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Please note this post is not intended to disrespect anyone, I'm just a curious newbie on the Platform, who wants to know as much as possible on how the forum operate. So if you feel offended, I'm sorry as it's not my intentions to.

• Reading from various section of the platform I discover that some higher rank members are always meriting themselves, despite having some low level of low quality post, why newbies ends up with nothing irrespective of how informative their post is. This system isn't really favorable to Newbies.

• Reading from post history of some of Higher rank members, I discover a lot of low quality Contents, yet they rank up so many merits, Same goes to some newbies with so much positivity, full of information on their content, such post might just end up getting one merit, Why legendary members with low quality Contents, rank up so many merits. I'm wondering why it's so

• Having gone through so many sections of the platform, One can easily discover that there are some group of people that keeps meriting various post, This are the higher rank members who are always at the forefront in seeing newbies grow and increase their rank. And a big thank you to them all

After my observation, i concluded that most higher rank members are selfish with the merit system.

Also few days ago, I came across a post, With random low content, yet one of the higher rank member sent out 30 plus merit to such a low content post. And I'm wondering, what's going on, this prompt this to my head.

" the merit system has been greatly abused by some higher rank members "

Some people like to give out merits to legendary members because they value their opinion more than for say, a newbie account. I don't think this is abuse because you own the merits so you can send it to whoever you want (unless you're a merit source).

Do you mind posting those low quality posts that got merited ? so that we can all see if it's true or not.

Older members are more likely to stay here so I think that plays a big role in it. I've seen quite a few newer members with lots of merit and more merits than activity so I doubt it's a full "everyone's selfish" and more an "I'm a bad quality poster" or "I don't post in the boards where most merits are given" with the additional option of being someone who posts a lot of questions and doesn't contribute as much to topics or themselves by offering something interesting to the discussion.

A lot of merit sources would also rather use up their source merits than just have them burnt so there's probably a role that plays too in all this. If you're enjoying the forum, don't look at merits because they'll probably come soon anyway if you're a good poster or become one.

Merit abuse is when you send smerits to your alt accounts, or you trade smerits for BTC or any other type of payment option, i do not consider sending a big number of smerits to a member as merit abuse because Theymos said:

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Not earning merits and seeing other users earn them doesn't make it merit abuse just because it is not in your favor then, it may be happening for many reasons. Post quality aside, this quote from Pmalek seems to be the main reason why member's may not get merits from merit sources and member's that aren't merit sources, you may not be showing up in topics that interest them:

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These threads help to make it easier if you are not showing up in topics that interest merit sources as it takes your post directly to them:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410264.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.0

High rank members have been on the forum long enough to have built that network of "friends/colleagues " which means they already have an audience that recognizes them.

Then comes the issue of newbies getting little to zero merits for the so called constructive posts, well not getting any is simply trying to promote consistency in those good posts and lastly one has to go through the venting process to ensure you are a real user with good intentions and not a farmer. Put in the work it will sure pay, just hang in there mate.

Since merit awarding is subjective, there is not overly right or wrong usage of them, although the moral compass does kind of point towards the merited posts being interesting in one way or another to the reader at least.

People likely, overtime, grow more keen to visiting certain sections, and may take a shine to some profiles the frequently encounter there for a variety of reasons. In my close to 5 years on the forum, I’ve merited 2.079 different users so far, having sent more than 24K sMerits to date (see data here (https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/ddmrddmr/viz/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/PotentialMeritSources)). Now of course there will be some profiles amongst those I encounter frequently (i.e. on my local board) and others sparecely, despite being quite a few hours on the forum insofar. There is content I may be inclined to read, and other that I find unsubstantial and tend to skip, as well as areas that are not in the scope of my reading habits on the forum.

Of the posts that I do read, more often than not, the best answers are provided by profiles that have been on the forum for quite a while, which is seemingly logical since they know more both of the topics being discussed and the ropes to the forum itself. There are counter examples of course of all sorts, but that is their competitive advantage, built over time.
Lower ranks may find it hard to post something different, that does not reiterate what’s already been said, and therefore find it harder to earn merits. Many of the profiles here have been there, and it’s generally overcome with time and effort, although admittedly at different paces.

There are obviously going to be plenty of meriting examples people would not agree with, thus the intention of the forum to be diverse in criteria though multiple Merit Sources and individual Meriters. Could it be better? Sure, though no solid proposal has been seriously placed on the table that I can recall.

The forum does not directly moderate the Merit System, each user can give Merit to posts objectively with high quality.

Maybe this is one example of what the OP meant https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2992259.msg30856756#msg30856756.

Don't give up before fighting, I've never heard of the Merit system being unfavorable for Newbies before. Are you aware that there are many Newbies who have succeeded in becoming Legendary after the Merit system was implemented.
The forums have a very generous Merit Source, they will distribute sMerit on worthy posts. No one is excluding anyone if the post they own deserves merit, Merit Source never sees the post belongs to a Newbie or not, they will continue to distribute Merit to whoever has quality posts.

You have to be a quality poster on the forums, tell yourself "GOODBYE SPAMMERS". Improve the quality of posts to get some Merits, only you can determine whether your account level can go to a higher level or not, it all depends on the posts you have.

Apparently, you read a lot, but understand very little of it all. If you see a post that is of low quality by your standards and that same post has received a lot of merits, then know that the post does not necessarily have to be of high quality in order to receive a merit.


You have been on the forum for too short a time to draw any meaningful conclusions, but all these conclusions stem from the fact that you have received only 1 merit so far, which is obviously frustrating for you. You are not the first or the last to have such a problem, but by persistently presenting your observations, I concluded that you are not here for knowledge, but that you have something completely different in mind - convince me that I am wrong.

One important thing that obviously escaped your observations ->  [TOP-200] Members who support newbies (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034141.msg45969154#msg45969154)

A lot of times high ranks get a bad rap of only mostly giving merits to other high ranks. But in the end — why are most of them high ranks in the first place? Because they contribute a lot to the forum in the first place hence why they receive merits!

Of course this doesn't apply to 100% of high ranks; there are definitely abusers, but they're minuscule in the grand scheme of things as far as I know.

I completely disagree with you, my Legendary member, And it's funny how you draw your conclusion honestly.

The person who introduced me to this platform is a Legendary member, there's nothing stopping him from meriting my post whenever he reads them.

What lead me into Bitcoin talk forum, was simply my zeal to know more about BTC, as well as the trading aspect, Succeeding in the crypto world. I've asked a lot of questions which eventually led to LordB, telling me you know what, there's a place to get all Answers to your questions. That's how I arrived here

If you could read through my explore history, you will realized I've spent so much time in various places and section of the forum, And whenever I found something new or strange I ask questions.

As you know, Questions don't attract merits, Contribution did, do you think I will continue to enclose my self in something I know that yields nothing and still continue. You've got to give it a thought before concluding.

In as much as I also want to be ranked, and share my ranked journey just as every other person,  Knowledge is important and I will definitely go for it, If I wanted a merit or rank, I will simply purchase rank, But what gain does it yield buying a copper member rank, Without proper knowledge of what BTC is.

Going forward, I've encountered lot of random response, which even goes on to get 50, 30, 25, and more merit, at the same time, you will found a newbie account with a superb, Constructive, and informative response, yet no single merit, my only wrong doing is not puting the links together and thanks to the member who brought this one here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2992259.msg30856756#msg30856756

I've seen a lot of low quality response like this from ranked members getting so much merit, but a newbie with far more, recieves nothing, My target is to learn as much as I can, so I can also impact someone else, so with all due respect, your Observations and conclusion is totally wrong 100% Respect to you.

I might like a pair of jeans, while you find them ugly. You might consider the shoes you wear fashionable, but maybe I wouldn't wear them if you gave them to me for free. Posts can be similar to that. I merit whatever I think is good and if I have the needed amount of merits. I don't merit what I don't like or if I don't have the needed merits at the time. So just because I didn't merit a post, doesn't necessarily mean it's bad and I don't like it. It's subjective. Legendary accounts with 3k, 5k, or 10k merits didn't get there by accident or by share luck. Their contributions, quality, and quantity of posting got them there. Each well-thought post is a new chance to get merited. Each new shit post isn't. It just adds to the numbers and nothing else.

It's hard to comment on what you consider a low or a high quality post unless you show proper examples of that. I can then tell you if I agree with those merits or not.

Again there are no examples, which makes it impossible to improve this discussion. Maybe your interpretation of what a quality post should look like is just wrong. 

Link to the post, and let's talk about it. 

Good questions also attract merits. I merit questions and OPs that foster quality discussions. But of course, the solutions to those questions are worth more.     

Try to find a few examples and I will merit them if I find them merit-worthy and have the needed merits.

That post is 4 years old, and it was written just one month after the merit system was implemented on Bitcointalk if I am not mistaken. At the time, people were still getting the hang of it trying to understand how it all worked. And with the airdropped merits, there was a lot to pass along. I am not familiar with the topic of discussion, but the post is not what I consider a shit post. It's something I might merit with 1-2 merits, for example. Not 50 by any means.

I can't comment on the intentions of the merit sender, but I certainly don't agree with the number sent. But that's just me. This example you and someone else mentioned doesn't work in your favor. The whole OP is about how legendary members merit other legendary members and abuse the system. But the receiver in that example is just a Full Member. His rank was even lower at the time the merits were awarded. And the person who sent the merits is a Hero.   

Hey, merit source here.

I'm going to speak out of my personal experience: I was a newbie once. I did earn merits. Apparently, there is something most newbies don't do right.

Would you like to share us some examples? Also, note that some legendaries had a thousand merits airdropped when the merit system was introduced, so these shouldn't be counted.

Feel free to judge my sent merits.

Technically, using data that runs up to last Friday, these would be the possible candidates that the OP saw, if he is referring to recent sMerit TXs with over 30 sent sMerits:

https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/ddmrddmr/viz/shared/C5GY3CHP8

My favourite candidate on the above list would be this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411499.msg61111015#msg61111015), which is a bad example of what the Merit System should be like in practice. The Trust ratings on both Sender and Receiver tell a story there too, so examples such as this one should be interpreted in their context, and are likely more in line with exceptional misuse than the norm nowadays.

That's not something I would ever merit, and I am pretty sure if you asked 10 merit sources if that post deserves any merits, all 10 would say it doesn't. But again, OP is talking about several examples he saw where legendaries merit legendaries, neglecting lower ranks. Neither of the two posts we have seen so far are examples of that. And like you said, the trust ratings of the merit sender in this case tells you everything you need to know about that person. This could be an example of purchased merits or meriting your own alt account. 

Learn these two things from today henceforth:

1. A quality post is not judge by the magnitude of the content but the insight it gives, it is more convenient to read through short, direct and straight forward response that is on point than going through pages of articles you can't figure out a particular idea or taught from it.

2. The Merit system works such a way that you have the right to merit any post you feel gives you an insight, taught or lesson that you'll always remember, it's your judgement and decisions and i know quite alright that you wouldn't want to merit a low quality post since you know what it takes to get one.


When you get there too, be a change agent and Merit quality post regardless of rank, but i can assure you that if you check the low rank members merits statistics thread by LoyceV you would discover many newbies were being merited unknowingly to you, also know that newbie ranks don't last long except for those inactive ones, newbies easily get rank up within a short time.

OP you are not alone on this, every newbie at some point has had same thoughts as yours. When I was also a newbie I had a similar thought.
Sometimes you see a post that a lower rank member put much effort to present which is supposed to earn much  merits but it could end up not getting one but the first or second reply from a high ranked member will get all the merits. It gave me some thoughts as a newbie, not until I understood what was actually happening as I kept growing in rank.

What happens is newbies are not easily trusted with merits.
Some people would not want to send out merit to an account that could be banned the next week. People are also not comfortable sending out merits it to an account which might be an alt account of an established member while some genuine newbies are unmerited.
For you to be trusted with merit you need to spend some time and contribute positively to the forum. When you spend more time here, you will understand that those posts of yours that were previously ignored would be revisited and they will begin to get merits.
That's my observation over time.

If you seek knowledge then the first obstacle you need to overcome is caring more about how much merit others earn and how little you do.

One of the reasons you see people disagreeing with you it's that everyone is tired of this, the same discussions come up month after month, with the same flavor on it, I'm a newbie, I seek knowledge but why is somebody else getting merit and I don't? This is getting frustrating old, some of the legendaries you mentioned are not giving a damn about merit anymore, this is not a race for merit, this is not about having x posts merited, this is a forum about discussion, it's like some perks you're earning and that it, what you're doing here is just letting envy taking over you and I already know what's going to happen, from the hunt for knowledge it's going to turn into merit fishing.


If you think is low content report the post, do your part in cleaning the forum and be done with it.

I see a lot of comments from members who really thinks I'm merit fishing, Honestly I'm sorry if you have this same thought, but honestly speaking that isn't my intentions, this post that senior member of the platform mentioned was actually one of them
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411499.msg61111015#msg61111015

Like I earlier said, My post isn't to attack Legendary members, If you feel this way, I'm sorry, I don't mean to upset you legends. It was just an observation which I didn't understand, and intentions here still remains the same, I'm here to seeking knowledge, And it's important that I gat all that leads me here. If possible members who meritted me can unmerit me as that isn't my target for coming here. I will prefer to remain a newbie and be wise than being a high rank member with empty skull. Once again members who feels offended, I'm sorry

This isn't abuse, it's just an imperfection of the merit system. High rank members get merits for shitposts because they have recognition on this forum, but since they are already high rank, merit becomes purely a vanity stat for them. And despite merit points being a limited resource, it's not like newbies lose something when high ranked members get merited. There's plenty of spare merit in this ecosystem, I personally sit on over 120 sMerit and there's not enough good posts from newbies to give it away.

That's a bad example. It has already been discussed here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416930.0) showing that it was probably an alt account of the same member.
You still haven't shown any examples to prove your point. Please show me an example of a quality post from a newbie member that you think was under-merited.


So what exactly was the point of this thread? You accused senior members of abusing the merit system and being selfish, but now you say that wasn't your intention?

I have already offered my view on this situation in my post above. It's interesting how you are avoiding to answer questions people asked you, and other forum users are the ones that are finding examples of bad merit habits when this is your thread and you are supposed to do that.

So far, nothing has been shared from your end. But according to you, you have observed many cases where legendaries abuse the system, and there are plenty of high-quality posts by newbies that aren't getting merited. But there isn't a single example that you have linked to.     

The merit system works well "on average". A system doesn't have to be perfect, for it to be useful. Yes, there are (surely) people abusing/misusing it and there are various biases and inconsistencies in how people give merit, but those (probably unavoidable) things don't take away too much from the benefits of the system. I wouldn't worry about it OP, if you're genuinely here to participate (and not just rank up an account so you can sig spam), then just try to post thoughtful stuff and merit will eventually start flowing in your direction. ;)

Aleast, if he wasn't planning to mention anyone or give some illustrations, he'd make his points solid -- at least that's how I see it. We have made a whole voluminous post just to keep with -- either the exaggerations on how legends get well-fed with underserved merits OR the belittling of other low-ranking members, of their incompetency on the forum's operational etiquettes and we're all fed up with this tiny, flimsy excuses.
OP, This is a thread already; sorta looks like yours? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5414169.msg61098842#msg61098842)..that's just to show you that people had conceived the idea and felt the pressure of imbalance, thereby making LOST (in their eyes) the essence of meritocracy. I believe you've got same problem dude. I ROSE THE TOPIC MYSELF but, I realized that this whole merit stuff ain't perfect, NOTHING IS....

Sandra 💇

In my opinion, you're right about that post--it didn't deserve 50 merits.  On the other hand, that example is the rare exception, not the norm on bitcointalk.  Members low-ranked and Legendary rarely get nearly that many merits from a single sender even if the post is above average.  In addition, unless you're a merit source (or have tons of earned sMerits) you wouldn't be able to send 50 merits in one shot all that often, so it's not as though there's an epidemic of over-meriting mediocre posts.  It's not even a problem.

On top of that, and as others have stated, people are basically free to distribute merits however they see fit.  There's merit abuse to be sure, but Theymos isn't even concerned about it, so if I were you I'd forget about it.  

There are a lot of merit sources and others who are trying to help lower-ranked members out, but there are so many of them and many times their posts are just typical bounty hunter crapola OR they're posted in sections where nobody ever reads anything and few merits are given.

You have to keep in mind that this is a forum with millions of members and only so many merits to go around.  Sometimes things seem unfair, but from what I've seen everything balances out over time.

Edit:  OP, I only gave you 1 merit for your 2nd post because I'm all out of sMerits, and Theymos hideously and repeatedly refuses to up my monthly allocation, thereby retarding my ability to reward posts such as yours.  Please complain to him if you would, but don't tell him I asked you to.  *shh*

These 50 merits were given in 2018, so little time has passed since the introduction of the merit system. Many threw merit at each other at that time to try out how it worked. But honestly, it takes talent to criticize posts like this from a hundred years ago and come here and judge. 
OP, it's been said a thousand times that the one who cares the most about merit gets the least. And the more you criticize injustice, the more difficult the road to the ranks will be for you. 
Yes, you don't like it a lot, so what? Are you here to change the world? Get used to it.

Thank you so very much, I appreciate your advice and your kind gesture, I've seen it in reality that most of those Merit happened long ago, Except for this one which happen recently via https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411499.msg61111015#msg61111015

But the truth is, I wasn't really here to disrespect the higher rank members, that wasn't the intentions and I'm serious about it, As I newbie I believe in learning, and I'm sure anyone who can track my activities on the platform will realized this. And once more thank you so much for the merit.

And those who feels offended, I'm sorry. Forgive my manners in which I reacted or spoke out about the higher rank members, I respect you all.

I also want to thank everyone who has always stick around, offering me advices and guidance whenever I post a question, it's such a big prevailed for me being here. Once again thanks for everything you all offered, I'm amazed and grateful. Thanks

Without going in to specifics of the case you mentioned, overall in short the merit system is broken and needs a complete overhaul. I have said that before recently in a different thread and I still feel the same way. If you continue looking through the forum you will find many cases of ridiculous amounts of merits being awarded for what seem to be posts that did not deserve it and of course you will see a pattern where certain members will be sending and receiving merits between themselves over a period of time. It happens.

Again, without going in to the specifics of the case you mentioned, maybe onlookers especially newbies looking at merits being awarded for highly questionable posts will probably cite anything from sending merits too generously to merit abuse. As for the awarder, there will be a defence of saying they saw fit to it and you cannot really argue with that view either.

If memory serves correct there was also a time when merits were being questioned I recall a merit source saying it was better to award merits before the merit source was refilled and maybe theymos was quoted (I need to see if I can find the link to be sure).

Anyway, unless there is open merit abuse it is highly unusual to question anybody about why they awarded merits to a particular member or post and the awarder is under no obligation to explain why they awarded 'x' merits to a particular post. This can be seen as something highly problematic especially for newbies because they are finding their feet in the forum when they see some members receiving merits for posts that in their opinion simply did not deserve it but on the whole I think the merit system needs a re-think by theymos to bring it more up to date as it is not fit for purpose.

You did nothing wrong by bringing your questions here. You have just as much right to post here with your questions, concerns and even complaints as much as any other member in the forum.

Having said all that, welcome to the forum, I hope you have a great journey like I and so many others have had here and I look forward to reading your comments and positive contributions.

You are currently a Jr member, I hope you increase your ranks in the coming weeks and months working your way up to Legendary in a short space of time  :)

If there is abuse of merits, I definitely missed it  ;)
Being new to the system, I'm still learning it but I feel like it's fair to a certain extent.

Cheers,

Oh, the Altcoin Discussion board. I'm having a hard time finding posts there that are worthy of even 1 merit, mostly because they are buried in an avalanche of zero-value speculation posts - and I'm sure most other merit sources also think like that. (and for the record, I almost never merit any of the speculation boards with the exception of Wall Observer thread sometimes).

The last time I tried to scout for posts in that board was about a month ago. Filtering just takes way too long and kills me before I've even found a lot of posts.

It is interesting that someone who registered on the forum less than a month ago has such a negative attitude toward senior members and the merit system. I'm not judging you, but I do not think you are being completely honest with us. You are a new member, so you may not be aware of the fact that we have an established and well-functioning merit system here. Why are you so angry about it? What are you trying to accomplish by posting this? I think that if you want to be respected, you should try to be respectful. If you want people to listen to your ideas, try being diplomatic. You may not agree with the merit system, but it is the way this forum works.

We were all newbie members once, and many of us registered after the merit system was introduced. Therefore to claim that the merit system is "unfair" towards the newbies is a wrong conclusion. You are not being treated any differently than someone who has been here for a long time. We all have to earn our stripes, and I think you will find that most people are willing to help you along if you ask politely instead of disrespecting and insulting senior members from the very beginning. I have been on this forum for almost three years, and I have seen many new members come and go. The only ones who are still around are those who understand that if they want to be respected, they need to respect others.

No doubt about this, it happens sometimes, I see a lot of Zero worth post there, it's all about speculation of this or that, but the same time there's a lot of Boards, where important discussion are ongoing and lot of contributions and insights too going round, Cheers to everyone who has always got the newbies back. And I looked at your post history as well, you've contributed greatly to the platform, And it's amazing, Shedding out those knowledge of yours, those post are really inspiring and high learning resources to those who really wants them

Why do you think the OP doesn't agree with the merit system, while he's trying to get it in various ways: Re: [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.msg61106973#msg61106973) - Anyway I don't think the OP needs to be lectured just because the account is newbie as it may not be newbie anymore from how to use forum and get to know the system quickly.

I don't care whether you are newbie or not, but if you do care about quality and want to contribute, then report posts that you think are bad rather than skipping them or ignoring them.

You are wrong if you generalize all the high ranks to ALWAYS give merits themselves.
Don't you check this thread [TOP-200] The most generous users giving merits (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4523027.0)?
You can see that there are a lot of high ranks who are very friendly and care about low ranks. They specifically gave merits to newbies who made meritable posts.

Regarding post quality, it is very subjective. You must bring the example of the posts, so we can analyze together whether it is a low-quality post or not.
It is a bit complicated to determine the post quality without the example, since each member may have a different perception of the post quality.

Of course, this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411499.msg61111015#msg61111015 doesn't deserve to get 34 merits. But it is not a high rank, right? Don't forget that you accused the high ranks!

In this case I don't really want to discuss whether it's some kind of misuse of services or anything because that's what I see from my point of view, the old people who worked here of course they have a great bond about their network of friends because they have been around for a long time and Giving merit can also be a way of showing their respect for each other, so I really don't think this is abuse.
As for the quality of the post, I have no right to judge that it is quality or not because everyone must have their own views about it and I as someone who is much younger even though I am free to have an opinion here, I still don't seem worthy to comment on someone who is earlier than me.

I don’t agree with you at all, i saw the opposite and members are helping each others with sharing knowledge and informations so all high rank members you see now they really deserve it for their content. When they reach highest rank they don’t really need more merit and everyone is free to do what he want his smerits

I agreed that I must have used the wrong term to stress my sentences and argument, And I remembered that I've apologize for using such term, High rank members on this platform have been very very awesome, I won't lie, I've learnt a lot from some of them, as stated, I only came across those things, which were my personal observation, like I've always say, my purpose here is beyond being meritted, but I won't lie, I will be grateful and happy when I recieved one, But at the same time what does it profit me, if I have all of the merit, yet no knowledge of the original purpose that brought me here, That a lot is defined to be a project failure. Or a failed project. In all ramifications of things, High rank members have really be nice to me, watch my post timeline, they're always there to offer me guidelines. And I really do appreciate, so with all honestly, I sincerely apologize once more for disrespecting you all high rank members, I'm sorry as that wasn't my intentions. Thank you

Your post made me to remember how I abandoned my mission to change the world here in the forum  ;D
During my newbie time, I suggested  ways to make here better by chnaging somethings. I tried my best to point them out and by giving Solutions. I  even engaged some high ranking members in debates.
But there was a particular comment that made me to abandon my mission to change the world.
That comment made me understand that almost what I was suggesting had already been suggested in the past and probably nothing was done about them.

That was how I learnt how to use the search button. Now if you want anything to change in the system, create a topic and write a patch of code like PowerGlove ;D

That's good because you actually notice it.
I think you have come to a conclusion so it would be very good for you to consider locking this thread. I hope something you wanted to know in the OP has already been answered so you should close it as soon as possible.

There are lots of good guide, advice and ways for you to learn how to grow in this forum. Of course it's not just about a few thread you need to create, but  good discussion and solid argument will help you achieve your goal here.

I got that impression from his post. How would you interpret this?


As I said, I don't agree with his point of view that most higher rank members are selfish or abusing the merit system and that is what I tried to explain to him. If you don't agree and think that he does not need "to be lectured", as you say, that is your opinion and you can freely express it and prove me wrong, or ignore my comment completely, but don't lecture me.

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Apology accepted. Welcome to the forum!
Now, I suggest you lock this topic and forget it ever existed.

Giving merit can be subjective and objective at the same time if the content is really good information can be useful and help other member neglect the rank it is, merit is just not only to the quality of the post but also to the appreciation of the person who gives the merit like for example, you created an art related to the bitcoin community, a website, a system, update a statistics and more. We start from newbie too and upon getting long here some of us know what the forum needs. Dont get bothered too much better to invest your knowledge here first by that the merit follows.

I'm grateful for all of the guidelines, opinions and directives as well, Knowledge is power and that's why I'm here, As you all know, One never stopped learning, and this will continue till eternity, as advised by high rank and senior members of the forum, I will proceed now to lock this topics, Once more, Thank you so much for your contributions