be able to enjoy comfortably and the money we use is indeed the result of hard work not spoils, Then there are all ways to live successfully and peacefully.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: mm2543363580 on May 05, 2023, 12:22:12 PM
For some people everything is about money so for them their success is money,  they don't want to achieve anything in life means they as ambitionless and goalless people who don't have any dream and passion in life all they want is to earn money by any means .
For me success is your achievements that makes your a complete person   your hardwork is everything in your life . Fame is optional if you want to get famous you can and if you want to remain undercover and low profile you can do that too.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Slow death on May 05, 2023, 12:42:02 PM
people are very strange, we can think that money does not bring happiness to people or that fame and money do not make a person successful, but there are people who are very happy with their wealth, there are people who consider themselves successful with fame and the wealth they achieved, I know it sounds strange but each person has a dream and goal in life, there are people who are very rich but consider themselves failures, so to become successful they enter the world of crime because it was their dream being great criminals able to make everyone fear them

there are people who want to dominate the world, even though they are very rich, they enter politics because they want to be president of a country and start wars, to show their power, you might think that by doing that they are not happy, but you would be wrong, that kind of evil people to the soul feel happy to make thousands of people suffer, the reality is that in this world each person knows what will make him happy or successful and we cannot think that what we have in our head about how person X should be for to become happy or successful is what is right, it is up to person X to choose his own path that he thinks will make him happy and successful.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Wildwest on May 05, 2023, 02:33:46 PM
everything needs money but not everything we can count on with money, because many people like now who already have a lot of money but they never feel happiness, and they only think about money but don't care what way they do to get money and they dare commit crimes for money, for me peace is more important even though our money is limited but everything we do is safe and there are no problems then that is a success that I have had, now many people define success wrongly so they do things which do not comply with government regulations.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: alastantiger on May 05, 2023, 04:00:26 PM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

Having so much money or being rich does not necessary mean that you are successful.
I classify success by the people you help when you became successful. There are many wealthy people around the globe who become wealthy through the wrong direction and to me i cant classify them as being success. A true successful man who worked hard to be wealthy is quit different from those who did ritual to get his wealth.
How hard you work legally to make your money is how i measure successful.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Uruhara on May 05, 2023, 04:13:32 PM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
At least I also see that the pinnacle of success is not just about money and fame. But indeed everything is about a satisfaction and happiness that arises after we have succeeded in achieving all the goals we want to achieve.

Everyone's success is also different levels according to what ideals he made in his life. Even parents will feel that they have found great success if they succeed in giving birth and educating their children to be good people who are devoted to themselves as parents, and succeed in educating their children to become prosperous people in their lives, both financially and prosperously emotionally.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: gunhell16 on May 05, 2023, 04:17:08 PM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

I believe that money cannot buy a person's happiness and satisfaction. But money is still part of achieving dreams such as a dream house and lot, cars, and business, these are just some of the material dreams of people that involve money to achieve it.

Now that happiness and satisfaction are contained in people who don't aspire to high dreams, the simple life that they are happy and contented with who don't aspire for fancy houses and cars.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Uruhara on May 05, 2023, 04:56:12 PM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

I believe that money cannot buy a person's happiness and satisfaction. But money is still part of achieving dreams such as a dream house and lot, cars, and business, these are just some of the material dreams of people that involve money to achieve it.

Now that happiness and satisfaction are contained in people who don't aspire to high dreams, the simple life that they are happy and contented with who don't aspire for fancy houses and cars.

I agree that not everything can be bought with money. But on the one hand, to buy materialistic things that we want, we have to use money. So I also don't wonder if people are happy with having more money. because he feels as if the world is in his hands when he holds a lot of money.

but if we are grateful people and feel happy with what we have then money is not a source of happiness. but accepting what is, enjoying what is and not being greedy with what we don't have, things like that make it easier for us to achieve happiness. and the pinnacle of success is indeed happiness. because what is the meaning of an abundant wealth if we do not have a feeling of happiness.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Kelward on May 05, 2023, 05:57:25 PM
In economics, they say that human needs are insatiable. Therefore in the journey of climbing the ladder of success, you will realise that as you reach your desired peak, that there is something more  intriguing, more awesome that is farther up the ladder. When you eventually reach that height, you will still see something more fancier. Eventually the person wears himself out. So we need contentment at a certain stage, to be able to relax and enjoy what we have achieved so far.

Either of the three, money, fame and achievement are all important, if you want to be called a successful person. But of the three, I will say that achievement stands out for me. Because you are not remembered by how much money that you left in  bank account or fame that never impacted on anybody, but your are remembered by your achievements in life.






Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: cryptoknightt on May 05, 2023, 06:20:02 PM
I think success is when we have enough money for ourselves and also the people around us, maybe not many people agree, but some problems in life can be solved with money, so I think the measure of success is when we have money and we don't forget to help our closest people


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: uswa56 on May 05, 2023, 06:43:03 PM
I think success is when we have enough money for ourselves and also the people around us, maybe not many people agree, but some problems in life can be solved with money, so I think the measure of success is when we have money and we don't forget to help our closest people
that's right, money allows us to get many things including fame and achievement, all of that requires money even though many say that money is not everything but in my opinion everything you want to get requires money and money can make everything easy.
Likewise with success, the level of success in the eyes of many people in this world is when we have a lot of money regardless if it is accompanied by fame or achievements that are achieved, but that is the view of many people.
everyone wants us to be able to show results regardless of what it is, and I agree with that.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: MFahad on May 05, 2023, 06:59:29 PM
CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

You are right that successful man is who is satisfied with his life but in the world where we live money is the most powerful thing and people consider that wealthy man is successful. In this world people prefer money more than humanity but we should avoid these things because money cannot define one's success but behavior does. As money is everything for individuals therefore they don't give any value to the poor people but the fact is that may be a poor people having no money but their life is satisfied, they have sweet relationships and having complete family but on the other hand may be a person have lots of money but is alone having no relative so money does not defines one's happiness.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: cafee_orange on May 05, 2023, 08:02:13 PM
Everyone loves to become a successful being but success definition differs for everyone. Most people see success as being fame and rich. Although money is a huge driving factor for a lot of things and an ultimate measuring stick for whether or not a business is successful but this doesn't fully define success. Success is about claiming and speaking up for what is important to you. Consider these and tell if they are successful

👉👉a rich and a famous man with a broken home
👉👉a rich and a famous man that has failed to impact on others.
👉👉a money corrupt rich and famous man
👉👉a ritualist with great fame.

Although this people are rich and famous but aren't successful at my own part. There is always a shortcut to riches and being famous but success comes through hardwork. There are many rich and famous people who have attempted suicides in their life. If being rich is being successful, then what made them to take such disastrous steps? Sanjay Dutt is a son of a famous politician and is one of the richest celebrities, Sunil Dutt. Still, he is behind lock-up. Is this what we call as success? Many gangstar becomes rich out of crime and corruption but they are not successful in our society. This is part of what causes increasement in crime rate and corruption in the world as everyone want to be rich so as to be called a successful being. A successful man is one who finds his purpose and creates a life where he can fulfill that purpose.

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

I think there will be many definitions of success, and of course there will also be many different arguments and it also depends on someone's point of view in my opinion.
I think a person's success cannot be judged by the amount of money he has and the fame of a luxurious life, this cannot be a measure for judging someone who is successful, but in my view someone who can be said to be successful is someone who does not have any problems in his life.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: ichsan ardi on May 05, 2023, 08:41:57 PM
Everyone loves to become a successful being but success definition differs for everyone. Most people see success as being fame and rich. Although money is a huge driving factor for a lot of things and an ultimate measuring stick for whether or not a business is successful but this doesn't fully define success. Success is about claiming and speaking up for what is important to you. Consider these and tell if they are successful

👉👉a rich and a famous man with a broken home
👉👉a rich and a famous man that has failed to impact on others.
👉👉a money corrupt rich and famous man
👉👉a ritualist with great fame.

Although this people are rich and famous but aren't successful at my own part. There is always a shortcut to riches and being famous but success comes through hardwork. There are many rich and famous people who have attempted suicides in their life. If being rich is being successful, then what made them to take such disastrous steps? Sanjay Dutt is a son of a famous politician and is one of the richest celebrities, Sunil Dutt. Still, he is behind lock-up. Is this what we call as success? Many gangstar becomes rich out of crime and corruption but they are not successful in our society. This is part of what causes increasement in crime rate and corruption in the world as everyone want to be rich so as to be called a successful being. A successful man is one who finds his purpose and creates a life where he can fulfill that purpose.

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

the definition of success in my own opinion is being useful for other people and family not trapped in financial problems and being able to help more people I agree that money cannot buy happiness but one of the main factors to success is financial freedom because with money we can help more people and do good to everyone I think the most important success is regardless of any financial problems money is not the most important thing in this world but money is the important point the first three are healthy the second is family and the third money with money we can make it easier to get to the first point
do you agree or not?


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Myleschetty on May 05, 2023, 09:41:13 PM
Success cant be defined as money, fame, or achievement alone. Success is just you thriving in all your activities and I can categorize knowing Bitcoin at this stage as a success for me because some people are looking for this opportunity which is right in front of them but they still believe Bitcoin is a scam.
Therefore, I see success as you had something others didn't have and it could be money, food, cloth, good marriage, etc.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: rahmad2nd on May 05, 2023, 10:22:08 PM

In the process, all normal people want success or we can say want to get wealth. fame, or whatever it's called, all normal humans, want it. unfortunately, not everyone is lucky in the process. even so, as you said. after someone achieves what he wants in his life, on the other hand he fails in his household, there are also those who commit suicide like many famous South Korean artists. yes, they are depressed, they experience shocks after becoming famous and rich. but the fact is, life is not as beautiful as what we want and dream of. which in the end, everyone defines success in different ways. but for sure, we have to keep doing something like doing business, working, to bring in income so that life goes on.


CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

Well, not everyone can interpret the gist of what you conclude. at least, everyone will experience phase after phase in his life until he is able to make peace with himself, that money, fame, are not the only measure of success. rather, the culmination of everything is happiness, even though happiness is temporary.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: KennyR on May 05, 2023, 11:59:10 PM
Success according to me is the recognition for what I've did. I haven't did big things, but I've seen more good people around the world doing big things to the human lives and unrecognised. It'll give them a feel of success when recognised.

Everything is necessary in life. However the priority need to be on humanity. I've seen people who give respect for their position and for the money. This needs to change, people need to start respecting each other, just because you and me are human beings.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: MoonOfLife on May 06, 2023, 01:10:58 AM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

I believe that money cannot buy a person's happiness and satisfaction. But money is still part of achieving dreams such as a dream house and lot, cars, and business, these are just some of the material dreams of people that involve money to achieve it.

Now that happiness and satisfaction are contained in people who don't aspire to high dreams, the simple life that they are happy and contented with who don't aspire for fancy houses and cars.


Money can buy everything, including health, not just happiness. If your loved one is seriously ill and needs a lot of money for surgery, while you don't have money, they will die, you have money, they will live, so money can also buy health. In marriage, if there is no money, it will lead to quarrels, blaming each other, and deadlock in life, leading to divorce. But if you have money, those troubles won't happen, and your marriage will be perfect.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Pujangga on May 06, 2023, 04:41:08 AM
In my opinion, the measure of success is money, if we become officials, artists, world athletes, and so on, of course, we will be rewarded with money, when famous people become poor, then all the things they try look useless.

This is what makes me prefer and focus on money than fame, achievement or anything else.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: rby on May 06, 2023, 08:48:22 AM

CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.
A successful man is a happy man. And the happiest people of the world (Finland), concentrate more on what makes them happy rather than looking successful. This is according to an interview granted a Finland man as they emerged at the top of the happiest people in the world.
However all  these are inter related, it is difficult to achieve happiness without money. So, money is needed, if not in excess, it should be in moderation as a poor man may never be a happy man.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: AnonBitCoiner on May 06, 2023, 05:49:25 PM
But is there anyone who really achieves satisfaction?
When people reach one stage of success, they will try to achieve another (greater) success. That's how people define their own non-constant success goals, where they reach a higher point then they will find new thoughts that affect the goal. And changing the financial aspect for the better is the majority of their success goals.
Uncontested.

Yes you are right that there is no one who is happy with their life because wishes of people does not completed forever they are still incomplete even they get everything. A person thoughts are changing regularly and I think that these thoughts arises by visualizing the life of others.

It is not a good way because copying others will increase your tension but will never help you to achieve you life's goals. It is necessary to life a unique life so may be the things which you have will make you satisfied with your life.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: nesty on May 09, 2023, 12:01:45 AM
Success may vary from different persons. Some may define success in terms of financial stability and accumulating wealth. While to others success can be achieving personal goals. I think fame is also factor to define success. Money fame and achievement are all important factors in defining success, they represents different aspects of a persons life and are not necessarily interchangeable. To better achieve success in life we need to pursue our target goals, we need to identify what needs to be done, how we will do it, how to implement it and how we will accomplish it.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Sexylizzy2813 on May 10, 2023, 03:49:54 AM
Success can be all in one money, fame or achievement but I see those 3 working together. Someone can have money but not famous and hasn't achieved anything depending on what he/she wants.


CONCLUSION
Let's stop making money and fame the only measure for success. Being successful is being happy and satisfied with ones fully achieved dreams. Money cannot buy satisfaction and happiness. Satisfaction and happiness is the true definition of success and anyone without this can not be declare as being successful.

In this life as humans we can never be satisfied no matter what we have in store, like we want more of it, even the richest man on earth still goes around commanding his business while he has excess money on his account even if he spends a lot in a day it won't show that he's spending, is like something we humans have in us to never be satisfied.
If I'm satisfied and happy (no money) and there's nothing on the table for me to feed on how is that going to work out for me? I can't call that success. Having money alone brings the other two (fame & achievement) together but it depends on where your target is. To me if I have money that would make me feel comfortable then I'm good to go, my money will speak for me better instead of working myself out. Well, all I can say is we're humans and can never be SATISFIED!!!


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Jatiluhung on May 10, 2023, 06:56:03 AM
Success may vary from different persons. Some may define success in terms of financial stability and accumulating wealth. While to others success can be achieving personal goals. I think fame is also factor to define success. Money fame and achievement are all important factors in defining success, they represents different aspects of a persons life and are not necessarily interchangeable. To better achieve success in life we need to pursue our target goals, we need to identify what needs to be done, how we will do it, how to implement it and how we will accomplish it.
The point is that so that we can achieve success, we must first have what we dream of (ideals) that we make as our goals for achieving success. Then we study the factors that can support us so that it is easier and faster to reach our goal. then we work hard in earnest and stay focused on what we are aiming for. And we also have to admit that in the process towards success there will definitely be many things that we have to sacrifice. be it in the form of time, effort, mind and money. And we hope that when we achieve success, all that we have sacrificed will return to us with more value and more. be it materially or otherwise. Fame, money and power. everything is a symbol of success. But everyone does have their own goals in determining success.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: nara1892 on June 23, 2023, 06:37:22 AM
Success may vary from different persons. Some may define success in terms of financial stability and accumulating wealth. While to others success can be achieving personal goals. I think fame is also factor to define success. Money fame and achievement are all important factors in defining success, they represents different aspects of a persons life and are not necessarily interchangeable. To better achieve success in life we need to pursue our target goals, we need to identify what needs to be done, how we will do it, how to implement it and how we will accomplish it.
The point is that so that we can achieve success, we must first have what we dream of (ideals) that we make as our goals for achieving success. Then we study the factors that can support us so that it is easier and faster to reach our goal. then we work hard in earnest and stay focused on what we are aiming for. And we also have to admit that in the process towards success there will definitely be many things that we have to sacrifice. be it in the form of time, effort, mind and money. And we hope that when we achieve success, all that we have sacrificed will return to us with more value and more. be it materially or otherwise. Fame, money and power. everything is a symbol of success. But everyone does have their own goals in determining success.
Yes, that's right, set goals that we have to achieve in front of us, and when we can make it happen it is one of the successes that we have achieved. Of course the word success for everyone has their own definition, depending on what needs or satisfaction they want to achieve or feel. Some people might think about money, some other people might think about careers, there are even simpler things than that like succeeding in creating a small happy family for example.
The simplest success in my personal opinion is when I can help when other people need it, whatever it is, whether it's thoughts, energy or money.


Title: Re: What define your success, "money, fame or achievement"?
Post by: Lamkuthang on June 25, 2023, 04:54:51 AM
Yes, that's right, set goals that we have to achieve in front of us, and when we can make it happen it is one of the successes that we have achieved. Of course the word success for everyone has their own definition, depending on what needs or satisfaction they want to achieve or feel. Some people might think about money, some other people might think about careers, there are even simpler things than that like succeeding in creating a small happy family for example.
The simplest success in my personal opinion is when I can help when other people need it, whatever it is, whether it's thoughts, energy or money.

Yes, that's right! It may sound simple but has a deep meaning. meaning you don't have to be rich or have massive achievements to feel successful. Sometimes, our greatest happiness comes from moments when we can contribute and make a difference in other people's lives where When we can help them sincerely selflessly for those who really need it, Taste never lies and it gives us a feeling of fulfillment and purpose what a life.

I think it's as simple as that. You don't have to wait to become famous or have a lot of wealth to start helping if you want to do something. and I think all of us here can also do something, no matter how small, to make this world a better place like you nara1892  give objective thoughts with realistic suggestions.