NAKAMOTO ROULETTE - open and live!

[ethereumhunter]

Another point to consider is the fat that you're not getting any license or what so ever and I really don't think it will be easy for you guys since people still want to gamble on a licensed platform and hope the game house still stay fair with KYC.

      This is where there will be problems, because of course the chances are also high that when other gamblers have an issue or problem, they have no claim and competition because the person who runs the gambling establishment does not have a license.

Casinos that don't have a license sometimes make us gamblers hesitate to play at the casino because often we come across casinos that don't have a license that will only cause problems for gamblers. The casino neither wants to pay winning gamblers the winning money nor does it ask the winner to KYC before processing their request to withdraw the money.

But if the casino doesn't have a license and can give gamblers what they want by not asking for KYC, that will be a plus for them. But after all, if the casino becomes big, it will attract the government's attention. Eventually, such casinos are required to have a license and the casinos will ask their users for KYC. But if the casino can think of not being so strict about implementing KYC, gamblers can likely accept it and probably still play at the casino.

[Daltonik]

Again, the absence of KYC leads to the fact that the online casino will never receive a license, therefore you will not have the opportunity to contact the licensing authorities if any problems arise, it is good if the casino has a large audience of users and, for example, verified Twitter or another social network, in general there is always a problem of choosing freedom or relative security.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think the site complies with many things that should always be correct in any casino, you have privacy, fast deposits and withdrawals, it goes with Satoshi's philosophy but before all this, how are they going to deal with the issue of licenses, No KYC ?, let me tell you that if you establish yourself as a good site, many players will tip their hats and praise you, because basically they have everything a player is looking for, and that is something that sounds very good, and the truth is that I would like it to be I gave them everything, if the project goes well they would have a great demand for players, not bad.

[BenCodie]

I must say that it's quite sad to see a new game with 725+ thread views and over 100 responses....but only 7 games played by 2 unique users. I suppose credit is due for the operator for not faking any statistics (as so many casinos do, I believe). I think that more effort should be put into marketing outside of this forum for it to gain some popularity. After some popularity, maybe it will gain some more players from here.

[Daltonik]

I must say that it's quite sad to see a new game with 725+ thread views and over 100 responses....but only 7 games played by 2 unique users. I suppose credit is due for the operator for not faking any statistics (as so many casinos do, I believe). I think that more effort should be put into marketing outside of this forum for it to gain some popularity. After some popularity, maybe it will gain some more players from here.

I think that all this is due to the limited choice on the online casino site where only live roulette is presented, it may be worth thinking about expanding the offers for slot games and not just limited to roulette, but the creators may have their own idea.

[nakaroulette]

I must say that it's quite sad to see a new game with 725+ thread views and over 100 responses....but only 7 games played by 2 unique users. I suppose credit is due for the operator for not faking any statistics (as so many casinos do, I believe). I think that more effort should be put into marketing outside of this forum for it to gain some popularity. After some popularity, maybe it will gain some more players from here.

I think that all this is due to the limited choice on the online casino site where only live roulette is presented, it may be worth thinking about expanding the offers for slot games and not just limited to roulette, but the creators may have their own idea.

Yes, we absolutely will be adding more games (both more Live Roulette tables and other games). We also of course plan to add slots.

So far we have not launched a real marketing campaign so this is an early announcement but the real marketing will begin soon enough.

[btc78]

I must say that it's quite sad to see a new game with 725+ thread views and over 100 responses....but only 7 games played by 2 unique users. I suppose credit is due for the operator for not faking any statistics (as so many casinos do, I believe). I think that more effort should be put into marketing outside of this forum for it to gain some popularity. After some popularity, maybe it will gain some more players from here.

I think that all this is due to the limited choice on the online casino site where only live roulette is presented, it may be worth thinking about expanding the offers for slot games and not just limited to roulette, but the creators may have their own idea.

Yes, we absolutely will be adding more games (both more Live Roulette tables and other games). We also of course plan to add slots.

So far we have not launched a real marketing campaign so this is an early announcement but the real marketing will begin soon enough.

so that is also the reason why you are not constantly active in posting here in your thread?
when will the real marketing starts and what are the concrete plan of releasing these?
maybe conducting advertising like signature and also some give away events?
as i see in the years that those are still the beneficial way though never expect a speed result about those instead this will take time .

[nakaroulette]

I must say that it's quite sad to see a new game with 725+ thread views and over 100 responses....but only 7 games played by 2 unique users. I suppose credit is due for the operator for not faking any statistics (as so many casinos do, I believe). I think that more effort should be put into marketing outside of this forum for it to gain some popularity. After some popularity, maybe it will gain some more players from here.

I think that all this is due to the limited choice on the online casino site where only live roulette is presented, it may be worth thinking about expanding the offers for slot games and not just limited to roulette, but the creators may have their own idea.

Yes, we absolutely will be adding more games (both more Live Roulette tables and other games). We also of course plan to add slots.

So far we have not launched a real marketing campaign so this is an early announcement but the real marketing will begin soon enough.

so that is also the reason why you are not constantly active in posting here in your thread?
when will the real marketing starts and what are the concrete plan of releasing these?
maybe conducting advertising like signature and also some give away events?
as i see in the years that those are still the beneficial way though never expect a speed result about those instead this will take time .

Sorry I didn't understand what you mean about not constantly active - I've been checking back here multiple times a day and I've been replying to everything I can (but I am limited by the rules to how many it allows me to reply to) - for example by replying to this, i am prohibited now from replying to those comments prior (which I would love to reply to!) because it would be a double-reply I am trying to answer everything I can. I also receive messages on here saying my posts/replies have been deleted according to those rules.... so I am limited. I guess it is a Newbie status thing ? maybe ?

The hope was to have a somewhat quiet announcement here from some core community players to gain feedback and suggestions, and then implement as much of that as we can before doing the main launch, so that it would be more effective and have a better shot. That is still the plan.

We will begin with mail out marketing lists and some other avenues next week and are considering a bigger campaign amongst the forums with bonuses/giveaways etc.

[shasan]

so I am limited. I guess it is a Newbie status thing ? maybe ?

No, it is not limited to newbies. It is a forum rule that no one should create multiple posts on a single row. If you want to reply to 10 people's questions/posts then you can do that in a single row. You can enable notification so that you may receive notification on email and/or telegram when there is any response to your thread.

[ingiltere]

We just launched our new Bitcoin/Lightning LIVE Roulette Site - www.NakamotoRoulette.com

Would appreciate feedback and comments or anything else the community has to say

-- Nakamoto Roulette

Name looks so simple yet so good. A tribute to Satoshi, some may see it offensive though. Not every Bitcoin enthusiast is familiar with gambling and it may cause bad image for them.
My observations:
Fonts look too big. As if it was made large to be accessible for the disabled. Is it your choice? It doesn't look professional.
"ALL Players get an Affiliate Link Code to share which nets them a whopping 50% of GGR (Gross Gaming Revenue) monthly for the lifetime of all player accounts they introduce." Is this lifetime referral earning sustainable?
We can't watch live videos without logging in. Is it done on purpose?
And last, do you have a license or not? I couldn't see it on the website.

[Daltonik]

We just launched our new Bitcoin/Lightning LIVE Roulette Site - www.NakamotoRoulette.com

Would appreciate feedback and comments or anything else the community has to say

-- Nakamoto Roulette

Name looks so simple yet so good. A tribute to Satoshi, some may see it offensive though. Not every Bitcoin enthusiast is familiar with gambling and it may cause bad image for them.
My observations:
Fonts look too big. As if it was made large to be accessible for the disabled. Is it your choice? It doesn't look professional.
"ALL Players get an Affiliate Link Code to share which nets them a whopping 50% of GGR (Gross Gaming Revenue) monthly for the lifetime of all player accounts they introduce." Is this lifetime referral earning sustainable?
We can't watch live videos without logging in. Is it done on purpose?
And last, do you have a license or not? I couldn't see it on the website.

I don't think I have nakamotoroulette.com there is a license, which can be understood from the lack of KYC, and yes, of course you are right about the UI, which requires significant refinement to look more attractive. For example, after logging in to the site and launching the game, roulette is launched in a pop-up window, it seems to me that it would be more convenient to see it continuing on the main screen, since it makes no sense to expand the window with the game due to low video quality.

[nakaroulette]

We just launched our new Bitcoin/Lightning LIVE Roulette Site - www.NakamotoRoulette.com

Would appreciate feedback and comments or anything else the community has to say

-- Nakamoto Roulette

Name looks so simple yet so good. A tribute to Satoshi, some may see it offensive though. Not every Bitcoin enthusiast is familiar with gambling and it may cause bad image for them.
My observations:
Fonts look too big. As if it was made large to be accessible for the disabled. Is it your choice? It doesn't look professional.
"ALL Players get an Affiliate Link Code to share which nets them a whopping 50% of GGR (Gross Gaming Revenue) monthly for the lifetime of all player accounts they introduce." Is this lifetime referral earning sustainable?
We can't watch live videos without logging in. Is it done on purpose?
And last, do you have a license or not? I couldn't see it on the website.

I don't think I have nakamotoroulette.com there is a license, which can be understood from the lack of KYC, and yes, of course you are right about the UI, which requires significant refinement to look more attractive. For example, after logging in to the site and launching the game, roulette is launched in a pop-up window, it seems to me that it would be more convenient to see it continuing on the main screen, since it makes no sense to expand the window with the game due to low video quality.

Yes, we do not intend to get a license as it will limit our player base and regions we can operate as well as introduce strong over the top (in our opinion) KYC requirements.

The issue with the game popping out in a separate window and/or being embedded in the page is mobile phones - it is extremely difficult to find a way that it works for both desktop AND mobile without essentially creating two wholly different sites and UI's - we are still trying to 'get this right' and it will evolve as we use different devices and try different ways to present it -- and yes we definitely need to choose between it being 100% best on one particular device/platform and it being accessible on ALL platforms/devices. Cross device/platform support is extremely finicky and what works in one environment doesn't work at all in another. Due to very limited screen space AND tiny betting positions we must have the game pop out into as near-full-screen-as-possible on mobile devices. That said, there is a good argument to detect the device type and switch methods accordingly however this is terrible for testing and reporting as it is yet another variable anyone should report when describing issues - so we chose purposefully to keep it simple and 'the same' on all devices, at least for now. This may evolve in the future.

Of course, we do not consider it 'low video quality' - as it is not a pre-recorded broadcast therefor can not take advantage of some of the compression other streams can (netflix ?) and each viewer essentially costs us money to deliver that live stream in low latency (as it must never be cached), it is as good or better than the industry standard in live casino broadcasts. There has always been a balance between video-quality/bandwidth-utilisation/realtime-latency/cost when doing this, even with the first versions designed to work down a 56k modem connection in the 1990's (of which I was also one of the founding developers at that time too).

Name looks so simple yet so good. A tribute to Satoshi, some may see it offensive though. Not every Bitcoin enthusiast is familiar with gambling and it may cause bad image for them.
My observations:
Fonts look too big. As if it was made large to be accessible for the disabled. Is it your choice? It doesn't look professional.
"ALL Players get an Affiliate Link Code to share which nets them a whopping 50% of GGR (Gross Gaming Revenue) monthly for the lifetime of all player accounts they introduce." Is this lifetime referral earning sustainable?
We can't watch live videos without logging in. Is it done on purpose?
And last, do you have a license or not? I couldn't see it on the website.

The design will evolve - for the time being we want a clear and concise uncluttered presentation which gets the message across and is ultimately as easy to use as possible.

Yes, 50% GGR is sustainable as it is NOT 50% of deposits or 50% of income, it is 50% of 'profit' generated over those introduced players. GGR is Gross Gaming Revenue, and it is calculated as BETS minus WINS. This means that it reduces our house edge on roulette by half, but it still a positive number. Most gaming sites offer an affiliate deal such as 25% or 30% or 40% (a few at 50% too) -- however they require you to jump through some hoops and register as an affiliate usually on a side-platform and usually come with long lists of rules and stipulations and in our opinion, is overly complicated. We figure let's just jump over all that and remove the hurdles and make EVERYONE an affiliate automatically AND remove all the complexity and just 'keep it simple'. Need more marketing codes ? just open more accounts so you can account your individual campaigns independently if you wish. etc.

Technically this does allow players to open an account and be an affiliate of themselves - and thats OKAY! -- yes it reduces our house advantage but overall it still works for us. We are thinking to make this message clear in the verbage on the page - that you may of course include your own betting activity therefor gaining a "50% cashback of any losses month to month". Why not.

We will make all the games playable for fun without logging in, yes.

Absolutely loving this feedback!

[GxSTxV]

It is evident that this casino is operating on a limited budget, as indicated by its somewhat outdated website and a few errors, such as the video tutorial on this page [1] linking to a different website, and no marketing that i have seen yet. Nonetheless I believe the casino's offering of no KYC services and instant withdrawals or deposits is noteworthy, as these are not commonly available at other casinos i may give it a try soon.

Could you please provide information on the origin of the tables? Were they acquired by the casino or rented from another company?

[1] : https://www.nakamotoroulette.com/?nav=about

[TribalBob]

gambling without KYC, that's one thing that's impossible, is there a guarantee that if someone wins a big win it will be safe for withdrawal,
because gambling websites usually do kyc even though it's only general data, there is little doubt about actually playing because your site is different from gambling sites that have existed in this forum from the start

[Hamphser]

gambling without KYC, that's one thing that's impossible, is there a guarantee that if someone wins a big win it will be safe for withdrawal,
because gambling websites usually do kyc even though it's only general data, there is little doubt about actually playing because your site is different from gambling sites that have existed in this forum from the start

Most of platforms nowadays might that announce that they dont ask out for some KYC which is good but since these places are regulated then expect that including into their terms and conditions on which
there's stated that it is really having the chance on asking if ever they would need to.This is why it would really be on your risks taking which site you are really that playing on.
If we do speak about new sites then it wont be bad on testing out new ones but of course the terms and conditions and simply its reputation isnt something that you could
ignore and check it out.

[ingiltere]

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Absolutely loving this feedback!

Thanks for clear answers to our questions.
No KYC is a good approach but no license is a no-go for most people. For this reason, they don't play large amounts until the casino proves itself and gain some reputation. People hesitate to play if they can't find an interlocutor when there is a problem. Even in very large casinos, problems sometimes arise and people cannot solve their problems with the support team. I think this is where you will have the most difficulty. It takes years to gain reputation and too easy to lose it.

[Mate2237]

Another point to consider is the fat that you're not getting any license or what so ever and I really don't think it will be easy for you guys since people still want to gamble on a licensed platform and hope the game house still stay fair with KYC.

      This is where there will be problems, because of course the chances are also high that when other gamblers have an issue or problem, they have no claim and competition because the person who runs the gambling establishment does not have a license.

Casinos that don't have a license sometimes make us gamblers hesitate to play at the casino because often we come across casinos that don't have a license that will only cause problems for gamblers. The casino neither wants to pay winning gamblers the winning money nor does it ask the winner to KYC before processing their request to withdraw the money.

But if the casino doesn't have a license and can give gamblers what they want by not asking for KYC, that will be a plus for them. But after all, if the casino becomes big, it will attract the government's attention. Eventually, such casinos are required to have a license and the casinos will ask their users for KYC. But if the casino can think of not being so strict about implementing KYC, gamblers can likely accept it and probably still play at the casino.

License might not really matter, but the matter is that how legit the casino company is? Even the casinos that registered with license are malfunctioning, they would allow to deposit but to withdraw is the big problem.

So if the op has not licensed his company but he does the right thing by not withholding gamblers wins and withdrawal is without obstruction then Nakamoto Roulette is a good casino site to gamble and introduce to friends. But whereby the withdrawal is having issue then it will have a bad name like others. KYC is not necessary in all casinos if the casino doing well. But if the KYC is necessary they should ask the user on time to avoid delay payment.

[CryptSafe]

Another point to consider is the fat that you're not getting any license or what so ever and I really don't think it will be easy for you guys since people still want to gamble on a licensed platform and hope the game house still stay fair with KYC.

      This is where there will be problems, because of course the chances are also high that when other gamblers have an issue or problem, they have no claim and competition because the person who runs the gambling establishment does not have a license.

Casinos that don't have a license sometimes make us gamblers hesitate to play at the casino because often we come across casinos that don't have a license that will only cause problems for gamblers. The casino neither wants to pay winning gamblers the winning money nor does it ask the winner to KYC before processing their request to withdraw the money.

But if the casino doesn't have a license and can give gamblers what they want by not asking for KYC, that will be a plus for them. But after all, if the casino becomes big, it will attract the government's attention. Eventually, such casinos are required to have a license and the casinos will ask their users for KYC. But if the casino can think of not being so strict about implementing KYC, gamblers can likely accept it and probably still play at the casino.

License might not really matter, but the matter is that how legit the casino company is? Even the casinos that registered with license are malfunctioning, they would allow to deposit but to withdraw is the big problem.

So if the op has not licensed his company but he does the right thing by not withholding gamblers wins and withdrawal is without obstruction then Nakamoto Roulette is a good casino site to gamble and introduce to friends. But whereby the withdrawal is having issue then it will have a bad name like others. KYC is not necessary in all casinos if the casino doing well. But if the KYC is necessary they should ask the user on time to avoid delay payment.

I can attest the fact that the casino gave 1000 sats to play for free but they have no option for kyc which I believe most gamblers here like and would prefer it to be that way. However, the casino is not a licensed casino which would cast more doubt on their credibility as to satisfy customers to the maximum as they claim to do but if they can deliver on their promises as they have said, I see no reason why they should be doubted and moreover, most casinos claiming to have license to operate are busy strapping gamblers of their hard earned resources with excuses of being a defaulter and possibly cheating claims against their customers which does not go down well with gamblers. If this casino can deliver as they have promised I think they can go far in existence as a casino wether licensed or not as long as the gamblers deemed them trusted as a result of their transparency and accountability, they would measure up in good competition with other casinos.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Actually having an affiliate link on signature space is allowed and pretty normal that other casino is doing to track the number of clicks from the forum. Questioning it is a bit absurd since he is not spamming the link on his post.

I’m more concerned on how we can verify how genuine this casino to be affiliated to the physical casino since they don’t have license or any legal proof that will make them an official partner.

yes actually I don't mind the referral link, just a few questions and answering doubts that OP is part of this site's project and doesn't consider the referral link in his signature as spam and something that is prohibited, OP shouldn't need to delete the signature affiliate link if is indeed used to track traffic from this forum. i think the problem is cleared up now OP has explained clearly so there is no doubt for anything. 

Well, in view of all this, there are things that are allowed in the forums and others that are not, the reference links under the signature is something normal,here the important thing is to realize that the traffic that is generated in the forum is always legitimate, most casinos know that the advertising that is done here in the forum is the most authentic than that of social networks,where the followers of some are not organic,mostly  it is all due to bots, so when the use is made correct forum you get the best profits.

[goldkingcoiner]

No regulations, no license, no KYC.... Is your casino decentralized, open source and autonomous? If not, then I would be very hesitant to deposit any money there. Not only does this scream "red flags" all around but even if you were not planning on something shady like stealing your users funds or scamming them out of money, what happens if it turns out that you are operating outside your governments laws? What happens if the law finds you and shuts you down? What happens to the funds?

Sorry, as much as I hate KYC, a casino with a license is more trustworthy to me.