Craig Wright suing 16 Bitcoin developers

[arbiter5]

Bitcoin Core developers work on the key software underpinning Bitcoin, focusing their efforts on a variety of improvements (privacy, security, user experience, etc.) at the base layer of Bitcoin. They are often volunteers who may sometimes accept funding grants or donations in support of their work.

Wright contends that Bitcoin developers can easily change the protocol's code in order to return the keys to those funds to him.

https://www.coindesk.com/business/2023/02/03/craig-wrights-uk-case-against-16-bitcoin-developers-to-go-to-full-trial-report/

Is this guy retarded? Even if developers push in code updates that moves all the Satoshi coins to an address that Craig Wright controls, does he really expect the Bitcoin community to actually run the software? This must be the dumbest thing I've read in 2023.

[NotATether]

It's actually quite old news, he has been busy suing Bitcoin Core developers since 2019 or even earlier than that.

Nobody seems to take his claims seriously anymore though, and that's a great thing.

[DeathAngel]

You do begin to wonder how much more track CW & Ayre have to run now. They’ve been grifting for years now, might he time to hang up their gloves soon. I think the ultimate aim for them here is to force a fork of the early chain or something so they can claim the early coins that CW supposedly mined (which we know is total BS).

They will never get miner consensus on this though so I don’t know what the end game is. BSV is dead, I guess they’ll be around for a while but they’re running out of options.

[pawel7777]

It's actually quite old news, he has been busy suing Bitcoin Core developers since 2019 or even earlier than that.

Nobody seems to take his claims seriously anymore though, and that's a great thing.

According to OP's linked article, that claim was originally dismissed, but the court of appeal decided that there will be a trial.
No idea what are the implications of the mentioned 16 devs to just ignore it completely. I don't understand why he filed a claim in a UK court in the first place. As far as I know, not many of the influential devs are UK based.

And what's his endgame? There is zero chance he will get access to any of those addresses. Is he just abusing the legal systems to harass devs (vexatious litigation) in hopes that would somehow pump his BSV coin? I don't get it.

[AmoreJaz]

It's actually quite old news, he has been busy suing Bitcoin Core developers since 2019 or even earlier than that.

Nobody seems to take his claims seriously anymore though, and that's a great thing.

According to OP's linked article, that claim was originally dismissed, but the court of appeal decided that there will be a trial.
No idea what are the implications of the mentioned 16 devs to just ignore it completely. I don't understand why he filed a claim in a UK court in the first place. As far as I know, not many of the influential devs are UK based.

And what's his endgame? There is zero chance he will get access to any of those addresses. Is he just abusing the legal systems to harass devs (vexatious litigation) in hopes that would somehow pump his BSV coin? I don't get it.

definitely, he has ulterior motives why he is doing such act. selfish reasons and maybe trying to get the attention of the crypto community again. these devs know where CW stands, so they will ignore him if they know he has nothing solid against them. it will be a long trial for nothing. i don't know how long CW will play his game.

[buwaytress]

Man. I could have sworn I had gone months without hearing about this guy again, and then wham it's CW time again. Or recyled news with minor update? Cannot care less, what an annoying start to the weekend ha.

Has he not already been bled dry (financially and reputationwise) by all his inane litigation? And how does he actually have any supporters left?

[Hispo]

As far as I am informed, not even the Bitcoin Core developers can retrieve Bitcoins to CW, for obvious reasons concerning the private keys.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the only way it can happen it would be through a hard fork?
Since it would not make sense developers had the arbitrary power to "move" coins which do not belong to them.

As someone already mentioned, the community would never accept a fork which would only benefit this unsavory character.   

[dansus021]

It's actually quite old news, he has been busy suing Bitcoin Core developers since 2019 or even earlier than that.

Nobody seems to take his claims seriously anymore though, and that's a great thing.

  Here is the Hot news and I think he will not stop here

"The self-proclaimed author of the Bitcoin white paper claims Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash violate his intellectual property rights."(https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/02/08/craig-wright-loses-bitcoin-copyright-claim-in-uk-court/)

yes he wants the bitcoin whitepaper his mine

Craig Wright's Bitcoin Copyright Claim Rejected by UK Court – Here's What Happened - (https://cryptonews.com/news/craig-wrights-bitcoin-copyright-claim-rejected-by-uk-court-heres-what-happened.htm)

[Darker45]

My hunch is that if a psychological test is done on Craig Wright, the diagnosis is that he's got some mental problems.

He's been running after core developers for years, giving them a hard time, disrupting their normal lives, even giving them financial troubles. And probably for no other reason but sheer bitterness.

But his reputation is already destroyed. He's been losing cases one after another. Nobody believes him anymore. He's not even worthy of anything now, not even the benefit of the doubt.

[franky1]

his "worth" (to his buddy investors) is not measured in reputation or trust of being the guy he claims.. they know he is not satoshi. their promised returns are in book deals, movie deals of his action packed biography of drama, patent SLAPP compensation, and business sell-offs

yea when ayres jumped onboard as a investor, ayres was always a guy into greed and scammery. he has a sworded legal history. he only tries to say CSW is satoshi just to keep the drama alive. hoping places like 20th century fox or netflix want to buy up the rights to tell CSW story in a movie

ayres passion is movies. so yea CSW spotted that and obviously* promised ayres rights to his biography to write books and movies if ayres funded CSW ventures

s.matthews has passions in IP and company acquisitions so obviously* promised ownerships of CSW's subsidiaries (CSW set up many shell companies with fake value)

j. nguyen has passions in IP and tech law. so obviously* promised ownerships of patents and ROI of SLAPP lawsuits and court compensations

... but as long as they can keep the drama well funds and alive to be about to recoup those investments

*obviously in my opinion (there are quotes available that say how certain people were promised returns of patent claims, business sell-offs and book-movie deals)
so looking at whos history/passions are what. you can obviously see who was promised what
obviously they are not going to get ROI/break even. but they are in too deep now so gotta keep it up rather than give up

[gmaxwell]

Nobody seems to take his claims seriously anymore though,

Except, you know, the court... which is what actually matters to the people he's harassing. :-/

[mk4]

As far as I am informed, not even the Bitcoin Core developers can retrieve Bitcoins to CW, for obvious reasons concerning the private keys.

Correct me if I am wrong, but the only way it can happen it would be through a hard fork?
Since it would not make sense developers had the arbitrary power to "move" coins which do not belong to them.

As someone already mentioned, the community would never accept a fork which would only benefit this unsavory character.   

Not 100% sure, but I think a hard fork would be required as well. Not that CSW would know the difference though, as what he wants to happen is totally irrational and impossible to achieve to begin with. If he actually ends up getting the devs to push such an update, people wouldn't run the core update and it would just end up being another Bitcoin fork.

[digaran]

Sewing would have made him a nice suit instead of suing in hopes of a successful lawsuit.😉 Core devs should really look for a hole to hide, I'm going after them next! I just need to come up with something that sticks, you know.

[franky1]

Nobody seems to take his claims seriously anymore though,

Except, you know, the court... which is what actually matters to the people he's harassing. :-/

courts are not making claims.. they are just the mediators of arguments(claims) presented to them.
if there is a dispute/contention that cannot be resolved by itself. then thats what the court do. they mediate the arguments and come to a judgement

obviously they have not been given enough counter arguments (from the dev lawyers) or enough information to give the judge to just quash the case at hearing level. so its been moved on to trial to get more information to make an informed judgement

you cant presume the judge knows he is a scammer just by name recognition/media and hope the judge threw out the case at the claims/hearing level. your lawyers have to tell the judge(and now judge+jury) because they can only judge things based on what is said within the proceedings.

so instead of playing defense to CSW claims which is just a duck, weave, dodge or block of CSW claims, arguments(lies).. your lawyers need to present how CSW is a false entity with no rights, no power or authority thus any and all csw argument are void and that there is no claim.
dont just be on the defence of this arguments

you cant just say the court is taking him seriously. its actually that the court does not know either way and wants to know more. so your side needs to inform the judge and not hope the judge can figure it out on his own without your side presenting the details the judge needs to figure out

[Ojima-ojo]

Are we still paying attention to this attention seeker, I don't think he is worth the time as this noise has been around for a while now.

His lawsuit is nothing new and with time this one will be kicked out of the court, just like the others.

Craig wright has claimed to be Satoshi for as long as I can remember but he is yet to prove a thing to support that claim, and his scam of a Bitcoin fork (BSV) has proven further what his intentions have been.

[o_e_l_e_o]

Nobody seems to take his claims seriously anymore though, and that's a great thing.

Maybe no one in the community does, but that doesn't stop him lodging frivolous lawsuit after frivolous lawsuit, with huge financial implications for the developers he is suing, not to mention the time and stress involved with defending themselves against these bullshit claims.

You do begin to wonder how much more track CW & Ayre have to run now. They’ve been grifting for years now, might he time to hang up their gloves soon. I think the ultimate aim for them here is to force a fork of the early chain or something so they can claim the early coins that CW supposedly mined (which we know is total BS).

They've already done this. BSV now has a mechanism in which they can arbitrary seize coins which do not belong to them. The whole point of them pushing 4 GB blocks in BSV and other such nonsense was to make it prohibitively expensive to run a node and prohibitively expensive to mine. When there are only half a dozen nodes, and CSW and his buddies control them all, then they can dictate the rules. A transaction which moves Satoshi coins without providing a signature? Totally fine in CSW's scamcoin!

And what's his endgame? There is zero chance he will get access to any of those addresses. Is he just abusing the legal systems to harass devs (vexatious litigation) in hopes that would somehow pump his BSV coin? I don't get it.

He is being funded by rich people he has conned. The longer he keeps up the con, the more money he makes.

your lawyers need to present how CSW is a false entity with no rights, no power or authority thus any and all csw argument are void and that there is no claim.

And therein lies the problem. CSW with his millionaire backers can hire a team of 9+ lawyers and take to court a school teacher with no resources to hire lawyers or mount his own legal defense, which is exactly what happened in the Hodlonaut trial (which CSW still managed to lose spectacularly). A case such as this can be enough to financial ruin someone, even they win.

[LogitechMouse]

We didn't heard anything regarding him for several months that's why he's doing it again.
He wants clout. He wants exposure. He wants fame that's why he's doing this even though it makes him very stupid already.

I don't know if there will be somebody that will take what he is saying seriously especially when it comes to Bitcoin, and most of us already know that he is Faketoshi not Satoshi. I wonder what does he wanna prove to us.

[Carlton Banks]

BSV now has a mechanism in which they can arbitrary seize coins which do not belong to them.

I'd say the coins are arguably not yours to begin with, is the seizure action not written into the BSV codebase in the same way that the absolute custody of BTC is written into Bitcoin?

but this actually differs from the common expectations of what owning electronic money implies, although I should think it's possible for anyone to understand what the satoshi design does, even if it's not possible for the same people to understand how it's possible. is that not most people's relationship to money anyway (knowing what it is and how to use it, and no more than that), and hence why it's so easy to trick people with money systems?

He is being funded by rich people he has conned. The longer he keeps up the con, the more money he makes.

that's only one possibility, and we'll likely never know either way. self-evidently, no proof exists that Wright is cheating anyone other than those he's suing

[franky1]

your lawyers need to present how CSW is a false entity with no rights, no power or authority thus any and all csw argument are void and that there is no claim.

And therein lies the problem. CSW with his millionaire backers can hire a team of 9+ lawyers and take to court a school teacher with no resources to hire lawyers or mount his own legal defense, which is exactly what happened in the Hodlonaut trial (which CSW still managed to lose spectacularly). A case such as this can be enough to financial ruin someone, even they win.

problem?
if CSW with millions and 9 lawyers couldnt beat a primary/elementary teacher
i fail to see the problem apart from harassing a school teacher stressing a school teacher.
CSw lost to a school teacher becasue hodlnauts side asked some good questions and informed the judge better about the whole situation
...
the current DEVS should have responded to CSW filing with better answers/info that would have got the judge to dismiss the case at the start. and not need a trial to get more info to make an informed decision

the devs presumed it would have got thrown out early due to the devs knowing csw was a fraud but they forgot to inform the judge of proof of fraud/fakery/deception. to get the judge informed enough to dismiss it
now they have to inform him at trial

[o_e_l_e_o]

I'd say the coins are arguably not yours to begin with, is the seizure action not written into the BSV codebase in the same way that the absolute custody of BTC is written into Bitcoin?

I suppose you are right. When CSW and his buddies can arbitrarily move any coins, then at best on BSV you have an IOU from CSW. It's really not that different to a centralized exchange - CSW owns everything, you can only use "your" coins with his permission, and you can lose everything at a moment's notice and there is nothing you can do about it.

CSw lost to a school teacher becasue hodlnauts side asked some good questions and informed the judge better about the whole situation

And because of a huge community campaign which raised $1.5 million to fund Hodlonaut's legal team: https://opensats.org/projects/opensats_legal_defense