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https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/02/03/craig-wrights-uk-case-against-16-bitcoin-developers-to-go-to-full-trial-report/

Is this guy retarded? Even if developers push in code updates that moves all the Satoshi coins to an address that Craig Wright controls, does he really expect the Bitcoin community to actually run the software? This must be the dumbest thing I've read in 2023.

It's actually quite old news, he has been busy suing Bitcoin Core developers since 2019 or even earlier than that.

Nobody seems to take his claims seriously anymore though, and that's a great thing.

You do begin to wonder how much more track CW & Ayre have to run now. They’ve been grifting for years now, might he time to hang up their gloves soon. I think the ultimate aim for them here is to force a fork of the early chain or something so they can claim the early coins that CW supposedly mined (which we know is total BS).

They will never get miner consensus on this though so I don’t know what the end game is. BSV is dead, I guess they’ll be around for a while but they’re running out of options.

According to OP's linked article, that claim was originally dismissed, but the court of appeal decided that there will be a trial.
No idea what are the implications of the mentioned 16 devs to just ignore it completely. I don't understand why he filed a claim in a UK court in the first place. As far as I know, not many of the influential devs are UK based.

And what's his endgame? There is zero chance he will get access to any of those addresses. Is he just abusing the legal systems to harass devs (vexatious litigation) in hopes that would somehow pump his BSV coin? I don't get it.

definitely, he has ulterior motives why he is doing such act. selfish reasons and maybe trying to get the attention of the crypto community again. these devs know where CW stands, so they will ignore him if they know he has nothing solid against them. it will be a long trial for nothing. i don't know how long CW will play his game.

Man. I could have sworn I had gone months without hearing about this guy again, and then wham it's CW time again. Or recyled news with minor update? Cannot care less, what an annoying start to the weekend ha.

Has he not already been bled dry (financially and reputationwise) by all his inane litigation? And how does he actually have any supporters left?

As far as I am informed, not even the Bitcoin Core developers can retrieve Bitcoins to CW, for obvious reasons concerning the private keys.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the only way it can happen it would be through a hard fork?
Since it would not make sense developers had the arbitrary power to "move" coins which do not belong to them.

As someone already mentioned, the community would never accept a fork which would only benefit this unsavory character.   ::)

 ;D ;D Here is the Hot news and I think he will not stop here

"The self-proclaimed author of the Bitcoin white paper claims Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash violate his intellectual property rights."(https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/02/08/craig-wright-loses-bitcoin-copyright-claim-in-uk-court/)

yes he wants the bitcoin whitepaper his mine

Craig Wright's Bitcoin Copyright Claim Rejected by UK Court – Here's What Happened - (https://cryptonews.com/news/craig-wrights-bitcoin-copyright-claim-rejected-by-uk-court-heres-what-happened.htm)

My hunch is that if a psychological test is done on Craig Wright, the diagnosis is that he's got some mental problems.

He's been running after core developers for years, giving them a hard time, disrupting their normal lives, even giving them financial troubles. And probably for no other reason but sheer bitterness.

But his reputation is already destroyed. He's been losing cases one after another. Nobody believes him anymore. He's not even worthy of anything now, not even the benefit of the doubt.

his "worth" (to his buddy investors) is not measured in reputation or trust of being the guy he claims.. they know he is not satoshi. their promised returns are in book deals, movie deals of his action packed biography of drama, patent SLAPP compensation, and business sell-offs

yea when ayres jumped onboard as a investor, ayres was always a guy into greed and scammery. he has a sworded legal history. he only tries to say CSW is satoshi just to keep the drama alive. hoping places like 20th century fox or netflix want to buy up the rights to tell CSW story in a movie

ayres passion is movies. so yea CSW spotted that and obviously* promised ayres rights to his biography to write books and movies if ayres funded CSW ventures

s.matthews has passions in IP and company acquisitions so obviously* promised ownerships of CSW's subsidiaries (CSW set up many shell companies with fake value)

j. nguyen has passions in IP and tech law. so obviously* promised ownerships of patents and ROI of SLAPP lawsuits and court compensations

... but as long as they can keep the drama well funds and alive to be about to recoup those investments

*obviously in my opinion (there are quotes available that say how certain people were promised returns of patent claims, business sell-offs and book-movie deals)
so looking at whos history/passions are what. you can obviously see who was promised what

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obviously they are not going to get ROI/break even. but they are in too deep now so gotta keep it up rather than give up

Except, you know, the court... which is what actually matters to the people he's harassing. :-/

Not 100% sure, but I think a hard fork would be required as well. Not that CSW would know the difference though, as what he wants to happen is totally irrational and impossible to achieve to begin with. If he actually ends up getting the devs to push such an update, people wouldn't run the core update and it would just end up being another Bitcoin fork.

Sewing would have made him a nice suit instead of suing in hopes of a successful lawsuit.😉 Core devs should really look for a hole to hide, I'm going after them next! I just need to come up with something that sticks, you know.

courts are not making claims.. they are just the mediators of arguments(claims) presented to them.
if there is a dispute/contention that cannot be resolved by itself. then thats what the court do. they mediate the arguments and come to a judgement

obviously they have not been given enough counter arguments (from the dev lawyers) or enough information to give the judge to just quash the case at hearing level. so its been moved on to trial to get more information to make an informed judgement

you cant presume the judge knows he is a scammer just by name recognition/media and hope the judge threw out the case at the claims/hearing level. your lawyers have to tell the judge(and now judge+jury) because they can only judge things based on what is said within the proceedings.

so instead of playing defense to CSW claims which is just a duck, weave, dodge or block of CSW claims, arguments(lies).. your lawyers need to present how CSW is a false entity with no rights, no power or authority thus any and all csw argument are void and that there is no claim.
dont just be on the defence of this arguments

you cant just say the court is taking him seriously. its actually that the court does not know either way and wants to know more. so your side needs to inform the judge and not hope the judge can figure it out on his own without your side presenting the details the judge needs to figure out

Are we still paying attention to this attention seeker, I don't think he is worth the time as this noise has been around for a while now.

His lawsuit is nothing new and with time this one will be kicked out of the court, just like the others.

Craig wright has claimed to be Satoshi for as long as I can remember but he is yet to prove a thing to support that claim, and his scam of a Bitcoin fork (BSV) has proven further what his intentions have been.

Maybe no one in the community does, but that doesn't stop him lodging frivolous lawsuit after frivolous lawsuit, with huge financial implications for the developers he is suing, not to mention the time and stress involved with defending themselves against these bullshit claims.

They've already done this. BSV now has a mechanism in which they can arbitrary seize coins which do not belong to them. The whole point of them pushing 4 GB blocks in BSV and other such nonsense was to make it prohibitively expensive to run a node and prohibitively expensive to mine. When there are only half a dozen nodes, and CSW and his buddies control them all, then they can dictate the rules. A transaction which moves Satoshi coins without providing a signature? Totally fine in CSW's scamcoin!

He is being funded by rich people he has conned. The longer he keeps up the con, the more money he makes.

And therein lies the problem. CSW with his millionaire backers can hire a team of 9+ lawyers and take to court a school teacher with no resources to hire lawyers or mount his own legal defense, which is exactly what happened in the Hodlonaut trial (which CSW still managed to lose spectacularly). A case such as this can be enough to financial ruin someone, even they win.

We didn't heard anything regarding him for several months that's why he's doing it again.
He wants clout. He wants exposure. He wants fame that's why he's doing this even though it makes him very stupid already.

I don't know if there will be somebody that will take what he is saying seriously especially when it comes to Bitcoin, and most of us already know that he is Faketoshi not Satoshi. :D I wonder what does he wanna prove to us.

I'd say the coins are arguably not yours to begin with, is the seizure action not written into the BSV codebase in the same way that the absolute custody of BTC is written into Bitcoin?

but this actually differs from the common expectations of what owning electronic money implies, although I should think it's possible for anyone to understand what the satoshi design does, even if it's not possible for the same people to understand how it's possible. is that not most people's relationship to money anyway (knowing what it is and how to use it, and no more than that), and hence why it's so easy to trick people with money systems?


that's only one possibility, and we'll likely never know either way. self-evidently, no proof exists that Wright is cheating anyone other than those he's suing

problem?
if CSW with millions and 9 lawyers couldnt beat a primary/elementary teacher
i fail to see the problem apart from harassing a school teacher stressing a school teacher.
CSw lost to a school teacher becasue hodlnauts side asked some good questions and informed the judge better about the whole situation
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the current DEVS should have responded to CSW filing with better answers/info that would have got the judge to dismiss the case at the start. and not need a trial to get more info to make an informed decision

the devs presumed it would have got thrown out early due to the devs knowing csw was a fraud but they forgot to inform the judge of proof of fraud/fakery/deception. to get the judge informed enough to dismiss it
now they have to inform him at trial

I suppose you are right. When CSW and his buddies can arbitrarily move any coins, then at best on BSV you have an IOU from CSW. It's really not that different to a centralized exchange - CSW owns everything, you can only use "your" coins with his permission, and you can lose everything at a moment's notice and there is nothing you can do about it.

And because of a huge community campaign which raised $1.5 million to fund Hodlonaut's legal team: https://opensats.org/projects/opensats_legal_defense

having lawyers that know the law is what they mainly get paid for and an advantage. but im sure the dev team know more about CSW sworded life than some fresh faced legal team does.
yes it wil cost a lot for the dev team to consult with their lawyers to teach them the intricacies of bitcoin code, network protocol and CSW social drama so that the lawyer can come up with compelling arguments and stuff to inform the judge.
but i am sure the devs already (and as i was saying before) know of a few easy hit responses to knock CSW down a few pegs

so its not all about needing big money to fight back its about knowing what needs to be said to fight back

a case is not won by who has the bigger purse. its about whos side has the better responses and the responses that answer any information needed to win the case

(some legal teams are hired and they dont want to know the details. they dont want their client to speak. they think they can win because they are hotshots......
the types that dont want to talk much about facts of the case but keep raising references to other cases of verdict as precedent that show the case should be won due you some dude in the 1980 won.. you know the types well versed in case law, but dont know much about current case subject matter..
end then they lose (as CSW learned))
i can already see how CSW team is using old case law as reference material of trying to get the judge to side with CSW.. and it didnt work)

 the best lawyers are not the most expensive. they are the most informed researched and prepared to inform with evidence and fact of the subject matter of this case. and know how to disprove the opposition.
where the devs should be helping their lawyers with factual stuff that show CSw is a fake, to inform the judge.. (and not just let the lawyers throw around 100 different case history verdicts as their proof of what the judge to rule by

Have you not heard of SLAPP lawsuits? The whole point of them is to make the defendant rack up high costs, even in cases where the claimant knows they aren't going to win.

It is incredibly naive to say the devs know more about bitcoin than CSW, so it will be easy for them to win. I'm sure they can hand their legal team pages and pages of hard evidence of CSW's lies, forgeries, technical incompetence, and so on, but the legal team will still be charging hundreds (if not thousands) of dollars an hour to go through it all to generate a winning case, not to mention the trial itself can drag out over several weeks. Legal costs, even for such a case where the opposing side is clearly and provably wrong, can still mount to millions of dollars.

Except often it is. A side which is clearly wrong (CSW) will have a harder time defending itself, but a side which is clearly wrong with a multi-million dollar legal team can easily beat someone who is right with no funding. And even if/when the devs win, CSW doesn't care about winning. He cares about intimidating people with these frivolous lawsuits and the cost of defending them.

so lets intimidate him with the same tactics, just start drawing up class action lawsuits claiming that craig has defrauded x of x  amount of money. There is literally no ethical boundary in doing so and I am SURE one of you OG bitcoiners has enough money to fight him. so if one of you held your coins and gives a fuck maybe you will start fighting that retard.

I am starting to think he has some sort of mental illness and all these lawsuits are a cry for help. Not that he is going to get any sympathy from me one way or another.

But there are people like that. Who go around pretending to be someone great, just so that others pay them money/attention. Megalomania is the illness, I believe. Craig Wrong obviously will never be able to get any real power over Bitcoin or the Bitcoin Core developers. At this point all he is doing is annoying people. But even that negative attention is attention. And I believe he enjoys it.

to say what is already said

its not about the highest paid lawyer.. its the best informed lawyer

i seen more cases won based on simply a lawyer that can in an uncomplicated way say something that a judge understands without much jargon. and gets to the matter at hand.
compared to another lawyer that charges top price and just wants to compare the case to 30 other cases in the last 50 years where they waste time and money trying to persuade the judge to side with their side due to all these verdict precedents of the past

take for instance CSW latest court. where his team instead of teaching the judge about blockheader files. CSW side wanted to use case history of other technologies used in the past that the verdict found in favour of.

whereby (however) the judge knew enough about the layout of a blockheader to know CSW crap was just crap

you cant say a network continually uses a (literacy quote(paragraph)) thus breaching copyright.. if each block has a different (literacy quote paragraph) data in it

the judge knows the versionbits of a block changed a few times over the years the prev has id changes every block, the time changes every block. the difficulty every 2016 blocks and the merkle  tree hash and nonce every block

and that reading a block there is just binary data. which even converting to hex or alpha numeric are not fixed characters/words/paragraph's.. each block is different

no where in the blockchain does one block look like another block
when looking at the data, not only is it different per block. there is no symbol. break that forces the binary data to be certain thing

so while the judge was asking about the block data that was supposedly under copy right. CSW lawyer(solicitor) was wasting time talking about case law of SAS institute

thus they lost because they were not proving a point about the current case material.. nor CSW proof of ownership

I tend to agree with o_e_l_e_o's line of thought about the lawsuits, with a bit of a difference being that I think the goal is to stay popular and seem important, not to silence the opposition. There are people who have enough money, time, and joy out of suing people in lawsuits they can't really win, but that would give them publicity, drain the funds of the defendants, and waste everyone's time because that's not what the judicial system is for.
I don't think he wants to win this one, or that he's dumb enough to believe that something can be changed in the protocol to give him access to 'his' money (if it's Bitcoin we're talking about). It's just an ongoing fuss he's making, harassing people and staying in the media this way.

yes i also agree about the SLAPP part of OELEO post..
but thats more because i infact was telling oeleo about slapps during the hodlnaut case. so it was funny for him to then spin things around like that
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410629.msg60840676#msg60840676
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5413844.msg61016828#msg61016828

yes CSW does not care win or lose
CSW is playing differnt games.. one to win cases to revruit more silly investors to prolong the other game.. the other game is get more fame to add action and intrige into his biography

win or lose
its just more fame and an additional bulletpoint to add to his dramatic biography that he promises to sale for book deals and movie rights to repay his investors

the more drama and controversy the more compelling his story is and worthy of selling

Craig Wright belongs in a padded room in a mental facility.

Craig Wright has all the money in the world to do whatever he wants and he chooses to spend all his free time psychotically obsessing over this crazy nonsense? What is he trying to accomplish with all this nonsense?? Having $20 billion isn't enough for him to just enjoy his life? Just what is this fool's malfunction? Maybe he should seek some mental help he can certainly afford it. Call up Dr. Phil or Jerry Springer.

If Mr. Wright is so miserable that he can't find anything better to do with $20 billion then my professional advice for him is to go find the nearest high-rise building in his area, take the elevator to the top floor or roof, then jump off of it. Put yourself out of your misery already and do the world a favor you miserable waste of space.

Someone like Craig Scammer Wright is abusing the flaws in the legal system to create nuisance for everyone, some more than others. And he will continue doing that until the day he is stopped. Unfortunately everyone in front of him has always been mostly in the defensive position defending themselves, bitcoin, etc. instead of being on the offensive (meaning instead of suing his ass and putting him in jail).

There isn't any exclusivity about going on the offensive.  Most people just seem to have a personal policy against wrestling with pigs.

There are many potential routes,

Why aren't AU taxpayers demanding that this scammer who stole millions in you tax money and tried to steal tens of millions more isn't arrested?

Why aren't alums of institutions he's sullying with his plagiarized degrees-- to puff up his flaccid credibility-- demanding inquiry?

Why aren't people who lost money on BSV and Wright's rolling iceburgs and $1200  BSV coins demanding blood?

He stole bitcoin from Gavin and Rory Cellan-Jones-- not a ton but I believe 0.11 BTC he got from Gavin is enough to be a felony.

What of the perjury, the forgeries, the false police reports?

His scamming didn't start with Bitcoin why not dig up people from his past and convince them to speak up?

What about Ayre's questionably legal 'entertainment'?  The Canadian publicly traded BSV mining pool that sure looked like it was cooking the books before it did a forced share buypack and made most of its bag holders realize a big loss.

You know what happened to the attorney that was running the case against Wright in florida?  They had a fixer fly the guy to london with promises of investment in his firm, when he got there the intoxicating substances came out. With their target thoroughly inebriated they made a bunch of hidden recordings. They scrambled up the context and used voice masking to disguise the edits.  Published some excerpts and got him fired from a dozen cases and probably ruined his career.   They'd do the same to Bitcoin devs but they're too boring to get entrapped like that, anyone interested in that kind of high flying lifestyle ran off with the Eth heads on their vision quest long ago-- though I think they've tried.

Whats the bitcoin community doing?  Collectively standing around with its dick in its hand getting distracted about some irrelevant jpegs embedded in transactions? Busy fighting with each other rather than addressing an unambiguous enemy of Bitcoin?

There is no authority to step in to protect Bitcoin from bad actors: It's each persons own responsibility.  I'd like to do more but being a plaintiff in his lawsuits is handicapping.

Wright is a con without a fact on his side and hardly two clues to rub together, but he's making it up for with pure aggression.   Hell, in Florida his latest move is firing his opponents attorney and appointing his own!  It's obviously not going to work, but the courts are so limp wristed with him ever since he started claiming to be autistic that it probably won't hurt him to try it.

CSW making a claim which he can just change/edit add to, means he is one step forward in the power balance of evidence and weight of whos side gets a positive verdict right from the start (EG if the defendant doesnt turn up. its default judgement for the claimant)
this means the defendants opposing CSW are left chasing whatever CSW is saying and needing to prove their side rather than disprove his

( v this is not an insult or insinuation. this is a random example of an event made up not a personal attack  its just a colourful example of random situation v)
EG if i said you wear pink dresses and attend gay bars. its then upto you in court to prove you dont
and i can just say i witnessed you in a dress on a thursday of december.. its then upto you to find proof of you not being where i said your were seen that day
(requires you wsting your life trying to find receipts or plane tickets or GPS car data to prove different location at accused time)

its not upto me to prove you were there. as i can make a "from the best of my memory" witness statement as the only evidence i require

 its for you to prove you were not, as the only way to disprove my witness

thats where your lawyer would then at hearing.trial would need to ask for my evidence and ill just hand them a witness statement..
with 3 banker bros as secondary witnesses.
which means you then have to find better evidence to counter 4 witness statements to re-balance the weight of evidence
EG if 4 people were saying you were at this gay bar in a dress. and you cant prove your actual whereabouts. balance of evidence suggests you were in a pink dress in a gay bar
(^ this is not an insult or insinuation. this is a random example of an event made up not a personal attack  its just a colourful example of random situation ^)

this is why being a claimant has more power on its side from the beginning than being a defendant

and thats what CSW relies on.. having you on the defense chasing after all his unproven allegations where you are then having to chase up evidence to disprove him

(i know you probably know all this. but its more of a explainer for the wider readership of the forum)

the ATO drama of 2014-16 ended i believe with the companies involved in syphoning tax money, being wound up/shut down by the ATO (excuse memory im travelling and dont have notes on me.. i think the demorgan/cloudcroft were some brands mentioned as receivers of tax that are now defunct and unprosecutable now)

perjury is not a fight of penalty in civil cases
anyone can lie unless it causes real harm. then to prove that the harm is criminal harm is another level.
it requires someone making a claim and getting the "crown prosecution service"/"US district attorney"(country dependant) to validate its a crime worthy of a charge
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as for the college/uni forgeries of degrees.
well from what things i did look into years ago i found that he had a team of "ghost writers" write loads of degrees out in his name. where some/most degrees did actually get accredited in his name. and hard to prove CSW didnt personally write them

soo value for money is it worth a university wasting millions investigating and trying to find evidence of ghost writing.. where by even if finding it, they put their own earlier submission and application vetting process into question and ruining the uni's own reputation .. or.. pretend there is not a problem and let the lie lay silent and unresolved

ayres has lots of charges and legal troubles
thats why he is hiding in antigua


code is bitcoins authority(consensus rules WAS the lawbook). just a shame a certain team softened bitcoin law(code) and certain team called themselves the CORE of bitcoin and putting up core team managed moderator doormen to wall-out independence and en-castle the devs into a central point.. which now CSW is attacking

if core was more open gate allowing other brand of nodes to also do proposals and develop onchain without REKT's
without core also having a hierarchy and moderator vetting of who gets Acknowledged.. true openness..
rather than just open source(like a open newspaper, anyone can read the pages, but that does not mean they get to be a newspaper editor/reporter).
if the moderators of all development venues/platforms were independent and not the same few members that had or have core merge privilege. there would not be a central point of attack

this is not me attacking you. this is me just stating the situation. and where the benefits for cores reasoning to en-castle themselves up as a monarchy, vetting the peasants(volunteers), . has bit them in the ass

Craig Wright is an attack vector, a virus, a trojan and he will do everything he can to bring bitcoin down. He is no dumb at all. Think about all the people he fucked over and  how he got his wealth, now think about what he can do with the assets he controls now.

He is probably one of the most serious threats bitcoin will ever face.

He stopped attacking the network as BSV already failed. Now he is attacking the devs because without the devs... who knows what would happen to btc...

That's difficult to achieve, 99% of BTC people are anonymous, and we only know them through their pseudonyms, cases like these would require the plaintiff to give up some of their anonymous status, and not many people would want to do that just to waste their time with Faketoshi. And BTC isn't a centralized company or organization with CEO's, Directors, lawyers, etc, so no individual in the network is obliged to use or waste their money on something like this, no matter how rich you think they are.

And i would say rather than waste money on a suit like this without any evidence of the people he has defrauded, it is better the money be donated to help the devs that have been sued by Faketoshi, so they could defend themselves once and for all.

Craig Wright (FakeToshi) are actually playing a very tactical game, because he know the judicial system are full of loopholes and he has the money to exploit it. He can poke "Bitcoin" from all sides, because he has the money and he has the time.... and he is not attacking a large corporate entity with unlimited resources and teams of lawyers. (Google / Microsoft / Facebook etc..)

The Bitcoin community are so divided, when we consider what happened during the fork wars.... that he only needs to attack individuals or small groups of people to find one or two loopholes that will give him a foot in the door.  (We need massive collective action to squash him like a bug that he is)  >:(

This pig is different though. It will pull you down in its lair and force you to wrestle with him :D

One battle should never be overlooked in favor of another though.

Bitcoin community collectively wishes you a good luck!
Big whales, miners, exchanges don't really care what happens, in fact, this could actually be them funding CW for these lawsuits just to discredit core developers.

Satoshi here has more than others to lose, he could lose more than a million BSV. You and other devs could lose your power over core. I don't see any danger to the "community", you are on your own. Though it would be good to know what the community has to lose here.

If he can 1) prove in court he is Satoshi with this and 2) then he has the 'proof' to make the Bitcoin Devs make a 'fork' to get all Satoshi's coin 3) Well, BTC as such is 'toast' IMHO at that point. Remember it is a 'Jury' Trial..so if he can 'convince' them of the above it will be 'quite' the sh*tshow then. :(

Imho I don't think any of these matter at all. The only thing that matters is if he can claim copyright for bitcoin's source code - which if granted would set an extremely dangerous precedent when it comes to other open source software. Which is why I am 100% certain it won't happen.

Ooh, scary stuff. Lol. A jury trial in some country means zero fack to the bitcoin end user. Remember, bitcoin is not a single software, bitcoin is an address, and a private key, and a database, good luck to any court in the world for accessing any private key for a certain number of addresses.
No one can "convince" anyone to do anything, this is not a problem for anyone, the one who could lose the most, is Satoshi, he seems not to care.

the silly thing about CSW is if he wants to claim btc devs are fiduciaries. then that means CSW by a big multiplier definitively is a fiduciary for bsv...
because he proudly and loudly has announced himself as the owner of BVS and (main prerequisite) money manages funds in and on BSV.. so he is fiduciary of BSV,

and well, much like how influencers with fiduciary responsibility were advertising FTX they are being investigated for possible crimes

CSW does "manage money" for BSV investors and also payment reversals and such so is accepting he is a fiduciary of BSV thus investigations should and could be done on him for his deceptions
(thought as he is not american it wont be the SEC it would be the UK FCA)
(feel free to make a complaint to FCA about CSW and BSV. hint hint)

core devs dont money manage sats.bitcoins.
much like bill gates doesnt money manage banks that use his excel spreadsheets

but CSW has admitted to owning BSV and money management of investments on and within BSV

which is what separates the two

Old news. He has been suing people since 2019. He's like the Billy Mitchell of the crypto industry. Self-proclaimed founder of the biggest dtore of value on the planet, can't prove it, and sues everyone who rubs him off the wrong way. I wouldn't trust nor be scared of anything this guy puts out. He's basically a joke at this point. For instance, his claims of Bitcoin Devs being able to push codes to pass satoshi ownership to him is just plain stupid. Of course they can possibly do it. But is it democratic, is it something the public would agree? Not really. I don't know how his evidences hold up in court but I doubt anyone ever takes this guy seriously except I guess his mom and his lawyers. Let's move on to bigger things, Craig Wright is old news.