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Pretty much aware that not a lot of people are into SC/BW. But it's really fun to watch with or without any bets. I'll keep trying to get you guys into this brilliant game just like I had some part of getting some of you into the UFC... ;) Enjoy.

Will update the thread as needed.

AfreecaTV StarCraft League Remastered Season 16

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Format: Tournament
Venue: AfreecaTV Studios, Seoul, South Korea
Start Date: August 14, 2023
End Date: October 13, 2023
Info: https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/AfreecaTV/StarCraft_League_Remastered/16

Live Stream (Korean): http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1
Live Stream (English): http://play.afreecatv.com/dth03119

Round of 24

Betting markets available at Stake and Sportsbet. LFG!

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Play Off Stages

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Right now I am new in this I am not really a gamer but just like you I also like watching games like battle realms or this one starcraft or watching Diablo back then with my friends, surely I was really happy just watching the games but I am not really playing it, but surely I had some idea on what is Zerg, Terran, and Protos maybe I would play the the old game with the expansion set, surely this is my 1st time going inthis thread and pretty much there is no one in here but us,

I see that the 1st games will start today August 14, 2023 or due to timeline it will be tomorrow, because for sure I can not see any details yet and can not watch any video right because I was at the office right now and there are sites that are blocked in out office, but will surely follow what information you will post here and will research the teams that many got into the finals or might win this tournament,

^ I'm not much of a SC/BW gamer too but I played it a lot as a kid. My brothers and cousins were into the SC progaming scene so I kinda knew what's going on... And as a sports betting afficionado, I think there's some value in these lines because not a lot of people know about the game.

Anyway, here are the results of groups A and B. All winners were expected except one... This guy 'Calm'. He was almost a 3 to 1 underdog but he plays pretty good ZvZ and ZvP. Looking forward in watching him at the next round.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 15, 2023, 12:47:27 PM

For sure it was really that popular back then and back then and now I am still a noob about this game even though I have played it before I still don't know what I am doing because of so many upgrades and requirements to build something, actually, I am still not well versed on this kind of things, but surely if your brother and cousins are playing Starcraft back then did you notice the MOD one with a Gundam on it, I actually come across it once back then and it was really a neat addition,

Is this youtube Channel updated? or it is the latest match-ups https://www.youtube.com/@afreecatvesports432

In Group A Zoma is doing fine and now has a dominant position in Group A and Mini is in 2nd, while Group B has Calm with a dominant win while Soulkey is at the 2nd place, Calm is surely playing well actually and I will not be surprised if he got this championship,

^ They never played any mod. Everything they did was what they thought was the coolest because they fan boy'd over what the popular progamers did at the time. So what they did, I tried to copy... Stuff like build orders and timing attacks.

This channel is updated faster. The commentary isn't really good tho. I'd rather watch the Korean livestream even though I don't understand Korean that much. There's just more excitement.

https://www.youtube.com/@StarCastTV

But if you can wait, it's better to watch it with Artosis and Tasteless' commentaries in AfreecaTV's channel. They usually upload it later but it's worth the wait.

Group C winners... Both underdogs won their first matches.

https://i.postimg.cc/Zn8G6Ngv/623-A1565-D979-4-ACA-B081-1-BAE5-E8-A36-E0.jpg

So we got two new faces getting into the Round of 16. Calm and Killer, both Zerg players and both looking good.

Quote from: tokeweed on August 17, 2023, 12:38:13 PM

Oh! That is OK I was just going to ask if you played the modded one as well, but surely modded is not for the tournament for sure, but for me, this is just my take on the Gundam modded Starcraft it is awesome but surely if you are a starcraft avid fan you would like your game to not be modded at all, this is just my take on the Modded game version,

For sure many have tried the move set and strategy of pro gamers on their own game, and sometimes you are probably proud that you have made the unthinkable and accomplished 1 of that gameplay,

Thank you for that link, but even though I want an updated version, it will surely do I think I will study those teams and the gameplay of those available players, this is still a great watch and review for sure,

Quote from: tokeweed on August 18, 2023, 12:02:37 PM

^ Yup and it helps if you play the game yourself and learn the build orders and stuff. I think you could now download the original SC/BW anthology for free. Not sure but akaik it is since Blizzard release StarCraft Remastered.

If you really want to get deep into it a bit more but you don't know where to ask questions about the game, TL.net is the go to forum. Some of the guys over there have been there for years... It's really impressive to have that kind of motivation.

https://tl.net/forum/?filter=broodwar

Actually, for a newbie to the game, I surely have some basic ideas on how the game works but I am not that well knowledgeable with some faction's resources and line requirements for a certain unit, most of the time not reading what to do led on the worst decision and scenario's but surely that was back then when I was just a student, my classmates were very busy playing it while I was just watching the game and don't really have any idea what is happening and I felt curious about it back then, all I learned back then was how to attack and who to attack, my classmates said that the different color-coded units are the enemies, but you can also put some allies in the game,

It was really fun maybe I will download the whole expansion in a free sharing site to play the game then when I am well verse with the old version maybe going into the Starcraft 2 is my next target, well thanks for the advice I really like this conversation it brings back memories of my past,

Quote from: tokeweed on August 18, 2023, 12:02:37 PM

Thought I had seen some one mention about this 25 year old game. And to hear they are having professional tournament based on it was pretty unbelievable to hear.
You can receive the whole anthology for free from blizzard? Although I thought they went defunct years ago.
They probably still have some sort of branch of the company still inoperation just under a different name.
Such as what happened to CD Projekt RED after cyberpunk and getting reassigned to another company.

Quote from: tokeweed on August 19, 2023, 01:01:46 PM

^ I was gonna give you another merit for saying that you wanted to learn more about the game but since you also said you were also interested in playing SC2, well... No merits for you. :D :D :D StarCraft 2 doesn't exist in my universe. Lol. ;D

I mean seriously, try learning the basic mechanics of SC1 and after having some decent skill playing it, go try SC2. You'll get what I'm saying. There's just no comparison.

:D I surely wanted to play both but because I surely don't know the basics of the 1st game I will 1st master the old game for sure before going into Starcraft 2 It is, well You are right in saying that I should go with the basic 1st before anything else that is and yes there is no good one but the 1st Starcraft game for sure, Sorry I was busy with something and can't visit this thread more often and I surely missed the games but I have watched the replay,

Quote from: tokeweed on August 22, 2023, 12:31:40 PM

... And Sharp did pull an upset vs Jaedong. I think Jaedong was lined at like 1.35 or something. I don't how the books lined him so deep vs a somewhat decent Terran player. Maybe 10 years ago, I'd agree with the line. But now? Pffft. That's highway robbery.

And owengtam09, here's are a couple of replays with the best commentary you'll ever find.

AfreecaTV StarLeague(ASL) S16 Ro.24 Group A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UBGRUr0F0I

AfreecaTV StarLeague(ASL) S16 Ro.24 Group B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ekHUN5gLYI

There's more coming as the tourney progresses. ;)

Thanks for this and watching it now and searching for the games but surely I still can not understand what they are doing because I was still working on studying the game for sure and they are using 7 maps in this tournament, but how many maps do the Starwars have? actually, I didn't count it but watching this video I was curious if they have more than that, I am not giving many important details for sure but It is an added bonus to try all of the maps for sure, actually I was interested when they are starting the game and mining crystals but building your 1st build was really exciting, and you know that both you and your opponent doesn't have much and scouting your opponent is not really the priority but I was shock that you can do this to navigate your opponent easily,

^ The best map for learning is a stock map in the game called The Lost Temple. It's one of the best maps for 1v1 games back in the day and was one of the favorite maps among pros. So yeah learn to play in that.

And the easiest race to play is Zerg. At least for me. Go search for a guide for Zerg build orders online. It's easy and when you get a hang of it, you could learn other more advanced stuff like which tech trees to go for in game. I'm telling you, SC/BW is the only game that got me hooked.

Anyway, here are a couple more vids from Tastosis.

AfreecaTV StarLeague(ASL) S16 Ro.24 Group C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYEfVHO4gm8

AfreecaTV StarLeague(ASL) S16 Ro.24 Group D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taPP871w6NM

Round of 16 next week! Rooting for the new guys, Calm and Killer to go next round.

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Quote from: tokeweed on August 30, 2023, 12:27:21 PM

Great Recommendation with the map it is kind of the Center Ring from Battle Realms if I am not mistaken, for sure I will learn in playing on that actually canceling all modifications and will play the original design, and for sure The Lost Temple is one of the maps that is easy to be remembered,

Actually, I like the design of the Protoss, They are a more advanced alien tech kind of design and it was crazy playing it for sure, While I am still really confused with the Zerg, but for sure will definitely try it out next time, searching for an advance tutorial on how to play the Zerg,

And nice game Group C's first game was Zerg VS vs. Protoss and watching it was really great I kind of liked learning the game at the same time while watching that game, it was really entertaining so thanks for the share,

Quote from: tokeweed on September 04, 2023, 09:04:49 AM

^ Try these strats and see what you like...

https://tl.net/forum/bw-strategy/436604-collection-of-strategy-threads

Those are written really well and emphizes the build order from start to finish for each strat and for each race. Enjoy. ;)

Anyway, the betting market for Round of 16 is up at Stake.

https://stake.com/sports/starcraft-1

Rooting for Calm to win his first match. He's somewhat a huge underdog, almost paying 4 to 1 for your money... Don't do as I do and don't do as I say. ;D

WOW! Thanks to these strategies I will surely look for some combo and surely the Zerg has the ability to rapidly increase the Zergling so much that you can surely do a Zergling rush, sure disrupt your opponent gathering and strategy I was having a ton of fun with the Zerg for now and Sorry was busy playing it on the laptop maybe I would build a PC so I can play it on my wide Screen I think this is a great game if we have a widescreen monitor ready for this all I need was a great build on a PC for sure,

Actually, because I was busy I didn't make a bet on the tournament and I didn't monitor the tournament on who had already won or who made progress with their wins,

Quote from: tokeweed on September 11, 2023, 12:30:48 PM

^ Lol. No need to 'build' a PC for a very old game. Any decent hardware would do. What you need to buy is a gaming mouse and a nice keyboard... It doesn't have to be one of those keyboards with special key caps. Most keyboards would do. But yeah, gaming mouse is a must. It just makes everything feel fast and accurate... Makes it easier to micro.

I'm watching Ro16 Group C now. No bets tho. I lost some money with Adesanaya being on top of all my parlays. Lol. I thought I was gonna have a decent night. :D :D :D

You will be surprised by the level of PC that I got and it is already broken so never mind about it, I was just borrowing a laptop so I am going to assemble my own so instead of getting a lower spec one I am thinking of building a PC that is high-end, and everyone surely loves a high-end PC right, well actually playing starcraft in this borrowed laptop but eventually, this one will be used Soon by our student for school purposed but the high-end that I will be building will be for gaming and work-related,

Well, back on the AfreecaTV StarCraft League Remastered Season 16 Tomorrow September 18, there will be a game for the tournament Rush (Terran) vs. Hero (Zerg) in this match Rush dominated Group B 2 - 0 while hero was 2nd place in Group C with 2 - 1 for sure it could be Rush that may win this match, but I can not say for sure as Zerg can immediately spawn Zerglings to destroy those tactics of Terran so this is an interesting match and could be apply on an actual game,

^ Yup.. Here's the brackets for quarters, semis and the finals. Quarter finals are Bo5 games, while the semis and the final are Bo7 games

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My picks from each of the match ups are Rush, Soulkey, Mini and Action. NFA but I might make a small bet on Rush, if I win that I drop everything on Soulkey tomorrow. ;D So I hope I win the first bet.

And it's nice to see Rollbit have a market for it now. So I guess I'll post that here instead of Stake's lines.

https://rollbit.com/sports?bt-path=%2Fstarcraft-112

Anyway, event starts in around 25 mins. Have fun and good luck to the one follower of this thread. :D

Korean Stream: http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1 (http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1)

English Stream: http://play.afreecatv.com/dth03119 (http://play.afreecatv.com/dth03119)

Nice! For sure you won today's game and the streaming was finished I missed the game for sure but surely Rush will go into the Semifinals, here is the update for the tournament chart,

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/18/6ys0P.png

For sure the game was really interesting even though I still haven't watched it yet, my mind was just flying on what had happened with the game how the Terran defeated the Zerg, and how Rush dominated the game against a Zerg player hero because I know that Zerg is pretty much a difficult match-up for the Terran I surely want to know what strategy did Rush do because Zerg players can be aggressive and greedy in attacking with a Zergling troops for sure this is what most Zerg's do but maybe Terran build a barracks early on with the Zerg's mining field, but a hunch, but maybe will wait for the video so I can surely watch it,

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/18/6yIcc.png

Quote from: tokeweed on September 20, 2023, 01:07:24 PM

^ The typical opening for a Terran player playing vs a Zerg player is to go double barracks at the start and pump out marines as fast as possible while teching up to get some medics and fire bats out there plus the stim pack and long range upgrades. It's also very important to get the scan add on for the command center.

Here's the vid of Rush vs Hero with Artosis and Tasteless at the commentary.

ASL 16 Quarter Final Match1 Rush vs herO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbs6PpnHmVM

Next vid will prolly be up in a couple of days. I won't spoil the results but you prolly already know who Rush's opponent is at the semis.

Thanks for the video I was surely learning but still not as good as the guys in the tournament for sure the technique and strategies you can not think that it is possible for an old game like Starcraft it was surely interesting for competitive starcraft, and that Typical Strategy with the Terran for sure was the Barracks start-up for sure after hearing this and seeing the fights of Rush and hero it was really a great fight for sure at least I got an idea on how to play Zerg now I also got an idea and strategy on how to play as Terran as well, so it was some knowledge regarding the start-up of the fight for sure it is surely an interesting strategy,

Looking at the tournament itself I see that Soulkey won against JyJ and it was an interesting game as well it was another Zerg vs. Terran game but for sure the next game I think the game today was Terran Against Protoss, and actually I also want to see the strategy for the Protoss as well, and it is Sharp against Mini this time,

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/24/Pw6Zm.png

This is the Bracket for the tournament AfreecaTV StarCraft League Season 16

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/24/PwP3W.png

^ Another way to learn a lot faster is to download saved game replays. Not sure where to download these days but they shouldn't be too hard to find. You guys are lucky there's replay feature. Before people had to scour the internet to find strategy guides, VOD's and find other people to talk about SC/BW. Now it's a lot easier.

Anyway here's the updated bracket with all of the quarter finals over and done with. I think Rush and Mini go through.. Eerrr or hopefully go through. I want a Mini vs Rush final. Lol. ;D

https://i.postimg.cc/L5CStn9v/B7-EF3974-CD2-A-4047-A283-DB5875646186.jpg

And the market for Rush vs Soulkey is up at Stake with both at dead evens. :/

https://stake.com/sports/starcraft-1/international-14/asl-season-16

I wonder how Mini and Effort's lines will look. I think they'll prolly give it around 1.50 - 1.60 for Mini.

The lines for Mini vs Effort is up at Stake with Effort as the slight favorite which is surprising imho. Mini is a tad better SC player.

Oh and as for Rush vs Soulkey, just a little tip. If you're betting on Rush there's a slightly better line at Rollbit. ;) Small difference with Stake so I don't think it could be considered a stale line. Small bet should be safe from getting cancelled.

Here are the rest of the vids in the quarter finals...

ASL S16 RO.8 Match2 SoulKey vs JyJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkwJ_OHJBzU

ASL S16 RO.8 Match3 Sharp vs Mini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szEuJuwWCAw

ASL S15 RO.8 Match4 effOrt vs Action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nqOJlWGXpI

Quote from: tokeweed on September 26, 2023, 12:32:34 PM

WOW! Thanks for telling me about the game replays for sure it will be helpful indeed, and nice one, I was really enjoying using the Zerg more but eventually switching to Terran at times but mostly using the Zerg I like how I aggressively attack the mines of other players with the Zerglings it was a fast pace fight but surely I want using Hydralis more with the Zerg for sure that is the most powerful unit in this race well because Hydralis can destroy both air and land unit and a swarm of Hydralis means you eventually won the game

And I totally missed the games for the Sharp vs Mini, and the EffOrt vs Action as well for sure Mini with the Protoss race has won against the Sharp's Terran race units, and with the EffOrt's Zerg race with Action's Zerg race sure EffOrt's using Zerg was quite unique and winning the game with a 3 - 0 score for sure I want to watch the Zerg VS Zerg fight if the video is available,

Semi-Finals are starting and it is between Rush vs Soulkey and Mini vs EffOrt for the date of October 4, and 5 the Semi-Finals will be a great watch for sure if I could guess who's going to face in the finals I think it will be Rush and the EffOrt just a wild guess on who's going to face in the finals on this season for sure this is just a guess but for sure I need to see their strategies for the games,

Quote from: tokeweed on October 04, 2023, 12:53:01 PM

^ Did you watch the semi final match vs Rush vs Soulkey? I'm not gonna spoil it to you if you haven't. But man! What a greeaaat match up between these two. Not one was giving up and had to do what they needed to do to win a match and get to the next match. It was really good.

And if I were you, I'd wait for the commnentaries by Artosis and Tasteless. It's really worth to wait for a couple of days. I will post it here once it's up... Man what a good match.

I hope the next match up with Mini and Effort tomorrow is just as good. I got Mini.

Nope, I haven't watched it yet, and Yup! I am waiting for the Commentaries so I can watch it in English, Thanks your providing the link for me for sure I am learning so much when it comes to StarCraft for sure and really enjoying it at the same time, actually it was great if you were working at something and really enjoying it at the same time that is pretty much awesome for sure

It is the latest video of Rush VS Soulkey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2n5vRey49w

Sure Soulkey is a beast on that map he was really well aware of the Maps, but surely Rush has closed the game it was not enough for Rush and it is great that many have predicted that the game will be a 3 - 4 win for soul key and it was really an accurate prediction for sure as the game ended in 3 - 4 win for Soulkey for sure, and the Maps has a large effect on the game as Rush is picking the 1st map then Soulkey's next and up to Set 7 picks it really was a great exchange but Soulkey manage to defeated the Terran of Rush with his Zerg for sure,

^ Watch this one with Artosis and Tasteless in the commentary booth. They're the original commentators of the show and they give the best English commentary in the ASL bar none.

[ENG] ASL Season16 Ro.4 Match1 Rush vs SoulKey (Tastosis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIALkFIzjHw

And here's the other semi final with Mini vs Effort. Nothing to spoil as it wasn't too exciting. Lol.

[ENG] ASL Season16 Ro.4 Match2 Mini vs effOrt (Tastosis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=608lhcWH52I

And sure man... I like getting stuff up I'm interested in and make bets at here in BCT. It's fun trying to get people into StarCraft betting or just get people to watch the matches. It's a really good game which the SC tourney scene should be bigger than how it is now tbh.

Early lines for the finals on October 15 are up at Stake. Mini at 1.80 and Soulkey at 1.90. Leaning Mini but after seeing what Soulkey did to Rush I don't know...

Quote from: tokeweed on October 07, 2023, 01:00:51 PM

You also brought me to try out the game as I was only watching my friends back then after school going in and renting a PC from the shop then just watching them play Starcraft of Warcraft back then I pretty much just had the idea of the game but the feel into playing it this is really my 1st time playing this, so Thank you I just didn't get the urge in playing the game because it was really old, but for sure Old games are gold, as the saying goes, for sure I was really wrong for not trying it out sooner and I am surely learning new Strategies while watching this videos you provided so thanks to that

While in the Tournament I was shocked to see Soulkey defeat Rush I almost thick that Rush could win against him because he got it 2 times in a row 1st but Soulkey in his later games is not really pressured at all but keeps on getting into it more confident and more stronger for sure, and so we will be seeing a finals for Mini VS Soulkey

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/08/Rd7p1.png

Quote from: tokeweed on October 08, 2023, 08:57:17 PM

^ Wait til you play the game 1v1 vs someone irl or online. There's just nothing like SC when you get a bit decent in playing it enougn to play online. I tried some games after SC back in the day and I couldn't say that they gave me the same rush as SC did.

And yup, not really sure what happened with Rush except that when he was rushed early by Soulkey, he wasn't able to hold the game enough to give him time to make enough units vs Soulkey's next wave of attacks. Would've loved a TvP final with Rush and Mini.

For sure that would be a great game if I could compete with other players online, but for now, I am still familiarizing myself with the unit ability and what to build with the Zerg to make the offense faster and the defense smoother for sure, but I am surely going there, and by the way I have downloaded Broodwars version what is the difference with the Expansion and the remastered version is there a additional map or units with those patches? or they don't have any difference with the Broodwars version, because I will likely just go on with the Broodwars version any suggestions about this?

Sure If there were another rematch between Rush and Soulkey I really think that Rush really needs time to develop a plan to defeat Soulkey for sure but if there likely another game for the two may be a conclusion but the match was pretty close, but for sure I am now excited for the Mini VS Soulkey,

^ I'm not sure if the patches are updated in the original version of SC/BW but I'm sure that there are no differences between the original and remastered except for the graphics. And if ever the patches in the original are not up to date, there are only minor differences. I don't even think they changed anything much like spell damage, attack damage and the like. That's usually what the devs change to make the game more balanced.

As for installing the game in the original, always install the expansion aka Broodwar. No one plays vanilla Starcraft since the expansion came out. It's always with Broodwar on. Do the same with remastered.

Quote from: tokeweed on October 08, 2023, 08:57:17 PM

^ Wait til you play the game 1v1 vs someone irl or online. There's just nothing like SC when you get a bit decent in playing it enougn to play online.

I'd say there is - SC2.

I haven't followed the SC1 scene since I finished high school. Back in the day we'd play on LAN with friends and my first ever PvP experience was playing on a 2 PC LAN setup with a friend.
We had to move the computer from one house to the other and then another friend saw us playing and wanted to join, so we had to carry another computer. It wasn't easy since we all had CRT monitors and these things were bulky.

I didn't know the scene was still active. Last time I heard about it the news said Korean TV is no longer going to transmit it and Artosis came back to the US because RTS popularity was declining fast and being taken over by MOBA.

SC is probably the most difficult online game to play on a competitive level. You have to be a total no life with very fast hands to be good in this game.

Quote from: tokeweed on October 09, 2023, 01:05:48 PM

I surely think that I have downloaded the Broodwars Expansion and it is good for sure but yeah playing the game for almost a week now if I am not mistaken, I lost many Computer fights versus Terran, and actually, I am still training with the Zerg Colony and still Learning some things actually I think I got the portable installation of the game here are the Screen Shots of the Starcraft game that I have downloaded,

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/09/RnKYo.png

Actually, I am really challenged with this game, and more than what I know in Battle Realms this is unique and has a lot of different learning for sure because I thought just because I have played Battle Realms before I would eventually master this game but there was a very difficult factor that wasn't on the Battle Realms game

Quote from: darkangel11 on October 09, 2023, 01:36:57 PM

Welcome darkangel11, actually, I was also shocked like you that the old Starcraft game was still alive and getting a tournament of its own it was really a great game if it is still alive and has a community like this that still Supports it even though there are now a Starcraft 2 available for them to be played but the Starcraft 1 is still this alive and right now I think the Final game for the Tournament AfreecaTV StarCraft League Remastered Season 16 will be October 15, 2023 - 14:00 PHT Soulkey VS Mini,

Quote from: darkangel11 on October 09, 2023, 01:36:57 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 08, 2023, 08:57:17 PM

^ Wait til you play the game 1v1 vs someone irl or online. There's just nothing like SC when you get a bit decent in playing it enougn to play online.

SC2? I'd say nope if you have played a lot of SC/BW. Dunno man but SC2 just doesn't compare with the original in terms of game play, game mechanics, meta and the psychological aspect of going 1v1 with somebody. And a lot of the game mechanics stuff that SC/BW has was dumbed down in SC2. Any n00b could play SC2. SC/BW needs a decent degree of skill to play properly. That's just imho.

Quote from: owengtam09 on October 09, 2023, 08:32:14 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on October 09, 2023, 01:05:48 PM

Does your copy include the cut scenes for the campaigns? Play the campaigns! Blizzard did a really good job with those cut scenes.

Quote from: tokeweed on October 10, 2023, 12:26:22 PM

Does your copy include the cut scenes for the campaigns? Play the campaigns! Blizzard did a really good job with those cut scenes.

It surely has Cut Scenes so it is very OK Actually, the Campaigns are pretty much hard for me but I am slowly keeping up with it it was really hard to play for sure reading all unit skills is great and it is really complex because it is also hard to defend on air units for sure but even though I keep on losing the game I am still enjoying it, well then I like about the Unique units of the Zerg was the Queen it was really a superior in the Air and unique ability of infestation where the Queen injects parasites to organic enemies and take control of opponents Command Center that is why I really like this one,

For sure we still have 2 days to witness the Starcraft tournament the game between Soulkey against Mini for sure will definitely be one epic match and just like the other game I really want to see it, I am really curious about what they are doing in the beginning of the game, so for sure I really want to watch all of it with a good announcer,

Quote from: tokeweed on October 13, 2023, 12:34:57 PM

^ You could use cheat codes for single player mode and the campaigns. ;) You'll just be playing it for the cut scenes anyway and to know the back story. They're pretty good... Learning to the strats and learning how to play well will only be acheived by playing lots of hours in multi player mode.

But yeah.. And for the final match of ASL 16, it's a coin flip. Mini is lined at 1.90 and Soulkey is at 1.80. I lean mini but seeing how Soulkey played on through and got the win vs Rush from behind, dunno... :/

There are cheat codes for this game? For real I didn't know about it my friends were playing this and for sure they didn't use cheats or they never told me about these things but if I had known about these things maybe I would been playing it for sure just because I love cheats,

I have searched for the cheat codes but how can I use them, I am searching the settings and I can not see some cheats in it, sorry I surely don't know about these things for sure as I have said this is the 1st time for me playing Starcraft well officially playing it, just watching my friends played this, for sure I want to try this cheats on the game,

So here is my bet for the last match for the AfreecaTV StarCraft League Remastered Season 16 and my bet is for Soulkey I have seen him get back from a 2-win streak against his opponent for sure this is the last game for this tournament and for sure it is my 1st time seeing the bookies on stake,

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Quote from: tokeweed on October 15, 2023, 12:08:09 PM

^ Lol. Yup there are cheat codes but just for single player mode... It's easy find them online. ;D So yeah, it makes it easier to play through the campaign if all you wanna do is watch the cut scenes and know the back story.

Anyway did you watch the final match? It was today around 2:00pm KST. I won't spoil the details but there isn't really anything to spoil. :D I won't tell you the winner tho unless you want me to.

I'll give my thoughts when you're done watching it.

Thanks to this I will now know the story of each race and for sure this will be quick, I have managed to find the cheats and how to activate them inside the game it was a quick Google search as you have mentioned thanks to that,

Actually, I still haven't watched the latest game yet waiting for the English so I can understand, if you have a link it will be easy for me but I have bet on this game and it was really Soulkey winning this game for sure he was really dominant in this game Soulkey winning 3 games then Mini on the 4th game retaliates but Soulkey managed to notice what Mini was plotting somehow and winning in the final game, well I haven't watched the game yet, but see the game results but surely I likely want to see the game for sure as Soulkey was really dominant,

Here is my winning bet

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^ Ah... So you already know the results. I could tell you my thougnt process now on why Soulkey was actually the way better pick than Mini and I should've seen it after watching the quarter finals and the semi finals.

I realized that when faced with adversity, Soulkey tends to rise on the occassion and overcome the challenges of going against a tough opponent. He was 3 - 2 vs JyJ in a tough out and 4 - 3 vs Rush in another really touch turn out but won both. We know what kind of player he is and he showed his desire to win.

With Mini we don't really know his mindset coming into the finals. He breezed through Sharp at the quarters with 3 - 1 and went 4 - 0 in a very easy match vs Effort. So coming into the finals we have no idea how he'll react when faced with adversity... But unfortunately I found out when he was down 0 - 3. :D

Anyway congrats on the win. Til next time... ASL 17 will be in a couple of months.

Quote from: tokeweed on October 16, 2023, 12:28:17 PM

Actually watching his previous fights and the results of his previous games, most of them were a comeback from Soulkey and I surely noticed it but my Speculation was combined or the piece of the puzzle was solved when you explained it here so thanks for it, it was really late to make a sudden bet on him because I was new to the scene for the starcraft tournament and I don't have any idea about most of the players

But when you explained to me what kind of players most of them are and watched their matches I sure got an idea after this event I am now excited for the next event to happen, and for sure looking forward to Soulkey again,

Well I have played the beginning of the Starcraft campaign but I haven't finished it yet, as I was really busy with something but will eventually return to the saved files sure to finish my game and there are cut scenes so I think I am good and thank you for this and looking forward for the afreecatv starcraft league season 17 for sure,

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