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I think I shall continue the tradition (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310438.0) to post "top" posters with 0 merit :)

Today I present you another Newbie registered in 2019:


Name:    Shahinbd
Posts:    5767 in 1116 topics

Link to the profile:
https://bpip.org/Profile?p=Shahinbd
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2665560

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Edit: Turned out he is also plagiarist :

Although the user didn't contribute anything to the forum, but I quite respect he haven't cheat any campaign until now... or he's smart enough to leave his trace? But someone might found his alt accounts because you've give a spotlight to this user :P

I don't really understand why he need to use multiple telegram accounts because he's not always using a same telegram account to apply bounty campaigns.

Chances are that he only hasn't been caught yet as it doesn't make sense at all to join bounty campaign with 1 account only since everyone else is cheating.


He is probably doing that so he can join more Telegram campaigns, as they usually ask from you to update your name with the project's name, like in the case of the latest bounty campaign he joined.  

Dude's username should be ShitImBad.  Maybe Theymos could grant him an honorary name change, because it's an astounding non-accomplishment to be here 3+ years and still be pegged at Newbie rank and absolutely no recognition from whoever his peer group is.  I'd clap my hands if they weren't otherwise occupied.

I would suggest that there's a very low standard for respect going on there.  There are plenty of members who haven't cheated bounties or campaigns, but not only don't I respect them for that, if a list of those members were produced right here in this thread I bet I wouldn't even recognize most of them.

But hey, if we were all the same and agreed on everything this forum would be as boring as the trollbox on Yobit.

Out of curiosity I checked him out a bit and of course he is cheating bounty campaign as there's no sense to do those unless you are cheating as everyone else. And if you check those two accounts post history you will see that he is not even particularly smart when it comes to cheating and for sure that's not his only alt account.




https://i.postimg.cc/7Z7zM56m/Screenshot-2023-02-16-at-12-02-40-Binance-Transaction-Hash-Txhash-Details-Bsc-Scan.png

https://bscscan.com/tx/0xeaa1a0c0ed02494b8e60cbfae250fbf07aea646b9fad737d64b0b0f2dda74f2d

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@TheBeardedBaby  you didn't do him a favor by creating this topic.  :D

Haha, good catch buddy. Holy smoke, almost 6k posts and no merit, lol. That's what I call bounty spam dedication. I mean why do you keep on hunting these bounties for years? 99% of the bounties offered are garbage anyway. Does it really make sense to waste your time like that?

It would be quite interesting to know what profit he made during all this campaigns. His hourly must be like 0.0000001 BTC or less, lol.

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Haha, that didn't take long. It looks like another great Bitcointalk bounty hunter career will now come to an abrupt end. Someone want to take bets, if he realizes that there is a thread about him?  :D

To be going at it for so long, there must be beneficial enough strategy that is keeping he/she going. I am curious as well!


I will take the bet that they won't notice or post in this thread if that market is open :o It seems that they are only using this forum as a means of profit from bounties. There is no interest in any other part, so I doubt that he will even move from that board. I am sure they use all of their time on the bounties too without any to actually browse outside that place. Seems like a pretty safe bet to me  8)

Hah, there's no way that he stop his bounty hunter career just because 2 of his accounts will end up tagged. God knows how many accounts he has and already and its not like that he can't join campaign with a brand new account.


Maybe only if someone tags his account and uses my post as reference, and then we gonna hear the same old story how its his brother/mother/aunt account etc.

You're probably right. I myself spend almost no time in the international altcoin/bounty forum section and I'm probably way too naive when it comes to these users. Each bounty spammer probably has 10 different accounts in the same campaign.

I guess the accounts that are finally caught by you guys are probably just the tip of the iceberg.


Haha, yea the classic story that in the end it was the fault of a family member, a friend or the dog that ran over the keyboard.  :D

This kind of account does not have a contribution to the forum's discussions there are thousands of new discussions in a month I'm sure there are discussions that will suit his interest, it's ok to be a bounty hunter as long at least 1/4 of your posts in a week are on participating in discussions.
Bounty managers should lay out a rule that they only hire Junior account or participate in discussion at least twice a week, there's too many cheaters in the bounty section and they disregard forum rules.

I might as well add Alt @Shahinbd, another one with over 2000 posts named @Prima is cool.
For example:

1. Prima cool (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2860576)

Proof:

Posts: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5348309.msg57612692#msg57612692
https://archive.vn/wip/PscGy

https://archive.vn/wip/wv3dl

some bounty managers only use certain activity count rules. no minimum rank. it's just to limit the new accounts.
whereas accounts like that, I've seen it many times. new account spamming POA posts in bounty threads that have been inactive for a long time. they make dozens of posts in a matter of days. just to catch up on the activity.

account behavior like that raises suspicion. they are on forums to earn bounties. with just 1 account, I'm not sure they'll get the results they deserve. and it makes their greed grow by participating in their account farm.

I don't mean to make fun of any user, but it seems the user mentioned is really focused on his hunt for altcoins where 99% of his activity is only in the bounty section. It might make sense to get users who really don't care about anything other than just bounties and altcoin, and that should be they goal of being in the forum. So of course it's true, it's not surprise but it's proof that there has always been a different interest among users of these bitcointalk forum.

https://i.imgur.com/AAXfTUI.jpg

Funny character. Where did you dig it up? :)
He has 1092 activities, which means he is almost Legendary. :) Except for the nuance in the absence of merits.
His posts in 5767 pieces seem to me something incredible compared to my posts, which are 2 times less.
And another funny fact is that he doesn't have a single topic created and judging by his history, this user only participates in bounty campaigns, without communication on the forum as such. Probably just for this he was created.

Almost 4 years here in the forum and still a newbie even though his/her activity is 1k up which means if this user-contributed well in the forum then he must have a senior, hero, or Legendary rank  instead of a newbie but as we can see his post history almost all his/her post came from bounties and Altcoins and that mean he is a altcoin hunters are aiming foe token. Instead of learning here in our community .

I used to think that his posts are of low quality, but it is more like a bot that fills out applications, and therefore it is not surprising that he does not get a single merit because what he does is far from the discussions.

Even banning such accounts is meaningless unless some restrictions placed  such as 1 to 10 merits.

https://i.imgur.com/eDAWry7.jpg

He/She gets my vote for Newbie of the Year...

Over 8,000 combined posts w/o a merit. Also gonna give BADecker a run for his money for the Most Useless Poster award.

Total post is almost 2x of mine post. who will give merit to this users , All of whose posts related to bounty.  1% posts other than proof of authentication and weekly report. His main goal is to join bounties , For this reason, he did not participated even single discussion in the forum except bounties.


Actually Projects need shilling on social media posts and this why they happy woth number of retweet and like. if these are limited to junior member rank So we hardly get to see even hundred members. I think it would be beneficial to have Junior member restriction for articles and videos.

To be realistic, since that person stuck to this much time around here it is likely he/she managed to make some actual profit from their bounty hunting participation, of course, their use of alt accounts to potentially cheat those bounties only further proves it.

Still it is remarkable they did not even bother to get a single merit, considering bounties also have options those those with high rank to participate and earn tokens easier...

There is a topic in the Russian-speaking section, where there are about a dozen newbies with activity Legendary and with more than 2000 posts. It is noteworthy that absolutely all posts of these newcomers are in one single topic. That is, if you delete this topic, they all become Brand New.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1661044.new#new

Exactly my thinking. It's worth noting that he created his account in 2019, which was well after the peak of ICOs and shitcoin bounty campaigns. It's possible that he hasn't yet been caught cheating, probably because this may not be his first account and he has likely learned to be careful (perhaps from his own past mistakes). In cases like this, I typically examine their posting patterns. As we can see, he usually spend around half an hour to an hour on the forum each day. Therefore, it's reasonable to assume that he could easily manage dozens of such accounts simultaneously.

In my view, this is the only explanation that could justify the amount of time they are investing in this activity. It is essentially unprofitable to engage in these campaigns with just one account, given the current payout rates and the low probability of any individual campaign generating a significant profit.

EDIT:
After a second look, the user has already been caught for having multiple alt accounts back in 2021, and is probably part of a larger account farm.
Accounts Connected: Lexsas, Shahinbd, Prima cool, Sunlite1212 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg58228136#msg58228136)

He has been caught cheating, here is the proof (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5440036.msg61771060#msg61771060), its just that no one bothered to tag him as of yet. And he wasn't particularly careful either as it took me like few minutes to find a solid connection with another account.

LOL, what's this? Are these accounts providing any post value? And what are they talking about? I don't understand Russian, but it looks like they are giving trading calls? Or is this advertising for a certain service?

As long as they just post in a single thread, I don't think they do much harm to the forum. However, it still looks quite strange.

Would love to hear the story behind this.

I do kind of wish there was some sort of requirement to post in the bounty section. I'm not normally one for too many restrictions, and I know theymos has shown his disdain for newbie jail in the past, which in the most part I would agree. However, the bounty section is absolutely crazy. I'd like to see something like earn x amount of merit in y period, and you can post there.

Otherwise, you get a ton of accounts registering, and only ever posting in bounties. Therefore, not really contributing much at all. However, this would be at a cost, since the forum would undoubtedly lose users, but I'm not sure that would be entirely a bad thing. The thing about having a one time entry requirement is that users can just meet the one merit requirement or whatever, and then never contribute to any discussion ever again, where as if you have a constant target you'd get a little more genuine discussion from them. I'd like to see the bounty section as a privilege rather than something that's abused. Since, most of these users don't adhere to the rules, and it's quite a lot of cleaning up to do.

I've been trying to clean up the announcement sections, and while I've actually made a visual dent recently, the bounties section is a whole different ball game.

 :)

This is a HYIP projects aggregator topic. Users who participate in HYIP projects from this aggregator post reports about remunerations received in this or that HYIP project. Thereby they confirm solvency of this or that HYIP project. Such posts have no special value for a forum, but also do not break the rules of this section.

I guess thousands of posts for ten cents a posts adds up... over 4 years... holy moly an even less profitable venture than bounty hunting.

He does not need a merit because what he is doing (bounty hunting), he can continue doing without the need for merit. He registered in August 2019 and after almost 3.5 years, his only mission is to earn bounty tokens. I am sure he must be earning something from these bounty tokens else no one would have been so consistent without any benefit.



Yes, mostly there are garbage token but if you are able to work in all bounties some might pay a bit more and collectively, he may be earning something which he thinks is good enough for him.
Also, we do not know what sort of person he is, what skills he has and why he has chosen bounty hunting as a full-time work.

You misunderstood, these users are not rewarded for their posts in this thread. They post reports about received remunerations in HYIP projects, in which they participate. Also rewards from Profit-Hunters BIZ project for participation in various quizzes, referral rewards and rewards received in various bounties. Thus, they confirm that these projects are not some kind of scams, but normally working projects where you can earn money.

In that case you might as well close bounty child board as there would be no one left to do them.

By far the most elegant solution would be if bounty managers required bounty hunters to be at least Jr Member/Member to join, but since that is not in their interest of course they won't do it. Its all about the numbers and there's no other way to get those without army of newbie alts.


All I see there are bunch of newbie accounts sharing "proof" that those scammy sites are paying out. No constructive discussions there of any sort, just newbie accounts spam and I see no reason why that shouldn't be deleted since it adds no value at all. Or maybe I don't fully understand how that exactly works and what the hell are they doing there.  

And if it weren't for the merit system, this user would now be a legendary member. As much as some users may whine about ranking up, this user is the absolute example of why it's necessary. Although it's not surprising since he's only posting in bounty campaigns by spamming every bounty available, Unfortunately, managers have minimum or even no requirements for bounty hunters. Fortunately, this member will never join a signature campaign; thus, his posts are only limited to the altcoin bounty section and at least are not spamming throughout the entire forum.

Pretty obvious its a requirement that they post their "earnings" in the thread or they wouldn't waste the time. So its part of the job, like a bounty hunter except with lower pay.

If they need merit for being able to post in bounty section, they have to make post in other boards and we will probably see more spam in the forum. It's also possible we will see more abuse of the merit system. I don't like encouraging them to post outside bounty section.

That's why this is damaging for the whole crypto space. That's why there are so many scam projects out there. Because this is a generator of fake popularity and lure newbies into loosing money. Big part of those newbies won't come back to crypto in years, maybe never.

It's damaging and it has to stop somehow.

Also there are newbies joining the forum to spam because they have no idea that all those projects are just trash. They just follow the stream ...

We had discussions some years ago about that there should be requirements/special rank for the bounty managers. This is the only way to control the quality of those bounties, you won't get rid of the alt's nor the scam, but they will be widely reduced.

So these are spammers or they are not able to get merits because they have less information about crypto in general ?

I met two more interesting accounts with a huge passion for bounties.
One was registered in 2018, and for all the time he did not write a word in other sections, respectively, without receiving a single merit.
The second account was registered in 2020 but already surpassed the first account in terms of the number of posts. One can imagine if he does not stop "activity" how many posts he will have in a few years.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2260134
https://i.ibb.co/MGMwF5s/Screenshot-1.png (https://ibb.co/SdRYF7P)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2828470
https://i.ibb.co/wzkJjpc/Screenshot.png (https://ibb.co/BCp4FTn)

Even the altcoin bounty section should also have similar requirements like the signature campaigns paying in BTC. If we moderate spam in one section and let it continue in other sections of the forum, it is a not a good sign for the forum. However, I feel, that such measures will eventually be introduced by moderators and campaign mangers in alt coin section also in very nearby future. We already have the input in terms of efficacy of the merit system in handling bitcoin signature campaigns effectively so as to keep the spammers out.

There was a time when a bounty manager added to his campaign requirements that before you'll be accepted into his campaign you must have at least one merit and that resulted in so many hunters spamming the forum while some engaged in posting plagarised content all in the hope that they're going to receive some merits. I did report some to be banned while others to be deleted by mods.

Seems like the guy been caught with plagiarism. I cannot confirm that as I don't speak their language but hey, someone archived his post which is now gone.


If anyone want to dig in further deep into the case, feel free :)

I never bothered to check his trust feedback, as it shows 0 trusted feedback, but that's another lesson learned, to double check even if there's showing 0 feedback.

The bounty hunters I noticed are like a strong force of spammers in the forum who prefer to enjoy their board while making some funds too. The merit system pushed them away from the other forum boards, where spam is not needed, if they get such a demand on their side it'll drive them away from the forum or attract some hunters to mess up the serenity of the forum, either manually or with bots. So, with such activities and posts counts of the above user, I don't think the merit system single handily led to the departure of some bounty hunters in the past, as these people have nothing to bother about merits since their line of work in the forum doesn't demand it, unless they want to switch and join signature campaign.

Wow this is really shocking to me, I think for the short Time I have been here it has never come to my notice of such profile ever been possible to achieve, what an achievement  ;D it's really something you don't see everyday. I have never actually gone through the bounty board that much but since my stay here, I have always sense some kind of dislike from forum members towards the bounty board profiles and I today I think I have seen some of the reasons for the neglect, I mean c'mon they work with no requirements in their board and see every board as less interesting and never actually contribute or try to learn or develop themselves here during their stay, I mean they is more one can achieve here other than chasing bounty. I think the only concern is how to earn through the bounty campaign.

I'm still kinda new here and wondering, how would he be able to cheat? Sorry, not familiar with bounty campaigns.

If someone could enlighten me :) .

if you are not familiar with bounty campaigns, it's good for you. those who are more on the bounty campaign, I saw that the account was made from the beginning only containing POA and bounty reports. they have made thousands of posts there without a single post on other boards.
accounts that are said to be cheating, if they have multiple alt accounts in their account farms registered to the same campaign. almost all accounts that run social media campaigns are dishonest.

Read this thread and see this user has made thousands of posts, and he probably never tried to do anything creative so he didn't earn a single merit. It is normal for such users to have multiple accounts because they use multiple accounts to join bounty and cheat. Their job is to earn by spamming this forum. Their account activity shows how much shit they do.