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Most newbies make post because of their anxiousness to get merit. Out of this anxiousness, irrelevant posts are often made. Although I'm once like this. My first merit was like I won a jaspot of over a million dollar. I was so excited. But today I see merit as something to be gain as one contribute towards the forum. Newbies should be aware that is better to work towards contributing to the forum than running to build merit. Making post because of getting merit make one get discouraged after making several posts which you think will merited but not merited.

CONCLUSION: Don't search for merit, let merit come for you through your meaningful post. Never make post because you want to get merit but because you want to help others and the community through your post.

But contribution to the forum will still earn you merits anyway , so the fastest way to earn merit is to contribute, isn't it the same thing? Difference is you can't post shit or plagiarism the forum and expect any rank up.

From my perspective, it depends on how we look at it. People posts for all sorts of reasons, and as such, some make no effort in their posts, whilst other give it ample thought. Merits are, for many, a kind of incentive, so trying to upper one’s posting ability in order to earn Merits is not a bad thing. In a sense, having Merits in the back of the mind can trigger a person to create better content, and that’s a win-win.

The issue may arise, nevertheless, when someone posts with an overly focus on earning Merits. That often leads to outcomes such as cutting corners (i.e. plagiarising), an excessive amount of topic creation with less focus than a lesser amount would achieve (possibly creating a negative impression) or clearly sucking up to others in hope for Merits (that is not the intent for Merits).

I might be wrong but half of every new post created by newbies to full member ranks are for merit sake.  Everyone has the zeal to grow in ranks and many people perceived that creating new post attracts more merits. They cannot be far fetched from that because merits sources and some higher members merits these posts base on the efforts the writer puts into it (some could even be old posts rewritten). The main thing is to just have an ample of what you're writing about. Not some individuals sharing post they do not have an basic knowledge about.

So it's not entirely bad creating post for merit sake but make it something educative and a content from you not a plagiarized content.

Take note merit system was implemented to combat spam there are lots of newbies before that keeps spamming or making garbage posts newbies who do not posts high quality and helpful won't receive merit and won't be able to rank up. It means newbies will stay as a newbie with limitations like posting images and wearing signature links.
And merit was implemented to force people to make helpful and high-quality posts.

Since this is a forum we need to help each other not focus to gain merit due to the signature campaign but focus on how you help the community.

I agree with your submission.
Merits were implemented to reduce spam by making users conscious of their contribution to the forum and eliminate mindless postings, which many were using to boost up their activities and their rank; now you need merits as well as activity to rank up on the forum.

With this in mind, it's safe to say majority of forum members (except the minority outliers who do not care for ranks or titles), are posting with a desire to get merits. It now depends if;
• The merit system steers a desire to learn and contribute to the forum constructively with the hopes of getting noticed and merited, or
• It's a desperate desire to rank up, without any interest whatsoever to contribute positively to discussions or to learn from them.

The former is healthy and the reason for the merit system; the latter is detrimental to discussions and leads to spam posts.

Op, you might be right, but keep in mind that each person who visits the forum does so for a different reason. Some people come to the forum to rank up their accounts in order to participate in campaigns, others come for status, and still others come to learn how to secure their Bitcoin investments. As a result, I believe that 95% of those who attend Forum need this merit boost their moral.

I  don't think that individuals will always work hard for things that don't pay off, so I don't believe that posting for merit is bad as long as the post is quality and once you follow the rules the forum. I believe that merit attract hard work in the forum and that may be why merit was introduced.

good advice and warnings for beginners not to pursue merit without paying attention to the quality of their posts. Relevant contributions are more important in this forum than just commenting or creating threads without a clear purpose.
However, creating a thread and expecting merit is also not against the rules as long as the thread you create is really useful and makes a positive contribution to the forum. Each member wants to achieve a higher rank by obtaining merit. In fact, obtaining merit is also a mandatory requirement for participating in the signature campaign.

Users will award you merit for your valuable contributions to the forum. People award merit based on their own relevance to the contribution you've made in the forum. You simply do your part by sharing relevant information here, and any user who believes you deserve to be rewarded will do so. Posting in the hopes of gaining a lot of merit will leave you disappointed because people react differently to different opinions presented in this forum. Post your worthy contribution here, and if you are merited, you are deserving of it.

That is even a good thing because it will make them make posts that have quality so as to get the attention of others. That should not be a problem. The problem will be when they beg for merit and that is what this forum is against. Meriting posts means the posts have quality. And if anyone is running after merit by making posts for that, it is a plus to the forum. Everyone here will post to get merit if they are not up to Legendary rank because we all need to move up in rank. Even with being legendary members, there are some of them who still post to get more merit.

Anyone can't expect merits for their good post, but intentionally making a post for merits isn't a good practice. If people like your post and think somehow it's good they can appreciate it with merits. Good contributors never think about merits, they have been earning automatically. So everyone's intentions should be a good contributor.

It is not always about merits for newbies, and it is not unexpected for the first few posts from real newbies to be irrelevant sometimes or not relevant in the board it was posted. The irrelevant posts are not always made because of anxiousness trying to get merit, it can also be because the newbie lacks organization in writing, don't know how convey their thought or questions well enough to make a relevant contribution, and also that they don't know what a relevant post here should look like etc. there are many reasons for some unnecessary irrelevant posts made by newbies. The problem is not that newbies make few irrelevant posts while new in the forum, the problem is them continuing to make irrelevant posts after they have been in this forum for long.

Merits give motivation in this forum especially when it's been given to you always or more often, merits is a reward to your recognised hard work and solid contribution to the forum and merits also determine the forum users rank, there fore it is something that everyone here will be happy if he has it. Newbies really need merit to keep them very active in the forum because the merit will let them know the level of contributions you have given so far in the forum which can serve as a motivation.

I notice if you create post for merits sake that's when you won't really get the merit, but if you post freely to make contribution to the forum or to learn from forum, definitely you will be receiving merits. Some people are in the forum and they don't create thread, the only thing they do is to make comments and they are receiving merits more than some people creating thread, most of those people getting merit from comments are really making meaningful contribution to the forum that's why they are getting the merit. If you want to get merit you don't have to create thread before you receive merit, just make sure you are making quality comments and you will also be receiving merits.
If you notice most of the high rank members in the forum don't really create thread anyhow, they only make comments and they are getting merits from that, you can't be a shit poster and you think you will get to legendary rank.

I see this somewhat incorrect (as logic). One can search for merit and actually do that by trying to make very good posts.

Even high rank users are chasing merits sometimes. Some want to get to the highest rank there is (since it may bring more money from signature campaigns), some probably want to prove something (I don't know what though).
As long as this brings really good and useful posts, it's not really harm in that. The problems start when dirty tactics are used in an attempt to "rush" the achievements.

And one important thing that imho can be also mentioned even in this context is that reputation is important and it's very easy to lose it (and very hard, sometimes impossible to recover).
So even if one may be chasing merits, all he can do is to do his best in post quality and information quality. Any shortcuts can easily backfire.

The other ranks were not left out in this but as long as it is not abused, the merit system was introduced in other to combat against shitposters on the forum from ranking up and not until you begin to contribute relevants ideas to the forum all your desperation might be in vain when nobody finds any contents of your post interesting for their meriting standards.

Not only Newbies but all rankers need merit from the good posts they have posted, as motivation for the contributions that have been made to the forum, but the main purpose of posting is not to expect merit because good posts will still be rewarded when other members think you deserve it. But anyone who distributes merits to other members must pay attention to the quality of the posts so they don't blame merit contributions only to certain members to increase rankings.

Even this post you made is for merit but irony is the case yours. You are still like them not once like still now. You were happy in your one merit received what about now? So you are not interested in receiving merit again, we thank God. Please be straight forward in your post, don't accused newbies while even need it more than them. You can search for Merit with a good post. Merit will never search you. If not, OP this thread would have received merit. Go and create a good educative thread and stop accusing newbies.

Although am still a newbie as regards making post frequently and earning merits from them, it is noteworthy to state that post which guarantee merits has to be excellent in presentation and punctuation.
Half the time ones post may be moved to a different forum due to fact of not satisfying the standard of the board wherein it was posted. One only need to study the posts of others before making his/her own. This is so as to ensure quality remains intact with readership massive.

The idea of merits is technically to reduce garbage posting through encouraging users to put thought, effort and quality into their posts, as those are the main ingredients to earn merits in this forum, a user that majority of his posts imbibe these ingredients will earn many merits, maybe pretty fast, or at a normal pace, but what's most important is that merits will definitely be earned.

Having said that, there is thus nothing wrong with a user who ensures that they create posts that carry all of these ingredients so they can earn merits from the forum, mind you that if they put thought, effort and quality in their posts they wouldn't make redundant, repetitive or spam posts, meaning that they will definitely earn merits notwithstanding their intentions. The forum does not have a problem with what people have in mind before making a post, but rather the content of the post, thus even if you are a "merit hungry" user, as long as you have the necessary qualities you would rank up.

You creating this thread also to get merit, congratulations @OP for getting 1 merit for this pointless thread :D

Merit isn't a new thing anymore in this forum, there's many thread you can find what is merit, how to send merit, and guide how to get merit. I don't think there's a stupid person who can access this forum, but he can't use google search to find an answer about his question.

this depends on each individual taking which path.

if he takes a good path (obeying the rules) like using Merit as a motivation to make it a quality poster. and he realized that to become a quality poster he needed broad insights.
so that it will trigger the individual to study more actively by reading more.
because we can only make quality posters when our knowledge is sufficient to make them.

Merit > motivation to make quality posters > study harder > get more insights > Quality posters.

and for the second path are those who are motivated by Merit but take a bad path (breaking the rules). they plagiarized other people's writings and such. usually people who take this bad path are people who just can't be patient. they are in a hurry. and from the start they had no intention of becoming quality posters because they only focused on ranking up and their character was already bad from the start so motivation made them even worse.

So it's every individual's choice. choose to be good or to be bad is the right of every individual. But those who break the rules will still be punished. and we here have good people who always report any users who commit violations.

Plus one. The OP is well aware that the topic of merit is so popular and has been discussed thousands of times that creating a new topic can be considered a low-quality post.
But on the other hand, every day we come across newbies creating topics, and very few of them are really useful, but mostly it is to attract attention to get at least one merit.
If a newbie suddenly masters the second page of this topic and reads it, I would like to say that people on the forum distinguish very well between a real post and one that is "fishing for merit."
Therefore, if someone is interested in this topic, draw your own conclusions and don't go out of your way to earn merit. The easier you communicate, the easier it will be for you to receive merit.

If the intention is to get merit, they will be disappointed when they never get what they want. Newbies often feel frustrated because none of the Merit stops at their posts, finally they vent their frustration by saying the merit system is not fair to them. Even if they are able to understand the real merit system, they will get more Merit than they wanted.
Leaving old habits is the first thing to do, they need to contribute to the forum by honing their skills that can produce quality posts. Merit does not need to be pursued, it will come by itself in posts that are informative, constructive, innovative.

Some who create their own thread or replied with such effort can received or not of merits. It will depends on someone if he did like that post. Even the shortest one could be possible and we cant just judge anyone who merited them and reason out that they are bias or what. Merit is free to give anyway, its just someone qppreciate ones post or helpful thought somehow.

I am excited with your note about how merit receiving, actually when have meaningful post the merit will come for us and don't let or search for merit. Have to change with habit post not only meaningful but also position post located is most important to earn merit, usually gambling post board is not active for receiving merit and almost merit sending in  Beginners & Help thread, Bitcoin Discussion and some merit sending at scam or reputation thread.

I think meaningful post only is not enough for getting merit because need to find thread have habit with merit sending, I hope you can earn as possible with many merit points and reach up your account level become until Legandary.

I believe the merit was introduced to encourage newbie to create quality content since merit is the number 1 requirements to rank up aside from the activity. So there’s nothing wrong if a newbie is posting for a merit since the basis for receiving a merit is having a quality content.

The post of the OP is one example on what he is describing on this topic. It’s absurd to deny that he doesn’t want to receive a merit for posting this reminder for newbie but I don’t see anything wrong for aiming for the merit when you post.

Why not worry about learning and sharing knowledge other than thinking of merits. The forum has been designed as a place for learning about bitcoin and cryptocurrency. Focusing on merit alone will help a person build a well structured post, but such a person in few days will forget easily the content of the post they've made. The merits are enough for everyone who spreads quality knowledge in the community. However, newbies tend to get more merits if they consistently make even contributions to the forum.

It's fine to have desire forearn  merit, after all it's never been prohibited in this forum. I even really want to get 2K, 3K, up to 10K merit like other people, and you should know that it's just a wish and not begging. But I realize that you may have understood it correctly.

Posting for merit is not good because you are only burdening yourself, so don't do it. You can think of merit, but never beg for it because someone may never like it. The quality of your posts will answer all of those wishes, so strive for quality instead of just thinking about merit. Worrying about merit won't help you earn more, unless you're a true HQ poster looking to contribute more to the community.

I recently joined this community and have made an effort to understand more about it. I even look at individual posts to get ideas for what to post in the forum, and I can see that the majority of newcomers are only interested in gaining reputation; they don't give a damn about the content of their posts or even make an effort to contribute to the forum. I believe that the forum ought to be a place of education. The forum was set up to help us grasp most of the knowledge about Blockchain and cryptocurrency in general.

Like what I previously mentioned to posts similar as this, when you align your goals to focusing your overall contribution, merits would be the one chasing your posts and not the other way around. I see that most newbies struggle to earn their first merit but you can attribute the fault on their part.

Again, re-align your goals and focus on overall contribution in this forum. The more meaningful and knowledgeable your comments are, the more chances that you will garner that merit/s from various users.

If you truly want to earn some merits, I do recommend looking for scams and reporting them under the Scam Accusation board as you are helping in cleaning this forum out of any fake wallets, etc.

Literally, I was surprised to see posts about merits to still be circulating the forum but, you've got a coach to this and that's the fact tjat  you attest to the fact that, you once seeked for merits by making extensive posts. That's some courage talking that way and it doenst mean you aren't doing the same now in OP. Am not just saying though, no judging but, a time would come come it won't matter much to you. At a beginner phase such as yours, merits have got a lot of purpose and it does okay in defining lines.

The good news for beginners is, ranked users have been  experienced enough to detect when beginners arteritis hunting and when they find out, you get nothing. You just be enthusiastic on the field, come with your flaws, curiosity and the little you know and you'll be good. That's That's the forum needs anyway, your uniqueness.

It's not uncommon for people to be motivated by rewards and recognition, especially on online forums where their contributions may not be immediately tangible or visible. Earning merits, or other forms of recognition such as badges or points, can give people a sense of accomplishment and make them feel like they are contributing to the community. Additionally, the bitcointalk.org forum has a merit system in place to encourage high-quality contributions and weed out low-quality posts. This can be especially important where the quality of the information being shared is important, such as in discussions about technical or specialized topics. Overall, the desire to earn merits on an online forum may simply reflect a natural human drive to achieve and be recognized for one's achievements.

Yes, I will always remember your words.

hoping for more is not allowed, and will only lead to disappointment, when your expectations are too high and it doesn't happen, that's what makes you disappointed in yourself. So yeah, do it sincerely and don't expect too much.

Maybe OP need to know why merit is set to move up the ranks. I believe this is a good correlation. Everyone wants to rank up and then he posts good or useful then everyone wants to make a good post and in the end there are not many junk posts on this forum.

Merit is one of the motives of people to make good posts useful. So I think it's not wrong for everyone to try to get Merit either. Then what are many topics made to feature good and useful posts, to be given Merit?

Perhaps for those who have reached the highest rank, finally Merit is not very thought about. But they still make useful and good posts. I think the goal in the end is that the users here are aware to contribute. Because I myself am also very happy if I get merit.

You can expect merit, and actually you can ask merit source to review your posts in some dedicated threads. But one thing, you shouldn't beg for merit because it's very annoying. Expecting a lot of merit must be in line with your efforts and consistency in making quality posts. You'll find people reward your knowledge with merit and the merit system won't prevent you from rank up.

Don't post for merit, some people will find it fishing and of course it will never help you earn more. Just do what you have to do, and you just have to do it consistently. If you feel your post is quality but you lack merit then report on merit source in this thread:

- [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0)
- [Merit] Share your best posts/threads with Fillippone to be merit assessed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412657.0)

I thought those users already scrapped the bottom of the barrel mid-2018 after creating threads like these, but I guess people would still do for the sake of merits. I even recall a lot of merit fishers here in Beginners and Help board posting quite a lot of threads about plagiarism like rules does not even exist in this forum. :D

Those users are just pressuring themselves to earn merit and to rank up while it is not needed anyway.... unless they're here for some "specific" reason.

If you have a mindset like that where you only post to get merit then you are most likely not getting merit because of that. Due to a mindset like that then many newbies that are like that will only post non-constructive post instead of thinking and doing research on what's best to do in order to post good or high quality post that are surely get merited. I have seen some people who joined in this forum and only wanted to earn merit but didn't get much merit where they only quit or being inactive in this forum.

Making post is something that normally happens especially when you have made an impressive post and expecting merits from that post should not be a new thing here. If your post is very good and impressive to merits sources, they will surely merits that post which is something that happens here on a regular day.

The mistakes many people are making is creating a post that add no value to the forum and expecting merits from them. This won't work that is why we making posts should not be for the major reason of getting merits but passing and interesting knowledge to the forum.

The way I understand the merit system in this forum it serves as an  incentivisation uses to make high quality informative posts, helpful comments and generally to do anything that would contribute positively to the growth of the forum.

I may be wrong but I think that only Newbie that are so conscious about getting merits. Members of other ranks just want to share their ideas and have a good building rapport with other members.

The mindset of beginners must be changed that posts that deserve merit should provide knowledge for members in general or respond/provide specific solutions for members who need answers to problems they cannot solve, if the two methods above can be improved to start a constructive post then he will get merit among the next few quality posts, but the first step to getting merit for a beginner is that he should understand the main points of each thread then expose the quality posts for a detailed explanation of the main discussion of that thread.

When you post for merit others will see it and your chances of getting a lot of it will decrease.

Posting a lot increases this chance but in the long run you're better making 1 good post a week than 10 shitposts a day.
Eventually people will start adding you to their ignore lists and you'll start being noticed by spam busters and moderators. It's really not worth it.

Post whenever you feel like it, don't think of merit when you want to say something, just do it. If it comes naturally you'll eventually start being noticed.

Good luck!

Merit is needed for growth in this forum and it will not be a bad idea if people are making good efforts to grow. Everyone likes merit and merit is used for growth and is also used to know quality posts. Trying hard to make good post to get merits can also be a good way to push someone to be a good quality poster.
Where it will not be fine is if when posting to get merits, the person is not learning anything from the forum. That is the bad expect of everything. Everything should have a limit and rules and regulations should always been followed.

 I have been seeing alot of post lately about merits and I Just keep laughing...
Everyome deserves to get merited for reasons the giver decides... It's not something you'd just go ahead and act like you don't need them ...lol.. the thing is; if you need merits, then work for it. Don't let words describe how much you need them, let your actions do so for you.
It's even made easy this days that's we've got alot of merit sharing threads; tbh, when I got registered, I wasn't even lucky to benefit from RATIMOV's thread ( ofcourse it was very active by then), but I came just after he lost interest in it...that didn't discourage me; I just kept seeing myself as a reputable member ( and I did these cus I knew my worth), ...and here I am, three hundred and sixty... whattt? And still counting...
I'd advise you to let yourself into it... Don't try to bypass the system nor it rules, you'll only get smacked... Keep your head up and stay FOCUSED, be CONSISTENT and one day, you'll also advise someone else on how to be like you.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

As far as I understand, the one you explained is different from what I explained. The reason is that they are learning to post good/high/constructive post to earn merit where the mindset I am talking about is that they should start learning how to post high quality post before joining discussions and get merited because of your knowledge.

actually I interpret this forum as friendship on facebook.
if we make something meaningful and useful for others, surely many will like the post.
and merit is not something to always worry about. even though we know that this is a forum as a source of all crypto news and other news.
but why sometimes someone considers something difficult in this forum.
we just need to consider this forum as our friend, that's good enough

To newbies, I'd only request to please keep it on-topic.
I have seen some good quotes merited too, but it depends on how and where these newbies use it.
The best example of merit giving festival was the recent Bitcointalk Bitcoin pumpkin carving contest (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416347.msg61081449#msg61081449) where many users got rewarded merits and some of the best works even got some prizes for their works. If you have some skills to show off, merits are yours. Knowledge isn't the only thing to share, you can share everything, from news to your works. ;)

The search for merit will encourage and help you to work hard, do more research ,bring up good ideas and also have positive contribution in the forum in order to get the merit, hence people will post shit. Though the poster main focus is on getting the merit but in order hands It will get you improve your post quality, because base on my little stay here most of the time you won't get merit for posting shit exept someone merited you by mistake.

theymos has selected several Merit Sources equipped with sMerit every month, they will always monitor forum activity every day and will distribute merit on posts that are considered quality. Merit is not something that is difficult to get if someone understands how Merit works, it takes patience and knowledge that can benefit other users. The biggest mistake anyone has ever made is posting expecting Merit. Merit does not need to be expected, it will come if it is supported by quality posts.

Merit sources aren't always monitor this forum every day and in every boards, it's up to them when they want to login in this forum and which posts they will give merit. A merit source could be inactive and he didn't distribute his merit for a month, but it depends on theymos if he want to kick him from source or not. However you can also send merit since you've 191 merits which is you have 95 sMerit.

Someone doesn't need to understand how merit works to get merit, actually the one who want to send need to learn it.

One significant aspect I have observed in my journey in the forum is that post or contributions with good content attracts merits to itself from users and the post or contribution made doesn't necessarily need to be lengthy for it to be regarded as a quality post. focus on making great contributions to the forum if you want to earn merit, it's like the law of sowing and reaping, if you sow into the soil good seeds then definitely you will reap back good harvest. Merit becomes a concern to you only when you lack quality  content in your contributions.

Different post has a different approach and different post has different impact, perspective and thoughts to the readers and giving merit is subjective too if you like the post created by the other member because in some instances you can give merit it's not all the time rely in a lot of data too sometimes it happens, also different member here has a different goal, if you want to earn merit because you want to become known easily that's good, you want merit because you want to get part of the signature campaign well okay, as long as you enjoy here giving ideas, exchange information later on time goes by you are now realize become a quality contributor who receives merit.

Based on have meaningful and educative post, usually I have another ideas about how to get merit points trough looking with most active merit sender and I used my skill post on most merit sending board. I think all board in Bitcointalk forum have the same potential with sending merit points depend with how quality post having, but not fault when looking for some one have habit for sending merit usually in Bitcointalk Boar discussing.

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You can check with habit from some DT always send merit points every day to highest quality post and you need allow to make post there in board they are discussing, can't guarantee automatically get merit points, have important first time need increase with post quality.

I can mostly agree with you.
Personally, I give merits on this forum for posts that are constructive and can help new members with some new information or advice.
When I see that someone has invested their time and effort to prepare their post, and that this content can help other members on the forum, I regularly reward such posts with merits.
Of course, new forum members usually don't have enough knowledge and experience to write such posts, but they can always do their best to research something and post what they found.
I know that many older forum members are happy to help new forum members and reward their every, even the smallest positive contribution to this forum.

The quality of posts cannot be seen from one perspective, because different people have different ways of giving ratings, the merit system applies and can be given when you start consistently improving quality, posts that are subjective are sometimes not seen in certain sections.

The point is to remain consistent and continue to improve the quality of posts, while merit will definitely come when these qualifications meet the criteria, I have done this and can be said to be successful for further ranking increases.

Always make sure to post good quality content that is related to the topic you choose for more chances of getting merit. Great work comes with great rewards you deserve. Goodluck and happy posting!

One thing that i always like about this forum is in terms of identifying those posting for phishing merits and the community will always catch them, if you're posting they read the mind in which you're posting through, I don't know maybe it's a kind of psychic abilities some experience members have got in doing this right and accurate, there's no need for manipulation before you can post to entice someone, all that is required is just to be real self and truth.

Is no psychic abilities but just experience, those trying to do such forget that high ranked members were once newbies too and have seen what they're trying to do now numerous times or had similar thoughts when they were like them but didn't go down that path in deciding to go hurting for merits instead they took the high road and it paid off. Immediately newbies start writing for merits it'll become very obvious as your words will just be ass licking or going to copy & paste information that we all can access on the web while they think they're smart.

You can also observe this as these hurters tend to go to boards that are flowing with merits to communicate with hopes of getting some piece of the pie meanwhile they have no knowledge about things been discussed there and are just off topic with their contributions. Just by reading some one post, you can easily identify when someone is trying too hard to fit among.

Thank you for this post, I think this has been my case,  am always here for merit, which I haven't gotten for more than six months, I believe one day merit will come.

correctly. as long as we comply with the rules in this forum then there is no problem. Merit can indeed be a motivation so that we try harder and learn more to contribute to this forum and make posts that are useful for everyone. and in fact many members here are motivated to move up in rankings and they keep trying to make quality posts. and that's great. And the Merit system has been proven to reduce the number of spammers.

Think of ways in which you can contribute instead, and you are likely to notice a difference. Improve a discussion and keep it going with new and thought-provoking information, interesting data, comparisons, or anything else you might think of. You have problems getting merits also because of the types of activities you partake in. You participate in bounties and you have many posts in Politics & Society. No one is going to merit your bounty work (merit sources don't go there), and many members like to stay as far away as possible from the Politics sub.   

I don't get it, let's please stop pretending as if merit is not important, a few high-rank members have contacted me to send them merits before and they will do the same and I ignore the message, as for those saying they can see the desperation in posts that needs merits what difference does that makes?

Smerits are meant to be sent to others whether you like it or not, there are posts that are not up standard that still get merited anyways and there are some that are good but never get merited.

Smerits owners holds the key, merit a shitposter or quality poster the choice is yours.

Newbie must have a strategy so that merit sources pay more attention to their posts. So that when they make quality posts, merit sources will appreciate them. In my opinion, the method is very simple, newbie must know which board merit source visits most often. Then they have to be more active there by leaving quality posts so that it's easier to get merit because almost every day they get monitoring from merit sources. This strategy can also encourage Newbie enthusiasm to continue to exist and be even more enthusiastic about increasing Rank.
Newbie should also often read helpful tips to fuel their enthusiasm for merit, one of which is written by Fillippone on this topic Ranking up is possible! 2900 Merits earned in less than 12 months!My 11 Hints! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098333).

But this is a good thing don't you think ??? if everyone knows that merit comes with writing quality posts then
everybody will be out there making these quality posts which is the intention of Merit :) So basically this is a win-win for everyone!

The way I see it, if one makes most of these irrelevant (spam) posts and chances are high that you might get your self ignored and no merit will come your way.  ::)

Let's be honest here, the merit you received was to congratulate you for the million dollar win otherwise congrats on the win  8)


Unfortunately many of these guys make too many bounty posts and you will hardly see any meaningful posts which lands these guys on the ignore list.

There is nothing wrong with searching for merit, isnt this called grinding for merit and several people have done it and got tons of it so it's all about being creative about it and ones posting.

You couldn't be more correct, bruh. Inasmuch as everyone has their reasons for posting, I think it's quite low for one to make a post with the aim of fishing for merits. Then the beauty of the whole thing is lost.
 The way I see merit getting is like a music composer who knows his onions; composing beautiful harmonies seamlessly. Same with a poster who makes meaningful posts and before you know it, the merit just start rushing in.
If there's one thing I've learned about life, it's that you may not get something when you expect it.

It depends on the point of view we see it, actually, but many posts may be too careless and they don't want to try to make quality/good posts so that people are interested in these posts, everyone posts of course for a reason, and some people apply common sense. very good and mature in thinking about and expressing it as efficiently as possible, merit is very important and awards are considered very valuable, in my opinion there is nothing wrong with increasing posts and getting merit is not wrong.

Many beginners make posting mistakes, maybe people who are just adapting can do it even if it's not on purpose, suggestions for getting merit don't focus too much on posting too much to expect merit, all results will appear posts that are not expected, and for beginners we recommend in order to remain consistent in posting (High Quality) with this we are sure you will get merit.

I didn't care for merit but somehow for many it seems to be important.

This year I will try to add more to the community so maybe I can finally level up.

But since I'm still learning about crypto and it's surrounding it's not easy the provide interesting contest.

I guess you meant "jackpot" there. It's a nice feeling when that happens as it shows how deeply that which one receives is appreciated.

That's why, like a butterfly hunter, you don't go chasing a butterfly with a net. Just be still with outstretched net and the butterfly will gently come to you or fly into your nest. Don't over stress for merit. It will come when it will.

Oh, dear! This place is very sane and tidy compared to what is obtainable in other fora. This is great kudos to both meticulous members here who report these spams and the mods who also clean them up. I once moderated for a forum and can say that here is almost spam free when aligned with that other forum.

Many people who are new always be inquisitive of earning merit, and when you come across them you will notice that they do make a lot of thread, because of they want to earn a merit and it will make them to be posting meaningless post and also got deleted of post they I'm seeing it. Earning merit is typically from the person understanding and innovation of making a good response from people.

I'm related to your post. I'm still a newbie and doesn't get any rewards or earnings here in this forum. But I'm still not giving up that's why I'll make sure myself to post more appropriate every time. Merits can help me to grow more here in this forum.

if your goal is to make a post just for merit then it will be difficult to achieve, but if your goal is to make a post to help other members then your chances of getting merit are very large, because there are many merit sources that will appreciate your post or help in this forum.


Have you seen members who make short posts but get merit? it can mean that the post is liked or appreciated by other members. what has to change is your habit of posting, don't be stingy with the knowledge you get from real life. help other members (with your valuable posts, suggestions or services) then it will be your big contribution.

That sounds really good, but I don't see you as a rookie here because you've been a rookie since June 23, 2017. Which means you've had some really fun experiences in this forum even though you say you haven't earned any rewards or earnings in this forum. Because for me it is a bonus from the campaign that is being followed by someone in this forum.

Why do I say that, because everyone must continue to make posts that are useful and have the value of knowledge that can be picked up in them so that there are more people in this forum who want to reward their posts and the benefit of that is that you will be more easily accepted in any campaign when you try to apply for it when the campaign is open or when you need new participants.

I think actually in discussing in this forum the most important thing is to know our initial purpose in entering this forum, whether to seek insight or seek achievement. but of course
the most important thing is to find good insight that is useful for ourselves and members of the bitcointalk forum, and the reward is as a bonus received by people who deserve it.
so I'm sure the people who join here are mostly people who invest in bitcoin, and people who are going to invest in bitcoin, so it's clear that the most important insight to look for is not a reward, because most of us are investors and of course we have to have high knowledge to achieve success in the field of investment. so rewards can be said to be a motivator so that we are more enthusiastic in discussions and as a driving tool so that we are of higher quality in discussions.

Your conclusion is right. I've created 2 threat for Merit moderator remove my post . Now I've decided get more knowledge about forum. It will improve my post quality. A quality post helps me to get merit.

Actually, counting thread starter posts, and posts placed in existing threads, you’ve now got what looks like 20 deleted posts and 17 non-deleted posts. I can’t tell how many of those deleted posts you’ve deleted yourself (if at all), and how many have been deleted by the mods, but the ratio of deleted posts, 20/37 is tremendously high. Mods may not take a shine to that ratio.

Just don’t be in a rush to post. The initial idea should be to gain some knowledge and decide what kind of topics interest you most, bearing a fair share of reading as a likely essential.

See: https://loyce.club/archive/members/352/3527025.html

Everyone will gain merits if he deserves. If anyone is focusing on merits and he is trying to get merits with copy pasting so it is not fair. When he will make a good and constructive and informative post. He will definitely get merits. The post quality should be you first priority not the merits.

Previously, I had indeed applied the principle of my posts which were constructive in this forum, so I didn't really expect merit because I was sure that if the quality of my posts deserved merit, I would definitely get them.

In order to minimize spam on this forum, in this case that is not educational or cheap, it's best not to start changing from our mindset in every post.

I will also to some extent disagree with you on this. One can search for Merit through a good post. If you want search for Merit, just create a very good, educative or contribution thread then merit on it own will enter your account. The way I understand the system, merit can not find you in anyway but you the individual have to look for merit and that is where quality post will come in. Making a post to get merit is not a bad idea because it lead the person to create good articles in the forum. And through the quality post, users are informed and educated

Yes exactly mate everyone here in our community,  can earn merits but it depends on their posting style cause if I have sMerits then when I saw a good post or reply especially if I earn some knowledge from that specific post then I'll give a small amount of merits to the Op or the user who post that topic. But as a sender it's very helpful to know that our merited topic will be the original and not a copy paste from another resources and posted it here without the supporting details or a credits to the owner.

but you can see the plagiarism thread. beginners, even some members who have earned enough merit have been caught plagiarizing to make content that looks good. it is something wrong. whether they read the forum rules first or not. but because to gain Merit, people use any means.
some people don't think merit is accounts that contain bounty reports every day. they seem too focused on the bounty campaign, and never interested in learning what's on the forums.

If it has to be per excellence, then some posts that have received merits here shouldn't or ought not to, it's a thing if the giver's discretion based on what the reader must have drown out of the post which might not be same to other's perspective. I have come seen some thread of good punctuation and presentation but yet no quality in the message in claim to posses. Like someone said, merit is just an incentive for a job well done and not per excellence.

Don't forget that giving merits is sometimes quite subjective. Although you think it is a good post and deserves merits, other people may think it is just an ordinary post. A good post isn't only determined by punctuation and presentation, the most important is its content. It is useless if a post has no point, good punctuation and presentation are just complements.

Don't focus too much on achievements. indeed, when we get the reward we are definitely happy and become more excited.

but merit can also be used as someone's motivation, to try to improve their posts so that they become better and of higher quality.

due to merit, we will know which posts are of good quality and which are lacking.

The system has changed for a point of having merits to rank up, which has come to a reality of making a useful or meaningful post to earn merits from others colleagues here in Bitcoin talk forum to ranking up in the system from Newbie to Jr. Member, to Member etc...

Actually good post depending with how valid information or opinion write, educative with post made and actually post based on their opinion without take other ideas although used with source link. I agree with you about merit can't find us but having good post on several board with huge smerit transaction will make us easy how to earn merit.

I am looking some one with huge transaction for sending merit and I try to make post on their board and first have to make quality post and give feedback based on their topic discussing.

I think to get merit in this forum one must post well and those posts should be of quality. Good advice should be given especially by creating threads so that newbies can read the post and understand it. good things can be learned from there and post verifiability will definitely help in future. Giving good advice about Bitcoin in this forum and if it is verified is certainly possible to get merit. And in this way the newbies will get good advice and move forward.

My observation as time goes by, most of ranked up members now are better and a quality topic/reply poster that most readers will understand and possibly get new knowledge or an idea from it. Newbies that spammers will forever be newbies because basically the reason putting the merit system is to counter those spammers on higher ranks because merit was implemented in 2017-18 if my memory serves me well.

Don’t post to much useless and not very related topics to crypto especially to bitcoin. Merit will come to you if you have really done a good topics or replies.

I think everyone posts wishing to make a merit, but of course that should not be the sole purpose why we post. We are making good and quality posts because we want to create useful discussion that will help newbies in the forum, so they will be guided and have a sense of direction. We are also creating quality posts to make this forum alive, and be full of facts and information, and not with gossips and fake news. Having a merit is only a bonus, that can also help lifting our own chair and be more encouraged to make useful and quality post.

Merit serves as an additional highlight in the forum as it motivates us to do more good in posting and be a quality poster. That way, aside from avoiding spamming, we can also make the forum more healthy and useful for everyone not only for newbies but certainly for all members positions. Although we should not just be thinking about it all day, because it’s also quite frustrating when you think you’ve done your best and yet no one gives you merit, so at least we are here to make our community more of a learning place.

It just depends on how likely you are to realize it and how capable you are of doing your best there.
Quality posts only depend on who judges you and benefits from your posts, and this will differ from one user to another. Subjective, of course even if it looks good to me.

This habit pattern actually doesn't need to be done just because of your desire to get merit, but also because you are able to master what is being discussed. Of course the intention to be better should push you to make even more effort, including improving your quality by reading more.

It’s not the meriting system that we should set as a goal why we are here in the forum, since we are here to learn and to gain at the same time. But since this merit system exists, it adds more color so we can put more effort on our post, and to make it more meaningful on the eyes of the other members. And when some members see it valuable to them, they learned from it, so eventually they leave you merits which I think the poster also deserves some recognition.

Merit as a bonus from our contributions to the forum after going through a learning process, after the forum introduced a merit system, forum members are required to try to improve the quality of posts to bring them closer to a higher rank. Contributors will come with generosity in quality posts and then leave Merit there, this system will continue to provide encouragement to strive to always improve the quality of posts. Merit will come on posts that are considered quality, only that can help us get closer to a new rank.

useful posts always produce merit. I think it's okay, if you want merit, it's normal in this forum. because merit also occupies an important matter.

That's not always the case, not every ranked up users you see are outstanding in their replies or thread creation. Some are just average but beneficiaries of the review system that some kind users have put together to help those finding it difficulty to get merit. A quick review of some of their post history and you'll be wondering how they gathered so many merits.

Obtaining the right amount of merits for your ranking up isn't that difficult anymore, just observe what's going on the forum and you can take advantage of some opportunities but before then make sure you have a very decent post history as if you have a bad post history, you mightn't only get yourself rejected but get yourself on ignore list and hinder the chance of you getting merit in future from that particular user.

Not entirely correct, not all quality posts are rewarded with merit. A user can choose to merit any post he or she deems merit worthy, and keep in mind that everyone has their own method of determining which post to merit.
So just because a post wasn't merited doesn't mean it's a shit post or low-quality post.


The forum is not a school that examines every user's post to see if they're using proper punctuation, and you should keep in mind that not everyone on the forum is from a country where English is the first/primary language. Although it is true that your post must be presented in such a way that those reading it understand what it is about easily.

I think these interconnected are inseparable. Posts with good content will be easier to understand with proper punctuation. In fact, I would feel confused to translate or interpret a reading if there were no periods, commas and whatnot. It will have a different meaning of the word if there is no punctuation in the sentence.
 
Granted most seniors will probably be quick to understand a sentence without punctuation, but I think punctuation is also very important. So make it a habit to write using the necessary signs. Moreover, the writing is not my language, it will make me even more headache.  ;D

The point is that our posts contain insight and are useful for anyone who reads them. and to make it we try harder. pouring a little hard work and insight into our writing will make our posts quality.
But if we don't have insight, then what can we put in our posts?

so the main key is to be more diligent in reading and learning to add to the insights we have. because if we have a lot of insight, it will be very easy to make useful posts and quality posts.

And in fact the most rewarded merits are the most useful posts.

So much debate over something for which there are no exact rules or definition  :D
We all have different reasons for giving merits for posts and that's okay, we're all different.
There is only a general rule or principle that a quality post is rewarded with merit, something that contributes to the forum, but for each of us the concept of quality is different, so there is no point in analyzing it too much.
After all, the main purpose of participating in this forum should be to interact with other members of the crypto community from all over the world, learn something or share some news and information, not to fight for merits.
So, I would suggest to the OP to change the title, make posts that contribute to the forum community and the quality of the discussion, rather than posting for merit.
With such an approach, the merits will come naturally, without too much effort.

everyone on the forum has different views. like you who have been on the forum for a long time and have lots of discussions with very much existing knowledge. getting Merit is a bonus.
but for most beginners, the Merit they get on the forums is a motivation for them to keep growing. this is not a wrong thought. everyone who comes to the forum has their own goal.
every Merit that the more established members gave to the new ones, was like a push to make a bigger post and achieve a higher rank.

They will judge your posts as good and quality when the posts you describe are good, posts that are based on correct information and authentic, of course they will give you awards (merits), if you want to get them working as optimally as possible, and remain consistent when making posts, good reasoning well and as well as being able to digest the topic of this discussion is very likely that your post will be of high quality.

We advise colleagues who are beginners / have just joined the forum to always be consistent in making posts, express your opinion as well as possible and of course people will appreciate it well and give you merit.

As long as the poster helps others with his/her post, like guides giving advice on what to do tutorial, there is no problem, but if someone is just posting for reports of his/her campaign post or airdrops that is just spamming, that's a different story, like everyone say, if its helpful merits will flow to that person or member.