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..Note:.. This campaign will be closed once we approve 100 applications. You will be selected in batch. Each batch will have a deadline to submit the review. Please do not miss the deadline or your review will be rejected.

..Todo:..
You should at least create a Mixin Safe, make a deposit and send a transaction to make a complete review. ..Click here for user guide.. (https://support.mixin.one/en/category/mixin-safe-n3u479/)
- Prepare Owner Wallet:  Ledger, Bitcoin Core, Bitbox, Coldcard, Mornin key, etc.
- Prepare Members Wallet: Get Mixin Messenger
- Set Mixin Messenger PIN
- Add Mixin Messenger Contacts: Please ask all safe members to add each other as a contact in Mixin Messenger, including yourself.
- Set Emergency Contact: Please ask all safe members to set an emergency contact in Mixin Messenger, including yourself.
- Sign in Mixin Safe
- Write a constructive review that worth to receive 0.003 BTC of your experience using Mixin Safe.

..Terms:..
- You need to be at-least Full Member+ and need to have at-least 50+ lifetime earned merit.
- You need to apply with a Bech32 address. Please start your review once you are accepted and paid.
- Please submit the review within the deadline assigned to you or your review will be rejected and you will need to refund the payment that was sent
- I and Mixin Safe team reserve the right to reject any application, even review.
- To active Mixin Messenger, you can use a throwaway phone number
- This review will be conducted using First Come First Serve method however, you need to wait for me to accept your application.
- No alternative accounts please. If found you entered more than one account, you will be tagged
- No AI or ChatGPT contents, if found you will be asked for a refund and will be banned from any kind of signature and review campaign.

..How to apply:.. Post the following information.

..How to submit the review:..
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2. Fill up the forum with the link of the review so that I can easily locate your review

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Batch 1 & 2 full.

Continue applying for rest of the batch.

Cheers,

Congratulations! You are accepted in Batch 1 and payment has been sent. Please read the following note.
We are expecting review from you in time. Looking forward to some great contents about Mixin Safe.

Cheers,

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Congratulations! You are accepted in Batch 2. On 24th, you are expecting your payment and your review week will start from 25/07/2023 to 31/07/2023 UTC .

..Please check spreadsheet.. (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WhjD_9qDurJf0cjwYkmgtJ9yklFxWieFrgW9bPiRfVY/edit?usp=sharing)

We have a "Reserved list" which means in any case if we do not have enough application at the end of the campaign (after selecting applications for Batch 5), then we may consider your applications. Right now the reason is, we are not much confident about your forum presence so we don't want to take risk, after all - the payment is being sent before we receive the task.

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Edit: Deadline year fixed

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Hello Royse777 , I think you has written 2026 instead of 2023. It seems that you have made a mistake in writing . if everything is ok then 3 years time for review  ;D

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Welcome to the campaign.

Batch 3 is full now. Batch 4 is in progress.

Please continue applying.

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I was going to apply earlier but I did not find the review campaign yesterday. anyway...


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I will be able to make the review only after 25th of July, if that's a problem, feel free to ignore the application.

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Okay here’s my brief review of the service. This review includes the Mixin messenger, Mornin Key, and the Mixin Safe (browser). I will start in creating the mixin messenger..

Mixin Messenger App

Registration
I know any messenger app uses phone numbers to register but im highly discouraged to register when it requires to use your mobile number, even though you can use dummy numbers for this test. Upon checking the FAQ, you can’t recover your mixin messenger account if you forgot the pin, if you forgot it then eventually your mixin safe account will be useless.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/20/nAyaf.png

So the only use of the mobile number is to get the code for registration. If its the only the case why not use email?
Upon registration, i don’t know if it’s only me, it takes me several minutes but never received the verification code for registration even after tapping the resend button many times. So i need to use other mobile number for it to work.
Suggestion: Use an email address for registration option.


Adding Deposit Address
I choose BTC for adding deposit address, what i noticed is it has this note about the destination tag. I know some alts have this kind of thing like XRP, but if the coin doesn’t have this kind of thing like bitcoin why not just remove the note about destination tag or ID to avoid confusion. Yes there is a note to use “No Memo” but it still adds confusion.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/20/nAEGc.jpeg


This Bitcoin logo with an amount is a deposit message when i received the funds. But it looks like nothing, much better if it was detailed. Like, you have received an amount of X.XXXX BTC and you can see it on the “Team Mixin” chat,
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/20/nAIyP.jpeg
Suggestion: Remove the destination tag note for coins doesn’t required destination tag.


Sending Transaction
I noticed that you can’t send/transfer funds if you didn’t add an address, it will only works to send to your added address and your added contacts.
And there is no option to send to someone’s address pasting from your clipboard directly. I know there are clipboard malwares out there to be aware of but having this kind of feature is recommended for easy sending for good user experience.

Suggestion: Add a feature of directly pasting an address to easy sending transaction.

Transaction fee:
I don’t really like the fee structure here its too huge, at least it has a dynamic fee slider or can be edited manually. I paid 0.00028 BTC fee for an amount of 0.0001935 BTC.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/20/nAsKq.jpeg

On “Transactions” page after i withdraw, I saw a 2 kind of row data, why the “Fee” is on different row on the “Withdraw” row, its the same transaction and it should be on the same row data and the same page.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/20/nAtT5.jpeg
Suggestion: Sending using the wallet address from clipboard directly and the Withdraw row/page details should only be one.

App Settings
-Account
Since the ”Delete My Account” is available, why not have something like on Telegram of having the Deleting the account “if away” for 1 year, 6 months, etc.
Adding “Power Saving Mode” is also recommended to remove unnecessary sounds and transitions/animations in the future and adjust the app’s brightness or in reading mode as not all smartphones have this feature.
Add or/and hide online status.

-Chat
Adding a reaction to a chat is a thing now in every messenger app, so maybe adding it make the interaction of the users be more quick and easy to react than replying an emoji.

-Data and Storage Usage
Add to clear cache feature instead of going to phone’s settings.


Summary
The app looks great, simple and it work its purpose but have to consider some things to improve regarding the in-app wallet. There’s no big issue or suggestions on the chat features just minor ones. Also, I like the deleting the chat feature that you can delete a chat only for you and for everyone. Adding a chat reaction will be great as well.

Mornin Key
I used Mornin key since my ledger nano s has a screen problem and need a screen replacement. My bitcoin core in my external harddrive is outdated and it will take days before it can finish to download all the blocks so…. Well, I’m a bit suspicious of this app, i checked their website (https://mornin.one/) it has no social media information, no contact information, no privacy policy, no terms of service, it’s just new. There’s no information regarding them aside from app store and google play store. And no reviews on play store and just +1 downloads only. Well, i was surprised that it has a fee of $1~ish before you can download it in google play store.
So if this is a product of Mixin safe team and no permission is allowed in the app, then i guess its fine. I have no problem of creating an account, mnemonic phrases is backed up as well.

Mixin Safe Website
After visiting it on the first place, its presence and feels is not a crypto related wallet or crypto-related site. I prefer the web3-like, dex/dapp websites looks, like the https://mixin.network looks.
It is not a mobile responsive as well. The mixin messenger screenshots in the https://safe.mixin.zone/start is outdated and need for an update like the settings. In the updated version of Mixin messenger the setting icon is on the upper right of the app, not in the lower part of the app.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/20/nAvsG.png


Mixin Safe (Browser)
I prefer the browser instead of the desktop mode because why not? Well, the same as the main website, the dashboard is not mobile-responsive, the team should consider that there are people prefers using mobile devices than on desktop so having a responsive web app is much better.

Home/Dashboard
Is the red banner can be remove temporarily? I know its still a beta software, no need to have it every time you access the site.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/20/nATad.png

Login
I encountered something like I can’t login and it shows an error that the site is “in maintenance” in red text this shows in the mixin messenger after scanning the qr code also an “Invalid Link” message but after refreshing the browser and scan the qr again, it works.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/20/nAP7I.jpeg

Creating Safe
Connecting Mornin Key is not a problem, from creating a new Safe, scanning and approving the qr code via mornin key, etc. I paid using the Mixin Messenger app since i have a balance in the Messenger wallet.

Receiving and Sending
Receiving funds looks like confusing to me, i need to go to the “Safes” tab first, clicking the ellipses icon button then “Received Deposit” then copy the address.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/20/nAJtZ.png

Or in the “Transactions” tab -> “Received Deposit” button but when you click the “Next” button it shows this.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/20/nAY7D.png

I don’t know why I should put an address and other details there when I just need the deposit address. I bet it’s too constrained just to copy the deposit address, why not show it in the Dashboard/Home tab and put a something like a “Received” and “Send” button, choose a Safe, then copy the address or send a transaction.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/20/nAVL8.jpeg

After I deposit my Mixin Safe account, I got a notification in Mixin messenger chat, so i checked the one in the browser and it doesn’t show until i refresh it, that means the app is not in real-time processing in the background.
The sending is smooth actually, it notify on Mixin Messenger for scanning/signing the qr code for approval, as well as when approving/signing transaction using the Mornin Key.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/20/nHBgj.png

Summary
So far that’s the only process I see on the current state of the app. The site layout is so simple and looks okay to me. It just needs some UX fix, especially the send and receive button I mentioned. Fees is always huge, best thing is to use the premium plan, only if you regularly use the app to save fees. RBF is not available in multisig wallet which is meeh.

Multisig wallet is really awesome and the best recommended way when it comes to security and safety of making a transaction. Well, the “more” best way is have the other device in offline mode to sign the transaction. Practically, a service that offers a subscription fee will not ring a bell on the long run although there are already some paid services offers such multisig wallet but i rarely heard them. Usually, people choose free and open source wallets options.

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Mixin Review:
Mixin Messenger:
I downloaded the App from the Google Play Store using the link provided directly from the Mixin Safe.
After installation, I opened the app and a new page that required me to agree and continue, which I did without reading the terms and conditions.

A mobile number is required in order to complete the sign-up. I used one of the old lines and inserted it on the same gadget on which Mixin Messenger is installed. I typed in the number correctly and clicked on the send code. It took a complete countdown of seconds before the code letter arrived. Like other apps that make use of mobile number verification, the code could have detected itself and verified itself automatically, but here for the Mixin, I have to go back to my message box and copy the code, and the paste option was not also enabled on the app, so I have to type it manually.

Pin set-up: this is more than the usual way of setting up pins on other apps; here, Mixin Messenger asks for confirmation three times after the first pin input, which makes it four times just to make sure the person is sure of the pin they selected. And the Pin is 6 digits long, which is enough to form a safe pin for oneself.

Contact: adding contacts is very simple, as with just a friend's username or phone number, you will be able to add and start messaging the person, which I was able to do for one person.

Emergency contact: This could be used for access recovery when the original account owner lost access to their account by misplacing their mobile number. I added one contact to my emergency contact list, which requires me to get a 4-digit code from the emergency contact, which will be used to verify if you truly are in contact with the person.
 
Mixin Safe: I tried connecting with my Mobile phone, but it was not working. It needs two active devices for this process to work, as there is no manual login unless you scan a QR code.

I opened it on my PC and used Mixin Messenger to scan through the QR code provided by the Mixin Safe.
Authorization: authorization was requested from my Mixin Messenger app, which requires me to input my 6-digit password to confirm if I am the one truly connecting the Mixin safe.
 
Safe: I used the create new safe command as instructed, and I gave it a specific name that I can remember. And used the Bitcoin network as the preferred Network to use.

Owner control used: Mornin Key.
I followed the download link dropped on the website and accessed the morning key on my Play Store (the app was not free; I had to pay an amount approximate to $0.58 in my local currency for the purchase of the mornin key). Set up the Morni key with password protection and write down the 12 phrases generated in a safe place.
 
Security set up: I selected Mornin Key as the preferred private wallet control.
A QR code was generated, which I scanned in order to link the Mornin key with my Mixin safe.
A confirmation page was sent to my morning key, on which the details were shown, including the network selected and the name of the page that I was to confirm. An option to either approve or Reject was also shown. I checked the information carefully and accepted the authorization.
 
Members Page:
The next page was where I was required to choose the number of people I wanted to be available before the transaction could be approved. I have a minimum of 1 person, including me, and a maximum of 5 team members, and all their private keys will be needed to approve a transaction.
 
I chose two, one for myself and one for a close friend who is close to me. I used his phone to download the Mixin app and set it up with his mobile number.
 
I tried adding him as a member, but it was not working. I have to go back to the Mixin Messenger App and add the contact of the person as a contact, and also on my account settings, I included him as part of my emergency contact. The other person also needs to approve me as part of his contact list before I can add him as part of my emergency contact list. After the emergency contact process.
 
I went back to the mixin safe and tried to search for the newly added member, but it was not showing. I had to go back and refresh my mixin safe dash board before it was able to appear.
 
Threshold: Choose two members, which are myself and the invited trustee.
("A warning message was issued: attention! 2/2 multi-signature means that the others cannot transfer any assets but can apply for rescue after the plan expires, once someone loses control of the account. The warning made me increase my number of trustees to 3, out of which I will need two members to confirm my transaction before it can go smoothly.
 
Confirmation of the new safe page:
A preview of everything from my number of selected members to the safe name, the network selected, and the status of the safe, which I have to confirm to be sure that the information is correct before I can proceed with the plan upgrade.
 
Upgrade page:
I selected the Standard plan, which suits my safe setup as it's only limited to 3 members and I have 1 free transaction to test run the page.
 
I was redirected to the MixinPay page, where I have numerous cryptos listed as a means of payment.
 
I selected mixinpay+wallets as a means of payment:
 
I went back to my Mixin Messenger app and sent some BTC into the wallet, which, because of network congestion, took several minutes to arrive on the Mixin Messenger app. But why was the confirmation going on the blockchain, showing pending confirmation? I could still view the incoming transaction using the Mixin Messenger app, which showed me 0/3 of the confirmation, which is a result of the deposit not passing a single confirmation yet on the Blockchain. After three network confirmations since my deposit was done using Bitcoin, there was a notification sent to my Mixin app by the Mixin team with the approximate amount deposited.
 
I connected my Mixin messenger to Mixin Pay; the default option was ERC-20 PUSD, which I changed to Bitcointalk Network. The exact amount I was to pay was shown, and without delay I agreed to it and approved the transaction using my Mixin 6-digit pin. It took less than 2 minutes, based on my network, to confirm the transaction, which means a Bitcoin deposit could have taken much longer because of confirmation, so I guess it was an in-chain transaction. There was a payment success receipt generated after the payment page, and an option to input my email for it to be sent was also available, which I used, and it was sent within a minute.
 
Going back to the Mixin Safe dashboard, a Welcome note was shown to me about payment success, and it will take about 1 minute to complete the process. I waited for more than 5 minutes, and the window still remained the same. The status of the account finally changed to created after 48 minutes, according to the time at which I received a wallet creation notification on my Mixin Messenger.
 
I generated a new deposit address using the Bitcoin network, which was the only network I found available since that's what I chose when I was creating the safe.
 
Trying to send my Bitcoin to Mixin Safe using my Mixin Messenger App, the fee is too high for every transaction; it's about charging me 0.00054 BTC, which is worth $16 as of that time. There is no custom means of reducing the charges to at least be close to what is being charged on the app.
 
I used my private wallet to fund the mixin Safe.
Which went smoothly as normal BTC network charges.
 
During the withdrawal process:
Since I selected three members, I was required to approve the transaction as member one using my Mornin Key application. I tried to withdraw without the notice of the other members, but it was not possible. The withdrawal was a success after two approvals from my three selected members.
 
Conclusion and suggestions:
 
The three-signature security is amazing, as it is one of the top wallet security features I have come across, and it's good for group fund savings since one person with one access can't be able to withdraw the entire fund without the approval of the next member, depending on how many members were selected.
 
Since Mixin Messenger was what was used to access the mixin safe, an optio should be provided for funding as well, since it will be On chain to enable users to reduce the amount of fee that is to be used in making deposits because the $16 fee for BTC and $20 fee for ERC-20 is really too high that no one will want to make use of the app knowing that there are other cheaper options out there.
 
Support: The support is really poor, as since I registered on Mixin Messenger, I have not been able to get a single reply to all my questions.
 
Messenger: The messaging came very fast, as in normal Messenger, which is really interesting to me.
 
Mixin wallet: sending between users is free, and the transaction arrives immediately after it has been approved from the sender's end.
 
Question:
1. During my plan selection, I saw something like paid recovery and inheritance. Does this mean that if I completely lose access to my mixin safe with the plan I have selected, the team will help me recover my funds? If yes, then we can say that the system is not entirely decentralized as data is being stored in your database.
 
2. On Mixin Messenger, during deposit, I notice there is an asset key generated for every network that was successfully funded. What's this asset key for? Can I use the key to make a withdrawal using another wallet as a private key?
 
My experience with both Mixin Messenger and Mixin Safe is amazing, as I have gained first-hand knowledge of what's called three signatures.
 
The app is easy to use, but to some point, without the provided guidelines, it requires someone with a little cryptographic or technical knowledge.

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MIXIN Safe REVIEW


App Required: Mixin, Momin key
Fee: 2$) without gas fee
Device: Smartphone Android Version 13

Background:
Previously I reviewed Whirlwind mixer and Utopia P2P ecosystem but I found this one very complicated. This project is combination of both, here you will be able to chat (voice,audio,image)  and at the same time you can send and receive btc and many other tokens in the app.

Main Goal
 Our main review is about Safe btc to store our private keys in three place. If we lost our private key then using Mixin safe we can recover it. This required two Apps (Mixin and Mornin key) so first we will talk little about these two apps and will do some basic works in these apps which is mandatory for Mixim Safe.

Mixin(Main App) (Main app ).
Playstore review:
Playstore rating is 4.2 and downloaded more than 50k but people is not happy with Ethereum fee and this why so many bad reviews at the start page. team should check this and try their best to keep their community satisfied.

Installation:
I downloaded the app from the playstore and installed its quite easy and just sample as downloading installing other apps.

Registration:
I am really disappointed to see that this app required (Mandatory) mobile number verification and without mobile number you cannot use it just like Whatsapp and telegram. anyway i used my own number to verify but verification code doesn't arrived, i resend but same problem then i changed number and Smartphone also but code not arrived. I asked telegram moderator about this and he told me to contact customer support through mail, Mail team  assure me that he contacted with sms operater and it will be fixed soon, unfortunately it is not fixed yet

At last i contacted my indian friend to give me otp code for verification and he trust me. he send me otp in 3 second which mean our country network sms verification has some issue which should be solved.

Customer support;
Telegram moderator is too fast and doing his job properly when he online. Mail support team replied me after ten minutes  and second time after 20 minutes and third time they replied after a long time.
Customer support is not live 24/7 which show how poor their support team so. I am trying to contact last night through telegram, mail, online chat but i recieved reply after 8 hours

I think the support team members are less and not doing right jon  I will recommend making the mail team tight to help new users with quick reply.

Creating Pin
After registration the app asked for PIN which is Mandatory to recover your data and  also creating wallet. After creating successful pin Wallet also created. I noticed that if we forgot Pin and have no access to phone number then we never recover our Mixin account. I think this is good option for security.

Wallet:
Lot of token available in the Mixin built in wallet including major currencies BTC, LTC, BNB and many more. sending and receiving is easy just like Trustwallet but here you could sent through contact also

There is two options available when you send token
Contact:
I like the idea of sending tokens to other Mixin users through the contact option
Address:
For sending address first you have to add address which is been option for using any address in future.

Adding contact:
For chatting with friends and family adding contact is necessary. I opened account in second mobile and added contact through scanning bar code. Its quite fast and contact added with name set by users. we can also manually add name to any contact.

we can send a token, voice call, voice message,camera, photos, files, contact and location just like whatsapp but here you can files in large size. I tried to send 1 gb files for checking purpose and it started to sent. I totally satisfied with chatting service and no issue here.

Recommendation: I will recommend adding an edit message option and also delete for everyone option (in case of sending wrong files by mistake). adding reaction will make chat more advance.

Group chat: This feature is best to attend all friend at once. family and friends can use this app to enjoy this feature.

Emergency contact: This is much needed option in case any problem ( operator issue, no access) occurs with your phone number. I added my second ID as a emergency contact.

Mixin Desktop:
we can also use Mixin App in desktop but we need to scam through mobile. This is same as Whatsapp web.

Recommendation: It will be better to launch our own app for Desktop where we can login without mobile just like telegram.

Mornin key:  
This app is required for signing purposes and our one private key will be saved here. This app is available in the Playstore and apple store which means this app is secured. We can use hardware wallets instead of Mixin. Because I have no Open source hardware wallet therefore i used the Momin key wallet for signing purposes. Playstore asks for $1 to download but don't worry you can download the APK file absolutely free(I downloaded apk files as google play needs a credit card and I don't want to use it for google play purposes). Momin key registration is very easy just like creating a wallet and writing a phrase and keeping it in a safe place.

Now when we set both Mixin app and Mornin app , Now its time for keeping our private key secure with Mixin safe so let's proceed to Mixin safe

To use Mixin Safe we need Mixin app we discussed above and Momin Key. Opening site will give you two options
Get started and Signin
Get Started: This is tutorial to setup Mixin messenger (we already did all the work). after completing the tutorial you will see the sign-in button at the end

Sign in: In this option the site will give unique Bar code to scan through Mixin scan option. Thanks to Mixin team for providing feature of upload to scan through gallery picture. I just took screenshots and upload through scan option in mixin and Its worked well.

after scanning, my account opened in web.
Network and name:
Now we have to enter any name. two token is available at that time BTC and LTC. These two ks are widely used for long term holding purposes and I think no other token required at this time to be added. In the future new tokens could be added with community demand.

Owner:
now second main work is to sign in through own wallet (Minin wallet in my case). Here site provide Bar code to scan through Minin wallet. Unfortunately Monin wallet has no upload option in scanning and i took screenshots and then send to other mobile and then scanned.

Member:
In this option you can add number member to give them access to this safe. These member will just approve transaction and cannot make new transaction. for this option we should add any contact (family recommend). I already did previously so added my other account contact and keep number of member 2. we can add from 1-5.

Summary:
 In this page we would be asked for upgrade which is mandatory because mixin safe service is not free. There are three package which could be seen in image clearly. I bought a 2$ package and the second time i checked the 10$ package was reduced to 8$ which is very best that it's not charging whole. after clicking on the upgrade plan I referred to Max Pay site and Thanks God buying through crypto is available. I paid through LTC and my plan was upgraded very fast. After doing all this my safe created and i have been given btc address. Now if i lost my private key, I could recover easily.

https://i.ibb.co/6FZqkKh/Screenshot-2023-0721-103707.jpg

Deposit BTC:
I start depositing btc after creating safe btc wallet. deposit address option is not available in main page and i have to Click Safes>Active safe>Recieve deposit which is lengthy process. I will recommend to add fast process for deposit option. copy wallet option is available which is very good to avoid extra words while copying btc address.

FIRST DEPOSIT:
I deposited 0.00297 BTC from Binance and after six verification amount not added. I was very worried that I might have sent the btc to the wrong address but everything was ok from my side and address was correct then I check btc explorer and payment was successfully recieved but not showing in Mixin safe.
I contacted telegram moderator, online chat and mail and recieved reply after hour, after sending all necessary information he send my case to team. my BTC arrived after 9 hours.
https://i.ibb.co/DzHrwcp/Screenshot00021.jpg


The reason for this issue is because i deposited btc before the btc address through active and live chat support told me that they fixed this issue for all users.
Team should check , why its not credited on time. This kind of incident cause lot of trouble for customers.

below is my transaction proof
https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qx53h8g2p5qqmzdkdzz86e8hnk67wv8lpzm0tfwendryuxwtnh3eq7ay4wx

Time of My btc fund added to Mixin safe = 04 AM UTC 21 july 2023

Send BTC:
Now to send btc we have to go for same lengthy process: Safes> active safe>new transaction
if we have different safes then we can choose anyone we want to withdraw from it. This is good feature that we can add multiple safe and each safe  work as our own wallet.

It required two Mixin confirmation because i selected two members when i created safe and one Mornin key sign. This option is very beneficial. If any one get access to our private key, he cannot steal our fund without confirmation. I love this security so much.

https://i.ibb.co/YdzJ9sZ/Screenshot0001.jpg



Important point and recommendations
1: The overall process goes smoothly and there is a little bit of confusion for the newbie as the process is not easy .

2: Mixin safe Fee is low because the main purpose of this safe wallet is to use for long term holder. Fee= 1 PUSD= 1 credit for one Transaction

3: Customer support is active and friendly when online but sometimes they are inactive for many hours which should be improved.

4: Mixin messenger Playstore review is not good. Fee should be reduced to use messenger for wallet purpose without burden of big fee.

5: Mixin messenger Chat required advance options like edit, delete messages for every one and reaction. sending big files is supported which is plus point.

6: This is best decentralized way to recover the key because the recovery key will be locked and will be unlocked when any address remains inactive for more than one year so we cannot say that the mixin team has access to our private key also
https://safe.mixin.zone/how-it-secures

7: Adding emergency contact is best option for recovering and i will give 100/100 points for adding this feature which is safe and easy.

8: transaction speed is fast and there is no pending or other problem.


VIDEO TUTORIAL:
i think it will be better to add video tutorial also of whole method. I am working on it , if I succeed i will share link here too.

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MY REVIEW

USING MORNIN KEY TO CREATE MIXIN SAFE.

INSTALLATION;

Mornin Key:
The download of Mornin Key was giving me a little difficulty since I would have to purchase the app from the App Store for just 0.58$ and my credit card has issues, so I first installed the TestFlight to be able to access the mornin key for free and both installation went swiftly and my mornin key was accessible.

Mixin Messenger:
The mixin Messenger doesn’t required purchase or another app to get it installed, so it’s downloading and installation was easy.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nn201.jpeg

REGISTRATION;

Mixin Messenger:
The registration was smooth just that it required an active number for verification code, which would have been lot easier if it was just an email but I get that the contact to be share with is why it was a number.
I registered with a number and got the four digit verification code instantly from VERIMSG which popped up my clip board instantly, I typed in the code since I don’t like copy pasting this kind of things and it went on smoothly.
The app required a pin setup which was a six digit code and on 4 confirmations I got it set up and the team Mixin Bot was created, which contained some Mixin Messenger guidelines.

Mornin Key:
The morning key was an easy set up requiring me to just set up a six digit passcode and also as a wallet, the recovery seed (12 words) were backed up.

Mixin Safe:
Upon setting up the Mixin messenger and Mornin Key. The Mixin safe required that me to scan the QR code. So I accessed the dashboard Board using my Laptop browser and then I scanned the code with the messenger. Immediately it login successfully on my laptop and also created a Mixin safe service bot on the phones messenger.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nZxcl.jpeg

SAFE SETUP
So I proceed to safe to create a new safe and used bitcoin as the network. I opened my mornin key from my phone and immediately scanned the QR code to prove my ownership and the created wallet appeared on my morning key with my private key which was ECDSA key type and also appeared on the Mixin safe Dashboard on the laptop.

Upgrade plan Setup:
I choose the standard plan and multiple payment options showed up but I opted to use the USDT(Bep 20). So I made a deposit of 6 usdt including the transaction fee. The deposit arrived just within 60 seconds. And the 1.98usdt meant for the plan was deducted and was left with 3.7usdt. So just to clear my curiosity of maybe a refund will be done I proceed to get my refund back. I was asked to add the mix pay bot on my Mixin Messenger and send my refund code to it but there was no response what do ever.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nZBtD.jpeg

Safe Activation and Transaction:
The activation was swift with just the QR code scanning using the mornin key needed.

Deposit;
I proceed to make a BTC deposit since it was the network I choosed and that was the only one available. I wanted to make the deposit scanning a the address QR code but mine wasn’t scannable, so I copied the address instead and made a deposit. The deposit arrived after some minutes with just one confirmation enough to receive it on my safe wallet, with the coin named safebtc.

Withdrawal;
I then proceed to make another transaction this time a withdrawal of the funds that arrived. I made use of the bitcoin address on the messenger as the recipient address and then it wanted members approval and after their approval was done by scanning with their MIXIN messenger. I was asked for the owners approval which I rejected to see if the mornin key would actual reject the members approved transaction and it got the rejected which actually shows the strength of the multi sig.
I then proceed to make a proper transaction and after following the process through and the owner also approved the transaction it arrived in my wallet but would only be accessible after 3 confirmation. I like the fact that it was visible on my Mixin messenger like a pending transaction before the 3 confirmations, this will actual give you the assurance that the coin was sent to the correct address.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nZgcf.jpeg

Summary:

The site UI and the app was actually ok. The fact that it you can also switch to dark mode is fine.

I would advice the use of email address in the sign up and also try to be able to copy the dashboard link from to messenger to safe the stress of using two device.

The Mixin messenger doesn’t require passcode every time I wanted to login into the app, it just open up freely (or maybe it was set up). It should be have such feature just like how the mornin key requires passcode for every single login to the app. It is necessary since the messenger shows your funds on the wallet and some your contact chats.

Mixpay bot
Also the mixpay bot didn’t even respond to my request of refund after overpaying for the standard upgrade, I feel like a way should be paved to get refunded back or if there is no refund, there shouldn’t be head on about getting it by chatting with the bot which didn’t respond.

Overall it was a smooth and straightforward experience i love the multi sig initiative. But I also noticed that one could actually set this up with out having anyone to add as a member just that it defeats the whole multi sig purpose.

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MY REVIEW ON MIXIN SAFE

FirstI would like to clear that although at first I was very skeptical the service because of the much requirement of apps needed to actually activate or use the service but after successful using I think the service is kinda cool though.

So firstly,
I downloaded the mixing messenger app from playstore and that process was smooth and also the mornin key app but for some peculiar reason the mornin key app for android seems to be having issue when trying to open up the on my android device.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nZlzT.jpeg

so I switch to using an iOS for the both apps instead of the andriod.

Mixin messenger

I registered with one of my less active line and the otp verification code was actually sent very fast although thought it would take my time but didn't but I only had to copy it manually and paste it but still all good because most apps failed to verify automatically.

Setting my pin
The process was all good except for the fact that I had to make an input confirmation of exact same for up to four times before confirmation which is good I suppose for security purpose but I feel the normal two times confirmation would have worked fine too.

Adding emergency contact

Setting up the emergency contact was kind of a fuzz for me cause I actually and literally have to wait for the user am trying to add to be online so he can send the verification code for me to confirm his add up. Apart from the  process was all good.

Other features
I think the messenger app has some nice features added to it like the group chat where you can interact with some of your contacts just like every other message apps.

Mixin safe
First the log in process was kinda stressful as I needed two device to successfully log in as one needs to scan the other from the messenger app in other to log in although the scanning was smooth and fast so I logged in successfully.

after logging in the website
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nZ0Xo.jpeg
it looked very simple although too plain for my liking and the annoying red sticker which that serve as a warning should Atleast disappear after staying in website for sometime Atleast for the user would  have grasped the message trying to pass.

Creating a safe
This process would have been very complicated if actually there was no official guildline to it but on still I followed the process showed to create the safe.

At first it prompted a  name section and network type of which I just used my BTT username for ease and bitcoin for the network.

* next was the owner control key setup which is one of the 2-3 multisig wallet purposes. I selected mornin key as my private key control and since I already had the app installed and activated  it was just to scan the QR code on the mixin safe site of which I did and it went smoothly and my key was secure and safe in the app with the specific name I  used in the mixin safe website.

* next was the member key set up which require me to add up a member and it didn't take since I have someone here from the community who is close to me and we have already backed up as emergency contact so his contact just popped up when I clicked the +add button in the mixin safe site and I added him up and selected threshold (1) since its part of minimum requirement and don't have much contacts so two person confirming the transaction would be OK for me.

* next was the summary which require me to choose a plan although I was worried for the reason for me to actually pay  to upgrade and create more safe so I choose the 2$ plan since its a still testing phase.

 purchase of plan

The process was very fast and smooth.
I funded the messenger app through my wallet and in no time got notified of the deposit.
Then I went back and choose the 2$ plan in which I made successful payment through the mixin pay wallet option through crypto https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nCPPl.jpeg
After successful payment went back to my mixin pay and activated safe through mornin key scan which at first showed error but finally got it running.

Transaction on mixin safe

First I had to deposit some funds to try out mixin safe wallet so I choose the receive deposit option in which I funded through my binance exchange app and it went smoothly as I receive the funds quickly.

then
The send transaction where I had to selected 2 member verification which is me(mornin key signiture) and the  member to confirm the transaction before it went through.
I think I would try out more member later as part of verification but for this beta version, I think one member confirmation is okay.

*The security on this wallet is smashing as the member(s) need to verified before your transaction can actually go through, so it would be very hard to be hacked of your funds.
Just superb

Support chat on mixin safe
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nZppw.jpeg

I thought I should try out the support chat on the mixin safe website to see how reliable it is and it was very OK by me as I got attended to by the customer chat representative and all my question I asked was satisfactorily answered. So the support chat feature is very OK and reliable.

Conclusion
*The overall experience was smooth although a short video on the whole process would be very helpful, like a tutorial video to ease some stress

* the payment is very fast and notification in the messenger app is also superb, as I got every notification very quickly concerning transaction on my mixin safe wallet.

Can't wait for you guys to upgrade more the beta version so one can properly use the wallet.

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security alert:There is a similar website, which the team should consider buying:
safe.mixing.zone/

This domain is owned by another company, and I mistakenly put it in my web browser.

Suggestion: put all your products in the same domain and redirect them. Multiple domains is confused for the user. I am always worried when I move to another domain, specially within the same company/service
Currently domains that i noticed mixin team has:
https://safe.mixin.zone/
https://mixin.one/
https://messenger.mixin.one/
https://mornin.one/

Get Started
The website has a nice design, however there are some contradictory information in it.

In the Get Started page (https://safe.mixin.zone/start) the only option for Owner Wallet is Morning Key.
However, in the article (https://support.mixin.one/en/article/how-to-use-ledger-to-create-mixin-safe-2ppnls/) it says I can use ledger or some other wallet (which is not true yet).

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nCwrZ.png

This should be fixed and all information should be as clear as possible, as this just the first step of the process and (in my opinion) this makes me feel a little insecure if am I doing something wrong or not.

Morning Key
At first I thought Morning Key was part of the Mixin Safe suite.

As there is a  ~1USD fee (converting from BRL to USD) in Play Store, I decided to download the APK from the website for free.

After a successful free APK download from  the website, I just created an account and set up the wallet. The app is very confusing .

Downloading Messenger
Security alert: Asking for personal information (phone number).
This is a big security and privacy risk IMO.
Personal information can be hacked or leaked, we all have seen before.

Why does mixing want to know who am I and who my friends are? This is very invasive, and it is irrelevant for the transaction we want to make (securing bitcoin).
Please, add other methods, such as e-mail verification.

E-mail is much more private and better suited for internet needs. For example, I have an e-mail for anything related to the forum, other related to personal finances, other for personal life, etc... But I have only one phone number.

Setting Emergency Contact

The image displayed here is outdated, the UI of messenger is slightly different now. Other than that, the process was very easy and smooth.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nCTWm.png
outdated UI image (at least in Android) - https://safe.mixin.zone/start

Mixin Safe

Now things get confused. Messenger app never mentions Safe anywhere. I needed to go to https://safe.mixin.zone/login to find the QRCode which creates the safe.
The APP should be more clear imo. Something like "Create New Safe -> Scan QR Code"

After that, mixin messenger says my phone number and other data will be shared (I really preferred that this was an e-mail)

2 USD Payment
Many cryptocurrency payment methods available, which is amazing.

I transferred some TRX to get a fast and cheap confirmation, and so it was.

Interesting point: I overpaid some dust (about 0,1 TRX), and there is a way to ask for a "Refund" (https://help.mixpay.me/en/articles/7063792-how-to-get-a-refund).
The value was very small, but the process was very fast and straight foward.

I just added the BOT inside the Messenger and after chatting with the MixPay Bot I was able to recover the dust. I got the value back in just a few seconds.


bug when using morning key to create safe

I got the following message when approving the safe.
The safe asked for:

"Owner Approval
Use Mornin Key to scan the QR code on the below and sign"

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nQHTg.png

"Error (10002): The request data has invalid field"
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nQAaH.png

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I failed to create the wallet. So I decided to get in touch with the support team. I told them about the issue, and they fixed it right away:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/21/nQmHc.png

Transactions

It was not easy to find the Deposit button. I missed a button "Receive/Deposit" here:
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/22/nm1MD.png

It was not easy to confirm the transaction with both users , I managed to do so, but I am an experienced bitcoin user. But I think an average user will just give up .... not easy.

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Suggestions:

I missed more explanations in Mixin Messenger and Morning Key.

Both Apps are  lacks information about what they do.
Morning Key specially. I was trying to generate a receiving address there, impossible... Then I discovered I had to click in Tranasctions inside Mixin Safe to generate an address there. Not intuitive.

I spend about 3 hours trying to figure everything out. It was not fast, and I believe the process could be more straight foward.

I liked how everything worked in the end, but the process was very slow.

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My Mixin Safe Review

To create a mixin safe I had several options to choose from(Mornin key, Ledger Hardware wallet,  Bitcoin Core) and I started with Mornin key because this is a mobile based app which  can be downloaded from the playstore which I thought was convenient for me as I was on mobile ,but unfortunately this is a paying app which forced me to try other available options to see if anyone out there can get started without paying a dime.

 
Second option was to use a ledger hardware wallet but unfortunately my little gadget isnt in yet so had to pass on this option..but in the future might love to test this out if time allows.

Third option was to use Bitcoin Core wallet which was the most popular methods according to Mixin Safe support page at the time of writing this , and looking at the tutorial on the mixin safe walkthrough page, the process seemed to have a lot of typing/coding which I was really not up for as I was on mobile and went with the first option.

So apparently to get Mornin key downloaded on your device for android users like me, you have to pay a small token of 0.99 dollars which is no biggie as we are covered thanx to Mixin :)

But another option to download the app is to follow the link shared on their support page to get apk downloaded for free , but to support the project download app from the playstore..otherwise download apk from here ==》 (https://newbie.zeromesh.net/mornin-18.apk)

Steps to setup Wallet with Mornin key


1.Prepare Owner Wallet
First step simply requires you to have the Mornin key manager downloaded on your device,  which is also available only on iOS and Android for now.

2.Prepare Members Wallet

This step involves inviting friends and family to the mixin Messenger wallet , which I downloaded to interact with the the mixin ecosystem.


3.Set Mixin Messenger PIN
Think of this as an authentication key to proceed, and btw this was one fun thing I did on the mixin ecosystem...having to enter pin like 4 times was oddly mind blowing and I love different 8)


4.Add Mixin Messenger Contacts
-Think of these as contacts you will be interacting, you can chat with via Mixin Messenger app, can also use these contacts as your multisig members or emergency contacts, the possibilities are endless.


5.Set Emergency Contact
For this step I just added a special someone as the emergency contact because you can't be too careful.

6.Sign in Mixin Safe
-If you get this far, you are ready to create your first safe.


To create a safe, this is done in 3 easy steps

• Give the safe a name and pick the blockchain or coin available from the drop-down menu and at the time of writing this, this is limited to bitcoin & litecoin for now
• Set Owner and add members
• Lastly Approve!

Btw, before anything its advisable to upgrade your plan to enjoy the perks that come with this such as getting the Recovery service, X number of members to be added depending on plan, create X number of Safes depending on plan etc and I paid for a plan before creating a safe, though the process is Safe first then pay for plan last 8)


Personally, I choose to go with the standard plan as the package suits my needs and most should afford this option....I mean its $2  ::)
Did I also mention that mixin Safe wallet makes it easy for anyone that wants to upgrade with their multicoin support, see image below for coins available and let those high transaction fees not stop you.


After making my subscription this is what I saw on my dashboard, and I can still upgrade to other plans if I wanted to have the extra perks.


To continue the Safe creation, I added an extra member before the completion of the mixin safe, as this is a prerequisite and after this process was ready to see how multisig works as safe creation was succesfully done.


For this test, I have 2 members set up for the multisig process, which is myself and my crypto buddy as the other member, and also set it to a 2 out of 2 threshold for this test as can be seen by the image below. With kind of setup, this implies that should someone have unauthorized access to the wallet and I have funds stored in the safe, the user will not transfer coins out unless they have the other member key to complete the required threshold!


Next step was me acting as the owner and sending out some crypto out to see how much of the extra security multisig has when using mixin.
And as can be seen from the image below, coins could not be sent out without the approval of the owner(me) and other member(s).


Upon hitting the send coins, approval was required and this is what is expected to be seen by both parties.
-Image on the left shows what to expect to see on your dashboard after other member approves
-Image on the right shows a nice tidy interface of what to expect after all required members approve the transaction.
https://i.ibb.co/VSyT1WN/BEFORE-APPROVE-x1.png https://i.ibb.co/Gs05252/w-OODIE-APPROVE.png https://i.ibb.co/0Fg11cV/a-PPROVED-BY-ALL.png

After both approvals were done, within 3 to 10 seconds a transaction hash is given where I was able to track my transaction, and tx confirmed within the next block which was impressive thought they would apply small fees to our transactions ;D

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Just a few questions for the devs:

• Why is creating a Mixin safe only available on desktop and not the mobile app??
• Is an in-app coin exchanger possible for the sake of convenience
• The walkthroughs on the website aren't user friendly based on my experience, is having some kind of mini videos possible to make the various processes easier?
• Is it possible to have card payments added to mixin to have users easily upgrade their subscriptions as not everyone could be familiar with cryptocurrencies
• Lastly this is 50/50, when using mixin on mobile, funds received in safe never get to show as wallet balance in spite of having a positive balance...how does this one work?

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***Edit***

Something i discovered yesterday, when you log into Mixin Safe via the web platform (https://safe.mixin.zone), I have noticed that mixin doesn't log you out automatically even after several hours of you not being near you PC. For a users security is this not suppose to work in such a way, that after X minutes it should log you out automatically or be asking you to sign In  with Mornin key 🔑 or something...better yet a sign out period can be included in settings or something, my 2cents.
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My Mixin Safe Review/Experince


mixin messenger signup

The registration process was quick and simple, although I would recommend using an email address because they are easy to obtain. I joined up with my phone number and received a verification code without any difficulty. Except for the recommendation I provided above, the mixin messenger signup works fine.

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Mixin messenger features

a. Mixin UI/UX

I like how each button is situated; it's extremely simple and traditional. The dark colour scheme is not all that horrible, but I prefer my messenger app in a light colour; I noted that such a colour option was not available; it would be wonderful to have such an option where a user could choose the colour they want. (Most people are colorblind, and persons with abinonism are unable to make use of this messenger as it is)


b. Chat on Messenger.

The mixin messenger is comparable to WhatsApp; I enjoy everything about it and have been using it to communicate with some of my friends; it's in decent shape except for a few features that are missing, such as video calls, on/off read receipt, and online status.


c. Mixin wallet.

I like the multicoins wallet, it was something that drew my attention at first, and this is one of the best features I found interesting, as well as the fact that I can withdraw coin and send to my contact in a matter of seconds without charge (I deposited USDT and sent to my contact with no charges). I have not yet tested the Bitcoin option. But I'll do it. I've already introduced this messenger to my friends, but the only feature missing from the Mixin wallet is the 'BUY BITCOIN' option. This is the option I want to also see.

My experience with the Mixin messenger was good but there are few things left to make it stand out.

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My experience with mixin safes.


After my experience, I went on to create the mixin safes and, like everyone else, I used the mornin key option. I downloaded the free APK version because I was asked to pay a token before downloading it on playstore, and because I am someone who is very careful with my credit card information, I decided to use the untrusted APK instead, which was a little risky, but I did it anyway.

I installed the mornin key, created my account, and then proceeded to create my Bitcoin safe with one team member.

Selected Mornin key as my owner private key, scanned the barcode, and paid for the $2 upgrade plan because I just needed to build one safe for myself. I chose the mixin wallet USDT payment option because it was the quickest and it was confirmed in seconds.

I had no trouble creating this procedure, although it was challenging at first and required some time to get used to.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/22/nGvD5.png

Recommendations> A brief video tutorial would be helpful, as the article was not very good.

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My mixin safe deposit and customer support expereince

 I deposited 0.00067173 BTC to my safes, but my coin was not credited to my safes even after 6 confirmations, so I decided to contact customer service, and I found something very interesting on the chat, I was asked to provide my email address, which I did, and while I was waiting for my turn to be attended to, a game appeared on the chat to keep me entertained. This was a lot of fun and an excellent way to pass the time. Lol

I chatted with customer support, and they were quite professional, handling my request in a very kind and professional manner.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/22/nGTkJ.png

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/22/nGEoH.png

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My mixin safe withdrawal  and multisig experience

I got my deposit sorted out and wanted to experiment with the withdrawal option, however this was another useless navigation step that took a few minutes to complete. Is it possible to just have the withdrawal button on the dashboard? Is it necessary to start a new transaction in order to make a withdrawal? This procedure seemed needless to me, but I went forward with it nonetheless. The transfer fees are fixed for all withdrawals; they were a little high but not excessively so I entered my information and clicked withdraw before proceeding to test the members approval page; because I only added one member, I went through the mixin messenger approval, Mornin key approval, and safes approval processes, and the withdrawal was completed without incident.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/22/nGIlg.png

Process rating 8/10.

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Recommendation/suggestions

Implement the colour mixin messenger option (dark and light).
Implement video calls, read on/off options, and online status options.
Add a 'BUY COIN' option to the mixin wallet, along with CashApp and Google Pay.
The article lacked a video lesson on how to set up the safes.
Add a withdrawal button to the dashboard of the safes.
Add an email signup option.

Remark. You're on the right track; just a few more features and everything will be ready to go.

I'm available for future review if you ever needed one. Gracies  8)

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I used Mixin Messenger app and Mixin safe browser for the review. I downloaded the Mixin messenger app to my phone via the app store and needed the phone number for registration. https://mixin.one/messenger  (https://mixin.one/messenger) https://safe.mixin.zone (https://safe.mixin.zone)
https://i.ibb.co/JvGpCFm/IMG-7194.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)
I registered with my phone number and then created a 6-digit pin for application security. Make sure to note down the PIN you created and it will be required for wallet, transfer, mixin safe connection and phone number change. After the registration was completed, i was greeted with a welcome message by the robot in the chat section.

I can say that the end-to-end encryption of the messages with the Signal protocol relieved me in terms of security. One of my favorite features is to have a decentralized wallet within the application. You can easily transfer bitcoin and crypto money between your contacts in the application with this wallet. You can perform your transactions after logging in with a pin to the wallet, which has a very simple interface. Moreover, there is no commission fee and it is very fast. You can sync your phone's contacts to the application in the chat section, or you can add a contact with a username or ID number. It is important for the application to have a simple and easy interface in terms of usage and reaching the masses. Having simple and fast solutions means that application traffic is increasing day by day. An exciting development for first time users.

You can use the mixin messenger application to register with the Mixin safe browser. By pressing the register part, you can scan the QR code that appears with the code reader camera in the application and log in to mixin safe. This is pretty simple and fast.

If I summarize the positive aspects, you can quickly and easily transfer crypto money to your friends within the application, message with end-to-end encryption and hold group meetings. I think it's been an excellent messaging and meeting app for the crypto community. Managing all crypto assets with a single PIN is simple. My favorite security feature is the creation of an emergency contact and increased multi-wallet asset security. Keeping keys for many years can be challenging. For security reasons, you can easily recover your lost key with Mixin Safe. Another one of my favorite features. Another feature is that if your computer is hijacked by an unknown person, you can end the desktop session from the phone application.
https://i.ibb.co/BwqJh3r/IMG-7198.jpg (https://ibb.co/ZNWrQXY)

We tried Mixin Messenger with my dear friend @Gencecikmen from the forum. (My Mixin ID: 41175171)
https://i.ibb.co/wsSyymz/IMG-7183.png (https://ibb.co/tXqBBrJ)
https://i.ibb.co/dWpKZD1/IMG-7184.jpg (https://ibb.co/C190LQN)
https://i.ibb.co/9GCvMSS/IMG-7187.jpg (https://ibb.co/7b6z9LL)

We made a friend request with the ID code, and i also sent bitcoins to him from the messaging section and he sent me bitcoins in the same way. It was a pleasure that everything was practical. The downside would be to increase the key generation options for Mixin Safe. I logged into the App Store to use Mornin Key but there was almost no feedback on Mornin Key. I sent btc to my mixin messenger wallet with Electrum, but when i synchronized mixin safe and mixin messenger, the balance part appeared in the browser as zero. When i wrote about my problem from the support section, i got the answer i was looking for.
https://i.ibb.co/4RN6GyG/Ekran-Resmi-2023-07-23-00-49-36.png (https://ibb.co/yFsw1T1)

I need to use Mornin key, Ledger and Bitcoincore for Mixin safe. There should be more options. The language option for Mixin Messenger needs to be increased. Apart from all these, it is an application that i will definitely use for a long time.

Mixin Safe Review

Mixin Messanger

-I download Mixin Messanger on the play store via the link provided on the sign page of https://safe.mixin.zone. This is very helpful to ensure that we are downloading the correct app and to avoid fake apps. The mixin messenger is very smooth to download and install. I create my account easily like the typical crypto wallet and the UI is very easy to understand as a first-time user of this app.

-I really like the emergency contact feature of this messenger app because my account can be recover using the emergency contact which means my wife can retrieve my funds if ever something happened to me through his mobile number.

I sign in on https://safe.mixin.zone via scanning the QR code on my desktop browser and it logins very quickly as soon as I scan my sign-in QR code.

Mixin Safe

-I head over to the safe to create my safe for my account but I encounter an error "Request failed with status 500" which I reported immediately to the support for a quick fix.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/23/nP35c.png

-The support gave me an estimated time to fix this error and they informed me via email & chat right after the error is fixed. Customer support is very quick to address issues!

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/23/nPYRq.png

-After the support fixed the error, I continue the next step to create a safe which is by creating an owner wallet. I choose Mornin Key so that I can try this app for the first time. The app requires payment before you can install and I pay 1$ for downloading the app.
After I pay and install the morning key app, I create my account and scan the QR code on mixin.safe page to sign-in as owner wallet of the safe I'm creating. Same to the Mixin messenger scan feature, Mornin key scan is very quick while the website is very responsive on scan login.

-Next is setting up the members for the safe, I use my own Mixin messenger to be a member and choose 1 threshold. My mixin messenger is a default member since I use it to sign-in on the website so this step is very easy to complete.

-On the summary tab, It requires me to upgrade the plan before I can create a safe, I purchased a standard plan which is 2$ per year and pay using my mixin messenger. Everything went smoothly because I can pay by scanning the QR code with my mixin messenger. This QR code scan method is very helpful to make every process quick and safe from clipboard malware. I finish creating my Safe and activate it via morning key app by scanning the QR code on the summary page.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/23/nPyeG.png

-I use my remaining balance on my Mixin messenger to deposit to my safe and I'm surprised that the transaction for Bitcoin is a flat rate of 0.00047BTC which is a bit high fee for a wallet. My deposit amount which is 18$ after the fee is quickly credited to my safe balance right after I initiate send button on my mixin messenger.


Mixin Safe Withdrawal
-I withdraw my funds by approving with my mixin messenger and mornin key that verifies that I can't withdraw without those owner & member approval to make this safe really safe for storage via multiple parties as member and owner. I'm surprised too that the withdrawal process doesn't require any transaction fee which justifies why mixin messenger bitcoin transaction fee is high.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/23/nPrKZ.png

Conclusion:
Mixin safe is very easy to use and safe at the same time since it has multiple parties involved to access the safe and at the same time the threshold number can be modified during the setup so that the safe can be accessed even with one member is missing or become rouge. The support is very helpful and friendly in dealing with my concerns since I encounter multiple errors along the way which they fixed immediately. I hope they continue this level of service and wishing the success of Mixin project!

Download and Installation of Mornin Keys

I tried to download the Mornin Key application from the Google store but I discovered that I had to buy the application. I used a fiat payment option and bought it with my local currency. I made the payments downloaded and installed but it didn’t function. I made some inquiries and I discovered that it will not function in a 2gig Ram phone. I had to get a 6gig ram phone to carry out the task. Using my new phone, it went smoothly. After the download and installation, I was asked to use a 6-digit password to secure it and I copied my mnemonic phrase and backing them up.

Download and Installation of Mixin Messenger

I downloaded the Mixin Messenger for Google Store and it was free. They asked for my phone number and send a pin code to it that helped in activating the messenger. The code came in seconds and I was pleased with it. I also had to create six-pin passwords for the messenger for safety and they asked me to put the pin four times. The messenger had a social media outlook combined with that of a wallet. It claimed that transactions were free and was a decentralized wallet. It has options to make both personal and group calls. It also has an option for Maxim messenger desktop and an option to invite friends. Friends can be included by name, phone number or Maxin ID.

Mixin Messenger Security

For security, we have an emergency contact. To make someone your emergency contact you need to add the person to your contact. I added my close relative and she had to authorize it by adding me as a contact and approved it. Everything was good and fine. It is also important to note that there is an option to change your emergency number but it should be handled carefully. If there is an error in the code, you will have to wait for 24 hours to carry out the same function. There is an option for authorisation and logs to track the activities and transactions on the messenger.



Creation and signing in Mixin Safe

The next stage is to create your safe. This was where I had my biggest challenge because was trying to link my Messenger to the safe using code found here: https://safe.mixin.zone/start , instead of the code found here: https://safe.mixin.zone/login . And I had to spend so much time until I had to go through the get started procedures which took me to the login page where I saw the correct Mixin Safe scanning code. Immediately I used the correct code my save was activated and a Mixin safe service appeared in my Messenger I was also asked to input my password and Mixin service and Safe service became a notification bank or mailbox in the Messenger wallet. It will be nice if the website is made less complicated because an easy task can be hectic if the process is complex.
 

Mixin Safe setup

Now I could have access to the online mixin safe. I followed the instruction and set Mornin keys as my preferred wallet and filed other information. And I had to link my Mornin Keys with my Mixin Safe account through a QR code and I approved the connections Mornin key applications. The next step. was to set up how many people will control the Maxin safe. The option from two to five and I selected two people options because I wanted only me and my relative to control it. It went smoothly because I had readily added the relative as my emergency contact. But for me to complete this process I was instructed to upgrade my plan. And there were many packages but I chose the cheapest and paid $2 in Bitcoin.


Upgrading Mixin Safe

So, I had to create a transaction input the details and approved. I was transferred to the website mixpay.me to make the payment. This is another area I am not comfortable with the registration process. They are always redirecting to other websites. Maybe it is for security reasons, I cannot tell. I had different payment options including fiat and cryptocurrencies. But I paid with Bitcoin. I was confirmed in a few seconds and my package was upgraded. So, any member of my group could approve transactions. The transaction was timed and I thought many transactions will time out when the Mempool is jam-packed. You will also use your Mornin Key to sign in using the QR provided.


Depositing in my Mixin Safe

I tried to deposit some funds into my Mixin Safe. I had to create a new transaction but it was less hectic because I had already activated my account. I was not asked for any QR code scanning I just inputted the amount which is a minimum of 0.0001 and copied my wallet address. I authorized the transaction from my wallet and within a few minutes my Mixin safe account was credited. And I got an instant notification in my mini safe service of the transaction. And I was notified to go to my Mixin Safe dashboard to view the detail and the details of the transactions were clearly documented there.


Withdrawing from my Mixin Safe

I wanted to try the deposit and see how effective it was and confirm if it was really free. To withdraw my funds, I had to still create a new transaction, and choose my preferred currency, the amount, and the address. The minimum deposit is the same as the minimum deposit. The transaction was approved but I am yet to see the funds in my wallet. I was debited but the transaction is still pending now and I have not seen the fund in my wallet.

Customer Service

The customer care was swift, I suspect it was an artificial intelligence or a chatbox. I asked for assistance when I was having issues with my setup but they immediately asked for my email. I didn't go further with my enquires because I had managed to sort it out. But I observed that the Maxin team customer service in the messenger is not active, the message I send there has not received any response. But I was not comfortable with the constant asking for personal information.


Strength of Mixin Safe system

1.   Highly secured because it has levels of authorizations before approval.
2.   A worthy platform to plan for future uncertainties
3.   It has an all-in-one package that can protect one from attack. It has a social and formal function
4.   It facilitates the share of ideas because of its capacity to build a private community

Weakness of Mixin Safe System

1.   Setting up is complicated
2.   Invade privacy by asking for personal details.
3.   In case of an emergency and one approver is not accessible, there might be difficulty to access funds.

My Review

After clicking the yellow inked link to the user's guide, I was directed to installing the mixing message app and since I use an Android phone, I ofcourse downloaded the windows version of mixin messenger. The download process was a usual one and it went smooth and fast and I think the data consumption is fine.

Registration
The registration was a hassle free one and it was very easy to register,and it also seems similar to most of the registrations that required phone number for verification.
I had to use my personal phone number for the registration and the verification code came also in time,and I feel ok with the entire process as it wasn't too stressful as I thought it would be.

Pin
This is actually the first time I'm enrolling in a platform that requires me to imput my pin about four times,and I think the security is fine,and with this, anyone should not easily forget their pin even without writing it down somewhere.

Mixin Wallet
I also noticed that there are a lot of popular cryptocurrencies and tokens including BTC and the rest,
Sending and receiving was as easy as using trust wallet

Contact
While waiting for the BTC sent to be confirmed in my mixin wallet,I took the pleasure to stuff around and since this is still a new service,I had no contact with the account.

Adding Contact
It took me some good time to realize that I have to use a different device to be able to do this so I used a desktop to create another account with my mother's number and was able to add the new  account created through the name.

Profile
The profile menu looks nice and simple and you can also wear any Avatar and even use your person picture as a profile picture and you can also edit the name in the profile .

Chats
After adding the contacts,I also noticed that one can chart and communicate through writings,pictures and even videos,and the chatting pattern wasn't different from that of watsapp and very similar to that of telegram,but it seems adding some reactions to the chat would make it look more interesting.

There was an option for group chat but to be frank, I didn't try it out because adding contacts wasn't a nice one for me

Desktop version
It is also possible to use mixin on desktop and it was easy and very convenient to do so on a desktop.

Transaction
Receiving bitcoin to my wallet was as easy as receiving it with any other wallet and sending money between each mixin member account was very easy as it can easily be done through contacts and the minimum was about $2 and transactions between each mixin account is free.

Mixin safe
Well it wasn't an easy one for me to use the mixin safe as I wasn't having a desktop but after a long while I figured out that I have to switch my phone to the desktop mode from my chrome browser and everything went smoothly.

It was a very easy process signing in the mixin safe as it only requires scanning a QR code

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And this was how it looks from my phone, don't know if it looks same with others.

I also saw the option to upgrade to enable all features of the service and fine enough it comes in badges which I selected that of the $2 plan and it was swift.


In summary, the mixin messenger was a very interesting one and I enjoyed the whole thing as it wasn't really different from what I know but I think you should also consider adding the reaction feature on chats because I enjoy using it and it makes it even more expressive.

The mixin messenger makes it possible to chat and send Cryptos to our contacts directly without fees and I will prefer to use mixin safe for this singular option.

Bitcointalk username: Hyphen(-)
MY REVIEW

Considering the recommended ways to set up owners wallet in the mixin safe platform, I found the use of Mornin key easier and affordable for me, and therefore I used Mornin key apk to set my mixin safe wallet.

Installation of Mornin key and Mixin messenger.

While trying to use my app store to download the Mornin Key application, a fee was required before downloading the application. Going back to the guide provided for the review on the review page, I found another means of getting the application for free using the TestFlight app. I downloaded the TestFlight app through the link provided in the guide, and installation of the Mornin Key app went smoothly.

The Mixin Messenger application was successfully downloaded without any issue through the official link provided in the guide.

Sign Up and preparation of owners wallet.

Mornin Key signup
After successfully downloading the Mornin Key application, I signed up by creating my own wallet. A six-digit code was requested to be set for security and data protection, and a seed phrase was given for future wallet claims. I set the pin, wrote down my seed phrase in a safe place for my wallet backup, and then provided the seed phrase for wallet approval.

Mixin Messenger signup
After successfully downloading the Messenger application from the app store, I signed up using my phone number; a verification code was sent to the number immediately, and after typing in the four-digit numbers, the messenger requested that I set a six-digit code. After I did that, that was all; then a chat bot (Team Mixin) sent me a welcome message and some guidelines.
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Getting started on Mixin safe/ setting Owner Wallet
After setting my Mornin key wallet and the Mixin messenger, the Mixin safe website requested me to scan a QR code with my Mornin key
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After scanning the QR code, I successfully logged in, which is a very good step for the Mixin service. I further created a Mixin safe account using the Bitcoin Network. There is a request to scan a QR code to prove my ownership. I opened my Mornin key, scanned the code, and a Bitcoin wallet address was generated for my safe account for my Bitcoin deposit. Likely, the address showed up in my Mornin key wallet.
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Payment of 2 USDT to upgrade to standard plan
To upgrade to at least a standard plan, payment of almost 2 USDT was require to upgrade to a standard plan in order to have access to
There are various payment methods available, which look very impressive. I chose the USDT TRC 20 network because of their low transaction fee, and I initiated payment, which was very fast.
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I deposited 3.98USDT, and there is an option to get refund, but it is a small amount that is why I didn't care to get my refund.

Deposit and Withdrawal

Since I chose the Bitcoin network, I transferred 0.0005 BTC from my electrum wallet to my Mixin safe Bitcoin wallet. The deposit went through without a hitch since as soon as the transaction was completed, I received information from my Mixin Messenger that I had received a deposit of 0.0005 BTC.

After receiving the deposit, the home page changes to show the balance available in the Mixin safe wallet
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Withdrawal process.
The withdrawal process went as well as expected; I had no network troubles when completing my transaction.

When I requested a withdrawal, a page appeared asking for my receiving address and the amount of Bitcoin I was transferring to the address, with a minimum of 0.0001 BTC. After entering the amount of BTC I wanted to withdraw, I was asked to scan a QR code for member approval using the Mixin messenger and the owner's approval using the Mornin key, and then I accepted the transaction in the Mixin safe to complete it.
Without any delay, I received the bitcoin in my electrum wallet.
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Conclusions and Recommendations

Conclusion
After going through the complete Mixin process, I must conclude that the Mixin safe platform is well-organized, and the multi-signature withdrawal mechanism is excellent because it demonstrates that our assets are entirely protected and can never be taken without our consent.
Furthermore, the Mixin Messenger is important since it keeps us informed of everything that is going on in the Mixin safe, whether it is a deposit or withdrawal request.

The overall procedure was really smooth, the site is user-friendly, and the guide provided is very important in order to have a perfect secure transaction on the Mixin safe platform.

Recommendations
First of all, the idea of using a phone number to sign up for Messenger is not a good idea for security reasons, especially as it is a Mixing platform that intends to protect our privacy; a mail address should have been a better option.

If possible, a user should be automatically logged out once he is out of the Mixin Safe platform for security reasons, so that there will be a request for a password whenever a user wants to have access to their Mixin Safe accounts, even though I know that Mornin keys and Mixin Messenger confirmations are needed to withdraw any funds.

Bitcointalk username: <Dr.Bitcoin_Strange>

<My REVIEW>

1. (Mobile App) MIXIN CRYPTO WALLET/MESSENGER


Download and installation: downloading the Mixin crypto wallet/messenger app from the Play Store was so fast, it never took up to 2 minute before the app was downloaded, and the app space is just 43.26 MB, which is not too large.
I created my account by first adding my mobile number, and a four-digit code was sent through SMS to confirm my account.

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Creating the mixing wallet: creating the mixing wallet was simple because I just had to continue and select a six-digit password key.

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Creating a six-digit pin: after selecting a six-digit pin, pin confirmation was repeated five times before it was successful.

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Wallet was successfully and easily created without stress; this is what anyone can do without finding it difficult as long as they have downloaded the app.


(Bot)Team Mixin warm welcome and brife introductory message: On accessing the App, the first message I got was from the Mixin team bot, welcoming me and giving a few guidelines on how the Mixin wallet works.

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Commentary: I can say that this is a very good and informative introduction that can be of help.


Observation: I sent a few messages to the bot on 20th July, but it never replied to any, which makes me think that the bot is not very active. I have asked questions to the bots of other platforms, and they really did provide a quick reply, but the Mixin Team bot never did. Suprisenly,  there was a reply to my question on the 21th of July. I suggest that the mixin team should work on the bot so it can provide a quick answer to questions.

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Adding Contacts:
In order to test how well the contacts adding works with carrying out transactions on the mixin safe, I contacted a few of my trusted friends to download the mixin app and give me their mixin ID, which they did, and I added them as my contacts on Messenger.
  
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ADDING EMERGENCY CONTACT:

I also added three users to my emergency contact list.
A user can be added as your contact, but without adding them to your emergency contact list, you can't also add them as signatories to the mixin safe. To add an emergency contact, you need them (your selected contact) to receive a 4-digit code, which you will need to confirm, and they will need to agree to be added to your emergency contact list before you do so.
 
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OBSERVATION: I discovered that it's possible for you to add a user as your contact, and both of you can communicate through the chart, but before you can add a user to your "emergency contact," that user must also have you in their contact list; otherwise, they will not receive the 4-digit confirmation code that allows you to successfully add them to emergency contact.


COMMENTARY: This is really a good and transparent feature that makes sure you and your contact are in agreement 🤝 before adding them to emergency contact so they can confirm your transaction before it's successfu.

My three emergency contacts were successfully added without any difficulty, and this is what any internet sufferer can easily do too. The Mixin Mobile app is very easy to use.

FUNDING MY MIXIN WALLET:
I sent some BTC to my Mixin wallet, and after three network confirmations, it successfully arrived in my wallet, and I was also notified through the Mixin team bot.


WITHDRAWAL FROM MIXIN WALLET
I initiated a withdrawal from my Mixin wallet to my mixin safe Bitcoin address, but the transaction fee on the Mixin wallet is so high—about $16 worth of Bitcoin. I tried the inter-tramsfers option and sent some Bitcoin to one of my contacts, and he confirmed to have received it so fast, and I was not charged any fee for the internal transfer to another Mixin user.

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Taking screenshot is not allowed, so I Snape it wit another phone.

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I sent BTC to a mixin UID with Zero fee and the user sent it back to me, still with zero fee.

Commentary: I love the fact that the internal transfer of funds on the Mixin wallet messenger is free and fast, but the withdrawal fee for chain transfer (to another BTC address) is so high.  I suggest that the Mixin team should reduce the withdrawal transaction fee, because, definitely, after sending some funds to the Mixin wallet, if the user wants to withdraw to a CEX or DEX, they will really be frightened by the fee.


2. TEXTING MIXIN SAFE

After downloading the Mixin Messenger Mobile app from the Play Store and creating my account, which was very easy with four contacts added and three contacts added as emergency contacts, to connect the messager to my Mixin safe, I had to scan the Mixin QR code from another device, which never took more than 30 seconds before it was successfully connected and I was logged in.


Complement: There was really no difficulty in downloading the Mixin Messenger Mobile app and connecting it to my Mixin Safe; it was an efficient process that anyone can do without any difficulty unless the challenge they face is from their own end.


CREATING NEW SAFE:

Creating the mixing safe has 4 stage as discussed Below.

  Owner:: I decided to use the Mornin Key Mobile app as my private wallet key to control my mixin safe transactions, and I had to also use the Mornin app to scan the QR code displayed on my monitor. From the first stage of "creating a new safe," it quickly connected within less than 10 seconds. Which showed approval on the morning app and was also successful on the mixin safe. I clicked on Next, which quickly took me to the next stage of adding members:

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Members::: I had to add the three contacts from my saved emergency contacts. On the threshold,
I only approved two contacts to confirm my transaction any time I signed any transaction. After then, the summary stage follows.

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Summery: It shows all the details for my created safe, and the next stage is to ungrade my plans before I will be allowed to sign any transaction through my safe.

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Upgrade: I upgraded my safe with the "Standard plan," which cost about $2 p.a. My method of payment was through "Mixpay+ wallets," for which I had to fund my Mixin wallet and scan the QR code of the Mixpay+ wallet. The transaction was quickly approved.

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Commentary: The payment for upgrading the mixing safe is very fast using the "Mixpay+ wallet". There are also three different plans to select from. This feature is really cool, as one can choose the particular plan they want to upgrade to.


Active Mixing Safe:
After successfully upgrading my mixin safe to the standard plan, I waited a few hours before the safe was finally active.

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Suggestions: Every other process and confirmation was smooth and efficient, but it really took more than 2 hours before the safe was finally active. The Mixin team should please look into what could be the cause of the delay.


FUNDING MY MIXIN SAFE:
I succefully funded my mixin safe with 0.000151 Bitcoin.

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SIGNING A TRANSACTION ON MY MIXIN SAFE:
 After depositing some Bitcoin to my mixin safe, I also tried to withdraw it back to my wallet with a few steps. First, I initiated a new transaction and imputed the amount of Bitcoin I wanted to withdraw, and I was asked to scan a QR code with my Mixin Messenger before my added contacts could confirm the transaction. Then I contacted my two friends to confirm my transaction, which they did. After they did, I lastly had to also confirm the transaction with my mornin key App.
  Image of the steps are serially arranged bellow.

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CONCLUSION:
 This review process was successfully carried out by me, Dr. Bitcoin Strange, starting on the 20th of July 2023 until today of submitting my feedback on the review. During the process of this review, I used two different mobile phones and a desktop, and I can say that the mixin safe is good with its top feature that allows you to add a few of your trusted friends to confirm your transaction while they can't withdraw from your safe.

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Bitcointalk username: NotATether

(This review has been prepared a few days ago. It covers the Android app in landscape and portrait mode, funding the multisig wallet from Electrum.)


TL;DR What is this program? It doubles as a messaging program and a cryptocurrency wallet that is supposed to make it easier for you to send crypto to contacts in your phonebook, assuming they also have Mixin Safe installed. This leads me to believe that this app wants to achieve mass adoption.

I am going to specifically cover the Android app. (Read below about PC and iOS apps.) This is going to be more comprehensive than most of my other reviews due to the sheer size of the program, nevertheless, let's get this under way.

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First of all, I could not install this on my iPhone as it was (barely!) too old. I heard stories of people getting their phones bricked after upgrading to a really later iOS so that's a no-thanks from me. So I borrowed an Android phone for this demonstration. I'm assuming the interface would be like-for-like with the Android build anyway.

This is the homepage which you can get to after you type in your phone number and stuff. Well, you might ask: "Why must I need a phone number to use a crypto wallet?" I can think of two possible reasons:

• It could be a semi-custodial wallet so it needs some way to identify users (they did say they are using a 2-of-3 multisig and hold one of the keys)
• It could be for the benefit of identifying to your contacts who is using the app so that they can send cryptocurrency to you

(Apparently, in retrospect, it could also be used for authentication too.)

All in all though, mandatory phone verification was actually something I expected to see only in exchange apps, so that was pretty weird.


Yes, images are blurry - it's not like I was taking these photos from an action camera, but you can just about see enough of the user interface and text to figure out that this is a) the homepage, and b) I have been immediately sent 4 messages by "Team Mixin" after creating the account. Side note though: Why send four messages, when you could include most of that information in one message, with a WWW link (that is not the homepage) where I can read more information?  That would be a better design.

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As you can see in this image, there are three main buttons at the bottom. The one on the left is where you access your wallet - when you first open the app, there is no wallet created, so it nags you to create a wallet.

Here is a screenshot of the create wallet process since I forgot to take a photo of it on the camera:


As you can see, your wallet is not secured by a password or a seed phrase. Instead, it is using a PIN that is sent through Throttled Identity Protocol (https://tip.id/). (What the hell is Throttled Identity Protocol you ask? Read Appendix A.)

Anyway, the important part is to get an internet connection while you do this because it's going to connect with some servers during the process (using TLS and key hashing I hope).

Then you are asked to enter a PIN which will be your wallet password (where the phone number is your username I guess). But before you enter a dummy PIN, the app will actually stop you from using insecure PINs:


(Ah yes, how I love having my Java skills in a time like this.)

So basically, you can't use the passwords:

"123456"
Any password that has only one or two digits, such as "111111" or "010101".

However according to this (http://www.datagenetics.com/blog/september32012/), I advise the developer to blacklist

- consecutive sequences of numbers (not just 123456, but also something like 234567)
- reversed number sequences (i.e. 654321)

In general, PINs are much less secure than passwords because the creative PINs of a particular length are much less than the creative ASCII passwords of an equivalent length. Developer should also add password support.

You must enter the PIN four times because Mixin really doesn't want you to forget the PIN. But I don't really find that effective, because all those entries are happening at one point in time. It is better to copy Telegram in this regard which displays a "Do you still remember your password?" notification where you can enter the password while logged in to see if you still remember it - and if not, change it immediately.

Here is a very uneventful screen while we wait for the TIP keys to be created from the passcode:


Periodically, you will be asked to enter this PIN at seemingly random times. Must be a protocol thing (See Appendix A).


Now that we have created a Mixin wallet, we can access our assets and see the almost 40 OG coins and shitcoins listed in your portfolio!


Making the list:

• Bitcoin
• Ethereum
• Litecoin
• BOTH BNB tokens
• Bitcoin Cash
• Monero
• Craig Wrong's coin (who shall not be named)
• Dash
• ZCash
• Solana
• Kusama (whatever that is)
• ETH Classic
• Decred
• Avalanche
• Cosmos
• Horizen
• Aptos (what?)
• Arweave (what?)
• Polkadot
• Filecoin
• Namecoin
• NEAR protocol
• Toncoin (read carefully: Toncoin not Tron)
• Tezos
• EOS
• Polygon (aka MATIC)
• XRP
• Mobilecoin (whatever that is)
• Akash Network (god these coins have weird names)
• Stellar Lumens
• Algorand
• Tron
• Dogecoin (says something about DOGE's usefulness being placed so down the list)
• Ravencoin
• Handshake (never heard of it)
• Siacoin (see above)
• Nervos CKByte (see above)

In addition, it supports most token chains such as ERC20, BEP20, BEP-2 (Binance is so messed up for having two different yet similarly sounding chains), TRC-20, TRC-10. Layer 2 networks such as Liquid, Lightning, etc. are not supported.

Coin receive addresses are generated when you click on the coin for the first time.

(Honestly I think half of these coins would be called securities by Gary Gensler and the other half his SEC agency would have no clue what to call them  ;D)

You can send or receive coins from each address, but you have to add the address into the app in order to use it, so it may not be ideal if your addresses mainly consist of those from Coinpayments, Coinbase Commerce, BitPay, and exchange deposit addresses.

(Memo is a blockchain thing and is only required for such obscure coins like EOS and Stellar and can be safely turned off for almost everything else).

You can also send coins to other Mixin contacts, and hide coins that you will never use. For most people reading this, that's usually the bottom 90% of this list.


Originally, I did not have this section included, but sending and receiving a transaction is required so here it goes.

Receiving transactions in particular is straightforward. There's a giant modal with address and QR code for each coin which you can just copy or send to another device to make a transaction. I have made a $30 transaction in BTC inside debbe87a68398075a2be41eb109f49bfc741c4e355f7bbbe42836d7f96dee05a to address bc1qdltcmdt7xlpm4c0p2gku9rdl74vthf5cjm8q24 (I don't know if you can verify addresses as being from Mixin, but here we go:)


I have two transactions listed here, because one is the RBF of another, and both are displayed here for some reason. Nevertheless, you can see that the more recent transaction has already been included in a block, while the older one should fall off over time as the blockchain nodes become full.


Sending coins is a bit of a hassle though, and actually has me a bit pissed (after all, you don't always deposit $30 to test a service). You are required to enter your PIN to add an address - not just when you are sending money. Why? Also, I got (supposedly) locked out for 24 hours trying to add an address with a label "Mr. X", despite remembering my PIN and entering it correctly. Or at least that's what the app claims happened, because after removing all the special characters and numbers/uppercase letters from the label, I was able to successfully add an address just a few minutes later. Anyways, its very inconsistent.

The actual error message says something like: "You will be locked out for 24 hours. 5 tries remaining" which I interpreted as being locked out now and after 5 more tries you get permanently locked out like a phone. Anyway, quite inaccurate message.

So now finally I can send the coins back to my address. But there is a massive, fixed 0.0004BTC "withdrawal fee" for bitcoin that feels more like tax (the 0.004BTC was not part of the measly 21 sats/vbyte transaction fee (https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/e31b980f2fb83e577e08510e6ebb02be88b1326e1655c010295f9eb89bdae312)) and makes Ethereum look cheap by comparison (again, why? BRC20 congestion isn't as bad anymore). How come fees cannot be customized if this is a semi-custodial wallet?

Full documentation of the circus that is the current receiving process:



Going back to the main menu, the button in the middle is for scanning QR codes. These could be addresses, transaction invoices, or things like logging in to the desktop client.

(Unfortunately, I forgot to link up the app with a desktop wallet, so that is why I could not review the desktop wallet. Sorry!)

Speaking of which, the desktop app, before you scan its code, is just a blank page with a QR code on it. I think, if its practical, there should be a second box below the QR code, displaying the contents of the QR code for you to type into the mobile app. That way, it can function on phones that have the camera disabled for security reasons (Edward Snowden), and possibly in the future, even hardware wallets that pick up on the protocol. (perhaps place a checksum at the end just like with bitcoin addresses). More on this below.

It seems that there is no support for linking hardware wallets with this app, which I think is a shame, because if would've been fantastic for hardware wallet holders to be able to use their devices along side an open-source multi-currency wallet.


For some reason, this is the name of the rightmost button on the main menu. It looks like this:


So this looks like we got ourselves the first two buttons (why?), a camera, and what is presumably a circle for each contact (for me, not wanting to add any contacts, I just see the circle for "Team Mixin").

I'm going to assume that the camera is for taking pictures to send to contacts? Because it really doesn't have a use for the wallet when the QR scanner exists.

Anyway, this is what you get when you open a contact:


And here is me adding random contacts and group chats (just to show that these features work as intended):

By the way, if you uninstall the app, it saves the wallet and stuff so that's nice. It also gives you the option to restore chat history from the local device or another device.

Full contents messages from "Team Mixin":


It turns out the other two messages are duplicates of the first two messages quoted here, so they will not be reposted again.

Speaking of which, with all these services, I wonder how Mixin makes money?


One more time, lets go back to the main menu, and this time click on the top-right avatar. There, you can see your profile, with options to add a contact or start a new group chat (as well as to receive money by sharing a Mixin QR code).

Now when you click on the gear, you get taken to the settings page. Here are a bunch of settings which I think you will find self-explanatory:



Let's be honest, I expected the 2-of-3 multisignature to be: 2 keys held by the user and 1 by Mixin - trustedcoin does something like that for Electrum. (After all, you can't view private keys or seeds yourself). Nowhere in the app did I see any information about creating a multisig or using it in any capacity, which left me kind of disappointed as multisig was one of the things that was advertised on the website. Although later I did get a message from the developer which read that the multisig is actually used internally by Mixin servers when you send a transaction - so that's something, but it doesn't feel like a multisig in the sense that I have multiple devices and signatures hooked up to the wallet. An attacker can still wipe you out if they have your PIN.

Certainly, in a single-user wallet, I am not going to be adding people as co-signers for any kind of multisig wallet anyway. But the emergency recover feature looks cool - it's worth noting that I myself don't have a use case for it - though I have fears this might be abused like a password reset.

Some other people here are downloading multisig / auth apps for this purpose, but I decided not to go down that route. After all, if you want to distribute some of the keys to other wallets, it would be more economical to support the hardware and software wallet integrations instead. Maybe the desktop app supports it (I don't know), but Android doesn't seem to support it.

Edit: It seems that multisig is only available on desktop / web.


I cannot see myself using this wallet for BTC. But maybe the other coins have lower fees so I don't know. It certainly looks more reputable than some of the other wallets out there (Atomic FTW!). The procedure for adding addresses is cumbersome and downright annoying at times, there is no fee customizer (I have no idea why they are taking 0.004BTC if it's not for a transaction fee - If they are trying to do the TrustedCoin business model then that is way too much)

And above all there's no reason to have a mobile-only app when you can make the desktop app support mobile phone login with phone numbers of any SIM card in a telephone. It's not like the app is using the secure device storage for storing private keys anyway. And even if it is, AES-256-CBC is more than a match for storing the local private key.

I never store cryptocurrency on mobile phones for any reason, so I'd regard this as an important issue. But when we ignore the chatting features, camera, messaging, the whole bot ecosystem, etc., this is a solid wallet (again, with the exception of the "withdrawal fee") being used and protected by the decentralized TIP protocol. We just need assurances & proof that the node software being used for TIP cannot be compromised - something more than one crypto hacker would like to do.

And in the end, I think this is exactly what's needed - a wallet. Support for hardware wallets and Layer 2 networks would definitely help.

That is why I don't think it's a good idea to leave the Windows/Mac/Linux desktop application as a dud, it should be useful out of the box without the need for a mobile app. (Just TIP phone number log-in plus PIN and you should be all set.) Mass adoption can only happen when you facilitate it.


I checked out the website and found that this solution is developed by none other than our resident Mixin boss, so I'll let the page do most of the talking.

TL;DR - using custom authentication servers, users can give a service provider something like an email address or some other unique identification for themselves, set a password, which is used with the username in a bunch of HMAC hashing to generate one of the parts of a multisignature key (m-of-n). Only after m of these are generated (which could be exact duplicates I guess??) can you create a signature that doubles as an "authentication success token" which is just a bunch of bytes you can use to derive a private key, a seed phrase, etc. from.




Today on 2023-07-25, I decided to link my mobile wallet with the web wallet.

Things went predictably well enough at first:



OK, so as you can see, the integration had succeeded, and I was able to access the web interface, which looks like this:


Not bad, actually. Good user interface.

So I went to create a multisig Safe that everyone was talking about. Now the only options so far are Mornin Key, Ledger, and Bitcoin Core. As I do not own a Ledger and was unwilling to fiddle around with more apps on the phone, I just chose Bitcoin Core as I happen to have a node running. So after following the instructions in the Bitcoin Core guide:


I was baffled with the last screen, which asked me to pay money in order to create my first Safe. Maybe this was because I already had a wallet on the mobile app or something equivalent. But either way, I had already burned money in order to test the transaction deposit and withdraw feature, so I wasn't willing to send more money to Mixin to create the Safe.

My recommendation is to eliminate the Standard plan and merge it with the Free plan (or "No plan" as it is called on the website), because as it stands, if you don't buy a plan, you cannot create a safe, and network fees of Mixin presumably already go to the Mixin organization (right?) so the $2/month (apparently it's $2/year according to the quote in the OP - that's even worse from a financial perspective, and I strongly suggest making the prices on a monthly count in order to become profitable) will only generate a tiny amount of revenue for Mixin, and won't pay for much even if 1000 users signed up for the plan. It reminds me of those $0.99 and $1.99/month subscription plans for App Store apps that similarly struggle to pay the developer due to lack of users.

I also recommend Mixin team reads this: https://www.entrepreneur.com/money-finance/an-entrepreneurs-guide-to-startup-pricing-strategies/428342 and add more features to the higher two paid plans in order to incite users into buying those instead. Locking certain features to the paid plans works tremendously well in this case, as well as extending the premium features to include stuff in the mobile app. Some examples from other companies e.g. Twitter:

- Imposing a message size limit, multimedia size limit, or recent messages limit
- Limiting the number of group chats and contacts you can add
- Restricting the use of certain assets in wallets to paid plans
- Restricting the use of certain multisig software e.g. hardware wallets for creating the Safe to the paid plans
- Allow certain kinds of assets e.g. NFTs to be transferred to the Safe only in paid plans
- Remodel the highest plan to make it suitable for businesses - businesses have huge amounts of money and if you give them phone support, and a suite of features needed by businesses, it can generate you a ton of revenue, as in 5, 6, or even 7 digits monthly if the service gains traction. Also, advertise to businesses directly, as companies are notoriously bad at keeping people's crypto safe from hacks. This will give you some immediate revenue to start with.
- Or even (at the risk of making an unpopular suggestion) making the free plan ad-supported but vet the ads that you display just like Bitcointalk used to do.

A person who genuinely depends on your service - as opposed to the casual user who just wants a look around - will definitely subscribe to one of the paid plans. So if you develop more products and solutions that utilize Multisig and offer them to this paying class, they will be more likely to buy them.

There are probably more ways to make the premium plans more attractive and viable, which I encourage you to explore. But ultimately, being around people who make startups and all that, I just don't find the $2 pricing plan financially viable for you.

(But in the unlikely event that you decide to keep the current pricing [which I do not recommend for the reasons above], you should display the pricing modal in place of the dashboard when the user signs in, not when the user has almost finished creating a Safe.)


2023-07-27, I decided to see what happens when you pay for the plan. As expected, the payment was processed, and there were actually some further instructions involving signing/verifying the safe from Bitcoin Core. Presumably to make sure the whole thing works.


Here I'd like to point out something wrong with the documentation - it assumes that Bitcoin Core decodescript RPC will return the multisig timelock script as the Segwit descriptor. However, this is not the case for some versions of Core, which return an address descriptor instead.

In the case where there is only one user added to the Safe, there's going to be the 2-of-3 multisig which looks like this:


The ASM output is always correct though. In my case, it's:


The placeholders are:

AAAA is the first key (in my case, 02ec372c4b6d6a6fc0964e07dd48448bc84921469fbfdc4c522da90f3a6b954fe9)
BBBB is the second key (03d64177a393989c5ff9c8603df421e2890d03913f1e1e5e7948b63f7e136a57d1)
CCCC is the third key (02d84f36931c6138f1825a49c29f5c4d9af9524ca795e133b8cfc65a01acd77c9a)
DDDD is where you put the timelock value (432)

Once you've done that, you should pass the descriptor as input to bitcoin-cli getdescriptorinfo to get the full descriptor with checksum.

Hopefully this will help someone make the safe even if Bitcoin Core changes the output format. Then you can follow the rest of the steps as according to the guide.


When the Safe is created, you can make a deposit or a transaction. Depositing the transaction is very simple, but you have to deposit at least 0.0001BTC. Making a transaction is, as expected, much more involved, and any of the Safe members or the Owner (the person who owns the other wallet, be it Bitcoin Core, Ledger or something else) can approve or reject the transcaction. The owner must always approve the transaction.


When I had my only member account of the safe approve the transaction, it asked me to scan a QR code because these things must be approved via the mobile app by typing a PIN. The Owner, on the other hand, must make a partially signed order to make the final approval

If only.


For some reason, I have my private key, and the script wallet, and the PSBT decoded shows the correct set of keys, but the PSBT is not signing at all!

So, do not create safes with Bitcoin Core until the devs make the instructions fool-proof, or you could lose your coins.

Bitcointalk username: Husna QA

I started from the "user guide (https://support.mixin.one/en/category/mixin-safe-n3u479/)" link about the use of Mixin safe that the OP listed on the first page of the thread.
Several App guides exist on the "Get Started" page to use Mixin Safe.
The order of the guides I see is based on popularity statistics, so the guides will always be random if based on these categories.

https://i.ibb.co/nzFfCb4/Screen-Shot-2023-07-23-at-11-34-30.png (https://ibb.co/KFJ7wXB)

My suggestion is for the user guide to be grouped in order based on each App so that new users can focus on guide material suitable for the application they will use.

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Here are some steps that I did to try Mixin Safe:

- Mornin Key installation

In the account creation process, after getting the Mnemonic Phrase, I tried to screenshot it, and it worked. In my opinion, the developer (One Mornin Software Solutions Ltd) should use a feature to prevent taking screenshots of the seed phrase display on the Mornin key.

https://i.ibb.co/3WxzPdj/photo-2023-07-23-21-14-14.jpg (https://ibb.co/Xpn8GLK)

- Mixin Messenger Installation
https://mixin.one/messenger

The iOS version of Mixin Messenger and the MacOS version can be installed on my iPhone and MacBook, but when I wanted to install it on my Android smartphone, it turned out that the application was not available for my country (Indonesia).

https://i.ibb.co/b6HNdjD/photo-2023-07-23-20-15-04.jpg (https://ibb.co/fX8r0VL)  https://i.ibb.co/P9Kk6D1/Screen-Shot-2023-07-23-at-20-20-15.png (https://ibb.co/ZY59M2c)  https://i.ibb.co/XW7m8L9/Whats-App-Image-2023-07-23-at-16-38-20.jpg (https://ibb.co/Bfy8N3m)

Next, I tried registering for Mixin Messenger on my iPhone, but I encountered the problem of not getting the code to log in despite repeated attempts. Finally, I tried emailing kelly@mixin.one because some of the solutions listed on https://mixinmessenger.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360024114492 did not solve my problem. But I was still waiting for a reply from the Mixin team, and after a few hours, there was no reply (Email support is not responsive). I tried to contact Mixin through the chat feature, and there was a reply from Kelly. He provides several solutions as follows:

https://i.ibb.co/XyFNqKB/Screen-Shot-2023-07-24-at-20-30-51.png (https://ibb.co/GsCBq8w)

But from some of these solutions, the code problem has not been resolved, so Mixin will try to contact the SMS operator, and it takes about 3 days:

https://i.ibb.co/cJzLd3C/Screen-Shot-2023-07-24-at-20-21-51-edit.png (https://ibb.co/CBx2F8M)

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I can't access Mixin Safe with Mixin Messenger due to the above issues.
If there is already information from Mixin, I will try to update it here. ...

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UPDATE I

After waiting a few days, I tried logging into Mixin Messenger again, and this time, the notification code finally appeared so I could open Mixin Messenger (I use a phone number from a cellular provider in Indonesia). Thank you, Mixin team, for your help.

https://i.ibb.co/Hdw20vJ/photo-2023-07-31-00-17-56.jpg (https://ibb.co/NSD3Xh4)  https://i.ibb.co/txSzcW4/photo-2023-07-31-00-31-14.jpg (https://ibb.co/Hx0CYkV)

- Test Login to https://safe.mixin.zone/login

After getting the QR code, I tried to scan it using Mixin Messenger; several points on the Request Authorization are all automatically active, 4 of which can be turned off.
I tried to deactivate some of the requested points.

Next is creating a PIN, then confirming several points on the Request Authorization by typing in the previously created PIN.

https://i.ibb.co/BG77VhS/photo-2023-07-31-00-30-26.jpg (https://ibb.co/nBVVsX5)  https://i.ibb.co/MMNBD8t/photo-2023-07-31-00-30-29.jpg (https://ibb.co/NZYT61J)

In the example above, when the four points for authorization are not active, it turns out that I cannot log in at all to Mixin Safe.
So I tried repeating the process by activating all the options. Here are the results:

https://i.ibb.co/DMWvLKK/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-22-32-58-edit.png (https://ibb.co/qgjcx11)

- Test login to Mixin Messenger Desktop (MacOS)

After scanning the barcode that appears on Mixin Messenger Desktop and entering the PIN code, here are the results:

https://i.ibb.co/M1VqDjX/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-20-32-35.png (https://ibb.co/7pW7JT9)

- Add Mixin Messenger Contacts

The Add Contact option on the Mixin messenger desktop is less than on the smartphone version:

https://i.ibb.co/ysTPM66/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-20-38-21.png (https://ibb.co/h859nBB) https://i.ibb.co/bNmzKbr/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-20-38-29.png (https://ibb.co/44tPV1j) https://i.ibb.co/55t8tkC/photo-2023-07-31-00-32-54.jpg (https://ibb.co/FBNwNXc)

Some of my contacts use Android smartphones, so they likely cannot use Mixin Messenger because it is unavailable in Indonesia. I tried to add the Mixin ID of one of the following users he listed in his post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460259.msg62597803#msg62597803).

https://i.ibb.co/syp06Z7/photo-2023-07-31-00-33-19.jpg (https://ibb.co/V207Qs6)

A little surprised when I opened My Contact, it turned out that one of my friend's contact numbers was already registered in Mixin, so it was automatically listed in the Mixin Messenger contact list.

https://i.ibb.co/WKNqdRd/photo-2023-07-31-00-33-21.jpg (https://ibb.co/x5KPcrc)

- Set Emergency Contact

I tried looking for this feature but didn't find it on Mixin Messenger iOS, I don't know if it's on the Android version, or maybe I missed it.

- Create Mixin Safe using Mornin Key

After previously successfully logging in at https://safe.mixin.zone/, next I tried to create Mixin Safe using the Mornin Key:

https://i.ibb.co/4mqj4Y3/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-22-33-57.png (https://ibb.co/YRCtfyw)

https://i.ibb.co/gR1Tt2Y/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-22-45-47.png (https://ibb.co/71cWrfh)

https://i.ibb.co/0DXXhdX/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-22-46-29.png (https://ibb.co/tmhh8Wh)

https://i.ibb.co/tbxcBd7/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-22-47-52.png (https://ibb.co/sF6QjB0)  https://i.ibb.co/yggZFp3/photo-2023-07-31-00-33-56.jpg (https://ibb.co/BTTQ2G1)

https://i.ibb.co/4fLvjWN/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-22-48-01.png (https://ibb.co/g78qDyg)

https://i.ibb.co/VYZBg7r/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-22-48-47.png (https://ibb.co/s9G3K0k)

https://i.ibb.co/NtZYfXD/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-22-48-59.png (https://ibb.co/zQGfC19)

I used the Bitcoin Lightning Network payment method for the Standard upgrade option in the Upgrade Plan process.

https://i.ibb.co/X4sxbH9/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-22-59-45.png (https://ibb.co/QcNvf0Z)  https://i.ibb.co/KWpzCgk/photo-2023-07-31-00-34-13.jpg (https://ibb.co/VTcpXGZ)

After the transaction was successful, it turned out that the create button did not appear either, so I refreshed the web browser, but apparently, my account was still not upgraded. Is this a bug?

https://i.ibb.co/z8Q2Rqh/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-23-02-58.png (https://ibb.co/tZQ2sVM)

https://i.ibb.co/Nm7jbkv/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-23-12-24.png (https://ibb.co/QCXNtqg)

I tried to chat with Mixin about this, and she promised to check with the dev team up tomorrow:

https://i.ibb.co/L6cHKxM/Screen-Shot-2023-07-30-at-23-37-29.png (https://ibb.co/P4P0kcR)
...

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While waiting for confirmation about the problems with the BTC lightning network payment method, I tried to deposit from my Trezor wallet to my BTC address on Mixin Messenger.
As this was my first deposit, I tried using a small amount first, as instructed on the Mixin wallet. Bitcoin deposit on Mixin was successful after 3 confirmations:

https://i.ibb.co/cy5MVh1/photo-2023-07-31-00-34-16.jpg (https://ibb.co/nw2ZtMb)  https://i.ibb.co/dtc3n5X/photo-2023-07-31-00-34-18.jpg (https://ibb.co/nB0VhL4)  https://i.ibb.co/ngtqgVc/photo-2023-07-31-02-05-37.jpg (https://ibb.co/Vj50jhS)

https://btc3.trezor.io/tx/76ec5abc222982a0f245c51f88418939b52a8b19b58909d874d3f8f05655de18 (https://btc3.trezor.io/tx/76ec5abc222982a0f245c51f88418939b52a8b19b58909d874d3f8f05655de18)

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UPDATE II

I tried to ask again about the issue of paying via BTC Lightning (using the Crypto option in the payment method):

https://i.ibb.co/WD980MC/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-09-35-58.png (https://ibb.co/DGXcYvd) https://i.ibb.co/THGWLMx/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-09-36-07.png (https://ibb.co/YtS0ZBF)

While waiting for a solution from Mixin & Mixin Pay (the payment gateway provider), I tried to create a new safe; This time, I used MixPay+ Wallets using BTC as the payment method.

The process is relatively fast, and this time the Create button appears; Here are some screenshots of the process until the new safe can be active:

https://i.ibb.co/58BtQWH/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-10-13-12.png (https://ibb.co/2tgmz74)

https://i.ibb.co/p25Fz2M/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-10-14-29.png (https://ibb.co/Zd7D8dF)

https://i.ibb.co/m8D5kdn/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-10-14-59.png (https://ibb.co/8cKgqGy)

https://i.ibb.co/mGSBdwT/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-10-15-08.png (https://ibb.co/XbV46gL)

https://i.ibb.co/PYXPRMp/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-10-16-13.png (https://ibb.co/VNnzdxy)

https://i.ibb.co/KbNmVfp/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-10-18-14.png (https://ibb.co/GnsFC84)

https://i.ibb.co/M84DS43/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-10-24-14.png (https://ibb.co/GsLvpLb)

https://i.ibb.co/Pg0zfpN/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-10-24-45.png (https://ibb.co/FzCqjvK)

https://i.ibb.co/fnkjHH3/photo-2023-07-31-10-34-50.jpg (https://ibb.co/D890QQB)  https://i.ibb.co/gg2mDrB/photo-2023-07-31-10-34-54.jpg (https://ibb.co/vzFVJcK)  https://i.ibb.co/5MqJqMG/photo-2023-07-31-10-34-58.jpg (https://ibb.co/1vH4Hv7)

https://i.ibb.co/C99zh81/photo-2023-07-31-10-35-03.jpg (https://ibb.co/vddHZqw)  https://i.ibb.co/S6JCbsz/photo-2023-07-31-10-35-12.jpg (https://ibb.co/7SbmPYq)  https://i.ibb.co/QMXwKyn/photo-2023-07-31-10-35-17.jpg (https://ibb.co/njRJLxf)

https://i.ibb.co/KmNRMyT/photo-2023-07-31-10-35-21.jpg (https://ibb.co/cxbMGT4)  https://i.ibb.co/vjKjrjF/photo-2023-07-31-10-35-26.jpg (https://ibb.co/FDjDfDr)  https://i.ibb.co/Cwgdp5d/photo-2023-07-31-10-35-35.jpg (https://ibb.co/9p6Xm9X)

- Deposit to Safe

https://i.ibb.co/k8zkx4k/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-15-23-20.png

https://i.ibb.co/Wf6WNCV/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-15-23-26.png

The Deposit to Safe process is pretty straightforward, for testing I tried sending from two different wallets:

a. From Trezor Wallet 0.0001 BTC with a fee of 0.00001071 BTC

https://i.ibb.co/3rJc9NT/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-16-22-43.png

https://btc5.trezor.io/tx/74aa10df42a9292b4da08cbae04c137c7d479a6456a4c3fa16b359a1f8a902b5

b. From Mixin Wallet 0.0001 BTC and the fee is 0.00024BTC (Quite expensive if for small transactions)

https://i.ibb.co/HhKzwn2/photo-2023-07-31-17-47-36.jpg https://i.ibb.co/MZS1Zm4/photo-2023-07-31-17-51-38.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/CKtTMt6/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-17-52-39.png

- Send a Transaction

I try to send all the balance in Safe to the Mixin wallet. Here are some of the processes:

https://i.ibb.co/hsMn6Kt/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-19-48-14.png

https://i.ibb.co/5xQ1fyG/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-19-48-55.png

https://i.ibb.co/NFQG3sG/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-19-48-59.png

https://i.ibb.co/yq6NKXF/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-19-49-09.png

https://i.ibb.co/WfjNHY0/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-19-49-34.png

https://i.ibb.co/r7GdzwQ/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-19-50-11.png

https://i.ibb.co/gz67nST/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-19-50-29.png

https://i.ibb.co/1Kthj0V/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-19-50-36.png

https://i.ibb.co/xMpTzjJ/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-19-52-30.png

https://i.ibb.co/BcRdMKr/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-19-54-12.png

https://i.ibb.co/t31ddVV/photo-2023-07-31-20-00-16.jpg https://i.ibb.co/VYZrbW8/photo-2023-07-31-20-00-20.jpg https://i.ibb.co/jGr3d6c/photo-2023-07-31-20-00-23.jpg

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Mixin Team's feedback:

https://i.ibb.co/3yn9Zxs/Screen-Shot-2023-07-31-at-20-15-36.png

Thanks for the solution, 2 pUSD is already in my Mixin Wallet:

https://i.ibb.co/3kJ4Yph/photo-2023-07-31-20-29-25.jpg

Since I have previously created another Safe, and the $2 per year upgrade plan only allows for 1 Safe, I cannot use it for now unless I upgrade to Elite or Prosperity.

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Conclusion:

Overall, using Mixin messenger + Mornin Key is quite easy (I haven't tried using Ledger and Bitcoin Core).

Some of the issues I encountered, such as problems with accepting code for login & upgrade plan failure when using BTC lightning payment, finally got a pretty good solution from the Mixin team.

Bitcointalk username: Rockstarguy


My Review on mixin safe

Actually it wasn't easy for me to download morning key and mixin messenger. The first attempt to make to download the app I was asked to pay some certain amount of money from my ATM card and I made attempt severally but it didn't work, I keep repeating the process for a longtime. Later on I was able to download the app into my mobile phone for free which was very fast, at first it wasn't easy for me because I couldn't get access easily on how to download the app, I think the app should be made available in play store and apple store for people to be able to download it with no difficulty.
https://i.ibb.co/LzN4zGS/Screenshot-20230723-083053-Web-Browser.jpg (https://ibb.co/WWVSWTn)
https://i.ibb.co/ZSrdDhh/Screenshot-20230723-083214-Web-Browser.jpg (https://ibb.co/3vb1Z00)

mornin key
Creating and activating the mornin key was very easy , I didn't have any issues even in my first time opening the app. From what I saw from the app I think mornin key is not bad when it comes to securing the seed phrase and other important data concerning mixin safe. Its search engine is accurate in search of public keys and username,  mornin key is cool to use for storage of private key and a public key.

mixin messenger
I activated my mixin messenger with a phone number which a verification number was sent to me as test, the verification number that was sent to me gave me access to the app. I was able to add some contacts in my contacts list , but I went through some challenges when activating  emergency contact that can make me retrieve my mobile number if it gets lost which I really want the mixin team to know that their is a need  for improvement.

Emergency contact

https://i.ibb.co/bQhRjGg/Screenshot-20230724-145955-Mixin.jpg (https://ibb.co/8N34nQD)
Activating the emergency contact to retrieve lost mobile,  in the process of doing this a code will be sent to the first member contact and the second member contact and if the code is not been use quickly it will expire and can't be used again and a code like this can't be generated again. I think even if the  time frame of using a verification code to activate emergency contact expires,  after sometime their should be more  chances of generating another code again to activate the emergency code, but with mixin messenger it only has just a chance to  gain a verification code to activate the emergency contact.

mixin wallet

https://i.ibb.co/kSFyHcf/Screenshot-20230723-082107-Mixin.jpg (https://ibb.co/sVrPm3G)
I deposited some bitcoin worth of $13 in the mixin wallet and without any delay it reflected into the wallet, I also used the mixin wallet to send some amount of Bitcoin to activate my mix safe. After the first transaction I couldn't transfer the balance in the wallet because of the  high charge fee, about $11 of bitcoin is still in the wallet that can't be tampered.  I think the feel is really too high which can be a red flag for people not to fund much amount of Bitcoin.
https://i.ibb.co/c1WPZJd/IMG-20230723-WA0004.jpg (https://ibb.co/CzjqYBF)
https://i.ibb.co/stZQ8HV/IMG-20230723-WA0005.jpg (https://ibb.co/M9mpF6C)https://i.ibb.co/1d1VhB4/IMG-20230725-WA0003-1.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Conclusion
Preparing the mornin key there was no issue,  everything went smoothly  and I don't see anything wrong about mornin key.  The security aspect of mornin key is excellent and it is doing a nice job by storing data and private key of user. I found the mixin  messenger a bit challenging though, it is challenging when activating members emergency contact,  no minimum limits of getting verification number to activate the emergency contact. Their should be more chances of receiving verification code even if the time expires .

The transaction fee charge is too high , I wish this can be look into by the team because it will scare people away from using the wallet,  because from my experience as Bitcoiner people always want to use a wallet that does not have high transaction fee.the least transaction fee is about $30 which is very high and many won't be able to afford this as transaction fee. This are my only challenges I came across,  but as for security and privacy the idea for money key is not a bad one.

Bitcointalk username: Bushdark

Preamble Stage
I quickly checked the Mixin Safe websites thinking that it was a new project but I noticed they had been in existence for few years now with there own app having more than 50k downloads which was quite interesting. I noticed that before I create the New Safe account, I  needed to pass through the preparatory stage first to enable me to get ready for the whole process and make it less navigating. I tried testing the 3 options but I find the Mornin key to be more friendly for mobile users since using Ledger or Bitcoin Core looks more advance requireing more of desktop.
https://i.ibb.co/P1kSnmK/Screenshot-2023-0724-181222.png


Mornin Key
As part of the preparation stage, I quickly follow the link on the Mixin Safe website to download the Mornin Key on Play Store, I noticed that the app was not free costing close to a dollar. I decided to make use of the APK file which was a good option for me to use rather than paying for the Mornin Key app. I quickly created an account with password to prevent unauthorized access to my account. It has friendly and simple interface making it easier option than using Bitcoin Core to create a Mixin Safe account.
https://i.ibb.co/CBdpDyn/Screenshot-2023-0724-181507.png


Mixin Messenger
Mixin Messenger is a cryptocurrency wallet that support different digital coins and enable users to receive and send coin to and fro. It has a simple interface that enables me to quick scan barcode, navigate to where cryptocurrency are listed to aid easier transaction and also have a room to browse the internet just like other advanced crypto wallets.

I was able to download the Mixin Crypto wallet using the link from the site that took me to Play Store making my experience to be quicky and smooth. I opened that app and I was able to create my own account using my name and a space for phone number was made me wondered why I have to input phone number to continue the registration since I don't like any means of personal data on a crypto wallet. Since there would be need for a number verification to continue the registration, I quickly look for a safe number to complete the verification of the wallet because I believe it's a decentralized wallet with higher security on privacy.

I created my password and I was able to login to my account without stress. I received a welcoming message from the Mixin Messenger  Bot about what the wallet is all about and it was more convincing knowing some of the guidelines and functions of the wallet. One can also create an end-to-end encrypted group, send pictures, videos with other amazing functions just like Whatsapp social media app. Mixin Messenger is a good wallet with a touch of social vibbing ability.
https://i.ibb.co/sHwc5KW/Screenshot-2023-0724-153355.png


Adding Mixin Messenger Contacts
Adding contacts to the wallet was quite a big challenge because I had to look for people around me that are willing to download the wallet and create an account to add them. Later after the whole process, I knew that one can easily send funds to those on the contact list but I think sending fund should not require a wallet address again since the person is a close contact. I was able to convince friends that was interested to test the wallet and open an account to complete the whole process.
https://i.ibb.co/hmsWy87/Screenshot-2023-0724-163009.png

Adding contact using the person's Mixin ID or phone was okay or quicky going through my contacts to see those who are using Mixin is a thumb up for the project team since it enables me to quickly search for those that are using it without bothering to input there numbers.

I decided to also create a group chat adding a contact titled "Review" to see how it will look like. I tested some of the features like voice note, the keyboard and GIF and it was cool, but I could not see any emoji there and I hope the team will add that because it is one of the features I was hoping to test. I saw some GIF for birthda, Love and others although they are not much. Also the option of adding more is also there for those of us that will like to add our own. I also add pictures to check the photo quality if it will reduce the quality to save data but it was okay for me.
https://i.ibb.co/mDznkJz/Screenshot-2023-0724-164848.png


Signing in Maxin Safe
After I was done with the preparatory stage, downing the Mornin Key and the Mixin Messenger, Adding pin, creating contacts and setting an emergency contact, I went back the the Mixin Safe website to scan the barcode there using my Mixin Messenger on my mobile. After scanning, it redirected me to where I will created my New Safe to complete the registration. The process was completed after paying a fee of an upgraded plan and funding my account.
https://i.ibb.co/7zrNkS8/IMG-20230723-180350.png

I used my system to complete the finally process which was bold enough with every contents in the website much more visible and comprehensive. I was directed to pay a fee upto $2 worth of Bitcoin but I decided to pay more because I don't want a situation where the price of Bitcoin may fluctuate and the worth of Bitcoin I paid is not up to $2 again.
https://i.ibb.co/9pG8TGR/Screenshot-7.png

I was surprised that after I paid and it was confirmed, I was asked to claim my remaining balance because the amount I paid was more than the exact fee. It was amazing showing that they have a refund policy on subscription.
https://i.ibb.co/KzhGpxp/IMG-20230724-174219.png

I funded my account after I was able to subscribe to see how fast it was and if after multiple transactions what there fee would look like. Although after this review, I have plans of using Mixin Safe because it has a good structure and comprehensive interface.
I was able to find out that there fee is high and I hope the team will do something about it.

I normally get notifications from my Mixin Messenger on all my transactions and things I do on my New Safe account on there website. Using the app was quite an impressive adventure for me learning new things.


Experience
My experience so far was handsome although the initial stage was a pretty confusing when I was about opening a New Safe account. mixin Messenger and the use of Mornin Key was the best option for me because I also tried using Bitcoin Core with Mixin Messenger but I couldn't continue because of some minior error I made. Although that was for me why some persons may prefer Ledger, Bitcoin Core than Mornin Key. The app need some modification interms of network fee and adding more features. Paying more than the fee and getting a refund for excessive payment is amazing.


Conclusion
I think there should be a need for a video description of the steps one need to follow to get to the final stage. This will enhance those who do not know how to get about completing the final stage of creating a New Safe. I noticed there was no way I can reduced the network fee which made it fixed. There should be option to adjust network fee for those who might be ready to wait for a longer time for there transaction to be confirmed.

I think there are no doubt that the above description explains that you need to use Mixin Safe service. Don't post a review without testing the service by yourself. If found you will be asked to refund the payment and you will be banned then tagged.

Someone PMed me this
It's just ridiculous even to ask.

You have two days to submit the reviews. Please don't miss the deadline.

Cheers,

Here my review,

I used IOS 16.5.1 with iPhone 13.

1. First, I have installed Mixin Safe version 0.40.2 which is already in my country.
Look like Mixin safe (android) not already on my country, so if someone here from Indonesia can not received any sms using Indonesia Phone number, Use online phone number such as online-sms.org. I used it and don't have problem so far.

https://i.postimg.cc/P5Rbt6Yg/IMG-3958.jpg

2. Then after Installed Mixin Messenger, I prepare to install Mornin Key, but after I look that application is not free, I going to try TestFlight where I got to try it for free

https://i.postimg.cc/MHHKKYyL/IMG-3959.jpg

Both are installed successfully on my phone. all going smoothly without a problem.

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I am going through using a mixin-safe site website, where I can log in itu using my phone.

I open https://safe.mixin.zone/login and scan that code on my phone.

https://i.postimg.cc/g0GRNXBL/image-2023-07-23-234506292.png

In my phone I got Request Authorized which can read all, then I must put my PIN to able login on the website on the PC.

https://i.postimg.cc/bw9Lyj7b/image-2023-07-23-234848770.png

I succesfull login mixn safe website on my PC.

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The next step is I have to create a new safe

https://i.postimg.cc/Yq3mjqSp/333.png

Select safes button, then write your custom name on the website like below:

https://i.postimg.cc/kXn2r3vL/a.png

Then click next, then I will through to my Mornin Key in my phone to scan the code below.

https://i.postimg.cc/ryGDYFxS/b.png

Here is the picture I scan from my phone:

https://i.postimg.cc/FRk5znYw/IMG-3960.png https://i.postimg.cc/W3kCTFKv/IMG-3961.png https://i.postimg.cc/s28qk9Tm/IMG-3962.png

Here the picture on my PC while I scan it on my phone:

https://i.postimg.cc/rw96v3gZ/c.png https://i.postimg.cc/FHv5CNbJ/d.png https://i.postimg.cc/rFx29K4k/ee.png

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I try to send 0.001 BTC from my own wallet (electrum, received 0.003 payment from the manager yesterday) to Mixin Messenger, here is the process picture below:

https://i.postimg.cc/qRwzVct5/IMG-3965.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/PJqNtLYr/IMG-3966.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/pr1ry2JQ/IMG-3967.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/gcMngDbw/IMG-3968.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/dtLDpyJ5/IMG-3969.jpg

how good Mixin Messenger is because they used a bech32 address with a low fee.

After the deposit was confirmed, I received a message from the team mixin if I got 0.001 BTC received on my mixin wallet

https://i.postimg.cc/fk4W3qkG/IMG-3971.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/pVmDF9pC/IMG-3972.jpg

All deposit into my wallet is going smoothly without any problem.

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I have to upgrade the plan to continue:

https://i.postimg.cc/QC7wSyHb/ff.png

I try using Mixin Pay and got a 0.00006 BTC QR Code for payment.

https://i.postimg.cc/wBt1cY73/1.png https://i.postimg.cc/N0JvZC81/IMG-3973.jpg

And done, I paid the payment using mixin pay from my phone.

I received new safe approval

https://i.postimg.cc/WprqDVk4/image-2023-07-24-093601215.png

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I try deposit to safes, but a bit surprised that have a 0.00072 BTC fee, but it's ok, I sent it to my safes.

https://i.postimg.cc/ZK6dBSXc/image-2023-07-24-094540752.png

I received btc only a second, it is going smoothly and I don't have a problem with the deposit so far.

https://i.postimg.cc/B6JhypHW/4.png

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I try sending it back to my Electrum address,

https://i.postimg.cc/NjcQNyb3/a.png https://i.postimg.cc/Hs5p4000/b.png

And must approve by 1 threshold member on my phone.

https://i.postimg.cc/P5dcLmKf/IMG-3975.jpg

I successfully made all transactions with multisig wallet. All good, I don't have problem, all transation (deposit and withdraw )I made from electrum > mixin > safes > and back again in my electrum.

https://i.postimg.cc/kGq1718v/1.png

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I try to add contact my friend and send directly link to his phone number and also add my brother's number contact.

https://i.postimg.cc/qvnVQfGY/IMG-3970.jpg

If someone here want to add my mixin messager ID, here my number: 41175777

About emergency contact, I don't find it on my phone, maybe because I used testflight or I missing something, I am not sure about it.

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This is my 1st-time experience using the multi-sig wallet. Look like fun and interesting to continue this application. So far I don't have a problem with the application, all going smoothly and comfortably for me. But I have a suggestion to the team and developer, If they can make a fee transaction is less than 0.0007 I think will make people come here to try this application.

Bitcointalk username: TryNinja

I went through this without reading any other review or even doing too much research about the product so I could have a truly first impression. First thing is that going directly to the "Get Started" page without at least checking the "Technology" page was a nightmare and I was completely lost. I had no idea what exactly was an "Owner Wallet" or "Members Wallet", or even what the Mornin Key or the Mixin Messenger app were for. The following text will be my first impressions finding out what the heck is Mixin Safe:

What I would do is rename the "Technology" page to "How it works" or at least add a warning before the "Get Started" page indicating that one should probably read how the product works before (obviously, but I can usually learn things on-the-fly and this was a bit too much). I tried setting up everything before reading that page and I had more questions than answers:

"Do I need both Mornin Key and Mixin Messenger apps?".
"Which one will actually hold my 1/3 key? And for what do I need the other one?".

I was under the impression that the Mornin Key was my wallet for the owner key (1/3) and the Mixin Messenger was the wallet for my trusted counterparty (2/3).

Of course I later found out that the Mornin Key (owner) will hold the first 1/3 key and the second 1/3 key will actually be composed of as many users as I want through the Mixin Messenger app. "Oh, now it makes sense". Still, I wish this was better explained on that screen.

Even better, also add a small explanation on each step so people understand the basic concepts. On the first step: "Select the wallet that will control your owner's private key responsible for 1/3 of the vault"; Second step: "Your friends or trusted ones will be responsible for the second key through the mixin messenger app", etc... I think it would improve the user experience if there is a direct explanation about both apps and what they are needed for.

Some stuff from the FAQ should probably also be added next its related step itself. For example, on the "Set Emergency Contact" step, there is no explanation on what is that for (and not everybody will read the FAQ).

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Now to the process itself...

First thing is that I tried doing everything on my phone as I'm traveling far away from home and I have no computer/laptop with me. I could NOT do that as I need to scan a QR code from the login page (with Mixin Messenger) and it's just not possible to scan a QR from a phone from the phone itself (I had both the apps and page open on the same phone). Maybe add an option so the user can paste his session/code directly (I noticed the QR points to some kind of unique UUID). A few days later I found a PC on a hotel I'm staying and here we are!

Logged in with my phone, went to "Safes", created a new safe... oh, so here is where they ask for my owner wallet (Mornin Key), cool! Scanned the QR with the Mornin Key app, created a new key for my sick-vault and clicked next.

Now to add the Mixin Messenger members responsible for the second 1/3 key! First thing I disliked is that you need a phone number to create an account at the Mixin Messenger (why not allow email-only registrations?). But well, at least I got a local sim on my trip I can use as a "throwaway"...

Anyways... I remembered of a service that allows me to rent a phone number, so I reinstalled the app on my phone and created a new account to test with 2 members (me and a fake one). Added him in a 2/2 vault, paid the $2 (loved how many coins you accept and how quick the payment is processed) and when redirected back the page wouldn't let me proceed because I still needed to upgrade my plan. Waited a bit and it just moved on. Signed the vault creation approval with my owner wallet (Mornin Key) and it's done! Now time to send some coins...

Sent just a little bit since I was scared I would lose access to the second signer (the one I used a SMS rent service for). 1 confirmation later and I could see the balance on the page.

Went to the New Transaction option and tried sending everything to a new address. Cool thing that I received a Mixin Messenger notification for every step (first the deposit and now the transaction approval request). Now this is where something odd happened. I scanned the approval QR code with the app and a bunch of random "receivers" showed up on the transaction. "EOS Mapping", " Calculator", "Mornin", "Mixin Logs", and a symbol I can't type. Who were those? And I was apparently sending them 0 safeBTC (what the heck is this?). Anyways, I accepted it (because why not?) and it seems like everything worked out. Now to the second signer...

I try to login to the second signer again and the SMS rent service logged me out. Got logged in again and the number was gone (:P). I spent some time thinking what I would do now that I couldn't login to the second signer. "Is my $$ gone?", well at least now we know why it's important to add an emergency contact and make sure you have access to your account. Still, I couldn't stop wondering how things would be different if I could have used an email address to register the account. Some more thinking and I found out you can actually reactivate an old number by paying a $3 fee, so this is what I did and it worked!

And now all I had to do was sign a last time with my Mornin Key (owner wallet). Boom, transaction sent! Interestingly enough, looks like I didn't get any fee deducted from the amount sent (do you guys cover that?).

The product reminds me of the Gnosis vault multisig (now called Safe.global?), that even Vitalik Butterin uses to safeguard his ETH: https://safe.global

Great to see this kind of service on Bitcoin's native chain (no sidechain with solidity-like contracts). I would definitely use it if I had 7-8 digits worth of BTC (assuming I could check everything is bullet proof and 100% legit). Less than that I honestly don't think I would pay $100/year, but that's me. After understanding the entire process and what each party needs to do (and with which app), it becomes quite simple. Still, I think the UI and UX when you start (before you login) could be more straightforward and more self explanatory as it takes a bit of time to get familiarized with the process. The dashboard UI itself is great and I had no problems with that.

Here is a screnshot of me approving the tx with the almost-lost second signer, in a Windows 7 computer that I found in my hotel. :P

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/25/QTBwf.png

Bitcointalk username: CryptSafe
                                                                                   MY REVIEW
A brief review of my experience with the Mixin App

First and foremost I had to read through the instructions here on the mixin service board before proceeding. After this, I saw a link that I clicked directing me to the Mixin safe website then there I saw the link to download the mornin' key and the Mixin messenger app. The downloading and installation process was not too difficult but the second phase was a bit technical and it takes one with vast experience in crypto and wallet installation to know how to handle it. This phase was the scanning of app QR codes to gain access to your personal dashboard which was a bit technical too.

https://i.ibb.co/TgsS23j/IMG-20230725-062643.jpg (https://ibb.co/TgsS23j)

https://i.ibb.co/Q9rpvsx/morninkey.jpg (https://ibb.co/Q9rpvsx)

Mixin Customer Care Service and Mixin Chat
The customer care service was top-notch. The representative was very fast and actively responded to my concerns and the situation at hand. I will say that from my experience and little engagement with the care support, the mixin team and organization have a good communication structure and relationship with their users. The messenger chat is quite alright as there are lots of features such as the emojis and other options made available.The message delivery was very fast from both ends and has a double blue tick to show the sender that the receiver from the other end has seen the message sent to them.

https://i.ibb.co/GcFBzw5/1st-mixinchat.png (https://ibb.co/GcFBzw5)


Creating of Mixin App pin

After downloading the mixing app, I had to set my login password which requires a 6-digit number and up to a five times verification input process which I find too lengthy of a process. Possibly a three-time would be okay since one has written down the pin in a safe place.

Creating of Mixin safe

Before creating the mixin safe, I had to follow the process of scanning via the app QR code from the website using my mixin app to gain access to my mixin dashboard. After doing the scanning, I got a notification on my app to have successfully signed into mixin safe. The process was quite alright but if the developers or team could make it easier for one to log in manually through a password and user ID  that would be very nice because not everyone sometimes could be free to use the QR code option.
https://i.ibb.co/LSyqHhM/MIXINSAFE-LOGIN.jpg (https://ibb.co/LSyqHhM)  https://i.ibb.co/F8bhYnt/MIXINLOGIN2.jpg (https://ibb.co/F8bhYnt)


Linking my Mornin key  to my Mixin safe

After I had successfully created my Mixin safe account through the QR code scanning of my wallet, the next phase was for me to link my morning key to my Mixin safe for transaction approval. This I believe is done so as to protect the holder's fund if there be any unauthorized transaction taking place elsewhere without the holder's consent. This is a very good step and a nice idea by the mixin team to have come up with such a sophisticated method to protect users' funds.

https://i.ibb.co/RT96gcH/linking-1.png (https://ibb.co/RT96gcH)
  https://i.ibb.co/PDJTdCK/linking-approval-1.jpg (https://ibb.co/PDJTdCK)


Purchase of Upgrade Plan
The next phase was the purchase of my upgrade plan which I needed to start the process by making payments for the grade I want. I opted for the 2pUSD option because it was the first time I was trying it out and as such  I needed to test run so as not to encounter any difficulties if I do, I would not have any reasons to bother as the funds were little and I can try out with another fund. I started by clicking on the upgrade plan option and it took me to the next page where is saw a three-plan upgrade option and I opted for the 2pUSD plan. I clicked on it and I was taken to the next page which was the payment processors with lots of payment processors and crypto payment of choice. I opted for Bitcoin as that was the available one that I can make payments very fast.

https://i.ibb.co/FxCZwyH/Access-to-upgrade-plan.png  https://i.ibb.co/BKQwRJ4/Access-to-upgrade2.png (https://ibb.co/FxCZwyH) https://i.ibb.co/bsnbDPp/linking-1-approval.jpg (https://ibb.co/bsnbDPp) https://i.ibb.co/LpZHW77/accessto-upgrade-4.png (https://ibb.co/LpZHW77)

I made a transfer of 0.000645 BTC ($18.79) into my mixin messenger app and from there i made the payment via QR code from my app direct to my mixin safe account for the upgrade for which i choose the scan option payment vendor. The process was quite easy but confirmation process on the  mixin pay safe took time (47 minutes) before it was confirmed which is not alright. If the process of confirmation can be narrowed down it would be nice.

https://i.ibb.co/Cw3f2cX/transaction-proof.jpg (https://ibb.co/Cw3f2cX) https://i.ibb.co/1zxTsqv/transaction-proof2.jpg (https://ibb.co/1zxTsqv) https://i.ibb.co/pyFtjsd/transaction-proof-3.jpg (https://ibb.co/pyFtjsd)  
https://i.ibb.co/HnNnZf1/payment-confirmation-2.jpg (https://ibb.co/HnNnZf1)
https://i.ibb.co/3dy8M4p/payment-confirmation1.jpg (https://ibb.co/3dy8M4p)

Mixin pay deposit and withdrawal

The deposit and withdrawal process was not much stressful as the process was initially as the payment gate way is already been activated  as i already did. I made payment direct from my mixing app as it was there i had the funds kept  which made it much easier for me. It was an automatic payment process as i  scanned through the QR code on my mixin safe pay dashboard although the confirmation time still remains the same but the funds got to my wallet address with mixin pay and was confirmed. The withdrawal process was easy as i had to copy and paste my wallet address from my mixin messenger app to the website then I  approved the withdrawal then the next page popped up but i noticed it kept loading for a long time without any feedback or message.

https://i.ibb.co/jkg9pZN/w-and-d-1.png (https://ibb.co/jkg9pZN) https://i.ibb.co/PrqWTNL/w-and-d-2.png (https://ibb.co/PrqWTNL) https://i.ibb.co/mHqMGJr/w-and-d-3.png (https://ibb.co/mHqMGJr) https://i.ibb.co/hZG5LgC/w-and-d-4.png (https://ibb.co/hZG5LgC) https://i.ibb.co/L5xHV0L/w-and-d-5.png (https://ibb.co/L5xHV0L) https://i.ibb.co/4F38Rsx/w-and-d-6.png (https://ibb.co/4F38Rsx)



Nevertheless, i noticed i recieved  a safeBTC on my mixin mesenger app wallet of 0.0001 safeBTC with no monetary value attached so i was wondering if it could be the withdrawal that i made from my mixin safe account.

https://i.ibb.co/mHBRs5W/Screenshot-2023-07-25-18-34-15-30-6670f6904a8c48a024624659411e2f6d.jpg (https://ibb.co/mHBRs5W)  https://i.ibb.co/93VjJJc/Screenshot-2023-07-25-18-33-55-29-6670f6904a8c48a024624659411e2f6d.jpg (https://ibb.co/93VjJJc)


I noticed as well that there is no transaction option for activities table which would have better categorized the nature of the transaction which was carried out on the mixin safe pay dashboard. From the overall look, the table looks more elaborate but would be okay if the transaction option such as deposit/withdrawal is added to it.
https://i.ibb.co/wzbHbph/mixin-pay-actiities.png (https://ibb.co/wzbHbph)  

General Observations

1. The fee was too high which is not normal for a small amount of transaction.
2. Long time confirmation which is not convenient for transactions.
3. There was no other means of login except through QR codes which some times might not be convenient for
    users.
4. The payment gateway and process is far too time consuming and not convenient as it would scare away users
    who have no much knowledge on crypto and wallet installations.

Possible Recommendations

1. The high transaction fee should be looked into to minimize the cost of running a transaction.
2. The long time confirmation should be narrowed down so as to save much time when conducting a transaction.
3. Possibly, the team should device another means of access into ones mixin safe account other than scanning of  
    QR codes. Email address, user ID and password would be nice.
4. The team should look into a way of reducing the lengthy process involved in activating an account with mixin
    safe pay as no one would want to spend such amount of time ding such where there are other available
    options out there for them. It would be in the best interest for the team to do the needful as regards this
    opinion.

In all, the review exercise was a bit technical and requires one with patience, vast experience and knowledge to install and carry out the process.

                                           My honest Review after using Mixin Safe.



                           This review tells my experience with using Mixin Safe, In terms of


1.Its Security.

2. And the wallet's overall Functionality.


 Wallet installation/ morning key :

The wallet is currently accessible in the play store & Apple Store with a provision of APK download.



https://i.ibb.co/t8WHt1c/Screenshot-2023-07-21-09-38-04-935-com-android-vending.jpg (https://ibb.co/zG0mYtb)



https://i.ibb.co/FXWVnrr/Screenshot-2023-07-25-00-17-27-006-org-easyweb-browser.jpg (https://ibb.co/1Mn6bgg)



Morning key :

Here I was asked to pay a few dollars to enable me to install the morning key app, having done that, this is where was provided with my


seed phrases that guarantee me full ownership or access to the wallet.


https://i.ibb.co/VBvxYGX/IMG-20230725-132746.jpg (https://ibb.co/ys8pFCL)

  

https://i.ibb.co/KGXytPJ/Screenshot-2023-07-21-09-40-44-491-com-android-vending.jpg (https://ibb.co/xsD5nkN)


  
https://i.ibb.co/9njN2Gk/Screenshot-2023-07-21-09-41-40-663-one-mixin-messenger.jpg (https://ibb.co/6Y5mbN7)




Phone number verification:

Hereafter the installation of the mixin messaging App, it required providing a phone to be able to access the wallet.


 Wallet pin creation:

In this pin creation stage,

 I was amazed to have seen that you have to pass 4 confirmation processes to ascertain you can remember your pin.
 


https://i.ibb.co/8KN1BHt/Screenshot-2023-07-21-09-45-26-310-one-mixin-messenger.jpg (https://ibb.co/w0B5Lfj)


Supports Multi cryptocurrency :

The wallet currently supports tons of different cryptocurrencies/coins such as
BTC,  
ETH,
SOL,
BNB, etc.
Which allows users to be their bank and have total control of their funds seamlessly.
 etc.




                                                            Transaction

 

Deposit:

After the installation and setup of the wallet I had to deposit some amount of Bitcoin to test-run my new wallet,

the wallet uses a good bc1 address, and the deposit was successfully received.



https://i.ibb.co/pnThNHh/Screenshot-2023-07-25-01-55-25-879-one-mixin-messenger.jpg (https://ibb.co/V3GwbFw)


https://i.ibb.co/5WMWsXM/Screenshot-2023-07-25-01-55-34-796-one-mixin-messenger.jpg (https://ibb.co/WWxWBNx)



Withdrawal:


I also had to withdraw immediately to ensure both deposits and withdrawals are working smoothly

and indeed the withdrawal was received in the destination wallet without any delays.

This ascertains that the wallet runs smoothly.


https://i.ibb.co/ySxHrXj/Screenshot-2023-07-25-02-14-26-833-one-mixin-messenger.jpg (https://ibb.co/M6JFms0)


Touring my new wallet and Navigating its features:


1. I realized it has an option for a connected DAPPS feature where users can connect their wallets to other blockchain platforms.

2. Hidden assets feature

3. Receiving money with Mixin Id:

Users can send funds to fellow mixin users just by using using your mixin Id.



Mixin Messenger :


You can add people using their mixin id or phone numbers /contact if the person is using a mixin safe messenger /wallet.

Added some to text out his this works, It works perfectly just as other messaging apps do.

https://i.ibb.co/sy2K3Tr/IMG-20230725-142835.jpg (https://ibb.co/Tmk4hQ5)


              
                                                                                             Observation,  Recommendation, and Conclusion



  2. Phone number verification :



Here is a stage I'm not too comfortable with as it overlooks privacy,  

which is Paramount in the crypto space and I suggest an alternative verification method be used to replace the phone method such as an

email verification method.




3. The multi-signature integration in the wallet makes requires multiple participants in the authorization of a transaction,  

and this feature or added layer of security makes it difficult for hackers to access one's wallet without proper approval from the

participants.  

Bitcointalk username: SmartGold01

AREAS OF REVIEW:
1. MIXIN MESSENGER
2. MIXIN SAFE
3. MORNIN KEY

Tools used:
1 Android device with 2GB Ram which I installed my Mixin Messenger
1 Android Device with 4GB Ram which I installed my Mornin Key
Reason for multiple device used: Mornin Key don't operate smoothly with lower version of both Android and IOS since it usually send an error message.

MIXIN MESSENGER: downloaded direct using the provided link from Mixin safe website:
The user interface and the appearance is humanly friendly to operate on just as some other social media apps are being used, since is stress free and it doesn't need one to be technically sound to have it set up for a normal operation and usage.

Connecting with users is somewhat a bit difficulty and differently to me while adding them to my contact list, unlike other social media where you don't need to face much difficulty connecting and adding people to your contact list.

Because basically it requires only those that has the Mixin ID to be associated with that has same mobile phone registered with on the Mixin platform. Left alone with the individual's username the search option won't work smoothly until you have to contact whom you want to add to give you the correct details used. I contacted few people from my local board to help me complete this process, succeeded adding up  about 3 contact's.

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Mixin Messenger wallet: The Mixin messenger has an inbuilt wallet on it which has a default 40 different supported coins/tokens in different network. With such feature they could also be used as a wallet and not just a social chat app.

Deposit to the Mixin messenger wallet:
I used the Bitcoin receive option: I was able to deposit $2 worth of BTC into the wallet, as show on the image below: Along the process I realized the unconfirmed deposit was shown on my deposit history, unlike others which deposit only displays when they are fully confirmed both on the blockchain and also with the deposited wallet. Perhaps, even as the deposit was showing as an incoming transaction the balance was not directly and immediately reflecting on my wallet.

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Mornin Key:
This is the security which would be used to protect the safe; its nearly impossible to withdraw the funds on the mixin safe without this key it's being bind with the Mixin safe
The Key is not free: Have to pay for the APP before I was able to download it from my Play store.

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Mornin Key security:
It displays option either for me to allow it make use of my phone biometric or set in a new pin which could be used to execute transaction in the app.
PIN: It required for a six digit pin set up.
Phrase: It consist of 12 generated words. After the phrase generation user would be required to confirm the phrase in the next phase which is the a nice way to be sure that the phrase is securely backup.

Mixin Safe:
Steps required:
Security/Key: I choose Mornin Key
Owner's set-up: Choosed a custom name

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https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/25/QtEIf.jpeg
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Members: Used 3 over 2
Which I was able to reached out few individuals from my locality (Localboard), they helped me get a code from their mixin messenger in other to enable me verify them below my emergency contact list. I will cover their names for security purpose as they since they already used their forum name as mixin messenger username.

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Funding my Safe: From my observation during the safe creation I witnessed only 2 network available which happens to be Bitcoin and litcoin. Along the line I had to choose Bitcoin. During the funding I was asked "allowed to deposit using Bitcoin network". I transferred Bitcoin from my external wallet to my safe address. I couldn't capture the time used for the deposit to appear on my safe as, the deposit was taken a bit longer time to move from my external wallet so, I left it to attend to other home chores coupled with my baby made me to have a divided attention of not recording how long it took to deposit.  

After some while I got a notification, when I checked back my mixin messenger that my safe has been funded. Blurred the sensitive part's

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/25/Qteqc.jpeg

Fund withdrawal process:
Member 1 is myself (SmartGold01), I observed any of the member irrespective of which number they were being added and can approve the transaction first it must done accordingly, the only part which couldn't switched was the part where me being the safe creator will have to approve the final part of the transaction through my mornin Key.


In summary:
It took me quite some days in other for me to finish up this review, handling my daughter and husband coupled with family members who always come around and other activities are yet to be mentioned. From my experience basically, the safe is quite interesting as it has also added to my crypto knowledge in general, its as safe and a true replication of its name as it implies, those security measures are really worth it.

Suggestions: I would suggest when the upgrade is done on the safe as I can see that the mixin safe is on the beta version. The mixin team should try to render a free safe service, that's where users would try how it works, since the $2 might be lot of money to risk in some regions.
Also the Red warming at the top of the mixin safe website. If not for the sake of the review if I come across a site warning me about my deposit I might completely avoid it.

Additional payment option: Right now their are lot of network out their and every one have their preferred network of use, but the litecoin and Bitcoin network weren't enough for the safe deposit, addition for more choices should be implemented as quickly as possible so that one won't have to go through rigorous way to fund using the only available payment option to carry out their payment.

Introduction:
The home page of the website is simple and has a transparent background. The website has no registration link but it has sign in link. And I used the mixin messenger app to scan the code in the website to login. And the website can load faster in all browsers.
The process to some extent was complicated because of the use of different devices. And this made me to spend some physical cash both in transport and to borrow extra device to set up the Mixin Safe Wallet
All the processes will be breaking down for clear understanding.

The process of installation
The first thing I did was to install the mixin Messenger App in my Android phone and the app has 12.46mb which made the downloading very fast with good network. After the installation, I continued to insert my mobile phone number with the country code and I clicked the Captcha then the 4 digit OTP was sent to the number provided. And my wallet name was asked for you to continue the process. And a pop up message "Get a Net Wallet". Create a pin page appeared.

Six (6) digit pin was asked to set up and I used a very simple digit for the pin and the app rejected the pin and stated that, "the pin is too simple". So I have to used another complex digits for the pin and the pin confirmation was four times and finally the pin was successfully set. And a welcome message was send to me.

The wallet home page is just like the Trust Wallet home page which has Receive and Send with other cryptocurrencies.
[img width=]https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/07/25/Qzyhz.png[/img]

The whole problem is in the mornin key app installation. The app is not working in all the Android phone. I installed it in Techno Spark 6 Go 2020, but the app did not open. At first it shows pure white screen.
Then the second box is
And this means that the app is not compatible with all the Android phones. But the mixin Messenger App works with all the advance Androids but the mornin key app is not like that.
Installation
After the installation of the mornin key app in the upgraded version of Android Phone with 3gb and 62gb rom, I was asked to put my security passcode then "write down your 12 mnemonic phrase".

Problem I Faced Here
When the mnemonic phrase was given to me, I had two identical words as "Cupboard and Cupboard" so in the process of writing the phrase in the box, if I clicked one of the "Cupboard" the second one would be automatically highlighted so the confirmation of the mnemonic phrase was a tough time for me, and because of that I could not passed that stage. So I have to delete the first account and create new account and new mnemonic phrase and everything was successfully submitted.
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After the installation of the mornin key app, I went to the main website of Mixin Safe (https://safe.mixin.zone/login) and clicked on the login and scan the code as I said earlier in the introduction.

Mixin Safe Wallet
After scanning the Maxin Safe Bar Code from the laptop, the both devices were successfully login and the welcome page appeared and the home page of Mixin Safe shows the total balance and other features. But I can't scanned the code in my mobile phone.

The depositing process

I deposited 0.0000665 BTC and transaction fee was very high as of the time and I was warned but I still continue the process.

After all the installations of the two apps, I made a deposit.of 0.000037 was successfully entered and reflected in the mixin Messenger App wallet.
And the balance did not reflect in the mixin safe wallet.
And also I used three (3) device this process to be successful.
1. I installed the Mixin Messenger App in the first Android phone.
2. I installed the Mornin Key app in another Android phone because it didn't opened in the first Android phone.
3. I tried to scanned the code in the website from the second phone, and after login successful from the both phones, the phone that I scanned the code shows half screen, so I could not see all the information on the screen so I have to use laptop to rescan the code and I see the full screen.

Withdrawal
After depositing the amount of 0.000037 BTC, I tried to see if I can withdraw $1 but the transaction fee was much more higher than the total amount to be withdrewn  so I left it for the main time but will still participate in the site if the fee reduces.

First the process of opening mixin safe wallet is too cumbersome. Using the three softwares for the registration all in the name of security is not recommended by me. Assuming I am alone and there is no any other devices and no any other person is available to assist me then directly, I can't open the wallet. So that Process should be reviewed by the software developers.

Secondly the transaction or network fee is too much as a new company that needs visitors. I advise you to reduce the fee.

Thirdly, you have to work on the mornin key app because it is not working in most of the Android phone like the messenger which works almost in all.

Fourthly, I recommend on the customer care service attendance, their response is very fast and okay.
Finally, frankly speaking, the process is complex.

Bitcointalk username: Logfiles

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My review

1. Downloads and set up

Setting up the mixin safe using the mornin Key was my preferred option because;
→ There was no access to a ledger hardware wallet at the time of testing the service.
→ There was not enough resource and time to install and set up a full Bitcoin core node.

As a first timer, during the set-up process. I faced some hiccups due to the couple of apps I had to install. The instructions are not quite straight forward (You install the app or do something as per the guidelines, but you have no idea why you are even doing a particular step)

I suggest a proper documentation is made on how to set up the mixin safe, with easier to understand instructions in articles and videos for the newbies.

For example
Yes, but what is their purpose to the mixin safe we are trying to set up?


Maybe the hypertext link to the Mixin safe website should be inserted in the highlighted area so that it's a little more direct.

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2. Mixin messenger

Downloading it and setting it up was pretty straight forward, but I had a challenge with one of my mobile network providers as I was not able to receive the SMS verification code.

→ Add more ways of verifying the phone number, like an automatic phone-call. Something similar to what is on WhatsApp.
→ How about a secondary email verification for those that don't want to use SMS verification or use their phone numbers for registering?

The Mixin messenger's guidelines probably have some error, which could be misleading
It says, Coinmarketcap and coingecko suggest that there are only about 10,000 tokens. Please correct that.

Fiat Currencies
Add more local fiat currencies around the world if you pick exchange rate data from platforms like Coinbase. Cryptocurrencies are now getting known world over. Currently, the APP supports only 15 of them.

Adding contacts
The QR Code scanner looks a little out of place, maybe another QR code scanner next to Mixin ID or Phone number search box would be great
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/26/QEM3j.png  https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/26/QECpP.png

Setting Emergency Contact
This was straight forward, easy steps to follow with clear instructions

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3. Sign in Mixin Safe

Signing in using the QR code was easy, but I do wonder what happens if I have only one device? I was lucky to have 2 mobile phones and a laptop. What about someone with only one phone, how do they access the Mixin safe?

The Mixing safe could also do well with an option for dark mode  ;)

Settings

Settings → General → Appearance

→ Again, very limited fiat currency options. This time only four!
→ Only 2 languages available. English and Simplified Chinese. You might need to work bringing in more Languages.

Setting up safe.
No hiccups at all, but we might need simple and detailed instructions that can help a layman understand what they are doing and why they are doing so.

I also put my computer to sleep, got back to it 8 hours later, and I just got right back into the safe's account minus any log in prompt/verification. I think security should be tightened in regard to the safe.

Pay To test

I used bitcoin as a payment option.

Under scan to pay, you should add more wallets, with emphasis on open source noncustodial wallets. For example, even with electrum, one can scan to pay.

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Under payment method, you should also add an option to open in wallet like you see in sites such as bitrefill. Once you click on the button, the wallet installed in the device opens up automatically with the order details (address and amount to be spent)

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I also saw somewhere that order expires in 48 hours. We know that sometimes Bitcoin transactions can take more than 48 hours to get confirmed if the fee paid is very low. What happens if the transaction gets confirmed after 48 hours? Does the service process an automatic refund?

On my test transaction, the order got confirmed, and I was redirected to the new safe page summary and also received a message on the mixin messenger about by subscription after which I proceeded to create the safe

Mysterious Recovery tab

Once I created the safe, A new tab appear (Recovery tab) With no explanation or few helpful notes in the tab, I was not exactly sure what its purpose was exactly for. I guess so many newbies will also be clueless about this.
It had some details about my safe and stuff like that, with a last transaction date from 2001! More confusion. And then when I reloaded the page, everything was gone, just like that.

Depositing

There is an error from receive deposit. Once I clicked on it, it instead redirected me to the page similar as where one is trying to withdraw from the safe.

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I ended up depositing through Safes → Receive deposits (on clicking 3 dots) → Deposit address generated.
Once my deposit was confirmed, this is what I saw in my Recovery page.

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I never set the lock time to 4 days, so I have no idea what happened. How one can modify the lock time, if it's even possible? What if I want 10 days or 30 days?

New Recovery
I wanted to see the guidelines, but the link took me no where. Please fix that.
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I tried reading about safeBTC and I didn't understand anything. What is this?

Anyway, I just did a new recovery by holder keys method and see what happens.
Once I approved, there was not much information about what was happening next. No transaction ID, No record about the receiving address, Not many details about the transaction/activity I had just carried out. No idea whether the Bitcoin is going to appear in my address or not. And if yes, approximately after how long?

In summary, this is how the page looked like

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4. Conclusion

The idea behind the mixin safe is a great one, but the process involved in setting up the safe is tedious and does not have proper documentation. I suggest you invest a lot more in helpful articles and Tutorials, including Explainer videos.
If new users with less technical knowledge are going to use this platform. Ensure that process is precise and well to the point.
Most of the other suggestions are within my review.

Thanks for the opportunity to review your platform.

First of all, I read all the necessary information about using Mixin Safe and its advantage and I believe that if those users who lost the recovery phase with a big fund are now regretting that if mixin safe was in our time, we would not have suffered such a great loss.
All I learned about Mixin Safe on their website is that the whole systems use three private key processes in which two keys will store by the user while one key will be stored by Mixin. Hardware wallet or mornin is used to save one key while family members who approve transactions store another while the third key will be stored by the mixin team and will be only unlocked when the address remains inactive for one whole year.


I opened the Mixin site on my desktop and there was a tutorial with an image of the setup Mixin safe. From this tutorial, I concluded that I have to use two other apps also(the Mixin app and Mornin app).

Mornin:
This app is used to keep up our privste key and also when we create safe and withdraw we have to sign in in this app too. I download apk file and intall it. at start i have given phrase key to save in safe place and this is all and nothing other to do. This app is quiet easy to use and no need of any mail or phonr number to register. we can also use ledger or other hardware for this purpose.

Mixin:
I search for the desktop app but unfortunately, It's not available yet for a desktop and I have to use a smartphone to download it. I used my smartphone to install it from Play Store.
after downloading I opened the app and it asked for a phone number, by putting in the phone number 4 Digit pin code arrived in 2-3 seconds. by entering the code Mixin app directed me to the main page.

Now first of all I set up a 6-digit pin and now my Mixin app is ready to give me a full view of crypto assets and other chat options. I was thinking that was enough for me and no need for using Mixin Safe but when I start Mixin Safe I recognize that I have to add family and friends contact who save the private keys. I added one Bitcointalk user and family member just by searching through uid. This process worked smoothly and I added contact in no time.

Some good features of Mixin Messenger:

This messenger gives us access to chat with friends with a lot of advanced features like sending audio voice, video, group chat, voice call, and many others.

This app has a built-in wallet with a lot of cryptocurrency available and almost all big tokens (BTC, ETH, BNN, SOL, APTOS, LTC, DASH, KSM, AVAX, Doge, Dot,NEAR AND MANY MORE). We could use this wallet for holding purposes but only the listed token will work. Sending non-listed tokens will result in loss.

We can send a token to our contact without any fee and also receive it from our friends and family just by giving them our public ID.

We could add emergency contact which will help us to log in to our Mixin account if we lost our access to phone number.

we can change the mobile phone number

we can change the text size, and theme, and the best one I like is the dark mode option available.

There are some limitations too in Mixin messenger like no email option, no desktop version for Windows and Linux, Group or channels option

Mixin Safe:
Now, it's time to check the main service. I opened the Safe.mixin.zone site on Laptop and clicked on sign option, scan the code through the mixin app, and Mixin safe opens in no time. this whole process works very smoothly without facing any issues.

Now it's time to create my first safe. As i already checked out the details of creating a safe therefore i faced no issue with it.  during creating a safe I have to sign in through mornin app which I tried without the internet but its not work which means that an internet connection is mandatory to connect with Safe.

I can select a maximum of 5 contacts for the mix-in sign in but all members should be in my contact list otherwise I cannot do it. I set only one(me) for fast but it's not secure. we have to select at least 2-3 family members for better security.

I purchased an upgrade plan using crypto. A lot of payment options are available too. I preferred trx as I was holding and the fee was also low and payment arrived as well as safe was created successfully in 15 seconds.
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I have been given a BTC address and now it's time to deposit some BTC to checkout deposit and withdraw service.

The deposit function is very easy. Just clicked on Received deposit under my created safe and now I am able to scan the address and I deposited 0.00465(135$). Wonder to see that payment arrived after one confirmation which is I think very fast to track fund deposits.
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The deposit is working smoothly and I have faced no issues. The speed of the deposit is very fast. Normally it arrives in our wallet after several confirmations but here it arrives after 1 confirmation.


Now it's time for checking withdraw function. I clicked on a new transaction and default safe was selected for the transaction. if we have more safe then we can also choose any safe for withdraw transaction here. after doing this process now we have to sign in through the Mixin app. This option is best to secure our funds. If anyone steals our private key cannot withdraw without our mixin signin' approval. There is a risk also if other added members are not able to sign in then we cannot withdraw our fund therefore adding members carefully. an automatic message arrive in my mixin app and will received by another member also which is best for security and awareness.

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I purchased a 2$ plan where 1 transaction is free and for the second transaction, we have to buy a plan or credit for the transaction. I proceeded with the free transaction and last I have to sign in through mornin app. BTC arrived in my wallet without any issues very fast.


Conclusion:
I found the whole Mixin safe process very fast and secure and I will recommend it for every Btc and Ltc holder. This is a decentralized way to store our key and can access our fund even if we lose our key (which often happens after a long time). understanding this process is not easy and at first, it's looking a bit complicated process but after processing first then it becomes easy to be familiar with it. In a safe process, we have to sign in to different apps multiple times which is looking boring but best to secure our fund. customer support is online to help you if you face any difficulty in the process. Mixin Safe is still in the beta phase and I hope the team will overcome all drawbacks.

Bitcointalk Username: Potato Chips

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Preface and Mornin Key:

About the reviewer: Average user. Certainly not tech savvy levels but have been in the bitcoin space for a couple of years now. I will be using an old spare phone with second space feature + disposeable numbers

I started by checking the user guide mentioned on the OP. As I don’t have any of the wallets mentioned, I went with Mornin Key.

I used the following as my main guide
https://support.mixin.one/en/article/how-to-use-mornin-key-to-create-mixin-safe-1u1rf36/
https://safe.mixin.zone/start

I installed the apk because that was the easiest route for me. I must admit, I’ve never heard of Mornin Key before so when I saw “Prepare Owner Wallet”, I was expecting a typical crypto wallet but it did not look like one. After some quick digging, it appears it’s a password manager that could store private keys and act as a signer (cmiiw).

Mixin Messenger:

(Note: this bit is more of a help center feedback but I thought I’d include this here to not break the flow).

Next up is installing Mixin Messenger. Because there is a category called “Mixin Messenger” in the help center, ofc I’d view it! Unfortunately, there are only two articles and one of them is broken, see: https://archive.is/gEhRR

On Installing Mixin Messenger article, they forgot to mention a mobile app is still needed for desktop apps which was indicated here: https://mixin.one/messenger

Their help center is obviously bare bones - lots of stuff are missing, the guides aren’t beginner friendly/not as fluid, and there could be typos. I can only guess it’s because it’s pretty much at its first stage when it comes to work progress hence I would suggest indicating such as a precaution and perhaps try to redirect people to your live chat to compensate.

Moving on to the actual app:

I noticed the app relies on phone numbers a lot – registration and emergency contact – which honestly, I’m not a fan of. Emails are just better as they’re a lot more flexible. For instance, it’s pretty easy to setup one email dedicated for a single or couple of services so it’s easier to jump ships when something goes south ++ we could secure our email account with totp/hardware 2FA as a lot of providers have this.

After registration, next step is to invite members. The process is pretty straightforward but I thought to just try and key-in the user’s Mixin ID and it went fine. I tried to add my contact to “emergency contact” and had the following confirmation:

https://i.vgy.me/BZdhBt.png

Okay, makes sense! I tried to still hit “confirm” just to see what happens and was surprised it asked me for a code but of course, no code was sent because we weren’t mutual contacts yet. Moving on, I went to my 2nd account, added the other as my contact, set it as my emergency contact, got the code and process done!

I looked into mixin messenger’s settings and was glad options for users to improve privacy and shoo nasty internet strangers were there. I didn’t like how auto-download media/documents was enabled by default though. I know malwares are unlikely on these type of files but I’d play it safe have it disabled.

Mixin Safe

According from the guide, I should now be able to make a safe! Contrary to previous steps, the article cover this one step-by-step so it was easy to follow. Hopefully, the same fashion will be applied for the rest as well! It also helped that the UI is beginner friendly. I think an average user could go through the steps just fine even without a guide article. Plus points for adding a progress section the right!

It’s nothing too big but I noticed in order to open my safe, I have to always tap the three-dotted button and hit “view”

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Quality of life suggestion: double (or single?) clicking the safe should also allow us to view our safe.

Gotta say, one address per safe is certainly a drawback since it’s better for privacy to use as many.

As for the last step, I was able to withdraw pretty smoothly. I did not even needed a guide, the website was great. One thing though, I noticed some strange profiles when I was trying to approve my transaction. It would be nice if they’re more professional looking.

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Ending Note, thoughts?

The setup wasn't really convenient however self help guides and in-app guides should help alleviate. Perhaps, using a wallet you're already familiar with would also make a difference e.g. for ledger users.

I also think the whole product/service could be better explained in lay man terms.

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Installation of Mornin Keys

I was trying to download and install Mornin keys application from google play store, that time I see in google play store this application is not free it is a paid application. Since I don't have the payment option to pay in google play store, so I chose the second option and then I downloaded and installed the apk application of mornin key which was added in the mixin safe website. After installation everything went smoothly, then I was asked to add a 6 digit password, after adding the password I saw my mnemonic phrase. I copied the password and mnemonic phrase and saved it in a safe place.
 
Installation of Mixin Messenger

I easily downloaded Mixin messenger from google play store and installed it on my phone. But while setting the phone number created problem, because the 4 digit code was not sending to my number in any way. I don't know if other members are facing same problem like me. The 4 digit code didn't come to my phone, so I had to wait an extra 24 hours. After repeatedly failing to get the PIN with my local number, I then had success using a virtual number. Here I think to get the code, it also depends on the country where the user is located. Mixin messenger has many features, the most notable of which is that mobile number and mixin ID number can be added to the user's contact, and group chat can be done after creating a group. So anyone can create community using Mixin messenger. Another good move is that one user can send money to another user using Mixin ID number which is really a useful feature.


Wallet

When you enter the wallet, you will see a list of names of many crypto currencies chains that are popular among crypto users, and there are many currencies that I don't even know about, you can send and receive all those currencies using mixin wallet. I have only done bitcoin transactions using this wallet. All the transections I performed were done without any problems.


Wallet Fees

I added 0.00136896 Btc to mixin wallet for payment and deposit to mixin safe. After adding funds I paid mixin plan upgrade fee from mixin wallet and it was done without any fee. But when I go to deposit in Mixin safe I see the withdrawal fees of mixin wallet is 0.00025 BTC which is very high compared to my wallet funds, I paid $7.3 fee to withdraw $30.7 which is very high. So I think using mixin wallet to transact small amount of funds will be very expensive which will be difficult for normal users to afford. After adding such high fees it will be difficult for mixin wallet to beat the rest of the competitors in the market and take itself to a bigger stage. So the team should decide on these fees, and set acceptable fees as a wallet.


Sign in Mixin Safe

I was able to smoothly login to the mixin safe website using the https://safe.mixin.zone/start link on my laptop by scanning the QR code. Since I had two devices mobile phone and laptop, the login process in mixin safe was very smooth for me, but when a user goes to login using only one device, especially a mobile phone, that user may struggle to access mixin safe.

After sign in done I see this interface all options came in front of me to move to next step, I found very user friendly UI which will be easy to manage everything.


Upgrading Mixin Safe Plan

After I clicked to upgrade plan to standard I was transferred to the mixpay.me website, after coming to this website I found that there are different payment options. Since I had bitcoins, I went to make bitcoin payments and very easily paid from mixin wallet and it was successful in few seconds. I did not think that the payment can be made so fast, but I made the payment very fast and upgraded my plan.



Deposit and Withdrawal

Creating Safe

I have to create multisig safe to get deposit address. I easily created my safe using the Mornin Key option and got the deposit address. This process was also easy.


Deposit

After creating safe and getting bitcoin deposit address, I deposited bitcoin from mixin wallet to mixin safe. I only had to wait as long as it took for the bitcoin network to confirm as I saw bitcoin added to my mixin safe account quickly after the transaction was confirmed. So after creating the safe and getting the bitcoin deposit address, everything can be easily controlled there.



Withdrawal

New transection has to be created to withdraw from Mixin safe. And this process is also a very good idea in terms of security. Because it will not be possible to take withdrawal without owner's approval. So I added new transection from mixin safe and it was confirmed quickly, after a while I checked my own wallet and found that the funds withdrawn from mixin safe were added to my wallet. So it can be said that there is no problem with deposit and withdrawal from Mixin safe, at least I did not face any problem during my testing process.



Conclusion:

Mixin safe is a highly secure platform as authorization is required everywhere, thereby keeping a user's funds safe. Due to the multisign withdrawal mechanism, it is not possible to withdraw without the approval of the main owner of the mixin safe account, so it can be said that a user's funds will be completely safe with mixin safe. But there are some negative aspects, I don't see it as a good thing to make personal information like phone number mandatory to join mixin messenger, because crypto users are always very careful about their personal information. So I think if the team added some other option instead of phone number, it would have saved crypto users from sharing such sensitive personal information and would have been more interested in using this platform.

Bitcointalk username: naira

Finally after 3 days of trying to complete all the processes here's my review (I'm using 2 Android phones because one of the phones can't download Mixin Messenger):

1. Download the Mornin Key application (mobile 1) because this application is paid, so for the first time the application in the playstore costs around $ 2, there is no problem in the installation process, I pay immediately, create a passcode, username and the backup stage is not much different from the method another wallet that I have used.
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2. Download Mixin Messenger on my HP 2, now this is where a problem arose apart from not being available in my homeland, requiring me to find a way to install this application for 2 days and finally, I was able to find a solution including the OTP code which was not easy. Referring to the member's solution, I used a one-time use number, successfully entered my wallet, created a PIN, and deposited bitcoins, then suddenly my account was logged out because someone else was using the number, so I was worried about the balance. which has been deposited.
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3. The support feature welcomes me but it's only a bot and the online support still hasn't responded to me until now and I try again for up to 15 minutes and then I can open my wallet, the balance is still safe.
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4. Received Bitcoin: The deposit process went well but it took more than 30 minutes to receive it. (no problem for transactions) Even though the first deposit was less, a fee was charged 2x the transfer fee.
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5. Sending Bitcoin: here I use a second wallet to process transactions, the fees charged are quite expensive so I made a 2x deposit as mentioned above. Actually I sent it back to my own address. Due to limited balance I didn't test the multisend feature, next time I will test if I have multiple sats already.
Network fee : 0.00021
minimum withdrawal: 0.0001
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6. Send and receive altcoin features: However, the effectiveness and safety of a digital wallet application can be seen from the process of sending and receiving. Because then we will judge whether the wallet is safe or not. The other features are just an additional innovation in order to provide a differentiator from digital wallets in general. For this reason, apart from sending and receiving bitcoins, I also try to make altcoin transactions such as BNB (BEP 20), SOL, Matic, Doge and what I like the most is TRX.

7. The Chat feature is pretty good, but it's really hard for me to add members because no one understands how it works so it's difficult to use this feature.
As a result, I asked for a member ID here so I could test the chat feature as a whole. This feature is very helpful when confirming delivery of crypto, so I found it very useful. Makes me not need to open through a different chat application, because having it provided will make everything easier.

8. Desktop features: Connecting to the desktop view by scanning the QR code and everything can be seen in one view is more convenient and easier to understand. After making a payment of $ 2 without fees because it's free to use Mixinpay, so if you upgrade, you can get extra services rather than free.


Conclusions and suggestions: From start to finish, each application has its own advantages and disadvantages, whether it's a problem with complicated features such as using a cell phone number that users don't like, including me having to provide a number, even if it's a one-time use number. Paid desktop features, Chat etc seem to vary but if the user is just for transactions it might not be hard to use for the casual crypto user.
My advice, whether it's good or bad, is all for the sake of improvement in a better direction. Sorry if my review is not satisfactory but thank you for giving me the opportunity to try this Mixin wallet application.

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naira

Bitcointalk username: SamReomo

This is my review about Mixin Safe and in this review I will describe in detail each feature of this amazing system. The review will describe everything in detail as I try to cover as much I possibly can. I will soon add the screenshots of the review because at time time I'm having some technical difficulties due to shifting to another home.

The Mixin safe website

I have visited the website of Mixin safe and the experience was quite interesting. The exact URL of the site was safe.mixin.zone, and I have visited the website using my Android based smartphone and there wasn’t a lag or delay browsing the site on that device. When I visited the website there was a button named “Get Started” and when I tapped it, I was taken to another page where the information about the Safe was shown in detail. The information include following text “Prepare Owner Wallet, Prepare Members Wallet, Set Mixin Messenger PIN, Add Mixin Messenger Contacts, Sign in Mixin Safe,” and when I scrolled down I found frequently asked questions as well. I have visited the website for sometime and after that I decided to go further and test the applications.

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Mornin Key

Mornin Key was the application I used to approve my safe because I didn’t had access to complete Bitcoin core in order to install the PC version of the safe. I download and installed the APK file of the Mornin Key on my Android based smartphone. I recommend the Mixin team to make the Play Store and App Store version of the application to be free so that users would be more happy to install this application. However, for someone like me a free APK is enough to install an application.

Downloading of Mornin key

When I visited the website of the Mornin Key which was mornin.one, the website interface was similar to the Mixin Safe’s original site, and I didn’t gave further time to browse it in detail because I was basically there to download the Mornin Key. I scrolled all the way down to the bottom of the site and from there I clicked on Mornin Key option, and within a second I was taken to another page where I had the option to download Mornin Key either from Apple App Store or from Google Play Store, and when I clicked on the Play Store one I saw that the Application wasn’t for free. I have never used any paid application because I have never had any purchase on Play Store, and that’s why I revisited the website of Mornin key, and download the APK file from that page. Once the file was download then I installed it for free without any issue, and I began testing of the application.

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Testing of the Mornin Key and Setting Passcode

I installed the Application of my smartphone Poco M3 pro with just 4 GB ram and there wasn’t any issue during installation, and then tapped the app icon to launch it. When the app was launched I had to create a new account and for that I clicked on “Create a new account” button and I was taken to a window where I had to write my account name. I used my Bitcointalk name for the account and then tapped the “Create” button. Soon after that I was taken to another window where I had two options “Use Biometric” or “Use Passcode”, I have selected the Passcode option, and there appeared another window where I had to set a 6 digit passcode to protect my data. I have selected the 6 digit passcode and it asked me to retype the passcode and I have retyped the passcode once again, and within a second my account was created. After that process a pop-up window appeared that asked me to “Secure the account,” and for that it had an option to select a Mnemonic Phrase. I tapped on Start button on that window and it asked me to write my passcode to unlock Mornin key, and after writing the code it gave me a Mnemonic code that I saved instantly, and then I tapped on Next button. After that it asked me to confirm the Mnemonic code and I confirmed it without any issue, and now I was ready to test Mixin Messenger.

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Mixin Messenger and Setting of Pin

In order to test the Mixin Messenger I also used the same Android based smartphone, and I have gone with the same route of installing the APK file directly instead of going with the Play Store one. The installation was pretty smooth, and after the installation I tapped on the Mixin messenger icon to launch the application and it was launched without any lag or errors. Once the app was launched it asked me to write my phone number in order to create the account, and I entered my real phone number to get the verification code, but unfortunately after so many tries and waiting for a long time, I was still unable to get the code on my phone. The code wasn’t coming on my number and that’s why I decided to go with a throwaway number which was already allowed by Royse to be used during registration.  I tried to register my account with a throwaway number and I received a 4 digit code on that number without any issue but after confirming the code I found that someone has already created a mixin account using that number, and after that I tried to log out the account, but unfortunately I never found a log out button even after searing it for 10 minutes, and each time when I tried to load the Mixin messenger the account was already logged in on my app. I decided to “clear all data” of the app so that I can somehow be able to recreate another account and fortunately that worked for me. I have done the process on many throwaway numbers and most of them already were used to create an account by someone, but finally I found a number which was fresh, and I verified my account using that number.

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After that I was taken to a window where I was asked to write my name, and I have written my Bitcointalk account name once again this time and tapped of next arrow. After that step I was taken to a window where I had to create a new wallet for me, and for that I clicked on continue button. After that it asked me to create a 6 digit pin, and I have written my 6 digit pin and clicked on start, and I have to reconfirm the pin for 4 times if I remember and then a small pop-up message appeared “Set PIN successfully,” and a some messages were given by team Mixin. I clicked on that tab and read those messages which were basically welcome messages, and some guideline messages.

Testing of Mixin

After that was done, I started testing the app. I first tapped on the left down icon on the app that was somehow similar to a lock type of icon, and once I tapped that then I was taken to a page where I had the option to send or receive crypto-currencies. I decided to deposit some money to test the app’s functions and out of all available crypto-currencies I went with Lite Coin as that’s the one which I always prefer because of low fees. I sent only $5 worth of Litecoin from my wallet and after 12 confirmations the Lite coin appeared on my messenger wallet. After that I added random contacts in my contact list to test the app, the contacts were added. I sent them some messages, but got no replies from those contacts.  I should also mention that I had transferred the $2 from my mixin messenger by reading the QR code of the wallet and then sending money to that wallet was easy. As soon as the transaction was completed the MixPay message appeared in my chat. After the purchase I had only $2.94 worth of Lite coin left on my account. I gave it a try to withdraw the money, but the fee was too high at $1.84 per transaction, and after seeing the fee I decided to deposit $5 more into my account. The deposit process was just like the previous one and it appeared on my wallet after 12 confirmations.
Now I tried to send some of my Lite coin to the ones in my contacts, and the first transaction I send was just 0.0001 LTC and it was sent very fast without any issues. After that I send another transaction worth of 0.001 LTC to another contact and that was sent instantly like the previous one.    

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Creation of Safe

Now it was time to create my safe and for that I used my Mornin Key app to scan the QR code. I have now scanned the QR code of mixin safe from its website and authenticate the Mixin Safe Service to get access to my safe on the website. After that I have purchased the standard plan of the site which costs $2 dollars, and with that plan I was able to create my own safe. The standard plan to use the safe cost $2 dollars as of this day and may later be reduced or increased depends on the decision of the mixin, but I really recommend to reduce the cost of basic plan to $1 or even lower then that to attract new customers. After that was done and my account Samreomo was approved as a member of the case then I decided to deposit some money into the case.

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Connecting my safe and depositing money into it

Now it was time to approve some transactions using Mornin Key and for that I had to scan the QR code of my Safe with Mornin Key application. I scanned the QR code of my safe and approved it with Mornin Key app, and during approval I was required one again to enter my passcode, and the safe was approved instantly. After that I decided to deposit some of the Lite coin in my safe and for that I had to add the wallet number of the safe which I have added using mixin messenger once again and then I sent just 0.0001 LTC as first deposit to the site. The deposit was sent after sometime, but the fee was too high for that transaction. I just deposited 0.0001 LTC and the fee was 0.02 LTC which was quite higher than the transaction itself, and after that I decided to sent 0.02 LTC as my next transaction, and that transaction also had 0.02 LTC as fee. The fee was higher then other exchanges and that’s why I got curious that why the fee was so high as compare to the exchanges. For that reason I had to contact their Customer Care service.

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Mixin Customer Care service      

Now it was time to ask some questions from the customer care service. I posted the message that why the fee of the transactions made with Lite coin were higher with mixin wallet from other exchanges? And, within few seconds I got some replies from the customer care of the mixin. They have explained the reason for higher fees, and I must say that it really made sense so that I thank them for the information they gave me. I must say that the customer service is quite good and responsive and they are always there to help you with their assistance.

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Withdrawing Money from My Safe

After contacting the customer support now it was time to withdraw my Lite coin from the Safe, and for that reason I used my own Lite coin wallet address to withdraw coins into it. To do that I clicked on transactions button on my account page, and at the transaction page and I selected SamReomo safe, and after that I clicked on next button. After that the next window appeared in that window I pasted my wallet address and selected the amount that I was going to withdraw, and then clicked on the next button once again. Now I was taken to another page named summary and from that page I clicked on Create button, and I was taken to next page where I clicked on Approve button. A pop-up appeared where the member of the safe had to approve the transaction with a QR code to scan, I scanned the QR code using my mixin messenger and the transaction was approved. After that the final window appeared and at that window I also clicked on Approve button, and this time I need to scan the QR code with Mornin Key application. I have scanned it with Mornin Key and the transaction was approved, and soon it was completed. After a few minute I received the Lite coin In my wallet.

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Setting Emergency Contact

Now it was time to have my emergency contact and for that I had tried on all of those contacts that I added, but none of them added me back as a friend and for that reason I was unable to add any of those as emergency contact. I was worried that how can I fulfill this requirement of the review and sudden I got an idea to create another mixin account on my brother’s smartphone, and for that I took my brother’s smart phone which had similar specs like the one I used. I created the account in the similar way that I used to create my original account. Once the account was created fully I added it as a friend by searching it with the help of its mixin id, and then I added my account as a friend on it in the same way. Now, I added this account as my emergency contact and I got the code from it and entered it to make a my emergency contact. The operation was done successfully and I had faced no issue at all. I must say that adding an emergency contact was a hard task, but still I have completed it successfully.
   
Withdrawing money from Mixin to my wallet

I decided to give mixin a try by withdrawing the money into my personal wallet. For that I have added my personal Lite coin wallet and requested a withdrawal using mixin messenger. I have withdrawn 0.0065869 worth of LTC to check that what happens, and fortunately I got my withdrawal without any issues, but once again the fee for the withdrawal was 0.02 LTC, but since I knew that why the fee was so high, and that’s why I didn’t care about that.

My Suggestion

Although the Mixin safe is a quite useful system but it needs some changes in order to be more useful for the users. The first suggestion I want to give is that the Mixin team should reduce the costs of the plans because many users won’t be happy to begin with a system that starts with $2 as basic plan. I would also advise Mixin team to make the Mornin Key app free on Play Store as well on App Store because many people don’t trust the applications that are installed from outside of the Play Store or App Store, and those people also consider such apps as suspicious. I find it okay to register an account using a phone number because most of the messenger apps also require phone verification, but still it would be better to allow the users to create accounts with e-mail address, however it isn’t necessary. Finally, I would recommend Mixin team to reduce the fee for withdrawals because the fee is very high and for those accounts who have less amount of crypto won’t be able to use it with those high fees.

Conclusion

Mixin safe is the most secure and useful safe for all those users who want to secure their crypto-currencies, and I believe that it is very important for everyone who wants high level of security. My experience with this system was really good and I have never faced any issue by using the safe. Anyone who is uses this application for one time would love to use it forever because the system is the safest one in the market, and so far my experience has been really good I must say. Anyone who loves to make their crypto safe can easily rely on Mixin safe because this thing is among the best one in the market.

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The steps on how to set up is pretty straightforward to my taste which is nice because it makes sure that you're not getting lost in the process from the get go. My recommendation for this is to part is that they should create a link with video tutorial, makes the process easier for most people since they can see how the process works. I don't recommend using Mornin Key as your wallet as it doesn't have the same Scan the Gallery^[1] for screenshotted QR code like Mixin Messenger^[2], you will need two devices so it's a hassle for me and also, if you are a cheapskate like me, you can download Mornin Key's APK so you don't have to pay for their app in the Playstore.

• Mixin Messenger UI/UX
  The UI is overall not that bad in my opinion, I'm a fan of minimalistic styles of websites, the buttons are where you expect them to be, I'm still adjusting to the loss of burger menu style for options being replaced by my Mixin Messenger profile to access the settings. I like the triple password confirmation for the setup of the password, I am sure that I won't forget that 6-digit number anytime soon. I probably recommend having some sort of tutorial for navigating the Mixin Messenger, I think people are overestimating how smart people are sometimes.

• Mixin Messenger Chat
  I don't see anything different with other messaging apps out there when it comes to the chat function, just like Telegram although the reminder that it has an end-to-end encryption is a nice touch but I wouldn't say that it's a game changing feature. I like the support bot of Team Mixin though, it helps that people follow your guidelines and what better way to do that than to have them see that message first.

• Contact Page/Settings
  There should be like a tooltip in the QR Code of Receive Money, I don't see any USD or local currency in my Mixin Wallet so I don't know what I should send in it, money when it comes to crypto is a tad bit confusing for me, I don't like losing my funds if I can prevent it. Regarding adding contacts, I think you should group the Phone Contacts option with the other two, it's not that different from adding contacts in the Mixin Messenger. No problems with the settings, maybe moving the Mixin Messenger Desktop to the Scanner as an option.

• Mixin wallet
  Pretty straightforward UI for a wallet, I like the adding of address and having a list of addresses that you've previously sent your funds. The only recommendation I have for this is adding more cryptocurrency options to choose from, I don't know if it's because it's beta test but there should be a slider as to how much you should be paying for your transaction fees, I am not paying for a 20 USD tx fee just to send 3 USD to my safe if you catch my drift.

Now we're getting to the juicy part. The safe creation is pretty smooth for me, the problem is Signing in to the Mixin Safe in my browser, for context, my phone was stolen a few weeks back, you need 2 devices to sign in to the Safe which in my opinion is a bit of a hassle since not everyone has 2 or more devices, also worth mentioning that the sign in is confusing because you don't log in where you scan your QR Code which I think is odd, shouldn't you be able to log in where you used your scanner, right?

• Mixin Safe Browser UI/UX
  The UI of the website in my Google Chrome browser is unresponsive so I have to tick the Desktop Mode in the Google Chrome browser, it should be able to adjust to the size of the device (phone). You can't even add safe when the Desktop Mode isn't on because of how unresponsive the UI is.

• Mixin safe deposit and withdrawal
  I deposited 0.0001 BTC to test it out, the tx fee is just too much at my first attempt to deposit so I have to wait it out another to see if the tx fee will go down and it did by a lot, from 20 USD worth of tx fee to a measly 7+ USD, I'll probably have the same recommendation as the other reviewers, and that we should be able to set how much tx fee we are going to pay especially if we don't mind how long it will take for the transaction to materialize. Transferring the bitcoin from your safe to a different address was a hassle for me but I guess that it's a security and I just refuse to believe it, maybe I was irritated by the GIF style QR code to display 3 QR codes for confirmation

Even though I had a hard time in some steps, everything went smoothly for me as I took it slow with each process. On a personal level, I wouldn't recommend it at all unless you are handling multiple funds from different people and they expect you to make sure that that money is safe in your hands but if not then it's a 50/50 since anyone can safekeep their bitcoin pretty well already. But if you're a business, I would recommend using this because of the safe feature, it's economically more viable for you to store here even with just their Personal tier in pricing and if you want, the Elite Level is the way to go. The multisig feature is a good thing too, probably even a government agency like the tax department, accounting and payroll unit might use this to prevent unwanted release of funds since signatures from different entity must approve the release of that said fund. Their UI is already on my good side although they have to address that issue of unresponsiveness. I would put Mixin Safe at 4.2/5

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Bitcointalk username: Faisal2202

Mixin Name: Faisal2202
Mixin ID:41181685

Owner Wallet means ---> My main Wallet either its Mixin Messenger or Mixin Safe
Member Wallet Means -->My alternative account to test features. It is used in both Mixin Messenger and Mixin safe

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I downloaded Mornin Key first as i when clicked on the "Get Started" button on the website it asked me to download the Mornin Key App. Then i downloaded the Mixin Messenger app made an account then with the help of Mixin Messenger i opened up Mixin Safe. Then i upgraded the Mixin Safe by buying the 2$ plan. Oh, i forgot to add, i also added members/contact in my Mixin Messenger in order to increase security. Then i made a transaction on Mixin Safe then took Withdrawal from it in my Mixin Messenger Wallet. Then i tried to send and receive money from my Owner Mixin Wallet to my Member Mixin Messenger wallet.

• I will try to focus on problems and errors but will not forget to mention the procedure i have gone through.
• I will share step by step experience of this platform.

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Well, Mornin Key is just a Key manager which i downloaded at start of the review. I didn't bought it, as from the main page (https://safe.mixin.zone/start) i could download free APK, So i went for Free APK. Then i thought i may not come to use it but when i made Mixin Safe there i have to use Mornin Key app. I scanned the QR code provided during the Mixin Safe Activation. I think i used this app 2 times there.

My experience with Mornin Key App was smooth, i didn't faced any issue while downloading, and using it. App worked smoothly in my Android Phone.

• I liked the Dark Mode feature as it is mostly preferred by many users.
• I could also change the security type to access the app. At start i used fingerprint then i changed the setting to 6 digit Passcode.
• I could easily add and remove extra accounts in Mornin Key app

Recommendations

• I hope if the Password and fingerprint (both option) works/avail together. For example, when i open my trust wallet (i could not remember of any other example) i have two option i could also type my passcode and also use the fingerprint option.

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After downloading and setting up the Morning Key App, i start to find some guide from official platform And found one (https://support.mixin.one/en/article/how-to-use-mornin-key-to-create-mixin-safe-1u1rf36/). So, according to guide, i have to download Mixin Messenger, so i simply downloaded the app for free from Play store (for Android). Then i started to set it up, i have to give a phone number in order to receive a OTP, which was quite difficult for me to get so i have to call my relative so i could use his number to receive the OTP (my relative is out of country). So, after getting the OTP, i logged into the app then made/activated my wallet. Where i have to give 6 digit passcode like 4 to 5 times. Which is a good step. After doing this my Mixin Messenger was set up.

Then, i started to explore all options available there.

• I really liked the feature of asking for Passcode after some intervals to log into wallet of Mixin Messenger. Because in this way i could easily remember it. ^A
• There are numerous features in Mixin Messenger app, on which i am so satisfied. Like i have all the "Privacy", "Security" Options. I could see the logs, change the pin and number. i could add Emergency Contact too. Which is quite good.
• "Notification and Confirmations" Features is so good for merchants. Because whenever they will receive a payment of "X" amount they will receive notifications. Which is not so unique but comes handy during quick buying and selling.
• We can easily backup our chats which are also encrypted by end to end. That's also a good point.
• Customization of Mixin Messenger is also easy and there are numerous number of "fiat" options to select.

Adding Emergency Contact
The procedure was smooth, all i have to select a member from my contact list and then hit confirm option to receive OTP (that i will receive in other account/member account). Which came very fast, i input the OTP and verified that account as my emergency account. It was smooth like butter. Note* I added both my personal account and my member/relative account in emergency contact with each other.
Recommendations

• As 6 digit wallet passcode/pin is not recoverable due to TIP security protocol. So, there comes "Emergency Contact" feature handy. But i might not know about this feature if i didn't tested the whole features. So, it would be a good gesture if you would recommend new users to enable it by giving them a reminder Notification just after they set up the Mixin Messenger App.
• After clicking on the "Phone Contacts" option we are asked for giving them the permission which is a good thing. But After that we could not minimize that tab. I thought it would be open as Tab. And there was no search option available too. To search the required Phone number by name. I had more than 600 phones numbers so, it becomes so difficult for me to select one from there and send invite. Although i can also send invite directly from the image shown at number 3. But If you have provided this option then a search bar must be there to search the required number and this tab will be better if could be minimize or maximize with need.

• After setting up Mixin Messenger, i have to connect it to Mixin website to Activate Mixin Safe. Well, during connecting, there was a small pop window which comprised of agreements and rules etc. But the issue is, there was 2 pages to swipe left/right. I only could swipe left/right by clicking in the green area. It would be better if you could also allow to swipe L/R by clicking in the Red Area too.

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After scanning the code on "Login Page" from Mixin Messenger app, i logged into Mixin Safe. First of all, i was attracted to read a red background notification bar which can not be closed. Well, then according to the guide, i clicked on the "safes" option, then add safe, during the activation of safe, i didn't encounter any problem. The procedure was smooth as butter. Here are some pics to activation pics. And just to add, for buying the plan of 2$ i choose cryptocurrency as payment option and selected the "Matic" Coin for payment. The fee was almost near to zero.
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Recommendations

• The red background notification bar is a little bit annoying, so there must be a close option available for it too.
• The networks are only two --> (BTC and LTC). Which are few only even if the app is new there must be more options available.

Now after activating the Safe, i made a transaction. I used TW to send 9 dollars (0.0003 BTC) to Mixin Safe. As the minimum Amount is equal to 0.0001 BTC. So, just in case i transacted 0.0003) BTC. As the amount was lesser so does the fee. So, it took some time to be confirmed like maybe 10 to 15 minutes. Well here is the transaction details --> https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/56ecfd12c678abbef462fd9942eaffb93ecd95d5a0fdbdc396aa32ad693f34a4?from=trustwallet


Well, then i tried to withdraw this amount of BTC into my Mixin Messenger app.
The process was very simple, even though i was trying multisig feature for the first time. Here is what i did. I simply clicked on the "New transaction" feature, filled the recipient address which i copied from my Mixin Messenger wallet. After filling the information, i have to confirm the transaction from the member i added for multisig. I received a message as shown in the pic on my member's Mixin messenger app. I then signed on to the Mixin Safe Dashboard on new different Browser. Signed the transaction from Member's dashboard. Then i came back to owner's dashboard of Mixin Safe and approved the transaction from there. The experience was fun and really easy.

While filling the details for withdrawal.
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When i filled the details i have to confirm the transaction from member's dashboard as i aforementioned i received a notification in my Member's Mixin Messenger app from there i can easily know that other party is making transaction. To confirm the transaction, i logged in to Mixin Safe from Member's side then i have to go to "Transaction" section. There i see the same transaction i made from my Owner account well, then i clicked on it and scanned the QR code from my Member's Mixin Messenger app to confirm the Transaction. Which was so easy to do.


Well, then i have to approve the transaction from the Owner's Safe account, where i have to use the Mornin app scanner to scan the provided QR code. Which really enhanced the security. Well, after doing that my transaction was given the status of Confirmed on Mixin Safe's Transaction detail page.
But it yet to be confirmed from the receiver's end. As only 3 confirmations are required there. So, after 2 hours my transaction got confirmed and reflects in my Mixin Messenger Wallet.

I also tries to Send money from one Mixin Messenger wallet to another Mixin Messenger Wallet.. I used my own personal account (owner account) to send 0.0003 BTC to Member's Mixin Messenger Wallet. The procedure was so smooth and transaction reflected into member's side wallet in no time. (like within seconds). It was so fast and smooth. All, i have to choose a contact or a address to whom i wanted to send money. I first added address then i tried sending through Contact address. Here are the results.
Recommendations

• You should add a maximum button there which could instantly fill the amount bar with maximum amount, so that we don't have to write it down manually. Because that way it will be time saving and will be quick.

As you can see the amount i had in wallet was lower than the transaction fee so i delayed this step and will do when the transaction fee will be lower. But i think that is not necessary to do. I want my some amount to be in this wallet.

Note* I already made Sending and Receiving Transaction in Mixin Safe and in Mixin Messenger wallet.

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1. I think you guys mistakenly replaced the Description of following highlighted stories. Because in the title on says "James Howells 7,500 BTC" While in the description the name and the amount is not matching with the title. Same goes for the second story. I think you guys have replaced the story description with one another or if it's not the description then the Title is misplaced there. I recommend you to correct it.

2. While i was depositing BTC on my Mixin Messenger wallet, there i came to see an option of guide of "depositing money on Mixin Messenger Wallet" that guide was useful but in one pic you wrote "Click the wallet icon at top right corner" While the wallet Icon is at the Bottom Left Corner. I think that's a mistake too and you guys should correct that too.

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First i contacted in "Team Chat" with my issue of not getting deposit in Mixin Messenger Wallet. A bot (i doubt) replied me with some links of "How to deposit in Messenger Wallet" then i type i wanted to talk with some real person. Then a real person reached me, actually it was not an issue from Mixin side instead the network was so congested that my transaction stuck in there for like 2 hours. Well, this was the first time my transaction got delayed this much so i was worried. And contacted them in Chat. My experience with Support chat was very smooth they were fast and very friendly and handled me like a lady. That's a good point which shows there enthusiasm towards this great project.

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The overall, experience was very smooth i tested many features and they went smooth even i found some mistakes in the Website which i already mentioned, and i also suggested many recommendations according to my experience with other apps. Which i think must be included in yours too. On the other hand, it was fun to use the platform. Even if the procedure looks difficult and hard but once i started it.  It turns out to be fun and all i have to face is to get another Smartphone which was difficult to get so i have to bribe my younger brother to get his phone (that also costed me 0.35$ to buy him Shawarma). But this is not a big issue when you will send someone invite link it will become there headache to get register. So, overall experience was good and platform has great potential. Because, Security Key in Mornin key app is placed in another device, Mixin Safe in is my Laptop and if we manage to install Mixin Messenger in another device too then the comptonization of one device will not effect your wallet as other devices are also needed. And even if hackers find a way to compromise all three devices they can not pass through every 6 digit passcode and multisig feature made that impossible.

I hope me review will be of use to you, and thanks for allowing me to test this platform on such lower rates. Best of luck Mixin Safe.

Review from: ajiz138

I'm back about the Mixin Safe review, at first I withdrew from this review because I couldn't log in using my area number, meaning that the 4 digit number sent didn't always appear in the message, but there are some people who use "online SMS recipient" so there I can log in from the Mixin Messenger app from my phone.
I again submitted this review to @Royse777 via PM and he agreed.

First - Mixin messenger

Mixin messenger is not available in Play Store for my country, this is due to restrictions but my solution is to download the APK file provided, while it runs normally during the installation and setup process until it creates a PIN and appears on the dashboard.

PIN
It takes 6 times to create a PIN password with this unique number for security combined with the wallet.
There are many other cryptocurrencies available on Mixin Messenger but I will only be using bitcoins to start depositing here.

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Chat
This feature is so complete I seem to like the chat on Mixin Messenger because it's exactly the same as the chat of other platforms.
Trying to add contacts in the chat here many features of a lot of Emoji, can send files, send voice.
The Mixin team's support is quite fast, I asked for confirmation of the required deposit, they were very responsive, there is also always a notification here when you have made a successful deposit.

Desktop version of Mixin Messenger
I tried to use the desktop version to find out the features that were there, as shown in the image below that the desktop version only provides chat services, can't see the wallet like in the smart phone application.
But if someone with a chat then it's better in the desktop version, but it's back to those who like it but the features in the application are more complete than the desktop version.

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Second - Morning Key

For Mornin Key it is available in Play Store but have to pay around $1 but I made that payment to create a safe at https://safe.mixin.zone/.

During the process of creating a new account > selecting Biometrics for key security > saving the Mnemonic Phrase, then performing a scan to make Mixin Safe the next process.

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Third - Safe Mixin Zone

Now to this stage to access the safe, this must be with Mixin Messenger with qr-code scanning, but a little slow in the process of entering the PIN waiting to load for a few seconds then failing, I tried again with the second successfully entering the safe and starting other activities.
The failed login message was "Server is under maintenance: 502" but after logging in everything was fine. Ok next phase.

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After entering the Msafe mixin I immediately clicked "new safe" entered the name and chose on the bitcoin network as the next test by scanning from the "Mornin key" and selecting the standard Upgrade Plan with $ 2 to activate it here the process is quite fast, only a few seconds only payment is complete.

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After that I made a deposit of around $29 from Mixin Messenger with a fairly expensive fee of $8 (0.00028 BTC) for me this is quite expensive the Mixin team may have to lower the fee to a lower one because the bitcoin tx fee is now normal again if seen from Mempool.

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After the balance is entered, it displays on the main dashboard with an upward graph, because there is only a deposit, then to try a withdrawal.

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Withdraw from Safe Mixin

Withdrawal from safe mixin must be agreed with two other apps, first with Mixin Messenger and second with Morning Key. This actually maintains tighter security for those who store bitcoins and some other altcoins in the safe mixin.

The withdrawal process does not take long, I experienced no more than one minute, the transaction was completed without any fees for this withdrawal, because of the standard upgrade plan, only one free transaction is obtained, but for more upgrades, more free transactions will be made the maximum is 16 free transactions if you upgrade to prosperity more profits.

I'm trying the lowest plan to test for the first time, if it's safer and I like it then I'll try the higher plan again.

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Support chat in safe mixin
I tried to communicate in this support chat to ask further questions that I don't know what should be, they can explain in detail and are also able to respond faster, maybe if there are complaints from you or something that needs to be asked then this support chat can help what the customer needs.
Satisfied with chat safe mixin support.

Conclusion

The initial experience in safe mixin was quite complicated because I had to understand several other combinations that had to be combined with 2 other applications (Mixin messenger and Mornin Key) but the experience here was quite enjoyable because I could test what I felt.

The advantage here is that saving funds is quite safe in the safe mixin because it is designed in such a way for security that they have to agree from two applications to make other transactions. I think this is safe enough from a security level for them to store assets in a safe mixin.

Lack; for some people it may be necessary to understand how to use it which is a little complicated especially for beginners, actually there are many that can be connected to the safe mixin, starting from Bitcoin core and Ledger, but the most common is the application provided this is the choice where they like can run as they wish.

Even from Upgarde, this must be extended every year and the PLAN variation to be chosen, this method is indeed quite burdensome but the safe mixin believes that what they apply in its features is better security.

That's a bit of my experience in testing Safe Mixin and others.

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DATE: 29 JULY 2023
MIXIN REVIEW BY THESPIRAL

I heard most of the time about online saving private keys but I was thinking that it is not best to save online. I was thinking that storing in hard copy is much better but after reading the full procedure and stories of Thosmas (locked 220 million) and other people who lost their phrase words.

Website:
Domain date of creation and expire


 Website designing is best one i looked so for and everything is clear. Website could ne easily browse in Smartphone and PC without any limitations. All project details and features available in main page. I hope , by visiting once no question will be raised in mind. The first thing that caught my eye is to check the Prices so here are my thoughts and recommendations.


Pricing:
Three kinds of packages available and cheaper one is standard package (100$) while two other packages are Elite (1000$) and Prosperity (10000$) respectively.

I accept that the price is cheaper than many other platforms asking for a big fee but still I think it will be better to give a bonus (25-50% off or payback) to early users which will attract more users because at the start our first priority is to gain more users.

GET STARTED:
On the website i clicked on "Get Started" with thinking to start the process. there I found full process of Safe mixin with full screenshot step by step. at the last bar code appears to scan from smartphone.

Official website has link to download Mixin messenger and link direct me to to Playstore.

This ia first app used for sign purpose and our member key saved here.

 Installation:
Downloading and installation process is very easy and nothing different from other apps, I downloaded from playstore.

Signup:
The signup process needs a mobile phone number. we can use virtual numbers too but i think own phone number is more secure due to less chance of lost. code arrived through sms in 5 seconds. entering code direct me to dashboard of the app as there no other setting to do at the start.

Creating PIN:
we have to create a six(6) digit PIN after successful registration to further use app. This pin would be used for accessing Mixin wallet. everytime we open wallet, we will enter Pin first. This pin also used to recover app if we lost our phone number.
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Setting:
we can change theme, profile setting, add emergency numbers amd other options here,  i will discuss one by one.

=> We can change the limit of sending messages and adding in groups to  everyone or only contact.
=> we can change finding us with phone number to everyone, contact or nobody
=>  we can sync all phone contacts by uploading contacts.
=> we can change PIN number in setting too.
=> we can change phone number in setting
=> we can delete our account if we not satisfied with up or any other faced any issue.
=> we can change the text size, chat background and theme too.

Emergency Contact:
we can add emergency contact in setting too. This is a very important step which will give us access to recover our account of our phone number lost.

Adding contact:
adding contact is very easy and we have two options to search contact: by phone number and by unique Mixing ID

Chat:
we can chat with our contacts and i enjoyed it with lot of options available. we can send text message, voice message, image, smileys, gif, location, contact , voice call and camera option available too.
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we can send wallet fund to our love one from chat option by clicking on plus button and then click on transfer. sending Fund to Mixin contact with Mixin id is totally free and we can enjoy this.

Wallet:
Mixin wallet is used to receive,store and send crypto tokens. All big tokens and big networks available. deposit and withdraw function is very easy and same kind of options which we used in other crypto wallets. one function is added which is to send crypto to contact which increase the security and delivery fund with fast speed without paying any fee.
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Scanning:
Scan option is available too in Mixin messenger startup menu which help us to login in desktop as well as payment signin.

The second app which is used for Mixin safe is Mornin. This is not Mixin official app but secure app use for saving one member private key. Playstore has paid version and we have to pay small fee and we can download APK files too which is free.
Installation and signup process is very easy and we have to save twelve words Phrase key.

i open official website (https://safe.mixin.zone/) and then clicked on Sign In. Now the first step is to login through Mixin messenger required scanning bar code. scanning code is very easy and safe mixin logged in successfully very fast.

Creating Safe:
In Creating Mixin safe these step is required
1: Mixin messenger with some contacts
2: Hardware, Bitcoin core or Mornin(software wallet)

I already discussed these two steps and I am now fully ready to create my first safe

Creating a First Safe wallet:
Creating save required multiple step and its not easy to make without reading proper "Get started courses". When I click on create a new safe , i have been given a window to give my name to my safe because we can create multiple safe so when we give names to every Mixing safe , it will he easy for us to select required Mixin Safe for view balance,deposit and withdraw.

Next we have to select a number of members for signing. we can add maximum 5 members and Signin of two of them will be enough to approve transaction. Without signing of two members, no one can withdraw fund even if anyone get access to private key. This is extra security provided by Mixin to make their security strong.

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There is the option of adding only own mixing safe sign approval and for this purpose we will select "One Member"

In the next step we have to signin through Mornin app using bar code. This step is easy but we have to need two device( one for bar code and other for scanning). If we open the web on a PC then we can easily scan through mornin app.

New private key is created in Mornin app and we can easily checked out key by clicking on reveal private key but we cannot make transaction with this key.
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In the next step we have to upgrade to proceed to final step. We have to buy any package according to our need. at this time i am just checking how it works so i buy plan which give me one one Mixin safe creation and also one time free transaction.

Buying package is very easy and we can pay through crypto and i am happy to see lot of crypto tokens available for payment. Ltc, bnb, xrp, doge are cheapest ones to proceed through. tracking is faster than my thinking and after sending tokens to the provided address the website tracked my transaction quickly and upgrade immediately.
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Now last step is to activate Mixin safe wallet. for this step we have been given bar code and we have to just scan through Mornin wallet. all steps done and now we can see our btc address, deposit and new transaction option. We have successfully created our Mixin Safe wallet. The whole process took one hour and i believe if i do it again, i will do it in just 10 minutes.

So far the whole process worked smoothly but not checked deposit and withdraw function. In general we check speed, tracking of fund deposit l, decentralization and customer reply when we face any problem.

Deposit:
I used Safepal wallet to send btc to Mixin safe address with default gas fee(10 Gwei). payment recieved immediately after confirmed in my wallet (after 5 minutes). This shows that the tracking deposit system is top class and it shocked me at first. deposit function is better then my expectations.
we can check total balance in main page but if we want to view specific safe balance then we have to select this safe to check number of btc.

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transaction and activity option is also available where we can see history of deposit and withdraw any time.

Withdraw:
 The withdrawal function is also very fast and fully decentralized. I withdraw all btc to my Cex wallet. I received payment without facing any issue.

For withdrawal we have to click "New transaction" and then select required Safe and then amount of btc we want to send and then at last we have sign in through Mixin messenger and Mornin.

first we have to sign in through Mixin messenger. for this step I scanned bar code and this step successfully done with message in Mixin app. I added only one mixing member and only my own signin required for withdrawal. 2  or more signing will be required for added members if we add  more member.

and then last step is to signin through Mornin app and its went smoothly too and i recieved payment immediately according to cex confirmation limit .

Customer support:
The whole process went smoothly and i didn't faced no problem. This why I didn't asked any question from customer support but message chat option is available which is fast way to solve problem. In my experience message Chat support is better than mail.

                
My Review


          Downloading Mornin key
Firstly I started with downloading the mornin key. I discovered that to download the app was very easy but the app doesn't support low memory android phone. This makes it uneasy for everyone to access,my phone couldn't open the app and I have to use my sister's phone to download the app and registration was easy. A 12 seed phrase will be given to you and you have to put them to open your mornin key.

Suggestion: It will be better if the dev can make the mornin keys app to be flexible to all kind of  andriod phones,either high grade or lower grade,just like the mixing messenger that is easily accessible on any type of andriod phone.

      Downloading the mixing messenger.
The download was easy and fast,after that I was asked to register with my phone number which I did and a confirmation code was sent to me through me through my phone number, this is what you will use to complete your registration. After that you have yo setup a security pin which you are asked to put in four times before it will be confirmed. The next step is to add your contacts either from your phone book or by adding the persons mixing messenger I.d number. In my messenger when I wanted to add one contact,I discovered that I already have one contact that was added automatically because I have his phone number. It was very easy to add contacts,I only add one contact to as my emergency contact since it is a muti-sig wallet.
Suggestion: The idea of using phone number to register is not safe,so it will be better is emails are used instead of phone numbers for privacy.

  Creating the mixing safe wallet
You need to go to the mixing safe site and use your mixing messenger to scan the QR barcode which will automatically log you in.

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                To Subscribe
I used the long process unknowingly to me that there is is short process. I transferred $8 to my morning keys bitcoin address from my electrum and after I confirmed the funds in my mornin key, I connected my mixing messenger with my mornin key by scanning the QR barcode on my messenger and it was done successful. The fund reflected on my messenger, i used my mixing messenger to subscribe to a $2 package,which was by following the directions and changing usp to btc for payment.

            

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Next was connecting my mixing messenger to my mixing safe wallet so that I can get my btc address of my wallet and after that, I got my btc address,I thought that I could use the balance of $6 in my messenger to fund my safe wallet but it was impossible because the transaction fee is very high. I wasn't happy with it because I will not be able to withdraw it anymore.

                
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Suggestion : The whole process is complicated for a starter and if there can be a tutorial video to assist new users so that they don't get discouraged on it. Also,I will like it if users can transfer funds from the mixing messenger to his/her safe wallet with a low fee based on the amount that you are transferring.

                


              Funding my mixing safe wallet
I decided to deposit the sum of $4.9 worth of btc to my safe wallet btc address using my electrum wallet and this was fast and easy.


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             Withdrawal.
To withdraw is very easy but you need to pass through a maximum security process that you must need the assistant of your emergency contact. First,you have to use your mixing messenger to scan the QR Barcode on your safe wallet,which a notification will be sent to your emergency contact for his approval on your transaction. Next is to use your mornin key to scan the QR code of your safe wallet before your withdrawal will be approved. I like the safe wallet  because the withdrawal fee is free and I was astonished at that.

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Conclusion
I love the security aspect of the wallet,which makes it impossible for someone withdraw your funds without the your concept and your emergency contact.
I like the features of the mixing messenger as you can chat with your contacts and also send btc to your contact by just clicking on his name. It is done in 3 seconds.

Bitcoin username: LDL
Batch: Batch#2

My Mixin safe Messenger Wallet Review:

"Mixin safe" messenger apps , registration &apps installation:

Like other apps I use my personal mobile phone instead of desktop to register the "Mixin safe" messenger apps. Unlike other apps, "Mixin safe" messenger apps do not have to face any difficulty to register on mobile phones instead I have experienced several advantages here. Installed and registered apps from "Mixin safe" website https://safe.mixin.zone/ from my mobile phone. Of course I used the mobile number to register where I didn't face any difficulty. After giving my personal mobile phone number a four digit otp code was given from "Mixin safe" support and account registration was done through special security capture using that code. Although it took me a while to get the captcha and 4-digit code for a while, I didn't face as many problems as other apps.
But I am saying one thing with caution if anyone wants to download "Mixin safe "apps, then they can download it from Google play store by entering the link provided from the main website, otherwise it will be wise not to download apps from any other website.

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Messenger apps Reviews Rate

These open source bitcoin wallets and encrypt2encrypt(E2E) messenger apps are very important for public expression of personal and groupwise opinions. This messenger apps has already gained great popularity and got positive reviews of around 3.9 stars. The popularity of "Mixin safe messenger apps" is increasing as time goes by. But it is expected that these messenger apps will become the top class messenger apps used in the world in the near future.

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This messenger apps already has more than one million users and thousands of new users are getting connected and familiar with this "Mixin safe" messenger apps every day. Moreover, this messenger app is not only used as a part of communication but also as a fully secured Bitcoin wallet. This messenger apps already has more than one billion worth of cryptocurrency deposits and more than one million transactions per day from this wallet. But another important thing is that these messenger apps and wallets have a permanent guarantee for five more years in the future. No doubt it will create an ecosystem of trust for users.

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Support Blockchain explorers:

An important aspect of "Mixin Safe wallet" is that it currently supports 48 blockchain network explorers and their blockchain confirmation time is much less than other wallets and deposit confirmation time is much less than other wallets. Confirmation time in wallet" is very less.

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Mixin safe Wallet's deposit experience:

I had my first little BTC deposit experience in Mixin safe wallet which really surprised me and made me curious to use this wallet. I deposited 1mBTC from my Electrum bitcoin wallet and deposit confirmed in wallet with only 3 block confirmations completed. I have used many wallets but very few have confirmed as fast as Mixin safe wallet.

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Mixin safe wallet Withdrawal, time and fees experience:


I have faced an exceptional problem with withdrawing in case of Mixin safe wallet.  The withdrawal fee of this wallet is very high compared to other recognized wallets. Mixin safe wallet's withdrawal fee is around $10 where other wallets' withdrawal fees range from ($0.10-1.0). I request the authorities of Mixin safe wallet to solve this problem and bring special benefits to people by solving this problem as soon as possible.

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Mixin safe Messenger support team & Services:

One of the most attractive aspects of Mixin safe messenger apps is their support team and their round the clock servicing. Their service team provides 24/7 service to their users and they have added service bots to their apps for service. I contacted their service team and they resolved my issue very quickly. The bots assigned to their service team to serve the customers can recognize the bot audio, text, video, image functional symbols. E2E servicing facility is a special benefit to customers with their services. They are committed to providing 24 hour service while protecting the privacy of their customers. I highly appreciate Mixin safe messenger apps service team and support team.

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Conclusion

I have used and observed both these Mixin Safe Messenger Apps and Mixin Safe wallet very deeply. While these messenger apps and wallets have many advantages, I have encountered a number of disadvantages. The customer service of this messenger apps is great. And the security system of these messenger apps and wallets made me very attentive. I have faced several issues with the security system of many exchanges, wallets many times but the security and privacy system of these messenger apps and wallets are very strong and user friendly.
Finally, one major problem I encountered was that the additional fees I encountered for withdrawing did not seem very positive to me. Fees are relatively higher than unique wallets. I recommend that this issue be brought to the attention of the authorities as soon as possible.

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MIXIN SAFE REVIEW


Forum username: GiftedMAN


Mixin Messenger
It was a great privilege to be among the participants of the Mixin Safe review and I am so delighted. I followed the instructions as it was outlined on the thread and I was able to get to the last stage and created the Mixing Safe as required by the team. It was a little bit challenging but I was able to come back to this thread make sure that all steps was duly followed with transaction to test the Mixin Safe to see the amount of network fee per transaction.

I was able to download the Mixin Safe wallet from Play Store since I am using an Android gadget which was less stressed for me to install and get on the app. After downloading, I quickly launch the app to see what it was all about. I saw the interface where I was mandated to put a phone number for me to verify it and get to the next stage. I was surprised and decided to leave the app to check this thread for some information why I have to be given an option to put phone number only and not my email address because I was very conscious of my information on a cryptocurrency wallet.

I got a little comprehension about the whole thing and I went back to the app to continue the registration. After the phone number verification, I was mandated to put a username which I obliged since it was part of the steps required to complete the review. I was also asked to create a pin which I did like four times in a row before I was done with that part. I like the interface because it was cool and simple to comprehend. I checked some of the features and I was delighted to be among the participants that tested the Mixin Messenger since it has so many freatures I may not find on other cryptocurrency wallets.


Mixin Messenger has some features that is intriguing and makes it interesting to use:

- It is a decentralized cryptocurrency wallet.
- It has new features that makes it look more safer to use.
- It support different coins and tokens.
- I can easily create a group and add my contacts.
- It has end-to-end encrypted features.
- I can connect with multiple friends on the wallet.
- It supports more than 30 Blockchains.


Mornin Key
After I was able to download the Mixing Safe and with a few steps to complete my former registration on the app, I decided to download the Morning Key so I can proceed to step two thag require me to create an account on the app(Mornin Key) to complete the step two. I could not download the app on Play Store since it requires payment to get the app, I have no option than to download the APK file so I can have access to the app.
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 I was able to install it and create an account using my forum name because I have everything to be in accordance so i will not have any issues later. This was very easy to create an account and get access to my account without being stressed.


The Mixin Interface
The Mixin Crypto wallet interface was very comprehensive and easier for me to move around and I never found anything difficult to do since everything was well arranged.
I tested some features on the app and also tried to join group which were for me and my contacts. I asked my friends to download the app since it has a end-to-end encrypted functions that makes our chats to be limited to those of us in the group. The featutes was like my regular chatting apps so it was very convince to move around the app with it crashing or showing bugs. This is when I saw the reason why I was mandated to use a phone number to create an account making it easier to add contacts and chat with friends using the Mixin Messenger wallet.


Creating a pin
Immediately I was done with creating a Mixin account, I was asked to create a pin so that no one will have access to my Mixin app apart from me. Thie was a safe move to make all my communication with the app to be a single person oriented. I first used a simple pin so I can always remember the pin but I was initiated to create a strong pin so that no one can guess the exact pin to compromise my account. I use a 6 digits pin so it can be as long as possible so that no one can guess the pin easily. I was able to use the pin all through the process to create the final New Safe on a desktop. As I go further in the registration process, the pin was vital when scanning the barcode.


Adding a Contact
The contact adding was a little bit confusing at first but I was happy that I was able to add some contacts on my account as the steps require. I was able to click my profile, I clicked on the "MY OR Code" where the barcode of my account showed. I clicked on the "Add Contact" to add those people that are already using the wallet which was more convince for me. Before doing all that, I asked people around me to go to Play Store and download the Mixin Messenger so that they can create account and have there own profiles tok before able to add them since we can only add those people that have accounts on there phones or gadgets. They downloaded the wallet and create d an account then i sharply scan there barcode to add them to my contact list. This process was very easy for me to do multiple times because it was straight forward.


Settings
The setting was quick to locate for me and it was in the right side corner of the app interface. In the settings I was able to locate some featurs and use it to do the necessary I wanted to adjust. I log in my account settings where I created my emergency contacts sso that it can be used to fix my account in case I lost access or something else happens. In the settings, I can easily adjust or change my pin to a new one if there is a need for me to do that in case my pin is compromised. I can ask log out from my account from the settings, create authorizations or change my phone number in case I lost my previous number and can't have access to it.


Settings Features
- Account
- Notification and Configuration
- Chat
- Data and Storage Usage
- Appearance
- Mixing Messenger Desktop
- Feedback
- Invite a Friend
- About


Scanning Barcodes
Scanning the barcode was very faster than I thought. I was thinking the barcode scanner would not be as sharp as I thought but everything was quicky. Immediately I use my phone camera from the Mixin Messenger, it quickly connect without wasting time. Also the Mornin Key scanner was also very quick during usage. I had a simple challenge when I wanted to scan where there was no bright light for the scanner to be effective.


New Safe
After I was done with the initial steps for the preparation of creating a New Safe. I have to go back to the Mixin Safe website where I scanned the Barcode that referred me to my portal where I have to create a New Safe account to complete all the requirements. Creating my New Safe account was step by step just like the steps I took to create a Mixin Messenger account. Before the final stage of creating a New Safe account, a paid for upgrade that cost upto $2 in Bitcoin.
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I sent the Bitcoin from my Trust wallet scanning the Barcode on my portal to make the process to be very fast without manually copy pasting the wallet address and inputting the amount in Bitcoin. This process was a little bit sluggish because I had to wait for the network confirmation before the transaction was confirmed. This took me upto an hour that made we skeptical if the transaction will ever go. Finally I was done with the step of upgrading my account and congratulations to me, I successfully created a New Safe account.


Transaction
The transaction was very fast. After creating a New Safe account, I quickly did a transaction to test the wallet and how fast it it. The transaction was a bit small sending from my Trust Wallet to my New Safe account because I had to wait for network confirmation for the transaction to be approved. After the transaction was confirmed, I received a message on my Mixin Messenger of the exact amount of Bitcoin that reflected on my New Safe dashboard.
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The dashboard was comprehensive and easy to move around the site interface. It was a good and remarkable experience for me to passed through all those steps to understand and complete the requirements to write this review.


Conclusion
My experience going through the difference steps of this review was very comprehensive and tasking. I was determined to make sure I go through every steps to complete the requirements of writing this review. The Mixin Messenger is a good cryptocurrency wallet that I can also refer to my friends and family because it has intriguing features that might not be available on other cryptocurrency wallets. The team can work on giving us other options of creating an account apart from using a phone number since it is a decentralized wallet that supports more than 30 chains and different coins or tokens.

Jateng Review About Mixin Messenger

Mixin Messenger is an open-source signal protocol messenger and cryptocurrency wallet that supports practically all widely used cryptocurrencies. It is E2EE signal protocol messenger and an open source bitcoin wallet.
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The Mixin Messenger application a fascinating tool that enables users to communicate, transfer cryptocurrencies, and make transactions with their friends will be discussed in more detail. The app combines simplicity with complexity from the moment I signed up to exploring its features and usage and I found it to be an interesting blend of simplicity and complexity.

Dowoading and Installation:

I was led to install the Mixin Messenger app on my Android phone upon clicking the user guide link https://safe.mixin.zone/. It was a quick process and the data consumption seemed reasonable. the registration process was hassle free as it only required my phone number for verification whike creating account on Mixin Safe. It was a comparatively simple and easy process
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Security PIN
Initially I was surprised by Mixin Messenger's PIN system. It requires users to enter their PIN four times, as opposed to other platforms. But I appreciated the added security measure, since it reduces the risk of forgetting the PIN without writing it down.

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Mixin Wallet

I found the Mixin wallet to be impressive, as it supported an array of popular coins and tokens, including Bitcoin. Sending and receiving funds proved to be as seamless as using trust wallet adding to the overall convenience.
In my experience adding contacts proved a bit tricky initially, so I had to connect through a desktop device. Once I created another account through a desktop the process became much simpler.

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There was a pleasant and straightforward experience to choosing an avatar and using your own picture for the profile picture. Also you could edit your name as well you could also choose to use your own picture as the profile picture.

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In terms of communication, the chat feature allowed for exchanging messages, pictures, and videos, mirroring the familiarity of WhatsApp and Telegram. Although I enjoyed the chat experience, I couldn't help but feel that adding reactions to chats would enhance the overall expressiveness of the platform. While I didn't try the group chat option due to the initial hassle of adding contacts. I found the desktop version of Mixin Messenger to be incredibly convenient and user-friendly.  
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Best Features:
 Login with a mobile phone number and never lose your account also Secured by six digit PIN
Coins and tokens are stored in PoS-BFT-DAG distributed network
 Restore wallet just by phone number and PIN
 Simple and easy interface
Send cryptocurrencies directly to phone contacts
Send secure messages with Signal protocol
Support Dark mode Available
Group chat list and Voice calls that are end-to-end encrypted

Deposit and Withdrawal

The transaction process proved to be seamless, with no fees for sending money between Mixin accounts and a minimum transaction value of approximately $2. Also Mixin Safe though initially challenging to use on my mobile device provided a secure and straightforward process once I switched to desktop mode on my Chrome browser.
I think Upgrading to access all features of the service was straightforward and the badge system particularly the $2 plan made the process swift. Deposit will take some time based on blockchain conditions typically 20 to 30 mins for Bitcoin.

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Conclusion:

Mixin Messenger offered an exciting and familiar experience, making it an enjoyable platform for crypto enthusiasts. While the simplicity of the app was appealing I recommend adding a reaction feature to the chats to enhance expressiveness. Moreover the ability to chat and send cryptocurrencies directly to contacts without fees is a standout feature. Personally, I prefer using Mixin Safe for this singular option given its secure and user-friendly nature. I think In a world of cryptocurrency chats, Mixin Messenger stands as a burst of perplexity, combining simplicity and complexity for an engaging user experience.
Might be the most user friendly cryptocurrencies wallet to store various type of crypto in the market Highly Recommended

Bitcointalk username: Avirunes


(!) This is supposed to be Mixin Safe review but there are some things that I didn't liked straight off the bat - Improper organizing of Mixin products. I feel a project/company should have all things linked at one site so that their users can feel it easy to scroll through their products or can find related help and FAQ's easily. With Mixin, I saw their Mixin Safe being at https://safe.mixin.zone, while their about Mixin network being at https://mixin.network and Mixin Messenger at https://mixin.one/messenger . Another thing, while I can find about Mixin Messenger and Mixin Network from https://mixin.one, there is nothing to find about Mixin Safe there. It will be great if Mixin team organizes their products properly in a way that their users can find everything at one spot like safe.mixin.one, messenger.mixin.one and network.mixin.one. I hope team is able to understand what I am highlighting here.


Mixin Messenger:

Installation & further setups: Installation was pretty easy as it was simple download from Google Play store on my Android phone. While scrolling and checking through the application I stumbled upon desktop version of Mixin Messenger. 


After installing the application, I was asked to register myself with name and phone no. (verified with OTP). Once it was all set, I was asked to set a 6 digit bin PIN during which I was asked to verify 4 times!! (bit annoying but can understand). Once everything was all done with initial setup, I made a deposit of 0.001 BTC ^{[txid (https://mempool.space/tx/8270934dc9718a5bc9d133a47c97e1400de260e775fec6db4d4e595f4626eedb)]} in Mixin Messenger Wallet.


Adding Contacts & Emergency Contacts: Before I move to next step of sending to someone and/or address, I opened another Mixin Messenger Account with my other phone no. and added each other as contact. For setting of Emergency Contacts, I went to Settings>Account>Security>Emergency Contact which then gives me a dialog box of the nature of Emergency Contacts after which I am asked for my 6 digit PIN and after then I am asked to select the emergency contact from the list which I selected my other account. A 4 digit code was sent to the other account on Mixin Messenger which I filled up and confirmed to enable the Emergency Contact.

I find setting up of Emergency contact as really good feature as in case of phone stolen/or lost/ or inaccessible a user can ask for emergency contact to help with accessing his Mixin Messenger back again. Mixin team has explained it in their article [LINK (https://mixin.messenger.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/3600291546)] .


Transfer of Coins between Contacts &  to Address^[1][2][3]: First of all, I initiated transaction between contacts wherein I clicked on "+" at the bottom left hand side and selected "Transfer" and type in 0.001 BTC as amount in next step and authenticated the transaction by putting in my 6 digit PIN. It was smooth, easy and no fee was required.


Next for sending coin to address^[4][5], I went to my Mixin Messenger Wallet and simply clicked "Send" and then selected "Address" and then sent 0.00064 BTC (excluding 0.00033 BTC fee)^[6] to back to my wallet address. The whole process was very smooth but the fee was very high for the transaction. The real transaction however was sent with 0.00002495 BTC fee.


Review: I didn't experienced any problems while using Mixin Messenger but I really do hope they can tune down the fees a little for sending a transaction to another bitcoin address. It would be much better if they provide a way for their users to adjust fees according to them.


Mixin Safe:

Now next up I started trying out Mixin Safe. While trying to login from Mixin Messenger, the site showed me Login failed error. I tried wiping up the site data but it still showed me the error so I shut down my Windows system and booted into my other OS Manjaro Linux and tried signing in and it worked this time.

Interface was good . During the setup it requires other third party wallets like Mornin Key or Ledger Wallet or Bitcoin Core. I had my Ledger wallet but due to its broken display (realized after starting up for the review), I had to move over to Mornin Key.  Mornin Key installation was smooth and I had no problem with it.

Next up, I started creating a new safe by going to Safe>>New Safe. Site asks for simple Safe Name and Network (Bitcoin, Litecoin#) and in next page asks for the wallet- Bitcoin Core/Mornin Key/Ledger. After selecting Mornin Key, it asks for no. of Members for the safe and no. of members approval needed to authorize any transaction from the safe later on. I added my second account but forgot to update it to "2" so by default I selected "1" as no. of members for the safe. On the next step, it was pretty much the information about the safe and nothing to do but more like a review about the safe.

Funding & Transaction: After creating the safe, I added 0.00029603 (8.65$) into the safe ^[1] direct from the Mixin Messenger Wallet. After depositing, I clicked on send transaction against the safe ^[2]  and it asked me the bitcoin address to where I want to send it to and the amount, on the next page it gave me a simple overview of the transaction. On the next stage, it asked me for Member's Approval and then Owner's approval ^[3] . It was all easy as my safe needed one approval but since it needed one approval, I had to approve it from my other account ^[4]  . After approval, all it  required was approving the transaction from Owner's end which is done by scanning the QR on Mornin Key ^[5] . The transaction was made after then and it was all smooth ^[6][7] .

My review: I liked how smooth experience I had throughout the process. Mixin has really designed it carefully talking from the security point of view. There are certain things that I would like to add on:

Eternad Mixin Safe Review

Preparation
I go to the mixin safe website to start my journey on using the mixin safe. I click sign in and the image below prompt on my screen. There's a clear instruction on how to move forward in terms of account registration.

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I click the download link(Google Playstore) and immediately download the Mixin messenger so that I can already create an account for my Mixin safe.

Mixin Messenger

I downloaded the Mixin messenger on the playstore using the download to make sure I'm using the correct application. I registered using a temporary mobile number and immediately received the verification code to create my account using my temporary mobile number.

After a successful account creation, I was surprised on the messenger ecosystem because it's combination of wallet and messenger at the same time since you can use it as telegram/messenger function to chat and send file while store your crypto currency at the same time since it supports multiple crypto currencies.

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What makes this better compared to competitor messenger app is it has a scanner feature for an easy login or access to the safe which is very crucial to protect assets on potential malwares installed on a device. The emergency contact feature is really awesome as safety measure in case the mobile number is loss for assets to recover.

I made a deposit on the messenger and my balance was quickly sync even if the transaction on unconfirmed status on blockchain. I think the only downside here is the flat rate fee which you can't customize based on your preferred speed like Electrum but the rest of the feature is nice for a messenger and crypto wallet at the same time.

Suggestion: Introduce biometric option when accessing the crypto wallets and introduce a feature to automatically lock the wallet for a certain period of time so that no one can hack the wallet in case the app is open the background when the phone got lost.

Mornin Key

I download this wallet same process on Mixin Messenger using the instruction provided when creating a safe. At this part, I'm already login on the Mixin safe website and started the procedure on creating safe. I paid 1$ before I can install the app since it's a paid app on playstore. I think the paid part of this app might make the user turn off since it's still on the early process which user usually lazy when they encounter some payment requirement already without seeing the actual product feature.

Mornin Key app use the same process of account registration to the typical non-custodial crypto wallet which user need to write seed phrase for back up purposes. The app is a literal key storage.

I only use it on scanning the code for the safe as owner wallet and signing withdrawal transaction. It's response to scan for approval is quick and smooth. I have no problem encountered when approving all my request using my keys.

Mixin Safe

The UI/UX of mixin safe is very simple yet everything that you need to learn and see is already available just like an open book. I really like the design of being less complicated so that user can easily navigate the website function without many questions because everything is self-explanatory.

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I head over the safe and start to create my very first mixin safe. I really like procedure guide on left side the whole process because it's easier to complete all the requirements when the guide is always readable while I'm currently setting up the requirements.

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I setup my network name and choose Bitcoin currency for my safe and use my Mornin key app to scan the code for authorizing a transaction as owner of the safe. This whole process just takes less than a minute until I'm on the part which I need to subscribe the premium plan in order to create a safe.

I pay using Electrum and choose the 2$ premium plan for 1 safe per year since that's all I needed. I encounter some problem on this part because my checkout page become blank white the whole time while my Bitcoin payment is pending. The checkout page finishes the loading process after my bitcoin transaction received 1 confirmation. I just hope that the checkout page will just remain the same and show the status of the incoming transaction including the TXID.

The safe takes a bit time to become active(above 1 minute than the suggested waiting time). I click the received button on the safe and sent my Bitcoin using my Electrum wallet. This time, the transaction is very quick to reflect on my safe balance.

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I clicked the send button to test the withdrawal, At this point my deposit have 1 confirmation. I input my wallet address and the amount, I approved the transaction using my mornin key as owner by scanning the qr code and same with mixin messenger for member approval to complete the transaction. Everything went well and the transaction got confirmed instantly after all the authorization is finish.

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The mixin safe feature works perfectly as safe since it needs all the party involved to approve transaction from the safe.

Suggestion: Adding hiding safe that already useless (in an event that all party involved withdraw the balance and doesn't need it anymore) so that we can still use 1 free safe included for the basic plan or atleast make the basic plan available to purchased additional safe.

Summary:
Mixin safe is very simple and easy to use. It's safe because it requires multiple approval and you can approve all transaction using scan method. Payment method option is convenient since it has multiple option. The transaction speed and website responsiveness in every task is very quick which makes my overall experience smooth on all the process.

Here is my (examplens) review of the Mixin service

First of all, apologies for writing a bit later, but here we had two very unpleasant storms and my internet is quite unstable these days, most often of very poor quality.

I haven't read many other reviews, so I don't know much about the service itself, except for a little bit that I participated in the ANN thread.
Opening an account/wallet I have to say that the whole process is very vague. I came looking for Mixin, and the first thing I was offered for download was I came looking for Mixin, the first thing I was offered to download was Mornin key. Until now, I have never heard of that service, but without clear additional explanations, I am asked to download that application (which is not free by the way).
I downloaded the APK file and installed it on the Android device, but something is not right. (It is quite possible that my device is not adapted to the Android 7.0 version)

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I was forced to install the iOS app on my primary device anyway. And it worked.
I'm not a big fan of saving important things through applications on mobile devices, I see this as a cons in the whole thing.
Then I thought, hey, I need to test the Mixin messenger app, so I downloaded the Win app for my PC. That was fun, because that application is exclusively a messenger, without any advanced features, wallet, etc... Of course, login is only possible with the help of an activated mobile app. So, just another chat application

- Epilogue, somehow I ended up needing 3 devices for the whole process.

Mixin wallet and deposit. The Mixin Messenger (Android) application itself is the simplest it can be. I forgot to turn off notifications, as another user reminded me when he started spamming me with memes and some funny pictures. Not that I was happy when I saw gifs with a girl petting a dog in an application where I plan to deposit some money.
- A question for the Mixin team, how safe is it to allow users to send files in such an application?

When making a deposit, I can either copy/paste the BTC address or scan the QR code. Since I have to do this transaction from a computer, the QR code means nothing to me in that case, Mixin's PC version does not have access to the wallet, so I had to use a new external application to forward the address from the mobile device to the PC where I have access to my main wallet. Sound complicated? Me too.
If I have already connected Mixin Messenger with Mixin Safe, maybe the deposit addresses from the messenger could also be visible in this application.
The transaction was not visible before the final execution, not even as pending, which put me in a state of checking if I made a mistake somewhere in the whole process.

Mixin Safe The first impression is the simplicity of the interface, which is a good thing, at least for me.
Before any testing, let me emphasize a potential security risk. As I have been having a problem with the stability of the Internet last week, there have been numerous restarts and even a change of IP address by the provider. It is interesting that I have never been logged out of the Mixin Safe application.
- Shouldn't an application like this have some time lock after inactivity where a re-login is required?

I am in the process of adding new Safes to my account. Chose the standard plan of $2 to upgrade this out I immediately received a notification about a pending transaction, all that's left is to wait for the realization.
- I have to emphasize here once again, I am forced to learn about the application on the fly, with no support inside it. Without explanation, it seems as if it is assumed that every user is familiar with this idea.

The next thing I wanted to do was to create another Safe, but this time using the Ledger X wallet. Here, in the whole process, I came across a link to the article "How to use Ledger to create Mixin Safe?", so I was happy, there is a support section here after all. And this is a good example of the instructions I was hoping for from the beginning of this test.
I tried to add team members here. I recognized one username (Dr.Bitcoin_Strange) in the chat, so I tried to add him for testing purposes. I did not succeed in the search, and I tried using a username or Mixin ID. Maybe he needs to add me to his contacts. I gave up on this step and moved on.
Next, I needed to do an upgrade plan, where the Standard Plan $2 option is no longer possible. I guess I used my limit, so the only possibility is to upgrade to Elite or Prosperity plans.

So the next step transfer BTC from Mixin Messenger to Mixin Safe. Fixed 0.00025 BTC fee??

Withdraw from the Mixin safe.
Finally, the part that seemed clearer. Now I'm sorry that I didn't create a safe with Ledger (maybe I'll decide on that step anyway), I guess in that case, signing the transaction is different, apart from scanning the QR code.

Here we have the option of an upgrade plan. This is where the possibility of choosing to purchase a certain number of transactions would come in handy. For example, if I withdraw all funds and want to send them to two addresses, why am I forced to buy a larger plan if I will no longer use this service?
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/01/QOOKZ.png

Signing through the Mornin key took an unexpectedly long time, without any information. I wasn't sure if everything was okay with my phone, or if it was just a normal process.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/01/QODff.png

Finally, I'm waiting for the confirmation of the transaction, there is no fee charged this time, so I'm wondering if it's only now during the promo period or if will it always be like that.

By passing this test, the concept and basic idea of the project is clear. I really think it has a future, but a lot of development is still needed here. What I consider to be the biggest complaint is that there is a lot of ambiguity during the whole process.
At times I was really frustrated because I had to go back and check what I had overlooked. I am of the opinion that any service that deals with these and similar financial services must be maximally adapted and user-friendly.

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I made a certain number of screenshots, but I did not upload them due to technical difficulties. If necessary, I'll add them to the review.

Note: I've tried to cover all and hope so I did it well.
Bitcointalk Username: Hamza2424
Mixin ID: 41185679

So I'll try to not put massive images because its a review, not a guide, Still, I will try to add the necessary images as the UI or the issues-related images to highlight the things. So getting started with the Wallet preparation, Owner Wallet, and member alerts and we have some option as BitcoinCore, Monin Key, and Ledger to avoid the complexities, I preferred Mornin Key and created the Owner wallet and Member wallet.


Obviously, due to the unavailability of the payment method in my reach, I used the regular APK version from the official site. So it was quite simple some options to create a new or import wallet and a pretty clean and simple UI setup. A few things I want to mention about this Mornin Key version is the Stand of Backup to the wallet, where the recover phase backup page allows the screenshot, I think in that particular activity the screenshot should not be allowed it can be considered as a Suggestion, It's a testing version still I think I should have to mention it. Rest is all good.


 
After that here comes the main story with the Mixin Wallet / Messenger, So with the wallet, I would say as in 1st phase it was recommended to never lose the PIN, the +1 I've found here is the PIN selection process where we can't repeat the Pin pattern like 123 123. Wallet UI is smooth with a lot of pre-selected coins. A chat view with Bots and Annoucment channel Helps to frequently check transactions and new features and etc etc.

• So coming to the point what I found great about the wallet is the pre-processing transaction view in order to help the user to know the expected incoming transfers, as due to last network congestion still my other Hot wallets apps are not working well with the transaction records, so I've found this helpful and efficient.
• Secondly the wallet has predefined network fees that can't be adjusted as we can adjust the fees, in most wallets, which is weird and costly becasue it's costing me 0.00024 BTC which is even higher than the minimum withdrawal amount so I think there should be adjustable fees option or the real-time network cost. I asked the question to the support as well and they answered me.
• The transfer between the Mixing users and contacts is free and fast, even the Bot notifies you of the transfers, Which seems a good point

Using Mixin Safe is quite simple after reading the guide, No issues as it's the beta version I am hoping for more features in the gold tier lunch. Anyway, using Mornin Key I did setup my account and made a deposit there are differences according to the security configuration on users' needs, such as you can create your network from 1 member to up to 5 members.


I bought 2$ standard tier for the Mixin Safe and made a deposit according and made a withdrawal as well, the Point is in the timeline I"ve found after the first approval and members' approval, the ending approval is provided by the Owner and still transaction waits for the Mixin safe approval. I am not sure why? I did ask the Support as well. Over all the Mixing Safe is easy to use and recommended with greater security. There are different tiers of membership with different features. A safe option, members slots, and network confirmation in each tier is different and it costs around 100$ per year with the Standard mode.



In the end Mixin app & Mixin safe is easy to use and recommended with some unusual features, Currently, there are no bugs, a few recommendations I mentioned above, I will recommend using the Bitcoin core or other supported hardware wallet for the Owner. Deposit and withdrawals are simple if you find any complexity support is assistive, as I had asked a few questions and they entertained me well. It takes time but is still efficient.

Batch#2 deadline is over yesterday but the following users failed to submit their reviews:
Gianluca95 and jamyr contacted me. The new deadline for you two. is until 05/08 UTC, it's same as batch#3 deadline.

Unknown Op and electronicash you have few options to pick one:
1. Refund 0.003 btc to bc1qum26j0rdhf759gxyun5uxvhtcg6fpflym99y8m8pjnmhr3fsm77qpnd3u7 then update here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459839.0) in this topic. Before 3rd August 23:59 UTC

2. Post the review in the next two days. New deadline 3rd August 23:59 UTC.

3. If nothing is done by the time given then I will have to leave a negative feedback on your profile and we can call the case close. 

You two will be notified via PM shortly.

Cheers

Thanks Royse777 for giving me this opportunity

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Bitcointalk Username: Unknown Op
Mixin ID: 41186513

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Here is My Review:

This is not a first for me to test or review any website or app I previously reviewed whirlwind, megapari or utopia messenger app so I try my best to completely review mornin key, Mixin wallet or Safe Zone so nothing can be missed out. Firstly I downloaded these apps for review are:

• Mornin Key
• Mixin Crypto Wallet
• Safe Mixin Zone

1) Mornin Key

Installation and Download process:

Firstly, I go to https://safe.mixin.zone/ and design is so cool then I click on 'Get Started' the Owner wallet page is appeared there are few wallets like mornin key, ledger, Bitcoin core etc

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Then simply I choose Mornin key and click on 'Get Mornin Key' I directly go mornin key official site https://mornin.one/key I see that this app is available for both Android and IOS and I think this is not for window this is sad so I have mobile phone so I can easily download this app when I go to play store then I see that this app is not free so pay small like 0.99$ dollar. I have some Google play balance then I easily install this app on my phone

https://i.ibb.co/ByMhJ39/Screenshot-2023-07-31-22-03-31-592-com-android-vending.png

After Downloading:
I can not face any problems during download also I see about this app on play store I can guess all of them can easily access this app on your phone. Then I click on mornin key app then I see security lock using biometric and passcode this is cool, easy and simple then I use paas code and create good passcode then I login in mornin key the UI design is so simple every one can easily use this app and I also see search engine this is so good I can easily search any items by name, username or public key. After checking search engine then I go to setting where I can see that dark mode also available I like this and when I activate this interface look more amazing. Then I go to my account and backup my account with mnemonic keys and I can also reveal this keys on my account at any time

https://i.ibb.co/j5kHcSH/Screenshot-2023-08-01-16-51-51-956-one-mornin-key.png

2) Mixin Crypto Wallet Messenger

Installation and Download process:

After review Mornin key app then I download and install this Mixin wallet app from playstore this app is also available for both Android as well as IOS this is great. Same this app I can't see any problem during download and install

https://i.ibb.co/w7B8gpr/Screenshot-2023-08-01-17-23-32-013-com-mi-android-globallauncher.png

After installation and download completion, then I opn Mixin app design is so simple and look good I see that some guidelines received from Team Mixin then I click on it and read out all and all necessary and important things write on these guidelines messages this is so informative I like this feature.

https://i.ibb.co/cgHHxkH/Screenshot-2023-08-01-15-33-30-690-one-mixin-messenger.jpg

After carefully read out its guidelines than I click on 'Wallet' button then he ask to create PIN and I see that we can create 6 digit pin this is good for security then I click on start button I create strong passcode and I liked this system a lot because I have to confirm the password 4 times for password confirmation. After all I successfully created my wallet so easy and simple

https://i.ibb.co/jrX2Th1/Screenshot-2023-08-01-15-27-45-627-one-mixin-messenger.jpg   https://i.ibb.co/nnxRsJG/Screenshot-2023-08-01-17-56-00-235-one-mixin-messenger.jpg

Deposit Process:

What my wallet created then I see that there is a lot of crypto which I can deposit and test Mixin wallet. I see that interface so simple and easy to understand also see search engine can we easily search any crypto also I see some functions like Hidden Assets, All Transaction and Connected dApps which is so cool then I start deposit some funds I selected Usdt and also select BNB Network and deposit 10 USDT from Binance.

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After sometime I received my deposit and it will take almost 30 min to 1 hour. But the process is simple and easy anyone can simply use our this.But it take enough to reached out in my account

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Alternate Account for Testing:
 
I can create another account for testing to send fund from contact. Simply I create account and then a text message from my main account then I add to contact click on '+' button then choose transfer option and then write amount and click on send. Instantly I received 2 usdt with zero fees which is too good and I don't face any problems for using this feature then I send back to my main account.

https://i.ibb.co/0Qt9gK9/Screenshot-2023-08-01-20-59-00-305-one-mixin-messenger.png

3) Safe Mixin Zone

After review Mixin wallet then I decide to create a safe then I go to site and scan out my QR code from Mixin and then I create a new safe by using mornin key this process also so easy just I scan it from mornin app and then I go back to my account

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I noticed that it is clearly written that this is a beta software and don't store you assets more than 1000$ dollar this is good thing it can be clearly note that you carefully about this and I review other features like deposit and withdraw, activities, transaction all these work very smooth and not face any bugs.

Withdrawal Process:

Now it is time to withdraw my fund from Mixin wallet and now let's see withdraw proceed also so simple easy and smooth. Firstly I go to wallet and then select usdt click on send button I already add address then I select it and enter amount click on continue button then verify withdrawal through biometric and confirm transaction. This method is soo easy and simple. The transaction fees also not too high and also reliable. I received my withdrawal after few mins with no any issue.

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Conclusion:
Mixin Safe Service is very simple and easy to use I really like it. Instant fund transfer feature also very fast as well as zero fees this is also good thing. Mobile app also so friendly everyone use this app and interface of app is also to cool. The chat feature is also good when my deposit not received then I contact him he ask that you can receive you fund as soon as possible also he ask me for transaction hash for confirmation. I really enjoy to use and test Mixin service. I hope the excellent service continues and I wish the Mixin project great success.

Good Luck Mixin Safe Team  :)

Review:

For this review, I tested the Mixin Messenger app, the Mixin safe browser and Mixin desktop app. I installed the Mixin Messenger app on my phone from the app store and registered with my phone number. I also created a 6-digit PIN for app security. It was more complicated than setting up pins on other apps. I had to enter a 6-digit pin and confirm it three times.

Using phone numbers for registration is a common practice for messenger apps, but it may deter some users who are concerned about their privacy or security. Although dummy numbers can be used for testing purposes, they do not provide a reliable way to recover the mixin messenger account or the mixin safe account in case the pin is forgotten. Therefore, it would be beneficial to offer an alternative option to use email addresses for registration. This would also solve the issue of not receiving the verification code via SMS, which happened to me several times with different numbers.

I preferred the browser over the desktop mode because it was more convenient. The site layout is simple and looks okay to me. Desktop app is not properly working. I had a problem logging in. When I was logging in, the desktop app displayed an error message. This happened in the desktop app after scanning the QR code. Desktop app didn't work after I scanned the QR code again and again. 

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The dark theme is not bad. Adding contacts was easy. I just needed a friend's username or phone number, and then I could start chatting with them.  I added a friend using the ID code and we exchanged bitcoins through the messaging section. It was very practical and easy.

https://i.ibb.co/MCD0kKZ/Whats-App-Image-2023-08-01-at-21-46-09.jpg

The mixin messenger is similar to WhatsApp or Telegram. I like everything about it and I can use it to chat with some of my friends. It works well except for some missing features, such as video calls, read receipt toggle, and online status indicator.

Conclusion:

I had a smooth experience overall. The app is great, simple and functional. My experience with the Mixin messenger was positive, but there are some things that could make it better. It could improve some aspects of the in-app wallet.

Suggestion: The chat features are mostly fine, just some minor suggestions. I also like the option to delete a chat only for me or for everyone. Adding a chat reaction would be awesome too.

Suggestion: A tutorial video on the whole process would be very helpful to reduce some stress.

Suggestion: Add an email address option for registration.

Suggestion: Allow sending to the wallet address from clipboard directly and simplify the Withdraw page details.

🚨 Important notice for reviewers who create Mixin Safes using Bitcoin Core 🚨

You must use Bitcoin Core 25.0 or later in order to broadcast transactions from the safe. Older versions do not sign the PSBT from the private key wallet which prevents transactions from being approved by the owner. (In other words, preventing you from getting your money out).

If you created a safe with an older version of Core, you can still send a transaction from it using one of the newer Bitcoin Core versions. I'll pass the info down to cedricfung as I don't see it addressed anywhere on the site.

There's no need to panic.

Reviewing new projects is always tough because we have to check different aspects and then give an opinion. MIXIN SAFE also was a new project for me and before this i never looked out alternatives to this one. Anyway I checked out each step very carefully and then wrote a review so that any deficiency in the whole process improved in the beta stage. Some steps were very lengthy and there was a short way to do it but I chose a long method, as I have determined to check out every aspect and give review on every single step.

MIXIN MESSENGER WEBSITE:
Mixin Messenger official website is well organized with eye catching design. I opened a website on PC and Mobile. Website design is mobile friendly and only shows Playstore and APK download option in the mobile while in PC we can view all available download options.

DOWNLOADING MIXIN MESSENGER
Currently Mixin messenger is available for Android, Apple, Linux ,Mac and windows. I choose Windows for a better view.

Mixin messenger is available in Microsoft official store and I recommended this one because it was checked and approved by the store so no malware and no tension of the virus. I am using an HP laptop with advance accessories so i downloaded the app from the official store and it's downloaded and installed in a minute.

Note: Exe files are also available which is best option for low and old desktops that cannot load Windows 10 and have no access to the Microsoft official store.

https://i.ibb.co/zXrFsv4/download-Mixin.png (https://ibb.co/tq4zBrJ)

I was expecting that this will be enough to login directly but after launching the app it promt for signin through smartphone and i have to first download app in smart phone, signup and then scan QR code to login in desktop app which is very lengthy process.

 Installing app in smartphone is very easy and available in the Playstore.

SIGNUP AND LOG IN:
first i opened app in smart phone and mobile phone number is only way to sign up. verification code arrived in few seconds. The whole signup process went smoothly and then the first step in smartphone after SIGNUP is to setup new Pin code. after setting up full option  available including Wallet, Theme setting, contact, scan, chat and some others setting.

Mobile:
The mobile app is very fast, mobile friendly and easily understandable.
Chat option is available to send messages (text and voice). voice call and sending photos, videos are also available. at Short Chat has all features available with addition of sending token from wallet to our contact in sample way.

In mobile dark theme is available and i personally use this to keep safe my eye.

PC:
I tried many time to login in Mixin messenger desktop by Scanning QR code hut unfortunately it failed everytime. I tried more than ten times and then finally i give up.

https://i.ibb.co/sQrdtZd/scan-desktop.png (https://ibb.co/82VLXHL)

after 12 hours I tried again and this time successfully logged into the desktop. I'm interested to see that the mobile app is much better than the desktop and no wallet option available in the desktop version..


In desktop appearance could be changed to dark mode and edit the size of chat. adding manual proxy is also available.

https://i.ibb.co/nzF5tRq/pc-app.png (https://ibb.co/pJS95n6)


Mornin:

From above introduction it is clear now that Mornin key is used to save our private key cloudly. Mixin has partnership with this app because it is safest and secure way to safe key.

In Playstore we have to pay 0.99$ to download and we can download APK files but download other than Playstore possesses high risk.

Installation Process is easy and only required to save optional phrase for future safety. This app is just to save our key and other all task done in Mixin messenger.




Mixin safe is only available in web and we cannot directly create safe in app. by opening official website the first work to do is login through mixin messenger. This is very easy work and required just scanned Qr code.

https://i.ibb.co/DG2KPZ3/mixin-safe.png (https://ibb.co/GsSPfqg)

Creating safe is quiet easy which need mixin messenger and mornin key approval for linking so that when we withdraw our fund we will need to approve from these two app. These two apps will be required if anyone lost access to private key.

For creating Mixin Btc Safe we have to go through these steps

1: creating names for Safe and choosing BTC or LTC. I choosed BTC token to test the system.

2: Chose wallet that supports Signin. This wallet will store our private key. at this time Mornin key, Bitcoin core and Ledger are available. I already have a Mornin key installed and now just to scan QR code to sign.

Select number of members we want to add in Signin approval request.
We can set the number of thresholds from 1 to 5 which decided the number of users need to confirm transaction. for fast approval we can set only one and only our Mixin approval will be needed for every transaction.
for high privacy we could add 2-5 members and without confirmation of all users no transaction will be proceed.

https://i.ibb.co/LJSWjPG/member.png (https://ibb.co/vQ1GyBt)

Signing approval from Mixin messenger.
QR code will be required to scan from Mixin messenger.

Upgrade package:
Three packages available at this time and we can select according to our need. The cheapest one is 2$ per year where only one Safe wallet could be created, maximum 3 members could be added and one transaction is totally free. 100$ pack is best for long term users where we cab create 16 safes, add up to 10 members and 16 free transactions.

Mixpay team is responsible for this purpose and many payment options are available and easiest one is paying through crypto where all big tokens are available to deposit.

Currently Mixpay have these options for upgrade:

* Crypto Wallet (28 Crypto tokens available)
* Connect with MIXIN MESSENGER WALLET
* Connect with other wallets such as Metamask, Coinbase, okx, bitkeep, Imtoken, Tokenpocket, Mathwallet, Itoken


I personally deposited from Binance and by Scanning the qr code address + amount automatically added and payment received after successful withdraw from Binance. This process is very fast and my payment received timing is just 3 seconds. i will give 5/5 rate .

Last step: Signing approval through Mornin key:
The second time the Mornin key Scan will be required to activate the safe. My safe is now fully ready for the transaction.

https://i.ibb.co/Mgg9TXY/active.png (https://ibb.co/CwwWdrk)

Deposit:
After successful creation of Mixin Safe now our wallet is ready for performing any transaction. Our Btc address shows clearly in our safe, we can copy it from there or just click the Received button available at the top Home screen.
Minimum deposit is 0.0001(2.9$) BTC. sending less then this amount will be permanent loss of btc. This amount is very low and i believe no one will try to deposit less than 3$.

I deposited 0.003 BTC from Binance to Mixin Safe wallet. I carefully observed how long btc deposit take to complete. BTC recieved after 1 confirmation and Total balance showing value in $ and just below amount is showed in BTC.

Withdraw:
Now to withdraw fund  Mixing messenger and Mornin key app needed to approve transaction. I clicked on send and then page appears to select safe. I have created only one safe so it's showing only one with anon name and then wrote amount to withdraw and proceeded to next page.

now Approve transaction in Mixin messenger required. I have selected one threshold, this is why only one mixing messenger approval is required.

The next and last step required Mornin key approval by scanning and withdrawing successfully.

Transaction hash created after some minutes to check the status of transaction. Withdrawing funds also went smoothly like deposit and I received funds instantly after approving. Withdrawing BTC is absolutely free and gas  fee was also paid by Mixin team and i recieved full payments.

Transaction History:

MY BTC ADDRESS: bc1qx03pkd50jz6glz8craphvlqkwrxyydu8erw0hj
MIXIN SAFE BTC ADDRESS: bc1q6kxxy9s0xtnuq30lrhszas8n2vp5yl4usqdngzqmdg40ted8002sqx7atn

DEPOSIT HASH: cb39ce422e92edd91c3a2955e4245c28b445710e0b6903fbabfd3a36c458c159

WITHDRAW HASH: fe1d4299f95bbc90e151b6822deaa12f18c90fe9a28ba62bc262e60c86ba3b66

https://i.ibb.co/fDCpHXK/transaction.png (https://ibb.co/jJLMD8x)


* Decentralized way to restore key
* No access to fund without accessing aleast 2 key.
* Unlock period for Mixin team key.
* no hidden fee when deposit and withdraw.
* Fast deposit and withdraw.
* lot of options available for upgrading mixin safe.
*Add many users for approval to strict security.

* Desktop Mixin needs to be improved and makes it more valuable than the android version by adding wallets and other attractive features like playing games with friends etc.
* It will be better to add a trust wallet and safepal wallet to connect for Upgrading package .
* Desktop Mixin was failed to sigin many times which should be checked.

@Gencecikmen, some more efforts on the review was expected. It was not a good job at all.

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Members in Batch#4:
Your deadline to submit the reviews before 10/08/2023 @23:59 UTC. Please do not miss the deadline.

Your deadline is in two days only. Please do not miss this extended deadline.

Your deadline is in two days too. Hopefully none of you will miss it.

Thanks

Here's mine:

As instructed, I followed the user guide (https://support.mixin.one/en/category/mixin-safe-n3u479/) whose first suggestion is to use the Mornin key to create Mixin Safe. It's the most logical for me since I don't wanna turn on a Bitcoin core that has to update nor would use Ledger for a new app. Not the usual I guess but I chose to download the APK for Android to test. It's not recommended to download APK but I feel brave for doing so and yeah I did it and it's the easiest to do just like installing the Mixin messenger.

It's connecting to Mixin Safe Dashboard that is making this app a lot weirder because I thought having Mornin Key and Mixin Messenger is all I need. As it turns out, a user needs to scan a code to link their account to the Mixin Safe dashboard (https://safe.mixin.zone/login).


It must be related to phones old phone models because my problem started when my scan doesn't work. Kelly the chat support is very patient in guiding me, this is something she must have faced every now and then for she knew the team is still developing the product. She had to ask what my operating system was and what browser I'm using. It must have been a common problem. But after trying it out on different browsers, the scan worked when I browse https://safe.mixin.zone/dashboard with Chromium browser and I finally linked my Mixin messenger to the Mixin Safe. Chromium is different from Chrome by the way. I tried on Firefox is also didn't work but it worked on Chromium.

I began to understand the purpose of the Mixin Safe when I saw the lines "The best solution for Inheriting Bitcoin". Who wouldn't want to pass his wealth to his sons and daughters?
When I scanned Mixin Login, it says "Provide the general public with state-of-the-art Bitcoin custody solutions." It's not actually for Mixing Bitcoin which is the first impression for some people just when they see the name of this project.


Once a Mixin Safe is created, you can not add another member to it. This should be emphasized before a user finalizes his New Safe creation. Maybe a little popup window reminding the user about adding a contact or someone in the Safe he is creating. Therefore you need to create another Safe in case you want to add another member like your brothers, sons, and daughters.


I did try to create another Safe with a few contacts I added using the Mixin IDs of the users here but then again, there is the need to upgrade my plan for that $2 I paid for the upgrade was meant only for 1 Mixin Safe. The upgrade for you to be able to create 5 Mixin Safe costs $8/year.

Expectation:
I'm hoping to see the team would add altcoin network one day when a user creates a New Safe like the ETH or BNB. These must be something in their mind since the Mornin Key have a list of tokens on it and even in paying for the Mixin Safe upgrade, they also accept altcoins in fact I paid mine in EOS with their weird memo tag that I did have to scan as well.


I think plans should not be limited to one year only. They should be offering a 3-5 year plan instead of offering a 5 Safe for Elite plan which cost $8/year. These plans will be worry-free for users, doesn't need to keep tabs every year. A safe for a small company with 10 employees having their funds in BTC, I guess the Mixin Safe will be useful and will be for long term as well.


As for now, only a few wallets can be used for Mixin Safe like the Morning Key, Bitcoin Core, and Ledger. Not all Bitcoin users are using these wallets. If they want more adoption of Mixin Safe, they would need the popular ones to connect to it like the Trezor, Electrum, and Exodus.

Conclusion:
Mixin Safe is for now a Beta. I think there are lots of people who will be using it since many of us wants to share their wealth with the members of the family. The owner key and members key is all that's needed for everyone can spend the coins in the safe. Also as advertised, the project will likely be the way in handing out the birthright of their kids without having to deal with lawyers.  

USERNAME: Oluwa-btc


Downloading the App
This is my own part of the Mixin Safe review and I will like to be very swift since my experience was not as complex as I thought  would be. I was able to download the Mixin Safe app through the main site without any difficulty.  I preferably choose to download on Play Store since I Android interface was always easy to use for me. The downloading was very fast and the Mixin Safe app has little Megabyte which made it very faster since the space was small.

After downloading,  I quickly create an account using a phone number to back it up so incase I have to retrieve it back. I was also prompted to create a 6 digits pin to backup my account which was one of the safety precautions of Mixin Messenger app to prevent unnecessary access by a third party. I took a walk around the app to see some of the functions that amazed me alot. I discovered that I can easily create a chat group and add my contacts making it end to end encrypted. It has a white background and a touch of blue with black words that makes it suitable to use and assimilate. 

Mixin Messenger Improvement
I would have been so happy if it has the option to adjust the background like putting it on a dark mode because I am a kind of person that like controlling the amount of light emissions from my mobile. I am allergic to been exposed to too much light for a long time and this is one of the reasons why I also switch my phone servings to dark mode because the white background generate too much white light that do affect my eye when exposed for a longer time than expected. 

The option of using only phone number is a turn off for me, so it will be impressive if the team can add other options that users can use to create accounts apart from just using phone numbers. This will be better for those of use that don't like using our phone online or attaching it to our wallet for any known reason. Since the Mixin Messenger wallet is a decentralised one, it will be much better to have so many options so create account. I also hope more coins will be supported because I tried searched for some of the meme coins I'm holding and can't find them.

Downloading Mornin Key
The morning Key is a good app but I add some challenges when downloading it. At first I downloaded the APK file since it was free to use but my device did not support it. I tried deleting it and downloading it with another browser but still couldn't install it which was a big headache to me downloading it consecutively.  I had no option than to use another mobile device to download it because I was almost fading up. I tried the Bitcoin Core as another option  but there was a lot of configurations I had to do to enable me to use it with my Mixin Messenger. 

The use of Mornin Key was the most appropriate option for me since it was easier to use.  I finally downloaded it with another mobile device so I can use it with the Mixin Messenger.  After downloading,  I quickly created an account and create a pin that was another safety precaution. Thr Mornin Key app was very simple to use with a nice interface. I was able to move around the app since it was a seed phrase back up app.

Creating my own contacts
The contact adding was a big challenge to me and I never wanted to waste time to add contacts to my list. The app was easier to use and adding contacts using the scan code bar. I was able to scan my contact barcode to add then to my contact list and the process was very quick without any delay. The speed of Mixin Messenger was very fast and I love it. I also allowed my contacts to add me too to there contact so tag we can see one another and create a single group testing it how efficient it was. Thr Mixin Messenger was very easy to use  with so many features that was appealing.

Creating a New Safe
For me to get to this stage confused me a lot because I was wondering how i am going to create a New Safe after I have done the necessary things to do. I was able to scan the bar code on the Mixin Website to get to my account, enabling me to have an access to create my own New Safe. The process of creating my New Safe account was very fast since k have already done everything that was necessary for me to do before getting to the stage of creating a New Safe. I added the number of person to confirm transaction and I was able to get to the stage where I was asked to upgrade. I paid $2 in bitcoin although there was so many options for me to pay but I preferred paying through bitcoin.

After sending the Bitcoin using my personal wallet, I waited for it to show on my New Safe and it does not take upto 3 minutes for the first confirmation before the second confirmation making the transaction to be approved. Immediately the transaction was approved, i was referred to another page to complete the registration.  After I was done with the opening of the New Safe account,  I decided to make a transaction to test the wallet based on transaction fee and how fast it will take to complete a single transaction.  It was very quick for the transaction to want through. 

Conclusion
MY experience using the Mixin Messenger and registering my Mixin Safe account was very simple and smooth. The team had really done a good job creating a good wallet that support so many coins and Blockchains that is a major desire of every users to see what they are looking for on the wallet. I hope more coins and chains will be updated soon so that we can have a smooth experience using the Mixin wallet with our New Safe accounts.

Bitcointalk username: Davidvictorson
My Review of Mixin Safe - Decentralized Bitcoin Custody Solutions

Having being accepted into the review campaign. I read through the thread once again. This was to enable get a perfect idea of what was expected of me a reviewer. Gladly, there was a to-do which provided excellent directions for review. Therefore, I will follow the guide and provide my honest review of the product. Let’s get started.
creating a Mixin Safe - the process

(a) Download and Install Mornin Key
To create a Mixin Safe, I first have to download and install Mornin Key. Since I am an Andriod user, I opened my Google PlayStore and searched for Mornin Key. I had to pay around $0.69 to buy the app before I could download and install the app. I made the payment and was therefore able to download and install the app.
The two things I noticed from the Google Play Store about the app is that first, there is no review and second, it is yet to receive any rating.
I then proceeded to creating an account. I entered my preferred username, I choose the passcode option rather than the biometric option. Next, I was asked to secure my wallet by writing down the mnemonic phrase on a piece of paper and storing in a vault or safe place. I clicked on next and was asked to enter the mnemonic phrase. When I was done, it took me to a new page.
     
(b) Download and Install Mixin Messenger
After downloading and installing the Mornin Key, I proceeded to my Google PlayStore once again to download and install the Mixin Messenger. This was pretty smooth and it didn’t require me to buy it. Unlike the Mornin Key, this one already has a rating of 4.5 and a couple of reviews too.
To sign up, I was required to enter my phone number. A 4-digit verification pin was sent to my number. I didn’t experience any delays in receiving the verification pin. I received the pin in less than 3 minutes. After which I enter my preferred username. Then got a welcome message from the Mixin team which contained the messenger’s guidelines.  I proceeded to setting a 6 digit wallet PIN so as to create my first digital wallet. I entered and confirmed the pin four times. It took some few minutes synchronise and then viola, the wallet was created.


(c)Create Mixin Safe
To create my Mixin safe, I had to use the Mornin key I had prepared earlier to do it. But this is like the tricky part because I had to leave the app and go to the website to be able to do this. Me thinks that everything should be done in the app. It is a hassle going from the app to the website and then back. Crypto noobs may lose interest as they would conclude that the process is cumbersome. Okay back to the creating the safe on the website.
 
I followed the whole process on the website and the final step was to use Mixin Messenger to Scan the QR Code on my computer screen. I did so and an authorization request popped up – to read public profile etc I granted it my entering my passcode. Upon which I received a message on the app saying I have signed into Mixin Safe Successfully.
Going forward I followed the instruction and guide on the https://support.mixin.one/en/article/how-to-use-mornin-key-to-create-mixin-safe-1u1rf36/
I clicked on safe, then new safe, then entered the new safe name and choose bitcoin as my preferred network and clicked on Next. The next page is to confirm the owner of the safe by selecting the private key wallet that controls the current safe. I selected Mornin key and used it to scan the QR Code on the page. After this step, the next was to set up members and threshold.

At this point, I got the message that I have to upgrade the plan to create the safe

On the upgrade plan window, I chose the Standard $2 per year option and proceeded to make payment. I chose the USDT(TRC20) as my payment crypto and then proceeded to make the payment. I went back to my dashboard and clicked on CREATE to complete the process which required that I use Mornin Key to scan the QR code which was provided.
(c) Making a Deposit and Withdrawal on Mixin Safe
I used my Binance exchange wallet and transferred 0.0005087BTC to my Mixin safe Bitcoin wallet. It took about 45minutes for my Safe wallet to get credited. There was also a notification message on my Mixin Messenger that reads [Davidvictorson] received a deposit of 0.0004587 BTC. I go to my dashboard and the balance has reflected.

The withdrawal was pretty much the same thing. The process went like this From Safe – Receiver and Amount – Summary – Member(s) Approval – Owner Approval. I used my mornin Key for the approval. I monitored it on https://bitcoinblockexplorers.com/. It was faster than the deposit.

(e) Final Comments
1.   I totally enjoyed the process from downloading the apps to creating the safe, making deposit and withdrawals.
2.   For a first timer it wasn’t easy. The guide was straightforward and easy to follow.
3.   I have no problems with the phone number for sign up but then again there should be more than one signup option.
4.   I would also recommend that users drop their reviews and ratings on the Google Play page of the Mornin Key app.
5.   I look forward to doing more transactions.

rby Reviews Mixin Safe Project.
Bitcointalk username: rby
Batch: 3

..Task Performed:..

• I created mixin safe, made a deposit and sent transaction
• I prepared Owner wallet using Morning key
• I prepared the Members wallet
• I downloaded the Mixin messenger
• I set the pin, added contacts and set emergency contact
• I joined the mixin Testing group  
• I sent BTC to my contact from the chat interface (a fascinating experience)
• Paid a $2 upgrade from the mixin wallet
• I wrote my honest review of the mixin project.

..Preamble:..
Since the creation of bitcoin, the most challenge bitcoin users have faced is safe keeping of bitcoin. Many people which includes early adopters of bitcoin lost huge amount of bitcoin due to poor bitcoin management skill. Satoshi couldn't even bother himself much about this, such that he told us that the lost bitcoin is an advantage to the network as it makes bitcoin more scarce.

Recently, CZ of Binance made an exaggerated statement that 99% of the people will lose crypto storing in safe custody. Little did he know that mixin is coming with a solution.
This is the most fascinating part of this project and that is the reason of my interest in the project.

..My overall experience:..
I will firstly acknowledge that this is a big project unlike what I thought before applying for the review. Not only being a big project, it embarked on a project that isn't what an ordinary bitcoin user is conversant with. If anyone wants to be his own bank, recover lost bitcoin or seed, sh/e should be able or willing to make some sacrifices of learning.
From the morning key to the mixin.safe has a nice user experience and interface. There isn't so much deviation from the standards of a wallet or a messenger in either case, but uniqueness is maintained.

I had no issues with installation of morning key and mixin messager, but at a time I saw myself moving forth and back. It looked as if I was doing a repetitive task but at every repeating stage, the task isn't becoming easy. This was to be a big issue for a newcomer in the crypto world who has never installed a wallet or run a node.
Transactions were fast and prompt. Sending bitcoin from a private wallet to mixin was far, but the reverse experienced a high fee which many other reviewers have complained.
It seems the team is seriously maintaining the whole project based on the recommendations from this review. I was stuck while trying to access the wallet for more than 15 mins, with the information Server under maintenance error 502
Sending bitcoin to a contact was fast and cool.

My experience within the time of this review convinced me that this is a project I will have to use. I have mapped a plan of calling the attention of my tech savvy friends who are not in this forum to this project. This will surely be our new place of online hang out.

..Pluses ++:..
Below are features of the mixin decentralized ecosystem that deserve my accolade. There are more to this, but I have to list this for now:

• The first project I have seen that maintains decentralization and as well as offers a believable bitcoin inheritance solution
• A messenger with inbuilt crypto wallet. You chat and you share funds in same platform
• Quote
  The OWNER key is managed by third party and popular bitcoin wallets,  can have a normal backup solution, and no need to worry about it's stolen or lost. Because nobody will be able to spend the coins with this only OWNER key, and the coins can be recovered even if the OWNER key is completely lost.
• The multi-sig method of transaction approval gives a resounding believe on security
• User friendly interfaces
• A little fun. I had to play games to wait for customer support. Unlike other platforms that I may boringly wait endlessly for the support

..Challenges:..
My experience wasn't totally a seamless one, so I have to list some challenges I encountered in this project.

• Having to frequently move from one device to another in order to perform or approve transaction was a challenge.  I understand it is for security purpose according to the multi-sig model that was used. I do no also have a recommendation of a better way to handle this, but then it was challenging to me.
• The mixin.safe interface is not mobile responsive.  I mean, I perceive the team behind this project is very competent.  They should understand that the responsiveness of recent time is mobile-first(because many people are using mobile than desktop). At a time I began to think that it's a deliberately act to achieve something.  But whatever it might be, it really frustrated me that i had to turn my phone to landscape and portrait within seconds. I wanted to stop reviewing till I have access to my computer, but on a seond thought the deadline for this review will elapse.   https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/01/QlON5.jpeg
• Transaction error 503 service unavailable invalid character 'W' looking for beginning of value - code : 400. I tried for some minutes to solve this, because this is relayed to JSON files. Not until I discovered I was using a crypto address in private wallet. I don't know why the addresses from either exchange or wallet are not compatible
• There are some kind of restrictions, majorly in the plan upgrade. I will like to know what other reviewers will say here

..Questions:..

• Is P-USD mixin's stable coin?
• Is the morning key password manager a project of mixin?
• Members to approve transaction was set to 1 by default, does increasing the number increase security?
• During registration, phone number was needed and not email. But during chat with support, email was needed, why?  https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/01/Ql0Pc.jpeg
• If someone sends me an address for a transaction, will I have to ask the person if the address was from a wallet or an exchange? https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/01/QllrP.jpeg

..Recommendations:..

• There should be varying fee for transactions in the mixin crypto messenger.  Transaction of 0.123 BTC should be higher than a transaction of 0.0036 BTC. It doesn’t make much sense for transaction fee to be higher than transaction itself. If you feel no one should send 0.0001 BTC, then increase the transaction limit.
• I purposely entered a wrong 6 digit pin and I got this response. https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/01/QxUCj.jpeg. I mean 24hrs is too long for someone who wants to complete a transaction to wait. But then, I proceeded without waiting.
• I have seen many reviewers suggesting that all the fees be eliminated. But if mixin wants other ways to earn, a means to convert from one coin to another could be introduced here. I know this is a wallet and not a CEX. But I wanted to convert btc to other coins and would have done it even if a small fee was charged me. This is not making so much sense because my proposal I am suggesting a touch of centralization https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/01/Qxuwf.jpeg

..Conclusions:..
For the purpose of the review I have dropped this, but will from henceforth visit the discussion thread of this project because I have found a great interest in the project, it solved an existing problem in a convenient way.
I pause here and allow other reviewers to cover other areas I could not cover in the review.

Bitcointalk username:  Sujonali1819

Thanks to Royse777 for giving me the opportunity for reviewing the Mixin Safe project.

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First Impression:

I am very new to such a project and I did not review this type of project previously. So it's a little bit hard for me to understand everything and try to do some study before making the review and it takes some time.

Installing Mixin Messenger:

After visiting the Safe website I go to download Mixin Messenger and I go to the google play store redirected from the Mixin Safe website. And I have successfully Downloaded it without any issues.

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Creating Mixin Messenger account:

After successfully installing the Mixin Messenger App I go to create the account and see only the option of creating an account with a Mobile phone. But was looking for an option like email. Since it is all about crypto I think they should keep at least another option for creating an account. This will help to feel good about the user's privacy and also increase the installation/usage of this app I assume.

Then I tried to create an account with a Phone number and got a verification code on time. I saw some users were talking about delaying receiving the verification code. But I got it on time and very the code easily without any errors.


During the creating new wallet we need to set a pin. I was really amazed when I see the app asking to type 4 times the confirmation pin. It's annoying but I love it so that people don't forget the pin later :)

After successfully setting up the 5 digits pin. I can see a new wallet with a lot of coins. It's looking good that they are accepting a lot of cryptos. Here are some of them.


Mixin Messenger Features:

After creating the wallet I try to keep an eye on everywhere in around the app. I found some features that I really love. Some of them.

1. Privacy - Setting -> Account -

• Change Phone number: Nice feature where I am eligible for changing phone number if needed
• Delete account: I really feel good with this feature. It's always good If I can delete my account permanently.

2. Privacy - Setting -> Account -> Privacy

• Conversation: Where I can choose who can message me
• Phone Number: I can hide phone numbers from everyone like Telegram
• Incognito Keyboard: I love to switch on this feature
• Finger Print: This is also good for safety

3. Privacy - Setting -> Account -> Security

• Emmergency Contact: Where I can set a emergency contact
• Athorizations: I can give an authorization to other contact
• Logs: Where I can see my logs

4. Hiding Assets

5. Changing Theme and chat background.


Adding Contact:

To add a contact I created another account and add it as the contact. It also went smoothly.


Adding funds in Mixin Messenger wallet:

To make a deposit I choose LTC for lower fees. and I deposited some 0.174 LTC which arrived after 12 confirmations and it takes 5-7 minutes.

Installing Mornin key app:

Like downloading Mixin Messenger I also went to the google play store. And I realize that it is a Paid app and need to pay around $1 to buy it. But I was not able to pay due to the payment method. So I start to search again on the website and found a link of downloading the apk file free.

Creating Mornin key

After installing the app I created successfully the Mornin key after passing a few common steps which are super easy and without any issues.



Creating Mixin Safe

To create a Mixin safe I visit https://safe.mixin.zone/ and connect my phone to my PC by scanning the QR code easily.


After adding the contact Clicked on next, and was redirected to a new page where I need to upgrade the plan. For upgrading the plan there were a lot of crypto payments accepted. But I tried first the MixPay+wallet, But it won't work(I got some error like insufficient funds. ) Later I choose Crypto as a payment method and select LTC. and I paid the fee of 2 USD from Mixin Messenger wallet without any issue.



After successfully creating the Safe it's activated and generated a new LTC wallet address. I scanned the wallet address from Mixin Messenger and send the fund from there. I sent 0.12 LTC which was $10, but the fee was 0.02 LTC which is like $1.66, I have to admit that the fee was bigger for mainly LTC. It should be less.


Btw it has arrived at my LTC Safe. without any issue. No need to time the test of the withdrawal method. After trying the withdrawal stuff I realize that you need to pass the same steps that you have passed during creating a new Safe. It it's good and secure.

Send -> Select Safe -> Receiver wallet address and Amount -> Member approval and Lastly Owner Approval (Mixin key scan).

After passing these steps the transaction was successful (takes some time since needs a few approvals). I got the fund to my other wallet smoothly without any issues.

Transfering fund to contact

After doing all the above things last I try to make a transfer to my contact. Simply click on my contact and go to the message page. From the bottom, I find an option like Transfer, Clicked on it, and come to a screen for inputting the amount and confirm button. I did and it was more than smooth and faster. I love it.



Final Impression: After completely doing all the essential parts I am really happy to use this platform. Now I am feeling better and easy to use. The most important thing is due to the multi-sig feature where users need multi approvals to make a transaction, I have to admit that it's super secured and recommended for all to use this platform.

Sugestions

• Login Option: As you all know, most crypto users like to protect their privacy, I will really suggest adding another option beside Phone number
• Withdrawl Page Scanner: While I was withdrawing the fund from my Safe (https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/04/GZauP.png). I need to put the address manually. I think if we have an option for scanning addresses would be good I think.

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