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Title: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on August 28, 2023, 03:42:18 AM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on August 28, 2023, 04:18:08 AM
As bitcoin becomes more established and the price has grown since it was first traded at less than $0.01 it is normal that we have periods of low volatility. This tends to happen in companies as well, small caps are more volatile than when they have been around for years, have established themselves and their price has risen sufficiently, when they become large caps.

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??[/i][/b]

I would say that in the time until halving we should have a rise to the $40,000 area or thereabouts, with ups and downs, and after halving we should go much higher. We are in the calm before the storm.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: mk4 on August 28, 2023, 04:30:14 AM
What do you mean? This has happened in the past. You might just not feel like this happened before because of recency bias.

Anyway, if you want to feel more volatility, you can either trade altcoins(down the ranks if you want MORE volatility), or trade the majors with leverage. Simple.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on August 28, 2023, 04:41:41 AM
What do you mean? This has happened in the past. You might just not feel like this happened before because of recency bias.

Anyway, if you want to feel more volatility, you can either trade altcoins(down the ranks if you want MORE volatility), or trade the majors with leverage. Simple.
Really ? when in past ? if you go back to the last bear run the price ranged between 3000-4000 for a long period of time. But thats equivalent to 30% . Have u seen such moves in recent days ?? I dont think so. Its just that BTC is more established now and the volatility is gone.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: adaseb on August 28, 2023, 04:43:27 AM
I think the volatility was lower in 2015. Most of the volatility instruments for bitcoin don’t go that far so you can’t check but the volatility was awful in 2015. Basically barely any moves. Was mostly miners dumping their mined coins and nothing else.

2019 was also bad but not as bad as 2015 or right now. Why is it so flat? Who knows. Maybe it’s summer or maybe people just lost interest in crypto. Wait until October and see what happens then.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on August 28, 2023, 06:57:28 AM
I think the volatility was lower in 2015. Most of the volatility instruments for bitcoin don’t go that far so you can’t check but the volatility was awful in 2015. Basically barely any moves. Was mostly miners dumping their mined coins and nothing else.

2019 was also bad but not as bad as 2015 or right now. Why is it so flat? Who knows. Maybe it’s summer or maybe people just lost interest in crypto. Wait until October and see what happens then.
No clue about 2015 as i was not active. Probably summer could be the reason and if there is high volatility in october then we know for sure that summer is the reason. 2018-19 bear run was slow right but not like these days. gotta have high hopes from october then :)


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Sebas.tian on August 28, 2023, 07:46:06 AM
You don't need to worry about the current dump op, all you need to do in this season is to ensure you exercise patience in your holding so that you will not miss it when you start trading your coins in the market. I don't think this is the first time for crypto to dump in the market, and it will not be the last, which are part of some of the things crypto traders must experience before they can swim in profits making when the price of Bitcoin is pumping in the market. Once you begin to see things like this in the crypto market, you don't need to panic in that period than to focus on the market to see what potential traders are doing at the moment because they don't trade when there is bearish season than to continue holding.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: michellee on August 28, 2023, 11:03:51 AM
Now, it is different from a few years ago, when crypto has become increasingly popular and has attracted more people to use crypto for trading. That is what makes the movement or volatility of the crypto market unpredictable. I feel the same way when I see what's going on in the market, especially since the current market conditions have more coins to trade, making it difficult to analyze the coins.

And when the market gets to what it is now, it's not likely to go back to how it used to be but it's probably going to be wilder than it is now. So if you don't learn to analyze more, maybe you will find it difficult to profit from trading. Only by continuing to learn can we adapt to market movements.

But you shouldn't worry too much because you can still benefit from market volatility. For this reason, we are required to have better analytical skills than before.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: hugeblack on August 28, 2023, 11:48:24 AM
I was also present for that period, and Bitcoin has settled in a price between $3,000 to $6,000 for a long time, so why is it happening now naturally if you take into account that we were at 16,000 levels several months ago and before that we were at levels of 30,000 for a period, including 20 A thousand again. The price can still regain an upward wave if we continue to stay above $26,000, and thus the door is still open to reach $40,000 before the end of the year. Over time, the volatility will decrease and the price will be more stable due to the high liquidity.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: tvplus006 on August 28, 2023, 04:06:23 PM
...What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same?? ..

This was the case earlier in the market, and always after such a lull, we saw an impulse exit from the flat. And you can be sure that this is exactly what will happen. That's just there is no certainty in which direction the momentum will be, so it's better to refrain from opening orders.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: bettercrypto on August 28, 2023, 04:10:11 PM
What do you mean? Since I entered this industry, there has been volatility in cryptocurrencies. Or maybe you mean that the volatility is more aggressive now compared to when it started in 2017. Is that what you mean?

So I don't see any problem with volatility, to be honest,  in fact, this is where any traders have the opportunity to buy or sell if they want to make a profit or sell to make a profit, and at the same time, with volatility, there are many losers and losses, especially if there is a lack of trading knowledge.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Dzwaafu11 on August 28, 2023, 04:40:02 PM
You don't need to worry about the current dump op, all you need to do in this season is to ensure you exercise patience in your holding so that you will not miss it when you start trading your coins in the market. I don't think this is the first time for crypto to dump in the market,

When the OP said he had been a trader for the past many years, I was surprised that he was now worrying about himself because of the current price of the market. I think bitcoin normally dumps and rises again, and investors have taken it as normal because we already believe that we will take any risk in our investment, so worrying about the current price is useless. As you said earlier, any investor who wants to gain a profit from his or her investment must have patience, as he needs his money back with even profits.

Besides, he said he is a trader, which by all means means a trader needs to take any risk that involves the fact that trading has a higher risk than investment either. However, maybe the reason the OP is worried is that he may have gone and invested the amount he could not afford to lose, and he saw that the price did not go up again. That's why he is worried, and by all means, I’m expecting a trader to be the one that can even endure the risk of crypto investment because they are doing the most high-risk thing in the crypto space.

So hopefully the price of bitcoin will go higher than the current one because, as you can see, early this year, the price of bitcoin was at $30k and came back to $29k; now it is at $26k, which means that this is just like something permanent happening in the market of cryptocurrencies that will continuously happen. All we need to do is continue holding our investments, and for those who wish to buy now when the time to sell comes, there is no need to even tell someone we are going to do that.
 


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on August 28, 2023, 05:25:18 PM
What do you mean? Since I entered this industry, there has been volatility in cryptocurrencies. Or maybe you mean that the volatility is more aggressive now compared to when it started in 2017. Is that what you mean?

So I don't see any problem with volatility, to be honest,  in fact, this is where any traders have the opportunity to buy or sell if they want to make a profit or sell to make a profit, and at the same time, with volatility, there are many losers and losses, especially if there is a lack of trading knowledge.

I meant what i said. There is no volatility like 2017 anymore. BTC used to move 10-20% in a week and it used to happen almost 3 weeks in a month. and now it hardly moves in a month. you might not see it as a problem, it was just a basic narrative that BTC has changed its wave length. there are less liquidity grabs ofcourse which leads to less people loosing money. but at the same time there is less movement in price.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on August 28, 2023, 05:35:41 PM
You don't need to worry about the current dump op, all you need to do in this season is to ensure you exercise patience in your holding so that you will not miss it when you start trading your coins in the market. I don't think this is the first time for crypto to dump in the market,

When the OP said he had been a trader for the past many years, I was surprised that he was now worrying about himself because of the current price of the market. I think bitcoin normally dumps and rises again, and investors have taken it as normal because we already believe that we will take any risk in our investment, so worrying about the current price is useless. As you said earlier, any investor who wants to gain a profit from his or her investment must have patience, as he needs his money back with even profits.

Besides, he said he is a trader, which by all means means a trader needs to take any risk that involves the fact that trading has a higher risk than investment either. However, maybe the reason the OP is worried is that he may have gone and invested the amount he could not afford to lose, and he saw that the price did not go up again. That's why he is worried, and by all means, I’m expecting a trader to be the one that can even endure the risk of crypto investment because they are doing the most high-risk thing in the crypto space.

So hopefully the price of bitcoin will go higher than the current one because, as you can see, early this year, the price of bitcoin was at $30k and came back to $29k; now it is at $26k, which means that this is just like something permanent happening in the market of cryptocurrencies that will continuously happen. All we need to do is continue holding our investments, and for those who wish to buy now when the time to sell comes, there is no need to even tell someone we are going to do that.
 
Buddy i dont mean whatever you said. All i meant was there is no volatility anymore and i asked if you all felt too. There is no mention of any of my position or any of my trade emotion. whatever you said really made no sense for me. pump dump and whatever really, from 29 to 26. do you even consider 10% a dump in crypto ? no i dont. so dont worry about my position and my emotions. you might be a senior member on the forum here but as far as i can read your comment i believe i have far enough better knowledge n risk management than you ;) no hard feelings


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Hamza2424 on August 28, 2023, 05:43:40 PM
On the shorter time frame, I can agree with you that the volatility seems like disappeared and the market looks stable, and in traders' emotions, it's like a boring timeline haha. The crypto market is fully out of track on the volatility At that point I think the market is more volatile as compared to history. A few days back I was reading a few glass node analyses and decreasing on-chain activity indicating the same thing.

I think we are feeling it like that can have another reason as the zone we are going through is always boring throughout the lifeline of Bitcoin this pressured accumulation zone. The maximum of the Bitcoin supply from the on-chain activity seems Illiquid and because the most of supply is on hold market is behaving like that, As soon as more liquid supply is in the market again we will explore the volatile market aspect.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Wapfika on August 28, 2023, 05:49:40 PM
What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??[/i][/b]
The trading volume and the amount of liquidity is the answer to your question. There’s a higher demand now comapred before while the liquidity on the order book is much thicker that makes sell and buy order doesn’t result to a much volatile market compared before.

The existence of institutional traders that holds huge amount of crypto assets in exchange to their fiat money that is now injected on exchange liquidity makes the crypto trading less volatile. You will experience same liquidity as before if this whales removes there existing open order and start to take profit.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on August 28, 2023, 06:33:31 PM
On the shorter time frame, I can agree with you that the volatility seems like disappeared and the market looks stable, and in traders' emotions, it's like a boring timeline haha. The crypto market is fully out of track on the volatility At that point I think the market is more volatile as compared to history. A few days back I was reading a few glass node analyses and decreasing on-chain activity indicating the same thing.

I think we are feeling it like that can have another reason as the zone we are going through is always boring throughout the lifeline of Bitcoin this pressured accumulation zone. The maximum of the Bitcoin supply from the on-chain activity seems Illiquid and because the most of supply is on hold market is behaving like that, As soon as more liquid supply is in the market again we will explore the volatile market aspect.
As far as the best reply i got here. so lets wait n watch in coming months. hope the fun begins soon :)


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: MusaMohamed on August 29, 2023, 02:23:16 AM
Market has volatility that is good for people who can take advantage of high volatility to get profit but it is nightmare for people who are greed when not needed and get loss when market moves very volatile.

As Warren Buffet said, "Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful." in his letter to the Shareholders of Berkshire Hathaway Inc. in 1986 (https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1986.html), you have two options to be smart or stupid investor. You decide what you do but the market does not care about you and what you do. It simply moves in its way and with manipulations from market makers, you can get profit or loss in the market and it totally depends on you.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: GreatArkansas on August 29, 2023, 03:15:17 AM
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What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
It's still the same for me, I think our volume right now on the market is really the reason why we are still volatile, it's still low.
It's like the same behavior during a bear market or bull market.

Just in case the bull market starts, it will behave the same especially when parabolic 2017-2018, the time we breached $19,00 which became an all-time high.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on August 29, 2023, 05:26:24 AM
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What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
It's still the same for me, I think our volume right now on the market is really the reason why we are still volatile, it's still low.
It's like the same behavior during a bear market or bull market.

Just in case the bull market starts, it will behave the same especially when parabolic 2017-2018, the time we breached $19,00 which became an all-time high.
well we gotta understand that chances of parabolic moves decreased when bitcoin becomes more n more popular. And i agree with you that its the same like any other bear run. but even in the past the markets moved little bit. now you see the charts there is hardly 1-2% in full week or a month. and suddenly just 1 day comes and it changes 10% but before it used to make moves 3-8% on daily basis..


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: SharonC on August 29, 2023, 06:09:34 AM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??

Usual thing. It'll start growing in the autumn-winter. So, stay calm and hold


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: slaman29 on August 29, 2023, 08:06:49 AM
I don't remember exactly but 2017 itself was sideways for the early part in most alts before the ATH, and then 2018 also in between.

It's definitely true that volatility index is lower year by year though on BTC alone. Heck, bottom to ATH distance is smaller and smaller.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: KingsDen on August 29, 2023, 08:42:03 AM
I am not a day trader. So I am not so much bothered about the volatility of Bitcoin. I agree with you that the price is not volatile and there is no good movement that will give profit in the market this time around especially when you are trading the Bitcoin pair. But I remember some years ago, there was a time that the movement was almost stable. But everything turned around, there is no volatility in the market now, but this should not be the worst in the history of Bitcoin. Something similar has happened in the past. It is a very strong build-up to a long-term bull run, so we should be able to manage the situation now.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Sim_card on August 29, 2023, 09:56:57 AM
At those years that you have mentioned 2015,there was no high level of inflation in the world. After covid 19 pandemic, the inflation increase and hit the world economy. The war between Russia and Ukraine is also ongoing,and all this is making inflation to increase,leading to low liquidity in the crypto market. The price that dropped was base on low circulation of funds. The price will pump again and don't worry too much,instead see this as an opportunity for you to accumulate more bitcoin and wait for the bull run to make good profit. It is certain that by the end of this year we will see bitcoin price at 40k+.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: el kaka22 on August 29, 2023, 05:48:21 PM
I would guess that volatility is something people mistake in the crypto world and what it means. It means that "when" the price starts to move, it moves a lot and people think that it should move a lot right away, that is not how it happens and you shouldn't be expecting that. It does move, but when it moves, we talk about something that would be a little different and we need to be a lot more careful with it without a trouble.

I think it should be important to make sure that we are doing a good job with it and it shouldn't really matter all that much. Just realize that volatility will happen when the market is moving, when the market is not moving like right now, why would it have any volatility at all?


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: MFahad on August 29, 2023, 05:50:28 PM
If anyone know about the ending and Initiation of volatility then everyone will be a successful trader and they will never see any difficulty in getting profit. Previously there was volatility in price too but it is a fact that when hard time passed then people forget about it.

If one think about past then he will realized that how bad the year of 2021 and 2022 was. Now the price remains at lower price of 26k$ for longer time but its not the time of having worry but it's time to take the benefit of this event as every event possess advantages if person utilze his knowledge.

This is not a new thing but remember that after every hard time there comes a good time so focus on the market very soon it will recover back.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: stomachgrowls on August 29, 2023, 06:53:53 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??

Past things arent guarantee that it would really be happening in the future on which means that if there's something that we do able to observe in the past, then it cant really be avoided for you not to think that it could

potentially happen in the future and we do know that whenever we do make out some similarities like patterns or behavior on the present time then we do always love on making some attachment on what happened in the past but in overall i do really agree basing up on what you have observed that when it comes to moving sideways or consolidation period on which it does really take up some time comparing in the past where movements
or really have those significant movement and the having a short pause and then it cycles once again on which it is really that totally different on what we are seeing now.

This is why its always been that suggested that you should really be making yourself that able to be versatile on whatever the market would really be doing or behaving. Its not bad to correlate
those past events into the future but always mindful that the market is always that random and totally unpredictable on which you do have already the idea at least.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on August 30, 2023, 06:23:09 AM
...What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same?? ..

This was the case earlier in the market, and always after such a lull, we saw an impulse exit from the flat. And you can be sure that this is exactly what will happen. That's just there is no certainty in which direction the momentum will be, so it's better to refrain from opening orders.
Exactly so it does happen often and we should be ready for even a bigger move with time now.


Now, it is different from a few years ago, when crypto has become increasingly popular and has attracted more people to use crypto for trading. That is what makes the movement or volatility of the crypto market unpredictable. I feel the same way when I see what's going on in the market, especially since the current market conditions have more coins to trade, making it difficult to analyze the coins.

And when the market gets to what it is now, it's not likely to go back to how it used to be but it's probably going to be wilder than it is now. So if you don't learn to analyze more, maybe you will find it difficult to profit from trading. Only by continuing to learn can we adapt to market movements.

But you shouldn't worry too much because you can still benefit from market volatility. For this reason, we are required to have better analytical skills than before.
So what do you suggest how to enhance our analytical skills ?? maybe share some thoughts with the users here ? we all up for learning even after all these years. True its better to learn more n more in the market so lets come out with few thoughts in how to deal with such markets.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: jeraldskie11 on August 30, 2023, 11:15:59 AM
I don't remember exactly but 2017 itself was sideways for the early part in most alts before the ATH, and then 2018 also in between.

It's definitely true that volatility index is lower year by year though on BTC alone. Heck, bottom to ATH distance is smaller and smaller.
It's normal for Bitcoin and to any alts that before an impulsive up move of price the price will accumulate. That is what I have noticed in the market. When the market is in consolidation stage, there is an equal amount of buyers and sellers, in other words the market is indecision. We should expect that there are institutions are watching for a break to determine who is in control. If the market breaks the resistance, institutions will immediately enter the market which can cause the price increase even more, others are just waiting for the pull back. If we look back at the chart of Bitcoin, we can tell that we are in the accumulation stage which is the best time to invest.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: irhact on August 30, 2023, 02:52:03 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Have you ever thought about individuals been tired of trading the market knowing fully well that whatever they predict mightn't be how the market will turn out because we're in a bear market and they have just decided to hold instead of trying to trade. Maybe the traders are now joining the investors in accumulating bitcoin and preparing for the bull market there by staying away from the market and making it less active as you have noticed.

Each bear market comes with experience and the individual that have witness how bear market are won't fall victim again as they'll be more aware of what's happening and prepare for the dumps by selling their cryptocurency to stablecoin and wait for the market to recover.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: AakZaki on August 30, 2023, 09:28:45 PM
In the past it was even lower than now. The current volatility when compared with the past is certainly quite far.
You may just be panicking about the decline in crypto over the last few months. You need to remember that now is the right moment to start logging in and holding until the latest ATH is reached. The halving will happen soon, so what do you need to worry about anymore. The journey of crypto continues to improve, we are only consolidating to get rid of the cowards in the crypto market. See later how the holder of the diamond hand will enjoy the benefits. The volatility will rise again and even at the worst times, you just need to be patient.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: goaldigger on August 30, 2023, 09:45:44 PM
I don't remember exactly but 2017 itself was sideways for the early part in most alts before the ATH, and then 2018 also in between.

It's definitely true that volatility index is lower year by year though on BTC alone. Heck, bottom to ATH distance is smaller and smaller.
The volatility might differ based on the current trend and as we can see right now, its very volatile because we are on a downtrend.
The market is getting more volatile actually and becoming more unpredictable, anything can happen and if  you are not doing anything to address such volatility then you might lose the opportunity to make profit. This is beyond our control, what we can do is to make a strategy that can work with the volatile market.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Johnyz on August 30, 2023, 09:50:28 PM
I don't remember exactly but 2017 itself was sideways for the early part in most alts before the ATH, and then 2018 also in between.

It's definitely true that volatility index is lower year by year though on BTC alone. Heck, bottom to ATH distance is smaller and smaller.
The volatility might differ based on the current trend and as we can see right now, its very volatile because we are on a downtrend.
The market is getting more volatile actually and becoming more unpredictable, anything can happen and if  you are not doing anything to address such volatility then you might lose the opportunity to make profit. This is beyond our control, what we can do is to make a strategy that can work with the volatile market.
That’s true, the volatility right now are just like the previous trend, as we can see the price drops instantly from $29k to $26k and now it pumps again to the level of $27k in just a Month, so its a volatile trend. Dealing with the volatility might be more risky when you do trading, so better to have a good system about this and know when to timing the market, you can be more profitable if you will not chase the market.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Oilacris on August 30, 2023, 09:51:37 PM
I don't remember exactly but 2017 itself was sideways for the early part in most alts before the ATH, and then 2018 also in between.

It's definitely true that volatility index is lower year by year though on BTC alone. Heck, bottom to ATH distance is smaller and smaller.
The volatility might differ based on the current trend and as we can see right now, its very volatile because we are on a downtrend.
The market is getting more volatile actually and becoming more unpredictable, anything can happen and if  you are not doing anything to address such volatility then you might lose the opportunity to make profit. This is beyond our control, what we can do is to make a strategy that can work with the volatile market.
I agree with those others sentiments above that those things happened in the past wont really be a guarantee that it would really happen in the future on which means that it would really be that basically
be that truly depending on several factors on which it would really be entirely be neither be positive or negative on certain conditions. It did really just turns out that volatility behavior do really differ on these years knowing that application and recognition is really that been accepted by some institutions on which on the time that it would really be making out some movements or decisions then
it do really create out that kind significant effect when it come to price movement.

Thing here is that you do really know on how to ride with the waves and wont really be freaking out and heavily relying on things that you have seen in the past. We know that future things
doesnt always follow on what things that we do have in the past but there's always a correlation somewhat and this is what we are trying out to follow.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: slaman29 on August 31, 2023, 08:13:56 AM
I don't remember exactly but 2017 itself was sideways for the early part in most alts before the ATH, and then 2018 also in between.

It's definitely true that volatility index is lower year by year though on BTC alone. Heck, bottom to ATH distance is smaller and smaller.
I agree with those others sentiments above that those things happened in the past wont really be a guarantee that it would really happen in the future on which means that it would really be that basically
be that truly depending on several factors on which it would really be entirely be neither be positive or negative on certain conditions. It did really just turns out that volatility behavior do really differ on these years knowing that application and recognition is really that been accepted by some institutions on which on the time that it would really be making out some movements or decisions then
it do really create out that kind significant effect when it come to price movement.

Thing here is that you do really know on how to ride with the waves and wont really be freaking out and heavily relying on things that you have seen in the past. We know that future things
doesnt always follow on what things that we do have in the past but there's always a correlation somewhat and this is what we are trying out to follow.

That was kinda actually what I was trying to say, the wisdom from markets is clear that past performance not only is not a guarantee of future performance, it is not even an indication of future performance.

However, we can see a trend of volatility which I believe is more of a behavior from assets that are new and slowly maturing whereby volatility slowly comes down. Bitcoin still volatile but nowhere near the degree of in the early years. This is not performance :)


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: bitgolden on August 31, 2023, 05:02:31 PM
It's normal for Bitcoin and to any alts that before an impulsive up move of price the price will accumulate. That is what I have noticed in the market. When the market is in consolidation stage, there is an equal amount of buyers and sellers, in other words the market is indecision. We should expect that there are institutions are watching for a break to determine who is in control. If the market breaks the resistance, institutions will immediately enter the market which can cause the price increase even more, others are just waiting for the pull back. If we look back at the chart of Bitcoin, we can tell that we are in the accumulation stage which is the best time to invest.
I would guess that some of them are traders, not buyers or sellers. I think it could be literally same people who bought and sold the same day, because they want to trade and that's how it happens. I know that some people think that it is all just people who buy and people who sell for a good amount of time, but it is not, there are plenty of them who just trade and 50%+ of it must be trading because we can't have billions in trading every single day, the difference would have been bigger.

I hope that we get bigger volume though, the volatility will be important but volume is even more important, it will make you a lot of profit without a doubt. It should realize that you are going to end up with a great profit when volume goes bigger.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: tjtonmoy on August 31, 2023, 05:36:23 PM
Things will change more in the future. Bitcoin has created quite a reputation over the decades. As it is getting more adopted all over the world, people are looking for stability in the market in order to use it as a method of payment. A volatile market is not that good when you are trying to use it like a regular currency. Also, there are more people who are now strong hodler. They own a good amount of BTC and they are not willing to sell. Volatility occurs when buying and selling happen rapidly.

As most people are now becoming aware of the benefits of hodling, they are not selling and there aren't any major news that can influence people to make decisions. So yeah, the market is changing as the people are changing too. We may see an entirely different market in the upcoming years.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Lorence.xD on August 31, 2023, 05:45:20 PM
I don't remember exactly but 2017 itself was sideways for the early part in most alts before the ATH, and then 2018 also in between.

It's definitely true that volatility index is lower year by year though on BTC alone. Heck, bottom to ATH distance is smaller and smaller.
The volatility might differ based on the current trend and as we can see right now, its very volatile because we are on a downtrend.
The market is getting more volatile actually and becoming more unpredictable, anything can happen and if  you are not doing anything to address such volatility then you might lose the opportunity to make profit. This is beyond our control, what we can do is to make a strategy that can work with the volatile market.

Exactly, that's the point of it's volatility we can't actually predict it since it's too random which already happened in the past. If you were trading for a long time for sure you would be aware of this kind of situation of the market. All we can do about it is to have a way to take advantage of it's current volatility cause it might be manipulated by some groups or institution that causes the huge changes in the market but for now they might be doing the same. As Bitcoin's known for it's potential for sure a lot of people are already holding their BTC which causes the market to stabilized for a long run because all of people might be doing all the same, waiting for the hype, trend or news that can change the current market. There's nothing we could do about it, situation really changes as time goes by.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: DeathAngel on August 31, 2023, 07:33:57 PM
I’ve been around a long time & I don’t think volatility in bitcoin is going anywhere any time soon. We are in the transition between bear & bull market right now so it’s relatively boring & big swings in price in either direction are not happening but that’s normal. Spot bitcoin ETF’s are coming & also the halving, the volatility you seek will return.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: lixer on August 31, 2023, 08:33:00 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
Fluctuations occur when either there is a lot of demand or there is a lot of supply. When the demand is high and supply is low, the price fluctuates on the positive side which means it will increase, and when the demand is low and supply is high, the price tends to drop significantly over time. That is the basic reason for Bitcoin's stability these days, not a lot of people are willing to buy and a lot of people are not selling as well, so the equation is almost the same from both sides.

If a lot of people start investing all of a sudden, we will surely see the price going up, and if a lot of people start selling at the same time, we will see the market plunge even more, that is how the market works. However, we can always make use of the opportunities we get to buy more as long as we can.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Mahanton on August 31, 2023, 08:43:20 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
Fluctuations occur when either there is a lot of demand or there is a lot of supply. When the demand is high and supply is low, the price fluctuates on the positive side which means it will increase, and when the demand is low and supply is high, the price tends to drop significantly over time. That is the basic reason for Bitcoin's stability these days, not a lot of people are willing to buy and a lot of people are not selling as well, so the equation is almost the same from both sides.

If a lot of people start investing all of a sudden, we will surely see the price going up, and if a lot of people start selling at the same time, we will see the market plunge even more, that is how the market works. However, we can always make use of the opportunities we get to buy more as long as we can.
Its always pertains about on that simple economics kind of subject which everything would really be varying on the supply and demand thing if we do speak about value or numbers/worth.Just like on what most people been saying that past things could really be that possibly be experienced on the upcoming future but there's no solid proof into that.Thing here is that we do have that so-called market cycle on which it would really be that
people would be keeping an eye on such situation or condition since we do already have the experience it on previous ones on which it did really give out the idea on how it do moves or behaves into that particular moments.To those people who had made out such bad move or decisions will really be normally be making out adjustments accordingly.

Experience would be always be the best weapon that you could have in order to survive this unpredictable space on which you would really be that needing to have that kind of versatility on whatever things that
you would really be facing on. We do know that the market is really that unpredictable and there's no way that we could really be able to know on whats ahead but somewhat due to past
experiences then we do have at least the idea on what we should gonna do.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 01, 2023, 12:46:46 AM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
Fluctuations occur when either there is a lot of demand or there is a lot of supply. When the demand is high and supply is low, the price fluctuates on the positive side which means it will increase, and when the demand is low and supply is high, the price tends to drop significantly over time. That is the basic reason for Bitcoin's stability these days, not a lot of people are willing to buy and a lot of people are not selling as well, so the equation is almost the same from both sides.

If a lot of people start investing all of a sudden, we will surely see the price going up, and if a lot of people start selling at the same time, we will see the market plunge even more, that is how the market works. However, we can always make use of the opportunities we get to buy more as long as we can.
Its always pertains about on that simple economics kind of subject which everything would really be varying on the supply and demand thing if we do speak about value or numbers/worth.Just like on what most people been saying that past things could really be that possibly be experienced on the upcoming future but there's no solid proof into that.Thing here is that we do have that so-called market cycle on which it would really be that
people would be keeping an eye on such situation or condition since we do already have the experience it on previous ones on which it did really give out the idea on how it do moves or behaves into that particular moments.To those people who had made out such bad move or decisions will really be normally be making out adjustments accordingly.

Experience would be always be the best weapon that you could have in order to survive this unpredictable space on which you would really be that needing to have that kind of versatility on whatever things that
you would really be facing on. We do know that the market is really that unpredictable and there's no way that we could really be able to know on whats ahead but somewhat due to past
experiences then we do have at least the idea on what we should gonna do.
Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: justdimin on September 02, 2023, 09:23:03 AM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
Fluctuations occur when either there is a lot of demand or there is a lot of supply. When the demand is high and supply is low, the price fluctuates on the positive side which means it will increase, and when the demand is low and supply is high, the price tends to drop significantly over time. That is the basic reason for Bitcoin's stability these days, not a lot of people are willing to buy and a lot of people are not selling as well, so the equation is almost the same from both sides.

If a lot of people start investing all of a sudden, we will surely see the price going up, and if a lot of people start selling at the same time, we will see the market plunge even more, that is how the market works. However, we can always make use of the opportunities we get to buy more as long as we can.
Right now we are on the dull moments of bitcoin, this has happened before, go check 2016 and 2019 and you will see the similarities, sort of the same thing with about right now as well. When the crash happens, one year after that is about the same, and right now we are living about the same period as well.

I think this is quite similar to something like 2019 where it will not have a lot of moves, and it will be calm period and then we are going to do better for sure. I think it should be important to remember that it is not an easy thing to move bitcoin and it happens when it needs to be and rest of the time it doesn't move that much. We will see it go up, and volatility will be there, we just need to wait for it.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Minecache on September 02, 2023, 09:41:09 AM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
Fluctuations occur when either there is a lot of demand or there is a lot of supply. When the demand is high and supply is low, the price fluctuates on the positive side which means it will increase, and when the demand is low and supply is high, the price tends to drop significantly over time. That is the basic reason for Bitcoin's stability these days, not a lot of people are willing to buy and a lot of people are not selling as well, so the equation is almost the same from both sides.

If a lot of people start investing all of a sudden, we will surely see the price going up, and if a lot of people start selling at the same time, we will see the market plunge even more, that is how the market works. However, we can always make use of the opportunities we get to buy more as long as we can.
Right now we are on the dull moments of bitcoin, this has happened before, go check 2016 and 2019 and you will see the similarities, sort of the same thing with about right now as well. When the crash happens, one year after that is about the same, and right now we are living about the same period as well.

I think this is quite similar to something like 2019 where it will not have a lot of moves, and it will be calm period and then we are going to do better for sure. I think it should be important to remember that it is not an easy thing to move bitcoin and it happens when it needs to be and rest of the time it doesn't move that much. We will see it go up, and volatility will be there, we just need to wait for it.

I don't remember every detail in 2019 but if you say the market is repeating what happened in 2019, does that mean we still have a chance that bitcoin will be dumped again? Do you remember? In 2019 bitcoin recovered to $12k but then in 2020 before the halving it was also dumped and dropped to $4k, and the reason is due to the Covid pandemic. If history continues to repeat itself, will we suffer another round of dumping? Will another black swan hit the market?


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 02, 2023, 12:23:12 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
Fluctuations occur when either there is a lot of demand or there is a lot of supply. When the demand is high and supply is low, the price fluctuates on the positive side which means it will increase, and when the demand is low and supply is high, the price tends to drop significantly over time. That is the basic reason for Bitcoin's stability these days, not a lot of people are willing to buy and a lot of people are not selling as well, so the equation is almost the same from both sides.

If a lot of people start investing all of a sudden, we will surely see the price going up, and if a lot of people start selling at the same time, we will see the market plunge even more, that is how the market works. However, we can always make use of the opportunities we get to buy more as long as we can.
Right now we are on the dull moments of bitcoin, this has happened before, go check 2016 and 2019 and you will see the similarities, sort of the same thing with about right now as well. When the crash happens, one year after that is about the same, and right now we are living about the same period as well.

I think this is quite similar to something like 2019 where it will not have a lot of moves, and it will be calm period and then we are going to do better for sure. I think it should be important to remember that it is not an easy thing to move bitcoin and it happens when it needs to be and rest of the time it doesn't move that much. We will see it go up, and volatility will be there, we just need to wait for it.

I don't remember every detail in 2019 but if you say the market is repeating what happened in 2019, does that mean we still have a chance that bitcoin will be dumped again? Do you remember? In 2019 bitcoin recovered to $12k but then in 2020 before the halving it was also dumped and dropped to $4k, and the reason is due to the Covid pandemic. If history continues to repeat itself, will we suffer another round of dumping? Will another black swan hit the market?
Probably because there is very less liquidity right now to goback up to 70k. to reach that level there needs to be a crash which will be again bought back and start the bull run. thats my opinion, anything can happen in the market though


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: cute nmp on September 02, 2023, 02:26:15 PM
Think it is normal for such scenario to happen, If you look at both the Fx market and the stock market ,A pair can consolidates for months before moving in a direction ,Same case is happening in the crypto - market right now .The Money flowing is not much to generate a drastic move these days causing those consolidations for days or weeks.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Hypnosis00 on September 02, 2023, 02:28:18 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??

It looks different now and it was more on the manipulating side making the market less volatile than before. And why? We also think that new investors and traders have different market approaches and so these old investors have also changed their behavior as they are more focused on controlling themselves, unlike the old times.
I believe that everyone can notice the different market movements by now compared before but because we are not very certain about every change, we just thought that it was the same scenario. Sooner or later, the more it becomes less volatile, IMO.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Richkiedx on September 02, 2023, 03:02:52 PM
Nothing new in crypto its very volatile since i start trading
 

I will not trade when the market is really very volatile because your analysis is useless when the whales are moving, which means big players who often fight against the market


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: teosanru on September 02, 2023, 03:58:30 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??

I really think it was pretty much the same case back in 2017 as well. Also one thing to keep in mind is that bigger the consolidation is the bigger the move also becomes. So there is a big possibility that you might see a much larger move the next time. Also volatility isn't that important of a parameter, volumes is, and if you see Jan and Feb 2023 were highest volume months for bitcoin.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Ziskinberg on September 02, 2023, 09:21:59 PM
Nothing new in crypto its very volatile since i start trading
 

I will not trade when the market is really very volatile because your analysis is useless when the whales are moving, which means big players who often fight against the market

But some people including OP want to have a highly volatile market because every movement of the price is very important especially if you are a scalper. I understand how important it was if you were doing this knowing that every fall/rise seems to be a great opportunity for us to earn. If the market is less volatile, it is difficult and you probably need to stay in the computer for the whole day waiting for the price to move. I say that most traders wanted to see the market like before where the up/down works so fast which is currently slowed down.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Mahanton on September 02, 2023, 09:35:14 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
Fluctuations occur when either there is a lot of demand or there is a lot of supply. When the demand is high and supply is low, the price fluctuates on the positive side which means it will increase, and when the demand is low and supply is high, the price tends to drop significantly over time. That is the basic reason for Bitcoin's stability these days, not a lot of people are willing to buy and a lot of people are not selling as well, so the equation is almost the same from both sides.

If a lot of people start investing all of a sudden, we will surely see the price going up, and if a lot of people start selling at the same time, we will see the market plunge even more, that is how the market works. However, we can always make use of the opportunities we get to buy more as long as we can.
Its always pertains about on that simple economics kind of subject which everything would really be varying on the supply and demand thing if we do speak about value or numbers/worth.Just like on what most people been saying that past things could really be that possibly be experienced on the upcoming future but there's no solid proof into that.Thing here is that we do have that so-called market cycle on which it would really be that
people would be keeping an eye on such situation or condition since we do already have the experience it on previous ones on which it did really give out the idea on how it do moves or behaves into that particular moments.To those people who had made out such bad move or decisions will really be normally be making out adjustments accordingly.

Experience would be always be the best weapon that you could have in order to survive this unpredictable space on which you would really be that needing to have that kind of versatility on whatever things that
you would really be facing on. We do know that the market is really that unpredictable and there's no way that we could really be able to know on whats ahead but somewhat due to past
experiences then we do have at least the idea on what we should gonna do.
Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
But we know that there are people or traders specially noob ones would really be in a hurry in speaking about making profits or income with trading and this is why they would really be forgetting the basic principle or on
how things should really be done. Market is really that volatile and it do involves highs and downs on which it would really be just that normal that as a trader then you should really know on what are the basic principles on dealing with a market which is a buy cheap and sell high which would generate profit. Yes, it does sounds simple but its not something that someone could easily pull off on a short time, it would really be involving
tons of trial and errors and specific period of time on which you could really be able to deal with things specially on a volatile market. Dont make yourself that believe that what happened in the past will happen in the future.Yes, you could really be having the reference but doesnt mean that you would be totally rely on it on what would happen in the future. Always be versatile and always be that having kind of behavior on which you could easily make out some adjustments if ever there would really be changes that you might encounter along the way. It is really just that depending on how you would really be gonna handling yourself.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: poodle63 on September 02, 2023, 11:55:00 PM
i guess bitcoin just simply stabilizing nowadays, the fact that the price swing isn't also very common these days also become my concern initially then I remember that bitcoin has come long way.

I think nowadays instead of waiting the volatility to occur its better to allocate some of the money to invest instead, investing is quite effective nowadays, even with altcoins in general.
waiting for volatility might just waste our time after all as you said its getting lower and lower rate of volatility.
bitcoin movement so far is quite slow, even if there's correction it will come back to its previous point again, remember when space x tries to dump their assets, it quite literally have no effect for long term.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: gunhell16 on September 03, 2023, 03:53:29 AM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??


Based on my personal observations, when there is a good news update in crypto today, suddenly there will be a pump in Bitcoin. When there is negative news in cryptocurrency, its value will dump in the market. In short, when this is the case, the use of technical analysis will be irrelevant or useless.

It also means that it is very difficult to read the volatility that is happening right now in the price of Bitcoin. Right now, the only good strategy I can see when the price drops is to take advantage and buy, then just hold. The resistance is also difficult to read; it seems that the tools will not be useful to make money because that is what happens in the market.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: adaseb on September 03, 2023, 04:05:26 AM
So we had record low volatility and then after the GBTC news we finally broke up and pumped hard, only to stall and head back down before the pump.

It was nothing but a fake move. And most likely the sideways trading action will continue. When we head towards the end of September we will see more volatility and October and November will reveal what type of action we will have whether it’s bullish or bearish. 


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Minecache on September 03, 2023, 03:05:18 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??
Fluctuations occur when either there is a lot of demand or there is a lot of supply. When the demand is high and supply is low, the price fluctuates on the positive side which means it will increase, and when the demand is low and supply is high, the price tends to drop significantly over time. That is the basic reason for Bitcoin's stability these days, not a lot of people are willing to buy and a lot of people are not selling as well, so the equation is almost the same from both sides.

If a lot of people start investing all of a sudden, we will surely see the price going up, and if a lot of people start selling at the same time, we will see the market plunge even more, that is how the market works. However, we can always make use of the opportunities we get to buy more as long as we can.
Right now we are on the dull moments of bitcoin, this has happened before, go check 2016 and 2019 and you will see the similarities, sort of the same thing with about right now as well. When the crash happens, one year after that is about the same, and right now we are living about the same period as well.

I think this is quite similar to something like 2019 where it will not have a lot of moves, and it will be calm period and then we are going to do better for sure. I think it should be important to remember that it is not an easy thing to move bitcoin and it happens when it needs to be and rest of the time it doesn't move that much. We will see it go up, and volatility will be there, we just need to wait for it.

I don't remember every detail in 2019 but if you say the market is repeating what happened in 2019, does that mean we still have a chance that bitcoin will be dumped again? Do you remember? In 2019 bitcoin recovered to $12k but then in 2020 before the halving it was also dumped and dropped to $4k, and the reason is due to the Covid pandemic. If history continues to repeat itself, will we suffer another round of dumping? Will another black swan hit the market?
Probably because there is very less liquidity right now to goback up to 70k. to reach that level there needs to be a crash which will be again bought back and start the bull run. thats my opinion, anything can happen in the market though
No one can predict what will happen in the future, but if we believe history will continue to repeat itself then we need to plan for that bad scenario should it happen. I'm not sure if that will happen again, but I wouldn't rule it out either. That means the market will continue to move sideways and create a prolonged period of boredom, and will be followed by massive dumping to knock the last weak hands out of the market before we welcome the bull season. That's the scenario I'm thinking of, IMO.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: taufik123 on September 03, 2023, 03:50:18 PM
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That means the market will continue to move sideways and create a prolonged period of boredom, and will be followed by massive dumping to knock the last weak hands out of the market before we welcome the bull season. That's the scenario I'm thinking of, IMO.
It's a scheme that keeps happening, starting with bearish, big dumps that will throw out the short-term holders and those who are just panicky people.
and new holders will come in and have more confidence in their investments.

A sideway and very boring market will drive them out on its own, so there will be fewer people who are not in line.
Crypto volatility will always be there, it's still on hold now of course and this volatility will get crazier when the Halving happens and there is a lot of News for Bitcoin and crypto.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: GigaBit on September 03, 2023, 03:58:17 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??


Based on my personal observations, when there is a good news update in crypto today, suddenly there will be a pump in Bitcoin. When there is negative news in cryptocurrency, its value will dump in the market. In short, when this is the case, the use of technical analysis will be irrelevant or useless.

It also means that it is very difficult to read the volatility that is happening right now in the price of Bitcoin. Right now, the only good strategy I can see when the price drops is to take advantage and buy, then just hold. The resistance is also difficult to read; it seems that the tools will not be useful to make money because that is what happens in the market.
It's true that investors are quite tricky these days. The market does not move the way it used to in the past. A massive change in investors that has been observed between the earlier and the present period. Because of which there has been a huge change in the volatility of the crypto market. One of the main attractions of the crypto market is its volatility. Some believe that since it is staying in a stable price soon we are going to see a bullish move in the crypto market that has not been seen in the past, despite the recent stagnation in its price.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: TheUltraElite on September 04, 2023, 05:59:34 AM
Periods of stagnation in the market are common as is swings. Observe the long term charts and you will realise that the yearly volatility is usually under 15% and thus I would not compare the market to be that volatile that it can be said to be non-volatile now. It rather remains in its own movement that is often exaggerated as too high or too low.

Overall I think the stagnant market will be a good time to buy at the low since it's much lower than all time highs. But a trader should keep both cash and Bitcoin at hand to face the upcoming bull or near market respectively. If the market remains stagnant, just observe and wait it out.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 04, 2023, 02:25:02 PM
Periods of stagnation in the market are common as is swings. Observe the long term charts and you will realise that the yearly volatility is usually under 15% and thus I would not compare the market to be that volatile that it can be said to be non-volatile now. It rather remains in its own movement that is often exaggerated as too high or too low.

Overall I think the stagnant market will be a good time to buy at the low since it's much lower than all time highs. But a trader should keep both cash and Bitcoin at hand to face the upcoming bull or near market respectively. If the market remains stagnant, just observe and wait it out.
Look out for crypto vix and you will see it can be said as non-volatile for now. thats the thing this kind of market is boring for scalpers n intraday traders. only investors and swing traders can work in this kind of market.


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That means the market will continue to move sideways and create a prolonged period of boredom, and will be followed by massive dumping to knock the last weak hands out of the market before we welcome the bull season. That's the scenario I'm thinking of, IMO.
It's a scheme that keeps happening, starting with bearish, big dumps that will throw out the short-term holders and those who are just panicky people.
and new holders will come in and have more confidence in their investments.

A sideway and very boring market will drive them out on its own, so there will be fewer people who are not in line.
Crypto volatility will always be there, it's still on hold now of course and this volatility will get crazier when the Halving happens and there is a lot of News for Bitcoin and crypto.
ofcourse it keeps happening. but this time they are moving things very slow. if you look out for the whole year, we are in the 9th month and we have probably seen 4 or 5 moves only. be it upwards or downward, only 4-5 moves in 9 months is like pretty boring and non-volatile. Thats the only main cause of this discussion that whats making the market go so slow.

So we had record low volatility and then after the GBTC news we finally broke up and pumped hard, only to stall and head back down before the pump.

It was nothing but a fake move. And most likely the sideways trading action will continue. When we head towards the end of September we will see more volatility and October and November will reveal what type of action we will have whether it’s bullish or bearish. 
yea true and thats what major guys here are saying that let summers end we will definately see good moves, so just patiently watching the market for now with few small positions.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: nurilham on September 04, 2023, 08:57:24 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.
What do you mean by low volatility? If you check the price of each crypto coin, it is still far from its ATH. Bitcoin: -62% from its ATH, ETH: -66%, BNB: -68%, XRP: -85%, ADA: -92%, EOS: -97%. LUNC: -100%. These are some examples of the crypto prices now, they are still trying to grow and come back to its ATH. If you count their best price and the current price, there is still too high gap. That's mean the volatility is very high, right? So, it doesn't makes sense if you judge there is a low of volatility in the market.

If the price of some crypto coins still consolidate or take a sideway phase for few months, that's because they follow the Bitcoin price trend. You must realize that the price of Bitcoin seems a bit slow to rise. After BTC price passed $30k few months ago, it dropped again below $30k because of some FUDs. It is difficult to return to above $30k because it is still many bad news spreading. So, we must understand if it is rather slow to move.

I think this situation also happened in past, right?



Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 04, 2023, 09:47:35 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.
What do you mean by low volatility? If you check the price of each crypto coin, it is still far from its ATH. Bitcoin: -62% from its ATH, ETH: -66%, BNB: -68%, XRP: -85%, ADA: -92%, EOS: -97%. LUNC: -100%. These are some examples of the crypto prices now, they are still trying to grow and come back to its ATH. If you count their best price and the current price, there is still too high gap. That's mean the volatility is very high, right? So, it doesn't makes sense if you judge there is a low of volatility in the market.

If the price of some crypto coins still consolidate or take a sideway phase for few months, that's because they follow the Bitcoin price trend. You must realize that the price of Bitcoin seems a bit slow to rise. After BTC price passed $30k few months ago, it dropped again below $30k because of some FUDs. It is difficult to return to above $30k because it is still many bad news spreading. So, we must understand if it is rather slow to move.

I think this situation also happened in past, right?


current price from the ATH has no link with volatility. you are saying BTC is -62% from the highs, because in a broader frame btc moves like this from always. high volatility is daily moves. in a single day candle btc used to turn 10% very frequently before. now it doesnt even more 1% on a daily candle. which is borind n bad for daily traders and scalpers. You ask any scalper if he is interested in this kind of market and he will always deny. -62% from ATH relates nothing here. it dropped 30% in just a single day when bear market started. that kind of volatility is missing these days. thats what i mean here


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: taufik123 on September 04, 2023, 11:05:24 PM
]ofcourse it keeps happening. but this time they are moving things very slow. if you look out for the whole year, we are in the 9th month and we have probably seen 4 or 5 moves only. be it upwards or downward, only 4-5 moves in 9 months is like pretty boring and non-volatile. Thats the only main cause of this discussion that whats making the market go so slow.
This is a period of consolidation that will make Bitcoin stronger with increasing volume.
We will see the peak next year during the halving and after the halving occurs, because at that moment everyone starts to believe and re-enter.

The last few months have been quite boring and Bitcoin was only able to rise to the $30k price area and is currently still holding above $25k.
and Hopefully, it doesn't break the $25k support because that determines whether bitcoin will continue to rise or drop below $20k again.

Organizing a strategy to be able to survive when the market consolidates like now will make us more confident to hold long-term.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Mahanton on September 04, 2023, 11:37:13 PM
]ofcourse it keeps happening. but this time they are moving things very slow. if you look out for the whole year, we are in the 9th month and we have probably seen 4 or 5 moves only. be it upwards or downward, only 4-5 moves in 9 months is like pretty boring and non-volatile. Thats the only main cause of this discussion that whats making the market go so slow.
This is a period of consolidation that will make Bitcoin stronger with increasing volume.
We will see the peak next year during the halving and after the halving occurs, because at that moment everyone starts to believe and re-enter.

The last few months have been quite boring and Bitcoin was only able to rise to the $30k price area and is currently still holding above $25k.
and Hopefully, it doesn't break the $25k support because that determines whether bitcoin will continue to rise or drop below $20k again.

Organizing a strategy to be able to survive when the market consolidates like now will make us more confident to hold long-term.
They should realize and trying out to compare on what are the prices or value that we do have now comparing on last years which we arent that blind on not to see about those gradual increase and showing up some
recovery.Although it is really just that normal that we would really be seeing tons of ups and downs which it is really just that default on this market. We cant really just have that one long green candle because this is really just that a newbie approach towards the price.We've been here on this market for how many years and to those who had been sitting around do already knows on how it do behaves. Volatility is the most common thing that we are facing on this market on which this is the sole reason on why we are making profits out of those movements which it would really be that depending on how you would be able to go with the flow.
Market is always been volatile and trying out to oppose on such movement will really be resulting into losses. You should really be that wise and would really be that smart in regarding with your entry and exits because this is the primary thing that you would really be concern about.Market we do have now have that year cycles on which its expected that there would be bearish and bullish sentiment and consolidation period on which you would be facing on.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 05, 2023, 07:52:48 AM
]ofcourse it keeps happening. but this time they are moving things very slow. if you look out for the whole year, we are in the 9th month and we have probably seen 4 or 5 moves only. be it upwards or downward, only 4-5 moves in 9 months is like pretty boring and non-volatile. Thats the only main cause of this discussion that whats making the market go so slow.
This is a period of consolidation that will make Bitcoin stronger with increasing volume.
We will see the peak next year during the halving and after the halving occurs, because at that moment everyone starts to believe and re-enter.

The last few months have been quite boring and Bitcoin was only able to rise to the $30k price area and is currently still holding above $25k.
and Hopefully, it doesn't break the $25k support because that determines whether bitcoin will continue to rise or drop below $20k again.

Organizing a strategy to be able to survive when the market consolidates like now will make us more confident to hold long-term.
everyone agrees on the fact that this is consolidation period going on. which is very normal in bear market but all this discussion is about how slow the market has become in these days. we have seen consolidation in 2015 and 2019 too but things were not this slow back then. one of the trader said it was even worse in 2015 which i can agree on because i was not looking at the market back then. the trends for bitcoin price is not the concern here, only the daily movement or weekly movement is too slow.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: IvugeoEvolutionCoin on September 05, 2023, 12:55:16 PM
Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
Some small mistakes during trading lead to big problems, so we have to be careful while trading so that we don't have to risk our money for taking any wrong decisions. But making money by trading is as easy as it is difficult.  It will be very easy for those who understand the trade to earn money by trading. And those who do not understand will always put their money at risk. So if we think of trading, we can choose some good coins and trade.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 05, 2023, 04:23:00 PM
Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
Some small mistakes during trading lead to big problems, so we have to be careful while trading so that we don't have to risk our money for taking any wrong decisions. But making money by trading is as easy as it is difficult.  It will be very easy for those who understand the trade to earn money by trading. And those who do not understand will always put their money at risk. So if we think of trading, we can choose some good coins and trade.
we all had that phase when trading felt like the biggest task and eventually with time and experience it becomes easy. market these days is really tough for intraday traders and scalpers.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: taufik123 on September 05, 2023, 04:31:51 PM
everyone agrees on the fact that this is consolidation period going on. which is very normal in bear market but all this discussion is about how slow the market has become in these days. we have seen consolidation in 2015 and 2019 too but things were not this slow back then. one of the trader said it was even worse in 2015 which i can agree on because i was not looking at the market back then. the trends for bitcoin price is not the concern here, only the daily movement or weekly movement is too slow.
Talking about the current slowdown of the crypto market is certainly due to many factors, such as the interest of investors to enter and some manipulations done by whales.

Saying it's worse than the previous year, it's just a matter of time. Seeing that the bitcoin trend is still sideways and continues to consolidate, the big bullrun will arrive when the Halving occurs.

That's what everyone is looking forward to the most, now it's just necessary to buy and hold and enjoy the benefits later.
I don't look at daily or weekly movements, I focus more on the long-term.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 05, 2023, 05:01:59 PM
everyone agrees on the fact that this is consolidation period going on. which is very normal in bear market but all this discussion is about how slow the market has become in these days. we have seen consolidation in 2015 and 2019 too but things were not this slow back then. one of the trader said it was even worse in 2015 which i can agree on because i was not looking at the market back then. the trends for bitcoin price is not the concern here, only the daily movement or weekly movement is too slow.
Talking about the current slowdown of the crypto market is certainly due to many factors, such as the interest of investors to enter and some manipulations done by whales.

Saying it's worse than the previous year, it's just a matter of time. Seeing that the bitcoin trend is still sideways and continues to consolidate, the big bullrun will arrive when the Halving occurs.

That's what everyone is looking forward to the most, now it's just necessary to buy and hold and enjoy the benefits later.
I don't look at daily or weekly movements, I focus more on the long-term.
well then this kind of market is exactly for investors like you. on the other hand market also has day traders and scalpers who are frustrated right now because of market slow down. long term investors would handle any kind of market as far as they are not buying the top and selling at the bottom.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: bitgolden on September 05, 2023, 05:19:32 PM
Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
Some small mistakes during trading lead to big problems, so we have to be careful while trading so that we don't have to risk our money for taking any wrong decisions. But making money by trading is as easy as it is difficult.  It will be very easy for those who understand the trade to earn money by trading. And those who do not understand will always put their money at risk. So if we think of trading, we can choose some good coins and trade.
I think it's easy if you know what you are doing, but reaching that level is the hardest part, it may take as much as years before people could reach that level. Obviously people do have better chances of making a profit if they have been doing trading in other assets for some years and then come to bitcoin and start trading here, those people could start making profit quicker, but if you have never traded before then it will take some time.

I do agree that it should be something to  care about, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up wit ha good result that quickly, it will definitely take some time to make some profit, it should be something to care about without a doubt. Think about it, and you will agree too.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: taufik123 on September 05, 2023, 06:29:42 PM
well then this kind of market is exactly for investors like you. on the other hand market also has day traders and scalpers who are frustrated right now because of market slow down. long term investors would handle any kind of market as far as they are not buying the top and selling at the bottom.
It's perfect, because I also do DCA every week to keep adding to my assets and sell all three ATH targets.
Day traders who do not have sufficient knowledge and unstable emotional control will be more at risk.

That's the result of fast market movements for day traders.
I just need to relax for the long term, not to look at the chart continuously.

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I do agree that it should be something to care about, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with a good result that quickly, it will definitely take some time to make some profit, it should be something to care about without a doubt. Think about it, and you will agree too.
Good results in a short time cannot be done easily, it takes a good learning of technical and fundamental analysis.
Profits can be made in any way, trading fast, or long-term investment.
The most important thing is not to hesitate, or panic, and to have a good strategy to apply.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Oilacris on September 05, 2023, 07:59:21 PM
Totally agree to your statements, markets will remain the way they are but the experience we have while trading makes a huge difference. Our role is just to utilize our experience in the right manner. Accept the mistakes we make while trading and learn from those mistakes and turn them over into profitable trades. exactly the best n only weapon a trader has its experience.
Some small mistakes during trading lead to big problems, so we have to be careful while trading so that we don't have to risk our money for taking any wrong decisions. But making money by trading is as easy as it is difficult.  It will be very easy for those who understand the trade to earn money by trading. And those who do not understand will always put their money at risk. So if we think of trading, we can choose some good coins and trade.
I think it's easy if you know what you are doing, but reaching that level is the hardest part, it may take as much as years before people could reach that level. Obviously people do have better chances of making a profit if they have been doing trading in other assets for some years and then come to bitcoin and start trading here, those people could start making profit quicker, but if you have never traded before then it will take some time.

I do agree that it should be something to  care about, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up wit ha good result that quickly, it will definitely take some time to make some profit, it should be something to care about without a doubt. Think about it, and you will agree too.
The important thing on here is that you shouldn't really be rushing up yourself on reaching out on a state which it cant be reached out on short time and with few experiences. Those people who are doing good are once newbies too and now and due to sufficient experience and knowledge then this is where they do make themselves to be that sustainable despite of this market volatility. It all matters about the knowledge you do have getting those things out of real experience which it did really involve some time and tons of trials and errors.

Market volatility is always been random or ever since this market had started on which there's no way on knowing on where prices could end up and shoot up or dump down. This what makes
traders do really challenged on how to know about those probable movements on which the price might able to reach on or would be going. Every year would really be having that corresponding movement which it might really be getting in line or would really be that the same on last years movements or not.It would really be entirely be depending on the market movement
which includes demand and recognition and some mix of manipulative acts.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Peanutswar on September 06, 2023, 08:41:28 AM
We know it depends on the demand of bitcoin. During that hype of the bitcoin, many people wanted to have this instead, so there's price action and the market so such volatile,, unlike this day after the ATH, people get take profit and lay low with their earnings and of course they know the possibility with this coming halving the graph already proved the history itself that every halving coming price goes down. People nows mindset is to wait for this and grab the buying opportunity at the lowest point.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: welshhana on September 06, 2023, 12:08:21 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??

nothing happened. It's bear market, wait till bull


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: justdimin on September 06, 2023, 04:58:11 PM
Periods of stagnation in the market are common as is swings. Observe the long term charts and you will realise that the yearly volatility is usually under 15% and thus I would not compare the market to be that volatile that it can be said to be non-volatile now. It rather remains in its own movement that is often exaggerated as too high or too low.

Overall I think the stagnant market will be a good time to buy at the low since it's much lower than all time highs. But a trader should keep both cash and Bitcoin at hand to face the upcoming bull or near market respectively. If the market remains stagnant, just observe and wait it out.
The fact that we are not volatile this year doesn't mean we weren't last year or won't be next year neither. The thing about volatility is that it happens time to time and that is why it should be considered different from other stuff. We should be considering this as a thing that needs to be something that changes one way or another and should be a bigger deal.

I hope that it could get to a point where we could just end up with a good result if we just put our mind into it. This is why volatility should not be expected at all moments, and I agree that stagnation is the most regular and common thing we can see on this market, it just happens all the time and should be normal and expected without a doubt.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 09, 2023, 06:55:18 AM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??

nothing happened. It's bear market, wait till bull
please read the above comments. its not that easy thing to say :)


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Huppercase on September 09, 2023, 07:39:52 AM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??


It's not a big deal, this has happened countless times, nobody want to lose both the bears and the bulls, everyone is taking caution to avoid been liquidated. If you observe carefully, you will notice that when the market is idle for about a week without any tangible moves, you will see a sudden spike upward  especially when the price stays above the support for some while and when the price shut up a candle, after sometime again, it will get nuke and shutdown another red candle to come back and sit in the previous support; this happened a lot of times when traders want to liquidate one another when there is not any news.

What I think about this low volatility is uncerntainty, when the bulls and the bears are unsure of the next news that will come out for bitcoin, the market tends to always behave like that for a while even upto weeks without any significant moves; I believe if there is good news or bad news, the market knows how to make moves naturally without forcing it to move.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on September 09, 2023, 08:40:54 AM
Personally, I think low volatility simply means that there is a significant reduction in trading volume, and this is very understanding when we consider the fact that we are in a bear market, coupled with the fact that Bitcoin has become a really expensive coin to buy for those who do not have very much money to invest, so those tiny monies are now shifting to some altcoins rather than Bitcoin like it always has been in the previous years, we can confirm this by the declining market dominance of Bitcoin, Ethereum and some other major altcoins..

With uncertainty in the entire crypto market currently, alot of people are either keeping their money in stable coins waiting for market to show some upward strength before they go in again, or they are shifting their investments to altcoins .

One thing certain after all is that, high volatility will return back to the market as soon as Bitcoin starts showing some positive signs of going up again .


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: irhact on September 09, 2023, 09:07:37 PM
Personally, I think low volatility simply means that there is a significant reduction in trading volume, and this is very understanding when we consider the fact that we are in a bear market, coupled with the fact that Bitcoin has become a really expensive coin to buy for those who do not have very much money to invest, so those tiny monies are now shifting to some altcoins rather than Bitcoin like it always has been in the previous years, we can confirm this by the declining market dominance of Bitcoin, Ethereum and some other major altcoins..

Low volatility means there's low trading activities going on and this isn't just in the Bitcoin but also in altcoin market because all cryptocurency are getting affected by the bear market and not just the Bitcoin market. Altcoins are losing value more than Bitcoin therefore I don't think people are gaining more trust in altcoins by shifting their investment over there, bitcoin dominance is also increasing as more people are selling their altcoins to buy Bitcoin.

Bitcoin halving is coming so Bitcoin is gaining more popularity than altcoins, after the halving of Bitcoin reward and during the period everyone is assuming that the bull market will start people will start shifting attention to altcoins and that's so they can profit from altcoin.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 10, 2023, 11:04:10 AM
Personally, I think low volatility simply means that there is a significant reduction in trading volume, and this is very understanding when we consider the fact that we are in a bear market, coupled with the fact that Bitcoin has become a really expensive coin to buy for those who do not have very much money to invest, so those tiny monies are now shifting to some altcoins rather than Bitcoin like it always has been in the previous years, we can confirm this by the declining market dominance of Bitcoin, Ethereum and some other major altcoins..

With uncertainty in the entire crypto market currently, alot of people are either keeping their money in stable coins waiting for market to show some upward strength before they go in again, or they are shifting their investments to altcoins .

One thing certain after all is that, high volatility will return back to the market as soon as Bitcoin starts showing some positive signs of going up again .
yea could be one more reason. price action has always taken a huge part in trading volume. in the last bear market bitcoin was ranging between 3000-6000 and now if u see its almost 5x from that position. higher price can be one of the major reason of low volatility.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Altryist on September 10, 2023, 12:23:00 PM
Low volatility means there's low trading activities going on and this isn't just in the Bitcoin but also in altcoin market because all cryptocurency are getting affected by the bear market and not just the Bitcoin market. Altcoins are losing value more than Bitcoin therefore I don't think people are gaining more trust in altcoins by shifting their investment over there, bitcoin dominance is also increasing as more people are selling their altcoins to buy Bitcoin.

Bitcoin halving is coming so Bitcoin is gaining more popularity than altcoins, after the halving of Bitcoin reward and during the period everyone is assuming that the bull market will start people will start shifting attention to altcoins and that's so they can profit from altcoin.
It’s very strange to hear that now someone is selling their altcoins, what’s the point? If the idea is to sell altcoins and buy bitcoin, then this is also not the best idea now, as for altcoins, then we just need to wait for the altseason, I think that we will still have to wait out the fall and winter, and during this time altcoins may well lose 20 -30% in price. The bear market this year for altcoins is merciless, but perhaps those who are more patient will be able to make a good profit in the bull market.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Pandu Geddon on September 10, 2023, 12:47:34 PM
Bitcoin halving is coming so Bitcoin is gaining more popularity than altcoins, after the halving of Bitcoin reward and during the period everyone is assuming that the bull market will start people will start shifting attention to altcoins and that's so they can profit from altcoin.

whether it happens to everyone or not, for those who are quite fanatical about Bitcoin, all they do is buy or trade Bitcoin in any market trend conditions.
Maybe in the past, some traders paid attention to the method you explained to get better profits. but now I just believe Bitcoin confidence is increasing and altcoins may be some to watch with a possible pump following the upcoming bull trend.

I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on September 10, 2023, 03:10:38 PM
I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.

With such a strategy, have you been increasing your holdings that way? It is not usually very profitable to trade Bitcoin in a position for a short-term profit; not that it's absolutely not profitable, but in some market situations, it's usually very difficult for you to make decisions that might cause you to sell at a loss, believing that the price will fall and you will buy back. But if it's been a working strategy for you, then you can continue, although having to use all your holdings to perform the trade is kind of risky. For example, if you have, say, 0.4 BTC, at least you can divide it and use half.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 12, 2023, 07:07:57 PM
I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.

With such a strategy, have you been increasing your holdings that way? It is not usually very profitable to trade Bitcoin in a position for a short-term profit; not that it's absolutely not profitable, but in some market situations, it's usually very difficult for you to make decisions that might cause you to sell at a loss, believing that the price will fall and you will buy back. But if it's been a working strategy for you, then you can continue, although having to use all your holdings to perform the trade is kind of risky. For example, if you have, say, 0.4 BTC, at least you can divide it and use half.
He basically meant he is holding up BTC and just keeping an eye for potential altcoins. Dont think he is a regular trader to catch market moves on a daily basis.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: milewilda on September 12, 2023, 07:15:51 PM
I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.

With such a strategy, have you been increasing your holdings that way? It is not usually very profitable to trade Bitcoin in a position for a short-term profit; not that it's absolutely not profitable, but in some market situations, it's usually very difficult for you to make decisions that might cause you to sell at a loss, believing that the price will fall and you will buy back. But if it's been a working strategy for you, then you can continue, although having to use all your holdings to perform the trade is kind of risky. For example, if you have, say, 0.4 BTC, at least you can divide it and use half.
He basically meant he is holding up BTC and just keeping an eye for potential altcoins. Dont think he is a regular trader to catch market moves on a daily basis.
Each person does have different approach or handling when it comes into their portfolio on which this would really be the ff;

1. Having long term bags and accumulating Bitcoin solely
2. Having long term bag on BTC but making some partitions on making short trades on BTC
3. Long term/Moonbag hold of Alts
4. Short term trading with alts

Its always advisable that you should have at least that available funds which in case the market would really be making out some dumping movement then you could really be easily
be able to accumulate or having the chance on buying cheap and this would really be a huge advantage i should say compared to those who do have limited funds
but of course not everyone does have that kind of financial capability and this is the reason on why we are missing tons of opportunities that this market gives
but well this is really just that part on what you would really be able to experience on this market.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 15, 2023, 03:46:42 PM
I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.

With such a strategy, have you been increasing your holdings that way? It is not usually very profitable to trade Bitcoin in a position for a short-term profit; not that it's absolutely not profitable, but in some market situations, it's usually very difficult for you to make decisions that might cause you to sell at a loss, believing that the price will fall and you will buy back. But if it's been a working strategy for you, then you can continue, although having to use all your holdings to perform the trade is kind of risky. For example, if you have, say, 0.4 BTC, at least you can divide it and use half.
He basically meant he is holding up BTC and just keeping an eye for potential altcoins. Dont think he is a regular trader to catch market moves on a daily basis.
Each person does have different approach or handling when it comes into their portfolio on which this would really be the ff;

1. Having long term bags and accumulating Bitcoin solely
2. Having long term bag on BTC but making some partitions on making short trades on BTC
3. Long term/Moonbag hold of Alts
4. Short term trading with alts

Its always advisable that you should have at least that available funds which in case the market would really be making out some dumping movement then you could really be easily
be able to accumulate or having the chance on buying cheap and this would really be a huge advantage i should say compared to those who do have limited funds
but of course not everyone does have that kind of financial capability and this is the reason on why we are missing tons of opportunities that this market gives
but well this is really just that part on what you would really be able to experience on this market.
Agreed on the facts. Long term bags for BTC and potential alt coins is the best strategy in the market. I initially started as an investor in BTC and trust me that was the major profit i made without any headaches.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Sayeds56 on September 15, 2023, 04:25:28 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??


Certainly, We all have witnessed decline in volatility within crypto currencies market, in particular when it comes to Bitcoin, which typically has a reputation for its extreme price swings. This decrease in price fluctuation can be explained by a variety of factors. One main contribution factor could be  involvement of financial institutions that has brought sense of maturity to the crypto currencies space. Additionally, regulatory bodies like SEC have also contributed to more stable environment. Furthermore, the prevailing market sentiment that seems to favor price consolidation, and external factors. such as the current condition of global economy can also exert influence on this trend.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: jossiel on September 16, 2023, 08:18:23 AM
Well, things are truly different this time.

Although there's still some glimpse of the past and trend and how the market moved but, things do change for the crypto market whether you're a trader, an investor or just a speculator.

And there is one thing for sure that we're going to see and that's another trend shall pass and people will be hyped again but what could that be?


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: irhact on September 16, 2023, 11:35:31 AM
Certainly, We all have witnessed decline in volatility within crypto currencies market, in particular when it comes to Bitcoin, which typically has a reputation for its extreme price swings. This decrease in price fluctuation can be explained by a variety of factors.

One factor that we should look at is the market condition. Everything you said has contributed to the poor market condition but the factor that has affected the market more is the bear market condition that we are experiencing. If this was the bull market, all the other factors won't have mattered because the market would had still been getting money flowing in and the market would be giving investors and traders profits bit that's not happening because most individuals are scared.

When we're in the bull market, everything will return to normal as it was in 2021, we shouldn't be scared that the market will stay like this forever. After bitcoin halving, we'll begin to see market volume rising up as many individual starts accumulating bitcoin for the bull market.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: HONDACD125 on September 16, 2023, 12:05:27 PM


Certainly, We all have witnessed decline in volatility within crypto currencies market, in particular when it comes to Bitcoin, which typically has a reputation for its extreme price swings. This decrease in price fluctuation can be explained by a variety of factors. One main contribution factor could be  involvement of financial institutions that has brought sense of maturity to the crypto currencies space. Additionally, regulatory bodies like SEC have also contributed to more stable environment. Furthermore, the prevailing market sentiment that seems to favor price consolidation, and external factors. such as the current condition of global economy can also exert influence on this trend.

You are right that the price of Bitcoin is feeling quite a boring position. The kind of volatility that Bitcoin is known for is quite invisible, but one thing that seems to be changing this time is that earlier if the price of Bitcoin fluctuated, it would have the same effect on the market. But this time if the price of Bitcoin goes down even a little bit. So the entire cryptocurrency market falls more, and if the price of Bitcoin rises significantly, all cryptos rise very little. Of course, there are various factors involved, the most influential of which is the dispute between the SEC and Binance


Also, external factors often affect the cryptocurrency market and any bad news can bring the market down. Apart from this, FTX has also been allowed by the court to sell its assets, which has put a lot of pressure on the cryptocurrency market and Bitcoin. Due to which there are risks of the market falling further. Well, the month of September has not been good for the cryptocurrency market from the beginning and often the market can fall here and a bearish trend can be seen. The FOMC meeting next week may also have an impact on the market. The Binance threat is not over yet and it may even create a market rumble. The SEC is claiming that Binance is not providing them with complete information,and this is affecting the market badly.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: nurilham on September 16, 2023, 12:52:05 PM
current price from the ATH has no link with volatility.
Why it has nothing to do with volatility? The volatility always has correlation with the price move.

https://www.binance.com/en/feed/post/1020057

high volatility is daily moves. in a single day candle btc used to turn 10% very frequently before. now it doesnt even more 1% on a daily candle.
Not everyday the price can have high volatility, sometimes there is sideways period. During this period, the price seems moving very slowly. It is what happening today.

which is borind n bad for daily traders and scalpers. You ask any scalper if he is interested in this kind of market and he will always deny.
If it looks difficult to take profits daily, why not stop it temporarily. We mustn't force ourselves to trade daily if the condition seems not very suitable for day trading.

-62% from ATH relates nothing here. it dropped 30% in just a single day when bear market started. that kind of volatility is missing these days. thats what i mean here
Do you think Bitcoin should be easily to drop around 30% in a single day during the bearish season? I don't think so. Drop around 30% is quite high, it should rarely happen. There must be a big news to trigger the price drop significantly. TBH, I expect there will no drop around 30% again until the next bullrun season.



Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Pandu Geddon on September 16, 2023, 02:14:56 PM
I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.

With such a strategy, have you been increasing your holdings that way? It is not usually very profitable to trade Bitcoin in a position for a short-term profit; not that it's absolutely not profitable, but in some market situations, it's usually very difficult for you to make decisions that might cause you to sell at a loss, believing that the price will fall and you will buy back. But if it's been a working strategy for you, then you can continue, although having to use all your holdings to perform the trade is kind of risky. For example, if you have, say, 0.4 BTC, at least you can divide it and use half.

So far I have been quite successful in adding to the Bitcoin I hold. I actually have different allocations of Bitcoins that I hold and that I trade. for the ones I trade, I allocate a fixed amount. while I will withdraw the profits to a different wallet where I hold them.
Actually, I don't need to be afraid of the market situation, because I observe it. I'm not a day trader who has to push myself to make a profit. That doesn't mean I've never lost in trading. but I carefully choose the moment to trade.

I'm sure every trader or investor has their own approach when wanting to take a position. whether you want to buy or sell. I'm also not a professional trader. Sometimes I trade altcoins, but then again I prefer Bitcoin.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: gunhell16 on September 16, 2023, 04:18:46 PM
You know, regardless of what happened in the past and what is happening now, in my opinion, things are just going round and round. There is only innovation because of the technology that we are experiencing, so there is a change happening in the market regarding Bitcoin. I also think that we can no longer separate or remove the volatility of Bitcoin from the market because it is also the basis of trading for investors or holders so that they can also make money.

It's just that in these instances, the majority of the holders today are locked in positions due to the upcoming Bitcoin halving next year, and in just a few months, things will happen that for sure the community here does not expect. By the way, you know that Bitcoin is full of surprises.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Quidat on September 16, 2023, 09:59:19 PM
Well, things are truly different this time.

Although there's still some glimpse of the past and trend and how the market moved but, things do change for the crypto market whether you're a trader, an investor or just a speculator.

And there is one thing for sure that we're going to see and that's another trend shall pass and people will be hyped again but what could that be?
People would really be never be able to deny on what are those things that happened on previous years on which they would really be always a fan on trying to reflect out and trying to see if there are some patterns which they could possibly be able to make use.Volatility is never been predictable in the first place, we might be able to see some similarities but doesnt mean that it would definitely happen in the future.This is why people would really be continuing on trying out to mix analysis basing up on fundamentals+ technical just for them to be able to have at least the idea on where prices could possibly be hit up.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Out of mind on September 17, 2023, 01:31:59 AM
Since you are an old investor and have a lot of experience about your market. When you trade and invest, you know how profitable it will be, and you have a good idea of when the bear market will start. When you started trading, all the markets including Bitcoin were very volatile and dumping. You don't have to worry now that the market was dumping because it's already pumping more than ever and will change more in the future. As you are an old investor, and you need to be patient enough, you can trade profitably and earn profits. When you invest from bear market, you must wait till bull market and be patient so that you can get good profit from it.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: jossiel on September 17, 2023, 06:24:32 PM
Well, things are truly different this time.

Although there's still some glimpse of the past and trend and how the market moved but, things do change for the crypto market whether you're a trader, an investor or just a speculator.

And there is one thing for sure that we're going to see and that's another trend shall pass and people will be hyped again but what could that be?
People would really be never be able to deny on what are those things that happened on previous years on which they would really be always a fan on trying to reflect out and trying to see if there are some patterns which they could possibly be able to make use.Volatility is never been predictable in the first place, we might be able to see some similarities but doesnt mean that it would definitely happen in the future.This is why people would really be continuing on trying out to mix analysis basing up on fundamentals+ technical just for them to be able to have at least the idea on where prices could possibly be hit up.
Combining that two gives everyone the idea on how the market will react.

But as said that many of them won't be as accurate as always even if you put them with a lot of it for so many times. And this market is all about that, test and mixtures of strategies.

Since no one can be against with volatility but you have to do your own thing for you to take advantage or go along with it.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Unbunplease on September 17, 2023, 07:12:59 PM
As a rule, a volatility contraction resembles a compressed spring. At any moment there can be a burst of activity and increased interest. The main thing is to be able to withstand the pause, and also try not to buy assets that have already increased in price. Decrease in volatility is also a period of careful preparation for active actions


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Yamifoud on September 17, 2023, 09:33:35 PM

It's just that in these instances, the majority of the holders today are locked in positions due to the upcoming Bitcoin halving next year, and in just a few months, things will happen that for sure the community here does not expect. By the way, you know that Bitcoin is full of surprises.
People had already learned how to hold, unlike before that is why the volatility trend has changed. But is see this gonna happen because people's mindsets and behaviors have gradually changed as well. Unfortunately, this is not good for day trading where they used to take benefit of the volatility of the market.  However, this is not the thing that makes us think that crypto has changed totally but in this time, it teaches us how to hold and become strong. Indeed, bull season will come but if we are impatient, selling can possibly done earlier.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: darewaller on September 19, 2023, 08:10:20 PM
Well, things are truly different this time.

Although there's still some glimpse of the past and trend and how the market moved but, things do change for the crypto market whether you're a trader, an investor or just a speculator.

And there is one thing for sure that we're going to see and that's another trend shall pass and people will be hyped again but what could that be?
As for me, I don't think there are many things that have changed. If it's about the volatility which seems low right now, I think this wasn't new but if I'm not mistaken, we already experienced the same scenario on the past. Maybe you guys only forget it, or some of you are not yet here in crypto. History does repeats itself and so as here in crypto.

This is why a lot of users are basing their analysis on it to possibly predict if what will be the value of cryptos later on. So many trends have already passed. Some are still there but they are not as hyped as before. Maybe some trends are obvious to occur but some are unexpected, and if what are those we shall only wait and see.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: milewilda on September 19, 2023, 09:30:51 PM
I personally just prepare my Bitcoins, and trade to increase the quantity of Bitcoins I have.

With such a strategy, have you been increasing your holdings that way? It is not usually very profitable to trade Bitcoin in a position for a short-term profit; not that it's absolutely not profitable, but in some market situations, it's usually very difficult for you to make decisions that might cause you to sell at a loss, believing that the price will fall and you will buy back. But if it's been a working strategy for you, then you can continue, although having to use all your holdings to perform the trade is kind of risky. For example, if you have, say, 0.4 BTC, at least you can divide it and use half.
He basically meant he is holding up BTC and just keeping an eye for potential altcoins. Dont think he is a regular trader to catch market moves on a daily basis.
Each person does have different approach or handling when it comes into their portfolio on which this would really be the ff;

1. Having long term bags and accumulating Bitcoin solely
2. Having long term bag on BTC but making some partitions on making short trades on BTC
3. Long term/Moonbag hold of Alts
4. Short term trading with alts

Its always advisable that you should have at least that available funds which in case the market would really be making out some dumping movement then you could really be easily
be able to accumulate or having the chance on buying cheap and this would really be a huge advantage i should say compared to those who do have limited funds
but of course not everyone does have that kind of financial capability and this is the reason on why we are missing tons of opportunities that this market gives
but well this is really just that part on what you would really be able to experience on this market.
Agreed on the facts. Long term bags for BTC and potential alt coins is the best strategy in the market. I initially started as an investor in BTC and trust me that was the major profit i made without any headaches.
Wont really be having those headaches as long you do able to make yourself that limiting that investment because we know that there's no such thing about guarantee if we do speak about investment because risks would always be lying out with this thing where possible crashes and pumps could happen depending on the market demand. We know that crypto market is really that volatile and it would really be just that right on having that good approach even though its speculative but it would be ideal that making up some analysis would be always be having the advantage. Always set Plan B's because if you do find yourself not prepared then you would definitely get shocked on how this market moves. Also, dont make yourself stick out into that basic principle about relying into those past events on trying out to reflect on what would happen in the future.Its not
something that would make out assurance that it would happen in the present or in the future. This is why it would be always ideal on making yourself that fully aware on things
so that you wont really be that disappointed if ever things go south.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: taufik123 on September 19, 2023, 11:07:11 PM
People had already learned how to hold, unlike before that is why the volatility trend has changed. But is see this gonna happen because people's mindsets and behaviors have gradually changed as well. Unfortunately, this is not good for day trading where they used to take benefit of the volatility of the market.  However, this is not the thing that makes us think that crypto has changed totally but in this time, it teaches us how to hold and become strong. Indeed, bull season will come but if we are impatient, selling can possibly done earlier.
Enduring and patiently holding on only applies to those who believe and are able to manage their emotions to achieve the ultimate goal at the price to be achieved.
See how the market is currently, experiencing a fairly long bearish period from Early August to September.

The price of bitcoin still continues to decline and makes some people panic will selling their holdings because they cannot stand or lack patience.

The bull season is just a matter of time and it will be owned by those who are able to survive the rigors of this bear market.
Having a reserve fund will give you the advantage to buy again.

We just need to prepare for the upcoming bull season, and collect more Bitcoin and altcoins that have potential in bullish times.
That will provide more and more benefits.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: blockman on September 19, 2023, 11:20:19 PM
Its not
something that would make out assurance that it would happen in the present or in the future. This is why it would be always ideal on making yourself that fully aware on things
so that you wont really be that disappointed if ever things go south.
As the volatility of the market will never change, I agree that just be aware of everything that happens in the market so that you're not putting something on your head that might even hurt you. Just think of these things as casually happening and if there are changes that will happen, they're all about the market's reaction to every situation that we're having. Things in the past few years might not be the same anymore but this is still the market that we used to live on and changes do come once in a while and we just have to like and live with it.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on September 20, 2023, 12:18:26 PM
So far I have been quite successful in adding to the Bitcoin I hold. I actually have different allocations of Bitcoins that I hold and that I trade. for the ones I trade, I allocate a fixed amount. while I will withdraw the profits to a different wallet where I hold them.
Actually, I don't need to be afraid of the market situation, because I observe it. I'm not a day trader who has to push myself to make a profit. That doesn't mean I've never lost in trading. but I carefully choose the moment to trade.

Do what works for you. I guess every trader or investor usually has a strategy that they believe works well for them. While I was trading, I mostly traded altcoin, although when I traded Bitcoin, it was just once and was futures trading. If I get back to futures trading and make some profit, I will still invest a lot of my profit into Bitcoin. For now, I am only bent on accumulating Bitcoin on a DCA strategy, even if the goal is not to sell in the next bull market. But in the future, more bull markets will come, and there is hope to sell at a high price and still make a profit.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: khiholangkang on September 20, 2023, 06:22:22 PM
Its not
something that would make out assurance that it would happen in the present or in the future. This is why it would be always ideal on making yourself that fully aware on things
so that you wont really be that disappointed if ever things go south.
As the volatility of the market will never change, I agree that just be aware of everything that happens in the market so that you're not putting something on your head that might even hurt you. Just think of these things as casually happening and if there are changes that will happen, they're all about the market's reaction to every situation that we're having. Things in the past few years might not be the same anymore but this is still the market that we used to live on and changes do come once in a while and we just have to like and live with it.
Yes, to be honest we are on the same line every season in every cycle, but what differentiates it is the pressure and events, talking about volatile markets in my opinion it is the same thing every cycle, there is not the slightest strangeness, if you look at the movement candles almost the same as the previous cycle or the signs suggest there are similarities, for example 2023 and 2019.

So far I have been quite successful in adding to the Bitcoin I hold. I actually have different allocations of Bitcoins that I hold and that I trade. for the ones I trade, I allocate a fixed amount. while I will withdraw the profits to a different wallet where I hold them.
Actually, I don't need to be afraid of the market situation, because I observe it. I'm not a day trader who has to push myself to make a profit. That doesn't mean I've never lost in trading. but I carefully choose the moment to trade.

Do what works for you. I guess every trader or investor usually has a strategy that they believe works well for them. While I was trading, I mostly traded altcoin, although when I traded Bitcoin, it was just once and was futures trading. If I get back to futures trading and make some profit, I will still invest a lot of my profit into Bitcoin. For now, I am only bent on accumulating Bitcoin on a DCA strategy, even if the goal is not to sell in the next bull market. But in the future, more bull markets will come, and there is hope to sell at a high price and still make a profit.
Everyone has their own way of trading, and it is true that everyone must have their own way of making a trading strategy, because this depends on a person's character and comfort in trading, whether in altcoins or bitcoin in market situations.
I want to give you a little advice, it's better to sell the bitcoin you have when a new ATH is formed, then what is certain to happen is that the bearish season will come again, so from the sales you can buy more bitcoin in the next bearish season, I think that is the smartest move to accumulate more bitcoins.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Bitcoin_people on September 21, 2023, 04:25:01 AM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??

2017 was a good bull market but 2018 was bearish and everything was slow. But now everything has changed and what was seen in the past is now seen and has changed completely. I can't say when the trend was the best but I like the current trend the best. Although 2018 was good but the volatility was less but now there is a lot of volatility that is why the old ones are not liking it. And people have lost a lot of interest due to this volatility but we should wait this year and be sure that the next bull market will come.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: rozak on September 21, 2023, 04:31:54 AM
2017 was a good bull market but 2018 was bearish and everything was slow. But now everything has changed and what was seen in the past is now seen and has changed completely. I can't say when the trend was the best but I like the current trend the best. Although 2018 was good but the volatility was less but now there is a lot of volatility that is why the old ones are not liking it. And people have lost a lot of interest due to this volatility but we should wait this year and be sure that the next bull market will come.
Some people actually like market situations with high volatility. especially those looking for short profits. Even though it is small, traders can use it in a rapidly changing market situation to make a profit.
On the other hand, when a decline occurs and the movement is quite slow, investors prefer to collect assets to prepare for when the bulls come. In any situation, I think everyone can look for benefits. it all depends on skills and understanding of the situation in the market. we can see that there is always an opportunity, but it is also accompanied by always a risk.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: awik p on September 21, 2023, 04:53:41 AM
2017 was a good bull market but 2018 was bearish and everything was slow. But now everything has changed and what was seen in the past is now seen and has changed completely. I can't say when the trend was the best but I like the current trend the best. Although 2018 was good but the volatility was less but now there is a lot of volatility that is why the old ones are not liking it. And people have lost a lot of interest due to this volatility but we should wait this year and be sure that the next bull market will come.
Some people actually like market situations with high volatility. especially those looking for short profits. Even though it is small, traders can use it in a rapidly changing market situation to make a profit.
On the other hand, when a decline occurs and the movement is quite slow, investors prefer to collect assets to prepare for when the bulls come. In any situation, I think everyone can look for benefits. it all depends on skills and understanding of the situation in the market. we can see that there is always an opportunity, but it is also accompanied by always a risk.
Therefore, there is a need for understanding in reading the market, so that high volatility can be faced calmly and ultimately lead to planned profits. The crypto market tends to fluctuate in price and for those who don't understand it, they will fall into defeat where haste and greed are the main obstacles in their defeat. During a bearish season like this time, it is better to collect lots of potential coins to hold onto until the bullish season comes


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: tygeade on September 21, 2023, 07:05:09 AM
Do what works for you. I guess every trader or investor usually has a strategy that they believe works well for them. While I was trading, I mostly traded altcoin, although when I traded Bitcoin, it was just once and was futures trading. If I get back to futures trading and make some profit, I will still invest a lot of my profit into Bitcoin. For now, I am only bent on accumulating Bitcoin on a DCA strategy, even if the goal is not to sell in the next bull market. But in the future, more bull markets will come, and there is hope to sell at a high price and still make a profit.
That is why it's so different from person to person when people use the same strategy. There are a lot of people who try to promote some strategy as the best, but they do not realize that its the best for them and its not the best in general. I feel like that should be pointed out very carefully. I know that you may end up finding something that would be important on the long run, but that doesn't mean that we are talking about something that would be different one way or another.

We should try to find something that would be best for us, and if we do, we should remember that it may not be the best for someone else and try to shut up about it. I am not saying do not share it, just do not claim that it is the best.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: fullhdpixel on September 21, 2023, 08:16:59 PM
Do what works for you. I guess every trader or investor usually has a strategy that they believe works well for them. While I was trading, I mostly traded altcoin, although when I traded Bitcoin, it was just once and was futures trading. If I get back to futures trading and make some profit, I will still invest a lot of my profit into Bitcoin. For now, I am only bent on accumulating Bitcoin on a DCA strategy, even if the goal is not to sell in the next bull market. But in the future, more bull markets will come, and there is hope to sell at a high price and still make a profit.
Are you seriously planning to accumulate Bitcoins now and hold them for a complete cycle and wait for the next bull run instead of the one that is about to come? That will take a lot of patience I must say, because a complete cycle means that you will keep holding through the bear market and then wait for the bull market to come, wouldn't it be better if you sell during the current bull run if the price goes significantly high and then buy again when the market crashes?

If I was accumulating Bitcoins through the DCA method right now when the market is relatively low, I would most probably sell them as high as I could during the bull run and then keep the stablecoins, wait for the bear market, and then buy again, who knows, I might get a better price then.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Fatunad on September 21, 2023, 08:40:19 PM
Do what works for you. I guess every trader or investor usually has a strategy that they believe works well for them. While I was trading, I mostly traded altcoin, although when I traded Bitcoin, it was just once and was futures trading. If I get back to futures trading and make some profit, I will still invest a lot of my profit into Bitcoin. For now, I am only bent on accumulating Bitcoin on a DCA strategy, even if the goal is not to sell in the next bull market. But in the future, more bull markets will come, and there is hope to sell at a high price and still make a profit.
Are you seriously planning to accumulate Bitcoins now and hold them for a complete cycle and wait for the next bull run instead of the one that is about to come? That will take a lot of patience I must say, because a complete cycle means that you will keep holding through the bear market and then wait for the bull market to come, wouldn't it be better if you sell during the current bull run if the price goes significantly high and then buy again when the market crashes?

If I was accumulating Bitcoins through the DCA method right now when the market is relatively low, I would most probably sell them as high as I could during the bull run and then keep the stablecoins, wait for the bear market, and then buy again, who knows, I might get a better price then.
Going yourself to pass on possible bull runs along the way would really be not so easy considering that we do have that selling point that we do have in mind on which it would really be just so normal on having
impressions on setting out those selling points or taking profit because not all would really be having the patience on holding for long term or would really be talking about preference because there are ones who do love to see profits for short term and we know that we do have that 4year cycle on this market where it involves bear and bull sentiments on which it would really be just that common sense on when is the right time to accumulate and when is the right time to sell out your coins for profits. Majority of us do come here for the profit and on not the actual utility of those coins or projects that you are investing or even with Bitcoin. We are all here for the profits and this is why we are really that mindful in regarding about market conditions or simply with the volatility.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Pingrapole on September 22, 2023, 02:00:07 PM
I think as far as I know before 2018 have been good days for Bitcoin since then I have heard that there has been a flurry of volatility, but I think the volatility will settle down in the year ahead.One difference I can see in the present day from earlier days is that it is now established but earlier it was not so established, but the volatility was less and now it is established so So volatility is high, and it is normal that big things will have big problems.I think the fun was there before, it is still there, just the context is different, before maybe it seems more investment-wise, the risk of an injury was less, but now the competition is a more investment, little less, but it is situation According to the general procedure. I think good times will come later this year and years to come if you wait a patiently.The day that is gone may not come back, but it can definitely come back in a new form. Why is the present today the past?.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: macson on September 22, 2023, 11:35:27 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??

compared to you, i'm still relatively new to the crypto world, i don't fully understand the movements of the crypto market in 2017 and 2018, but from various sources i read, in those years market manipulation occurred massively, pump - dump schemes were carried out a lot groups or token developers, apart from that bitcoin has really caught the world's attention so that people flock to buy it, this causes market demand for bitcoin to increase and the price is inevitable, in the future i'm not sure we will see a pump - dump scheme on altcoins but we will not be able to withstand bitcoin price volatility.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on September 23, 2023, 02:24:42 AM
So far I have been quite successful in adding to the Bitcoin I hold. I actually have different allocations of Bitcoins that I hold and that I trade. for the ones I trade, I allocate a fixed amount. while I will withdraw the profits to a different wallet where I hold them.
Actually, I don't need to be afraid of the market situation, because I observe it. I'm not a day trader who has to push myself to make a profit. That doesn't mean I've never lost in trading. but I carefully choose the moment to trade.

Do what works for you. I guess every trader or investor usually has a strategy that they believe works well for them. While I was trading, I mostly traded altcoin, although when I traded Bitcoin, it was just once and was futures trading. If I get back to futures trading and make some profit, I will still invest a lot of my profit into Bitcoin. For now, I am only bent on accumulating Bitcoin on a DCA strategy, even if the goal is not to sell in the next bull market. But in the future, more bull markets will come, and there is hope to sell at a high price and still make a profit.
Everyone has their own way of trading, and it is true that everyone must have their own way of making a trading strategy, because this depends on a person's character and comfort in trading, whether in altcoins or bitcoin in market situations.
I want to give you a little advice, it's better to sell the bitcoin you have when a new ATH is formed, then what is certain to happen is that the bearish season will come again, so from the sales you can buy more bitcoin in the next bearish season, I think that is the smartest move to accumulate more bitcoins.

How can you tell that any price you see during the bull market will be the ATH? No one knew that Bitcoin's last ATH would stop there, because since it was still in the bull market, there was still speculation for $100k back then. But yeah, your advice is a motive I have always had in mind: to sell when the market is very bullish and wait for the bear market to settle in again, then buy more Bitcoin. Definitely, the bear market must come after a bull market, but an investor would be more profitable if they sold at a high price, and one doesn't usually know where the price can end in every bull season.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: cute nmp on September 23, 2023, 07:19:51 AM
The crypto-market is no longer that volatile as before, There are alots of consolidations in the market these days .All market go through these phases including forex and stock markets at times. Think there is not enough buyers and sellers that can bring such big moves in the market these days, You can try scalping or day trading it you want to make consistent profits regularly.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: bayu7adi on September 23, 2023, 11:22:16 AM
The crypto-market is no longer that volatile as before, There are alots of consolidations in the market these days .All market go through these phases including forex and stock markets at times. Think there is not enough buyers and sellers that can bring such big moves in the market these days, You can try scalping or day trading it you want to make consistent profits regularly.

I believe the cryptocurrency market is currently in a stable condition, with no significant deviations from previous price movements. The volatility remains at a level that can be considered reasonable and manageable. Some recent news regarding The FED's stance on Bitcoin and interest rates has indeed influenced Bitcoin's price, but it's still within a normal range.

As for trading volume, it is true that some cryptocurrencies have experienced a decline. Market activity may pick up again when the Christmas and New Year holidays approach.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: khiholangkang on September 23, 2023, 05:18:26 PM
Do what works for you. I guess every trader or investor usually has a strategy that they believe works well for them. While I was trading, I mostly traded altcoin, although when I traded Bitcoin, it was just once and was futures trading. If I get back to futures trading and make some profit, I will still invest a lot of my profit into Bitcoin. For now, I am only bent on accumulating Bitcoin on a DCA strategy, even if the goal is not to sell in the next bull market. But in the future, more bull markets will come, and there is hope to sell at a high price and still make a profit.
Everyone has their own way of trading, and it is true that everyone must have their own way of making a trading strategy, because this depends on a person's character and comfort in trading, whether in altcoins or bitcoin in market situations.
I want to give you a little advice, it's better to sell the bitcoin you have when a new ATH is formed, then what is certain to happen is that the bearish season will come again, so from the sales you can buy more bitcoin in the next bearish season, I think that is the smartest move to accumulate more bitcoins.

How can you tell that any price you see during the bull market will be the ATH? No one knew that Bitcoin's last ATH would stop there, because since it was still in the bull market, there was still speculation for $100k back then. But yeah, your advice is a motive I have always had in mind: to sell when the market is very bullish and wait for the bear market to settle in again, then buy more Bitcoin. Definitely, the bear market must come after a bull market, but an investor would be more profitable if they sold at a high price, and one doesn't usually know where the price can end in every bull season.

If there is a purchase strategy, then you must also have a sales strategy, I also think with you that we have the potential to get more profit to get other high prices after the $ 100K target has been formed by Bitcoin, 1/2 or 1/3 Bitcoin You have when you reach that level you can sell it at that time, to keep your position safer, and the rest serves a higher price movement, maybe at $ 100k+ - $ 130k can be an alternative sales of more profit, as well as if it turns out before it reaches The remaining Bitcoin sales level target, you already have a profit in the first sales of $ 100K.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on September 23, 2023, 08:29:00 PM
If there is a purchase strategy, then you must also have a sales strategy, I also think with you that we have the potential to get more profit to get other high prices after the $ 100K target has been formed by Bitcoin, 1/2 or 1/3 Bitcoin You have when you reach that level you can sell it at that time, to keep your position safer, and the rest serves a higher price movement, maybe at $ 100k+ - $ 130k can be an alternative sales of more profit, as well as if it turns out before it reaches The remaining Bitcoin sales level target, you already have a profit in the first sales of $ 100K.

Well, yeah, as long as the investor has an investment strategy, they definitely should also have a good selling strategy, since during a bull market, no one can really tell what will be the all-time high. Your strategy is good, but for me, if the bull market comes now, it's obvious that it's too sudden and I will not quickly sell off; even if I do, it would not be more than 5% of my total asset. Already, if the bull market starts, my first selling target would not be

$100K; it's going to be at least around $120k or more, depending on how the price charge could be analyzed by then and whether there is a chance of going higher or not. Above all, selling one's total asset during the early phase of the bill market is not wise.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: khiholangkang on September 24, 2023, 12:17:13 PM
If there is a purchase strategy, then you must also have a sales strategy, I also think with you that we have the potential to get more profit to get other high prices after the $ 100K target has been formed by Bitcoin, 1/2 or 1/3 Bitcoin You have when you reach that level you can sell it at that time, to keep your position safer, and the rest serves a higher price movement, maybe at $ 100k+ - $ 130k can be an alternative sales of more profit, as well as if it turns out before it reaches The remaining Bitcoin sales level target, you already have a profit in the first sales of $ 100K.

Well, yeah, as long as the investor has an investment strategy, they definitely should also have a good selling strategy, since during a bull market, no one can really tell what will be the all-time high. Your strategy is good, but for me, if the bull market comes now, it's obvious that it's too sudden and I will not quickly sell off; even if I do, it would not be more than 5% of my total asset. Already, if the bull market starts, my first selling target would not be

$100K; it's going to be at least around $120k or more, depending on how the price charge could be analyzed by then and whether there is a chance of going higher or not. Above all, selling one's total asset during the early phase of the bill market is not wise.

As far as I have noticed, when the bull run season has several short periods of time, this means that volatility will also be present in a matter of weeks, so when selling at the start of the bull run of course it is too sudden and in a hurry, but it depends on the target and strategy each to make sales.
5%? I think you are experimenting.
If analyzed from now on, the movement of bitcoin to its peak will be more than $100k, this is a personal assumption, but I also found that many people also analyze the price of bitcoin with amounts that are not much different, but some patterns formed in the bullrun will easily change the results of the analysis which has been done today.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: cheezcarls on September 24, 2023, 01:25:33 PM
As of today we’re in a status quo as BTC is quiet in its price movement. Not even the 2024 BTC halving would guarantee that it would be a strong catalyst for the next bull run.

As I have remembered in the last halving, it would take a few months before BTC break it’s then-all time high and the momentum continued with Elon Musk skyrocketing it like crazy for up to almost $70k.

The possible catalysts that we’re eyeing on are the ones who applied for Bitcoin Spot ETFs that needs approval from the US SEC. Just my opinion.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: abel1337 on September 24, 2023, 03:11:25 PM
As of today we’re in a status quo as BTC is quiet in its price movement. Not even the 2024 BTC halving would guarantee that it would be a strong catalyst for the next bull run.

As I have remembered in the last halving, it would take a few months before BTC break it’s then-all time high and the momentum continued with Elon Musk skyrocketing it like crazy for up to almost $70k.

The possible catalysts that we’re eyeing on are the ones who applied for Bitcoin Spot ETFs that needs approval from the US SEC. Just my opinion.
I'm expecting the same thing in the next halving. I've saw this kind of pattern 2x already and it might be the same thing that will happen next year when halving happened. It would take months before we can see a massive rise on bitcoin price. Spot bitcoin ETF is one of the factors that I am thinking that could possibly contribute to a massive bitcoin price pump in short, the bull market for cryptocurrency. This is the current time that is I think the best time to buy bitcoin since we are on sideways for a long time now. Volatility is there but the peak volatility is I think will happen during the bull and bear market.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 26, 2023, 01:47:23 PM
In recent analysis i believe crypto is not moving because there is huge risk for option sellers. I read a comment on coindesk last week saying that the option selllers are manipulating the prices to their favour. The more stable market stays. the more money they make. All this makes sense now that why bitcoin hasnt been acting like it should. We can all have our own opinion why there is no volatility but i now have totally this approach because days pass by and price remains the same. In these kind of situation only the option sellers make money and i guess the market is totally manipulated by them.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Inwestour on September 26, 2023, 03:17:38 PM
I'm expecting the same thing in the next halving. I've saw this kind of pattern 2x already and it might be the same thing that will happen next year when halving happened. It would take months before we can see a massive rise on bitcoin price. Spot bitcoin ETF is one of the factors that I am thinking that could possibly contribute to a massive bitcoin price pump in short, the bull market for cryptocurrency. This is the current time that is I think the best time to buy bitcoin since we are on sideways for a long time now. Volatility is there but the peak volatility is I think will happen during the bull and bear market.
Such low volatility is normal for the summer period, sometimes it is observed in early autumn, and I agree that during periods of low volatility there is an accumulation of positions, so it is logical to assume that the next few years there may be good growth, and the long-awaited bull market.

Now is the time to buy Bitcoin, it's a really good time to do so, and I would make sure to have some savings if we see a significant drop that precedes the rise. I'm not saying that this will definitely happen, but if it does happen, it's better to be prepared for it.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: irhact on September 27, 2023, 11:32:48 AM
The crypto-market is no longer that volatile as before, There are alots of consolidations in the market these days .All market go through these phases including forex and stock markets at times. Think there is not enough buyers and sellers that can bring such big moves in the market these days, You can try scalping or day trading it you want to make consistent profits regularly.

The market is no longer volatile as before because we're in the bear market and alot of individual are no longer active in the market trading Bitcoin by buying or selling but they are holding because soon the halving date will near and those who didn't hold their bitcoin will be regretting while those individuals that didn't sell their Bitcoin but was holding will make profits. When the bear market is over and the bull market comes then you'll see the market back in its volatility.

Most individual in the crypto market are holding and there aren't many individual buying because alot of money has been lot in the market for the last past years and those with money are waiting for the market to finish dumping then starts pumping before they will buy.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Jocuserious on September 27, 2023, 03:17:52 PM
There are many questions among your complaints but i want to analyze very simply that before 2017 the crypto market was so slow and then the time was ico and the crypto bull was seen acting on that hype. Then when scam projects started to grow then crypto started to slow down as new projects had zero success after investors suffered losses. Everyone like you thinks bull market may start today or tomorrow but that is fantasy because the correct information about bull market is unknown to everyone. Step away from investment and start trading that will not let you down and you will get small or more profit every day.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: dunfida on September 27, 2023, 06:50:13 PM
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/27/PRnAa.png

Snipped out on some screenshots by some member.
We do see this recent movement of Bitcoins price which it did shoot up a little bit and make out that correction or sell out afterwards.
Is there some news? None
Is there some technical indicators showing those possibilities? None

This do really indicates on how unpredictable market is. It might really be looking so calm and peaceful but those shoot up in price or dumps
could really happen in a snap.

Speaking entirely on cryptospace on which we know that this is something that would really be that in correlation or in overall with
bitcoins price condition or trend then everything would really be following according to it.If it would be having that positive trend then almost coins
in the market would really be going on the same path.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on September 28, 2023, 06:29:14 AM
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/09/27/PRnAa.png

Snipped out on some screenshots by some member.
We do see this recent movement of Bitcoins price which it did shoot up a little bit and make out that correction or sell out afterwards.
Is there some news? None
Is there some technical indicators showing those possibilities? None

This do really indicates on how unpredictable market is. It might really be looking so calm and peaceful but those shoot up in price or dumps
could really happen in a snap.

Speaking entirely on cryptospace on which we know that this is something that would really be that in correlation or in overall with
bitcoins price condition or trend then everything would really be following according to it.If it would be having that positive trend then almost coins
in the market would really be going on the same path.
So we considering a 2% move n same 2% drop a pump n dump ?? its bitcoin which used to make swings of 10% in a day. now 2% is concerning ??? its totally boring in my opinion. check it percentage wise its not moving anywhere since march


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: doomloop on September 30, 2023, 05:49:23 AM
The market is no longer volatile as before because we're in the bear market and alot of individual are no longer active in the market trading Bitcoin by buying or selling but they are holding because soon the halving date will near and those who didn't hold their bitcoin will be regretting while those individuals that didn't sell their Bitcoin but was holding will make profits. When the bear market is over and the bull market comes then you'll see the market back in its volatility.
If we are talking about extreme volatility, then yes, the market isn't that volatile at the moment for a lot of reasons including market sentiment, not much news both positive and negative, and lower trading volumes of course, but volatility in general is still present because the prices of cryptocurrencies including Bitcoin are still moving up and down every single day no matter how small the movement is.

Most individual in the crypto market are holding and there aren't many individual buying because alot of money has been lot in the market for the last past years and those with money are waiting for the market to finish dumping then starts pumping before they will buy.
People are buying and selling but the volumes are relatively lower at the moment, and as soon as that starts going up, the market will start getting more pace and will start going up more and we probably have some time for that to happen right now.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on September 30, 2023, 09:46:51 AM
What do you mean? Since I entered this industry, there has been volatility in cryptocurrencies. Or maybe you mean that the volatility is more aggressive now compared to when it started in 2017. Is that what you mean?

I guess you read the title only. He already explained what he meant! I also agree with him that the market was far more volatile than it is today. But as Don Pedro already explained in the first post, Bitcoin established a lot more than how it was back In 2017/18. Low-cap coins fluctuate a lot. I remember buying some low-cap shitcoin in Latoken exchange a while ago. I don't remember the amount, but it was a tiny amount. I noticed that the coin price increased by almost 10% after my buying order, and it decreased, and then I was unable to sell it. LOL. The volatility depends on the market cap and the trading volume. A single BTC sale won't affect the market much. But if you sell a couple of thousand bitcoins, you will notice the effect in the market.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: justdimin on October 05, 2023, 05:54:45 PM
I'm expecting the same thing in the next halving. I've saw this kind of pattern 2x already and it might be the same thing that will happen next year when halving happened. It would take months before we can see a massive rise on bitcoin price. Spot bitcoin ETF is one of the factors that I am thinking that could possibly contribute to a massive bitcoin price pump in short, the bull market for cryptocurrency. This is the current time that is I think the best time to buy bitcoin since we are on sideways for a long time now. Volatility is there but the peak volatility is I think will happen during the bull and bear market.
I would say that it is going to definitely be a good increase but we just need something else to hold it until that point. We are doing fine at the moment, we are nearing that 30k line and dropping then doing that again and again, and as long as we can do this until 2024 that's going to be fine. I get that not many people enjoy that, but as long as we can do it on time it will be fine.

Doesn't matter if we dislike seeing it not moving at this moment, that's of course understandable to want to see it go up now, but as long as it goes up next year, that should be fine. And it is not like we are going to see double the next day after halving, I agree that we are going to be waiting for it to go up a bit more.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Timmzzy on October 05, 2023, 07:51:42 PM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??


To me i think the hype of crypto is dead, if you could remeber back then everyone wanna learn crypto everyone wanna buy one or two type of coin and so much more, but now i think many have seen the results of not having or doing proper research before investing in,  And many are pulling out as the case may be. With that been said, i think thats the reason market is No longer volatile like before even a WHOLE future market too. like am weak at times waiting for hours before my trade goes my way.


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: joker1313 on October 06, 2023, 07:04:35 AM
So i've been a trader since early 2017 and i have never seen such low volatility in market. Even at the time of 2018 bear run the things were quite slow but this time its totally different. It makes a move and consolidates for like a month or two now. Which was never the case in past.

Its possible that only i feel like that and other people still see it like the normal bitcoin trend. But there was fun every week in crypto before.

What do you guys think ?? Is it just me or some of you others feel the same??

And if it is like that then what do you all think when the wild ride start again like old days ??


To me i think the hype of crypto is dead, if you could remeber back then everyone wanna learn crypto everyone wanna buy one or two type of coin and so much more, but now i think many have seen the results of not having or doing proper research before investing in,  And many are pulling out as the case may be. With that been said, i think thats the reason market is No longer volatile like before even a WHOLE future market too. like am weak at times waiting for hours before my trade goes my way.
yea that is basically because of too much establishment in crypto. Boring like stocks


Title: Re: What happened to Crypto Volatility..???
Post by: Xampeuu on October 06, 2023, 07:56:45 AM
I'm expecting the same thing in the next halving. I've saw this kind of pattern 2x already and it might be the same thing that will happen next year when halving happened. It would take months before we can see a massive rise on bitcoin price. Spot bitcoin ETF is one of the factors that I am thinking that could possibly contribute to a massive bitcoin price pump in short, the bull market for cryptocurrency. This is the current time that is I think the best time to buy bitcoin since we are on sideways for a long time now. Volatility is there but the peak volatility is I think will happen during the bull and bear market.
I would say that it is going to definitely be a good increase but we just need something else to hold it until that point. We are doing fine at the moment, we are nearing that 30k line and dropping then doing that again and again, and as long as we can do this until 2024 that's going to be fine. I get that not many people enjoy that, but as long as we can do it on time it will be fine.

Doesn't matter if we dislike seeing it not moving at this moment, that's of course understandable to want to see it go up now, but as long as it goes up next year, that should be fine. And it is not like we are going to see double the next day after halving, I agree that we are going to be waiting for it to go up a bit more.
A price increase is something that many people hope for, in fact no one knows when it will happen, pseudo-increases also often occur and after that the price falls again, becoming a fake signal. The thing that is certain now is to patiently wait for the real bullishness to occur and at that time we will have enough investment to be harvested and make us rich people, with financial freedom as we hope.