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In an interview on the Joe Rogan show, Terence Crawford expressed his desire to become a three-time undisputed champion and revealed his plan to move across three weight divisions to potentially face the victor of the Canelo vs Charlo bout. If this scenario indeed unfolds, I'm curious to know whom you're supporting to win. Please feel free to share your insights on this matter.


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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.

And addition to that, it's too early to speculate, I might as well then wish for Charlo to win against Canelo if he is going to fight Crawford next.
But then again, if Canelo wins, this is going to be a big jump for Crawford at 168 lbs, and as you have said, he needs to fine tune his body at this extra weight as I don't believed that he is walking about that weight even off season, 154 lbs seems to be right though for Crawford.
And even if Charlo losses then he goes back to 154 lbs and governing bodies give him back his belt, then I will rather see that fight as they have a beef already.

He mentioned that Canelo's height is only 5′ 8″, which means he isn't exceptionally tall. Similarly, Crawford is also 5′ 8″. Considering this, there's potential for a compelling matchup between the two if Crawford undergoes effective training to develop his physique. While financial gain is undoubtedly a top priority for renowned boxers nowadays, let's admit it, we also have a strong desire to witness a showdown between Canelo and Crawford before either of them considers retiring.

Both contenders have achieved the status of undisputed champions, guaranteeing another highly anticipated and sold-out fight. It's quite possible that this clash could even surpass the magnitude of Crawford's match against Spence in terms of attention and excitement.

Being small in boxing isn't about height but rather it's the weight does matter.

Currently, Crawford is too small for Canelo and I called this a mismatch. I agree, if that fight between Canelo and Crawford happened instead 2 years from now, Crawford might already catch up with Canelo with weight. I don't know what's the reason for Crawford changing his mind as before he ruled out fighting at over 154 lbs as he knows it's risky for him.

Anyways, the fight is just a speculation and we don't know what will happen next. What if Jermell won instead? There will be a change right away in the supposed roadmap of these boxers. For now, after being an undisputed champion, Crawford should think twice before risking another fight on his career.

I think that's why we are here in this very discussion in the first place, to discuss and speculate who would be the victor between the mentioned boxers.

In line with that, I think Crawford should make his debut at 154 first while Charlo and Canelo are still busy for their preparation before testing each other and to test if his body can still withstand any additional weights because jumping right away from 147 to 168 is quite a long-haul flight where it will leave Crawford so tired and slow.

About your last phrase, Charlo is no longer the undisputed champion at 154 anymore because in the same day of his fight against Canelo, he will be stripped of his WBO belt and Tim Tszyu will have that instead of his current belt, the interim champion.

He needs to prove himself and have some warm-up fight first before fighting these big shots in their weight division because he needs to be compatible first at that weight but that only goes for common boxers because as for Crawford, he can just simply increase his weight and learn more about controlling his punches and gain some speed in the training and he is good to fight either of this two. I remember Manny Pacquiao when he fought Antonio Margarito, he didn't need some warm-up fight and he just simply and successfully beat the big guy in his comfortable weight zone.

I remember that he mention that he will change weight class gradually until he reach the division which he can fight Canelo comfortably. This is same process of Pacman when he dominates multiple divisions. Crawford is strong on his division but we know that there's a lot of boxer that destroy their career for aiming higher division while their body is not designed for that specific weight.

Crawford counter is his main weapon. I think he will problem on higher division if his punches doesn't big guys while he is hurt by the power of boxer like Canelo.

I don't want to jump to conclusions either, as anything can happen. Just like when Pacman moved up in weight and was doubted, he ended up dominating. So, in this fight, the same unpredictability applies. Based on interviews, Crawford appears very confident that he can win. What's interesting is that people's speculations are evenly split. It's understandable since both fighters are great and still in their prime. Their upcoming match in the ring is sure to be a fireworks show.

The most exciting aspect is that both fighters stand to earn an immense amount of money, given that this fight is expected to be a blockbuster.

I guess he can do that in due time, but for the meantime, he have to face his current situation where he needs to get accustomed at 154 first because that is his first plan after unifying all the belts at 147 pounds, it was just changed a little bit after Charlo made his own move towards Canelo.
I know he can still dominate that weight class but it's much too soon for him to make that climb because aside from that fact that it's risky, that road is still relatively unknown for him.

It's going to be a huge challenge for him, but he is eager to prove his greatness. So, let's give him a chance. Canelo is a strong boxer; he once moved up after winning the undisputed championship, but he lost to Bivol. This was probably because he wasn't able to carry his power and speed. The same thing could happen to Crawford. However, that's the downside. But we never know what's going to happen. One thing is sure: this fight is going to attract the interest of the boxing community.

Well, Canelo are most likely going to win against Charlo, but who knows - so I'm still taking the scenario of Canelo vs Crawford lol.
The weight differences are the thing that could hold up this fight to happen though. Canelo needs to come down and Terrence needs to come up a huge weight, both are risky for them. It could be draining for Canelo and something for Crawford that would affect his body conditioning and performance. Though nothing is impossible if they agree at a catch weight just because the fans are craving for it, then I guess a massive money involvement could make things possible.

Canelo stresses that he can't no longer make weight below 168 lbs, so it's going to be in the ball on Crawford to go up in weight in 3 weight classes if he wanted to have a fight with Canelo.

And it was really Crawford who are going to test himself here, to be as great as Pacquiao. And I heard one boxing analyst says that if Crawford goes up and fight Canelo and beat him, he will be greater than Floyd but it is up for debate.

It's too early for this, for all, we know the fight turns out to be close or draw, and because of this there could be a rematch, and besides Spence triggers the rematch clause so Terrence should first commit to his rematch against Spence, Spence is serious to get back against Crawford and he promises to be a better fighter,  maybe they are going to do it in the higher division, but Crawford cannot just turn his back to the rematch because it's stipulated on the contract.

A Crawford - Canelo fight is a legacy fight for both fighters but they need to settle their responsibility on the contracts they signed, Crawford will have to deal with Spence first to win again then his promotion can have a talk with Canelo's promotion for a deal, this could happen in the middle of next year, once these two fighters hurdle their respective opponents they will have a busy year ahead.

Crawford might be willing to take that risk and move up just to face Canelo. According to him, Canelo will likely beat Charlo, as Canelo is simply on a different level. So, he underestimates Charlo and considers himself a worthy opponent for Canelo. If Crawford is looking to add more achievements to his career, he would want to become undisputed once again by defeating Canelo. Based on records, there hasn't been a boxer who has beaten Canelo in his favored weight class.

Wait, why does he have to deal with Spence again? Was there a rematch clause in their fight? I'm just curious because I haven't been reading credible sources stating that a rematch is going to happen. Well, if you were to ask me, even if there's a rematch clause, I suggest that Spence should not activate it, as he looked like an amateur during their big fight.

I'm more inclined that Crawford indeed have more chances against Canelo compared to Charlo against the latter, well it's doesn't mean that I underestimate Charlo but it's just hard not to agree with Crawford here when in-fact it is more clearer and evident that he got more skills to put up against Canelo. By the way, he's also right that Charlo is more likely to lose rather than the other way around mainly in this scenario that Canelo is not yet on the sunset of his career.

The possible one is the Crawford - Canelo than the Crawford - Charlo fight, Canelo is still at the peak of his career and Charlo is no Bivol to impose his will against Canelo, he is not good with counterpunches just like what Mayweather and Bivol did to Canelo, so it's possible that next year we'll have Crawford - Canelo.

Everything depends on the two guys who want to make it happen, Canelo is a free agent he can deal with all promotions and Crawford is not getting younger he needs more money fight and legacy fight and the Canelo fight is much bigger than the Spence fight.

There will be more speculations about this fight after Canelo beat Charlo.

I've seen the news about the Crawford vs Canelo challenge, it looks like Crawford is very ambitious to beat Canelo and box, but I often watch boxing Crawford or Canelo are both really good bettors, but I often see their opponents talk a lot of nonsense and ambition, will end up losing.

I've read some of the comments from Crawford on social media towards Canelo.
For example:


And many other words spoken by Crawford to challenge Canelo, I think Crawford underestimated Canelo.

I have a hunch for Crawford can't jump 3 classes, he will be eliminated in the ring for the fight between Crawford vs Canelo.

I can't blame him for being gutsy and having that much confident because he is already a 2x undisputed champion now which makes him think even more that he can still add more to that record to make it more unbreakable. But yes, jumping towards three weight classes is a different discussion and Crawford haven't even know what it's like to fight at 154, what more if he will got 168 directly where he's more likely vulnerable against a guy like Canelo who's been around that weight class and dominating it for a couple of years now.

What Crawford is doing right now is trying to get under Canelo's skin to make him agree with a fight with him while also selling it to the people to make a hype.

Crawford is willing to fight Canelo at 168, and there's no reason for Canelo to say no if he's the current champion. So, although these are just rumors for now, Crawford has already shown his interest. If he's true to his words, this fight shouldn't be hard to materialize. Perhaps for Crawford, it needs a long preparation as he's going to move up 3 weight divisions. Therefore, it's likely this significant event will happen next year.

Jumping from 147 to 168 just to fight the winner of Canelo-Charlo doesn't make sense to me. Why is he chasing that so badly? He doesn't need that for his legacy to be honest. He can have all the excuses when he loses but I hope Crawford's team talk some sense to him. At least fight someone at 160 first before challenging 168.

He said that during an interview; I don't think he is just messing with us. Canelo already said that he would only fight at 168, so it will force Crawford to move up because he thinks he could beat Canelo and become an undisputed champion again. In short, he wants to make history again. As a fan, I understand why he has to take that risky journey.

Yes, Crawford wanted to show greatness and become legendary. And with his biggest win against Spence, I will not be surprised if he wanted to go up in weight and fight Canelo.
But as what we have been discussing, it could be dangerous for him to go up 2 weight classes and he could be in a situation wherein he thought that he can beat Canelo and challenging him in his best weight class. But it could be a rude awakening if the suddenly taste the power of a natural bigger guy than him and the undisputed champion at 168 lbs.

Click bait no way he jumps up that high quickly.  Bud would need to get acclimated in that weight class before he starts taking on the top dogs there.  I love buds game and lay in on him almost every fight but I wouldn't bet on him to win that one.  Think this is for publicity.

Crawford is still undefeated he has an impeccable offense and defense and no one comes close to dominating his game he has a claim to greatness as long as nobody beat him yet and he is still a champion, he can be considered this generation pound for pound great, Canelo is still great but he was exposed by Bivol so why not a fighter like Crawford exposing him again.

If ever they meet Crawford for me will have a slight advantage and I'm definitely voting for these two great boxers to meet in the ring.

They have to do it, someone's greatness has to be taken down and someone's greatness has to shine.

We might want to note that Canelo is younger than Crawford. Canelo is almost 3 years his junior. If this dream fight happens two years from now, Canelo is indeed approaching the twilight of his career. Crawford, on the other hand, is already approaching 40. Age is probably one of the reasons why Spence was running away and delaying his fight against Crawford. That's an off-topic opinion, though.

It would be an amazing moment in boxing's history if this fight takes place, especially if the two remain on a winning streak when the match happens. Crawford will, however, prove his worth in 154 first. If he proves to be effective and natural in this weight, and wins fights, then he could allow his body to continue gaining weight and reach 168. But he shouldn't be confronting Canelo right away. It would be the same process. If he proves that he can handle the weight naturally, without compromising his movements, quick responses, and so on, then he could face Canelo.

As to their physical stats, they're pretty much the same. Crawford has, of course, a longer reach though.

Canelo struggled against Mayweather, who is a good defender and quicker as well. Probably, Crawford sees the weaknesses of Canelo, as although he has power, he can be outboxed, as was evident in the fight against Bivol. The match might be even in the eyes of the fans. Although Crawford is not fighting in his comfortable weight, given his achievements, his undefeated record, and the hype generated when he beat Spence in a one-sided beatdown, all these factors will come into play.

For now, Canelo still has business to take care of. It might be a bit early to discuss, but at least we can have an open discussion about the possibility of this fight happening. I'm sure both camps are eager to make this happen, as it could be the biggest payday for both fighters. Who knows, they might even surpass the PPV revenue generated by Mayweather in his fights.

As fans, it would really satisfy us to see the best fighters in the ring, with no excuses or dodging. They will prove who is the best.

To be fair with Canelo, he as sort of a rookie that time and Mayweather was at his prime that's why Canelo really looks amateurish agains the defensive Floyd that he can't hit him with power punches.

We will see, yes he has Charlo up on his plate, but everyone is giving Charlo a slim chance to beat Canelo Alvarez. And once Alvarez won, we will see if he is willing to fight Crawford or will PBC have him fight another boxer like Benavidez or even Jermall Charlo, the original Charlo that he should have fight.

My bad, I didn't even bother to research their ages but still Crawford is still small for Canelo if ever the fight happens this year or next because I have not seen a fighter jumping three weight classes then defeating the champion, not even Manny Pacquaio so I think Crawford will fight at least 3 fights before he can face Canelo competitively.

And probably that is the reason why Crawford wanted to do this, no one has down it before, not even the old school boxers and not even the last legendary boxers we have jumping in 8 different weight class in Manny Pacquiao.

I think Crawford and Canelo is almost of the same height though, but it could be the different in muscle and bone destiny and obviously Canelo has the advantage because he is the natural super middleweight boxer.

Couldn't blame Canelo because being a great boxer is surely a benefit and it's a reason why money is coming for him instead of chasing for it, just like this one, Charlo targeting Canelo because they know that it will be a big fight with a big money waiting and there's Crawford as well who might take a big leap over 3 weight classes just to face Canelo in one same ring. Both gentlemen want each of their names on their record and may the best man win because there is no doubt that all of them are strong but it's just that Canelo will have the upper hand.

That wasn't because canelo didn't have enough experience.  Floyd embarrassed everyone.  Hate him or love him he was one of the best boxers of all time.  And don't give me he was a defensive see boxer and was boring at times.  That was by design, boxing is a stretch sport and Floyd used this to his advantage.  Dude always ended the fight without looking like he got touched.

The warm up match itself define the best one among this two players.They can conduct three warm up matches to find best of three.The master move was done by the Crawford to increase the weight and increasing the weight will be easier one compared to decreasing the weight.The speed of the punches was most important on in the boxing,the speed of punches will increase only on the practice.Crawford doing the practice of the punches along with the increasing the weight,Charlo should also look into the speed of the punches per minutes or else game will be one side.

It could be he is looking for publicity but there's also the fact that despite being one of the best fighters of his generation, Crawford has not had the type of paydays that Floyd, Canelo, or Pacquiao have had. He doesn't have the personality to be that kind of draw. After the success of his fight with Spence he is looking for another big payday and to achieve that he is going to have to take some risks.

While I agree that Canelo was defeated fairly and squarely and Floyd embarrassed him and everyone else, I would never agree that he's one of the best boxers of all time. Props to him for winning all of his professional fights and for ending many of his fights as if he hadn't been touched, but that's not enough for me to put him on the pedestal of the best boxers of all time. He's not even close to the likes of Julio Cesar Chavez.

My personal opinion of the sport of boxing is that it isn't just about winning. I put weight on it being a combat sport. I know that defense is part of any fighting sport, but hurting the opponent is probably the main goal in boxing. For me, winning and winning in an explosive fashion is what makes a boxer a great boxer. Respect to him, of course, for being undefeated, but the way he fights doesn't make him one of the greatest of all time.

Canelo's style could not beat Floyd's, even when both of them were in their prime. Personally, I believe the only boxer who gave Floyd problems and could have beaten him, if not for biased judges, was Maidana. He frustrated Floyd with his style, as his punches came from unusual angles, and Floyd's defense was less effective during that time. But anyway, that's in the past already. Floyd remained unbeaten and retired, still being known for his defensive approach, which some found boring.

I might agree with you on that point, as there were boxers who we believed could defeat Floyd Mayweather, particularly Pacquiao, yet Floyd managed to make him appear amateurish. Floyd possesses a unique talent that enables him to dominate his opponents not necessarily by knocking them out, but by outscoring them. His slick style and high boxing IQ are truly remarkable.

If we delve into his fight history (https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/floyd-mayweather-betting-odds), we can observe that bookmakers consistently favored him in all of his fights. Only De La Hoya was able to provide him with a tougher challenge, resulting in a split decision.

We will still have to find it though, I mean obviously they are in the different era if we talk about Crawford vs Floyd. But for sure this will be a great fight prime for prime. As of those who are close to beat Floyd, yeah, I do agree Marcos Maidana almost did it and maybe he pulled it off and in the rematch, it was a totally different fight and Floyd won clearly.

Another boxer is Sugar Shane Mosley, he rock Floyd with a right hand and it was the first time that we saw Floyd holding because he felt the power and almost goes down. So for me, Floyd doesn't have a good chin, except that no one really can touch him because of his reflex and good defense.

He was fortunate that Shane Mosley wasn't in his prime at that time. Floyd still managed to win that fight via unanimous decision as he was in control throughout. While Shane Mosley was able to connect with his solid punches against Mayweather, he didn't perform well against Pacman. Different opponents often lead to different outcomes due to the styles that make the fight.

However, there's no debate about who the better fighter is between Canelo and Mayweather, as they have already fought, and Mayweather won convincingly. Fans of Canelo shouldn't make excuses; they have to accept the defeat.

It's not click back though, there were interviews of Crawford himself saying that he wanted to fight the winner here and become undisputed in 3 weight class. He has been undisputed at 140 lbs, and recently at 147 lbs. So if he can add 168 lbs to his belt, then that is 3x undisputed and I don't think it was ever done before.

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And to think that he has been calling out Spence for many years and chasing him to become undisputed, not sure if this is for publicity or what because he has done it and Spence being a 3 belt holder at 147 lbs and then looking amateurish? There is no publicity whatsoever for Crawford here, just saying.

That's quite possible because two of the big names in the industry will soon face each other in a boxing fight but I just have one question though, is Canelo Alvarez interested in this fight as well or at least considering for it? I know he's quite busy as of the moment because Charlo isn't someone who is easy to defeat but we should know as well to see the likelihood if this fight even if it's still too early to discuss.

The only response of Canelo is that he can't go down in weight anymore, so obviously no more catchweights for him if ever he will fight Crawford because he knows that Crawford is at 147 lbs.
But the good thing is that Crawford is willing to go up at 168 lbs, so there is no catch weight for Canelo. One thing that Canelo says though is that if he ever beat Crawford, will he get the recognition? Or will his critics says that he just beat a 147 lbs fighter here.
So there's a lot on this fight for Canelo, his legacy and on Crawford, to be one of the greatest for jumping 3 weight class because as we have said, no one ever did that before.

In my personal opinion, I would not dare to judge a Canelo or a Crawford because they are older than him, let's remember what he did to Spence, that he raises the weight that he has to carry to fight Canelo is something that I see as an act of improvement, whenever a boxer goes up in rank, for me he is worthy of praise, also with Crawford's rhythm that he has is quite good, Crawford is in shape, after the fight he had against Spence it was seen that he did not He gave his 100%, but he reached about 60-70%, I didn't see him, he hardly even sweated, so this is something that suggests that Crawford's level has grown a lot and this is due to his great training, when a boxer is He has prepared so much, it is obvious that he will win his fight, in fact fights are won in training, that is where we realize who is the best, that is why when there is a fight, I like to know all the indicators of his preparation to see how much it was and how complex it was if they provided it, if the other boxer is pure bla bla bla like the case of Spence, well those things happen, the surprises that boxing gives.

In the case of Crwafrod and Canelo, I could say something, Canelo manages that category very well, and it is known that things with him are quite difficult because Canelo is a boxer who likes to talk a lot and be on social networks and talk more , so these things are what the boxer can monopolize people, I also know that the Mexican has a weakness with his hand, no matter how much they have operated on it, the hand does not remain 100%, that is an apparent debidlaid, that is, not He can give such hard blows because obviously it's going to hurt a lot, and even if he doesn't show it, he'll take care of himself, this is something Crawford knows, also with all the time he has for it to happen, he will prepare himself in much more detail, now If the fight is overtaken, I could say that Canelo has a good advantage, it's all a matter of how they paint it.

Terence Crawford Predicts Canelo-Charlo After Saying He Wants The Winner

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Since Crawford is a guy who is quite reserved and at least speaks with a tone of respect, for him he predicts that Canelo can win, however he says that it will be a good fight, so for him Cnaelo wins, but there may be no surprises, As I said before, a boxer who fights is when he decides to do things very well and train very intensely, the more work he has in his training, the better, otherwise I don't think things can work out for him, Canelo's training He is very good, I have always said that the Mexican has his flow and that is something that makes a very good sense, however in boxing anything can happen, nothing is certain.

At this moment we can all make very big speculations, but if Charlo wins? how are we going to stay? many speechless, and others will win their good sums of money and with good reason, that's why I say if in any sport the most impossible things happen, why not in boxing?

If Charlo wins then no changes for what Crawford desires, he will face instead the winner and proceed to his own timeline.

But technically speaking, although everything is possible to happen including an upset win by Charlo, I don't see any advantages he can use against the prime Canelo. I remember when Bivol was facing Canelo, only a few believed that the former would win but the result didn't say the same. I can't apply that same scenario to Charlo facing Canelo.

Anyway, let's wait for the winner of the Canelo-Charlo bout and speculate everything from there.

Exactly, that's why Crawford is very wise to call the winner of this fight. If Charlo wins then he is also undisputed at 154 lbs and so Crawford can fight him as well and for me this is the fight that I want or be interested of.
Because this two has some beef going on, Crawford shouting at Charlo during Crawford's fight with Spence. And we all know that Charlo rooted for his training buddy in Spence but was destroyed by Crawford. So either winner will be a good matchup for Crawford.

Yes, he does have a point because Charlo's chances are still a chance even if it's just slim. But Canelo is still Canelo, he might not be that bad, but I surely believe that he can still give a good fight and defend his belt successfully from a boxer who have jumped across weight classes just to face him. And yes, either way, Crawford will stick to what he stands and will likely face the winner of this fight.

Just to add though, I still don't think that Charlo can make a difference in a division that Canelo owned for years now. He might win some rounds but that's it, he's not getting any luckier than that. No offense.

It will still be Canelo dominating this fight, Although he doesn't look good in his last fight as everyone expecting him to score a knockout victory. We've always talk about Crawford jumping 3 weight class and try to fight Canelo. But we also forget that Jermell is the champion at 154 lbs and so he is already jumping two weight class to face Canelo here. So that is already a good measuring stick to see if someone that really jump that high and face the champion and win (although is chances are very slim as we have thought). But still though, respect for Charlo for having that balls to challenge and fight Alvarez at his best weight class and if I'm not mistaken, he hasn't been defeated yeat at super Middleweight. His defeat to Bivol is him climbing at 175 lbs.

The nearest boxer who gave Canelo the most hardships and struggles at 168 is none other than Golovkin, I mean Canelo sure do have the advantages required to be the winner but their fight always go to decision and even sparks some critics because some of their fights wasn't that clear that Canelo have won and he just cannot break Golovkin's jaw.

But for Charlo, it will be a mystery if he can also give that same hardships towards Canelo like GGG has done to the latter. Anyway, let's see it soon.

Both the players Charlo and Crawford had their equal opportunities to win the game.The players should try equal try to win the game.The game between Bivol and Canelo itself explain the exact situation now.The crowd opinion is Canelo,but the same was changed at the end.Bivol win the game with the support of the judges.I hope same will not happen now to Canelo.Even now the crowd opinion will be Canelo compared to the Crawford.When you compared the support of 100 people in the community,the seventy people will support Canelo.

At that time, it was so hard to support and bet against Canelo Alvarez because honestly, we've certainly known him far more compared to Dmitry Bivol who is just a champion on our eyes but wasn't really a threat because he doesn't have someone strong in his record that he already defeated. And so, at that time, we did expected that Canelo can defeat Bivol because that wasn't Canelo's first fight at 175 either as he already managed to defeat a boxer way back named Kovalev.

But then, we thought it wrong because Bivol proved to us that he's definitely a different boxer than Kovalev and can defend his belt successfully unlike the latter. In-fact at that time when he fought Canelo, Bivol was under heavy pressure because it was also the beginning of Russia-Ukraine war.

Canelo certainly holds several advantages, but it appears that his power might not be sufficient to overcome Bivol, who seems quite established in his current weight class. Similarly, if Crawford were to move up three weight divisions to face Canelo, many might predict a loss for him. However, boxing is renowned for its unpredictability, and surprises are always possible. It's worth noting that Crawford has already achieved significant accomplishments in his career, so he might not feel the need to prove anything further. Ultimately, the outcome of such matches remains uncertain, so let's see if Crawford would make history again.

It's that if Charlo does Bivol's thing to more than one he will make him lose, because everyone believes in the Mexican, plus Charlo is a boxer who has grown up and seeing how he fights has good technique, I like how he defends himself when they try attack him a lot, because he has arms that he uses as columns, besides that his strength makes it not even stick to his face, he has a lot of strength in men and arms, for me they have the characteristics to win, of course I do not detract from a Canelo who always He is training and doing good things, he is a great boy, but I think that this time, so that he does not get a surprise, he should train at a higher level, because Bivol himself does not want to fight him, and the Russian has not lost any of his level, he has been in excellent shape and wants to win more belts, Canelo's clear mistake in his fights has been to trust himself, a boxer when he trusts in a heavy fight because his body feels that he has already given everything, he cannot give more because he decompensates and that goes into training, obviously his training against Bivol was at a lower level, that's why Bivol beat him and he did it forcefully, so much so that the boxer was somewhat surprised, however now with Charlo he shouldn't to get rid of it, Charlo is somewhat quiet for me, that's like a saying they say where I live: "God free me from the calm waters, I will free myself from the rough ones"

Jermell Charlo's Biggest Weapon (According to Canelo Alvarez)

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Well, Canelo has studied his opponent very well, this is very good, because seeing his fights, and seeing his fighting style can help you see how his reaction when the boxer is in trouble, how he reacts when he is in a situation difficult, and although they are both at the same weight, category, I would dare to say that Charlo has enormous strength, each blow from him must hurt a lot if he manages to land that is what Canelo must take care of, because personally this boxer has a lot that gives and not everyone can do well from the fights without receiving some punishment, well unless it is a Crawford when he faced Spence, who looked fresher than a lettuce, but that was because of the degree of training so intense that Crawford had, which I think many boxers were taught to see how he was, I think Canelo Should be less active on social networks and more active in his training, so that he is not taken by surprise, that is something that We all think at some point that he doesn't go through the same Mistakes he had Against Bivol.

The first fight though is at 160 lbs and others thought that GGG really won that fight. And in the second fight, it was at 168 lbs, Canelo's best weight so it's har to beat him at super MW as no one has done it before.

GGG has one of the best jaw and so is Canelo. So in this fight, as I have said, very hard to break that as Charlo might not have the power to crack that Canelo's jaw unless Canelo is really getting older by now.

That might be Canelo's downside in this day and age because as we've seen his recent fight against John Ryder, it was quite clear that his speed aren't the same but his power is still there, it's just that Ryder was quite clever and hard to take down with a knockout punch.

Anyway, I think that's what Charlo is hoping for, that Canelo is already old enough to defend his most beloved belts and division but since Canelo is eager to accept the fight, we can say as well that Canelo still have what it takes to defend what's his against someone who is trying to have what he has.

Canelo's dominance in his recent fights has solidifid his reputation as one of the top pound- for-pound fighters. However, boxing is full of surprises, and fights can unfold in unexpected ways. Charlo's decision to move up and face he is a testament to his confidence and willingness to take on tough challenges. It's true that measuring sticks like Charlo's move to face Canelo can provide insights into the potential success of fighters who jump weight classes. And from weight classes varries their different style because depending on their weight classify their speed and strecngth.

Who knows right? anything is possible and uncertain until it happened.

If you are talking about his recent fight with John Ryder, not sure if it is one side though, the fight was held in Mexico, but he didn't get an impressive win, as others have thought that Canelo is going to win by at least a knockout, and was surprised that Ryder lasted the whole fight. And there are fans saying that Canelo is losing his steps already and that's why Charlo is willing to fight him despite having to move up in 2 weight classes. And so Charlo is feeling very positive that he can dethroned Canelo.

That's not really the reason because Canelo himself knows that whatever he do, may it be good or bad for his image, he will always have a critic and say something like if ever he defeats Crawford in the process. It's not that he is still not accustomed to what this industry do to a boxer and he doesn't even care about that because he came all this way to become one of the legends.

Furthermore, for me, the real case is that Canelo knows his present situation and that surgery he got might've put him in vain because he is now viewed as a trophy that anybody else can have. That is why he is making a stand and will not adjust to any weight class because if he's the target then let them come to his own division.

We can't really compare Kovalev and Bivol though, Kovalev is already old when he fought Canelo, and it's obvious that he was targeted by team Canelo because they know that even if it is a huge jump to 175 lbs for Canelo that time, their chances to defeat him is huge.

And then Bivol was young and has the volume punching that Canelo didn't expect. But Canelo feel proud about that fight and Bivol was almost got robbed by the results from the judges scorecard.

And just like what is said, that doesn't matter right now because whether they like it or not, Canelo is already done in cementing his legacy as he already dominated and has been the undisputed champion and him being active now is just his move to collect as much money as he can while his name still makes some noise in the industry. With of course still taking precautions to avoid losses as much as possible during the process of collecting huge paychecks.

I guess you can say that but you're just avoiding the point, Canelo's camp might've targeted Sergey Kovalev at that time because they believed that Canelo's fire is still too hot to handle by the other boxer that he will come across and just like what they have thought, Canelo successfully defeated Kovalev who at that time was a champion at LHW.

Age might've been a factor, but it doesn't really matter because at that time, Canelo was already unstoppable. And while having the same thought, they tried to approach LHW again because the new champion, who is Bivol, does have a record that doesn't really stand out compared to Kovalev who is a KO artist. That is why they thought that if they managed to upset Kovalev who got a much better rapsheet then there should be no problem against Bivol. And that's where they made a mistake.

It's all Bivol though and not on the judges hand, on the contrary they could have cheated Bivol in that fight as the scores is very close. But I guess they understood that they change the score to favor Canelo because that will be madness and there will be a controversy in it.
Will be interesting though what Charlo will look at 168 lbs, looking at the pictures doing their face-off, he is taller than Canelo.
So there is still room for him to make more weight to be able to make the Super middleweight class.
Although Canelo is stockier build and so his frame looks big as compare to Charlo.

We'll have to wait and see, but Canelo has proven to be virtually unbeatable in his current division. This makes it highly unlikely that Charlo will upset him in their upcoming fight. It's possible that Charlo might consider moving up in weight classes after this bout, where he could potentially dominate in a heavier division.

In the current division, it appears that Canelo reigns supreme, and he seems to be eagerly waiting for a formidable challenge. One fighter who could provide that challenge is Crawford, who is very popular and might attempt to defeat Canelo to make history. The prospect of a Canelo vs. Crawford match is indeed intriguing, even if it means that Crawford would have to climb three weight divisions, which is a significant risk. However, Crawford is known for being a risk-taker, so we'll have to trust in his abilities.

That is exactly my point mate, Kovalev was already old at that time, that's why they challenge him for the LHW belt and won a hard fight. And after defeating Kovalev and win the belt, he went back to 168 lbs because they know that 175 lbs could be too much for Canelo at that point.

And they have proven it true, because again he challenge a taller guy at 175 lbs but this time, it was a young champion in Bivol and Canelo lost that fight clearly. And so far there is no rematch between the two, Canelo decided to stay at 168 lbs for now.

This is all theory.  Spence looks like he is going to trigger the rematch clause so Crawford has to fight him next per the deal that was struck where the lower can trigger a rematch.  Worse yet if Spence wins then there could be a rubber match after that.  I think it's all just wild speculation and Crawford using his win to spark conversation about him.

For me, the rematch's output will still be the same. Crawford dominated the whole fight except for that first round so it will be just the money they are getting here n the rematch and it will not be close, maybe Spence will last until the 12th round but still losing that fight, many even speculated that he has trouble fighting southpaws.

I've read an article that Canelo has changed his tunes and open in fighting Crawford next after his Charlo. This only means that Benavidez and Bivol fights will not happen in the near future.

i believe they are checking the pulse of the boxing community. if they see a large following about crawford vs canelo-charlo winner. their respective promoters may indeed push thru this match. however, if the rematch will happen between crawford and spence, then we may see first the winner of this rematch before anything else. as the tables can turn upside down.

I don't think they need the pulse of the boxing community though, Crawford is the number 1 pound for pound no doubt, and then the winner could be in the list as well. So there is money here, specially if it will be Canelo vs Crawford, the cash cow Canelo and then the pound for pound Crawford. But if it will be Charlo vs Crawford same still, they have beef already so it will make a good story line.

And for sure during face off, I expect a lot of trash talke (Charlo vs Crawford), maybe there will be pushing or shoving, I imagine. So it make sense to make this fight and it will be one of the biggest as there is history on the line.

Charlo needs to win so he can have a big fight with Crawford, because if not, the fight won't be as interesting, considering they are both eyeing a bout with Canelo. I'm sure Crawford understands that as well; he will fight for both money and his goal to be one of the greatest. Once he wins, he will become an undisputed champion, which could make him the most popular boxer in his generation.

There's a lot at stake in a possible Crawford vs. Canelo match, and it will certainly generate a lot of money, as it's a 50/50 fight. In contrast, Charlo vs. Crawford might end up being a one-sided bout in favor of Crawford, so I'm hoping Canelo will win impressively against Charlo.

I doubt that there will be a difference in their rematch if ever these two will find a deal to make the fight happen because we've already saw what Crawford can do and Spence's limits. Also, as Spence stated in the past few weeks, he said that he will suggest that a fight will happen at 154 because the weight at 147 is not for him anymore.

To be honest, it's quite evident already to me that Canelo is ducking Benavidez and doesn't want to pursue a fight against Bivol too. Bivol's manager already said that Canelo's camp was just making things look that they are interested for a rematch but there wasn't another deal proposed aside from that lowball offer that Bivol's camp rejected.

And that's why Crawford is eyeing the winner here, yeah, possible for a Charlo fight, but if Canelo defeated him, then obviously, it will be Canelo. Maybe there will be some of us who wanted Crawford vs. Charlo because they seems to really dislike each other.

Nevertheless, a Alvarez vs Crawford is going to be huge, it could be one of the biggest fight for this year. Just like the Garcia vs Davis fight, there will be a lot of hype specially for Crawford who is going to make history.

The way I see it, Canelo still holds his weight class pretty dominantly and I don't see that Charlo will be the first one to upset Canelo in his own weight class. His last fight, it was somehow a controversial one because he did not manage to knockout John Ryder but that is because Ryder's chin is so tough which gives Canelo some struggles but even that, I still think the same that Canelo will still have the last laugh and it did really happened.

Now, Charlo is taking point and making a challenge to the former pound for pound king and the current undisputed at 168 and a tough challenge is already awaiting for him. Crawford is still on the next page, so let's just talk about it later.

Yes, what you say about Canelo aging is very true, therefore he is also a pro for him, first because he knows every part of what he can do in a fight, second, he knows how far his capacity is and he knows very well how far reach and not exceed, know the limits of your body, you know if you go beyond the limits of your body because it will look bad, and you will not be able to resist, the other thing is that as you say, it has a strong jaw, so the blows have more capacity to resist it, then this is one of the things that we must consider, in the best of aspects we can say that Canelo is the one with the best preparation, but anything in boxing can happen, just remembering the fight of Spence and Crawfiord where he was sure to beat Crawford, in his interviews he said that he would give him that fight even though he was not at his level, and what he did not know was that Crawford had a great time training, so in a matter of In a short time he had already beaten Spence, so there it is shown that things are very opposible in boxing.

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Well , in this order of ideas , we as good fans of boxing Know that boxers first agree to see how much they are going to win and if it is a good business for them, both for what they are going to win in case one of the two they lose and it doesn't look so bad, and second , if the Show is worth it or not, then the most important thing here for many is the business model, that is the first thing for them , so who is where I focus the most that should first Being a good show and that it be in favor of the sport, that is what moves many of us in this sport, the things that are said to each Other , that there is that disagreement between the two and that they can get along very well at the time of the fight  , because It's not worth it just for the money, that doesn't make sense to me, and I think that many people in the world also think like me, because they know that true boxing is what occurs sincerely between two boxers that they really Want to wear a belt or that they really want to earn that title.

So, this fight could possibly happen, right?

@OP, you can edit the title now as there was already a winner of the Canelo vs Charlo fight.

It seems like Crawford is still eager to go toe to toe with Canelo. I guess it's worth following how far Crawford's ambition will go. He has already expressed his interest. We are just looking for Canelo's response regarding this. If a contract is signed, then they could start training, but I have a feeling the fight is going to be next year.

Unfortunately, we have seen the fight already and somewhat disappointment on how Charlo carry himself in this fight. As he didn't uses his boxing skills, throw less punches in the round. And where is the lion that he says that he will be in this fight?


Canelo didn't mentioned any names though, but he said that he will be ready for anyone that he is going to face next. So that means that Crawford is in the radar and cross hair of Canelo. However, we have seen that jumping 2 weight class doesn't look good, so this might be a problem that Crawford as he might be even have problems getting into 160 lbs. But we will see, if the money is right and there are a lot at stakes, for sure this fight could be made.

Was he ducking Charlo?

These are the top p4p on the list. This should be the biggest fight in 2024 if it does happen. 
Crawford hasn't tried going up for a long time to challenge himself in achieving new in the upper division, unlike Canelo who struggles to reach the top. Crawford though is undefeated that why he is still the no 1.  It is time for him to climb up, no one else is interested in fighting him on 147.

Sliding up in weight too quick isn't always the best thing to do.  Didn't he just climb a weight class just recently?  I know Crawford has said he wants to take on pretty much anyone in any class it seems now lol but it might be all talk.  If he does amd that fight comes together I'm booking that ppv would be fight of the year candidate like ypu said.

What I think is that Crawford felt that he wasted a lot of time Waiting for the rematch against Spence and that has made him think that his time is worth money and he wants to recover everything he lost, we have to see how a person is capable of making him throw away some of his professional sports life just by saying no, that is why in boxing no more than 1 year should pass without a boxer accepting a rematch, for that reason it is boxing, so that there is always the emotion of the rematch, things that should always be very legal in boxing, which every boxer must do, in this order of ideas we as fans, because we hope that the winner between Canelo and Charlo can have a good match with the great Crawford, which I find incredible, personally I would like it to be Canelo, I want to see in action what Crawford is like Against him, I think many people also want that, to be able to have a complete outline of boxing in recent times , it makes me laugh how you say it, because in part it is true, right now Crawofrod wants to fight against whoever, the way he is, the way he is fighting and his training, if he hasn't left it, I think he is in shape for any Fight that comes his way, because against Spence, he managed the time , He Managed him and wanted to give him everything in that fight until that round, so that he would receive all that punishment , which I really liked, and I wish all boxers did like him.

In these moments Crawford already wants a fight, but a fight against an influential boxer, someone famous, he wants to show everything he has, he can't wait that long, what I sense is because Crawford is trained just as hard as the years he trained to be able face Spence, if he is with that intensity, I don't think there will be any kind of problem if he goes up or down in weight, in category, because he is so hungry to do things well and to be champion that he can be measured against anyone, I would find that fight Interesting , Because it is Something that Represents a lot of Possibility for both of them to Win In this case I think I would lean More Towards Crawford.

I have to disagree though that no one is interested in fighting him at Welterweight. On the contrary everyone is calling or at least wanted to try to fight him since he is the unified champion at 147 lbs and undefeated. But if you look at the landscape of this division,

WBC - rank #1 Cody Crowley
WBA - rank #1 Vergil Ortiz
IBF - not rated
WBO - rank #1 Alexis Rocha

So it doesn't make sense for him to fight those as they are unknown and obviously there are no huge money involved here. That's why he is calling for Canelo or Spence activating the rematch clause and maybe they are going to fight next year, the only question is which weight class? Others claim that Spence is weight drain at 147 lbs and so the potential fight could happen at 154 lbs. However, if this pushes thru then there should be no belt in the line as Crawford's belt is all at Welterweight division.

I don't see any ducking here, it's just the business of boxing and the fight that will bring more money for them make sense.

I agree. A superstar will fight another superstar. That's the unwritten rule. First, the big money is there. Second, it's an awful match if a top pound-for-pound fighter will face against somebody unranked. Third, indeed, you need to make a name for yourself first before a star should even consider you, however of a loudmouth you are.

Spence and Crawford fighting at 154 is not an issue. Spence complained about 147. Crawford also admitted he had a hard time making it. They're both looking forward to be at 154 in their next fights. They'll debut in that division together. It's certainly not an issue if there isn't any belt on the line. It's their first time.

I also don't think Crawford is avoiding Charlo. Who is Charlo, after all? The boxer who could barely win a round against Canelo? If I were Crawford, I'd rather go straight to Canelo after defeating Spence in a rematch.

A rematch with Spence sounds like a good move for Crawford. It'll give him a chance to really test the waters in this new division. If he can beat Spence again, it'll definitely fuel speculation that Crawford can continue to shine as he climbs the ranks.

Now, thinking about a fight against Canelo is intriguing. People might lean towards Canelo, especially since Crawford's not in his natural weight class yet. But you know, in boxing, anything can happen, and maybe those of us who think he'll struggle will be proven wrong. I think he should take it one step at a time, not rush into any decisions. That time will come eventually.

Not sure if this is good moved by Spence, but if it is going to be 154 lbs, yeah, we will see if Crawford can still beat Spence the way he did it at 147 lbs. So if it's a dominating fashion again, no doubt he could be one of the best in this era.


Now this is a fight that is really intruiging as you have said, Charlo try to do it, climbing from 154 lbs to 168 lbs and fight Canelo and failed. And it's not even close as he just want to survived in that fight. So what's more for Crawford from 147 lbs to super middleweight, it's not going to be easy for him.

I was pretty excited for Crawford vs. Canelo too, but it looks like there's a fight before that since the rematch clause got activated. Spence still isn't convinced he's not on par with Crawford, so he wants a second shot. Personally, I think Crawford will still come out on top.

Now, speaking of Canelo, he's been looking pretty unbeatable in his current division. But as fans, we don't mind if Crawford takes a riskier move. All we want is an entertaining fight. Crawford's been critical of Charlo for not competing at a high level, so I'm sure he won't let us down. Whether he wins or loses via KO, it's bound to be an entertaining showdown.

Yeah, it seems that we will have to wait for the result of the Crawford vs Spence rematch before we can see if Crawford will fight Canelo next or if Canelo is still very interested or just go and fight David Benavidez next. So there's still a lot of scenario that can happen in the future so it's not an assurance that Crawford vs Canelo can happen.


No one can really beat Canelo as his best division, he seems to be really enjoying cleaning up the division. But there's one name that every fans are also itching to see him fight, that is the big and young David Benavidez. But Benavidez will have a fight so we will see if he can still live up to his hype and win so that he can call Canelo again and maybe Alvarez will give him a shot.

Spence has the opportunity to make a comeback in a different weight class, and I'm confident that this weight class suits him well. It's natural for everyone to assume that Crawford will win, given Spence's performance in their first meeting. However, there's no guarantee that Crawford will win again. Let's see if Spence can devise a different strategy that could potentially surprise the fans and secure a victory.


They are different boxers, so we will probably see a different result. In my opinion, Crawford is much more popular than Charlo. He currently holds the top spot on the pound-for-pound list, while Charlo isn't even in the top 10, if I'm not mistaken.