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Title: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Z390 on September 17, 2023, 02:07:34 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Jawhead999 on September 17, 2023, 02:18:47 PM
Free spins and demo accounts are different, you can't make a conclusion when there are two people get a similar result from the free spins because it might only a coincidence. It's not rigged because I know there's few lucky people ever make money from free spins, of course most of gamblers are losing and not able to fulfill the requirement.

However it depends on the casino too, if it's a new and not reputable casino, there's a chance the casino manipulated the game.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Cantsay on September 17, 2023, 02:39:44 PM
I’m most free spins the amount majority of people get are the same which made me question a casino that came to this forum one time about the free spins reward. But in some cases you can still get lower or higher than the amount that majority of people get.

Just because I experienced it in one casino does not mean that I should use that same mindset for every other casino out there, some might be rigged (most especially if they’re new to the industry) so as to avoid them losing a lot of money from free spins, while others are genuine but don’t classify them as demo since you can’t withdraw from demo no matter your wins but you can from free spins are completing all the requirements.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: SamReomo on September 17, 2023, 02:43:20 PM
No, free spins aren't demo because in demo whatever you earns is totally virtual while with free spins if your luck favors you then you can earn real money and withdraw that without any issues. But, I believe that most of the free spins and bonuses come with wagering requirements and it's really hard to complete those wagering requirements, and most people end up loosing everything instead of gaining anything. But, we can't say that casinos that offer those free spins have control over the winnings or losses because a legit casino won't do anything fishy and if they does then they get tagged by the users. So if someone can successfully complete the wagering requirements and KYC verification then that person can withdraw the winnings of those free spins.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: coinerer on September 17, 2023, 02:44:33 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
Free spins and demos are totally different things but I have never seen anyone win anything big from free spins but I have heard of many winning anywhere from $1-20 from here.  Free spins are mainly given to attract gamblers to casino sites. Although gamblers don't usually win over $20 from here, gambling sites advertise that they are giving away 1 Bitcoin or more in free spins. This is entirely their marketing policy. But if free spins are available then it is not bad to use them because even small amount is good from here.  Because it is completely free


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Beparanf on September 17, 2023, 02:45:02 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

I believe some slot providers can modify RTP as per the request of the casino owners. Some casino offer an insane amount of free spin on a certain slot games mostly from Bgaming provider that doesn’t give much huge profit and somehow has a max profit limit for the free spin. I do get your point especially these massive free spin that result to small win and mostly lose bets.

Free spin is intended to attract customers to deposit and try the casino by luring them to deposit more to get more free spin. I usually avoid freespin that can be use only on specific game unless it’s just really free like the Bitcasino free spin drop.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Wind_FURY on September 17, 2023, 02:49:37 PM
OP, "a demo in disguise"? I believe not. You said you and your friend won $15.00 from free spins. That's actually not very bad! You can't actually expect to win hundreds or thousands from free spins unless they're for slot-machines with progressive jackpots, no?

Plus DYOR on a user's edge in slot-machines. Because you don't, and the fact that you won $15.00, you're lucky. Many slot-machine players will lose $15.00. Haha.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: tjtonmoy on September 17, 2023, 02:58:55 PM
However it depends on the casino too, if it's a new and not reputable casino, there's a chance the casino manipulated the game.
I was about to say the same thing. It is not rigged and you get random results on every account. Maybe some will match but that's just a coincidence. Reputable platforms will never do such a thing. Maybe this is a new platform that offers $15 as a joining bonus. Now this is a whole different story. Because existing ones will never roll out offers like this. Or maybe they would but I don't know that well.

This seems like it is using the same strategy as some exchanges do. You will receive a free bonus but you will have to do some tasks. So it's better to be happy with what you have and if you want to keep using it, do your own research to see if it's here to stay or some platform that will die after some time. It seems like a strategy to gather more people to join their platform. So keeping an exact amount will not disappoint anyone.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: bitbollo on September 17, 2023, 03:00:24 PM
I think that major/reputable casino probably not have free spins like "demo".
Of course it can be generalized since there are many operators and many scripts... I have seen some times a "cap" on max win, but always counted as "real money bet".

Just as simple example, I have used many BJ.FUN free spins (several prize won) and even if these were provided free I was able to win decent amount (that should be not possible with free spins...).


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: acroman08 on September 17, 2023, 03:00:47 PM
The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.
I kind of understand where you are coming from, but they are ultimately different, I mean, both of them allow you to try the game on the casino but you have to realize that on free spins you have the chance of winning money while on demo games, you have no chance of winning any thing. also, as Jawhead999 has said, you and your friends getting the same result could just be a coincidence.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
gambling sites have different terms when it comes to their free spins and as far as I know, there are gambling sites that don't require you to deposit anything, you just need to pass the terms they have for the free spins to allow you to withdraw the winnings.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: ScamViruS on September 17, 2023, 03:05:44 PM
Your friend's same result at the same casino as you could be a coincidence, it's hard to draw any conclusions from your winning amount. I have not seen anyone earn a large amount from free spins, because there are many requirements behind it to withdraw the winnings from those free spins. As a result many gamblers lose more money to that casino to fulfill that requirement. And the demo account is different things, you put the demo and free spins in one place.

Those who earn from free spins are very lucky in my opinion, and you too can be said that at least you managed to earn $15.0.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Coin_trader on September 17, 2023, 03:07:13 PM
OP, "a demo in disguise"? I believe not. You said you and your friend won $15.00 from free spins. That's actually not very bad! You can't actually expect to win hundreds or thousands from free spins unless they're for slot-machines with progressive jackpots, no?

I won multiple times more than a 100$ on free spin from Livecasino free spin bonus on our signature campaign. I remember winning same amount on Winz.io free spin and Bitcasino. 100$ and above is possible to win free spin depending on the max multiplier and the bet amount of the free spin.

There’s a wagering requirements on free spin rewards so I doubt that casino will provide capped on winning possibilities since most of the free spin offer by other casino requires deposit for wagering since the free spin reward is lock. Just saying that free spin is not different on normal in terms of max profit potential.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: qwertyup23 on September 17, 2023, 03:12:56 PM
OP, "a demo in disguise"? I believe not. You said you and your friend won $15.00 from free spins. That's actually not very bad! You can't actually expect to win hundreds or thousands from free spins unless they're for slot-machines with progressive jackpots, no?

Plus DYOR on a user's edge in slot-machines. Because you don't, and the fact that you won $15.00, you're lucky. Many slot-machine players will lose $15.00. Haha.

Well like most have mentioned, demos and free spins are entirely different from one another but they may intertwined with each other.

The problem with "free spins" is that their rates are absurdly low for one to receive any kind of reward. Sure, they are considered as "free" but the odds of a person really profiting from such is so low that many had doubts as to whether people can actually win on it. Maybe this is the reason on why you thought that these free spins are demo versions due to the fact that the chances of winning is low.

Though this may be the case, the greatest example that overthrows your theory is the experience of your friend. The fact that he won $15 from it is a testament that these free spins are not demos.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Sunderland on September 17, 2023, 03:14:17 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

I believe some slot providers can modify RTP as per the request of the casino owners. Some casino offer an insane amount of free spin on a certain slot games mostly from Bgaming provider that doesn’t give much huge profit and somehow has a max profit limit for the free spin. I do get your point especially these massive free spin that result to small win and mostly lose bets.

Free spin is intended to attract customers to deposit and try the casino by luring them to deposit more to get more free spin. I usually avoid freespin that can be use only on specific game unless it’s just really free like the Bitcasino free spin drop.

In theory its possible but the process is complicated and takes time, only whitelabel/trusted/big casinos whom able to request it directly to the slot providers.
Also the casino must provide the actual RTP on the the terms, if not the slot providers wont do that because they will be in trouble with gambling commissions.

Well, casino no need to cheat on slots to win. The slot house edge already big enough, as simple as that.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: coin-investor on September 17, 2023, 03:42:47 PM


The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of an online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.



Could be coincident or there is a manipulation, they cannot do a demo once they officially announce the launching of their casino if there are bugs they will lose their reputation, just look at what happened to Richy casino when they officially announced their launch but it appears the casino should be in a demo mode first to trace all the bugs on the casino.

Free spin is to test the site and the winning is real whereas on demo mode all winnings are considered of no value because it's on a testing period.
I seldom avail of free spins unless I see that the early people who test it prove that the platform is good and fair.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Ulven on September 17, 2023, 03:44:12 PM
Please maintain environmental cleanliness. You can move the topic to the gambling discussion section as it is the most suitable place for discussing the subject.

Online casinos offer genuine free slots and free spins, but they frequently have restrictions and conditions that cap the amount that may be won. To fully comprehend the terms and conditions of any casino promotion, always read them. Casinos use free spins to entice customers, but they do not always result in big profits.
Free courses are still beneficial for newcomers to the gaming industry, nonetheless, as they continue to offer insightful knowledge.




Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Gozie51 on September 17, 2023, 03:49:10 PM
Free spin are not the same thing with demo and if your free spin winning happen to be the same amount with your friends, I think it is nothing to worry about because it may be chance occurrence which is also what comes with free spin. However, I believe free spin winning rate is lower, I have not been lucky enough with that only few times on a very low rate .


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: piebeyb on September 17, 2023, 04:00:18 PM
I often get bonuses like it's a kind of free spins and in the end I win money from some of the spins but unfortunately it can't be cashed out unless you make a deposit and get the bonus but in the end you won't get anything from the game, since then I'm not really interested in bonus promotions like this because in the end you have to make a deposit in the end.

Casinos like that usually carry out promotions to attract new users to their site, this is clearly different from poker freerolls where you don't need to make a deposit and can even withdraw money, I prefer freeroll poker games at casinos compared to welcome bonuses or free spin bonuses at slot machine games. after all playing without a bonus is better. BTW, the bonus you mean is actually almost the same as the demo.  ;D


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: swogerino on September 17, 2023, 04:13:16 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

The free spins when you register and deposit which is an ongoing promotion in many casinos you are right,they don't give you usually huge wins,just a couple of them to show that the free spins are paying something.No one should expect a lot from them as I have not seen a single streamer who is streaming big wins from such spins.They are there most of the cases to attract new users as a form of increasing the user base for the casinos who implement it.

Demo is not the same as them because when playing in demo mode you can hit huge wins while from such free spins as a bonus in registering and depositing I have not seen any substantial win.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: AbuBhakar on September 17, 2023, 04:16:06 PM
However, I believe free spin winning rate is lower, I have not been lucky enough with that only few times on a very low rate .

Free spin winning rate is just the same if you are pertaining to the general winning rate of the slot game since the RTP is still the same with free spin to normal spin. I think the only reason why most of the free spin always ended up with minimal profit is due to the limited spin available for you to try unlike you are betting real money which you don’t look on spin count because you are focus on spin result and your bankroll balance.

I have a good experience on free spin since this is just free money. I consider any win as profit no matter what is the amount.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: cabron on September 17, 2023, 04:51:01 PM

As long as they let you withdraw the money you win, free spins will always be attractive. I don't see any casino that does not allow users to withdraw anymore until you deposit funds as a sort of requirement. The users feedback made those casinos listen to their future clients.
 
It's a matter of how you may look at it whether its a demo in disguise or not but its one promotion that will tempt new users to sign up. The casino will for sure look at it as an opportunity for those who can't resist.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Davidvictorson on September 17, 2023, 04:57:28 PM

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
This is actually funny because I have had the same thought as you about free spins. I concluded from my numerous experiences with free spins that the casinos who give free spins have programmed it such that you can't win past a certain amount. The OP.is even lucky to have won $15 . I once had a $50 worth of free spins but ended up winning just $10. This is my belief. I think the casino would go bankrupt if people starts winning $50 , $100 from free spins. It would be bad for business.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: passwordnow on September 17, 2023, 05:03:29 PM
Free spins are for real, it's just that there could be an algo from the provider that winning there with huge amounts is likely less chance. But it's still giving a chance for those claimers to win some little amounts and that's much better than having nothing. Demos are completely free, nada winning and whether you win there, is worthless unlike in free spins. So, free spins aren't a disguise but just as the demos, they're good part of casinos marketing plans and attractions.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: michellee on September 17, 2023, 05:26:26 PM
Yes, free slots are real. I used to often get free slots, especially from newly launched casinos. They give free spins to new users who sign up via the link in their ANN. Just by luck, you can win a lot of money, but usually, there are conditions you must fulfill before you can withdraw the money.

Maybe you all are really lucky to win $15. But the problem is, can you withdraw the winnings? Most people don't read the requirements for getting the free spins and just try to get the free spins immediately. And when they wanted to withdraw their winnings, they realized that there were requirements they had to fulfill first.

Free spins with demos are different. You can get free spins based on promotions launched by the casino. Meanwhile, in the demo, you play using fake money provided by the casino. And you will experience no loss because the money is fake money.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Pandu Geddon on September 17, 2023, 05:36:52 PM
And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

The demo account and real account, when you get free spins, are still different. Free spins aim to provide more gaming experience. Indeed, the aim is for you to experience the game and when the free spins run out you will be interested in making a deposit to continue playing. I think almost all players understand this.

A demo account is only for new members who want to try the game. You cannot measure potential wins or losses in a demo account. This is just to introduce the features and appearance of the game. actually, you are playing without money. while free spins are credited to your real account based on the campaign you follow. if it concerns new members' first deposits or certain campaigns carried out by the platform.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: slapper on September 17, 2023, 05:43:45 PM
Are there really free slots? In a way, yes. Things get tricky here, though. There are a lot of websites that give these free spins as a promotion, or "bait." I don't think the "free" spins are always rigged, but I do think they are controlled some.

The similar results you and your friends got? I wasn't surprised at all. It's been seen too many times. Even though the results aren't really demos, they're often meant to give you a taste of what's to come without actually serving it. Yes, they usually ask for a tip before you can bet. It's a sneaky way for them to keep you locked up. After all, casinos would go out of business very quickly if free spins were really that good. Remember that the house wants your money more than you do.




Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on September 17, 2023, 05:50:33 PM
Free spins are for real, it's just that there could be an algo from the provider that winning there with huge amounts is likely less chance. But it's still giving a chance for those claimers to win some little amounts and that's much better than having nothing. Demos are completely free, nada winning and whether you win there, is worthless unlike in free spins. So, free spins aren't a disguise but just as the demos, they're good part of casinos marketing plans and attractions.
Yes the free spins that the casino gives at the time of sign up or whatever, are different from the demo where there are no withdrawals. We have to be realistic in this case, when making a deposit, big wins are also difficult to get, especially this free spin given by the casino, of course the chances are also smaller to get a big win.
I agree with you that this is part of their marketing form to attract many users by giving free spins, and if we have been in the scope of gambling for a long time, this is certainly no longer something new for us.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: bittraffic on September 17, 2023, 06:00:49 PM
Are there really free slots? In a way, yes. Things get tricky here, though. There are a lot of websites that give these free spins as a promotion, or "bait." I don't think the "free" spins are always rigged, but I do think they are controlled some.

The similar results you and your friends got? I wasn't surprised at all. It's been seen too many times. Even though the results aren't really demos, they're often meant to give you a taste of what's to come without actually serving it. Yes, they usually ask for a tip before you can bet. It's a sneaky way for them to keep you locked up. After all, casinos would go out of business very quickly if free spins were really that good. Remember that the house wants your money more than you do.


Betfury roulette spin if you have tried it is rigged. It always lands on the token that has no value at all. There couldn't be more rigged than that. The token is just there to make you believe you can play on their casino and you lose nothing if those FUNFURY tokens are the ones you are going to use. I think the free spin promo was over though, the last time I checked.

But I guess it made me go there to try out the demo in order to experience the feel of their casino. If any felt lucky, maybe there are good signups and depositors in the casino so they have lured well.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: ajiz138 on September 17, 2023, 06:05:02 PM
Casinos always have a 'welcome new user' promotion when he signs up he will definitely get some free spins (certain casinos) that with different there is a need to make a deposit first or by not depositing, but behind it all there are rules; for example, this free spin winnings are limited to a maximum of $100 with certain requirements.

There are also regular users, then getting free spins is certainly different from the demo I can't compare it because the free spins in the casino are real, there have been several times getting spins after the 20th-30th manual spin then getting FS with varying winnings and I've even won with free spins above $150 at Bitcasino.io.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Westinhome on September 17, 2023, 06:16:22 PM
Casinos always have a 'welcome new user' promotion when he signs up he will definitely get some free spins (certain casinos) that with different there is a need to make a deposit first or by not depositing, but behind it all there are rules; for example, this free spin winnings are limited to a maximum of $100 with certain requirements.

There are also regular users, then getting free spins is certainly different from the demo I can't compare it because the free spins in the casino are real, there have been several times getting spins after the 20th-30th manual spin then getting FS with varying winnings and I've even won with free spins above $150 at Bitcasino.io.


Casino provide many features for the new user,because every gambler had their own casino experience.To get those gambler to their website some bonus or feature given by new gambling site.So the free spin is also like the bonus,but bonus only give us less money based on the deposit money.But the gambling site which give free spin may favour the person.If the free spin gives you 100 dollars,it will be your addition money can be used in the gambling site.Their will be some rules to get free spin,maximum the free spin will be offered to the person who had their deposit above of 100 dollars into their website.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: panjul07 on September 17, 2023, 06:40:51 PM
How much do you expect to win from the free spins given just for sign up?
Free spins bonuses is just one of the available promotion tools to attract people create an account in the casino with a hope to be active players.
For sure all type of bonuses comes with string attached and once you take it, means that you agree with all the terms.
I have no idea why you think free spins as a demo in disguise, but I think that you seems to be expecting too much from promotions by casino.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Wiwo on September 17, 2023, 07:06:09 PM
Free spin are not the same thing with demo and if your free spin winning happen to be the same amount with your friends, I think it is nothing to worry about because it may be chance occurrence which is also what comes with free spin. However, I believe free spin winning rate is lower, I have not been lucky enough with that only few times on a very low rate .
Really I have hard some luck with spins and the payout was very encouraging at some point which is why I have come up with a formula that worked for me several times before,  which is spinning with a lower merging which seems to increase my winning chances sometime.

A free spin is not the same with demo accounts,  since winning from a free spin can easily be withdrawn and winning from a demo account and real winning at that you can withdraw them.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: BitDane on September 17, 2023, 07:33:33 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

Some casinos don't need a deposit to claim the free spin winnings.  There is also a huge difference between a demo play and a free spins play.  In demo no matter how much you deposit, you will never get what you have win.  While in free spins, you can claim the winning if you meet the requirement needed to make the free spins winngs an active balance of your account that can be withdraw any time.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: komisariatku on September 17, 2023, 07:53:41 PM

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

The free spins given when you first sign up are real and not a demo. Even so, it is very difficult to win if you only rely on free spins, especially since there are usually wargers to be able to withdraw winnings from free spins, this is very difficult. So if you want to profit from the free spins they give you when you sign up then it's just a waste of time

I think casinos give free spins bonuses just to provide an experience using their slots. Apart from that, the amounts are also small so it is difficult to get big wins. But I think anyone can win from the free spins that casinos give, even though the amount may be very small


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Saint-loup on September 17, 2023, 07:57:54 PM
This is actually funny because I have had the same thought as you about free spins. I concluded from my numerous experiences with free spins that the casinos who give free spins have programmed it such that you can't win past a certain amount. The OP.is even lucky to have won $15 . I once had a $50 worth of free spins but ended up winning just $10. This is my belief. I think the casino would go bankrupt if people starts winning $50 , $100 from free spins. It would be bad for business.
No I don't think so, otherwise it would mean that slots are rigged if casinos and/or third providers are able to control the randomness and the winnings of the games they host.  Personally like one or two people have testified above, I also got few big wins with free spins. But you shouldn't forget that usually casinos only offer few dozens free spins at most, while when you are playing you are usually spending hundreds or thousands spins, so you have more chances to get big jackpots during your session at the end.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: rahmad2nd on September 17, 2023, 08:13:32 PM

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

Actually, I don't really understand what you really mean. how can you conclude, that the free spins are a demo in disguise. As far as my experience playing slots goes, I rarely buy free spins in each game session. So, I was just hoping to get free spins.  From many experiences in gaming sessions, basically every free spin I get has no guarantee that it will provide a high reward, let alone reach the maximum limit.

Let's theorize according to my version, if every free spin we get gives a big reward or blow to every player/gambler, what would happen to a casino, wouldn't that be detrimental to them? The point is, every slot game has been designed in such a way, that's why currently there are RTP and RNG systems, and all kinds of things. as far as my playing experience goes, not every time I will get a big hit from a free spin. although for example, we get free spins repeatedly. Everything, it comes back to luck. I have experienced getting the maximum win even though the bet was low. But at least, this shows that bonus rewards do exist. Just imagine, from just one slot game, how many dozens of people play it.  and we compete, to try our luck. btw, what I said is based on my understanding.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 17, 2023, 08:16:05 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

It could be true though, but we really don't know unless you check your free spins and see if they are provably fair or not. As far as demo though, for sure it's just a setup and it will show you massive gains to entice you to deposit money and play and hope that you will get that amount, but we all know that will not be the case.

As for free spins experience, also didn't win, and everything is just based on pure luck as we have said specially in slots.

Just remember as well that free spins is part of marketing and promotion for this casinos.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: dothebeats on September 17, 2023, 08:23:43 PM
The thing is, in free spins you are actually getting the stats and are contributing it towards your wagers for the next tier up or for rewards. Demo is entirely different - you are just playing the game without it affecting your account nor its stats. It's a way of the casino to let you experience their platform without having to risk something or gain something, just purely testing the platform.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Mate2237 on September 17, 2023, 08:31:10 PM
I spin game, there are free spins but they are not for you to win but to perpetual to loss. I have played free spins games before and I loss all. Even in normal spin games, it is very hard to win the game. Slot games are much more better than spin game. Demo games are better than free spin games, because in the demo game, you will win well and because of the winning in the demo, you will be motivated to play the real game. But in the free spin, you would not win anything and even you win, it will be very small amount. Free spin is a trash.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: stomachgrowls on September 17, 2023, 08:31:31 PM
Free spins and demo accounts are different, you can't make a conclusion when there are two people get a similar result from the free spins because it might only a coincidence. It's not rigged because I know there's few lucky people ever make money from free spins, of course most of gamblers are losing and not able to fulfill the requirement.

However it depends on the casino too, if it's a new and not reputable casino, there's a chance the casino manipulated the game.
I shall gonna say the same thing too on which having both the same scenario or results on playing and observing out from other people would be a solid indicative thing that it is really just the same. Demo are different considering that every roll would really be totally random and we know the differences in between those free spins which could actually give out that potential winning which you could really be able to cash out those
money if you are extremely lucky which it is really that totally different if we do speak about demo or free money gambling which those are just good for try outs. Outcomes and results would really be different to each
other and there's no point or sense on trying out to tell that they are just the same just because you both lose at the same time. I do agree to the fact that house do always win at the end and always be having the advantage
basing up on the rules and conditions been set up then we know that gamblers/players would be always at disadvantage.

This is why it wont really be that much of a concern because odds would really be always against us and this is why gambling whether on demo or real live account or balance would
really be sharing on the same results.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: TimeTeller on September 17, 2023, 09:01:09 PM
This is actually funny because I have had the same thought as you about free spins. I concluded from my numerous experiences with free spins that the casinos who give free spins have programmed it such that you can't win past a certain amount. The OP.is even lucky to have won $15 . I once had a $50 worth of free spins but ended up winning just $10. This is my belief. I think the casino would go bankrupt if people starts winning $50 , $100 from free spins. It would be bad for business.
No I don't think so, otherwise it would mean that slots are rigged if casinos and/or third providers are able to control the randomness and the winnings of the games they host.  Personally like one or two people have testified above, I also got few big wins with free spins. But you shouldn't forget that usually casinos only offer few dozens free spins at most, while when you are playing you are usually spending hundreds or thousands spins, so you have more chances to get big jackpots during your session at the end.

I don't think such free spins are rigged. But upon withdrawal of your winnings, they may impose conditions.
Such as you need to deposit or wager certain amount before you can get your winnings.
They won't just give your free spins like totally free, usually there are conditions need to be met.
Because if someone expose them that those free spins are not provably fair, I think, they will just ruin their promotions for nothing.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Mr.suevie on September 17, 2023, 09:17:10 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
For some casinos that is exactly the point of these free spins and I also think it's some kind of marketing strategy to actually get some gambling kind of stuck with that casino to actually continue gambling more and the funny thing is that it always works.

Human are always prone to anything that is free and that is why most gaming casino have these bonuses because it helps boost the activeness by other members of the casino.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: nakamura12 on September 17, 2023, 10:01:25 PM
Both are not the same at all. Let's put it this way, you win when you use the free spins and YES, you are able to withdraw the amount you win without a problem and about the demo, you win when betting using it but if you withdraw the amount and yet you aren't able to do it no matter how you contact their customer support. Some might be rig and some are not no matter if they are new or not in gambling industry because if a casino decided to steal from their gambling then that's what's going to happen.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Slow death on September 17, 2023, 10:18:08 PM
I believe that the type and value of bonus that each casino offers are one of the many factors that make people create accounts at the casino and continue playing at the casino, now talking specifically about whether or not the free spin is similar to the demo account , I honestly think that they are not similar, free spin allows people to win money but it will depend on people's luck, even if the person has been very lucky in constantly receiving free spin and has not won anything considerable we can still consider that this person is unlucky and it's not because the free spin doesn't allow you to win something big

because the moment the probability of winning a lot with free spin becomes different but the person manages to win a lot using real money, then we can no longer consider this game to be demonstrably fair, it would be a rigged game and this is something serious that I believe the old and reputable casinos would not do it. I have already read in this forum in this same section members commenting that they played a lot and lost, but they won free spin and with the free spin they managed to win a lot with a high multiplier and with these gains they overcame the losses to the point of making them make a profit .

Even on YouTube I've seen several people commenting on how they were lucky enough to win a lot of money by hitting a big multiplier and with the free spin, which is why in my opinion there's nothing wrong with the free spin, but of course it depends on each person's luck. person to win a lot of money either with deposited money or with free spin


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: mirakal on September 17, 2023, 10:18:47 PM
Free spins are actually giving some opportunities for lucky players to win some decent amount, but since we all know that most of the time the casinos get lucky more than us, then it’s seldom to see winning from free spins than losing it. However, I can tell that those free spins are real and not manipulated by the casino as we have seen some gamblers who are very aggressive when it comes to playing free spins.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Wexnident on September 17, 2023, 10:23:34 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
It might, it might not be? We wouldn't really know unless the casino was public about the nitty-gritty of how it works. Publicly, it might look the same as any regular spin you'd do, privately they might've added a soft limit for spins done with the label "free". There are also instances where they're both the same but free spins aren't able to be withdrawn without depositing a certain amount or something similar in terms of limiting the user. Or there might just really be casinos that offer free spins. After all, it's not like it'd cost them anything most of the time, even a big win would probably be offset by the regular amount of users that are trying to redeem said free spin.

Additionally, I don't think your sample size is that reasonable in the first place. I mean it was one spin, you and your friend.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: STT on September 17, 2023, 10:25:23 PM
I got free spins enough to recycle and withdraw a sizeable amount without needing to deposit even.  It was a requirement to continually play over the free bet amount till I had credited my account with the activity amount necessary to withdraw but some offers are good enough to take home and bank if you are lucky.   Usually its just a starter amount to increase your normal deposit but sometimes it can turn out to be a total win all by itself.  That did happen for me at least once, obviously it wont be often sadly.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Wiwo on September 17, 2023, 10:27:16 PM
Free spins are actually giving some opportunities for lucky players to win some decent amount, but since we all know that most of the time the casinos get lucky more than us, then it’s seldom to see winning from free spins than losing it. However, I can tell that those free spins are real and not manipulated by the casino as we have seen some gamblers who are very aggressive when it comes to playing free spins.
I agree with that,  there os high possibility that a player that os given free spin will certainly win a few bulk that can help push his gaming time forward even though he may not have direct deposits,  this is why in my earlier comment,  I started how demo accounts differs in high proportion to free spin.

I have been given free spin before and in the cost of trying the use the buses,  I won a good amount of money that was x2 of the total amount awarded in the free spin,  after my total wager.

The demo is only good for testing the games to have a feel of what they look like even though there are great differences between demo account games and the real live games,  so do take your results and drill on the demo account as being an expert,  you may meet a different thing entirely.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: dothebeats on September 17, 2023, 10:43:15 PM
I got free spins enough to recycle and withdraw a sizeable amount without needing to deposit even.  It was a requirement to continually play over the free bet amount till I had credited my account with the activity amount necessary to withdraw but some offers are good enough to take home and bank if you are lucky.   Usually its just a starter amount to increase your normal deposit but sometimes it can turn out to be a total win all by itself.  That did happen for me at least once, obviously it wont be often sadly.

Never really won anything significant on free spins but it would be awesome to experience getting one. I usually just get the deposit bonus and not chase for free spins whenever there's a promotion going on as I tend to get distracted because I want to get the free spin, too. It's not everyday that you'll manage to flip a free spin to a win, but it happens, and sometimes the gambler wins really big from those.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: n0ne on September 17, 2023, 10:51:36 PM
Free spins are given just as a compensation to be part of the platform and examine how good are the things working. Whenever we were provided with free spins we'll get the terms and conditions associated with it. This means, if we need to withdraw the free spin amount it isn't possible. We need to achieve specific wager limits, if not the same can't be withdrawn. In some casino games we'll get free spins based on reaching specific levels of wager. There are people who had made good win out of these free spins, but the same can't be expected to happen everytime. This happens with people who are extremely lucky.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: AmoreJaz on September 17, 2023, 11:18:47 PM
Free spins are given just as a compensation to be part of the platform and examine how good are the things working. Whenever we were provided with free spins we'll get the terms and conditions associated with it. This means, if we need to withdraw the free spin amount it isn't possible. We need to achieve specific wager limits, if not the same can't be withdrawn. In some casino games we'll get free spins based on reaching specific levels of wager. There are people who had made good win out of these free spins, but the same can't be expected to happen everytime. This happens with people who are extremely lucky.

that is very right! don't expect that those free spins are totally free. they come with conditions that you need to comply. like deposit first before you can withdraw your winnings. or wager 10x or 100x before withdrawal. it depends from casino to casino.
don't accuse the site of scamming you if they start asking you to deposit first, because you need to read their terms as part of your responsibility. most of them are click baits, so don't fall for the traps.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: harizen on September 17, 2023, 11:25:13 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

Basically, free spins are not demo in disguise. Just be thankful though that there are sites that offer free spins being a newly registered account.

But since it's a "free reward" as a new user, don't expect anything from it although there are a few new users who managed to hit the allowed maximum withdrawal amount based on those free spins. I was able to hunt those sites offering free spins with no deposit several months ago and I was able to cash out winnings smoothly although I comply with KYC (mostly fiat online casinos).

My advice is that just enjoy it and don't put your expectations too high.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: serjent05 on September 17, 2023, 11:40:17 PM
Free spins are given just as a compensation to be part of the platform and examine how good are the things working. Whenever we were provided with free spins we'll get the terms and conditions associated with it. This means, if we need to withdraw the free spin amount it isn't possible. We need to achieve specific wager limits, if not the same can't be withdrawn. In some casino games we'll get free spins based on reaching specific levels of wager. There are people who had made good win out of these free spins, but the same can't be expected to happen everytime. This happens with people who are extremely lucky.

that is very right! don't expect that those free spins are totally free. they come with conditions that you need to comply. like deposit first before you can withdraw your winnings. or wager 10x or 100x before withdrawal. it depends from casino to casino.
don't accuse the site of scamming you if they start asking you to deposit first, because you need to read their terms as part of your responsibility. most of them are click baits, so don't fall for the traps.

I highly agree, we have to sweat blood meeting the wagering requirement in order to cash out these free spins. but I disagree that free spins are also demo in disguise.  These two are different as stated on the earlier replies.  Free spins is some kind of reward while a demo is just access to the game and without the need  for funds since it is just for fun play.  No matter how huge our winnings in demo, it can never be withdrawn since it is just a play money and no real money is involved.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: goinmerry on September 17, 2023, 11:43:25 PM
The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

Programmed or not, it gives you some build-up and interest to try the site since having free $15 is not a joke. However you have to wager it and fulfill the requirements before you can withdraw anything from it. Just take is a welcome bonus for registering on their site.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

Not in most cases that those free spins do need deposit.

What you have to do is to read the requirements if those free spins winning does need to have a deposit first. If you are lucky, you can withdraw those winnings without deposit although expect that wagering requirement is damn hard like x25 x35 or even x50 but as long as the maximum withdrawal is good, it's worth to give an effort.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: arwin100 on September 17, 2023, 11:45:18 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

So different since on free spin you have a chance to win some amount or even the jackpot prize. While demo account don't have any chance that you can take home some amount you win while playing. The only difference there is demo account is totally risk free while in free spins there are chances that you need to deposit so that you could reached up to the wager requirement and then withdraw all your winnings.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Stepstowealth on September 17, 2023, 11:48:09 PM
The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.
If the first mode you meet when you just join a casino is the demo mode, it may take a while before you will start gambling with real money because you may become stuck on the demo mode for fun especially when you are a new gambler, and not start using real money on time which is not good for the casino. So free spins are a quick demo and introduction mode for new gamblers to a casino to welcome you to using your money to gamble.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: OgNasty on September 18, 2023, 12:04:07 AM
Any promotion for an online casino is basically a trial offer. Most even require that you deposit real money and gamble a certain amount in order to be able to withdraw or use the trial offer. Just be careful. Trials can be good when the company offering them is reliable, but they are also traps for people in order to steal their funds.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: danherbias07 on September 18, 2023, 01:46:07 AM
I never got a good result with free spins, ever. You are lucky if you get $15 and your friends got the same result but I won't conclude that something fishy is happening or it's like the ceiling of prizes that will be given. It may just be a coincidence so just take the money and use it to play the normal modes.
But I do believe the chances of getting a good result with free spins is way lower than the normal betting mode so do not expect too much if you will receive more free spins in the future.

It's not a demo in disguise, it's just free spins but you won't get better results in it so maybe $10-20 of the prize should be considered good spins because I am sure there are more who used that feature, and got nothing in return.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: len01 on September 18, 2023, 03:57:19 AM
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And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
demo slot with free spins or free spin bonuses when you first register on a gambling site are very different.

btw, it looks like you have answered the question you are thinking about yourself. if the free spins are a promotion or something that can attract new customers and it is very normal that almost all gambling has promotions like this as if giving free spins but when you want to get the bonus for real you have to make a deposit after that you have to fulfill the conditions or you have to meet the specified conditions and each casino has different conditions, but you still not be able to achieve these conditions unless it is your day or your lucky day.

usually the conditions for getting a free spin bonus are a little more difficult to achieve because you have to have a certain total bet amount such as 30x the amount of your deposit and I think you know this. just IMO


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 18, 2023, 07:15:21 AM
Free spins are real and give gamblers a chance to win big wins but they will not always guarantee getting big wins. You can get free spins by purchasing the Bonus feature in some slot games so you have the chance to win some money. And the free spins are not a demo because that's different.

But some casinos often provide free spins through promotions and usually, there is a wagering that you have to fulfill. This usually causes gamblers problems because they don't read the terms and conditions.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Mauser on September 18, 2023, 07:41:44 AM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.


Yes free slot games are real and it's a favorite tool for some casinos to reward their loyal customers. Like you I never won anything big in them. My payouts are usually less than 5 USD which is a bit sad. Not really sure if it's worth for the casino to manipulate these games so that gamblers only can win small amounts, or maybe I am just unlucky. I noticed in the past that usually the time before Christmas is when casinos run more promotions and offer more free spins. One casino even had an advent calendar that had every day in December free spins. Maybe there is a difference between free spins for new users and for regular customers, because the spins are usually linked to one particular game. What I used to do with all the free spin wins is to place them on black in roulette for one round to double my profits.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Strongkored on September 18, 2023, 07:47:25 AM
And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
Don't expect much from free spins because you only get a limited number, sometimes under 50 free spins, so what can be generated from just under 50 spins? Indeed, getting big results does not depend entirely on the number of spins, but the more you spin, the greater the chance of getting a high multiplier.
When we see a gambler who can achieve a high multiplier, we don't know for sure how many hundreds or even thousands of spins he has to make to achieve that. I even got 100 free spins and the amount won was no more than $20 but I don't mind that.
Another thing that often prevents us from getting big results from free spins is that the slot players where we can use free spins are in slot with low volatility, so we will often only get cents.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Solosanz on September 18, 2023, 08:49:15 AM
Any promotion for an online casino is basically a trial offer. Most even require that you deposit real money and gamble a certain amount in order to be able to withdraw or use the trial offer. Just be careful. Trials can be good when the company offering them is reliable, but they are also traps for people in order to steal their funds.
I don't think it's stealing if the casino already write that requirement in their terms, after all there's nothing called as free money in casino because they're not a charity. People need to realize if casino isn't a place to make money especially they think gambling is a source of income.

I never believe free spin or bonus money are ways to know a friendly casino, we need to search about the rollover, withdrawal fee, house edge, etc.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Outhue on September 18, 2023, 09:35:58 AM
Simple, with free spins you make money, I mean real money, and in demo you make money that aren't real, money you can't withdraw, as you can see they are not the same thing, it's possible to be lucky with free spins, but still, luck is in play here.


I kinda believe that your chances of winning better money with free spins are lower compare to using your hard earned money, to me free spins are not bad at all, they are way better than creating a new account on a trading platform and using demo to try and see how it works, with free spins, you get the whole idea how things work, you still make money doing so and you are able to keep the money too.

Free spins are limited in number, that's why you need to be a lucky charm prince to win good amount of money using free spins, I believe such result is very rare, but no amount is bad when you are getting it for free.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Hirose UK on September 18, 2023, 10:20:17 AM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.
Free spin bonuses on slot games are usually given to all gamblers who have just registered or created a new account at one of the casinos and of course bonuses like this are intended to attract the interest of gamblers so that they become more curious about playing and deposit a certain amount of money to bet on the game that they like like slots.
Talking about free spins is actually very different from the demo because in free spins you will not get any benefits unless you really have great luck and even then the opportunity is almost impossible.

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And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
So that is the main purpose of free spins namely that it can make gamblers deposit more money because they have felt quite challenging when playing with some of these free spins.
But actually without a free spin bonus we as gamblers will still deposit money whether in large amounts or small amounts because creating a casino account is aimed at playing or betting not just chasing the bonuses given by the casino.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: KTChampions on September 18, 2023, 10:21:37 AM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

I tried free spins several times, but if I remember correctly I always received zero or an insignificant amount (something like a dollar). I don’t think that free spins are somehow rigged and differ from a regular game - for a casino this tuning will obviously cost more than a fair game (both in terms of software programming and in terms of possible loss of reputation if these manipulations are detected).


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: xSkylarx on September 18, 2023, 10:42:31 AM
It is different because when you say demo it is only used not real money it is just a token or play money the purpose was to get to know the platform and feel it and how to navigate. On free spins it is really real money that was given to you to play and try your luck but the problem is that there are other casinos that manipulate it like they make you win so that you'll deposit more to get your winnings because of the wagering requirements. I would say that free is a marketing tactic as there are gamblers finding free spins to get.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: passwordnow on September 18, 2023, 12:20:12 PM
Free spins are for real, it's just that there could be an algo from the provider that winning there with huge amounts is likely less chance. But it's still giving a chance for those claimers to win some little amounts and that's much better than having nothing. Demos are completely free, nada winning and whether you win there, is worthless unlike in free spins. So, free spins aren't a disguise but just as the demos, they're good part of casinos marketing plans and attractions.
Yes the free spins that the casino gives at the time of sign up or whatever, are different from the demo where there are no withdrawals. We have to be realistic in this case, when making a deposit, big wins are also difficult to get, especially this free spin given by the casino, of course the chances are also smaller to get a big win.
To summarize, we can say that free spins are real while demos are not. We saw gamblers who are into free spins that have won with real money.

I agree with you that this is part of their marketing form to attract many users by giving free spins, and if we have been in the scope of gambling for a long time, this is certainly no longer something new for us.
That's always what it is. They need to get the attention of many gamblers and there is no doubt that these free spins are given, many are also going with the crowd there and flock them. It's an effective strategy that many casinos do and it's no longer a secret to keep.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: slapper on September 18, 2023, 12:24:17 PM
Simple, with free spins you make money, I mean real money, and in demo you make money that aren't real, money you can't withdraw, as you can see they are not the same thing, it's possible to be lucky with free spins, but still, luck is in play here.


I kinda believe that your chances of winning better money with free spins are lower compare to using your hard earned money, to me free spins are not bad at all, they are way better than creating a new account on a trading platform and using demo to try and see how it works, with free spins, you get the whole idea how things work, you still make money doing so and you are able to keep the money too.

Free spins are limited in number, that's why you need to be a lucky charm prince to win good amount of money using free spins, I believe such result is very rare, but no amount is bad when you are getting it for free.
Look, here's the thing: Free spins give you the illusion of making money; but you and I both know it's not always that simple. Yes, you can win money with free spins. But the amount is usually peanuts, hardly anything life-changing. You said it yourself; you need to be a "lucky charm prince" to win big. How many lucky charm princes do you know?

And comparing it to a trading demo account? Man, that's totally different. At least in a demo, you learn the ropes without losing actual money. Free spins are like the greasy fast food of gambling: they taste good going down, but they can leave you feeling unsatisfied. If you want to gamble like a pro, don't be swayed by the allure of "free"; nothing's free in the long run


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: bitLeap on September 18, 2023, 12:36:50 PM
And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
If you actually play on Coin.game according to the signature you use, you can definitely answer this question. There they give 100 free spins on certain games as a welcome bonus and winnings from free spins can be unlocked every time you make a deposit. Meanwhile, the Demo cannot be taken completely even if you get 1000 free spins. Free spins promotion method to encourage you to increase your bets and provide returns with bonus themes.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: iv4n on September 18, 2023, 12:45:55 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416178.msg62824467#msg62824467 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416178.msg62824467#msg62824467)

So I got one big zero from 20 free spins at $0.2 bet... It takes a lot of luck to hit a bonus round or a bigger win through free spins! I claimed many free spins from different promotions, but I can't say I was lucky, maybe once or twice I had some significant wins. With just 20-30 spins I usually get 0 - 1$, which is nothing.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: swogerino on September 18, 2023, 12:52:05 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

I tried free spins several times, but if I remember correctly I always received zero or an insignificant amount (something like a dollar). I don’t think that free spins are somehow rigged and differ from a regular game - for a casino this tuning will obviously cost more than a fair game (both in terms of software programming and in terms of possible loss of reputation if these manipulations are detected).

I don't think it will cost them much in terms of software programming as they will tell the slot provider to do so and most likely most casinos do this.I have no way to prove it except my personal experience which is the same as yours,I never have received significant amounts of winning from these spins and I have gotten a lot of them as a couple of years ago I used to play in a casino in which you had to level up every month to reap some benefits,mainly free spins from the slots you played the most and the result almost always the same,very little winnings.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: retreat on September 18, 2023, 01:15:30 PM
Free spins are actually like free candy for children - just as bait to get you interested - and when you feel that it's fun, then you will be interested in opening an account on the platform or continuing to play. Free spins have been set by the developer so that they don't harm the casino, so no matter how you try it, the reward shouldn't be much. However, unlike a demo account, the rewards offered by free spins are real and they will be sent to your account and you can withdraw it.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: ralle14 on September 19, 2023, 12:07:58 AM
The bonus free spins they offer from the start shouldn't feel like a demo when you have a chance of winning money, but clearing the bonus is difficult because even if you triple your bankroll, you still need to keep going until you hit the wagering requirement.

On top of that, some bonuses even have a rule about a maximum win and take away the extra amount if you go over the limit. This is one of the many reasons I always avoid free spins because it's much harder to win and the good ones usually have a one-time wagering requirement.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Bitinity on September 19, 2023, 04:20:25 AM
Free spins bonus on registration give you the copportunity to earn real money (after completing the requirements), while demo mode not give you the same opportunity as free spins. It is clear that both are different. Although you got the same amount as your friends from the free spins, but did you all get the same result while trying to complete the requirement? Or are you referring to "wager-free" free spins promotion? Would you mind to share in which casinos you all took the free spins bonus and got the same amount from the free spins?


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on September 19, 2023, 04:22:20 AM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you?

Yes, in my personal experience, yes. The last ones I had were as a reward in the livecasino.io campaign over several weeks. Some of them I didn't get much, as they were $25 worth of free spins from which I got about $10 or $15 which I bet again and lost, but there were a couple of weeks where I got more than $100 which I withdrew immediately. That was the equivalent of a full week's payout from signature campaigns.

As I see, other fellow campaigners, like Coin_trader, had a similar experience, and I agree with most replies that free spins are different to demo.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: summonerrk on September 19, 2023, 05:15:20 AM
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I think that we should not confuse the concepts of fake roulette and demo roulette. In your post, you mean casino games that do not have a real basis, which means you would need to use the concept of a fake game. In which the result is predetermined in advance - in the description of your opinion it is $ 15. And a demo account is a fair game with a real foundation, but not for real money, nevertheless with an unpredictable result.

I think that the game even on free spins is real and everyone can both lose their bonus money and win a really big win, just like any player playing for real money.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Negotiation on September 19, 2023, 12:06:29 PM
Free spins seem superior to any bonus but the terms of the award can be a bit different. Depending on your risk appetite maximum withdrawal options and even casino game preferences it's important to understand how free spins compare to deposit bonuses. If you win more than the maximum amount while playing with the free spins the free spins will continue to run but the additional winnings will not be transferred to your bonus account. It should be noted that even if you hit the progressive jackpot while playing with your free spins bonus codes most free spin promotions will pay you out in full while the risk is high. Of all the casino games video slots are the most popular with most players at many online casinos players can be very interested in slots.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: KTChampions on September 19, 2023, 12:58:25 PM
I tried free spins several times, but if I remember correctly I always received zero or an insignificant amount (something like a dollar). I don’t think that free spins are somehow rigged and differ from a regular game - for a casino this tuning will obviously cost more than a fair game (both in terms of software programming and in terms of possible loss of reputation if these manipulations are detected).

I don't think it will cost them much in terms of software programming as they will tell the slot provider to do so and most likely most casinos do this.I have no way to prove it except my personal experience which is the same as yours,I never have received significant amounts of winning from these spins and I have gotten a lot of them as a couple of years ago I used to play in a casino in which you had to level up every month to reap some benefits,mainly free spins from the slots you played the most and the result almost always the same,very little winnings.

I think this is only possible theoretically. If you do such a thing, then at least several people on the casino side and several people on the slot provider side will be aware of this. Considering that the number of casinos is quite large (and there are also several slot providers), then almost everyone will know about such tricks and sooner or later there will be a leak with evidence. And this will definitely destroy/severely harm both the casino and the slot provider. I don't think serious business is ready to take such a risk.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: xSkylarx on September 19, 2023, 01:06:58 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416178.msg62824467#msg62824467 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416178.msg62824467#msg62824467)

So I got one big zero from 20 free spins at $0.2 bet... It takes a lot of luck to hit a bonus round or a bigger win through free spins! I claimed many free spins from different promotions, but I can't say I was lucky, maybe once or twice I had some significant wins. With just 20-30 spins I usually get 0 - 1$, which is nothing.

It is only a rare case that people win in free spins because this is only meant to feel them to play their game and if ever you win there are still things you need to consider because casinos right now won't allow a withdrawal if you haven't reached their requirements and there are a wagering requirement that you need to bet money on before you can withdraw. But I have still seen people get lucky on free spins but it's not that much money but still you are lucky to win it.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on September 19, 2023, 01:17:28 PM
Are free slots even real?
Free spins are real. And they are used by online casinos to attract new customers. You can win win real money from them too. And their outcomes largely depends on luck just with the regular spins. Whenever an online casino offers me a free spin or any other incentives that I didn't exchange money for, I do not get too excited or comfortable with it. I do not take it as seriously as I do with other spins.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 19, 2023, 01:44:34 PM
Are free slots even real?
Free spins are real. And they are used by online casinos to attract new customers. You can win win real money from them too. And their outcomes largely depends on luck just with the regular spins. Whenever an online casino offers me a free spin or any other incentives that I didn't exchange money for, I do not get too excited or comfortable with it. I do not take it as seriously as I do with other spins.
But he should check what requirements are needed to get his free spins because they often apply requirements that even novice gamblers don't check and just play. But it turns out they can't get the free spins because requirements such as initial deposits or wagering requirements must be met, ultimately making novice gamblers trapped. Shady casinos often do this to make novice gamblers helpless and unable to withdraw their money, including their winnings, because other requirements must be met. So be careful if you come across free spins and always check the terms before you take them.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: AicecreaME on September 19, 2023, 02:07:31 PM
Free spins and demo account in gambling are two different things. Free spins are given most commonly when you sign up for an account and is still a newbie. This is usually done to encourage the players to deposit and play more. This way, the casino will have an increase traffic in terms of the website usage, and at the same time, they can earn more profit too because of the money expenditures of the players.

If you want to have an experience about a demo account, there are many sites and platforms to choose from so you can practice. Demo accounts are for honing your skills and grasping the nature of the game. Meanwhile, free spins are typically bonuses given without a cost to engage you from further activities. So I think you had a misconception about it because of the same results you got with your friend.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: YOSHIE on September 19, 2023, 02:42:36 PM
And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
That's how we feel in every free spin at an online casino, slots are one of the games that are often required to bet, to be honest you really don't get any of that, Even if there is, what is certain is that you have to complete the deposit requirements and everything ends in a matter of minutes.

I have been gambling for a long time on online gambling sites, whatever bonuses are offered, I really don't tempt myself, I think free bets are really one of the tricks to attract users or demo, but it's really a game that users who use free bonuses never get.

Talking about free spins, it only makes you addicted and want to repeat again with the deposit money, free spins are the most effective hypnosis in every online casino, you really make you curious to do it again, that's a free bonus.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: topbitcoin on September 19, 2023, 04:04:49 PM
And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
Bonus rounds or what are often called free spins are real and getting bonus rounds is the hope of all gamblers who play slot gambling. The bonus round really determines whether we can get a big win or not. When the slot gambling game was first released, I really believed that when I got the bonus round, I would get wins and profits from the slot gambling that I played. but for now I don't believe in the bonus round anymore because when I get it it's often empty. So for now I don't think the bonus round can promise that you will get a profit when you get the round even if you get it several times.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Jossque on September 19, 2023, 06:03:20 PM
Free spins are given as a bonus in a way to try your luck on the site.It is normal that you will not see a large amount of winnings here, but if it gives you winnings, you will want to upload money to the site.This is obviously the reason why sites give free spins.Some sites give you winnings in return for these free spins and in this way, seeing that there is a profit here, you want to throw money and win more.This means that the site achieves its purpose.
15 dollars may not be a big win, but you can see what made you want to give it a try, you wondered exactly how much you would make and you signed up for all the free spins sites one by one, which was a separate experience for you, but if you didn't have these free spins you wouldn't have signed up for all of these sites one by one.
As long as it gives free spins, I honestly don't even try it. As you have experienced, it does not give a high amount of money and it is not even worth spending time on it.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: milewilda on September 19, 2023, 06:20:58 PM
Are free slots even real?
Free spins are real. And they are used by online casinos to attract new customers. You can win win real money from them too. And their outcomes largely depends on luck just with the regular spins. Whenever an online casino offers me a free spin or any other incentives that I didn't exchange money for, I do not get too excited or comfortable with it. I do not take it as seriously as I do with other spins.
But he should check what requirements are needed to get his free spins because they often apply requirements that even novice gamblers don't check and just play. But it turns out they can't get the free spins because requirements such as initial deposits or wagering requirements must be met, ultimately making novice gamblers trapped. Shady casinos often do this to make novice gamblers helpless and unable to withdraw their money, including their winnings, because other requirements must be met. So be careful if you come across free spins and always check the terms before you take them.
Reading or be wary is really that something that must do because we know that if there's something free then expect that there would really be conditions which needs to be met up for you to be able to withdraw and knowing bonuses or free spins or whatsoever that really in correlates about bonuses then for sure then it would really be that having those terms which needs to be that able need to hit up before you could withdraw.
Casinos would really be always loving on trapping us inside and its not really that new anymore or something that we can say or called to be the standard thing on which it is really just that right that you would be needing to be wary into those terms so that you wont really be finding yourself that too desperate on the time that you do gamble just because you are really that expecting or anticipating something. Demo in disguise? Doesnt matter
if its demo or not because these are things that would really be affecting you out. It turns out that free spins could make up that possible hit with real winnings whereas demo is really that different in  talks of that.
In overall in speaking about hooking up people to make more deposit is really that likely and this is something that must be avoided in the first place or needing to make yourself having the control.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: dezoel on September 19, 2023, 08:12:00 PM
Free spins are not really like a demo where you are given some free money to spin and win whatever you can which isn't usable, because with free spins, whatever you win can be yours, however, there is surely a catch every time you get free spins for simply creating an account on a casino platform because you can obviously not be able to withdraw whatever you win using those free spins and the casino would need something out of you as well in return.

So, when you get free spins, and manage to win some money, you will either be asked to complete a certain wagering requirement to be able to make a withdrawal which will usually be insane and one can barely complete it, or they will ask you to first make a deposit to be able to use the money you've managed to win, in both ways, you are not getting anything.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Yatsan on September 19, 2023, 11:14:36 PM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
Ofcourse it works in such way. First of all, casinos cannot allow players to win bigtime without making any deposit ‘coz that would be an instant loss to them and also it would be subjected to abuse. Free spins are being used as a demo for players to know what’s the feeling of being in their website. Comparison I guess is with free taste in the mall especially if they are introducing a new product to the public and that is to simply create an impression to those who would be willing to try what’s being offered. It is simply a strategy to market their platform. Then it would go to another representation as a demo. Whenever we are buying something we would want to know how does it actually feel with a particular product. The purpose of free spins is to simply allow outside players to “feel” that platform. Rewards most of the time are tokens which are consumable within the platform to push players to use it on actual betting and the possibility of them to create an actual deposit once their ‘free tokens’ are all consumed.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: danherbias07 on September 19, 2023, 11:30:01 PM
Are free slots even real?
Free spins are real. And they are used by online casinos to attract new customers. You can win win real money from them too. And their outcomes largely depends on luck just with the regular spins. Whenever an online casino offers me a free spin or any other incentives that I didn't exchange money for, I do not get too excited or comfortable with it. I do not take it as seriously as I do with other spins.
And that's the right way to approach these free spins. Don't expect anything, it won't give something as good as it gives on the normal spins in slots. We won't get a long combo or a surprising multi-win with it. It's free so take whatever they give and make it as an initial money to play the normal ones where we could get the jackpot that we are looking for.
Like what I said in my previous post, $15-20 should be a good win because you cannot pick that up on the street, and for some people that's a lot of money already. We should not treat free spins like it is what will save us from being poor. Besides that, gambling sites do know about those who abuse this feature so obviously, they will also control the prize amount that free spins will give out.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: alegotardo on September 20, 2023, 01:29:53 AM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

If we consider that the casino is reputable and reputable (has a good reputation), then I would believe that the free spins are indeed fair.

The intention of casinos in offering free spins is to allow their customers to get to know the games better, get used to the game mechanics and decide whether or not they will be willing to bet real money on it.
Following this logical reasoning, how could casinos attract a player's attention if these rounds were manipulated to give him a bad result?
I believe they are as fair as any other.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Oasisman on September 20, 2023, 01:54:26 AM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

If we consider that the casino is reputable and reputable (has a good reputation), then I would believe that the free spins are indeed fair.

The intention of casinos in offering free spins is to allow their customers to get to know the games better, get used to the game mechanics and decide whether or not they will be willing to bet real money on it.
Following this logical reasoning, how could casinos attract a player's attention if these rounds were manipulated to give him a bad result?
I believe they are as fair as any other.

This made sense. Free spins are supposed to be fair like how every spin you make when you're betting with your own money. Otherwise, no client are going to stay longer in a casino that's obviously being rigged to take money from their clients.
Now, the OP is confused with the free spins he thought it's the same thing as for the demo account, an account which the money from that account is certainly for demo purposes only, which means it doesn't have real value or it's something withdrawable. Demo accounts have the same purpose with free spins, to have the client experience the casino's UI/UX and get familiar with their games, the only thing that differs, is that free spins are the real ones.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 20, 2023, 04:53:34 AM
Reading or be wary is really that something that must do because we know that if there's something free then expect that there would really be conditions which needs to be met up for you to be able to withdraw and knowing bonuses or free spins or whatsoever that really in correlates about bonuses then for sure then it would really be that having those terms which needs to be that able need to hit up before you could withdraw.
Casinos would really be always loving on trapping us inside and its not really that new anymore or something that we can say or called to be the standard thing on which it is really just that right that you would be needing to be wary into those terms so that you wont really be finding yourself that too desperate on the time that you do gamble just because you are really that expecting or anticipating something. Demo in disguise? Doesnt matter
if its demo or not because these are things that would really be affecting you out. It turns out that free spins could make up that possible hit with real winnings whereas demo is really that different in  talks of that.
In overall in speaking about hooking up people to make more deposit is really that likely and this is something that must be avoided in the first place or needing to make yourself having the control.
Casinos may not intend to trap us in a promotion, but they put their terms in words that we may not pay attention to so many of us are unaware of the terms. And that's what causes many gamblers not to be able to complete the requirements and are disappointed because they failed to get those free spins. But if they could see and then read the terms and think it was difficult for them, they might not try to take the free spins because of the difficulty in fulfilling the terms.

But those free spins are not a demo in disguise because at least there are gamblers who can get something out of those free spins and they get it without any hassle. And they are the ones who are willing to take the time to find out what the requirements are if there are any, and if there aren't any, they will be happy to take it and so will we, we will take it.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Lanatsa on September 20, 2023, 04:58:18 AM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

If we consider that the casino is reputable and reputable (has a good reputation), then I would believe that the free spins are indeed fair.

The intention of casinos in offering free spins is to allow their customers to get to know the games better, get used to the game mechanics and decide whether or not they will be willing to bet real money on it.
Following this logical reasoning, how could casinos attract a player's attention if these rounds were manipulated to give him a bad result?
I believe they are as fair as any other.

This made sense. Free spins are supposed to be fair like how every spin you make when you're betting with your own money. Otherwise, no client are going to stay longer in a casino that's obviously being rigged to take money from their clients.
Now, the OP is confused with the free spins he thought it's the same thing as for the demo account, an account which the money from that account is certainly for demo purposes only, which means it doesn't have real value or it's something withdrawable. Demo accounts have the same purpose with free spins, to have the client experience the casino's UI/UX and get familiar with their games, the only thing that differs, is that free spins are the real ones.
You do able to get some free spins most likely when you do make a deposit and some promotions or perks that would be sent out into your account on which this could really be potentially be able to make you earn

incase you are that lucky on winning those free spins knowing that they do really have that wagering requirement which it is really just that normal.They cant really just give out without having those requirements because you could be able to pull it out. From the word demo itself then those balances are fake ones or doesnt have value and i dont really see about free spins other than if we do speak literally that could really
really be able to have those free spins.  :P
Doesnt matter though whether you are playing with free spins or demo because you cant really be still able to beat up the house and make yourself that profitable.Slots are interesting and entertaining
but in speaking about winning then most gamblers are really that bound or destined on losing your money in the end.This is the sad reality and this is why you should really be
wary about your actions.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: iv4n on September 20, 2023, 05:52:19 AM
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It is only a rare case that people win in free spins because this is only meant to feel them to play their game and if ever you win there are still things you need to consider because casinos right now won't allow a withdrawal if you haven't reached their requirements and there are a wagering requirement that you need to bet money on before you can withdraw. But I have still seen people get lucky on free spins but it's not that much money but still you are lucky to win it.

There are some deposit promotions with +50,100,200 free spins (depending on how much money you deposit), and that can be a different story. But even with so many spins (I tried this kind of promotion more than once, in more than one casino) there are no guarantees that we will hit some big win or bonus round.

Lately, in many casinos free spins are for Pragmatic slots, and I can't play Pragmatic. It's silly when we get some free spins, but we can't use them... happened to me a few times already.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: davis196 on September 20, 2023, 06:12:01 AM
Are free slots even real? I have tried few casinos that offers free spins on registering on the platforms and I haven't seen any crazy gains with free spins before, have you? That's not why I am here though, I am just curious.

The reason why I am here is to know if free spins are like demo too, I asked this because two of my friend including myself open account of a online casino and after using all the free spins we got the same result, around $15, I am curious why, because it looks like a matched up way to keep people hoping for more.

And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.

I guess that there's a little bit of misunderstanding about what the word "demo" actually means. Demo is not a bonus. Those are two different terms and they have different meaning.
The demo version is just a way to test the features of a website. I haven't seen online casinos offering a demo version. So far, I have tried several demo versions of day trading platforms.
Free spins are just a bonus offer, that was made to hook more players into a platform. Yes, they are "a matched up way to keep people hoping for more". Do you really expect to win big from free spins? I don't expect to win big money even from paid spins. I'm not a fan of slots in general.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Wind_FURY on September 20, 2023, 09:59:37 AM
OP, "a demo in disguise"? I believe not. You said you and your friend won $15.00 from free spins. That's actually not very bad! You can't actually expect to win hundreds or thousands from free spins unless they're for slot-machines with progressive jackpots, no?

I won multiple times more than a 100$ on free spin from Livecasino free spin bonus on our signature campaign. I remember winning same amount on Winz.io free spin and Bitcasino. 100$ and above is possible to win free spin depending on the max multiplier and the bet amount of the free spin.

There’s a wagering requirements on free spin rewards so I doubt that casino will provide capped on winning possibilities since most of the free spin offer by other casino requires deposit for wagering since the free spin reward is lock. Just saying that free spin is not different on normal in terms of max profit potential.

I'm sure it's possible, if you're lucky. I won $25.00 from "Diggy's Hole" before when BlackJack.fun had their promos and daily/weekly voting tournaments, and I consider that a good win from mere free spins. But what I was telling OP was we won't win a very large jackpot unless the slot-machine had a progressive jackpot that adds more to the vault as more and more money goes into it.

Weren't you a regular BlackJack.fun player before? I believe you're the one who's good at BlackJack. 8)


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Coin_trader on September 20, 2023, 02:54:07 PM
OP, "a demo in disguise"? I believe not. You said you and your friend won $15.00 from free spins. That's actually not very bad! You can't actually expect to win hundreds or thousands from free spins unless they're for slot-machines with progressive jackpots, no?

I won multiple times more than a 100$ on free spin from Livecasino free spin bonus on our signature campaign. I remember winning same amount on Winz.io free spin and Bitcasino. 100$ and above is possible to win free spin depending on the max multiplier and the bet amount of the free spin.

There’s a wagering requirements on free spin rewards so I doubt that casino will provide capped on winning possibilities since most of the free spin offer by other casino requires deposit for wagering since the free spin reward is lock. Just saying that free spin is not different on normal in terms of max profit potential.

I'm sure it's possible, if you're lucky. I won $25.00 from "Diggy's Hole" before when BlackJack.fun had their promos and daily/weekly voting tournaments, and I consider that a good win from mere free spins. But what I was telling OP was we won't win a very large jackpot unless the slot-machine had a progressive jackpot that adds more to the vault as more and more money goes into it.

Weren't you a regular BlackJack.fun player before? I believe you're the one who's good at BlackJack. 8)

Do you mean digdigdigger right?  :D

Yeah, I understand what you are trying point out here. I just share some of my experience about winning big using a mere free spin. I really missed the previous version of Blackjack.fun which they have a weekly reward for VIP user that wager above 1BTC and the free spin that has no wagering requirements. I remember winning 2mbtc on it just with my 25 free spin.

I’m not good on Blackjack, I’m just regularly playing that’s why I can manage my gameplay properly using the standard strategy.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: tusandii on September 20, 2023, 07:03:31 PM
Reading or be wary is really that something that must do because we know that if there's something free then expect that there would really be conditions which needs to be met up for you to be able to withdraw and knowing bonuses or free spins or whatsoever that really in correlates about bonuses then for sure then it would really be that having those terms which needs to be that able need to hit up before you could withdraw.
Casinos would really be always loving on trapping us inside and its not really that new anymore or something that we can say or called to be the standard thing on which it is really just that right that you would be needing to be wary into those terms so that you wont really be finding yourself that too desperate on the time that you do gamble just because you are really that expecting or anticipating something. Demo in disguise? Doesnt matter
if its demo or not because these are things that would really be affecting you out. It turns out that free spins could make up that possible hit with real winnings whereas demo is really that different in  talks of that.
In overall in speaking about hooking up people to make more deposit is really that likely and this is something that must be avoided in the first place or needing to make yourself having the control.
Casinos may not intend to trap us in a promotion, but they put their terms in words that we may not pay attention to so many of us are unaware of the terms. And that's what causes many gamblers not to be able to complete the requirements and are disappointed because they failed to get those free spins. But if they could see and then read the terms and think it was difficult for them, they might not try to take the free spins because of the difficulty in fulfilling the terms.

But those free spins are not a demo in disguise because at least there are gamblers who can get something out of those free spins and they get it without any hassle. And they are the ones who are willing to take the time to find out what the requirements are if there are any, and if there aren't any, they will be happy to take it and so will we, we will take it.
However, unfortunately there are still many gamblers who are too interested in this kind of promotion even though it is very clear that it is just a promotion to attract the attention of other gamblers to try the casino.
I won't say that the promise is like a trap, but indeed promotions always exaggerate, but when you want to get the promotion you have to be able to meet the conditions that must be met and with curiosity and encouragement to get free spins, gamblers try to do it but fail to reach the specified conditions and promotions like This also exists in any casino, especially new casinos.

Yes, there may still be some gamblers who have succeeded in achieving these requirements, but only a small number are lucky because currently casinos are very strict and have very difficult conditions and remember, casinos don't want to lose.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: uneng on September 20, 2023, 08:15:30 PM
And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
Due to the fact we need to reach some wagering amounts to claim free spins, I'm not into them, because I know it's a worthless risk to be taken. The reward just doesn't worth the risk of losing your money reaching the wagering requirements. The only free spins I have been collecting and using are the ones from freebitco.in wheel of fortune. Every day they give one free spin on your email. Back then, when the feature was firstly introduced, I remember getting some nice top prizes from the wheel, like 5000 satoshis and RPs. However, nowadays I only get the minimal prizes, like 40 satoshis, tickets and RPs.

I don't think they are a demo thing, but without any doubts their main purpose is to work as a marketing campaign for the platform, and not exactly to benefit gamblers with interesting rewards.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: dothebeats on September 20, 2023, 11:29:50 PM
And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
Due to the fact we need to reach some wagering amounts to claim free spins, I'm not into them, because I know it's a worthless risk to be taken. The reward just doesn't worth the risk of losing your money reaching the wagering requirements. The only free spins I have been collecting and using are the ones from freebitco.in wheel of fortune. Every day they give one free spin on your email. Back then, when the feature was firstly introduced, I remember getting some nice top prizes from the wheel, like 5000 satoshis and RPs. However, nowadays I only get the minimal prizes, like 40 satoshis, tickets and RPs.

I don't think they are a demo thing, but without any doubts their main purpose is to work as a marketing campaign for the platform, and not exactly to benefit gamblers with interesting rewards.

One thing you can do is to just play and not look for promotions in order to not get conscious of your progress and be able to play regularly without the need to chase anything. Eventually, you’ll just get the wagering requirements without you knowing, and that’s an additional $$$ for you to bet on more games and have more chances of converting that free spin into something profitable.

Thinking of promotions is one way of making yourself anxious on your betting patterns while the promotion is active, that's why I'm not a fan of promotions.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 21, 2023, 07:35:14 AM
However, unfortunately there are still many gamblers who are too interested in this kind of promotion even though it is very clear that it is just a promotion to attract the attention of other gamblers to try the casino.
I won't say that the promise is like a trap, but indeed promotions always exaggerate, but when you want to get the promotion you have to be able to meet the conditions that must be met and with curiosity and encouragement to get free spins, gamblers try to do it but fail to reach the specified conditions and promotions like This also exists in any casino, especially new casinos.

Yes, there may still be some gamblers who have succeeded in achieving these requirements, but only a small number are lucky because currently casinos are very strict and have very difficult conditions and remember, casinos don't want to lose.
That's because the promotions they see are very attractive so they are tempted to try to get the promotion so they will deposit more money because of the promotions they see. Some promotions have wagering requirements so they have to fulfill them. After they get the free spins, they then play it and hope to get a lot of money but it will depend on luck so they can just wait for the results to come out.

Some gamblers have achieved these requirements and earned a lot of money as a result. However, many gamblers fail to meet that requirement because they lose and spend a few dollars. So they should understand whether what they are doing is worth it or just a waste of money so they don't have to try to get those free spins.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: dezoel on September 21, 2023, 06:02:45 PM
However, unfortunately there are still many gamblers who are too interested in this kind of promotion even though it is very clear that it is just a promotion to attract the attention of other gamblers to try the casino.
I won't say that the promise is like a trap, but indeed promotions always exaggerate, but when you want to get the promotion you have to be able to meet the conditions that must be met and with curiosity and encouragement to get free spins, gamblers try to do it but fail to reach the specified conditions and promotions like This also exists in any casino, especially new casinos.

Yes, there may still be some gamblers who have succeeded in achieving these requirements, but only a small number are lucky because currently casinos are very strict and have very difficult conditions and remember, casinos don't want to lose.
That's because the promotions they see are very attractive so they are tempted to try to get the promotion so they will deposit more money because of the promotions they see. Some promotions have wagering requirements so they have to fulfill them. After they get the free spins, they then play it and hope to get a lot of money but it will depend on luck so they can just wait for the results to come out.

Some gamblers have achieved these requirements and earned a lot of money as a result. However, many gamblers fail to meet that requirement because they lose and spend a few dollars. So they should understand whether what they are doing is worth it or just a waste of money so they don't have to try to get those free spins.
Not some but all promotions and bonuses come with a certain wagering requirement, it's usually pretty high for the reason that gamblers shouldn't be able to complete it with just the amount that they've deposited because if they complete the wagering requirement successfully with the bonus and the deposited amount, they will be able to stay in profit and make a withdrawal successfully, but if they lose and fail to do that, the casino won't lose anything.

The wagering requirements are usually very high that a user can barely be able to complete it. Imagine making a deposit of $200 to get a $400 bonus and having to complete a 20x or more wagering requirement which means you will have to wager $12k to be able to make a withdrawal which is insane and you will lose everything before that.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: BitcoinTurk on September 21, 2023, 07:07:22 PM
Are free slots even real?

There are big differences between free spins and demo accounts. A demo account is a type of trial membership where you can gamble with a virtual balance and test the service but free spins are generally a free gift added to your account to experience a single game and as an incentive.

Free spins allow you to gain experience with realistic results especially recently because making very serious profits with free spins has become a marketing strategy that is no longer very effective. For this reason, many casino services today provide free spins to experience just like a real game is being played.

Another difference of free spins compared to demo accounts is that they allow you to gamble with reasonable amounts. Of course, there is an upper limit in demo accounts but in such accounts, games that didn't reflect reality were generally played due to very high balances and this didn't have a serious financial advantage for the casinos. In addition with free spins, it is aimed for users to experience the game for a limited time and then play the real game by depositing money into their accounts.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Bitinity on September 22, 2023, 06:32:29 AM
And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
Due to the fact we need to reach some wagering amounts to claim free spins, I'm not into them, because I know it's a worthless risk to be taken. The reward just doesn't worth the risk of losing your money reaching the wagering requirements.

If it is free spins promotion where there is a requirement to make deposit first or later to wager the winning from the free spins, yes it does not worth the risk but if it is pure free spins without deposit requirement, it has no risk at all so it worth to take at least players can try their luck and try some other games on the site. That's the purpose of free spins bonus without deposit, giving players the chance to test the casino without any risk while there is also a chance to make money (if lucky) at the same time.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: noormcs5 on September 22, 2023, 06:37:13 AM
And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
Due to the fact we need to reach some wagering amounts to claim free spins, I'm not into them, because I know it's a worthless risk to be taken. The reward just doesn't worth the risk of losing your money reaching the wagering requirements.

If it is free spins promotion where there is a requirement to make deposit first or later to wager the winning from the free spins, yes it does not worth the risk but if it is pure free spins without deposit requirement, it has no risk at all so it worth to take at least players can try their luck and try some other games on the site. That's the purpose of free spins bonus without deposit, giving players the chance to test the casino without any risk while there is also a chance to make money (if lucky) at the same time.

The catch with the 2nd method is that they will give you free spins without any deposit requirement. You lose the free spins, no one loses the money, not you nor the gambling casino.

In case you win, then the gambling sites will require you to deposit first before withdrawal. The withdrawals will have wagering requirements for your initial deposits. Once you try to wager your deposit, you lose all the deposit and the winning amount from free spins becomes unimportant as you already have lost your deposited money.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: xSkylarx on September 22, 2023, 06:42:24 AM
Another reason is to test out their games and also familiarize yourself with the game but even if you got lucky most casinos now require you to make a deposit and wager a required amount before you can withdraw your winnings.
 
Those who earn free spins are some sort of reward to the existing gambler on the casino so that they can try their luck and it is different from those newly signed up gamblers in that it is the marketing strategy of the casino to attract more gamblers to sign up.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: ethereumhunter on September 22, 2023, 08:11:51 AM
Not some but all promotions and bonuses come with a certain wagering requirement, it's usually pretty high for the reason that gamblers shouldn't be able to complete it with just the amount that they've deposited because if they complete the wagering requirement successfully with the bonus and the deposited amount, they will be able to stay in profit and make a withdrawal successfully, but if they lose and fail to do that, the casino won't lose anything.

The wagering requirements are usually very high that a user can barely be able to complete it. Imagine making a deposit of $200 to get a $400 bonus and having to complete a 20x or more wagering requirement which means you will have to wager $12k to be able to make a withdrawal which is insane and you will lose everything before that.
Gamblers should understand that if some promotions and bonuses have certain wagering requirements that are too high, they should not try to take them because it could get them into trouble. They should look for promotions and other bonuses that do not have other requirements to make it easier to get. After all, playing normally and not chasing promotions and bonuses is also fine for them and it will be better for them so they won't have any problems.

High betting requirements only cause us to deposit other amounts of money and can experience losing a lot of money, which many people still don't realize, so their desires trap them. We have to be more careful if we want to take promotions and bonuses from casinos and have to study the terms carefully so that we don't misunderstand them.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: piebeyb on September 22, 2023, 08:42:29 AM
Another reason is to test out their games and also familiarize yourself with the game but even if you got lucky most casinos now require you to make a deposit and wager a required amount before you can withdraw your winnings.
 
Those who earn free spins are some sort of reward to the existing gambler on the casino so that they can try their luck and it is different from those newly signed up gamblers in that it is the marketing strategy of the casino to attract more gamblers to sign up.
Actually there are types of free spins like faucets and sometimes also spins in slot games, but it's true that I've also gotten them from email promotions because to attract their users who haven't been active for long, I happened to get an email of free spins in slot games and I claimed that get 50 free spins and the win is not an absolute win.

I have to make a deposit to claim the winnings and also continue playing, actually I don't really like slot games but because there is a promotion there's no harm in trying because slot games are easy and just wait for luck without needing any strategy, so play by getting a win. but after that I had to make a deposit I didn't do it because it was a new site being promoted on this forum so it was a bit prone to making a deposit of some money which I thought was not very reasonable for me. as you said that's a promotion to test the game, so just skip it  :D


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Wind_FURY on September 22, 2023, 02:05:13 PM

OP, "a demo in disguise"? I believe not. You said you and your friend won $15.00 from free spins. That's actually not very bad! You can't actually expect to win hundreds or thousands from free spins unless they're for slot-machines with progressive jackpots, no?

I won multiple times more than a 100$ on free spin from Livecasino free spin bonus on our signature campaign. I remember winning same amount on Winz.io free spin and Bitcasino. 100$ and above is possible to win free spin depending on the max multiplier and the bet amount of the free spin.

There’s a wagering requirements on free spin rewards so I doubt that casino will provide capped on winning possibilities since most of the free spin offer by other casino requires deposit for wagering since the free spin reward is lock. Just saying that free spin is not different on normal in terms of max profit potential.

I'm sure it's possible, if you're lucky. I won $25.00 from "Diggy's Hole" before when BlackJack.fun had their promos and daily/weekly voting tournaments, and I consider that a good win from mere free spins. But what I was telling OP was we won't win a very large jackpot unless the slot-machine had a progressive jackpot that adds more to the vault as more and more money goes into it.

Weren't you a regular BlackJack.fun player before? I believe you're the one who's good at BlackJack. 8)

Do you mean digdigdigger right?  :D



Hahaha YES! We always joke in the community chat to bring lotion everytime they go "into Diggy's hole" because it was like we were taking advantage of the slot machine from all of out free spins.

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Yeah, I understand what you are trying point out here. I just share some of my experience about winning big using a mere free spin. I really missed the previous version of Blackjack.fun which they have a weekly reward for VIP user that wager above 1BTC and the free spin that has no wagering requirements. I remember winning 2mbtc on it just with my 25 free spin.


Yeah, I miss the original version of BlackJack.fun, it incentivized the players which also might have helped in starting a good community for the casino. Everyone was familiar with everyone else in the chat, and we had our own bets on who would win the weekly wagering tournaments. 8)

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I’m not good on Blackjack, I’m just regularly playing that’s why I can manage my gameplay properly using the standard strategy.
 

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Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: panjul07 on September 22, 2023, 02:15:54 PM
Another reason is to test out their games and also familiarize yourself with the game but even if you got lucky most casinos now require you to make a deposit and wager a required amount before you can withdraw your winnings.
 
Those who earn free spins are some sort of reward to the existing gambler on the casino so that they can try their luck and it is different from those newly signed up gamblers in that it is the marketing strategy of the casino to attract more gamblers to sign up.
Actually there are types of free spins like faucets and sometimes also spins in slot games, but it's true that I've also gotten them from email promotions because to attract their users who haven't been active for long, I happened to get an email of free spins in slot games and I claimed that get 50 free spins and the win is not an absolute win.

I have to make a deposit to claim the winnings and also continue playing, actually I don't really like slot games but because there is a promotion there's no harm in trying because slot games are easy and just wait for luck without needing any strategy, so play by getting a win. but after that I had to make a deposit I didn't do it because it was a new site being promoted on this forum so it was a bit prone to making a deposit of some money which I thought was not very reasonable for me. as you said that's a promotion to test the game, so just skip it  :D

Every casino has their own terms related to winning from the free spins, in the past, free spins was 100% free without deposit required to claim the winning.
The only requirement was to complete the wagering requirement only, once players complete the wagering requirement, they are able to withdraw it.
These days, most free spins is not 100% free as what you said, most casinos will ask players to deposit in order to wager for the wagering requirement in order to unlock the winning from the free spins.
This is why it is always better to check the whole terms of the free spins bonus before decide to take it so it wont disappoint us.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: alastantiger on September 22, 2023, 09:04:53 PM
A casino will not intentionally mislead the public with free spins and demo spins. They know that it could cost them their reputation in the currently socially eager to report, tech savvy customers that patronize them. In free spins  there is something to win. Demo  just  gives you an idea of the game.

To the OP, sorry about your bad experiences. I believe you have read the comments from others here. You should look for the casinos that offer free spins and try again to come to a final conclusion.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Saint-loup on September 22, 2023, 09:59:29 PM
I don't think such free spins are rigged. But upon withdrawal of your winnings, they may impose conditions.
Such as you need to deposit or wager certain amount before you can get your winnings.
They won't just give your free spins like totally free, usually there are conditions need to be met.
Because if someone expose them that those free spins are not provably fair, I think, they will just ruin their promotions for nothing.
Yes I agree with you, I would never play again slots from a provider who rigs its free spins, because if he is able to rig his free spins, it means he's also able to rig real ones, and you can't spend money on a game you don't trust. Most of time, they require some conditions to get the winnings on your account and being able to withdraw them, some casinos like Fortunejack for example are always requiring many conditions when they offer bonuses.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Casdinyard on September 22, 2023, 10:13:37 PM
I don't think it is "demo" per se. If we're going for the technicalities, Free Spins aren't considered as demos cause for it to be a demo first and foremost, it has to be free, no charge, and you can cancel the service at any time. Free Spins come when you buy spins, and are literally just BOGO bundles. So at most it's considered as BOGO or a freebie that you claim from buying the stuff that comes with it. And I don't think these free spins are in any way rigged at all unlike Demos that are manipulated to put up better odds to entice people into putting their money into. It's not how that works for most free spins as they are under the same odds and chances as would any other regular spin.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 22, 2023, 10:28:10 PM
Well, if OP's publication is about advertising a casino, then I don't see it as correct, if I see it as correct that they want to implement a way to generate awareness in young people, adolescents so that they can control themselves with the game, I don't see the initiative as bad, But if it is for that reason, then when we see, it is because by showing everything that the game can affect a person, they are things that children, adolescents, young people and even adults must see, know, the tragedies of the game when the person is not responsible enough, because it is not the fault of the casino, but rather it is the fault of the people who do not know how to control themselves, this includes emcoins, impulses, and everything that can be related to what is referred to this, in this order of ideas can conclude that by showing the different stages of education that the person can receive in a parade, it is high quality information, which if it prevents someone from being addicted, then we would be fulfilling the true reason for this, when it is seen that something is educational and as I have said before, it seems to me that it is something great, something that I support, the more information the person has about some activity I will always see it as something influential and that should be known, but if it is something like a Publicity strategy for a caisno, I don't think so, because they are already starting with a deception, and it is not correct.

Everything related to the Casio, I know they have the right to advertise it however they want, but through deception it is not good to make it known, I know that now in this area there is a lot of competition, but if they want to attract attention by doing something that educates, then You can go in another direction where your objective, in addition to presenting a game , is first of all to Avoid action and to make it clear that the audience must first be educated before making a decision like playing a game, so on that side it is not all , Because it reminds me of Bitcasino.io that in their thread they always put references to great articles so that players can educate themselves and know much more.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: harizen on September 22, 2023, 11:58:51 PM
Yes I agree with you, I would never play again slots from a provider who rigs its free spins, because if he is able to rig his free spins, it means he's also able to rig real ones, and you can't spend money on a game you don't trust. Most of time, they require some conditions to get the winnings on your account and being able to withdraw them, some casinos like Fortunejack for example are always requiring many conditions when they offer bonuses.

Hmm, I doubt game providers will rig those free spins. It's just that most users are not just lucky and they blamed those free spins as rigged lol.

And also obviously, free spin bonuses for new users should always expected to be associated with conditions before able to be withdrawn. There's no way winnings from free spins don't have a condition. It's good for me that there are free spins associated with new accounts as part of a welcome gift. Of course, don't take it literally as free to the point that users won't have to do anything before winnings can be claimed.

Just enjoy it and at most casinos, there's an option not to received those bonuses and just directly straight into normal deposit.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: nimogsm on September 23, 2023, 09:40:36 AM
free spins are most often part of a marketing campaign to attract new players and in 99% of cases you need to make a deposit in order to withdraw your bonus. I have never been lucky enough to win a large amount from free spins, most often it was 10-15 dollars and no more. I think the casino will not pay big bonuses for beginners.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: bayu7adi on September 23, 2023, 09:47:29 AM
IMO, free spins are a business strategy to attract people to play on their slot platform. For gambling sites with a strong reputation, this might not generate much revenue. However, for gambling sites without a substantial reputation, they typically offer sizable rewards to entice users to make deposits.

Unfortunately, people here have better discernment, so choosing a casino platform isn't solely based on promotions; it also revolves around reputation and privacy. Even if a casino can offer something grand, if its website doesn't have a good reputation, users are likely to be hesitant to play there.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: Fatunad on September 23, 2023, 11:06:59 AM
Another reason is to test out their games and also familiarize yourself with the game but even if you got lucky most casinos now require you to make a deposit and wager a required amount before you can withdraw your winnings.
 
Those who earn free spins are some sort of reward to the existing gambler on the casino so that they can try their luck and it is different from those newly signed up gamblers in that it is the marketing strategy of the casino to attract more gamblers to sign up.
Actually there are types of free spins like faucets and sometimes also spins in slot games, but it's true that I've also gotten them from email promotions because to attract their users who haven't been active for long, I happened to get an email of free spins in slot games and I claimed that get 50 free spins and the win is not an absolute win.

I have to make a deposit to claim the winnings and also continue playing, actually I don't really like slot games but because there is a promotion there's no harm in trying because slot games are easy and just wait for luck without needing any strategy, so play by getting a win. but after that I had to make a deposit I didn't do it because it was a new site being promoted on this forum so it was a bit prone to making a deposit of some money which I thought was not very reasonable for me. as you said that's a promotion to test the game, so just skip it  :D

Every casino has their own terms related to winning from the free spins, in the past, free spins was 100% free without deposit required to claim the winning.
The only requirement was to complete the wagering requirement only, once players complete the wagering requirement, they are able to withdraw it.
These days, most free spins is not 100% free as what you said, most casinos will ask players to deposit in order to wager for the wagering requirement in order to unlock the winning from the free spins.
This is why it is always better to check the whole terms of the free spins bonus before decide to take it so it wont disappoint us.
Free spins are just free spins and there's nothing you can do with that but to play and make bets and any amount that you would win will really be subjected to wagering requirement. They cant really just give out
out those free spins for free and having no requirement before you could really be able to make out some withdrawal on which it would really be just that normal and there's no way that you could really be able to get out easily.  :D. Demo is different because we know its just free money or credit into your account and there's no chance or way for you to make money with that unless if there would really be some competition which do make use of demo balance then it would be nice but its unlikely because casinos cant really just give out that kind of opportunity which they do know that people or gamblers would really be able to easily make money
with that. Free spins arent really that a disguise and i dont really see any correlation in both things which we do know that it isnt something that will really be just that the same.

IMO, free spins are a business strategy to attract people to play on their slot platform. For gambling sites with a strong reputation, this might not generate much revenue. However, for gambling sites without a substantial reputation, they typically offer sizable rewards to entice users to make deposits.

For new casinos then they would really be that needing to be aggressive on increasing those numbers to hook up people to stay into their platform and we do know that it would really be just
that normal that they would really be having those kind of offering. Just take note or be careful that if things turns out to be too good to be true then it wont really be that bad
to make some indepth research.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: maydna on September 23, 2023, 12:16:21 PM
free spins are most often part of a marketing campaign to attract new players and in 99% of cases you need to make a deposit in order to withdraw your bonus. I have never been lucky enough to win a large amount from free spins, most often it was 10-15 dollars and no more. I think the casino will not pay big bonuses for beginners.
Yes, that's true, so that's what makes many gamblers want it. Newbie gamblers are interested in getting free spins, and they deposit some money to get those free spins. But to get big wins, gamblers need luck so that it can help them to win big. Some gamblers can get big wins, and we also often see them on this forum because they share their winnings with us, making us jealous and want to get it someday. But free spins are different from a demo because we often use real money to get that free spins. And if you do not want to lose much money, you must control yourself.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: fullhdpixel on September 23, 2023, 08:56:50 PM
free spins are most often part of a marketing campaign to attract new players and in 99% of cases you need to make a deposit in order to withdraw your bonus. I have never been lucky enough to win a large amount from free spins, most often it was 10-15 dollars and no more. I think the casino will not pay big bonuses for beginners.
Free bonuses are basically not to provide gamblers with huge profits but they are to give you an opportunity to try a certain game or platform and they will obviously ask you to make a deposit to be able to withdraw the money that you might have won from the free spins, and if they don't ask you for a deposit, they will ask you to complete a certain wagering requirement which will be pretty high and one can barely be able to complete that without any deposits.

That's why, you will barely find a gambler who has won something significant from free spins and they could also withdraw the money without any issues. New casinos use this to attract new gamblers, and old and reputable casinos will provide free spins as a part of a VIP program to keep the gamblers with them.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: goinmerry on September 23, 2023, 11:36:53 PM
That's why, you will barely find a gambler who has won something significant from free spins and they could also withdraw the money without any issues. New casinos use this to attract new gamblers, and old and reputable casinos will provide free spins as a part of a VIP program to keep the gamblers with them.

Some users are really expecting huge wins without any deposit involved that's why in the end, they will put some unusual reviews about those bonuses.

It should be obvious from the start that new users should not expect anything about those free spins they got at the start of their activity on that new site.

Free spins are not a demo disguise but rather sites are giving the opportunity for their new users to test the site. Unlike demo, this bonuses have a chance to give a win on those new users but don't expect it will happen most of the time. Casinos are not that dumb to just offer free stuffs to most of their users. They have business to keep operational at long time.


Title: Re: Free spins are also a demo in disguise?
Post by: komisariatku on September 23, 2023, 11:49:00 PM

Free spins are not a demo disguise but rather sites are giving the opportunity for their new users to test the site. Unlike demo, this bonuses have a chance to give a win on those new users but don't expect it will happen most of the time. Casinos are not that dumb to just offer free stuffs to most of their users. They have business to keep operational at long time.

Yes, that's right, the free spins given when first register are not demos, they can get big wins from these free spins. However, because the number of free spins given is limited, the opportunity to get a big win is very difficult. In addition, casinos also provide wagering requirements of a certain amount so that even if they can get big wins in free spins they will find it difficult to meet the wagering requirements.

Yes, as you said, casinos wouldn't be so stupid as to give away easy wins from freespins. It is given only to provide a gaming experience at their casino