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February 17, 2023, 09:31:01 AM
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Although the user didn't contribute anything to the forum, but I quite respect he haven't cheat any campaign until now... or he's smart enough to leave his trace?
Chances are that he only hasn't been caught yet as it doesn't make sense at all to join bounty campaign with 1 account only since everyone else is cheating.

Exactly my thinking. It's worth noting that he created his account in 2019, which was well after the peak of ICOs and shitcoin bounty campaigns. It's possible that he hasn't yet been caught cheating, probably because this may not be his first account and he has likely learned to be careful (perhaps from his own past mistakes). In cases like this, I typically examine their posting patterns. As we can see, he usually spend around half an hour to an hour on the forum each day. Therefore, it's reasonable to assume that he could easily manage dozens of such accounts simultaneously.

In my view, this is the only explanation that could justify the amount of time they are investing in this activity. It is essentially unprofitable to engage in these campaigns with just one account, given the current payout rates and the low probability of any individual campaign generating a significant profit.

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After a second look, the user has already been caught for having multiple alt accounts back in 2021, and is probably part of a larger account farm.
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February 17, 2023, 09:35:56 AM
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It's possible that he hasn't yet been caught cheating, probably because this may not be his first account and he has likely learned to be careful (perhaps from his own past mistakes).
He has been caught cheating, here is the proof, its just that no one bothered to tag him as of yet. And he wasn't particularly careful either as it took me like few minutes to find a solid connection with another account.

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There is a topic in the Russian-speaking section, where there are about a dozen newbies with activity Legendary and with more than 2000 posts. It is noteworthy that absolutely all posts of these newcomers are in one single topic. That is, if you delete this topic, they all become Brand New.

LOL, what's this? Are these accounts providing any post value? And what are they talking about? I don't understand Russian, but it looks like they are giving trading calls? Or is this advertising for a certain service?

As long as they just post in a single thread, I don't think they do much harm to the forum. However, it still looks quite strange.

Would love to hear the story behind this.

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February 17, 2023, 02:48:26 PM
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I do kind of wish there was some sort of requirement to post in the bounty section. I'm not normally one for too many restrictions, and I know theymos has shown his disdain for newbie jail in the past, which in the most part I would agree. However, the bounty section is absolutely crazy. I'd like to see something like earn x amount of merit in y period, and you can post there.

Otherwise, you get a ton of accounts registering, and only ever posting in bounties. Therefore, not really contributing much at all. However, this would be at a cost, since the forum would undoubtedly lose users, but I'm not sure that would be entirely a bad thing. The thing about having a one time entry requirement is that users can just meet the one merit requirement or whatever, and then never contribute to any discussion ever again, where as if you have a constant target you'd get a little more genuine discussion from them. I'd like to see the bounty section as a privilege rather than something that's abused. Since, most of these users don't adhere to the rules, and it's quite a lot of cleaning up to do.

I've been trying to clean up the announcement sections, and while I've actually made a visual dent recently, the bounties section is a whole different ball game.

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February 17, 2023, 04:57:31 PM
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There is a topic in the Russian-speaking section, where there are about a dozen newbies with activity Legendary and with more than 2000 posts. It is noteworthy that absolutely all posts of these newcomers are in one single topic. That is, if you delete this topic, they all become Brand New.

LOL, what's this? Are these accounts providing any post value? And what are they talking about? I don't understand Russian, but it looks like they are giving trading calls? Or is this advertising for a certain service?

As long as they just post in a single thread, I don't think they do much harm to the forum. However, it still looks quite strange.

Would love to hear the story behind this.

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I guess thousands of posts for ten cents a posts adds up... over 4 years... holy moly an even less profitable venture than bounty hunting.

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February 18, 2023, 06:30:40 AM
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Every time someone make thread like this, i expect someone will decide to merit that user for entertainment purpose. And IMO there should be single dedicated thread for this kind of topic.

Anyway based on https://ninjastic.space/user/Shahinbd, he only make 16 posts outside "Bounties (Altcoins)" board which isn't surprising.

He does not need a merit because what he is doing (bounty hunting), he can continue doing without the need for merit. He registered in August 2019 and after almost 3.5 years, his only mission is to earn bounty tokens. I am sure he must be earning something from these bounty tokens else no one would have been so consistent without any benefit.


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Haha, good catch buddy. Holy smoke, almost 6k posts and no merit, lol. That's what I call bounty spam dedication. I mean why do you keep on hunting these bounties for years? 99% of the bounties offered are garbage anyway. Does it really make sense to waste your time like that?

It would be quite interesting to know what profit he made during all this campaigns. His hourly must be like 0.0000001 BTC or less, lol.


Yes, mostly there are garbage token but if you are able to work in all bounties some might pay a bit more and collectively, he may be earning something which he thinks is good enough for him.
Also, we do not know what sort of person he is, what skills he has and why he has chosen bounty hunting as a full-time work.

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February 18, 2023, 01:00:44 PM
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I guess thousands of posts for ten cents a posts adds up... over 4 years... holy moly an even less profitable venture than bounty hunting.

You misunderstood, these users are not rewarded for their posts in this thread. They post reports about received remunerations in HYIP projects, in which they participate. Also rewards from Profit-Hunters BIZ project for participation in various quizzes, referral rewards and rewards received in various bounties. Thus, they confirm that these projects are not some kind of scams, but normally working projects where you can earn money.

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I'd like to see something like earn x amount of merit in y period, and you can post there.
In that case you might as well close bounty child board as there would be no one left to do them.

By far the most elegant solution would be if bounty managers required bounty hunters to be at least Jr Member/Member to join, but since that is not in their interest of course they won't do it. Its all about the numbers and there's no other way to get those without army of newbie alts.


You misunderstood, these users are not rewarded for their posts in this thread. They post reports about received remunerations in HYIP projects, in which they participate. Also rewards from Profit-Hunters BIZ project for participation in various quizzes, referral rewards and rewards received in various bounties. Thus, they confirm that these projects are not some kind of scams, but normally working projects where you can earn money.
All I see there are bunch of newbie accounts sharing "proof" that those scammy sites are paying out. No constructive discussions there of any sort, just newbie accounts spam and I see no reason why that shouldn't be deleted since it adds no value at all. Or maybe I don't fully understand how that exactly works and what the hell are they doing there.  

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And if it weren't for the merit system, this user would now be a legendary member. As much as some users may whine about ranking up, this user is the absolute example of why it's necessary. Although it's not surprising since he's only posting in bounty campaigns by spamming every bounty available, Unfortunately, managers have minimum or even no requirements for bounty hunters. Fortunately, this member will never join a signature campaign; thus, his posts are only limited to the altcoin bounty section and at least are not spamming throughout the entire forum.

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You misunderstood, these users are not rewarded for their posts in this thread. They post reports about received remunerations in HYIP projects, in which they participate. Also rewards from Profit-Hunters BIZ project for participation in various quizzes, referral rewards and rewards received in various bounties. Thus, they confirm that these projects are not some kind of scams, but normally working projects where you can earn money.

Pretty obvious its a requirement that they post their "earnings" in the thread or they wouldn't waste the time. So its part of the job, like a bounty hunter except with lower pay.

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I'd like to see something like earn x amount of merit in y period, and you can post there.
If they need merit for being able to post in bounty section, they have to make post in other boards and we will probably see more spam in the forum. It's also possible we will see more abuse of the merit system. I don't like encouraging them to post outside bounty section.

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I'd like to see something like earn x amount of merit in y period, and you can post there.
In that case you might as well close bounty child board as there would be no one left to do them.

By far the most elegant solution would be if bounty managers required bounty hunters to be at least Jr Member/Member to join, but since that is not in their interest of course they won't do it. Its all about the numbers and there's no other way to get those without army of newbie alts.
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That's why this is damaging for the whole crypto space. That's why there are so many scam projects out there. Because this is a generator of fake popularity and lure newbies into loosing money. Big part of those newbies won't come back to crypto in years, maybe never.

It's damaging and it has to stop somehow.

Also there are newbies joining the forum to spam because they have no idea that all those projects are just trash. They just follow the stream ...

We had discussions some years ago about that there should be requirements/special rank for the bounty managers. This is the only way to control the quality of those bounties, you won't get rid of the alt's nor the scam, but they will be widely reduced.

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February 20, 2023, 09:27:56 AM
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There is a topic in the Russian-speaking section, where there are about a dozen newbies with activity Legendary and with more than 2000 posts. It is noteworthy that absolutely all posts of these newcomers are in one single topic. That is, if you delete this topic, they all become Brand New.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1661044.new#new

So these are spammers or they are not able to get merits because they have less information about crypto in general ?
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February 26, 2023, 12:31:21 PM
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I met two more interesting accounts with a huge passion for bounties.
One was registered in 2018, and for all the time he did not write a word in other sections, respectively, without receiving a single merit.
The second account was registered in 2020 but already surpassed the first account in terms of the number of posts. One can imagine if he does not stop "activity" how many posts he will have in a few years.

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February 26, 2023, 12:45:08 PM
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Fortunately, this member will never join a signature campaign; thus, his posts are only limited to the altcoin bounty section and at least are not spamming throughout the entire forum.

Even the altcoin bounty section should also have similar requirements like the signature campaigns paying in BTC. If we moderate spam in one section and let it continue in other sections of the forum, it is a not a good sign for the forum. However, I feel, that such measures will eventually be introduced by moderators and campaign mangers in alt coin section also in very nearby future. We already have the input in terms of efficacy of the merit system in handling bitcoin signature campaigns effectively so as to keep the spammers out.
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February 26, 2023, 12:56:03 PM
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Fortunately, this member will never join a signature campaign; thus, his posts are only limited to the altcoin bounty section and at least are not spamming throughout the entire forum.

Even the altcoin bounty section should also have similar requirements like the signature campaigns paying in BTC. If we moderate spam in one section and let it continue in other sections of the forum, it is a not a good sign for the forum. However, I feel, that such measures will eventually be introduced by moderators and campaign mangers in alt coin section also in very nearby future. We already have the input in terms of efficacy of the merit system in handling bitcoin signature campaigns effectively so as to keep the spammers out.

There was a time when a bounty manager added to his campaign requirements that before you'll be accepted into his campaign you must have at least one merit and that resulted in so many hunters spamming the forum while some engaged in posting plagarised content all in the hope that they're going to receive some merits. I did report some to be banned while others to be deleted by mods.

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February 27, 2023, 12:10:17 PM
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Seems like the guy been caught with plagiarism. I cannot confirm that as I don't speak their language but hey, someone archived his post which is now gone.

invincible49    2021-01-15    Reference    Blatant plagiarism! See this article: https://archive.is/wip/DoWQX

If anyone want to dig in further deep into the case, feel free Smiley

I never bothered to check his trust feedback, as it shows 0 trusted feedback, but that's another lesson learned, to double check even if there's showing 0 feedback.

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February 27, 2023, 09:31:30 PM
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I'd like to see something like earn x amount of merit in y period, and you can post there.
If they need merit for being able to post in bounty section, they have to make post in other boards and we will probably see more spam in the forum. It's also possible we will see more abuse of the merit system. I don't like encouraging them to post outside bounty section.

The bounty hunters I noticed are like a strong force of spammers in the forum who prefer to enjoy their board while making some funds too. The merit system pushed them away from the other forum boards, where spam is not needed, if they get such a demand on their side it'll drive them away from the forum or attract some hunters to mess up the serenity of the forum, either manually or with bots. So, with such activities and posts counts of the above user, I don't think the merit system single handily led to the departure of some bounty hunters in the past, as these people have nothing to bother about merits since their line of work in the forum doesn't demand it, unless they want to switch and join signature campaign.

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February 27, 2023, 09:46:30 PM
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I think I shall continue the tradition to post "top" posters with 0 merit Smiley

Today I present you another Newbie registered in 2019:


Name:    Shahinbd
Posts:    5767 in 1116 topics

Link to the profile:
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2665560
Wow this is really shocking to me, I think for the short Time I have been here it has never come to my notice of such profile ever been possible to achieve, what an achievement  Grin it's really something you don't see everyday. I have never actually gone through the bounty board that much but since my stay here, I have always sense some kind of dislike from forum members towards the bounty board profiles and I today I think I have seen some of the reasons for the neglect, I mean c'mon they work with no requirements in their board and see every board as less interesting and never actually contribute or try to learn or develop themselves here during their stay, I mean they is more one can achieve here other than chasing bounty. I think the only concern is how to earn through the bounty campaign.

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