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Hi guys, Miss universe 2023 will be tomorrow in my timezone. I'd like to ask if you know what bookies are offering the betting odds.

I have already searched from all the bookies I'm using but no betting odds are offered.

Let met know, and what's your prediction? maybe I can follow.

I’ve been searching for this too among crypto casino available here in forum but no one offers this event on crypto casino sportsbook that has an entertainment section. Most of the bookie that has this bet option are those fiat casino and doesn’t have ANN thread here. I believe crypto casino is not interested offering this type of bet since they have oscars award feature.

I will be interested to follow this thread.

I know gamblers may bet on any event that would eventually declare a winner. But, I don't think most casinos are offering a betting line for miss universe, I'm not sure but I think it's because most gamblers may not be interested in watching this international pageantry event.
I tried searching for it, out of curiosity if there are an actual betting line for for crypto and non crypto casinos, though I found some, but when I visit their website it's not available.

@beparanf, I couldn't agree less with you because I would also love to follow this thread because I think it will be a nice thread and I see no reason why there isn't a bet for this on most platforms I checked out and female gamblers like myself wouldn't see any harm in having some cool fun and making some cool cash too while getting the entertainment from the pageantry.

@oasisman, I think there might be people who are also interested in this type of betting but since it's not included and we can't tell a casino who game or not should be included on their platforms, then I guess that's one of the reasons why people are silent about whatever that seems wrong or whatever game that isn't included.

Generally I will love to see this pagentary and also will be looking at the thread and if anyone finds a casino that offers a bet on them, should do well to share with us over here too.

I personally do not like to make a bet on any beauty. But It will be very fun to see any bookie add this feature to their website. And honestly this is the first time I hear of this idea in public.

I have not seen any listing of beauty pageants on bookmakers though. I think the listing will start when there are few ladies left like 10 or 15. So this must be live betting.  

Betting on the best in swimsuit or best in national costume is possible. But no bookmaker have these listing and I doubt crypto gamblers are up for it.
Crypto users are very manly, they bet on ball games and combat sports.

Is it true that there is a bet in the Miss Universe election. To be honest, this is the first time I know from your post that Miss Universe is also at stake.
However, if there is such a bet, maybe almost all gambling or betting platforms don't have bets on Miss Universe because from my experience following several platforms I have never seen such a bet and I think it would be ridiculous if anyone was interested in betting on Miss Universe. 🤣

I have not bet on Miss Universe Pageant, we always have a strong candidate in the pageant and I am too biased to bet on others even though they are the favorite, you will only know if the candidate is good in the pageant I have seen strong and favorites candidates that failed to enter in the top five and, there's pre-pageant judging but when it comes tot he pageant nigh every candidate has a better chance, especially in the question and answer portion, where the one likely to win is the one with a good answer.

I'd like to add such a thing to the MintDice Sportsbook but I'd have no idea how to set odds for such a thing. Is there any way to do such a thing appropriately?

Generally speaking, I've wanted it to host a lot of betting on random things but haven't had good opportunities yet since it's brand new.


Edit: One thing that would be funny that I just thought of would be to take all of the contestants, say there are 100 (I have no idea). Someone places a bet and then they are randomly (Provably Fair) assigned a candidate with a, perhaps say 90:1 payback if they win.

And this could be updated as the event progresses.

Would this be interesting to anyone?

Basically like a raffle with 1 winner in the end. What would you so if not all tickets were bought?

I've seen this at local clubs with Nascar events. It's not a terrible idea.

I even just heard now, yes I just heard that there is someone looking for support for Miss Universe like this. And also I have never seen this bet before. Maybe if one day this would exist, then what would the scheme be like? can anyone explain here?
And if this exists I question whether it will invite many enthusiasts to bet? Because most of the time betting is dominated by the sports sector. I myself am more interested in betting into sports, because that is one of my hobbies.

Betting on Miss Universe should be against the law if it isn't already imho. If some event is going to be rigged it's going to be that, and it most likely has always been rigged. And it would be impossible to prove that wrong person won because that would be a matter of taste so it would be perfect crime to make money. I seriously hope that event would be a thing from the past as only thing it serves is the rise of eating disorders amongst women.

It's a good idea, I've seen it before and I think onehash has it before when it comes to this type of pageantry and just like Ms. Universe betting, they've also got the political betting.

You may try to add that and have some experiment and see how your customers are going to have a feed back on it.

It's like having a pool for all of the bets and you get a portion for the commission of the house for the entire of it.

Our country also has the strongest candidates all the time that's why many fanatics are also aiming for the crown. Our candidate this year is one of the favorites but the result is always unpredictable. Even strong candidates can't enter the top 10 sometimes. I haven't found any bookies here and it seems like crypto gamblers don't have an interest in Ms. Universe so I just bet on our community betting so the upcoming pageant in a few hours is too exciting.

My country do not even participate in Miss Universe contest and neither we are much interested in it.
We just get to know who won the title. I think its India most of the time - which wins the title - this time again they might win this title.

I doubt if casinos will offer betting on events like this because its hard to analyze who will likely win in the pageant after the pre-pageant judging even the favorite is not sure that he is going to win we will only know after the pageant time because beauty is in the eyes of the beholders it's hard to predict who will win, there are so many contestants and every one of them has a chance comes coronation night it just really depends on the judges, not on the performance of every contestant.

Even if some crypto bookies here are offering betting lines under entertainment area,
they won't include this event in their list because I don't think it can attract a lot of bettors.
For one, it is indeed hard to predict who will be included in the top 10 already.
Maybe, if the bookie will open their odds, it is after knowing the top 10 candidates.
However, I don't think there will be bettors, it is mostly spectators who just want to watch the event.
Just sit back and relax and just watch the event. If you do want to bet, it may be fiat-based bookies that will offer such event.

I wonder why such a highly specialized betting market interested you? In my opinion, this is not much different from the lottery. Let's say I can google who in my country won the contest and goes to Miss Universe to take part in the final, but I can hardly imagine how to find information (and most importantly, how to evaluate their chances) on all participants.
Or maybe you have some inside?  ;D

Can’t see any crypto site that offer this option, but in my locals you can see a lot of bettors already.
Miss Universe is one of the most anticipated beauty contest and in my country, this is for everyone concern since we are one of the contender every year.

Not being biased but of course Philippines will have a better chance of winning here and getting another crown. If there’s a crypto site for this, I’ll surely place a bet and have fun watching this, this pageant has a good hype as well.

Wouldn't be limited to one winner.

In the hypothetical example I gave, every single ticket from #1-100 would each have an equal chance of being applied to any person.

People could buy as many tickets as they want. Naturally the house would take on more exposure to some candidates than others and take on some risk. That's fine.

I think it's pretty unlikely that would be built in time at this rate but could do such a thing in the future if people were interested and we had enough of a head start.

It's clearly not as fun as being able to pick your girl, but I would have no idea how to handicap the women in the first place, and I doubt many people on Earth could do that efficiently, so idk how any book could offer such things easily.

These kinds of events are hard to predict, and I would say they are rigged, but maybe I'm wrong. If I have to choose one I would say Alejandra Guajardo just because she supports bitcoin  ;D


I already search for the event in a couple of casinos, but couldn't find it, I will keep searching and if I found one I will update this post.

Video reference: https://twitter.com/NoticieroSLV/status/1613404984724393984

Any competition in which the perception of the judges is the only factor which decides the winner and not some sort of objective standard is subject to manipulation, and what better example of this than boxing, boxing judges are known for some of the most outrageous decisions in all sports, and despite of this there is no effort to change the current system as most likely those at the top benefit from this system as well, however at least when it comes to boxing there is a way for a boxer to win without the need of the input of the judges if he KOs his opponent, something which is not possible in a contest like this one.

Let's be honest, someone here has already managed to predict the result of who would be Miss Universe, I'm talking about predicting the correct result, I don't think anyone can predict that, because it's a contest in which the criteria to reach the winner vary a lot and in the end of the day the winner of the contest is always someone unexpected or who is not seen as a fair winner, it always generates some controversy or criticism when choosing the winner

bookmakers already have a lot to worry about, they don't need to keep adding something that will only bring them headaches, I particularly wouldn't bet on this contest if any bookmaker had this option, I don't even watch it

Yeah, it's not listed on our favorite sports bookies, not sure what it is, but this is a big stage or contest. I can't recall but this seems to be a topic as well in this community in the past specially when Miss Philippines won the Miss Universe in 2018. And then there were speculations that it will be back strong in 2019 to have a back to back win but South Africa took the title.

So now there isn't a buzz except for Miss El Salvador having the BTC Logo in here gown.

I have not searched the site but I also don’t think gamblers will be interested if there is any because I believe most of the gamblers would prefer to bet more on manly things, most particularly on sports matters. However, I’m not saying this in general as some gamblers would still want to, but personally, I don’t want to bet with girls thing like this pageantry.

Well i don't know who is winning but i am pretty confident on who is not winning. Russia for some reason isn't banned but winner s not going to be Russia. That would be political and PR suicide for the whole organization. I wonder if they are hoping for world peace this year like they used to.

And for the same reason i would give Ukraine pretty good changes on winning. But who knows what drives the onwer of the trademark, they might want to chose someone far away from that conflict to wash their hands. And Russia would probably give them ton of money just to not choose Ukraine.

It seems some platforms offered Miss Universe bets on previous years, but not in 2023. I guess there wasn't demand from gamblers for this betting category, so they must have simply removed it.

I actually found a website with 5 alternatives of gambling platforms where you could bet on Miss Universe 2023, although I checked two fo them which accept Bitcoin deposits and found nothing related to this event. If you want to see if you can find: https://www.gamblingsites.org/gambling/entertainment/miss-universe/

The 22bet sportsbook is on that list and looks the most complete one. There are many different events to bet on, but I really didn't find Miss Universe there. Maybe you can try looking if I missed something: https://22bet.com/

No winner yet because the event lives in the next 1 - 2 hours. We can watch live the event on Official Miss Universe 2023 on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK-JlVL61Bs

KYC?, if not we still have time to bet until suspended because still have 1 hours left. So, if we are all here interested to bet on that event, why don't make a self bet on the games board?. that will be fast and more credible when moderated by a reputable member here. what we can be certain of is without KYC and registration.

I would not even dare to bet on Miss Universe events. At least, in sport betting there is some logic and analysis behind the choice on where to put your money.
The winner of these beauty contests are very relative to the thoughts and appreciations of the judges, not even mentioning that there could be some agenda or even unknown influences going on unbeknownst to us.  ::)



 

This year's Miss Universe is Rbonney Gabriel of the USA she is half Filipina Half American her answer is the one that did it she has the best answer, she is a strong candidate although there are controversies involving her winning the Miss USA but its a great journey for her and she will do well as Miss Universe.

https://i.imgur.com/yHYCObb.jpg

As far as I know there are no casino or gaming site which are offering batting on the miss universe event, although I wished we could have bet on this event too.

By the way can you tell me exactly at which time this even will start and also which channels are showing this event live?
Yes we cannot bet on the event  but at least we can watch the event. 😋

Edit: oops seeing some posts above it seems event is already over. Anyone can share the link of the recording 🙄

There was before, in 2018 I was able to put my bet on Catriona Gray to win Ms. universe. Good thing there's none this time, otherwise, I would also lose my money because my bet does not even make it to the top 15. I believe the winner which is Ms. USA is half Filipina, so I'm still a little proud though.

I don't know if any bookies have bets on Miss Universe 2023. I don't know much about the Miss Universe 2023 event or who the participants are, but I thought I would place a bet on them. And maybe I'll pick at random who will be my pick.

But I heard that one participant was wearing a Bitcoin logo design. Perhaps, that's what I will choose later if there are bookies that provide bets.

yep, she was a really strong candidate and she really does deserve the crown. anyway, I am a little disappointed(as a Filipino) that the Philippines didn't make it to the top 16, I really thought that the Philippines really had a strong candidate this year and was expecting her to reach at least the top 5.

Are you sure it's a girl? Maybe it's a play of light and shadow, but I see that she has little on top and a lot on the bottom... let's just say some kind of surprise is possible in the area below the navel  ;D
As I understand it, the representative of the United States became Miss Universe. Was it in line with the predictions or was it a surprise? It seems to me that this choice was not least due to the agenda.

I also think there are not many talented gamblers who know miss universe even though there are casinos that add this gamble maybe I would love to follow it, but in fact I don't see it anywhere there is no such kind of gambling it would be interesting if it was held

Where did you guys find miss universe markets for betting with bitcoin on crypto gambling websites?
This year we had crazy costumes for miss Universe and girl from United States had moon costume, with El Salvador BTC costume that probably means Bitcoin is going to the moon again  :D

I deserve gambling on miss universe selection is totally new idea that is still unknown to the gamblers. It may be one of the few events that gamblers don't have much interest. I also researched well on some gambling sites but did not find any such event anywhere. Betting sites are running many events simultaneously which could also be a reason or betting sites will not be able to make profit by conducting this event. There are lots of various platforms are increasing, such events will have to start in the future. I am sure that if any event is managed by the gamblers response then that event must be kept. Naturally, it is new to almost everyone, so it has yet to be included anywhere.

When I first saw her pass on the video, my attention was simply distracted by the costume with the presence of bitcoin, but now, after looking at the photo, doubts also crept in and whether it was Miss.  :D
I also tried to find data on bets and odds for this contest, but I managed to find only this, but there are completely different applicants

https://www.canadasportsbetting.ca/betting-odds/entertainment/miss-universe.html
https://i.imgur.com/3ITyjMQ.png

as far as available information goes about her background, she is a woman. also, I mean, I've seen women with rather thick lips(down below) that would bulge out when they wear a bikini or simple underwear. or perhaps she wore a pad of some kind when she wore her national costume.

didn't really look at or heard what the experts said, but from my own perspective, she is one of the strong contenders in the pageant and was I am not really surprised that she won.

Wait a minute, does this really exist? i really don't know for this. and how do we know which contestants are the potential, the best, and the most qualified. how do we do the betting, are there any odds provided by the dealer. I don't think everything can be used as a bet, unless you are a friend of yours betting on Miss Universe 2023.

To be honest, I don't really know much about this kind of betting. whether this kind of betting, will work in the gambling market. I'm sure not, but it's possible that there are people who are interested in betting on Miss universe 2023.
So, I can't really say much about this, let alone predict it. by the way, what category does this kind of gambling fall into. throughout my experience betting on sportsbooks, I just found out that there is a Miss universe 2023 bet.

All such competitions, when subjective adjectives of a person are evaluated are piece of crap. Each person has different vision. For everyone the ideal looking woman is different. All such competitions are about politics. Neighbour countries vote for each other. Money is the main criteria of such competitions.

Why not? Any kinds of betting events have no exemptions to the real gamblers. As long as they know that money is involved, they will always try to place their bets there. But, there will be guys who think it's gay. And they aren't really interested on miss universe but for a girl gambler then yes it's possible that they will level up their entertainment by placing a bet.

As a guy, I am not into girly things like this but this miss universe here are kinda unique to me as there is a candidate which has this Bitcoin costume. I think you guys already heard of that. Obviously it came from the country of El Salvadro. Maybe it's not bad to show our support for them.

It should fall under the Entertainment category, however, this event was already over.
And I don't think there was a crypto sportsbook which listed this event.
Anyway, this kind of event is not attracting much attention from the gamblers because for one, it is hard to predict as you don't know the judges' criteria.
Also, as you are choosing from more than 80 candidates, what is the likelihood that you will win on this bet?
Maybe, this is the reason why bookies are not really into this event as they can't make money out of this.

 ;D ;D Of course she is a girl but to tell you truth i don't think she is beautiful. I think the Miss Universe contest requires a lot of things and factors to be declare as a winner and not only beauty. If beauty was the only criteria there may be some other girl selected but here they may also also looked at other things like confidence, profession, achievement in life, traveling and education etc etc

Also she is from USA and of course this could be pre decided that they will make a USA candidate winner, as USA is a powerful country that can influence such competitions easily.

I checked and Miss Universe 2023 will be held in El Salvador before the end of this year:


Maybe you're referring to Miss Universe 2022?, the US just won that.

I would have voted for El Salvador because their contestant promoted Bitcoin on stage but I didn't really bet on this event. I know there are selected betting platforms that offer odds for Miss Universe but I haven't tried betting for one.

Congratulations to Miss USA for winning Miss Universe 2023. She's a beauty. As a Bitcoin supporter though, my special shoutout goes to the beautiful Miss El Salvador who gracefully carried the Bitcoin brand for all viewers all over the world to see.

Indeed she did a good favor promoting Bitcoin to entire the world during this event.
On the other hand, I think it would be possible to perform a statistical model for a beauty contest, using historic data but even that would not offer accurate enough results.

In the end, it is up to the judges. That is why I think most of the casinos would not bother to offer betting on an event like this, added to the scarce demand for them. Let us stick to football instead.  :P

R'Bonnie Gabriel, participant of the United States was crowned the 71st Miss Universe. This year also there were many contestants who qualified for Miss Universe. But all aspects of the participants, the American R'Bonnie Gabriel has been declared the winner. She stood first out of 84 participants in the Miss Universe pageant at this event. But this year I also preferred Alejandra Guajardo. I thought she might be the first in the 71st universe. This El Salvador participant looked great in the form of golden bitcoins dress.

Rbonney is not the sentimental favorite, they are the always favorite to win are the Latinas beauties they are always the favorites to win the pageants and they are the ones being looked at as potential winners, it came as a surprise that Rbonney a Filipina - American to win the title, one big factor is their evening gown, and the question and answer, something bettors will have no idea if their favorite will give a good answer, so it's hard to bet in a Miss Universe pageant with over 80 contestants you will be loss on who will you bet because ts not only beauty but the brain as well and we don't know the judges' preferences on beauty.

Couldn't this contest be easily rigged? Maybe that's why the bookies/casinos are staying away from accepting bets for such contests.
Somebody, who has connections in the jury might bet and exercise some influence in picking the right girl to win the contest. ;D
This is more like a conspiracy theory, but who knows....The jury might be corrupted and they might choose the ugliest chick for Miss Universe. ;D
I don't trust events, where the outcome isn't completely random and based on luck.
I hate beauty contests. They are totally sexist and the girls look and sound like bimbos. A woman is way more than her looks.

I don't know where you bet on this but I was scrolling through all participants and they were all beautiful so I would not know how to place odds for such beautiful women.Secondly as already mentioned here this event can easily be rigged by judges if there were only judges votes to be taken into consideration and even if they would involve public from all over the world to vote,this can also be influenced with the right tools so I would never bet on any of such events,maybe just little money for fun but never would I bet a serious amount in any of such contests.

Wow! Is this from the actual miss universe pageant? Or it is something from the other pageant event?
That costume is fireee! Simply because it has Bitcoin in it lol.
Well, the design of the costume is very futuristic and embraces innovations. Bitcoin is indeed changing the future of cashless transactions and borderless payments.
However this kind of event can be rarely found in any betting websites.

Nowadays, they take advantage of everything that is broadcast on TV to make a gamble out of it but this is how the norm for gamblers and their mindsets. When things like this become popular in the future, I'm sure it will be rigged and they will gonna make some money out of it. This kind of trend is currently popular right now, last time I saw some threads pertaining to the bets for the presidential candidates. I wonder where this kind of strangeness will bring them, they just keep adding to the table to give the people varieties of choices to gamble with their money.

I will not bet on Miss Universe because I don't know anyone competing or entering the competition. Also, I don't know what betting site is providing for the Miss Universe competition so I might skip the competition and bet on other sports that interest me more. I'm also not interested in beauty pageants or competitions like that because my attention is more focused on sports betting, which requires analysis or even playing luck-based betting games. It will be more interesting for me.

I actually thought of a really good idea how to handle betting on such things in the future with the MintDice book that will allow fair odds and skill. Stay tuned, will hopefully be able to get to one of them ;)

The chances of this happening can be very high considering how easy it is to influence the decision of judges or Jury in this kind of competitions. Not in the Miss Universe, but I have heard cases of ladies win Beauty competitions by offering themselves for sexual pleasure to some of these jury in the competition, maybe not all of them, but to the most influential official that can make them winner's of the competition. These jury and judges can also be influenced by money and other benefits.

I just searched about betting odds on miss universe and it turns out this has been a thing for years already. It's surprising that there's even a betting sites that offer this aside from casino games and sportsbetting. Although I just so a few and I really don't know whether those suggested websites are reliable or not since most of them are unfamiliar to me. I guess, the betting side of this pageantry is much more common on local community rather in crypto gambling sites given its category.

Despite having knowledge in pageants, you can merely rely on your intuition here because the data of each women varies. Even if you knew that this candidate has a lot of potential in this particular field, there's a higher chance that she won't win because there is a criteria to be followed and the preferences and level of comprehension, understanding, and appreciation of each judge is different from one another.

But oh well, the Miss Universe result is already out and I hope you happen to find the betting site you were looking for to bet (and if you did, hopefully it was favorable though). Still, it's a win for each of the ladies because they had the chance to tell the world about their advocacies and showcase that they just don't possess beauty, but brain and compassion as well.

Though there is no proof of this but these things cannot be said to be completely impossible at the moment. But I wouldn't say that sexual pleasure is not the only thing, many people can be recommended in different ways. Since R'Bonney Gabriel is an American ‍she gets priority as it is happened in America. But all these discussions have no basis. So we have to welcome whoever occupies this position.

Fortunately, betting of the Miss Universe 2023 indeed exists and whether you believe me or not, I'm also as flabbergasted as you are right now when I knew this thing because haven't expected nor thought about it as well. As far as I know, Oscar Winners and nominees are also becoming popular in some betting platforms too, although, Ms. Universe betting options are not really present in most platforms as gamblers aren't that really inclined to bet because you need to do some extensive research to know which candidate got more chances.

No I haven't also see any casino in the forum that has such bet. Miss universe will not be an interesting bet to me as I love gambling on sportbets. I don't think in my country such bet exists,I have only heard of some people talking about it when I was in a casino recently.

Though,this bet will attract more of ladies than men,this makes most casino don't think about adding it in their casinos,because women don't really bet. It is a lovely beauty pageant and the crypto casinos are not welcoming it.

I'm pretty sure there have been many controversies in pageantries of the past but I doubt it would be declared illegal. You may want to petition to ban betting on popularity events like Oscars and maybe even elections hehe. How about betting on sports? Would you also like to ban football if players or officials were caught rigging the game?

In general the betting sites do not care if the contest is rigged or there are too many controversies. They only care about the result. If you bet on a person or a team and they won, you will be credited the winning amount else you will lose the winning amount.

However, if you can figure out who will be the beneficial and winner of the rigged or cheated game, you can still make money by betting correctly.  ;)

i haven't got the chance to watch the news. Who won the title of the Ms Universe?
That is true thought the betting site don't care if the contest is rigged the winner is winner and they do decide on that.
However congratulations to all those whose who have won the bet.

This could be arranged already or it comes as surprising or just happen accidentally. Only the board of judges know the truth. However, I have seen this Miss Universe but only in the final round and I think she’s not that bad to become a newly crowned Miss Universe. She has the looks and the intelligence, I just hope she can be a good role model too not only for women but for all individuals as well.

that is so generous of you - but people do that. I think it is a beautiful way of winning the bet too
ALthough I have never heard of betting on Mr Universe contest. But that too happen

we haven't seen any crypto bookie listing this type of entertainment event on their list. though there are some bookies who are listing entertainment events such as golden globe or oscars awards but when it comes to beauty contest, they don't list it. and we already know the reason why. high likely that it only attracts selected few audience and few bettors. so it is just a waste of their resources if this kind of event made it in their list.

I have seen one before but I think that bookie is already out of service and not anymore in the industry.

Anyway, the Miss Universe is done and Miss USA has been crowned to be the reigning queen for this recent event. Those that have seen a bookie and bet for the winner and won, congratulations.

I guess @OP should close this thread as the purpose of it has been served.

People bet on such entertainment awards knowing it's a matter of personal taste from the judges involved, so I guess it doesn't need to be forbidden. Gamblers who don't feel confortable betting on Miss Universe and Oscars, since they belong to the same category, can just avoid it. But for others, like movies' fans and people from the beauty industry it must be funny to practice their prediction skills in areas they have a lot of knowledge.

I think there is no gambling for this miss universe bet because not many gamblers know and watch this miss universe event, but I'm also curious like you are still waiting for other information from the community in this thread about miss universe betting info

Any event that has an unpredictable outcome will probably have some kind of betting going on.

That's just the nature of the beast.

It doesn't matter if many people know about it, it will be available to bet somewhere.

I would not advise anyone to bet on this pageant, because the results are too unpredictable and there are close to 200 participants to chose from. And as we all know, the judges seldom go for the most beautiful participant. In the end, they will declare the one who is the most politically correct choice as the winner. And this time the winner was R'Bonney Gabriel from the United States. So I normally stay away from such competitions. But in case you want to make a bet for 2024, then there are a lot of avenues to do so. Popular online gambling sites such as Betway and 22Bet do have bets on this pageant.

although there are bets like this, unfortunately not many women like to gamble and bet on these contests, especially in crypto casinos of course it will be difficult to find them , I think it is also a bad idea to add bets like this in crypto casinos

This is right. Most of the time, judges aren't really after the most beautiful candidate because that alone isn't enough to suffice being a Miss Universe. A lady with strong personality, wit, charm, advocacy, and intellect are the common attributes they are looking for in order to crown one. External factors such as voting, fandom, and the likes make a difference too. The presence and the genuinity of the woman before them are of importance too because after all, the Miss Universe is a platform for compassionate-driven women to showcase their advocacy and campaign to make the world a "better place"

With these being said, it will really be a tough job spotting who will be crowned especially if you're just going to bet with your gut feeling before the candidates can even showcase their talents and charisma on the stage.

I see that most comments are about how this kind of contests can't be part of gambling websites etc. I understand concerns about it mainly determined by jury. But I personally know some local contests taking sms into consideration. I mean in general public vote. I feel like all miss universe contests should have option to pick second girl through public votes so gambling can be very meaningful.
As far as I can see most of the time Latino women have better chances in miss universe or world contests. I expect new winner to be from that continent as well,

It's totally not that bad because Miss Universe betting lines aren't that open frequently as this pageantry only happens annually but yes, women are more attracted to this kind of stuff and not men, so it's already expected that the betting lines won't garner that much attention from the frequent gamblers who are almost betting on a daily basis as they don't know whom to bet or where to find such predictions.

I think that the majority relates to the idea of betting on such events in this way. It would be interesting to know what the market for such events is - it is obvious that there are no high rollers here (as in sports betting where some players bet millions) and in general the number of players is scanty (this is obvious even because finding a place to bet on this event is not so easy ). From all this (plus the chance of an insider), it turns out that the market is small and any bet slightly above the average will attract the attention of the bookmaker.

Obviously, betting on sports games is usually more accurate than on those beauty contests, singing, or other competitions that involve a more subjective analysis.
Even Oscar bets fit this same criteria and must be done with care.
However, I still find it quite interesting to bet on these types of events and get away from traditional bets.
Obviously, you have to be careful, as it is a riskier bet, but it is still interesting and it is good that we have sites that accept bets on these events.

I think it's not about the fact that it's not gambled too much, many things that aren't gambled that much are still on the casinos because it's the norm to have them.

But, it is more about the fact that it hasn't been wagered on for too long, some places started it maybe a decade ago at the longest, don't know if it happened before that but if it did then it must be even more local and rare, 10 years ago it started to grow, and so far it has grown to a size but it's still fairly new compared to most other things we bet on. Wait and see, in 10 years it will be EVERYWHERE, you will see people gambling on this all the time, it just needs time to get there.

Miss Universe is not as popular today as it was back in the day, so I don't think it will become a bigger thing than what it is today in the future.

Betting companies don't really care too much about what they're betting on as long as they can assure the odds are favoring them.

So, I think it will still be a more niche market in ten or so years. But it will still be there, as long as there's a contest on.

I do understand on why some people do really throwing out those accusations but it cant really be denied that those are indeed possibilities which it do raises up some question on how the heck it did happen
among all of those beauties which the least had been selected but well it is really that said that those are baseless accusations but those are possibilities which there's nothing we can do if they do really have that
choice since it would really be always that final and this is why there's nothing we can do but to accept it out.Having those assumptions about this and that are something to be very
common in every competition.

I don't have a problem if the judges give some weight to other factors such as personality and charm as you have mentioned. But IMO, beauty should be the topmost metric. Afterall it is being dubbed as a contest to select the most beautiful woman in the world. But look at the winners for the last 5-6 editions. Some of them were outright ugly (don't want to list out all the names) and it is making a mockery of this contest. Previously in my country this event used to attract a lot of media attention. But nowadays hardly anyone cares, because the jury is so biased and give awards to undeserving candidates.

I agree, lets take a look at a different kind of contest like The Voice, we understand physical attractiveness and charm to be factors to decide the winner, as they are important too, but at the end the winner will still be a person with an amazing voice, if a contestant which was attractive and charming but which did not sang well won the contest it will make a joke out of it and then the whole contest will lose its reason to be, and it seems to me this is what is happening with Miss Universe.

I think the Miss Universe contest has been changing their rules and criteria over the years. Specially in the latest few years.

For example:

I don’t know who this year’s Miss Universe is, and definitely had no idea who it would be. However, after seeing the pageant’s new owner, I feel pretty safe in saying that next year’s winning won’t be a woman at all. I’d be willing to bet that next year’s winner will be a transvestite (is that still a word that’s acceptable to use?) male dressed as a woman. Is any platform letting you make that bet yet?

I don't doubt that could happen at some point, because in some regional and local competitions there are men participating among women. A big disrespect with women when organizers allow this anyway. However, it may take some years to be implemented in Miss Universe yet, because there are some ridiculous prohibitions to be extinguished first, like restricting age of models up to 28 years old. So, it would become even more bizarre if women above 28 years old couldn't compete, while men could. Unfortunatelly it's already a reality in sports betting, where there are men competing against women and having a huge advantage over them.

Well.. completely agree with this. Given the insane amounts of wokeness and political correctness injected in to this meaningless competition now, I can't rule out any such possibility. At the end, Miss Universe will also end up as a joke similar to Eurovision and we will have a winner similar to Conchita Wurst. Already transgenders are dominating some of the athletics competitions that are reserved for women. In order to ensure equality and to make a political statement, very soon they will be allowed in to competitions such as Miss Universe as well.

I am not sure how a "singer" has anything to do with wokeness. I mean does it really matter if you are male or female or trans or whatever you want to be called to win a singing contest? If you sing well, you win, and if you do not sing well, you lose. Shouldn't it be that simple? If you have a trans person joining miss universe, and that person is actually better looking then others, does it matter? They pick the most beautiful one and that means if a trans person is the best looking, they could end up winning too. That's not the trouble here though is it?

The trouble is justice, so if you think someone that is not the prettiest ends up winning for political reasons, then in that case it could happen in all-female competition too, trans do not change that, lack of justice is bad in every and all cases.

Ms. Universe focuses on women's advocacies and it's not about pretty faces or talented women. They usually select successful women and good communicators. Yes, there should be a gender equality nowadays and transgenders are accepted in the society but as a respect, they also have their own pageant which women also respect. This pageant is reserved for women with goals and promotes advocacies and they would serve as women's voices worldwide. The new owner might be transgender but they should know their limits when it comes to choosing the right candidates.

While some people might find these types of pageants as "degrading" to women, I find them to be the opposite.  Especially from what I've seen recently.  I know Donald Trump used to own and run this pageant, so I'm glad that he no longer does.  I find this pageant as empowering to women and a way to open many doors of opportunity for them. 

I of course absolutely loved Miss El Salvador and the bitcoin themed outfit she came out to.  To me this shows that the country is at the forefront of wanting to become technologically advanced.

The event is over and R'Bonney Gabriel won the event, but you will not be able to see a betting odds that is judged without a criteria that is yet known to anyone as only a select few make those judgement and there are plenty of inside politics at play and no bookies will be able to give out a odds on that, if you found any which bookie was offering them, the same with Oscars but we have betting odds on that but everyone can review the movies and have an opinion.

It's not that we discriminate them but this competition was like a tradition already so they must stick with the rules. There are still competitions out there for shemales, transgender, gays or whatever term you called it. Their real gender is still a male so it's not a problem if they can participate on those competition who are built for males but as long as they will fix their selves first e.g dressing like a man and then having a hair cut like a man so that it won't look weird when the audience watch them.

Let's admit it that having them in an event will make the event look more entertaining. I won't hesitate betting on them because they are also strong as a regular male.

I haven’t seen the outfit of Miss Salvador but I guess it’s not surprising at all if she used bitcoin themed because El Salvador will always be known as the first country to adopt bitcoin as a payment system. Well, that boosts our excitement too as there might be chances that in the next miss universe pageant, contestants will also be using another crypto themed that will lead to mass awareness about crypto. Miss Universe betting might also be possible in the next pageant as I don’t find betting odds this year.

You could check this one out.
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/miss-el-salvador-dons-golden-bitcoin-outfit-beauty-pageant-2023-01-13/

Miss El Salvador dons golden bitcoin outfit at beauty pageant

The thing that they've done on that costume does really increase out awareness of Bitcoins existence which i could say that it is really a great initiative for whomever
did consider on adding or showcasing that one. Good thing!

True. That will lost the essence of the contest if the judges keep on favoring those undeserving ones. Honestly, Miss Universe today does not have the topmost beauty but maybe the judges had seen her with talent and wit that makes her chosen as Miss Universe. With this, a lot of allegations came out that this beauty pageant has been rigged but as expected, Miss USA denies all of that.

Is there any beauty competition that are exclusive only for females? It seems like it's all gone to the sideways though the title represents beauty but I couldn't agree to make mix both female and trans in a competition. There's something wrong about it if you'd ask and I bet they didn't see it or just they're turning a blind eye or as well they want to promote the LGBT for these competition?

We all know that both genders have different strength and style when in athletic event but they did mix some trans on it and you already know the difference/advantage when in competition.

I just had to look 'em up for myself cus I ain't gonna lie, haven't heard that peeps normally wagered against the contestants just so a winner could emergeat the end; I thought it was predetermined by the US councilman or something....no? Then I've been reading through alot if post (though, bit thoroughly) to see if anyone has a clue,but to no avail... how's the OP even sure that it's possible?
R'Bonney Gabriel had to go home with the title and whatsoever gets awarded to the winner of the contest... She pretty lucky this time around. I sure hope to see someone more explicit...., and could someone please show us to a site that gives an option like that? Much thanks

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

No, they should have their own pageant and leave this to true-born women, not discriminating against the LGBT in fact we have a pageant for gays and lesbians here in our country but they never mix that, there will be a lot of protests if they will allow that, I read that there's was a recommendation to do that but they never entertain that because it will put down the pageant's true essence and this could put an end to the Miss Universe pageant, I support LGBT but they should leave this one alone, actually its more colorful to watch LGBT pageant they are wittier in the question and answers.

Probably that would be the case as the new owner is a trans woman so expect that there will be new set of rules and the board will accept transgender as they are now widely accepted worldwide. However, if we stick to its title itself, Miss Universe should be a real woman with real beauty and charm, and not a transgender. Although the advocacy will still be the same, but the POV might be somehow different now.

I would really disagree if ever they would really be allowing some transgen to join up this prestigious competition, not to have some discrimination about these transgen but let alone for this place for pure women.

It would really be good looking if we do see those traditional women who would compete for the crown and not for some men who turns out to be a woman.They should need to think up twice or thrice or even
more because if they would really be finalizing on such decision then for sure it would really be rained up by lots of criticisms basing into that.

That's fine, but nature doesn't care about any silly labels we humans like to put into people or objects.

Things and people simply are the way they are, in a continuum. Labeling them into categories is just a human thing, and of course it will bring issues because the reality doesn't work like that.

For example, colors. There are an infinite number of colors, because it's an illusion based on a physical property which is a continuum in the real world, electromagnetic energy with wavelengths from 380 to 700 nm. But humans decided to put labels to these colors, understandably. But also understandably there is always confusion about color, like The Dress: https://edition.cnn.com/2015/02/26/us/blue-black-white-gold-dress/index.html

Well, since this thread has devolved into a discussion which has little to nothing to do with betting (but rather political & social topics), I would advice to OP to lock this thread and let this topic to be moved elsewhere.

I assume there is not much to talk on betting since the Miss Universe is over anyways.

Is anyone going to disagree with me, if I claim that the importance of this competition is going down? Back in 1994, when Sushmita Sen was elected as the Miss Universe, there was a lot of coverage in the Indian media about it. The media coverage was much more modest back in 2000, when Lara Dutta won the title (2nd time for India). And when Harnaaz Sandhu became the Miss Universe in 2021, hardly any media outlets here gave importance to that news. I am talking about India, but for other countries it maybe different.

BTW, here are some facts that may help the gamblers:

Ever since the competition started in 1952, United States has won the maximum number of times (9), followed by Venezuela (7).
22 of the winners came from North America and 15 from South America.
Winners for the most recent 5 competitions are - United States, India, Mexico, South Africa and Philippines.

Of course, ‍agree with you, its valuation is degraded gradually. Nobody thinks so about this Miss Universe. Even a decade ago, when the Miss Universe pageant was held, the media used to make a lot of noise about it, but nowadays people's interest in this event has started to decrease. Moreover, many people are making negative comments about it because it is chosen from America most of the time.

But I don't want to adopt it as a tool for betting. Although it may be of interest to many. Moreover, I have never heard any such betting discussion in my long betting life. However, since people's interests are changing day by day, they may also be included in the future.

It's basically about finding people for Hollywood if you ask me, or whatever nation they are from. It's literally a way to bolster up a CV before they could act in anything. If you win miss universe, or if you were in anywhere near the top, that means you could get some acting roles, most of the miss universe contestants end up with either being "influencer" on instagram, which is easier because if you were in the competition then you have tens of thousands of followers at least, millions if you won.

And if you won, then there is a good chance you would be first offered commercial roles, and if you are any good, you could gradually go towards bigger roles in tv series or movies.

Agree on this one since the discussions isnt already that connected to betting but rather with having the personal opinions and discussions about the result then it is really something that being derailed.
So its better to lock up this thread but it seems that op hadnt logged in for couple of days but it would be good if this one would be locked out to avoid further discussions.
Its a must thing or simply mods could do up the locking.  :)

I had the opportunity to evaluate some criteria that maybe come up a lot and help a woman like this to stand out from the rest. In the case of the Dominican Republic, it was clearly seen that this woman had gone to the USA since she was little, to fight for herself. some women's rights, I believe that these things are taken into consideration and more for this type of competition, in the case of the USA I did not manage to study her much, she is undoubtedly a beautiful woman, but I also believe that this woman has a godfather Spectacular as the USA is, and the Venezuelan I cannot say anything before the magnificence of a woman, daughter of one of the most outstanding soccer goalkeepers that have ever existed, and above all a woman who comes from a very humble state and land, in my opinion Personally all my congratulations to the USA.

Why should anyone disagree??
Infact, it happens almost every other time in diverse sectors, when things get started and seems to be moving pretty cool only to get depreciated; maybe by people's interest, by reduction of the government's grant/warrant etc... Shiii' happens yunno.
I have seen that year to have been a very competitive edition of the miss universe; since it's rated by the prime fact that it's global, and it was one of its early days, so I see every reasons with them if they were more unique way back. Looking for a way to restore 'em is something the government should've figured out.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

IMO, the reason for the declining popularity is due to the fact that beautiful women are no longer getting elected as Miss Universe. The selection is rather based on political reasons. You can compare the winners from this competition, from back in 1990s to those who get the selection now. Back then, the winners used to be really good looking (that doesn't mean that they lagged behind in other characteristics such as communication). Look at the winners now, and in reality they would struggle to win a neighborhood beauty contest.

Do you really think the recent elected winners aren't pretty? For me the recent and the older ones are in the same beauty pattern... I just think it's curious there isn't any blue eyes, blonde, germanic winners, but every other ethnicities are represented there.

Miss Universe is really a tough task, because each person has their personal preferences regards appearance and behavior of a woman. Nowadays there is the agenda of "female empowerment" inside the feminism, that is a fact, but even if it wasn't for it, I think we couldn't reach an agreement on who should win the competition anyway, because of those personal preferences each one of us have.

It is definitely a tough task. To come here a participant must be proficient in various aspects. Apart from participating in beauty pageants in their own country, the participants have to be involved in modeling, cultural activities. The contestant has to be the first in the beauty pageant in her home country. Miss Universe is selected based on physical beauty as well as talent and skills ‍and when a contestant wins the modeling and acting skills of Miss Universe and the fashion pageant of her country then she can enter this international event.

There has been a massive change in how the contest works, and what they are looking for in a contestant. It's definitely different than in the 90s and before where the only thing that mattered was how the women look.

Now they add a lot of geopolitical stuff, and many other things, that might not be related to beauty.

It's a private contest so they can do anything they want, but I guess that's also why it's not so popular these days.

Like I said earlier, in a beauty contest, the primary metric should be "beauty".

I don't have any concern, in case they want to keep other metrics such as political orientation and communication skills, but these should be supplementary. When you have ugly looking winners selected as Miss Universe, just because of the so called "geopolitical concerns", then the contest itself loses its relevance. And this is the exact reason for declining popularity of this contest. I don't expect any changes to the competition format or scoring, as the organizers remain adamant about imposing their political views on others. So in the long term, this competition will become redundant and obsolete.

Regarding this competition, I have only seen some videos, it is not a reliable source, therefore I do not bring it with the source as I like to make my publications regarding everything that has to do with Gambling, games, bets, but I have given that in this Miss Universe there are many complaints, firstly because the owner is the brother of Miss USA, apart from that it is said that in the Final the decision of the judges was all for Venezuela and according to the fact that the next Miss Universe It won't matter if the woman is married, with children, and I don't know if they will include any other gender, because I think that because of this, interest in this competition is dropping.

This competition has never been important or meaningful. And the fading of its popularity (in fact it is only a decrease in the ecosystem of such contests) is a consequence of global trends. Now everyone can enjoy the beauty that he personally likes - with the help of Instagram, onlyfans or even neural networks. There is no point in watching some outdated contest.

My man clam down, I agree with from the view point that  the world Miss universe show is like before again, that is the truth about it. They have fashionated everything that the show is no longer interested. But for the coverage for the show or carrying out the news of the winner also depends on the amount of the money used by the organizers. Probably Indian candidate sponsored the program to be broadcast even after the show and when the winner has finally selected.  The world competitions are not like before again play football. In those days I can't sleep when world cup is going on but today everything is upside down. We are still praying to bring back that interesting glory to the world events.

Well, it has been giving high relevance way back then but I think as time goes by, it’s slowly losing its essence as Ms Universe has somehow become rigged already and that probably those winners are not that deserving having that certain title. I know this is all about beauty and brain, but seems nowadays the essence of beauty has gone already, only the brain now that matters the most which for me I totally disagree as both beauty and brain should be constantly present.

Well
So the recent Miss Universe isnt really that having the beauty?  Well, we could really make out some comparison in between other competing countries which its true that lots are more beautiful but there's no thing we can do since they had made out the decision and i do agree that it is somewhat rigged considering on those important factors are lacking.For us to have their own bets and preference then
lets just moved on because we dont have the rights on doing so and they do basing up with some criteria and there's nothing we can do about it but to move on.  :D
Its over and lets just hope that then next one should really be that convincing at least.

This competition is going to be obsolete and become outdated I guess. The beauty pageant has now lost its true essence on part of being a woman, knowing even a transgender will now be accepted in the next year’s Miss Universe probably knowing the new owner is a transgender itself. And yes, considering married women are already welcome to join, I guess that is way more absurd knowing this game is hopefully for single women out there only.

Its not really that Miss Universe that we do know on which pure women and single(not married) would be able to join.So the new owner is the one who messes up this competition which we do know that this is something

that lots of country representatives is trying to compete for and now they are really that allowing on things which arent supposed to be allowed.It is really that removing the over all essence of the competition.

Well, if this one would end up on this new mechanics and rules then im sure that it would really be in resulting on least anticipating and exciting competition not like in the past years.

I guess sportsbooks does not have this kind of event because it's just a rarely event and they didn't earn too much with this. We know it's happens every year and only has a small event before the miss universe, so there's a chance they will not add this as one of the listed people can bet.

This kind of events do happens once in a while so there is no how casinos can make a lot of money from this kind of events so. There are gamblers who are likely mostly interested in this kind of event and they always plan and make bets based in there predictions. This is a good game we can always try and see if we can participate in because casinos are always ready to drop there odds for this can of bet.
I am mostly interested in football bets that since I don't know much of Miss Universe since I do see it as a woman events where they showcase there talent by participating in some few events.

Sportsbooks don't allow events such as this one, because the risk for them is too high. You never know who has the higher chances to win the title, because nowadays the scoring is not based on beauty. There are close to 100 participants and if the sportsbooks allow bets on this event, then there is a very high chance that they will suffer considerable losses. There maybe a few which allow to place bets for Miss Universe, but even in such cases, the odds will be structured in such a way, that the winners will not get large returns.

and yes with those reasons I don't  think that Sportsbook will gamble and risk their chances to win , remember that gambling sites are here to win against us and not us against them.
so what they wanted to achieve is higher percent to win and that will not happen with this lot of  contestant and with bettors are from around the world.

We all (and I too) complain about propaganda and distortion, but if you look into the past, it used to be too. Even in these competitions. It is unlikely that in the past one could expect that the winner would be from a communist country, for example. But we generally liked that propaganda, so we don’t remember such facts very well. Modern propaganda is more perverted, so we notice it.

This kind of bets are really not common because of some numerous facts which ranges from unstipulated judgement as judgement are mostly determine by the number of voters which can easily be influenced or affected.
And the other reason is the unpopularity of the game and it now seems it is old fashioned and if there is any casino that still runs this type of bet or ran this type of bet will do it in such a way that the casino will have a greater edge and odd of winning over the play so as not to run into so much debts.
In general, I don't think this kind of bet is still active but I also think it will be a great one if Introduced and we'll regulated.

Odds been set would be entirely be depending on some factors or some into those casual odd making made out by bookies on which they do always set out on what are the numbers which are supposed to be set up.
Of course they are a business so its understandable that they would really be that keen on giving out numbers since they do know that it would really affect out their overall revenue.Its true that they would always
come after to make money against bettors.If they do saw that Miss U. cant give out sufficient profit or something risky for them to offer then they would just simply skip out.
Come to mind that there are lots of various sports which are more worth to give out some betting lines.

True. Propaganda before was more sympathetic and less imposing. Somehow they respected the public's natural choices, but it always existed anyway. The competitors and the winners are normal average women and seems to have always been. They have nothing in special compared to daily life women we meet. Actually, it's possible to find much more attractive and likeable girls routinely, when compared to the participants of this competition. After all, there isn't such thing as "miss universe".