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Title: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: Comfort 11 on August 25, 2023, 08:31:23 AM
This is my alt of Gulttam2a2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3552883)

Yesterday I made a post on our local board claiming that the last two lines of the post were collected and translated from another place and used in my post. I am sharing here the link of the post where it is mentioned that I have stolen two lines of my post,
Post Link  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg62741717#msg62741717)


Basically I made the post from my actual experience but I used the last two lines of the post to match the post where it is said that I am I stole the last two lines. I read the article with which the last two lines of my post were combined and based on that idea I created the last two lines of my own where I was told I directly copied and pasted that article into my post. If you take a good look at my profile you will understand that I have never posted any copy or I have not used any AI in my posts so why would I copy words from other places to post on my local board and use them in my posts? 
I was not given any opportunity or enough time to speak after my post was plagiarized. My account has been permanently banned without verifying the allegations. 

Out of 15 lines of posts, only two lines of posts are being accused of plagiarism, even if the allegations are proved to be true, I would request everyone to give me one more chance. Since I didn't copy the entire post only the last two lines I made my own with the idea so hopefully I'll get a chance.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on August 25, 2023, 08:54:13 AM
The unban appeal should be in the META section. Move her there.
It's hard to believe that there can be such coincidences. You have copied and translated it into your local language. I can understand your frustration, but if plagiarism is found, you must accept it and prove to the forum that you should be given a second chance. Therefore, do not deviate from the rules; publish your posts only on this topic, but first transfer them.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: Xal0lex on August 25, 2023, 08:59:02 AM
First of all, move your topic to the Meta section. The theme of this topic does not belong to this section.

Secondly, no one has ever banned users on this forum just for nothing. Each case of rules violation is considered separately and only then the decision on punishment is made.

Thirdly, you are not new to the forum and you know very well that plagiarism is punished with the strictest punishment. And yet, you go for it. It is embedding other people's words in your text that is the real plagiarism.

This is, first of all, your fault. Therefore, you can only blame yourself for what happened. Who or what prevented you from inserting a link to words you took from someone else?

I don't think you will get a pardon.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on August 25, 2023, 09:56:59 AM
This is my alt of Gulttam2a2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3552883)

Out of 15 lines of posts, only two lines of posts are being accused of plagiarism, even if the allegations are proved to be true, I would request everyone to give me one more chance. Since I didn't copy the entire post only the last two lines I made my own with the idea so hopefully I'll get a chance.

Your local language English translation is 100% same to the article posted 19 months ago and still you are denying that you have not plagiarized. Bitcointalk is the forum to discuss own idea and if you are using others idea then you should add source link. plagiarism is strictly prohibited here and I am not seeing any unbanned chance for you. One of our local board users is trying from one year but still not unbanned.

Have you ever bothered to read forum rules one time only? it is clear mentioned in rules no 33 that plagiarized is strictly prohibited. two lines or even one lines (same to same) are enough to prove that you are content stealer.

33. Posting plagiarized content is not allowed.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: Doan9269 on August 25, 2023, 12:29:46 PM
Basically I made the post from my actual experience but I used the last two lines of the post to match the post where it is said that I am I stole the last two lines. I read the article with which the last two lines of my post were combined and based on that idea I created the last two lines of my own where I was told I directly copied and pasted that article into my post.

I know one thing for sire when it comes to issues of being banned on the forum, the moderators don't make mistake in decerning for the ban consequence as long as you're found guilty of it, they would have seen it with enough and satisfactory evidence that you did something wrong which attract for a ban, if you're lucky enough it may be temporary ban, but if it's permanent ban, your chances of being unbanned is very small, something is telling me that maybe you paraphrase the two lines you're complaining about which you don't know that the plagiarism checker will definitely fish out, then maybe because it was also translated in local language you think it's well sealed and covered, my thoughts anyways.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: logfiles on August 25, 2023, 01:49:02 PM
What stopped you from referencing or quoting the source of the last two lines you copied from somewhere?

Honestly, I know it's a bit harsh, but it is also your fault copying someone else's work and passing it as your own. We don't do that here. You lose completely nothing if you quote or cite the source in your post. It's a shame.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: yahoo62278 on August 25, 2023, 02:55:38 PM

Out of 15 lines of posts, only two lines of posts are being accused of plagiarism, even if the allegations are proved to be true, I would request everyone to give me one more chance.
This here tells me that you know you tried to cheat the system and you should always think about the consequences of your actions before trying to get away with something. It's not that hard to make a post here and so many people act like it's writing an essay.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: Comfort 11 on August 25, 2023, 05:12:02 PM
What stopped you from referencing or quoting the source of the last two lines you copied from somewhere?

Honestly, I know it's a bit harsh, but it is also your fault copying someone else's work and passing it as your own. We don't do that here. You lose completely nothing if you quote or cite the source in your post. It's a shame.
Since the last two lines of my post match that article, everyone thinks I copied that post. But I don't think I need to copy and post information from somewhere else to post on my local board. I wrote the post in my own way but my last two lines coincided with the article unexpectedly but still I apologize. You can see my past posts that I haven't copied and pasted from anywhere I post my own way. Hopefully I will get another chance to make up for this unfortunate mistake of mine.


Out of 15 lines of posts, only two lines of posts are being accused of plagiarism, even if the allegations are proved to be true, I would request everyone to give me one more chance.
This here tells me that you know you tried to cheat the system and you should always think about the consequences of your actions before trying to get away with something. It's not that hard to make a post here and so many people act like it's writing an essay.
When I was new here I started posting by looking at all the rules first. I have also seen this rule that no plagiarism or copying posts can be done here, ID will be canceled immediately. If you read my entire post I did not try to plagiarize my post but accidentally the last two lines match that article. Posting in your own local thread in your own language does not require plagiarizing information from other places. I once again apologize for the unintended juxtaposition of the last two lines of my post and hope to have another chance to prove myself for this unintended mistake.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: nakamura12 on August 25, 2023, 06:41:04 PM
This is my alt of Gulttam2a2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3552883)
Does that mean the account you mentioned is not your main account?. The reason is obvious why your account got banned and as you can see the translation of the post you made contains the lines from the original which is very much the same. I think the chance you have about getting unbanned is very low or almost to 0% and the reason is you didn't even admitted that you have plagiarized someone's work. It would be fine and not banned if you only quoted the original then you wouldn't need to start a ban appeal.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on August 25, 2023, 07:48:56 PM
Cases of plagiarism aren't no easy task to request and achieve reversals that easily... I'd be better if you really took the rules as a point of reconsideration as to being selective on the content you post - or atleast adding a source link to any extracted content...
I understand how you feel right now - it ain't easy to build an account from scratch... I mean, if we're left to face reality, then that should be a value to preserve at all cost... I'm not tryna act weird buh.....hmmm,..the chances are just so fucking slim.
P/s: I know this is really frequent on local boards; especially where the language is indecipherable.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: logfiles on August 25, 2023, 10:21:07 PM
Since the last two lines of my post match that article, everyone thinks I copied that post. But I don't think I need to copy and post information from somewhere else to post on my local board. I wrote the post in my own way but my last two lines coincided with the article unexpectedly but still I apologize.
Coincidence, huh?

44 words translated from the English article, and it was a coincidence?
Hard luck getting your account unbanned!

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You can see my past posts that I haven't copied and pasted from anywhere I post my own way.
Mods don't care about your past posts. What got you banned is not your past.

It's like killing someone today and then telling the cops, "Hey, you can look into my past, I didn't kill anyone, so you should let me go"

When I was new here I started posting by looking at all the rules first. I have also seen this rule that no plagiarism or copying posts can be done here, ID will be canceled immediately. If you read my entire post I did not try to plagiarize my post but accidentally the last two lines match that article. Posting in your own local thread in your own language does not require plagiarizing information from other places.
The last two lines accidentally match that article! Alright boss.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: sheenshane on August 25, 2023, 10:57:27 PM
If you read my entire post I did not try to plagiarize my post but accidentally the last two lines match that article.
This unacceptable excuse and that's the reason why your account was banned, it's mere cases that I see the same case as given a second chance I think you need to move on and learn from your mistake.  IMO, these accidental similarities can still raise concerns about proper citation and originality to avoid plagiarism, and stealing other work will have a heavy punishment like this.

Sorry to say but this unbanned request will unlikely be granted.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: SmartGold01 on August 26, 2023, 04:57:07 AM
Instead of you copying why don't you post the entire article and provide the source link for your account safety? Even as that it's not encouraging to copy two lines from someone elsewhere to post over here without referencing the real author who created such topics, and this mistake has been another problems of most newbies or beginners while they are trying to be constructive and creative for them to grow as well.

It's forbidden and against the forum ethics for a post to be copied elsewhere and paste it directly to your locals or to the community at large, in as much as you are trying to be informative you should also try as well to keep to rules and regulations abiding this community.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: Comfort 11 on August 26, 2023, 05:19:18 AM
I apologize for my mistake. I won't do this again in the future. But please forgive me this time and give me another chance to prove myself. I will refrain from plagiarizing this in future. I hope you will forgive my mistake and give me another chance to prove myself.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on August 26, 2023, 06:58:43 AM

When I was new here I started posting by looking at all the rules first.

OP, I'm pretty sure you have a few other alternative accounts that take time to debunk. Previously, a topic was raised about the participants in the pizza contest and their strange appearance on the forum. And it turns out you are one of them. It's rather strange, isn't it, to come to the forum, and the first post is about participation in the competition? Let's ask everyone else. Do such newcomers exist? After two forum postings, you have already listed all the members of your Bengali section. Brilliant.
Therefore, while you are now lying about the fact that you wonderfully formulated your phrase, already previously spoken in English, you are also lying about the fact that you are new to the forum. And I hope that, in time, all your accounts will be caught and deleted.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: Mpamaegbu on August 26, 2023, 01:41:17 PM
Out of 15 lines of posts, only two lines of posts are being accused of plagiarism, even if the allegations are proved to be true, I would request everyone to give me one more chance. Since I didn't copy the entire post only the last two lines I made my own with the idea so hopefully I'll get a chance.
Even if it were just a line of posts that was picked from someone else's posts or article without properly being referenced, the forum sees such act as theft and deceit. It's frowned at here and the punishment is often grave. I don't know what informed your decision to add those extra two lines to your post when you already had a lengthy post. Post constructiveness doesn't lie in its verbosity or how lengthy it's but in its ability to respond to issues and provide solutions or quality responses to them. I do hope you will mend your ways if you eventually come out of this mess. Good luck to your appeal.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: SamReomo on August 26, 2023, 02:16:49 PM
I apologize for my mistake. I won't do this again in the future. But please forgive me this time and give me another chance to prove myself. I will refrain from plagiarizing this in future. I hope you will forgive my mistake and give me another chance to prove myself.

Plagiarism has always been unacceptable in this forum and it will always be unacceptable. Willingly or unintentionally you have plagiarized someone else's content which isn't a good act at all. If you already knew that plagiarism could cause a ban on your account but still you did that act despite knowing everything then I don't think that you'll get another chance because I have seen that many members who were banned due to plagiarized content didn't got another chance from the admins and mods of the forum.

I don't know if your apology will be accepted or not but I recommend you to stick with your words and avoid any kind of plagiarism on this forum or anywhere else because stealing of others work isn't a fair thing and anyone who does that should keep in mind that such kind of act won't give them any success in life. Try to create your own content rather than stealing someone else's work, and if you use someone else's work then properly quote the author and original source of the work to avoid plagiarism. Proper referencing is needed when you're copying and pasting someone else's work because without proper reference it will be plagiarizing of the content of someone else.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: Lafu on August 26, 2023, 02:58:28 PM
I apologize for my mistake. I won't do this again in the future. But please forgive me this time and give me another chance to prove myself. I will refrain from plagiarizing this in future.
Its hard to believe that what you say and have written!

Because i checked a lot of your posts since you started writing on the Forum and there are a few more posts that have some Lines from some Instagram posts that are the same.
Also i dont think that you get unbanned as there is not realy some things that its worth to unban your Account from what i have readed on all your posts.
Its everytime the same excuse from Users after they got catched that they dont do it again.
To be honest i guess the chances are zero that you can be active again here.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: KingsDen on August 29, 2023, 10:05:38 AM

Out of 15 lines of posts, only two lines of posts are being accused of plagiarism

Two lines is big enough to be penalised for plagiarism. I have read somewhere that there is a rule that if you copy 5 words at a stretch you can be penalised of plagiarism. Obviously, 2 lines contains more than 5 words.

even if the allegations are proved to be true, I would request everyone to give me one more chance.
Ok, there is a room for forgiveness. If your chances are good the moderators can unban you.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: Z_MBFM on August 29, 2023, 10:21:25 AM
~snip~
Plagiarism.
User who plagiarizes

Gulttam2a2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3552883) Banned

Another lover of stealing other people's phrases and translating them into the local language. For this, they also give him merit.

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Translation into English of the text that is highlighted in yellow.

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You have to find those roads by your own judgement. So question your conscience before taking any decision. If you trust yourself completely, your conscience will not misguide you. If you do not fully believe in yourself, you will not make the right decisions.
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Where it was copied from

https://read.cash/@Kawsarr/10-ways-to-become-a-successful-entrepreneur-b0ad51d1

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Mr Op i am from Bangladesh and I know very well that a Bangladeshi would never write Bengali like that.  You have translated this entire post from a English article to Bengali using any translation tools/apps and posted it on a local board. and you also earned some fucking merit using such way. Your account has been banned due to plagiarism.  Even though you are from my country, I think something fair has happened to you.  You should learn from them


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: hugeblack on August 29, 2023, 01:11:54 PM
OP, I'm pretty sure you have a few other alternative accounts that take time to debunk. Previously, a topic was raised about the participants in the pizza contest and their strange appearance on the forum. And it turns out you are one of them. It's rather strange, isn't it, to come to the forum, and the first post is about participation in the competition? Let's ask everyone else. Do such newcomers exist? After two forum postings, you have already listed all the members of your Bengali section. Brilliant.
An account that earned merits from the Pizza bake-off contest, posts heavily in the local board and gambling section (where posts are hard to notice) and has Merit associated with 2Pizza410000BTC I'm sure there are multiple accounts, maybe the reason he's trying to get this account to be active.

@OP If you really think your account deserves to be given a chance, this might mean searching your history and proving that you have alternate accounts (the admin can see your IP addresses) so unless you lock this thread more accounts may be banned.

In short, lock this topic, and do not repeat it again if you have alt accounts or are considering creating other accounts.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: virasog on August 30, 2023, 12:09:56 AM
I apologize for my mistake. I won't do this again in the future. But please forgive me this time and give me another chance to prove myself. I will refrain from plagiarizing this in future. I hope you will forgive my mistake and give me another chance to prove myself.


Everyone admits their mistakes once they are caught for plagiarizing and getting banned. This means that all of those banned accounts should be given a chance or this privilege of "One Chance" should only be given to you  ???

Initially you admitted that you have copied two lines, but other people have figured out that you have copied and translated the whole post.
You will not be unban, therefore there is no point for you to keep on appealing and looking for a 2nd chance. You're wasting time.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: LogitechMouse on August 30, 2023, 01:51:29 AM
I apologize for my mistake. I won't do this again in the future. But please forgive me this time and give me another chance to prove myself. I will refrain from plagiarizing this in future. I hope you will forgive my mistake and give me another chance to prove myself.
Say something religious, or say anything like related to "God", "Allah" or "have mercy" etc. Some of the users here who committed plagiarism often say things like that in their post, and the ending? Account still unbanned.

Kidding aside, copy-pasting is a serious offense here, and I believe you aren't new here base on what others are saying thus, you probably knew that this will lead to your account getting banned right? Why risk it then ask for forgiveness, and then unban your account? Like what others are saying here, I also believe that you still have alt accounts out there.

I forgive people very easily in real life. Just one sorry, a bit of an explanation, and done. :D Unfortunately, I'm not an admin here so even though I say that I forgive you for what you've done (probably I will not), admins here will not probably, so move on, move forward, and don't forget to lock the thread as well.


Title: Re: Request for unbanned my account.
Post by: examplens on August 30, 2023, 11:38:29 AM
An account that earned merits from the Pizza bake-off contest, posts heavily in the local board and gambling section (where posts are hard to notice) and has Merit associated with 2Pizza410000BTC I'm sure there are multiple accounts, maybe the reason he's trying to get this account to be active.

All contests like Pizza Bake Off are overrated. Now we have some promoted members just because they took pictures of spices in their kitchen. It makes no sense at all to the merit system and ranking on the Bitcoin forum.

Since the last two lines of my post match that article, everyone thinks I copied that post. But I don't think I need to copy and post information from somewhere else to post on my local board. I wrote the post in my own way but my last two lines coincided with the article unexpectedly but still I apologize. You can see my past posts that I haven't copied and pasted from anywhere I post my own way.

I'm not sure I understand the outcome of this whole situation. You were just expressing your opinion, but somehow it happened to be identical to some text elsewhere, you have not copied at all.
A little later, You still apologize for your mistake and promise not to plagiarize anymore.

I apologize for my mistake. I won't do this again in the future. But please forgive me this time and give me another chance to prove myself. I will refrain from plagiarizing this in future. I hope you will forgive my mistake and give me another chance to prove myself.