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December 11, 2022, 01:04:41 PM Last edit: December 11, 2022, 01:19:23 PM by odunybiz Merited by libert19 (1), Iadegbola34 (1) |
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Most newbies make post because of their anxiousness to get merit. Out of this anxiousness, irrelevant posts are often made. Although I'm once like this. My first merit was like I won a jaspot of over a million dollar. I was so excited. But today I see merit as something to be gain as one contribute towards the forum. Newbies should be aware that is better to work towards contributing to the forum than running to build merit. Making post because of getting merit make one get discouraged after making several posts which you think will merited but not merited.
CONCLUSION: Don't search for merit, let merit come for you through your meaningful post. Never make post because you want to get merit but because you want to help others and the community through your post.
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Z390
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December 11, 2022, 01:17:19 PM |
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But contribution to the forum will still earn you merits anyway , so the fastest way to earn merit is to contribute, isn't it the same thing? Difference is you can't post shit or plagiarism the forum and expect any rank up.
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DdmrDdmr
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December 11, 2022, 01:44:21 PM |
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From my perspective, it depends on how we look at it. People posts for all sorts of reasons, and as such, some make no effort in their posts, whilst other give it ample thought. Merits are, for many, a kind of incentive, so trying to upper one’s posting ability in order to earn Merits is not a bad thing. In a sense, having Merits in the back of the mind can trigger a person to create better content, and that’s a win-win.
The issue may arise, nevertheless, when someone posts with an overly focus on earning Merits. That often leads to outcomes such as cutting corners (i.e. plagiarising), an excessive amount of topic creation with less focus than a lesser amount would achieve (possibly creating a negative impression) or clearly sucking up to others in hope for Merits (that is not the intent for Merits).
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NdaMk
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December 11, 2022, 04:17:05 PM |
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I might be wrong but half of every new post created by newbies to full member ranks are for merit sake. Everyone has the zeal to grow in ranks and many people perceived that creating new post attracts more merits. They cannot be far fetched from that because merits sources and some higher members merits these posts base on the efforts the writer puts into it (some could even be old posts rewritten). The main thing is to just have an ample of what you're writing about. Not some individuals sharing post they do not have an basic knowledge about.
So it's not entirely bad creating post for merit sake but make it something educative and a content from you not a plagiarized content.
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BitMaxz
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December 11, 2022, 04:47:06 PM |
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Take note merit system was implemented to combat spam there are lots of newbies before that keeps spamming or making garbage posts newbies who do not posts high quality and helpful won't receive merit and won't be able to rank up. It means newbies will stay as a newbie with limitations like posting images and wearing signature links. And merit was implemented to force people to make helpful and high-quality posts.
Since this is a forum we need to help each other not focus to gain merit due to the signature campaign but focus on how you help the community.
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December 11, 2022, 04:54:30 PM |
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<snip> I agree with your submission. Merits were implemented to reduce spam by making users conscious of their contribution to the forum and eliminate mindless postings, which many were using to boost up their activities and their rank; now you need merits as well as activity to rank up on the forum. With this in mind, it's safe to say majority of forum members (except the minority outliers who do not care for ranks or titles), are posting with a desire to get merits. It now depends if; • The merit system steers a desire to learn and contribute to the forum constructively with the hopes of getting noticed and merited, or • It's a desperate desire to rank up, without any interest whatsoever to contribute positively to discussions or to learn from them. The former is healthy and the reason for the merit system; the latter is detrimental to discussions and leads to spam posts.
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SOKO-DEKE
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December 11, 2022, 05:12:07 PM Last edit: December 11, 2022, 05:33:08 PM by SOKO-DEKE |
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Op, you might be right, but keep in mind that each person who visits the forum does so for a different reason. Some people come to the forum to rank up their accounts in order to participate in campaigns, others come for status, and still others come to learn how to secure their Bitcoin investments. As a result, I believe that 95% of those who attend Forum need this merit boost their moral.
I don't think that individuals will always work hard for things that don't pay off, so I don't believe that posting for merit is bad as long as the post is quality and once you follow the rules the forum. I believe that merit attract hard work in the forum and that may be why merit was introduced.
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kamvreto
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December 11, 2022, 05:52:20 PM |
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good advice and warnings for beginners not to pursue merit without paying attention to the quality of their posts. Relevant contributions are more important in this forum than just commenting or creating threads without a clear purpose. However, creating a thread and expecting merit is also not against the rules as long as the thread you create is really useful and makes a positive contribution to the forum. Each member wants to achieve a higher rank by obtaining merit. In fact, obtaining merit is also a mandatory requirement for participating in the signature campaign.
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Asiska02
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December 11, 2022, 05:55:12 PM |
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Users will award you merit for your valuable contributions to the forum. People award merit based on their own relevance to the contribution you've made in the forum. You simply do your part by sharing relevant information here, and any user who believes you deserve to be rewarded will do so. Posting in the hopes of gaining a lot of merit will leave you disappointed because people react differently to different opinions presented in this forum. Post your worthy contribution here, and if you are merited, you are deserving of it.
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Maestro75
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December 11, 2022, 06:07:20 PM |
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Most newbies make post because of their anxiousness to get merit.
That is even a good thing because it will make them make posts that have quality so as to get the attention of others. That should not be a problem. The problem will be when they beg for merit and that is what this forum is against. Meriting posts means the posts have quality. And if anyone is running after merit by making posts for that, it is a plus to the forum. Everyone here will post to get merit if they are not up to Legendary rank because we all need to move up in rank. Even with being legendary members, there are some of them who still post to get more merit.
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The Cryptovator
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December 11, 2022, 08:04:44 PM |
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Anyone can't expect merits for their good post, but intentionally making a post for merits isn't a good practice. If people like your post and think somehow it's good they can appreciate it with merits. Good contributors never think about merits, they have been earning automatically. So everyone's intentions should be a good contributor.
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Queentoshi
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December 11, 2022, 08:17:29 PM |
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Most newbies make post because of their anxiousness to get merit. Out of this anxiousness, irrelevant posts are often made.
It is not always about merits for newbies, and it is not unexpected for the first few posts from real newbies to be irrelevant sometimes or not relevant in the board it was posted. The irrelevant posts are not always made because of anxiousness trying to get merit, it can also be because the newbie lacks organization in writing, don't know how convey their thought or questions well enough to make a relevant contribution, and also that they don't know what a relevant post here should look like etc. there are many reasons for some unnecessary irrelevant posts made by newbies. The problem is not that newbies make few irrelevant posts while new in the forum, the problem is them continuing to make irrelevant posts after they have been in this forum for long.
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December 11, 2022, 08:56:54 PM |
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CONCLUSION: Don't search for merit, let merit come for you through your meaningful post. Never make post because you want to get merit but because you want to help others and the community through your post.
Merits give motivation in this forum especially when it's been given to you always or more often, merits is a reward to your recognised hard work and solid contribution to the forum and merits also determine the forum users rank, there fore it is something that everyone here will be happy if he has it. Newbies really need merit to keep them very active in the forum because the merit will let them know the level of contributions you have given so far in the forum which can serve as a motivation.
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Issa56
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December 11, 2022, 09:06:57 PM |
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CONCLUSION: Don't search for merit, let merit come for you through your meaningful post. Never make post because you want to get merit but because you want to help others and the community through your post.
I notice if you create post for merits sake that's when you won't really get the merit, but if you post freely to make contribution to the forum or to learn from forum, definitely you will be receiving merits. Some people are in the forum and they don't create thread, the only thing they do is to make comments and they are receiving merits more than some people creating thread, most of those people getting merit from comments are really making meaningful contribution to the forum that's why they are getting the merit. If you want to get merit you don't have to create thread before you receive merit, just make sure you are making quality comments and you will also be receiving merits. If you notice most of the high rank members in the forum don't really create thread anyhow, they only make comments and they are getting merits from that, you can't be a shit poster and you think you will get to legendary rank.
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December 11, 2022, 09:24:55 PM |
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CONCLUSION: Don't search for merit, let merit come for you through your meaningful post. I see this somewhat incorrect (as logic). One can search for merit and actually do that by trying to make very good posts. Even high rank users are chasing merits sometimes. Some want to get to the highest rank there is (since it may bring more money from signature campaigns), some probably want to prove something (I don't know what though). As long as this brings really good and useful posts, it's not really harm in that. The problems start when dirty tactics are used in an attempt to "rush" the achievements. And one important thing that imho can be also mentioned even in this context is that reputation is important and it's very easy to lose it (and very hard, sometimes impossible to recover). So even if one may be chasing merits, all he can do is to do his best in post quality and information quality. Any shortcuts can easily backfire.
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December 11, 2022, 09:33:04 PM |
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Most newbies make post because of their anxiousness to get merit. The other ranks were not left out in this but as long as it is not abused, the merit system was introduced in other to combat against shitposters on the forum from ranking up and not until you begin to contribute relevants ideas to the forum all your desperation might be in vain when nobody finds any contents of your post interesting for their meriting standards.
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December 11, 2022, 09:51:37 PM Last edit: December 11, 2022, 10:04:52 PM by erep |
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Newbies really need merit to keep them very active in the forum because the merit will let them know the level of contributions you have given so far in the forum which can serve as a motivation.
Not only Newbies but all rankers need merit from the good posts they have posted, as motivation for the contributions that have been made to the forum, but the main purpose of posting is not to expect merit because good posts will still be rewarded when other members think you deserve it. But anyone who distributes merits to other members must pay attention to the quality of the posts so they don't blame merit contributions only to certain members to increase rankings.
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Mate2237
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December 11, 2022, 10:01:00 PM |
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Most newbies make post because of their anxiousness to get merit. Out of this anxiousness, irrelevant posts are often made. Although I'm once like this. My first merit was like I won a jaspot of over a million dollar. I was so excited. But today I see merit as something to be gain as one contribute towards the forum. Newbies should be aware that is better to work towards contributing to the forum than running to build merit. Making post because of getting merit make one get discouraged after making several posts which you think will merited but not merited.
CONCLUSION: Don't search for merit, let merit come for you through your meaningful post. Never make post because you want to get merit but because you want to help others and the community through your post.
Even this post you made is for merit but irony is the case yours. You are still like them not once like still now. You were happy in your one merit received what about now? So you are not interested in receiving merit again, we thank God. Please be straight forward in your post, don't accused newbies while even need it more than them. You can search for Merit with a good post. Merit will never search you. If not, OP this thread would have received merit. Go and create a good educative thread and stop accusing newbies.
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Cryptomultiplier
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December 11, 2022, 10:16:15 PM |
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Although am still a newbie as regards making post frequently and earning merits from them, it is noteworthy to state that post which guarantee merits has to be excellent in presentation and punctuation. Half the time ones post may be moved to a different forum due to fact of not satisfying the standard of the board wherein it was posted. One only need to study the posts of others before making his/her own. This is so as to ensure quality remains intact with readership massive.
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December 12, 2022, 12:14:54 AM |
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The idea of merits is technically to reduce garbage posting through encouraging users to put thought, effort and quality into their posts, as those are the main ingredients to earn merits in this forum, a user that majority of his posts imbibe these ingredients will earn many merits, maybe pretty fast, or at a normal pace, but what's most important is that merits will definitely be earned.
Having said that, there is thus nothing wrong with a user who ensures that they create posts that carry all of these ingredients so they can earn merits from the forum, mind you that if they put thought, effort and quality in their posts they wouldn't make redundant, repetitive or spam posts, meaning that they will definitely earn merits notwithstanding their intentions. The forum does not have a problem with what people have in mind before making a post, but rather the content of the post, thus even if you are a "merit hungry" user, as long as you have the necessary qualities you would rank up.
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