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Hi All,

We recently launched our new Bitcoin/Lightning LIVE Roulette Site - www.NakamotoRoulette.com

Would appreciate feedback and comments or anything else the community has to say :)

-- Nakamoto Roulette

Edit: some common questions popping up I think should be included up top;

- We accept normal Bitcoin as well as instant Lightning Deposits
- all transactions are in SATS (Satoshis)
- We offer INSTANT humanless Withdrawals (no questions asked).
- We do not have any KYC nor will we, EVER.
- We will not get a gaming license for a host of reasons including KYC and other limitations.
- We are as anonymous as possible, private and confidential and share no data to anyone. ever.
- All players automatically get a 'share code / affiliate link' which they can gain back 50% of GGR (revenue) month-to-month for any players they invite or attract.

some immediate features being implemented are;
- Many many more games (and not just Roulette).

Welcome to the forum, I suggest to get a copper membership so you can post picture here.

Anyway, post the highlights of this site like what coins do you accept, is this a KYC free site and a licensed site?

Can you tell us more about this site? Upon checking the site its looks like other games are being offered as well.

To add more information;

I have been developing 'live casino games' for online casinos since the late 1990's - being one of the founders of Dublinbet.com (since sold) and many other successful Online Casinos.

I also launched and operated a Bitcoin Casino called "AllCoinCasino.com" for a number of years in the very early days of Crypto (2012 onwards).

This is the latest site and product launch and I am hoping, with enough suggestions and time, to really make something better than all the sites I've done in the past.

Why are you giving a website link here in the forum that is not safe to open that can harm computer or laptop?

Even if you say that the design of your website is beautiful if that's how it opens on a computer that has protection or a protector to prevent unexpected things from entering. What about the other computer that will open this website of yours that does not have protection against such things?

https://i.ibb.co/tCB4jzF/phishing.png (https://ibb.co/w6yRG7j)

I'm surprised to know that you have that years of experience and yet your terms are incomplete
https://www.nakamotoroulette.com/?nav=terms there's no information about KYC and about your terms about violations of gamblers and the penalty that you are going to impose things that I normally read in other casinos are not found here, players may face issues in the future because of lack of complete terms on how your casino operate.

Cheers, yeah I'll look into that. I used to have an account here from a previous online casino (AllCoinCasino) back in 2012 but it seems to have since gotten deleted as it was unused for many years.

NAKAMOTO ROULETTE currently accepts traditional Bitcoin and instant Lightning payments.

We operate a strictly no questions asked policy (zero KYC) and share no data with any governing body or anybody else.

As we want to keep it this way, we have no intention of gaining a license, as this only imposes restrictions on players, regions and activities.

We plan to release many more games on the platform over this coming year.

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That is the first thing in the T&C;

1.1 GENERAL
We offer ABSOLUTE Privacy - to participate in Nakamoto Roulette we have absolutely no requirements. No documents, no proof of any kind, no identification requested, ever. We do not even require you give us your real name.

So no KYC whatsoever.

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You are right to make this thread formal in looking OP must buy a copper membership to post an Image even if in his Rank which is a newbie
If this is a no KYC site then for sure they don't have a license because once they have a license for sure they will ask kYC and also it will bring the customer more restriction. But hopefully they will not ask KYC which is pretty good to deal with them to secure our privacy .

There are some errors in the console log that you should fix... Some images and the Favicon are not found, not sure if it's a problem with the folder permissions or if the files aren't there:



The main site doesn't load for me, I had to open the site from https://www.nakamotoroulette.com/?nav=terms and if I move to https://www.nakamotoroulette.com/?nav=games the load image stays there and never loads the page.

And the last problem was another console log information... For me that looks like a cookie, but since it has a use and a password maybe it's sensitive information that shouldn't be there:


I will try again later, for now it was impossible for me to play the game.

I thought it's something fancy but it seems like regular casino roulette from providers. That Bikini roulette, Portomaso live, Oracle 360 are just some fancy name? I mean what are the difference from regular ones?

Anyway, nice site design. It's obvious you are focusing on roulette only so some days you are focusing on becoming an specialist.

Welcome to the forum.

As suggested by the 2nd post, consider buying a copper membership which will allow you to post image. Have a nice graphical design for the main post and repost it. You will see more people are finding it interesting.

If you need any help then feel free to contact me. I do bitcointalk promotions, managing few casinos and mixers bitcointalk promotion currently. I can assist you to show you how exactly you should make your next move to get better attention from the forum.


Cheers,

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It worked for me though and it was fast loading experience.

So you have an account here so you know what to look for but you did not look at how other casino developers introduce their projects here I expect that you get a copper account first then hire a designer so you are ready to answer questions, there's lack of readiness on your part.


Checking your terms it's not included there so when will you include what you posted here on your terms, I recommend that you not post your past achievements if you cannot come out with a complete feature of your casino.

Sorry about my account status being a Newbie - I had an account over 10 years old on here with plenty of history, but it somehow is deleted (the forgot password feature doesn't even recover it) --  but I hadn't logged into it in a number of years so likely it got deleted.

Anyway, I am back and so the account status is what it is. Sure, I will upgrade if it lets me.

As for KYC - none, whatsoever. Definitely we will not be doing that.

We offer ABSOLUTE Privacy - to participate in Nakamoto Roulette we have absolutely no requirements. No documents, no proof of any kind, no identification requested, ever. We do not even require you give us your real name.

Do you develop game for others.
I have a game algorithm, can you make it so that people can easily play on website and app.  The web version needs to be mobile friendly and simple.

You are 100% correct - I put absolutely no research or thought into posting on here - I just figured before I start my marketing campaigns I might come look for some forums to post about it and get any early feedback.

So absolutely unprepared and as you point out, I did not check to see other launch posts firsts to see what the normal format is.

So you're just getting the most raw and real version of any statement there is :) that can be a good thing too, can't it ?

Based on what I see on this thread and how the developer answers he's not yet ready to launch his casino here, there's an issue with security I have a loading problem on your casino, but on the positive note, you do ask not and will not ask for KYC I don't know if you can keep up with that, and there's part of the community where they will avoid your casino because of the absence of a license.
I will not recommend anything anymore since it's already been suggested by other members, let's just see if you can follow all the recommendations.

You are running an online casino and you cant afford the fee of copper membership?? I think you should buy a copper membership asap and also post a good-looking announcement thread like others. You can see the sample announcement thread from this gambling board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0).

Yeh I haven't used bitcointalk in many years, there was no membership fee system last time I was here - I will get that of course and re-announce once I've incorporated everyones suggestions - and done a little research into other successful announcements to see how they are doing it (none of which I did this time).

Cheers and thanks!

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Great, understood - and thanks !

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I noticed you created this account today. So, I think you used your other account long ago. Though I have seen paid membership in 2018 when I created my account. I think this has been announced long before this. Anyway, you can buy a copper membership from this link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote).
Also, please do not create multiple posts on a single row if you do so your post will be deleted and you might get banned. You can quote as many person as you want on a single post or you have to wait before posting by another person.

Yep, I do provide games to 3rd parties. What were you looking for ? I tried to send you a message but it wouldn't let me - so hit me up if you want to discuss.

Does the live chat on the game directly seen by the dealer like Evolution gaming live games? This is the only proof that we can hold to guarantee that the video is live. The camera angle on the roulette is bad because it’s on top view while the screen board is in redundant with the actual table board.

I try to make the screen larger using the maximize window button it doesn’t work when I’m using mobile phone. The screen size is not adjustable when viewing the live games without sign. But I like the Vibes of your live games because is more natural. Are you planning to add other table games like blackjack or you will just stick to roulette games?

I thought it was something new that had something to do with Satoshi Nakamoto or something. It seems like it's not, though. I saw the games you provide, and it's something unique that I still need to play.

Based on your name, would you have guides with roulettes or like roulette academy or something and integrate some cryptocurrency knowledge or something? Lol.

The OP registered on the forum today and the first thing he posts is a casino ad. This is very suspicious. The OP has never written his thoughts on the forum and he has no activity. I am suspicious of such participants who register only to write advertisements.

Yes and there has been some feedback on this thread regarding the gambling platforms the OP has been promoting.
It seems that almost everyone is still unsure of the casino.
This kind of thing should be a lesson for OP if you want to do a promotion, it would be better to fix everything that is still needed by the gambling platform so that forum users who enter this thread can also really trust them.
Including the problem regarding the license, they must be able to get it first because the license is one of the main factors for gamblers to want to use the gambling platform.

The only thing like just creating an account and posting Casino advertisements alone could not be a suspicious activity, Sometime they keep them around, and when they want to post an advertisement they feel comfortable with the same name as the project. So besides creating an account, we should also focus on the project, it looks real or fishy or something else.

Btw I don't know how serious the project team is. I don't think it's a good idea to choose a project name like NAKAMOTO, Seem they are trying to get the advantage of the name NAKAMOTO, It's not looking good to me. If they are serious they should find something new and unique unless they are real NAKAMOTO :)

somehow this site works, which is certain when I try to open this site, there is a danger warning on the site.

if indeed you are serious about making your site better and have a lot of enthusiasts here, please fix it so that everything looks safe.
because if customers who want to register on your site there is a warning on your site, surely they will not be interested anymore and prefer to leave.
consider this.

I think it would be better if Op will purchase a copper membership first and created a formal ANN thread so people on this forum won't be suspicious about him. I also thought that his site has something to do with Satoshi. I'm not sure if it's their way to attract users or to catch gamblers' attention. I hope that Op would be mindful of advertising his site formally so he could gain the trust of people here.

why do his thoughts about the forum needed before posting an advertisement? if you look around on this board you'd see that there are representatives of well-known casinos here in the forum where their first post are the casino's ANN thread. I am not trying to defend the OP or anything, I am just saying he does not need to post his thought about the forum before posting an advertisement.

Welcome on board,

I believe you don't know that Ann's thread is like a shop for casinos and other crypto-related projects on this forum and it's advised to look marketable. Therefore, you'll need to buy a copper membership as already suggested by others and also plan for Bitcointalk promotion so you can build your casino from scratch to become the industry dominant since that is what a lot of casinos have done. If this is one of your plans it's something I can help to create a strategic promotion for the best result.
Any plan in adding more games?

You're welcome again to the number one crypto gambling ecosystem.

Why did you use the name Nakamoto in the name of your roulette? Is this not a cunning marketing ploy to attract potential customers? It's like speculating the name of bitcoin creator as the most famous person (sorry for the paradox) in the crypto community, instead of coming up with a different original name.

Do you want feedback? Ok. Get more.
In the first post of this topic, you could briefly talk about your roulette, the differences from other similar services, and what bonuses await gamblers or banal, voicing a possible reward. This is what I could buy into.

Welcome to the forum and its a good move that you seek to review and input from members of the forum and I will like to suggest you run a review campaign that way, participants will have funds to try out your platform properly.

I somehow don't get the idea behind these live streams on your website? Live streams from real casinos? Is it something similar to Evolution streams? How do you place a bet?

I can see in the domain whois the owner is located in Malta? Are you registered with Malta Gaming Authority?

Welcome and congratulations on your launch. You just got 3 participants currently active and there will be more to go if you'll continue being active in the forum and do some marketing through campaigns.
These live streams on your websites are from what actual casino? Do you have permission to broadcast them or are you partnered with them and that's why the live stream is also in Nakamoto roulette?

Welcome and get a copper member account to be able to post arts and other image material, between you are good to go just a quick run through your site and I can see that you did a very incredible job with the designs and game availability.

I just saw this


They have openly stated here in this thread that they will not ask for KYC I wonder how they are going to deal with cheaters, and multi-accounting without verifying information about the individual, and if ever one wins a huge amount will they not ask for information, I have seen some casino stating that they will not ask for KYC when they launched but change their policy later, will you not change this policy later.

How bizarre, I assumed this must be a certificate chain issue but every SSL Tester reports the certificates and the chain is absolutely fine : https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=nakamotoroulette.com

Why a couple of users here are getting an invalid certificate warning is very odd - it could be because i'm using 'Lets Encrypt' perhaps I should choose a costly certificate authority - but honestly LE has worked to the best of my knowledge for years on plenty of sites...

This is a strange one for sure.

Thanks for reporting it!

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Absolutely fair questions - but we are not new to operating online casinos, and we understand the issues with bonuses (which is why we would prefer to operate a straight up fair casino product than offer crazy bonuses and have to 'police multiple accounts' for bonus abuse etc) so if you want 2, 3 or a hundred accounts on nakamoto roulette, go for it! we won't stop you.

We will never request any KYC for any reason. Ever.

This site is not about that at all.


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The security certificate is working fine with me, ask them to delete the cache or their history, 'Let's Encrypt is good but if you want to get an SSL for business-related sites like gambling then go for it.

I checked your domain information and it shows you registered in 2016 the domain already exists for 6 years already, is this the script the one that your domain is using ever since I prefer to ask it instead of checking the web archive.


https://www.whois.com/whois/nakamotoroulette.com
Domain:nakamotoroulette.com
Registrar:PDR Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com
Registered On:2016-12-19
Expires On:2023-12-19
Updated On:2022-12-22
Status:clientTransferProhibited
Name Servers:ns1.whois.com
ns2.whois.com
ns3.whois.com
ns4.whois.com

Thank you for confirming the SSL is valid - it could be old windows installations apparently (i've read in another forum) have some vestigial expired root authorities that never got updated. So unfortunately I can't help with that except to change certificate roots myself I suppose. I will consider it if it is shown to be an issue with Lets Encrypt.

Yes I sat on this domain for some years before starting this project.

This site launched yesterday so no there was no site available until now - perhaps I had some test themes on there which may or may not show up on waybackmachine but it has not been live until right now.

Welcome to the forum
Site looks quite calm and nice, though nothing really spectacular in the design, but it is not bad as well, I haven't signed up yet so i cant comment anything related to that right now.
But all I can say for now is, like some other user have said or suggested, buy a copper membership, it doesn't cost much, I think its between $20 to $30 or even less, being a copper member will give you the ability to post images plus other benefits as well, with this, you can create a good Announcement thread for your casino, and also possibly launch a signature ad campaign on the forum to promote your newly launched casino, all this is if you are serious about having several users playing on your casino.

^Can you explain why you used the name of the founder of BTC?
Upon visiting your site I quickly head up into TOS and FAQ but I did not find FAQ, for me this is very important for those who seek answers to frequent questions. However, welcome to the forum, as you can see, there are tons of replies regarding suggestions and tips, you can apply in your gambling casino. Good luck.

Nahh, definitely there's a better way to introduce a gambling platfrom that to just create a plain thread having the link of it. Also, I tried opening the link to check bonuses but nothing simply appers in accordance to my intent, it was still the girl dancing in front of the roulette. Well, ofcourse I am expecting to read the bonuses simply because most if not all gambling sites do offer roulette, so how would this gambling site have their edge to persuade players to play on it? One of the best option is to set fair promotions and bonuses. Also, the site itself I guess ( if it wasn't only me), is quite laggy and freezes if you would stand by on it, which is also a room for improvement. Again, would be better to introduce it in a more interesting way to avoid players to think of it as one of the fraud platforms.

It's obvious though, the hype of the name Nakamoto. And we all know what they are trying to do here.

On the contrary, it might backfire on them if gamblers will just look at the domain name and notice it. Just like you and me, we are baffled that they used it to run a casino. In any case, good luck to them, it's a tough niche to begin win and I don't think that using Satoshi name for that matter will help them.

We chose that name for a number of reasons;
- It is of course the founder/inventor of Bitcoin, so we feel highly relevant to a Bitcoin site/service.
- That our ethos of anonymity and ubiquity are synonymous with the intention of Nakamoto's Bitcoin concept.
- That we feel the community will easily recognise the name and the intention, and understand that our services are private, confidential and anonymous and that we share no data with anyone. ever.
etc

Basically, we think it fits with our vision of what a bitcoin gambling site should be.

We will of course evolve the site with FAQ and so on - and that faq itself will be party built by what questions are asked here and now, which is great! Genuine questions with real answers :)

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Absolutely agree we need to plan a better launch and many of the comments here are pointing that out - and we are going to do this. In the meantime we continue testing and updates and improvements until we feel we are ready for a bigger 'splash'.

Some of the features we will include;
- instant payouts "no questions asked"
- every player is automatically an affiliate (given a 'share link/code' which gains then 50% of any GGR (revenue) month to month of players they share it with)
- more games
etc

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     -    I just noticed OP, why don't you create or post an ANN thread for this on your gambling website? I think it looks more presentable if you did it that way.

Then I also noticed that the games you have on your gambling platform are all live, there are no slots games, right? Because most of the gamblers here love it and I am one of them who loves slot games.

Welcome to the forum. First of all, I tried to register at your online casino, but to complete it, you need to confirm the email, but the received email does not contain a link to confirm just text, something is wrong with the generation and apparently the site requires significant improvement.

https://i.imgur.com/SrEUl1r.png

I did try your free roulette, live bikini dealer, Lol, I have won some, but still though it's free money so no money for me.

But I just wanted to see the speed and it seems to be decent, just minor lags but still manageable and I was able to see where the ball landed. Wish you that there is a button that I can push to double my bet. I mean an immediately button to where I can increased the bet quickly and not to go one by one to bet again, just saying.

Awesome, glad you gave it a go! - there is a feature to do as you wish just not very clear - the 'rebet' button does this - press it once, it repeats the bets of your last spin, press it again, it adds the same again, and again, and again (for each press). So you can quickly increase it that way.

That said there is a list of features we still want to add to the game client like 'favourite bets' and so on.

When you are logged in, you can load the games in V1 or V2 (v2 is what you were playing) from the games page - as V1 is actually easier on mobiles because of the betting layout size, but less features and smaller video window - it's all a compromise when it comes to mobile compatibility.

Does this means that most of the games in your platform are the ones you develop yourself?. Based on what I read in here is that you let people try your site using free money. Well, it's not a bad start for a gambling site that is newly launched. Anyway, welcome to the Bitcointalk forum. You can buy copper membership so that you can post images and make the announcement thread or Ann thread presentable or much better looking than this one.

Yes, all the games you find are our own - and many more coming online soon (also ours).

Yes, we will redo this launch thread properly as many have suggested - and I thank you for all suggestions!

it looks good as for a small author's project.And the fact that he is completely anonymous has both its pros and cons. I think it will take a lot of time for the project to gain the trust of new users so that they can make deposits for the game and are not afraid that they will disappear.One of the advantages is that the developer answers all the questions in this topic

You just need some minor touch on it and I suggest you to purchase a Copper Membership for you to be able to post some images that's from your website.

That will be easier for the visitors of this thread to assess if it's interesting by just looking at the design of those images. And it's interesting to know that you're the ones who are doing all of those games.

As you plan to add more, good luck with that.

that's a good start for them, if they will keep their presence here active. post their current activities, rewards or bonus programs. trust is built over the years, not by few days or months. the dilemma of most players is not getting a withdrawal after winning their game. so as much as possible, they need to take care of their clients especially with withdrawal aspect.

I was just wide-eyed when look "Lightning" word on your ann which I think your casino is used Lighting Network payment, and yes true, you have LN bitcoin for a deposit, and I tried to create 1 satoshi invoice, and allowed. This is a pretty good move when you allowed a minimum Because you know, not many people here have a lot of bitcoin to just play $1 or low. So, I still confusing also the minimum withdraw, if 1 satoshi allowed also, I think your site is very good move, but of course also detrimental if not many user come.

So what your strategy next?, are you have plan to marketing it here?.

Great - yes we have instant deposits AND withdrawals with Lightning -- the minimum withdrawal is 10 SATS and we would allow less but our provider api does not support under 10 SATS for payments. We will be looking into upgrading to run our own node for Lightning and solve this though, and operate it without limitation in the future.

The in-game bets allow down to 1 SAT bets, so that's not a problem either.

We have many plans - working on site updates, bug fixes and an affiliate system (we want ALL players to be given a 'share link/code' which when used, gives them a generous 50% GGR on any activity they bring, monthly) and many other features coming.

Do you really think that's a good idea though? Using the surname of Satoshi? I think they could go with something more search volume and hype such as Bitcoin itself or BTC or crypto etc. I think they would get more visitors and interested gamblers that way.

I checked the website and I'm actually really confused as to how the live betting works. I saw that there are real casinos and you have an interface on the live stream that you can use to place your bets and everything is shown there. I'm just confused as to how is that really going to work, and I'm eager to know that.

Still, I was not able to confirm the email and complete the registration, there is no way to resend the confirmation email, when I try to re-register, I get a message that such a user already exists, but does not log in to the account, you have received messages about a similar problem?

Oh, yes the verification process is incomplete - in reality, all registrations are currently verified once you submit a validated signup form. If you can not log in, you must have gotten the password wrong I guess. I can reset it for you if you wish, just email me at info@

I will bump up the Verification and Forgot Password features on the todo list.

Hello and Welcome here guys , the design seems eye capturing and Roulette is one of the most famous game for luck seeking gamblers so just continue being active and responsive .
and also have tried your free money for Bikini and with luck I won but of course nothing for me as I need to deposit and play real money  ;D
good luck and be active please.

LNURL so far is effective for payment without creating any invoice (just scan QR code)

if you are serious, better for you to plan to market your business as other casinos did.

I don't have a problem login so far.
I also don't complete the registration or received any confirmation email, even though I still can log in, and seems like we don't need that activation email, maybe the user still can deposit, and withdraw without it.

Hi, welcome to the forum. The site’s name is really great. Tributing the founder of Bitcoin is really a great idea. Only the name is appealing to me, rest of the OP is really boring. Before posting the ANN thread, OP haven’t you seen other Site’s announcement thread? I would suggest you to buy a Copper Membership and redesign the ANN thread with good graphics and proper information. In this manner more people will be attracted towards the site. Also glad to see that you guys don’t accept KYC, it will be surely a positive factor for the site. Will leave a detailed review soon after testing the game.

Op, maybe you can fix this website of your gambling platform, the word "Not secure" appears in my browser, it's not good to look at. Then I think it would be better if you fix it further to make it more attractive to the crypto crypto community.

     So that you don't get into trouble in the end, also follow what your other commentators say here because that is also for the beauty of your gambling platform.

I am quoting your original post for the sake of prosperity, because we had several casinos that started with those goals and they eventually bend the knee to the regulators and they were forced to implement KYC regulations.  ::)

You are giving out a lot of information about yourself, with the projects where you were involved with.. so it should be easy for the authorities to track you, if they follow those leads. (when they want to force you to regulate your casino)  ::)

Has anyone actually given this a try yet? The statistics page is still showing that there is absolutely no activity since its launch. Is this because things are developing or no one has tried it yet? I see that the community is helping out with bugs though, which is fantastic. I will watch this project as it feels like something different compared with everything else in the board, and I hope that you succeed. Good luck, nakaroulette!

have not tried it also mate because I am looking for community feedback before trying it because I have gone so many times in new sites that has no activities and then getting closed or not active after.

Welcome to the forum NAKAMOTO Roulette , maybe it is better to extend your games in time with not just roulette but slots and many games also.

Yes, thank you for the answer, I see that the button about the forgotten password appeared on the login panel, but when you click on it, nothing happens and as a result, a letter about password reset does not come to the mail, I hope you will finalize it.

I think you should contact the support regarding this, if they have a section on the website for this which they should. As OP said, they are working on the website and to fix the bugs and everything. So things should be smoother if they rollout an update to the website and back-end issues such as yours where there is no link to confirm the email.

It's impressive how small amounts of deposits and withdrawals are allowed by leveraging the Lightning Network, but as said earlier, they obviously have a lot of work to do yet to make their project a successful one.

Thank you and yes we certainly are planning to add many more games!

We are applying daily updates as it is right now, some suggestions and some new features.

We have already added instant (humanless) withdrawals -- so SATS in, SATS out, all instantly.

We are working right now on the affiliate system so that every registered player automatically gets a share link/code so that any activity they invite from players they gain a 50% GGR revenue share from monthly, which not only is a great reward but should help to expand the exposure quickly.

I have done my survey on the website but something seems fishy about your casino. At first, let me talk on the website itself, the website does not look convincing, it does not look real. The user interface is very poor, poor graphics, no live chat for customer care only message that would possibly take a whole day to reply compared to live chat, it is a kind of scanty no much information. No license, no kyc,
 " 1.1 GENERAL
We offer ABSOLUTE Privacy - to participate in Nakamoto Roulette we have absolutely no requirements. No documents, no proof of any kind, no identification requested, ever. We do not even require you give us your real name"
after they have stated this, i hope they will not start demanding for kyc if a member wins big on their casino? and lastly, are you working on accepting other coin or you solely accept bitcoin only?

Based on the names it's already looks scammy because a legit one wouldn't use a popular name like Nakamoto, in the last few years there's a dice site named satoshidice.io where it was legit since they paid their players and they've run a campaign, but it's turn become scam when the lucky player win big amount money Satoshidice.io / Cryptodice.io Scam. Not paid my winning. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269022.0)

Yeah there's no proof if it's scam, but for me I'd choose to stay away.

from the first look on the site, it is like a substandard casino as you've seen similar script before. it would really take time before they can get the approval from the community. for those who are in doubt, either don't play on their site or use very small fund to try out the site.
no one is oblige to deposit on their site, so it is up to you if you will play on this site or not. they are free to use any domain name as long as it is still free, so we can't say much about using the name of nakamoto here. this is their business strategy to attract some potential players.

This is a very nice idea of live casino. Broadcasting live casino that show actual players physically on the table while at the same time allowed online bets is very amazing to get the real gaming experience on playing in the physical casino. I like the camera zooming in on the roulette to show the result that only means that this broadcast is legit and designed for online bettor.

The only limitation that I can see on this kind of theme was games like Blackjack, Poker and other games that requires the decision of bettor will be not available on this kind of broadcast since you are just giving a feed of the actual game of the casino.

What I will actually advise is that any one trying to play on this casino should do that with caution as there are no actual trace about the casino. Play wisely with cash you can afford to loose so you do not get bothered if that turns out to be the result of the engagement. Merely looking at the site I was not moved to reconcile the fact that this is a casino. It is a kind of not being realistic and like one of the commenter above noted about the license, I also checked for it but no where to be found on the website. License gives bettors and gamblers confidence to patronize such casino because they would feel more comfortable and relaxed while playing or betting.

Why do you think there has to be a game provider? It could be a roulette game that's custom-made or in-house.

But, the way it looks to me, the design seems like a low-budget script that you can find on marketplaces like CodeCanyon. Definitely something to avoid.

May be the reason for choosing the name is to get traffic from the keyword Nakamoto. It's understandable and I do not see anything bad in it. If I find a nice name and think to use it in a way to make money, I can do that. Everyone one is free to do it. But since the name Nakamoto relates with the brand I would like to see something that will impress me and hook me. Not something already exists in the market and does not look even closer to the market standard. 

I think you are right. Possibly, they might want a faster traffic to their casino but they have forgotten that the steps they took are mostly done by scammers to mimick a good name for their products which I do not think people would buy the idea. Anyways it sometimes does not matter but just as you have said, what new thing are they adding to the already existing one which would give them edge over others, what solution do they have to settle any lapses and lastly what is the possible satisfaction to derive from their products which others do not have. These questions are what would keep them and not just joining the old to make yo the crowd.

Having a game provider can at least give you the assurance that you can trust the game about its fairness since it is being used by many sites as well. With this one, the site is quiet ok but seeing for the terms and conditions I think it is very plain and some concern are not specified their. Does anyone here already tried playing on this site? I’m quiet hesitant to try this because of so many concern here.

I think for this platform to be well-known and for people to patronize it it will be okay for you to run a signature campaign in bitcointalk forum so that it will be well known and people can equally because of the name in signature and patronize it so this is my own advice I don't know if you will take it as a good advice or you will take it as a bad advice but it is my point of view for you

Somehow it is true but it is too early for them to launch a signature campaign in this forum knowing that they are still in development and the essential features such as this is only to be implemented. It is not practical to advertise heavily now knowing that the possible gamblers might be disappointed with the current status and lack of features of this casino. I believe that they just posted their ANN here to gather some feedbacks and recommendation on the current status of their casino and not meant for heavy advertisement.

I haven't created a full account on this site, but it's good that you can test it like the roulette which I enjoyed. There are games that are really live in a casinos as I have bet together with someone on the floor, it's that I don't understand the language, lol, but I don't see that as a big problem.

I actually turn the free money to like x6 on the roulette last night. It was fun on my end, although it's free money, I still bet like it was just real money because that will be my strategy, the same when I decided to create an account and deposit. Let's see, what games I will want to try next.

How about a bit of a 'test bounty';

THE NEXT 10 PEOPLE WHO SIGN UP AND THEN EMAIL INFO@NAKAMOTOROULETTE.COM REQUESTING A "TEST BOUNTY" WILL RECEIVE 1000 SATS FOR FREE.

These SATS can be played and withdrawn at any time. No questions asked.

Is it not better you come up plain requesting for a honest review of your casino from members here than beating around the bush in the name of 1000 sats rewards for free. i will also advise you upgrade your casino by showing the license to your operation as well because i think that would be very much convenient by me and possibly other members curious about your nakamoto mimicked casino.

I thought only to remove the hindrance of needing to deposit to try it, someone could simply get 1000 sats to play and withdraw to give it a go without any risk of depositing. It was not to imply that 1000 sats is any amount to pay someone for a service, of course it is not.

Licensing: we do not plan to gain a gaming license for this site, as it presents much more of a hinderance than a help. I have been involved in a number of licensed online casinos and the restrictions are many! Including regional restrictions as well as KYC requirements - none of which we want applied to this site.

Also, in my real-world experience the cheap licenses such as Costa Rica (quite a common one) is meaningless to the players as they fully ignore player complaints or hold anyone accountable for anything - so it is a pointless exercise as it serve no purpose to the operator nor the player -- the ONLY reason these companies pay for a CR license is to gain a credit card payment gateway.

In fact most gaming license are for that reason: a credit card payment gateway.

I guess they will need to do a rebranding in case they wish to add more games like slots and card games, etc. since the name of the website says "roulette" which makes it specifically a roulette platform, though there is no harm if they add a couple of different games.

Also, I believe they are still working on improvements on their platform and website, so there aren't really a lot of players active on the casino, especially from this forum. Once they've fixed all the bugs and issues, then we might see some community feedback from players betting on live games they have on their website. I would love to try them as well once everything settles down.

Yes, I read a message from the OP about this, there was simply no "forgot password" button during registration, I just checked if this feature appeared, but it still doesn't work, so registering manually through support is not the best option.

Offering a test bounty to attract users to your platform is a good idea, but requiring people to send an email to request it seems unnecessary. Instead, you could create a promo code or special link that you can post here, which anyone can use to receive sats for testing. This would make it easier for potential users to access the bounty and start testing your platform.

To prevent abuse of the testing funds, I recommend disabling the withdrawal feature. This would ensure that the satoshies are only used for testing purposes and not withdrawn for personal gain.

Or he can choose to ask the user to send personal message to his account, so he can pick which users he want to give the 1000 Satoshis.

Lol it's really a big joke if there's an user want to abuse by withdrawing the 1000 Satoshi bonus, I think there's a minimum withdrawal, fees need to pay to the miners and they might additional fees for their profit. It doesn't worth for $1.

It really helped to log into the account only after contacting by email and receiving a temporary password, thank you for your help, but this needs to be fixed, I hope you will do it soon, although as you write in the letter that mail confirmation is not required and new users will not be affected.

Upd: By the way, a new problem has been discovered in the inability to change the password when you click on the password change button, the fields for entering it simply do not appear.

That's great and thank you for taking the time to have a go! -- the account management features are just undergoing a code change today and will be available again tomorrow. This applies for both forgotten passwords and password changes.

I think they mentioned somewhere here in this thread that they produce their own streams. And as they're claiming it's for anonymity purposes, it's impossible to verify.

I don't use my email much, I choose to be more towards telegram, sometimes many emails arrive that are very fake and that's why I don't like it, for a casino I support what they say about offering a ticket or sending a pm to Being able to request, also 1000sats is not much, it is what is necessary to be able to try a game. I like the privacy and everything that the OP is offering, it's something new and it seems real with everything we are looking for, and the name is cool, I hope they keep doing better things so that more players arrive.

Welcome nakaroulette.
The website's design is minimalist which makes it load faster and easier to navigate. The problem is that most gamblers prefer to have a more vivid design with some animations and such so they don't get bored quickly. The logo can be improved too, just my opinion, though.
When checking the deposit option, I noticed that lightning invoices expire after 10 minutes. I think it would be better to make it last a bit longer.

I do not expect there to be any animation on the website and as you can see for yourself, the website casino is a live one so i think there is no need for animation there but the only thing you can say that the casino is too scanty with information as they claim it is a full time decentralized casino that has no license of operation. Another thing i would correct your for is the "lightning invoices expire after 10 minutes" it is not so what i noticed about that is 5 minutes against what you have said. In all, the casino is a lively one.

and yet , they deny getting one as the thread is running for about a week not and spending few bucks had been denied by a casino  ;D maybe they need to at least let people understand that they are willing to spend for advertising and of course for paying winners.

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Welcome Nakamoto , like what said by others , extending your site will be a best action for many gamblers entering your site because a roulette itself wont lure many gamblers here as we prefer playing multiple games each gambling time.

Sorry - it is difficult (or impossible sometimes) to answer ALL questions as the rules here are so many - it really limits how many of these I can respond individually to - the does not imply any attempt to evade any questions: we wish to be 100% transparent and upfront.

WE are the gaming provider - meaning we design and program all our own games - we have deals and contracts for the feed provisions (the raw video and results streams) from various partners but the games are our own. Our gameservers take these incoming results/video streams and use it to control the games and game-states on which payouts are made (on our own systems).

As an aside, I have been making and distributing live casino games since the late 1990's and was amongst the first to ever do so - being involved in (and in a couple of cases, as a founder) of those early companies offering such things when they were produced in JAVA (applet) - later in Flash (swf), and now in HTML5 (js).

None of this would necessarily lead to trust in itself, since most of this was working behind-the-scenes as a provider (not public facing). I have also been closely involved with the founding of a number of online casinos including Dublinbet.com (which is now sold some years ago, but still operating successfully) and many others.

It is possible that at some point in the future we may showcase games that are not written by us - such as a suite of slot games - but it is yet to be determined and at that time the origins of any game will be communicated clearly.

If you click on the "Sign In" from the top-right side of the homepage, you will see that they have a "Forget Password?" option available there, but when you click it, nothing happens. So there is basically no background working done on that yet. They have a lot of work to do on their website and all these bugs and glitches will need to be fixed.

They will lose all their potential players if they don't do something with these issues soon. If they are really serious with their service and want to continue with it, they should fix the glitches and errors and provide a seamless experience to first visitors who are potential customers of the platform.

when viewed from the domain on this site it looks quite interesting using the last name satoshi and moreover payment support only uses bitcoin, I'm not a roulette game lover but I and everyone in this forum will of course also welcome new casinos in this forum and provide positive criticism input build, so far everything looks good even able to access it through my phone and I like the words on your site "INSTANT DEPOSITS & INSTANT WITHDRAWALS"

it's an easy word to attract people to play, welcome to the forum I hope you make yourself a copper member to be able to make threads more interesting using image designs and also don't forget to hold small promotions on this forum  ;)

Okay, thanks for the feedback, I hope you can fix what was in plain sight, but what about user security? Is it planned to implement 2FA or for example login after confirmation pin coming by mail or sms?

I see that they kept to their words being anonymous as there are no signs of kyc.  From my experience with casinos I think they are the first to start up with the live online casino games for gamblers and bettors. Playing live from your various locality and they are entertaining with their live gaming which I do not think any casino has done that before. Their withdrawal is fast lightning which does not take much time like other casinos that would delay your withdrawal and if the amount to your winnings is very high they would start drawing legs requesting for verifiable documents before they release your winnings and sometimes they ban or suspend your account if they can not pay tagging you a defaulter. This casino I think would do much better.

Yep, those features are being rolled into the upgraded 'account management' functionality after considering a load of feedback and making a decision about not wanting all registrations to be burdened with email verifications (hoops and hurdles when you just want to play) - they will instead be optional opt-in additions on the accounts page, as well as other coming features.

Yes, because the account that each player has, of course, also has suggestions about accounts that bring good luck and of course each account already has a different bet level.
Of course it will make customers disappointed if they forget their account password, but the features provided to overcome this problem cannot work.
Service issues like this must be prioritized because it involves the convenience of every existing customer.
What do you mean by providing a seamless experience to the first visitor?
What is meant by giving the first visitors a win or profit when they start playing so they can have fun and become loyal customers?
If that's the idea you mean, then I agree because after all they can definitely be happy and proud when in the first game they can win the game with enough profit.

It is a casino that is nothing new, it is not bad at all because it is complying with many things that players are looking for, one of them is privacy and anonymity and the way they are carrying it out is almost pursuing everything that Satoshi wanted to do. If this casino succeeds, it will be an example for many casinos, just make sure they don't ask for kyc, it's already something big and the way it's starting shows that they've done a great job, we don't know how much time the casino owner spent designing it , starting a business will never be easy, the casino needs to improve in some aspects, but improvements sometimes require a lot of money.

I wasn't talking about the games as they come from third providers and the casino can't do anything to change them, I was talking about the main page (landing page). But as I said, this suggestion is based on my own opinion and some people may disagree with it. So they can take it or leave it.
BTW, just because it's unlicensed casino doesn't mean it's decentralized.

Please check again! As you can see in the below screenshot, LN invoices expire in 10 minutes:
https://i.imgur.com/D1FPU1b.jpg

Really that hard to believe on, considering that this is really showing off some real or live games which i do believe that it do really require up some license or permission before you could able to proceed.
You cant really have able to broadcast these things as far as i know but im aint sure on how these things to be set up but i wont really be surprised if there would really be some verifications to be asked
later on. In speaking about site design then it does really still need some improvement but not really that much but it would be nice if they would be utilize those spaces.

Well, this is a common practice when creating invoices on the lightning network and by default it expires after 1 hour, but an arbitrary validity period can be set, otherwise nodes may need to save a very large number of preimages. Saving preimages for invoices that remain unpaid indefinitely would be a waste of memory and storage therefore, it makes sense that invoices expire so that preimages of unpaid invoices can be safely deleted if necessary.

I'm a bit confused about that too, that how are they actually broadcasting those live games if they are not licensed. How would a casino allow a platform without a license to use their live cams to run their business? I think we need more details about these matters from the creators. And if they impose KYC in the future, that will totally make it look bad since they say they won't ask for any documents or verifications and it's a totally anonymous casino.

About the website and it's look, I don't think that the look is bad, but there are some works required in the back end and I think as OP mentioned earlier, they are already working on them, so it should be good once they do that.

All sounds interesting and well put, and I would think that people are likely to try it. Now, if you post as newby and request any short of deposit without any particular proof and promise stuff that is pretty much illegal in most jurisdictions, I am afraid that it looks far too shady. This would be what anyone wanting people to put deposits into an scam would say. Is that the case??

They are claiming to be decentralized but I agree with you that chance of being scam rather than offer decentralized service is high. There’s a high chance that the reason they are not applying for license is because they don’t have enough resources since if this casino really wants to become decentralized then there’s no need to do deposit since user should bet just by sending the money on a smart contract to process the bet automatically without the need to store money on a centralized wallet controlled by the owner.

You're welcome on board the forum and I want to assure you that everyone is treated equally over here provided that you're doing the right thing.
I had to highlight this specifications you had and I want to let you know that tye forum keeps record so we'll and everything you so and say will always be used against you just incase there is a bridge in agreement.

I love the fact that you run a KYC free casino and I hope that KYC will not be triggered at some point maybe when there is a huge winning or withdrawal.

Another point to consider is the fat that you're not getting any license or what so ever and I really don't think it will be easy for you guys since people still want to gamble on a licensed platform and hope the game house still stay fair with KYC.

Not every Live Casino Feed is broadcast by us directly, but for which we have access through our contracts for usage of them - although one of our founders does own a couple of Casino Venues, of which we are also the broadcaster giving us complete and total control over some of the live feeds - as well as security that we can not have 'all our feeds' pulled for whatever reason by a 3rd party or contract dissolution.

We have in total over 20 live feeds and will be adding them to Nakamoto Roulette one at a time.

The feed provision in no way will impact our standing on KYC (or the lack of) - the worst-case-scenario for us is that we lose some feeds through disagreement, but we can not lose all and that is OKAY with us.

Our stance on Casino Licensing is that the most flexible licenses (such as Curacao, Costa Rica, etc) offer no player-protections (if you know anything about the industry, player complaints to these bodies fall on deaf ears) -- and the more proper licenses (Malta, UK, etc) are far too restrictive - and would A) break our KYC promise and B) restrict what regions we are allowed to operate. Neither of these are a good fit for us and we disagree with the ethos of modern casino licensing so we will not do it. Many make the argument that 'players want licensing' but actually the licensing is not for the players as much as it is for the operators to gain credit card payment gateways (something that is now impossible for a casino to have without a gaming license) - it offers very little, if anything, to the player.

I think these things being discussed here are fantastic and it really solidifies our views on what and how a Casino should be run. We want to keep it simple, easy and fun. There just isn't any need for the traditional approach here.

How could you able to convince us that these things were legit? That your one of founders are one of the owners of those casinos which you are broadcasting into?
It is really just that hard to believe on because if they are owning a website then it wouldn't really be looking like this.
It would be good if you do show up some proofs because it is really just hard to believe that kyc implementation wont really be attached into this one
considering that it is really that involving live feed games.

We are considering putting a 'Nakamoto Roulette' sign behind the table on one or two of the feeds that we control - again, we do not control or own ALL the feeds! Only some of them.

Thank you for the welcome free 1000 sat that were successfully lost in bikini roulette, it was quite fun, but not as long as we would like, you really need to make provably fair betting games, for now it's so easy to record without a hash of the bet:

https://i.imgur.com/J1zVZnB.png

That's great that you enjoyed it - we have topped you up further for more fun!

About the list of failed deposits there on your recent transactions that you screenshot though - why ? were you struggling to deposit or had some issue ?

As for 'provably fair' we absolutely WOULD do this - but since we do NOT generate the results (it is a live feed) there is literally no way to do this 'with maths'. 'Provably Fair' as a definition requires that we also generate a hash of the result BEFORE the bet is placed - this is so that after the game a player could 'prove the result did not change according to the bet they placed'... guaranteeing 'fairness'. If we do our own RNG games we would certainly include Provably Fair architecture as this is something we really like and agree with!

you're right also it seems that there is something odd they don't mention about KYC and there are many cases that are sometimes worrying about it too when you win big and withdraw money you have to complete KYC, this should also be explained by the team, maybe we need to hear it too directly from the OP, I'm still doubt the OP is from the team from this site or just as someone else promoting the referral link in the OP's signature. but it doesn't really matter either , maybe need to hear about KYC too as you said it would be better.

"... they don't mention about KYC ..." - I do not understand - we talk about having no KYC everywhere, here in posts, all over the site - literally everywhere - did I misunderstand what you are asking for ?

I am very much on the operator and developer team of the site - the only reason I used an AFF link in the signature was so i could track which clicks came from here. I have now removed it making it a naked link (honestly i did not even consider it would make me look less genuine), it makes no difference to me so it is gone - I am not a 3rd party to this.

To be clear, we do NOT require KYC - we will NEVER require KYC - this is the ethos we have decided, and this is what we will stick to :)

I'm just answering a question from a friend in the forum actually I don't mind your referral link, if it's to track traffic from this forum, I think we have the answer now, your quick response is worth appreciating, it's enough for me to see the quality of your site from the response you quickly answer the questions and doubts of people in this forum.  ;)

Actually having an affiliate link on signature space is allowed and pretty normal that other casino is doing to track the number of clicks from the forum. Questioning it is a bit absurd since he is not spamming the link on his post.

I’m more concerned on how we can verify how genuine this casino to be affiliated to the physical casino since they don’t have license or any legal proof that will make them an official partner.

yes actually I don't mind the referral link, just a few questions and answering doubts that OP is part of this site's project and doesn't consider the referral link in his signature as spam and something that is prohibited, OP shouldn't need to delete the signature affiliate link if is indeed used to track traffic from this forum. i think the problem is cleared up now OP has explained clearly so there is no doubt for anything.  ;)

No, I don't think there would be any problems, I just checked how the creation of invoices on the lightning network works for a general understanding, so to speak, but I didn't make a deposit because I don't really like roulette games. :)

I ask myself exactly the same question.
This is always the problem when there is neither license nor regulation, I have a lot of trouble to take the first step to deposit on a site without license. No licence = a lot of question raised from my side.

Anyway the design of the site is not bad, I'm always admiring to see visually clean KYC free sites, I was used to see so little credible things when I was looking for gambling games / bets without KYC that yours seems indeed more professional than many others.

Will followup your work OP

      This is what gamblers often look for in any casino where they don't have to worry about submitting kyc if ever they withdraw a large amount of gambling winnings.


      This is where there will be problems, because of course the chances are also high that when other gamblers have an issue or problem, they have no claim and competition because the person who runs the gambling establishment does not have a license.

There is no doubt that the absence of KYC can also become a problem for obtaining an online casino license, so here you will have a dilemma of trust and security, of course, this does not always mean that an online casino with a license (again, according to their statement) will not deceive you.

Casinos that don't have a license sometimes make us gamblers hesitate to play at the casino because often we come across casinos that don't have a license that will only cause problems for gamblers. The casino neither wants to pay winning gamblers the winning money nor does it ask the winner to KYC before processing their request to withdraw the money.

But if the casino doesn't have a license and can give gamblers what they want by not asking for KYC, that will be a plus for them. But after all, if the casino becomes big, it will attract the government's attention. Eventually, such casinos are required to have a license and the casinos will ask their users for KYC. But if the casino can think of not being so strict about implementing KYC, gamblers can likely accept it and probably still play at the casino.

Again, the absence of KYC leads to the fact that the online casino will never receive a license, therefore you will not have the opportunity to contact the licensing authorities if any problems arise, it is good if the casino has a large audience of users and, for example, verified Twitter or another social network, in general there is always a problem of choosing freedom or relative security.

I think the site complies with many things that should always be correct in any casino, you have privacy, fast deposits and withdrawals, it goes with Satoshi's philosophy but before all this, how are they going to deal with the issue of licenses, No KYC ?, let me tell you that if you establish yourself as a good site, many players will tip their hats and praise you, because basically they have everything a player is looking for, and that is something that sounds very good, and the truth is that I would like it to be I gave them everything, if the project goes well they would have a great demand for players, not bad.

I must say that it's quite sad to see a new game with 725+ thread views and over 100 responses....but only 7 games played by 2 unique users. I suppose credit is due for the operator for not faking any statistics (as so many casinos do, I believe). I think that more effort should be put into marketing outside of this forum for it to gain some popularity. After some popularity, maybe it will gain some more players from here.

I think that all this is due to the limited choice on the online casino site where only live roulette is presented, it may be worth thinking about expanding the offers for slot games and not just limited to roulette, but the creators may have their own idea.

Yes, we absolutely will be adding more games (both more Live Roulette tables and other games). We also of course plan to add slots.

So far we have not launched a real marketing campaign so this is an early announcement but the real marketing will begin soon enough.

so that is also the reason why you are not constantly active in posting here in your thread?
when will the real marketing starts and what are the concrete plan of releasing these?
maybe conducting advertising like signature and also some give away events?
as i see in the years that those are still the beneficial way though never expect a speed result about those instead this will take time .

Sorry I didn't understand what you mean about not constantly active - I've been checking back here multiple times a day and I've been replying to everything I can (but I am limited by the rules to how many it allows me to reply to) - for example by replying to this, i am prohibited now from replying to those comments prior (which I would love to reply to!) because it would be a double-reply :( I am trying to answer everything I can. I also receive messages on here saying my posts/replies have been deleted according to those rules.... so I am limited. I guess it is a Newbie status thing ? maybe ?

The hope was to have a somewhat quiet announcement here from some core community players to gain feedback and suggestions, and then implement as much of that as we can before doing the main launch, so that it would be more effective and have a better shot. That is still the plan.

We will begin with mail out marketing lists and some other avenues next week and are considering a bigger campaign amongst the forums with bonuses/giveaways etc.

No, it is not limited to newbies. It is a forum rule that no one should create multiple posts on a single row. If you want to reply to 10 people's questions/posts then you can do that in a single row. You can enable notification so that you may receive notification on email and/or telegram when there is any response to your thread.

Name looks so simple yet so good. A tribute to Satoshi, some may see it offensive though. Not every Bitcoin enthusiast is familiar with gambling and it may cause bad image for them.
My observations:
Fonts look too big. As if it was made large to be accessible for the disabled. Is it your choice? It doesn't look professional.
"ALL Players get an Affiliate Link Code to share which nets them a whopping 50% of GGR (Gross Gaming Revenue) monthly for the lifetime of all player accounts they introduce." Is this lifetime referral earning sustainable?
We can't watch live videos without logging in. Is it done on purpose?
And last, do you have a license or not? I couldn't see it on the website.

I don't think I have nakamotoroulette.com there is a license, which can be understood from the lack of KYC, and yes, of course you are right about the UI, which requires significant refinement to look more attractive. For example, after logging in to the site and launching the game, roulette is launched in a pop-up window, it seems to me that it would be more convenient to see it continuing on the main screen, since it makes no sense to expand the window with the game due to low video quality.

https://i.imgur.com/47iyKnO.png

Yes, we do not intend to get a license as it will limit our player base and regions we can operate as well as introduce strong over the top (in our opinion) KYC requirements.

The issue with the game popping out in a separate window and/or being embedded in the page is mobile phones - it is extremely difficult to find a way that it works for both desktop AND mobile without essentially creating two wholly different sites and UI's - we are still trying to 'get this right' and it will evolve as we use different devices and try different ways to present it -- and yes we definitely need to choose between it being 100% best on one particular device/platform and it being accessible on ALL platforms/devices. Cross device/platform support is extremely finicky and what works in one environment doesn't work at all in another. Due to very limited screen space AND tiny betting positions we must have the game pop out into as near-full-screen-as-possible on mobile devices. That said, there is a good argument to detect the device type and switch methods accordingly however this is terrible for testing and reporting as it is yet another variable anyone should report when describing issues - so we chose purposefully to keep it simple and 'the same' on all devices, at least for now. This may evolve in the future.

Of course, we do not consider it 'low video quality' - as it is not a pre-recorded broadcast therefor can not take advantage of some of the compression other streams can (netflix ?) and each viewer essentially costs us money to deliver that live stream in low latency (as it must never be cached), it is as good or better than the industry standard in live casino broadcasts. There has always been a balance between video-quality/bandwidth-utilisation/realtime-latency/cost when doing this, even with the first versions designed to work down a 56k modem connection in the 1990's (of which I was also one of the founding developers at that time too).


The design will evolve - for the time being we want a clear and concise uncluttered presentation which gets the message across and is ultimately as easy to use as possible.

Yes, 50% GGR is sustainable as it is NOT 50% of deposits or 50% of income, it is 50% of 'profit' generated over those introduced players. GGR is Gross Gaming Revenue, and it is calculated as BETS minus WINS. This means that it reduces our house edge on roulette by half, but it still a positive number. Most gaming sites offer an affiliate deal such as 25% or 30% or 40% (a few at 50% too) -- however they require you to jump through some hoops and register as an affiliate usually on a side-platform and usually come with long lists of rules and stipulations and in our opinion, is overly complicated. We figure let's just jump over all that and remove the hurdles and make EVERYONE an affiliate automatically AND remove all the complexity and just 'keep it simple'. Need more marketing codes ? just open more accounts so you can account your individual campaigns independently if you wish. etc.

Technically this does allow players to open an account and be an affiliate of themselves - and thats OKAY! -- yes it reduces our house advantage but overall it still works for us. We are thinking to make this message clear in the verbage on the page - that you may of course include your own betting activity therefor gaining a "50% cashback of any losses month to month". Why not.

We will make all the games playable for fun without logging in, yes.

Absolutely loving this feedback!

It is evident that this casino is operating on a limited budget, as indicated by its somewhat outdated website and a few errors, such as the video tutorial on this page [1] linking to a different website, and no marketing that i have seen yet. Nonetheless I believe the casino's offering of no KYC services and instant withdrawals or deposits is noteworthy, as these are not commonly available at other casinos i may give it a try soon.

Could you please provide information on the origin of the tables? Were they acquired by the casino or rented from another company?

[1] : https://www.nakamotoroulette.com/?nav=about

gambling without KYC, that's one thing that's impossible, is there a guarantee that if someone wins a big win it will be safe for withdrawal,
because gambling websites usually do kyc even though it's only general data, there is little doubt about actually playing because your site is different from gambling sites that have existed in this forum from the start

Most of platforms nowadays might that announce that they dont ask out for some KYC which is good but since these places are regulated then expect that including into their terms and conditions on which
there's stated that it is really having the chance on asking if ever they would need to.This is why it would really be on your risks taking which site you are really that playing on.
If we do speak about new sites then it wont be bad on testing out new ones but of course the terms and conditions and simply its reputation isnt something that you could
ignore and check it out.

Thanks for clear answers to our questions.
No KYC is a good approach but no license is a no-go for most people. For this reason, they don't play large amounts until the casino proves itself and gain some reputation. People hesitate to play if they can't find an interlocutor when there is a problem. Even in very large casinos, problems sometimes arise and people cannot solve their problems with the support team. I think this is where you will have the most difficulty. It takes years to gain reputation and too easy to lose it.

License might not really matter, but the matter is that how legit the casino company is? Even the casinos that registered with license are malfunctioning, they would allow to deposit but to withdraw is the big problem.

So if the op has not licensed his company but he does the right thing by not withholding gamblers wins and withdrawal is without obstruction then Nakamoto Roulette is a good casino site to gamble and introduce to friends. But whereby the withdrawal is having issue then it will have a bad name like others. KYC is not necessary in all casinos if the casino doing well. But if the KYC is necessary they should ask the user on time to avoid delay payment.

I can attest the fact that the casino gave 1000 sats to play for free but they have no option for kyc which I believe most gamblers here like and would prefer it to be that way. However, the casino is not a licensed casino which would cast more doubt on their credibility as to satisfy customers to the maximum as they claim to do but if they can deliver on their promises as they have said, I see no reason why they should be doubted and moreover, most casinos claiming to have license to operate are busy strapping gamblers of their hard earned resources with excuses of being a defaulter and possibly cheating claims against their customers which does not go down well with gamblers. If this casino can deliver as they have promised I think they can go far in existence as a casino wether licensed or not as long as the gamblers deemed them trusted as a result of their transparency and accountability, they would measure up in good competition with other casinos.

Well, in view of all this, there are things that are allowed in the forums and others that are not, the reference links under the signature is something normal,here the important thing is to realize that the traffic that is generated in the forum is always legitimate, most casinos know that the advertising that is done here in the forum is the most authentic than that of social networks,where the followers of some are not organic,mostly  it is all due to bots, so when the use is made correct forum you get the best profits.

No regulations, no license, no KYC.... Is your casino decentralized, open source and autonomous? If not, then I would be very hesitant to deposit any money there. Not only does this scream "red flags" all around but even if you were not planning on something shady like stealing your users funds or scamming them out of money, what happens if it turns out that you are operating outside your governments laws? What happens if the law finds you and shuts you down? What happens to the funds?

Sorry, as much as I hate KYC, a casino with a license is more trustworthy to me.

For our purposes, Know Your Customer is crucial, and I get that. Where would you be if you didn't have it? Especially annoying when you're attempting to maintain privacy and prevent identity theft. It's interesting to consider the implications of an unlicensed casino. This may not be as shady as it sounds, and it could be the key to making online gaming safer and more transparent than ever before. Maybe this gambling establishment has found the sweet spot between consumer expectations and actual service. Truth be said, I am intrigued until then.

The dangers of unlicensed casinos, however, need to be discussed. They claim to be trustworthy and honest, but can we really bank on that? Where do they keep their clients' money and personal details safe? I'd like some answers to these questions before I put any money on the line at this casino. But I do enjoy trying new things, so I look forward to seeing how this site fares over time.

when it comes to the KYC that the casino will eventually ask for, it happens a lot. but there are some casinos that are legitimate also don't ask customers to send KYC when withdrawing large funds from the casino. but the problem here is not just KYC but the problem of unlicensed casinos which makes users hesitate to gamble large amounts in those casinos. because on this forum most of the casinos have valid licenses that make customers believe in betting on the casino using large amounts.

comparing the old casinos that have been popular here for a long time with this new casino, it is clear that there is a big difference. but that's not good either.
It's also a good idea for casino owners to consider licensing issues at this casino so that customers also don't hesitate to bet large amounts here.

to be honest, I really like playing roulette, but on the other hand, when I wanted to try this casino, I was a little hesitant. because the problem is not using the license.

For a long time, casinos have had the condition to play that they meet the kyc requirements and that is something that seems normal to me, which is not normal for a new casino to also require them quite rigidly because that way they will not get any kind of players, new casinos should have a little more flexibility with kyc, or they should be very simple so that there is no problem or the players start to annoy me for that, I am one of those who does not support kyc, yes in duelbits I did and it seemed to me that it did not last long.

Decentralised: unfortunately this is not possible because the live broadcasts must be collated somewhere at some central point, with which to tie result data and calculate bets/wins for each spin. Decentralised simply does not make technical or feasible sense within a live casino game architecture. It is also possible I am misunderstanding the meaning here ?

Opensource: this would make sense if and when we start offering 'RNG' (random number generated) games - and this is a concept we might consider for the slot games. That is an interested thought...

Autonomous: absolutely - the deposits AND withdrawals are 100% autonomous right now. When you click withdraw you are immediately given a QR code to scan with your bitcoin lightning wallet, and these funds are withdrawn instantly. It takes under 2 seconds (literally) to make a withdrawal. No questions asked, completely autonomous.

What happens if the law ... shuts you down? : this is possible for any casino, including licensed casinos - if you have ever made a complaint as a player to a licensing body you will know that the casino license does not guarantee the player anything at all and often nothing results from complaints made - the license is usually just a way to procuring payment gateways and abiding by anti-money-laundering-laws via enforced KYC. None of this really helps the player.  The best strategy with ANY casino (licensed or not) is to withdraw your winnings/balance at the end of your gaming session, which in many other online casinos is not possible due it it taking days (sometimes longer) to process a manual withdrawal - in our case, withdrawals are instant and can be in your own wallet within literally 2 seconds. In this way the player gets the safety they deserve.

Interestingly, I already receive a second email notification about crediting 5,000 Satoshi to an account that does not require wagering and any requirements, I switched to my account and there really is 5,000 sat on the balance, I just wanted to know if you are conducting some kind of marketing or is it just a free distribution to users nakamotoroulette.com? But thanks anyway.

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Yep, it is both a bit of marketing and a free giveaway to users who were already registered - just generating more activity.

The main reason is we did a large mail shot recently and got a few hundred new registrations but only a handful of deposits (and quite a few emails requesting FIAT currency deposit options) -- so we figure most of those users who registered probably don't have a "bitcoin lightning" compatible wallet - so rather than just tell them they need one, we figure if we GIVE them a few sats to play and withdraw, so they can sort out a wallet and see how easy the process is, thereby perhaps activating them as future players. Maybe...

You're very welcome and thanks!

Hi, welcome to the forum. I have checked your site. The design is simple and attractive; your site seems simple and user-friendly.
It's good that you have included the commonly asked questions on top. I will try this platform as well and will share my experience.

It's better if there are no comparisons of that sort in my opinion. Of course, it's a player's choice if they would like to play on a casino or not based on any criteria that they might not like, but I think new casinos also deserve a chance if they are offering something different than the others, in this case, it's the instant deposits and withdrawals they offer.

In a normal cryptocurrency casino, whether licensed or trusted, you won't be able to withdraw your money without KYC that too within a matter of minutes. If a casino allows their players to do that, I think it's definitely worth a shot, maybe not with a very large amount, but there's nothing wrong in trying them out with a small amount.

Why try even with a small amount?
They say they are launching NAKAMOTO ROULETTE which accepts bitcoin as currency and does not require KYC at all to keep customers anonymous and does not need to provide identification.
They also mention that it has instant withdrawals.
So that way they can definitely accept large withdrawals without needing KYC, so if we make large withdrawals they still ask for KYC so we can provide feedback on what they have written in the conditions stated.
Every casino must be able to be responsible for what is their policy and cannot just change everything that has been set at once because it can cause bad feedback and disappointment from customers.

Well, I hope this will help in attracting potential users, although I am not a fan or an avid roulette player, but as soon as I get rid of the main one, I will definitely use this hand to play, I hope I will be lucky. :)

This is the problem for small and not reputable casino, when there's a lucky gambler win big amount, they will freeze the funds and the reason is they're still under investigation about the account. They will ask the gambler to wait until the investigation end and they will trying to accuse the account break their rule. If the account doesn't broke any rule, they can add new rule and no one will know it!

Yes, you're right, it happens to be common on the part of online casinos that change their rules on the go, but in many gambling platforms it is written in their ToS that they leave the rules to themselves, as for example happened to a user when, after his winnings, his country of residence suddenly appeared in the list of restrictions[1], although it used to be in the allowed ones.

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[1]: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445439.0

I don't know about the withdrawal of funds, so I haven't checked it yet, but today I tried to play and even managed to win 18,5k satoshi, but it's not serious to withdraw such amounts. It's bad of course that there is no recording of the game, since I did not expect that there would be a win, then I was not ready to take screenshots, there is only a changed balance.

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If that's the case, gamblers can also report to this forum so that people on this forum can also see developments and casino behavior like that adding regulations, but as far as I know it's usually cases like that because gamblers play unfairly by abusing bonuses so casinos freeze their accounts, we also can't blame the casino completely, it must be absolutely fair to reveal evidence whether it was the gambler who was harmed or the casino, but it would be better discussed in this forum to discuss accusations.

Sorry mate, but I don't understand it? will be able to withdraw or not? Just interested because as we all know that they are a new website and promoting that there are no KYC whatsoever.

I just again try their online roulette to see how provably fair it is, but then again, it's live game and you can see that someone is really putting money here wit the live dealer so perhaps it's real. But just interested about the withdrawal if it is real time and you don't have to wait.

I also received the free sats too but I still have questions to why you want to do away with your casino having a License and to the best of my knowledge, license has to do with your casino undergoing a kyc which is a procedure to know whom the owners are so as to guarantee transparency and credibility in the process of rendering services and other necessities involved but you opted, still yet you do a live online game show while gambling. Although there are some gamblers that are ok with it but not all will find it conducive for them to deal when you do not have any license.

Lastly, your games are just limited for which I believe you are still developing the casino but in the nearest future, I will suggest to also include other games to be playing live while gamblers bet or play to their satisfaction. When you render Services of such nature, you end up getting the needed attraction you have been longing for.

Of course, you can try, but I have less than $5 there, so I think the casino will not block it because it does not make sense, but I am not sure that I can save more to test the withdrawal of funds, if something happens and I manage to win more and accumulate at least $20-$50, I will inform you here.

If I'm not mistaken, they are offering gamblers here to try their platform by giving you sats to start playing with them.

And as what @Daltonik said, he has less than $5, so I doubt that he will withdraw it, or the casino's are going to stop him from withdrawing since the amount is too small. In any case, it seems that this platform might slowly gain traction base on free sats trial that they are offering us. So hopefully if you chance your mind and deposit and play your favorite game then you can go back and see how it goes playing there.

Well, that means that if I have 5 dollars or less, and if I multiply them, why can't I withdraw them if I'm counting on my good game and luck, if it multiplies, I think they should let it be withdrawn, unless it is you have chosen a special bonus and have to make an additional requirement, that is Something that I do not see much sense in, but each casino has its rules and that is something that sometimes when you take it you do not read the terms and conditions, it can could that influence it? I always read to take a bonus, and I don't take them much because it doesn't suit me.

The profit on the deposit is not in question of the post you are quoting. He is just doubting that his balance might be not sufficient to meet the minimum of withdrawal of the casino which I can relate since some casino set a high withdrawal limit based on the cryptocurrency they are using.

A USDT(ERC20) for example usually set as 20$ minimum withdrawal amount due to its network fee on ETH. His 5$ deposit will be trap in there until he can grow it above 20$ or deposit a new one to increase his balance.

OP I have been able to read through all the comments and your post as well but i am made to understand that this thread was created as at when this casino was launched and if i am not mistaken, from then till now is a good numbers of days or weeks which i stand to be corrected. However is would be nice you look into your topic matter by editing it  so s people would not be misled to thinking it was created today ie, you can change it from "NAKAMOTO ROULETTE launched today" to NAKAMOTO ROULETTE launched. All you will need to do is just to remove the "today" and leave the rest of the others as it tallies with the current stand of the casino. This would be nice you do that so.

I agree with you that the word "Today"  should be removed from the title of the topic. And the title of the topic should be edited to the name of the gambling site only or add any promotional offer as another gambling thread represents. I do not think the word "launched" should remain on the title it should be removed too from the title.

Has anyone tried this casino gambling? How are you? Is the withdrawal transaction fast? when the withdrawal amount is big, is there really no kyc required from gamblers? I haven't tried playing it yet, so I feel more comfortable playing crypto gambling with those who have been here for a long time in the forum and have really tried it in the communities here.

I can confirm that the minimum withdrawal is just 10 sats (0.00000010 bitcoin or less than one cent value) - it is crazy low! there are no limitations with us :)

I can also confirm that the bonuses we have been giving away come with ZERO bonus terms or conditions, withdrawals are completely open immediately, even without any game activity. We want people to experience the seamless INSTANT withdrawals which itself builds trust.

I tested the withdrawal of funds as I brought the balance to 28,500 sat from the Nakamoto Roulette online casino to the wallet instantly, although I had to install a wallet that supports Lightning network, I installed Muun wallet after the withdrawal request, a window appears in which you need to specify the amount for withdrawal, then a barcode appears that is valid for 5 minutes, just scan the code in your wallet and after a second, they appear on the balance.

Please note that some countries may have restrictions on payments in the Lightning network and if after scanning the code you get a message that this service is not supported in your country, try to select a different region in the settings or use a VPN.

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I think I did change the title already, am I wrong ? -- it was a good suggestion and we have done it as far as I know :)

As for a treasure hunt, I love the idea - maybe I will embed some clues which lead to an easter egg full of FREE SATS or something :D - okay going to have to come up with a puzzle... damnit now I need to try to be clever.

Well but that's a very positive thing and I know everyone here on the forum likes this stuff when it comes to Bonuses and Contests ,that's a great way to get attention and I'm 100% sure there will be very active Players.

If a Casino offers the hope that players can look for a profit or that their game can be extended in order to have chances to win ,it is the best way to hook them ,a new Casino gives the illusion that they can have many chances to win ,so they will not hesitate to deposit to try their luck ,this is how you start to build a Community.

Bonuses and contests can indeed be a powerful way to attract the attention of gamblers, but not all casinos that provide bonuses or contests can be successful because casinos are also a determinant of success such as bonuses and contests if the one holding it is a small casino that does not have a high reputation or trust then it is unlikely that many gamblers will be interested.
So it all depends on where the bonus provider and the contest are held.
For a moment, my friend has a different assumption from yours. Will the casino forever give hope to gamblers to have more chances of winning?
As time goes by, other casinos will appear that are more attractive and gamblers will only be given a statement of hope that they have a big chance to win, but in reality it is difficult to win, so it is possible that gamblers can move to another casino for their bets.

someone already tried that is @Daltonik and he withdraw funds from this casino with a small amount it works but I'm not sure if withdrawing large funds does it require KYC or not.

If you are really hesitant to bet at a casino that you don't know, use a small amount to try a few bets and when you get a slightly large amount, try withdrawing it from the casino. this way I usually do to test new casino sites.

there's nothing wrong with trying if there are free funds provided as a promotion and someone is already withdrawing money from there, don't compare the old casino with the new casino because it will definitely be different, so try to play in order to get a new experience, talking about KYC you might have already see on the front page of their site 100% NO KYC  ;)

I play Fairspin, they allow making deposits in crypto, without commission. Plus, they have a lot of casino activities. I am participating in the tournament now, where I collect tokens that are given when you're placing bets. I have every chance to compete for a big prize, as much as $200k are on the line.

If they keep providing instant withdrawals and no KYC they won't have problem attracting players. The only thing I'd worry about is a possible money laundering accusations towards the casino. That's why casinos often restrict people from certain countries like the US because the US likes to sue businesses that allow Americans to play without KYC. Sooner or later they will start blocking your site and trying to get to you. For now it's fine because you don't have enough money coming through to show up on their radar.


Is this a thread about Fairspin?

This was before but now it has changed. What attracts gamblers to play on a crypto casino nowadays is if they don't have a KYC and also if the casino is verified to be reputable because the number of scammers right now are massive.

If a gambler focus only on the bonus, their winning will still be useless in case they get lucky to pass the requirement. They will be having a hard time of withdrawing it due to the KYC regulation and also if the site is scam. Casino never promise to give more chances of winning to the gamblers. Doing so will only make the players disappointed if they can't win but if the casino made that possible, their business won't last long.

I love the way you took your time to explain this very issue to the user and I could feel some deot of sincerity but on the other hand, it seems you're the only one in charge of this stuff and you should think of getting an amazing team to help you out with some of the works because you wouldn't be able to handle all of the works yourself.
I checked through the site and it look nice and cool but I really didn't catch anything very spectacular but keep it up and I would advice that you get a manager on here to help you with marketing through signature campaign as that is one of the ways through which you can spread out in the market.
Good luck.

For now, instant withdrawals and non KYC are important aspects that are prioritized by most gamblers.
But actually KYC is also very important and needed by casinos to prevent money laundering or accusations of money laundering.
As long as casinos enforce KYC, there is less possibility of money laundering activities. Even the US cannot block or sue a casino because casinos are already established and protected by the license used.
This is a difficult choice for casinos because they have to have a lot of customers and try to always attract customers, but on the other hand gamblers also have important points to prioritize when choosing a casino.


But sadly not many big casinos that have proven to be reputable operate without KYC.
This is a little difficult for most gamblers and gamblers have to really look for a casino with such specifications in order to be able to gamble anonymously and feel comfortable or safe.
So far there are only a few casinos that I have found with the specifications we want.

Of everything he says, I love what you focus on when you say that if the player wants to make a withdrawal, it will be instantaneous and not manual, that is something that gives us all some calmness, because from my own experience I do not trust casinos uqe They have a manual withdrawal mode, because that leads to many problems, and that is something that I do not like at all, in any case, it is very good that you said it because many players have these doubts, sometimes they do not dare to ask out of pity or something like that, but it's good that you have those policies.

OP I was playing a roulette game and I noticed that connection keeps showing me error meanwhile I also noticed the staff on parking up I was moved to ask questions as to what was happening then I remembered that there is no game live chat fir online players. How about looking into this features and making it readily available so that we could easily interact while the game is going on as we are also part of it.

I think in this roulette there is live chat in the features menu and I try to click it, there is an error like the image below.
on the screen display many numbers 0 appear after I click on this chat.
it looks like this casino still needs a lot of improvement and OP please consider this to be conveyed to the development team so that all these problems are fixed immediately.

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In fact, a casino is always going to find a way to make players fall in love through what they say, what they propose, and it is obvious that players go to the sites that most attract their attention, sometimes not because they have options to win. easy, but because it attracts their attention, so if good attention is combined with promotion that looks simple and that it is not so difficult to win, the players will go there, and when everyone comments that there are ways to win and not so difficult It will have a lot of traffic, of course this can be a risk, but it would be an infallible competition.

Unfortunately live chat with the Casino/Dealer is not possible for these feeds as they are provided as an integrated stream to many providers and websites, it would be 'crazy' if each website could interact with the dealer (overwhelming for them). Hence most integrations are video+results only, such as in this case.

The game client is evolving and we are updating it constantly, you may find new features or deprecated features from time to time, sure.

We are doing more game interface updates this week too with a few new features!

Evolution gaming and Pragmatic Game have those feature that user can interact with the dealer through live chat while their game is being stream in different casino platform. I knew that your stream is different because you are just using some sort of cctv on your stream but it’s really possible to have live chat even if the game is being played in different casino.

Try to check out how massive the chat volume of crazy time by evolution gaming. Evolution gaming game shows received huge volume of chat on their chatbox that comes from different players on different casino.

We will definitely consider it, especially with the player-to-player chat which could be fun :)

Exactly! Make it like a troll box/ chat box which all the user playing in different platform can interact to each other while at the same time the host can see and join to the discussion on the chat box. This is how live games chat box works now since user wants an experience that he is playing on a physical casino through having a feature to virtually talk to the dealer and player at the same time.

It’s been so long since I last visit your casino. Is adding Blackjack and other table game is still on your plan because that’s what many players play these days on a live games.

Yep, live Blackjack and other table games are coming as well as the RNG equivalents and Slots etc. It will take a little time but those will all be there eventually.

Well, but from the depths of our being, we are interested in a casino that does not ask for KYC, perfect and if it meets all the licensing requirements and is up to date with the law, I would not worry about that, it is not necessarily that they are laundering money all the time, as I have said in previous threads, those who launder money are not going to take risks in a casino to do so, they know very well that they are in danger because a casino can simply keep that money if it finds an anomaly or a suspicious activity, that's why I wouldn't worry about it, also this is with crypto, by law by simple right we should never give any kind of kyc because this is crypto, I think you should start from there first.

How about into those known casinos out there which does ask some level 1 KYC like Roobet? How you do find up these things to be non so good? Yes, you do got the point because we are here on crypto space on

which majority of people here is really longing for non-KYC or something that doesnt really need up verification and we could play right away but we know that most of us would be seeking out about being the licensed or regulated as some sort of security.Well you do have the point that not all new and non regulated are scams but peoples confidence are really that with into those who are really that licenses.
Overall, its up to someones choice whether they would really sticking on what they do have in their mind or would really be going with the flow.

The online gambling scene sure ignites a firestorm of opinions, doesn't it? You've got diehards swearing by KYC to thwart fraud and money laundering, and others who think it's a bothersome infringement on their personal space and freedom. Where do I stand? Smack dab in the middle. I say it's vital to find that harmonious sweet spot between safeguarding players from danger and cherishing their rights. No universal remedy may exist, but I trust we can unite and brainstorm a solution that suits everyone's taste.

You make a very good point: there simply is not a 'one size fits all' approach - our ethos is strictly NO KYC of any kind, ever - realising that will limit some avenues for this site in particular, and realising it may introduce other concerns - it is still our ethos for Nakamoto Roulette.

In todays crazy and somewhat tyrannical world we have a stronger than ever resolve to maintain privacy and confidentiality above all else.

We may launch other sites in the future, with different partners and different strategies under different names - but this one is and will always remain, KYC-free.

That sounds pretty good, all of us here hope so, if you make a gambling site in Crypto/Bitcoin payments only focus on one type of game, namely: ROULETTE seems a little less interesting to visit, maybe if you add interesting games to play on the NAKAMOTO gambling site, maybe it looks a little different.
There are reasons where gambling sites are not crowded with visitors.
• game no options.
• not everyone likes to make bets such as roulette, Blackjack, poker, those bets have special skills to bet.
• visitors are more interested in new types of games and so on.

For that, if in the future you have a good idea about your gambling site, it may look interesting, so do it more challenging and fair, competition is tougher.

They may be focusing their services on the roulette game for now. But I will agree to the suggestion that they can always expand their games.
Just like most dice sites launched in the forum. They started with dice game only and even have dice attached to their domain names.
However, as the competition is growing tougher, they added other casino games to sustain the interest of their players.
For now, as they are still doing improvements on their site, they can market the roulette game as their main attraction.
I've seen that they are also accepting LN deposits, so that's great. However, they need to put content on those tabs - deposit.

I think this casino is just sticking to their original plan which is the roulette game as that was what they intend rendering as service to their registered members but however, anything added now seems to be pleasing to get the attention of more participants  to their casino.  The idea of adding other games like they have said would be on their other affiliate site which would be developed on the long run. I also like the fact that they are kyc free which however goes in line with the satoshi plans. While the game is still under development, like you have said , it would be nice they  do some sort of good marketing to build their popularity here.

This is live casino? This is my first time to see a live stream casino like this as you can see other real life players it's more like a CCTV but I have some questions, the bets here is there a delay like sports betting? Does anyone played in this gambling site? I wanted to read some reviews first before trying this one, have anyone successfully withdraw in the site?

Are you only offering roulette? or do you have other casinos you can offer?

So far this is the first live stream bitcoin casino I have seen and it amazes me that the casino is running live 24 hours Service uninterrupted.  The bets are live for you to see. The process is probably fiat mate as you see when the bet is going on coupled with the roulette going live and the winnings are show there live for players to see for themselves.  I just like the transparency being displayed by the Nakamoto team in delivering Service.

I can conveniently tell you that I got some  sats to play on their website which I was very interesting to do. Talking about withdrawal, this casino uses lightning wallet for withdrawal but I have not attempted making any withdrawal but if you check previous comment, some one claimed withdrawing from the casino and claimed the transaction scaled through.

This is just a lower version of Evolution gaming and Pragmatic Play live games that operates 24hrs without any closing time. These live games provider is already existing for so many year with a better camera angle unlike this that is just using a cctv type camera to stream the game. I think you should browse other casino amd look for their live games category like Livecasino.io

Yes this is live as they claim but there’s no way to verify it since there’s no live chat and clock available to see the actual time on the dealers side.

Since this is just a cctv live feed. There’s a few seconds delay on the result but it doesn’t matter since the table is close for placing new bets once the roulette started spinning.

Roulette is the only available games available so far on this casino.

Live casinos can be out there i guess because there are lots of big casinos which i strongly believe will be having live casino on their site but are not here. Having a live casino is nice you know because it calls for transparency and credibility but however, that does not guarantee that the casino would be transparent as it is but to some extent it is.

Exactly, what is wanted here is that there are casinos that do not have those kyc requirements that are so relevant, there are many things to do, one of them is that the casino provide the corresponding security, I have seen how in some new casinos and they do not they have licenses but they have the null kyc process that does not suit some, but when they acquire licenses and have kyc then the casino begins to be equally criticized, in a crypto casino by nature they should never ask for kyc, but as government entities somehow In a way they want to be part of this, which I do not agree with, they make them demand kyc.

Yes, some sites in some situations can be compelled to do various things - but not in our case - we will never release ANY data to any 3rd party or government anywhere, from any country. We would just as soon delete it than to share it. It just wouldn't happen - also, we don't keep any personal data anyway due to our strict ZERO-KYC-EVER policy.

Yes, I hope that what you say will be fulfilled until later in the future and don't disappoint the customers there.
For the past few weeks I've been trying to play there and haven't had any problems so my hope is that in the future when I get a big KYC win, I'll be asked for the withdrawal requirements that I will make.
You can understand and see for yourself that many casinos out there say no KYC but when there is a large withdrawal transaction KYC is enforced and I don't want that kind of thing to happen to me.
In 3 times I have not fully won the deposit, but I am sure that one day luck will bring victory to me.
Keep up with what has become the initial terms and policies, friends, because we gamblers don't want to feel like we're being disadvantaged.

Well, since things are like that, I can only congratulate them and wish them to continue maintaining that legacy, that when many realize what the casino is, they will Value their word very much and they will have many clients in the casino, Currently that they give them The security of people to keep their data safe is something that many players, especially those who are whales, like, and the part that you say that they would rather destroy those files than share them is an act of loyalty, and I think that loyalty in a casino is well Rewarded by its players, because that makes the community defend the casino.

I do not really see anything probably fair in your roulette game. How do you explain this when someone plays and win a big time and all of a suden lost everything within that same time of winning. What a miasma. Hos do you explain that?
It is understood that casinos and gambling are like that but it seems yours is obvious.

I don't trust roulette.
In Nakamoto Roulette, is it possible to check the honesty of the results after placing bets?
Or do you only have roulettes with dealers that cannot be checked?

I don't see any provably fair system in their casino, so there's no way to verify your bet. The @OP was inactive since the last month, I personally will not take a risk because if I get a bad experience and want to complaint, there's no guarantee they will solve it.

Play with your own risk.

We are very much still active :) - we just did not have any questions or comments asked to reply to -- of course we will be adding more games which we are actively working on, including RNG (random number generated) versions of games, which we will include provably-fair versions, it will come.

For the time being it is live roulette games of which we have no control over the result whatsoever, so in that regard it can be trusted as we do not generate ANY result.

We have had exactly zero complaints or unpaid players -- and we intend to keep it that way! try it and see! - withdrawals are not manually processed, they are automated and instantaneous when using lightning!

is nakamoto roulette down?  i can't open the site

Sorry, there was a temporary technical issue with certificate - it has been resolved and the live games are online.

It’s a nice project, but the Devs been anonymous is a red flag, only crypto newbies will invest in a project that has unknown devs

That said, I wish you Goodluck still

I think KYC is important, I can see you said there’s no KYC needed, I know you’re trying to make the whole registration process easy for your users, but KYC is important, even if it’s the lowest form of it

This is a casino, not a crypto investment. I wonder what you read in the info you quoted to categorise this as a startup project. Also, most casino owners don't introduce themselves publicly since it is typically owned by a company not by a single entity.



KYC is not important in gambling technically, It's just being required by regulators to make sure that casino will regulate their players to avoid money laundering. This casino doesn't have any gambling license so they really not gonna apply KYC here but I doubt that someone willing to risk and trust unknown casino without a license.

is Makamoto Roulette site downed again? I can't open it.

It is working for us - do you get any kind of error ? do the pages come up and the problem is in the game or the website ? if you email info@nakamotoroulette.com  we would love to resolve this for you.

There is a lot that has been discussed about KYC, but when looking at all the casinos in the forum we can realize that here what is requested in KYC are things that are not so difficult and from what I have seen in this casino is that KYC is quickly approved, and this allows money to be withdrawn without any impediment, I know that asking for KYC is quite annoying and it can bother many of us, but if there is a casino that can resolve all withdrawals without KYC, the only one that I have seen this is freebitcoin, otherwise everyone asks for kyc, so this is a requirement that is already mandatory for all casinos.

Welcome onboard and from the comments from.the from users l, it seems you guys are already doing  well but I think k have a colorful graphics design will draw more attention to your casino and I love all the concept you presented  bit not getting any certificates will be a very challenging  one for you guys because of the gamblers might want to extremely very careful while dealing with you guys and at some point might. Ame it seem like a hit and run project where people just come to hit it big and just vanish and at some points people are still having trust issues  with  registered casinos and you want to them to easily believe  those that aren't registered 😑

Okay, but unfortunately there is no such thing as a 'registered casino' which can take players from everywhere, and certainly not anonymously - which are both things we want to provide.

The way licensing works these days (it was different in decades past) is that each jurisdiction has its own licensing authorities - want french players ? you need a french license. Want to allow USA players ? no such license exists. Want to accept Australian players ? impossible due to existing monopolization of licensing, etc.

So there simply is no path or method or system for providing what 'everyone wants', it is always going to be a compromise, unfortunately.

We err on the side of privacy and freedom and hence, have no licensing restrictions by simply not having one.

It might not be really necessary, but most famous casino owners do introduce themselves to the public if they are operating openly having more than one licenses and having partnerships with football clubs or celebrities, that kind of casinos cannot have anonymous owners or staff, but if we talk about small platform like this one, Nakamoto Roulette, I don't think it's an issue if the owner is anonymous.

Someone who might not feel comfortable playing at a casino that has an anonymous owner should simply choose another platform, but I personally don't see any issues with that as long as they are providing good services.

is nakamoto roulette down again?  i can't open the site.

It’s working properly in my end. In your last week inquiry, Do you manage to access the site right after nakamoto roulette update you? Because the problem might be on your ISP block the website. Try to use VPN to access the casino for verification of your main source of problem.

@Nakamoto roulette I’m surprised that your casino keeps running well without a single complaint on your service. I thought this casino will just come and go quickly. Nice to see more roulette table added since I last visit your casino.

Yes, the last time I worked after a day.  Now it stopped working again and I didn't do anything different. Both at home and at work are not working.

We restarted some services, video relays etc, we hope this has resolved the issue ? please let us know if it has not.

To get a faster response you can always email admin@nakamotoroulette.com to get a resolution quickly.

is nakamoto roulette down again?  i can't open the site.  BTW, why did the dealer too hurry spin the ball with players or not?? I mean I only have time to click rebet, not enough time to bet on the number.

I have tried to check the site (nakamotoroulette.com) and it is okay on here. I think there might have something wrong on your side either that is for your internet connection problem or block the site by you or by your government or by the site. You may use VPN if they support that type of service.

I do not think there is anything wrong with the website as I have access to it from my end. Everything is working perfectly well and alright. I logged in as well to check for myself. Maybe you should clear your cache and try logging again or possibly  something is wrong from your end. Check your login details again to know if it is okay. Then if your challenges persist, you can call the attention of the roulette customer care service for assistance. I believe they would attend to your challenges with utmost urgency.

IS this site down again?

Yeah, it seems so.

I can't access them and it just keeps on loading. I guess if this has been reported to them before that they've got some downtimes, they have to drill down where the problem is and it could be their server loading too slow.

But if no actions will be made, customers of theirs will find another one that has low rate to no cases of downtime.

The website is not opening but I don't know if it is from my side connection or IP or your server of domain. And since the site is not working from my end, I could not make any input for now until the site start working. Or it is that the downtime of the site from general or specific to my side only? So the only area I will like to say something is the area of KYC. I thought casinos can't operate in a decentralized system because of the limited control over gamblers or players. and from what you are saying it looks like your casino is a decentralized one because you made mentioned of respecting players privacy which will lead to no KYC. The BIG question is, will that be possible? And also as you said you will not share client data with anyone, and from my own point of view, the no kyc policy is limited from that clause. so the nature of anonymity is not possible again.

yup site is definitely down,  It has been downed for 2 days..

I have just opened the site and it seems okay. But the admin/op (nakaroulette) last active is July 23, 2023, 11:00:02 AM so I doubt about their service. Before investing in the site we have to think twice about it. Also as the op is not active the thread is not being moderated.

Just FYI, This casino is already for sale by the owner based on his last post. Here’s the sales thread of this casino https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457871.msg62473718#msg62473718 for anyone who’s interested to see it.

It’s really not advisable to deposit now that the owner is not interested anymore to continue his service. @OP should lock this thread since it’s not professional to continuously open the deposit while he is currently selling the casino to the highest bidder.

The site is live from my end here,  so why is @cavefar making this continues claim that he can't access the site and even said that the site has been down for 2 days in his comment above?

Could this be possible he is just trying to fud on the casino,  this could be an attempt to discredit NAKAMOTO ROULETTE but then this might be coming late since we don't just take someone's statement just like that with our own DYO which in this case have reveal that the site is active without any possible issues.

It might be unavailable on the site but not sure. Also for personal reasons s/he may do like this but if the site performs fine then there will not be any issue. Also, I am not positive about the site as the OP has been offline for a long time.

This site is down again for a week. Not sure if it open again.  Can't trust this site,  one day it will close for good and you lose all your money.

The site had been up and down for many months now from their operation and OP does not even care Updating here about the ongoing or when they will have maintenance , so that clears one thing already that they are not serious in this business yet there are people that seems to be playing still.
I am a roulette fan and I really love playing this game but I choose legit and not this kind of site operating without caring to their players.

Seems that you are an active player in this gambling site as you are the one who is asking about the site when it is down.
If you are not an active player, I'm wondering what is the reason for you to visit this site regularly?
If you are an active player here, I'm wondering what makes you play in this gambling site for months?
Just tried to visit the site few seconds ago but I cant access it "the site cant be reached"

I am confused, though.
I thought the owner of this service had publicly announced it was going to shut down, hadn't he?
If the owner of this website had declared his intentions to stop support and eventually close the service, then it does not make sense much sense people continued to deposit and gamble there. Also, obviously, it is also quite irresponsible from the owner/operator of the casino/website if he did not put some announcement in his mainpage and closed down the ability for users to further deposit their funds. That is what common sense tell us all, I guess, and what I have seen from other casinos when they decided to close for good: public announcement in their web and restriction to deposit. If that did not happen it would be kind of admisible to say there are some shady behavior or attempt to scam others going on.

Does anyone have official information on what is up with this casino, was there was an official date for closure or not? Was there any kind of official communication channels or social media for people to know from the staff?

This is a scam !!!!

Did they scam you?
How?
How much?
And when?

Open a scam accusation in the dedicated board with all the necessary proof. I still wonder why you continued using the casino despite the fact that it would go on and off from time to time. Not just that, even after the owner tried to advertise the sale of the platform, shouldn't that have been enough to Albert you to stop using the casino?

Are you a player of this casino?

Have seen your post above and it made me think that you are a regular player of this site as have cleared that it is having issues with operation , maybe its better for you to make specific thread at least in reputation to warning other players or those aspiring player to have not use the site until there is clarity from the representative and the team itself .
OP seems also not making updates here , and with always closing then that is something we must alert this forum.Help the forum mate , so other people who plays and have same experience from them will share their thoughts .

Your question to him does not make senses, he is asking you about what is happening to you that make you accuse this site as scam which is something quite normal in this forum. Although everything looks fishy in this site, but accusing them as scam without proof will not make people believe with your accusation. That's why he also suggests you to open scam accusation thread where you can show everything related to your accusation along with some valid evidences to prove that you are being scammed by this casino.

Do I need to be?

You said they are a scam which probably means they took your or someone else's money, or they have some serious red flags suggesting they are scammers, so show us how they scammed you and DT members will flag and tag them to avoid more victims. Is that too much to ask?

looking at your post history I assume the website is still down and this accusation you made is related to that? I am curious, why not look for another gambling site to play at? I mean, because based on your post history this is not the first time that this happened. there are far better gambling sites out there that you can gamble at, why stick to this one?

I'm also under the impression that the original owner has sold this site or playing to sold it or not sure if there has been a takeover already. I think play with this site early on, when it was just introduce in this community and fairly good although most of the time it was laggy and I guess it's because of my connection so I stop already.

And I was just surprised to see this thread being bump and then accused of cheating by someone.

In any case though, if that's what someone says, and I check it today it was down, then why not go and look for other casinos that has reputation from this community. There are a lot doing live roulette as well, so there are options @cavefar.

That's what the owner announced indeed in one of his last replies. His intention was to sell the website and its code and move to a new project.
The website is down, so I suppose this didn't work and no one was interested in buying it so he simply abandoned it.
Abandoning the website without updating this thread or making a proper announcement to warn potential users isn't cool at all. Personally, I won't invest in any project OP starts.

Ok, thanks for confirming and yes, I do agree, it doesn't look good as a business owner to sell his own product. Or if someone didn't bite and buy he should at least tell anyone here as this is the official ANN thread that he will have abandoned the project for good as no one is interested on buying it.

That is a bad practice and we do hope that if by chance a online gambling platform is to be shutdown for good, they will tell their members and gamblers so that no one will fall and looks like a scam site if he had people depositing and then was not able to play and confiscating their money for their own interest.

There has been no hint if the site was sold or not. Atleast on this thread, NakamotoRoulette.com - Selling to highest bidder! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5457871.msg62476948#msg62476948) we do not see any deal coming to the conclusion (as OP was asking too much money for this site). Maybe he has sold it offline, there is no way to know about it unless the OP announces it by himself.



Yes the site is not accessible and i also confirmed it here https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/nakamotoroulette.com?proto=https&www=1

It could be down for maintenance or anything or more probable chances are that OP has abandoned the project. If so, this is a totally unprofessional way to wind up a gambling site without any intimation.

Maybe he is not already playing in this site instead he is just checking the site activity and informing people here to prevent from engaging for the possible scam ending because OP's last post here happens many months ago and up to now there are no even  post from this site


But seeing this site doing now , I may support what he  said that it may not scam but will ends as scamming also  sooner or later.

Well, if the OP is not active on the ANN thread then that does not mean that the site is a scam. So it is not right to declare any site a scam site unless there are valid proofs of the site scamming people. By the way, this site is down and therefore it cannot scam while being offline  ;)


Again for any other site, if it is down, that again does not mean that it will come up to scam. There can be several reasons of being the site is down. However, since I see the OP was willing to sell his gambling site, that why give a red flag as even if the site comes up with a new owner, we never know if the new party/owners are trusted or not.

you are right mate and since OP is willing to sell the site then better to close it for a while or address this here so possible players may know that the site is under open sale and may try preventing playing for a while  until the update comes about new owner .
and you are also correct that we cannot call a site scam  when there are no much proof provided .though seeing issues here now I may not consider dealing with this site for now .

Now you mentioned, I just recalled he indeed wanted to sell this project to the higher bidder. Though, I am not sure whether he had managed to sell it or he changed his mind and continued to operate it by his own.
Considering the webpage stayed up after his selling announcement and there was no further update, it would have been fair to assume he managed to get an interested buyer who would keep Nakamotoroulette going indefinitely.

I don't know about you all, but if one is a developer seeking to win big by publishing games in the crypto community, one first is supposed to build a name for oneself and try to keep things as transparent as possible, shutting down a gambling site with no warning will not certainky help to attract people to the next project which OP tries to deploy. It is common sense, but alas, some people lack of it.

As long as they are transparent for telling their casino is for sell and they didn't do anything to hype other people then I think its fine since for sure people could still see the real situation happening in their casino. Also provably they new people would know that the casino is not operating the same as before since they can see it base on the discussion happening in this thread.

If someone successfully acquire like new management will handle this casino I guess much better if we give them a chance to operate a good business here and its up to them how they perform since if the new management will do any suspicious action or do scamming just like other people afraid of then provably they would not last long and they will be criticized everyday by a lot of people so they should do more better so we can get impressed since for sure with this they can slowly get some people to play on their casino.

It seems to me that OP must have spent a long time looking for clients and from what I see he must have spent the money he needed and put it in this casino in the hope that they would be a business that could change his life, but it didn't work out and it must have brought him a lot sadness, it probably must have been a very difficult decision that he made when selling the casino, but he needed to sell it at the price that would allow him to recover all the investment he made in that casino. The problem is that people who start this casino business rarely buy a casino from someone, a casino that has no popularity and no profit, people look at this as a bad business, they prefer to buy a casino that has many customers and makes a profit. , because this way it is easier for the new owner

have greater guarantees that you will make a profit. By this I mean that he probably spent a long time trying to sell this casino and didn't have any good proposals and being disillusioned he decided to give up and closed the casino and got it into his head that all the time and money invested in this casino will not return, So it was more feasible to forget that casino so as not to bring back bad memories. I hope you can do another business in the world that will make you profits. Casino business is something that involves a lot of investment and when success is not achieved the loss is very big, and the kind of thing that only the rich can afford to do

I didn't play there, tbh, and I can't find any accusation against them so it's not fair to call them a scam but, at least, people should avoid them should they come back online and restart their operations. Shutting down their services every now and then without prior notice is not a good sign.

Yes, this is not enough to call them a scam but taking the website down (regardless of the reason) without notifying their customers shows lack of professionalism. How can we trust any project they may run in the future!

If you have anything against this casino, you have to take a look at how scams are reported here in the forum and also support all your claims with evidence this way, it becomes very easy to spot what the casino has done to warrant them being called out at some point and also other members of this forum will also support you in that regards to push to get you a balance ground settlement.


Most of the time, we have seen some accusers who are just other casino agents and will want to tarnish the image of their competitors, so to avoid that, we always pay close attention to accusations that share good details.

Site closed without any notice.  No response to email. All money lost.  No need to prove anything to anyone.

Any allegation needs one proof at least, although the site is down/closed without any notice and you are the one here who seems to be a player in this casino and you are also the one who accused them as scam, you need to prove it.
The owner of this casino tried to sell the casino since last year and become inactive after that.
Lets say you are getting scammed here, do you have any good reason to play in this casino and keep your money in this casino while the owner is not active since many months as well as you noticed the fact that the site down for so many times before as per your complaints?

Why the freak you will deposit on this kind of website with crapy live games while there’s a lot of better alternative from a reputable casino. This casino website is already up for sale publicly so you don’t expect that this casino will be an established and there’s a chance that they will soon close once they find a buyer.

I’m surprised to your courage on trying this casino with real money without using any promotion which reputable casino already have. The live games of this casino doesn’t even an official one since the angle of the camera is pretty awful unlike live games provider like Evo and Pragmatic that has a table dedicated only for live games.

As I said, no need to prove. The fact that the site just shut down and no response to emails tells me that they are scammers.  You on other hand need to prove to us you are not associated with these scammers....