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August 23, 2023, 01:59:46 PM
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What Crawford is doing right now is trying to get under Canelo's skin to make him agree with a fight with him while also selling it to the people to make a hype.

Crawford is willing to fight Canelo at 168, and there's no reason for Canelo to say no if he's the current champion. So, although these are just rumors for now, Crawford has already shown his interest. If he's true to his words, this fight shouldn't be hard to materialize. Perhaps for Crawford, it needs a long preparation as he's going to move up 3 weight divisions. Therefore, it's likely this significant event will happen next year.



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August 23, 2023, 02:25:04 PM
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What Crawford is doing right now is trying to get under Canelo's skin to make him agree with a fight with him while also selling it to the people to make a hype.
Crawford is willing to fight Canelo at 168, and there's no reason for Canelo to say no if he's the current champion. So, although these are just rumors for now, Crawford has already shown his interest. If he's true to his words, this fight shouldn't be hard to materialize. Perhaps for Crawford, it needs a long preparation as he's going to move up 3 weight divisions. Therefore, it's likely this significant event will happen next year.
Jumping from 147 to 168 just to fight the winner of Canelo-Charlo doesn't make sense to me. Why is he chasing that so badly? He doesn't need that for his legacy to be honest. He can have all the excuses when he loses but I hope Crawford's team talk some sense to him. At least fight someone at 160 first before challenging 168.

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August 23, 2023, 02:46:26 PM
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What Crawford is doing right now is trying to get under Canelo's skin to make him agree with a fight with him while also selling it to the people to make a hype.
Crawford is willing to fight Canelo at 168, and there's no reason for Canelo to say no if he's the current champion. So, although these are just rumors for now, Crawford has already shown his interest. If he's true to his words, this fight shouldn't be hard to materialize. Perhaps for Crawford, it needs a long preparation as he's going to move up 3 weight divisions. Therefore, it's likely this significant event will happen next year.
Jumping from 147 to 168 just to fight the winner of Canelo-Charlo doesn't make sense to me. Why is he chasing that so badly? He doesn't need that for his legacy to be honest. He can have all the excuses when he loses but I hope Crawford's team talk some sense to him. At least fight someone at 160 first before challenging 168.

He said that during an interview; I don't think he is just messing with us. Canelo already said that he would only fight at 168, so it will force Crawford to move up because he thinks he could beat Canelo and become an undisputed champion again. In short, he wants to make history again. As a fan, I understand why he has to take that risky journey.

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August 23, 2023, 06:45:32 PM
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What Crawford is doing right now is trying to get under Canelo's skin to make him agree with a fight with him while also selling it to the people to make a hype.
Crawford is willing to fight Canelo at 168, and there's no reason for Canelo to say no if he's the current champion. So, although these are just rumors for now, Crawford has already shown his interest. If he's true to his words, this fight shouldn't be hard to materialize. Perhaps for Crawford, it needs a long preparation as he's going to move up 3 weight divisions. Therefore, it's likely this significant event will happen next year.
Jumping from 147 to 168 just to fight the winner of Canelo-Charlo doesn't make sense to me. Why is he chasing that so badly? He doesn't need that for his legacy to be honest. He can have all the excuses when he loses but I hope Crawford's team talk some sense to him. At least fight someone at 160 first before challenging 168.

He said that during an interview; I don't think he is just messing with us. Canelo already said that he would only fight at 168, so it will force Crawford to move up because he thinks he could beat Canelo and become an undisputed champion again. In short, he wants to make history again. As a fan, I understand why he has to take that risky journey.

Yes, Crawford wanted to show greatness and become legendary. And with his biggest win against Spence, I will not be surprised if he wanted to go up in weight and fight Canelo.
But as what we have been discussing, it could be dangerous for him to go up 2 weight classes and he could be in a situation wherein he thought that he can beat Canelo and challenging him in his best weight class. But it could be a rude awakening if the suddenly taste the power of a natural bigger guy than him and the undisputed champion at 168 lbs.

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August 23, 2023, 09:45:26 PM
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Click bait no way he jumps up that high quickly.  Bud would need to get acclimated in that weight class before he starts taking on the top dogs there.  I love buds game and lay in on him almost every fight but I wouldn't bet on him to win that one.  Think this is for publicity.

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In an interview on the Joe Rogan show, Terence Crawford expressed his desire to become a three-time undisputed champion and revealed his plan to move across three weight divisions to potentially face the victor of the Canelo vs Charlo bout. If this scenario indeed unfolds, I'm curious to know whom you're supporting to win. Please feel free to share your insights on this matter.




Crawford is still undefeated he has an impeccable offense and defense and no one comes close to dominating his game he has a claim to greatness as long as nobody beat him yet and he is still a champion, he can be considered this generation pound for pound great, Canelo is still great but he was exposed by Bivol so why not a fighter like Crawford exposing him again.

If ever they meet Crawford for me will have a slight advantage and I'm definitely voting for these two great boxers to meet in the ring.

They have to do it, someone's greatness has to be taken down and someone's greatness has to shine.


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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.

We might want to note that Canelo is younger than Crawford. Canelo is almost 3 years his junior. If this dream fight happens two years from now, Canelo is indeed approaching the twilight of his career. Crawford, on the other hand, is already approaching 40. Age is probably one of the reasons why Spence was running away and delaying his fight against Crawford. That's an off-topic opinion, though.

It would be an amazing moment in boxing's history if this fight takes place, especially if the two remain on a winning streak when the match happens. Crawford will, however, prove his worth in 154 first. If he proves to be effective and natural in this weight, and wins fights, then he could allow his body to continue gaining weight and reach 168. But he shouldn't be confronting Canelo right away. It would be the same process. If he proves that he can handle the weight naturally, without compromising his movements, quick responses, and so on, then he could face Canelo.

As to their physical stats, they're pretty much the same. Crawford has, of course, a longer reach though.

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August 24, 2023, 03:09:23 AM
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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.

We might want to note that Canelo is younger than Crawford. Canelo is almost 3 years his junior. If this dream fight happens two years from now, Canelo is indeed approaching the twilight of his career. Crawford, on the other hand, is already approaching 40. Age is probably one of the reasons why Spence was running away and delaying his fight against Crawford. That's an off-topic opinion, though.

It would be an amazing moment in boxing's history if this fight takes place, especially if the two remain on a winning streak when the match happens. Crawford will, however, prove his worth in 154 first. If he proves to be effective and natural in this weight, and wins fights, then he could allow his body to continue gaining weight and reach 168. But he shouldn't be confronting Canelo right away. It would be the same process. If he proves that he can handle the weight naturally, without compromising his movements, quick responses, and so on, then he could face Canelo.

As to their physical stats, they're pretty much the same. Crawford has, of course, a longer reach though.

Canelo struggled against Mayweather, who is a good defender and quicker as well. Probably, Crawford sees the weaknesses of Canelo, as although he has power, he can be outboxed, as was evident in the fight against Bivol. The match might be even in the eyes of the fans. Although Crawford is not fighting in his comfortable weight, given his achievements, his undefeated record, and the hype generated when he beat Spence in a one-sided beatdown, all these factors will come into play.

For now, Canelo still has business to take care of. It might be a bit early to discuss, but at least we can have an open discussion about the possibility of this fight happening. I'm sure both camps are eager to make this happen, as it could be the biggest payday for both fighters. Who knows, they might even surpass the PPV revenue generated by Mayweather in his fights.

As fans, it would really satisfy us to see the best fighters in the ring, with no excuses or dodging. They will prove who is the best.

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August 24, 2023, 03:18:42 AM
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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.

We might want to note that Canelo is younger than Crawford. Canelo is almost 3 years his junior. If this dream fight happens two years from now, Canelo is indeed approaching the twilight of his career. Crawford, on the other hand, is already approaching 40. Age is probably one of the reasons why Spence was running away and delaying his fight against Crawford. That's an off-topic opinion, though.

It would be an amazing moment in boxing's history if this fight takes place, especially if the two remain on a winning streak when the match happens. Crawford will, however, prove his worth in 154 first. If he proves to be effective and natural in this weight, and wins fights, then he could allow his body to continue gaining weight and reach 168. But he shouldn't be confronting Canelo right away. It would be the same process. If he proves that he can handle the weight naturally, without compromising his movements, quick responses, and so on, then he could face Canelo.

As to their physical stats, they're pretty much the same. Crawford has, of course, a longer reach though.

Canelo struggled against Mayweather, who is a good defender and quicker as well. Probably, Crawford sees the weaknesses of Canelo, as although he has power, he can be outboxed, as was evident in the fight against Bivol. The match might be even in the eyes of the fans. Although Crawford is not fighting in his comfortable weight, given his achievements, his undefeated record, and the hype generated when he beat Spence in a one-sided beatdown, all these factors will come into play.

For now, Canelo still has business to take care of. It might be a bit early to discuss, but at least we can have an open discussion about the possibility of this fight happening. I'm sure both camps are eager to make this happen, as it could be the biggest payday for both fighters. Who knows, they might even surpass the PPV revenue generated by Mayweather in his fights.

As fans, it would really satisfy us to see the best fighters in the ring, with no excuses or dodging. They will prove who is the best.

To be fair with Canelo, he as sort of a rookie that time and Mayweather was at his prime that's why Canelo really looks amateurish agains the defensive Floyd that he can't hit him with power punches.

We will see, yes he has Charlo up on his plate, but everyone is giving Charlo a slim chance to beat Canelo Alvarez. And once Alvarez won, we will see if he is willing to fight Crawford or will PBC have him fight another boxer like Benavidez or even Jermall Charlo, the original Charlo that he should have fight.

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August 24, 2023, 11:03:15 AM
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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.

We might want to note that Canelo is younger than Crawford. Canelo is almost 3 years his junior. If this dream fight happens two years from now, Canelo is indeed approaching the twilight of his career. Crawford, on the other hand, is already approaching 40. Age is probably one of the reasons why Spence was running away and delaying his fight against Crawford. That's an off-topic opinion, though.

It would be an amazing moment in boxing's history if this fight takes place, especially if the two remain on a winning streak when the match happens. Crawford will, however, prove his worth in 154 first. If he proves to be effective and natural in this weight, and wins fights, then he could allow his body to continue gaining weight and reach 168. But he shouldn't be confronting Canelo right away. It would be the same process. If he proves that he can handle the weight naturally, without compromising his movements, quick responses, and so on, then he could face Canelo.

As to their physical stats, they're pretty much the same. Crawford has, of course, a longer reach though.

My bad, I didn't even bother to research their ages but still Crawford is still small for Canelo if ever the fight happens this year or next because I have not seen a fighter jumping three weight classes then defeating the champion, not even Manny Pacquaio so I think Crawford will fight at least 3 fights before he can face Canelo competitively.
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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.

We might want to note that Canelo is younger than Crawford. Canelo is almost 3 years his junior. If this dream fight happens two years from now, Canelo is indeed approaching the twilight of his career. Crawford, on the other hand, is already approaching 40. Age is probably one of the reasons why Spence was running away and delaying his fight against Crawford. That's an off-topic opinion, though.

It would be an amazing moment in boxing's history if this fight takes place, especially if the two remain on a winning streak when the match happens. Crawford will, however, prove his worth in 154 first. If he proves to be effective and natural in this weight, and wins fights, then he could allow his body to continue gaining weight and reach 168. But he shouldn't be confronting Canelo right away. It would be the same process. If he proves that he can handle the weight naturally, without compromising his movements, quick responses, and so on, then he could face Canelo.

As to their physical stats, they're pretty much the same. Crawford has, of course, a longer reach though.

My bad, I didn't even bother to research their ages but still Crawford is still small for Canelo if ever the fight happens this year or next because I have not seen a fighter jumping three weight classes then defeating the champion, not even Manny Pacquaio so I think Crawford will fight at least 3 fights before he can face Canelo competitively.
And probably that is the reason why Crawford wanted to do this, no one has down it before, not even the old school boxers and not even the last legendary boxers we have jumping in 8 different weight class in Manny Pacquiao.

I think Crawford and Canelo is almost of the same height though, but it could be the different in muscle and bone destiny and obviously Canelo has the advantage because he is the natural super middleweight boxer.

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August 24, 2023, 04:10:03 PM
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What Crawford is doing right now is trying to get under Canelo's skin to make him agree with a fight with him while also selling it to the people to make a hype.
Crawford is willing to fight Canelo at 168, and there's no reason for Canelo to say no if he's the current champion. So, although these are just rumors for now, Crawford has already shown his interest. If he's true to his words, this fight shouldn't be hard to materialize. Perhaps for Crawford, it needs a long preparation as he's going to move up 3 weight divisions. Therefore, it's likely this significant event will happen next year.
Jumping from 147 to 168 just to fight the winner of Canelo-Charlo doesn't make sense to me. Why is he chasing that so badly? He doesn't need that for his legacy to be honest. He can have all the excuses when he loses but I hope Crawford's team talk some sense to him. At least fight someone at 160 first before challenging 168.

He said that during an interview; I don't think he is just messing with us. Canelo already said that he would only fight at 168, so it will force Crawford to move up because he thinks he could beat Canelo and become an undisputed champion again. In short, he wants to make history again. As a fan, I understand why he has to take that risky journey.

Couldn't blame Canelo because being a great boxer is surely a benefit and it's a reason why money is coming for him instead of chasing for it, just like this one, Charlo targeting Canelo because they know that it will be a big fight with a big money waiting and there's Crawford as well who might take a big leap over 3 weight classes just to face Canelo in one same ring. Both gentlemen want each of their names on their record and may the best man win because there is no doubt that all of them are strong but it's just that Canelo will have the upper hand.

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August 24, 2023, 09:06:46 PM
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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.

We might want to note that Canelo is younger than Crawford. Canelo is almost 3 years his junior. If this dream fight happens two years from now, Canelo is indeed approaching the twilight of his career. Crawford, on the other hand, is already approaching 40. Age is probably one of the reasons why Spence was running away and delaying his fight against Crawford. That's an off-topic opinion, though.

It would be an amazing moment in boxing's history if this fight takes place, especially if the two remain on a winning streak when the match happens. Crawford will, however, prove his worth in 154 first. If he proves to be effective and natural in this weight, and wins fights, then he could allow his body to continue gaining weight and reach 168. But he shouldn't be confronting Canelo right away. It would be the same process. If he proves that he can handle the weight naturally, without compromising his movements, quick responses, and so on, then he could face Canelo.

As to their physical stats, they're pretty much the same. Crawford has, of course, a longer reach though.

Canelo struggled against Mayweather, who is a good defender and quicker as well. Probably, Crawford sees the weaknesses of Canelo, as although he has power, he can be outboxed, as was evident in the fight against Bivol. The match might be even in the eyes of the fans. Although Crawford is not fighting in his comfortable weight, given his achievements, his undefeated record, and the hype generated when he beat Spence in a one-sided beatdown, all these factors will come into play.

For now, Canelo still has business to take care of. It might be a bit early to discuss, but at least we can have an open discussion about the possibility of this fight happening. I'm sure both camps are eager to make this happen, as it could be the biggest payday for both fighters. Who knows, they might even surpass the PPV revenue generated by Mayweather in his fights.

As fans, it would really satisfy us to see the best fighters in the ring, with no excuses or dodging. They will prove who is the best.

To be fair with Canelo, he as sort of a rookie that time and Mayweather was at his prime that's why Canelo really looks amateurish agains the defensive Floyd that he can't hit him with power punches.

We will see, yes he has Charlo up on his plate, but everyone is giving Charlo a slim chance to beat Canelo Alvarez. And once Alvarez won, we will see if he is willing to fight Crawford or will PBC have him fight another boxer like Benavidez or even Jermall Charlo, the original Charlo that he should have fight.

That wasn't because canelo didn't have enough experience.  Floyd embarrassed everyone.  Hate him or love him he was one of the best boxers of all time.  And don't give me he was a defensive see boxer and was boring at times.  That was by design, boxing is a stretch sport and Floyd used this to his advantage.  Dude always ended the fight without looking like he got touched.

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August 24, 2023, 09:23:27 PM
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He needs to prove himself and have some warm-up fight first before fighting these big shots in their weight division because he needs to be compatible first at that weight but that only goes for common boxers because as for Crawford, he can just simply increase his weight and learn more about controlling his punches and gain some speed in the training and he is good to fight either of this two. I remember Manny Pacquiao when he fought Antonio Margarito, he didn't need some warm-up fight and he just simply and successfully beat the big guy in his comfortable weight zone.

The warm up match itself define the best one among this two players.They can conduct three warm up matches to find best of three.The master move was done by the Crawford to increase the weight and increasing the weight will be easier one compared to decreasing the weight.The speed of the punches was most important on in the boxing,the speed of punches will increase only on the practice.Crawford doing the practice of the punches along with the increasing the weight,Charlo should also look into the speed of the punches per minutes or else game will be one side.

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Click bait no way he jumps up that high quickly.  Bud would need to get acclimated in that weight class before he starts taking on the top dogs there.  I love buds game and lay in on him almost every fight but I wouldn't bet on him to win that one.  Think this is for publicity.

It could be he is looking for publicity but there's also the fact that despite being one of the best fighters of his generation, Crawford has not had the type of paydays that Floyd, Canelo, or Pacquiao have had. He doesn't have the personality to be that kind of draw. After the success of his fight with Spence he is looking for another big payday and to achieve that he is going to have to take some risks.

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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.

We might want to note that Canelo is younger than Crawford. Canelo is almost 3 years his junior. If this dream fight happens two years from now, Canelo is indeed approaching the twilight of his career. Crawford, on the other hand, is already approaching 40. Age is probably one of the reasons why Spence was running away and delaying his fight against Crawford. That's an off-topic opinion, though.

It would be an amazing moment in boxing's history if this fight takes place, especially if the two remain on a winning streak when the match happens. Crawford will, however, prove his worth in 154 first. If he proves to be effective and natural in this weight, and wins fights, then he could allow his body to continue gaining weight and reach 168. But he shouldn't be confronting Canelo right away. It would be the same process. If he proves that he can handle the weight naturally, without compromising his movements, quick responses, and so on, then he could face Canelo.

As to their physical stats, they're pretty much the same. Crawford has, of course, a longer reach though.

Canelo struggled against Mayweather, who is a good defender and quicker as well. Probably, Crawford sees the weaknesses of Canelo, as although he has power, he can be outboxed, as was evident in the fight against Bivol. The match might be even in the eyes of the fans. Although Crawford is not fighting in his comfortable weight, given his achievements, his undefeated record, and the hype generated when he beat Spence in a one-sided beatdown, all these factors will come into play.

For now, Canelo still has business to take care of. It might be a bit early to discuss, but at least we can have an open discussion about the possibility of this fight happening. I'm sure both camps are eager to make this happen, as it could be the biggest payday for both fighters. Who knows, they might even surpass the PPV revenue generated by Mayweather in his fights.

As fans, it would really satisfy us to see the best fighters in the ring, with no excuses or dodging. They will prove who is the best.

To be fair with Canelo, he as sort of a rookie that time and Mayweather was at his prime that's why Canelo really looks amateurish agains the defensive Floyd that he can't hit him with power punches.

We will see, yes he has Charlo up on his plate, but everyone is giving Charlo a slim chance to beat Canelo Alvarez. And once Alvarez won, we will see if he is willing to fight Crawford or will PBC have him fight another boxer like Benavidez or even Jermall Charlo, the original Charlo that he should have fight.

That wasn't because canelo didn't have enough experience.  Floyd embarrassed everyone.  Hate him or love him he was one of the best boxers of all time.  And don't give me he was a defensive see boxer and was boring at times.  That was by design, boxing is a stretch sport and Floyd used this to his advantage.  Dude always ended the fight without looking like he got touched.

While I agree that Canelo was defeated fairly and squarely and Floyd embarrassed him and everyone else, I would never agree that he's one of the best boxers of all time. Props to him for winning all of his professional fights and for ending many of his fights as if he hadn't been touched, but that's not enough for me to put him on the pedestal of the best boxers of all time. He's not even close to the likes of Julio Cesar Chavez.

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If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.

We might want to note that Canelo is younger than Crawford. Canelo is almost 3 years his junior. If this dream fight happens two years from now, Canelo is indeed approaching the twilight of his career. Crawford, on the other hand, is already approaching 40. Age is probably one of the reasons why Spence was running away and delaying his fight against Crawford. That's an off-topic opinion, though.

It would be an amazing moment in boxing's history if this fight takes place, especially if the two remain on a winning streak when the match happens. Crawford will, however, prove his worth in 154 first. If he proves to be effective and natural in this weight, and wins fights, then he could allow his body to continue gaining weight and reach 168. But he shouldn't be confronting Canelo right away. It would be the same process. If he proves that he can handle the weight naturally, without compromising his movements, quick responses, and so on, then he could face Canelo.

As to their physical stats, they're pretty much the same. Crawford has, of course, a longer reach though.

Canelo struggled against Mayweather, who is a good defender and quicker as well. Probably, Crawford sees the weaknesses of Canelo, as although he has power, he can be outboxed, as was evident in the fight against Bivol. The match might be even in the eyes of the fans. Although Crawford is not fighting in his comfortable weight, given his achievements, his undefeated record, and the hype generated when he beat Spence in a one-sided beatdown, all these factors will come into play.

For now, Canelo still has business to take care of. It might be a bit early to discuss, but at least we can have an open discussion about the possibility of this fight happening. I'm sure both camps are eager to make this happen, as it could be the biggest payday for both fighters. Who knows, they might even surpass the PPV revenue generated by Mayweather in his fights.

As fans, it would really satisfy us to see the best fighters in the ring, with no excuses or dodging. They will prove who is the best.

To be fair with Canelo, he as sort of a rookie that time and Mayweather was at his prime that's why Canelo really looks amateurish agains the defensive Floyd that he can't hit him with power punches.

We will see, yes he has Charlo up on his plate, but everyone is giving Charlo a slim chance to beat Canelo Alvarez. And once Alvarez won, we will see if he is willing to fight Crawford or will PBC have him fight another boxer like Benavidez or even Jermall Charlo, the original Charlo that he should have fight.

That wasn't because canelo didn't have enough experience.  Floyd embarrassed everyone.  Hate him or love him he was one of the best boxers of all time.  And don't give me he was a defensive see boxer and was boring at times.  That was by design, boxing is a stretch sport and Floyd used this to his advantage.  Dude always ended the fight without looking like he got touched.

While I agree that Canelo was defeated fairly and squarely and Floyd embarrassed him and everyone else, I would never agree that he's one of the best boxers of all time. Props to him for winning all of his professional fights and for ending many of his fights as if he hadn't been touched, but that's not enough for me to put him on the pedestal of the best boxers of all time. He's not even close to the likes of Julio Cesar Chavez.

My personal opinion of the sport of boxing is that it isn't just about winning. I put weight on it being a combat sport. I know that defense is part of any fighting sport, but hurting the opponent is probably the main goal in boxing. For me, winning and winning in an explosive fashion is what makes a boxer a great boxer. Respect to him, of course, for being undefeated, but the way he fights doesn't make him one of the greatest of all time.

Canelo's style could not beat Floyd's, even when both of them were in their prime. Personally, I believe the only boxer who gave Floyd problems and could have beaten him, if not for biased judges, was Maidana. He frustrated Floyd with his style, as his punches came from unusual angles, and Floyd's defense was less effective during that time. But anyway, that's in the past already. Floyd remained unbeaten and retired, still being known for his defensive approach, which some found boring.

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Canelo's style could not beat Floyd's, even when both of them were in their prime. Personally, I believe the only boxer who gave Floyd problems and could have beaten him, if not for biased judges, was Maidana. He frustrated Floyd with his style, as his punches came from unusual angles, and Floyd's defense was less effective during that time. But anyway, that's in the past already. Floyd remained unbeaten and retired, still being known for his defensive approach, which some found boring.

I might agree with you on that point, as there were boxers who we believed could defeat Floyd Mayweather, particularly Pacquiao, yet Floyd managed to make him appear amateurish. Floyd possesses a unique talent that enables him to dominate his opponents not necessarily by knocking them out, but by outscoring them. His slick style and high boxing IQ are truly remarkable.

If we delve into his fight history (https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/floyd-mayweather-betting-odds), we can observe that bookmakers consistently favored him in all of his fights. Only De La Hoya was able to provide him with a tougher challenge, resulting in a split decision.



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August 25, 2023, 10:51:42 AM
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Canelo's style could not beat Floyd's, even when both of them were in their prime. Personally, I believe the only boxer who gave Floyd problems and could have beaten him, if not for biased judges, was Maidana. He frustrated Floyd with his style, as his punches came from unusual angles, and Floyd's defense was less effective during that time. But anyway, that's in the past already. Floyd remained unbeaten and retired, still being known for his defensive approach, which some found boring.

I might agree with you on that point, as there were boxers who we believed could defeat Floyd Mayweather, particularly Pacquiao, yet Floyd managed to make him appear amateurish. Floyd possesses a unique talent that enables him to dominate his opponents not necessarily by knocking them out, but by outscoring them. His slick style and high boxing IQ are truly remarkable.

If we delve into his fight history (https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/floyd-mayweather-betting-odds), we can observe that bookmakers consistently favored him in all of his fights. Only De La Hoya was able to provide him with a tougher challenge, resulting in a split decision.
We will still have to find it though, I mean obviously they are in the different era if we talk about Crawford vs Floyd. But for sure this will be a great fight prime for prime. As of those who are close to beat Floyd, yeah, I do agree Marcos Maidana almost did it and maybe he pulled it off and in the rematch, it was a totally different fight and Floyd won clearly.

Another boxer is Sugar Shane Mosley, he rock Floyd with a right hand and it was the first time that we saw Floyd holding because he felt the power and almost goes down. So for me, Floyd doesn't have a good chin, except that no one really can touch him because of his reflex and good defense.

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August 25, 2023, 11:01:59 AM
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Another boxer is Sugar Shane Mosley, he rock Floyd with a right hand and it was the first time that we saw Floyd holding because he felt the power and almost goes down. So for me, Floyd doesn't have a good chin, except that no one really can touch him because of his reflex and good defense.

He was fortunate that Shane Mosley wasn't in his prime at that time. Floyd still managed to win that fight via unanimous decision as he was in control throughout. While Shane Mosley was able to connect with his solid punches against Mayweather, he didn't perform well against Pacman. Different opponents often lead to different outcomes due to the styles that make the fight.

However, there's no debate about who the better fighter is between Canelo and Mayweather, as they have already fought, and Mayweather won convincingly. Fans of Canelo shouldn't make excuses; they have to accept the defeat.

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