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September 20, 2023, 11:29:50 PM
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And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
Due to the fact we need to reach some wagering amounts to claim free spins, I'm not into them, because I know it's a worthless risk to be taken. The reward just doesn't worth the risk of losing your money reaching the wagering requirements. The only free spins I have been collecting and using are the ones from freebitco.in wheel of fortune. Every day they give one free spin on your email. Back then, when the feature was firstly introduced, I remember getting some nice top prizes from the wheel, like 5000 satoshis and RPs. However, nowadays I only get the minimal prizes, like 40 satoshis, tickets and RPs.

I don't think they are a demo thing, but without any doubts their main purpose is to work as a marketing campaign for the platform, and not exactly to benefit gamblers with interesting rewards.

One thing you can do is to just play and not look for promotions in order to not get conscious of your progress and be able to play regularly without the need to chase anything. Eventually, you’ll just get the wagering requirements without you knowing, and that’s an additional $$$ for you to bet on more games and have more chances of converting that free spin into something profitable.

Thinking of promotions is one way of making yourself anxious on your betting patterns while the promotion is active, that's why I'm not a fan of promotions.

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September 21, 2023, 07:35:14 AM
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However, unfortunately there are still many gamblers who are too interested in this kind of promotion even though it is very clear that it is just a promotion to attract the attention of other gamblers to try the casino.
I won't say that the promise is like a trap, but indeed promotions always exaggerate, but when you want to get the promotion you have to be able to meet the conditions that must be met and with curiosity and encouragement to get free spins, gamblers try to do it but fail to reach the specified conditions and promotions like This also exists in any casino, especially new casinos.

Yes, there may still be some gamblers who have succeeded in achieving these requirements, but only a small number are lucky because currently casinos are very strict and have very difficult conditions and remember, casinos don't want to lose.
That's because the promotions they see are very attractive so they are tempted to try to get the promotion so they will deposit more money because of the promotions they see. Some promotions have wagering requirements so they have to fulfill them. After they get the free spins, they then play it and hope to get a lot of money but it will depend on luck so they can just wait for the results to come out.

Some gamblers have achieved these requirements and earned a lot of money as a result. However, many gamblers fail to meet that requirement because they lose and spend a few dollars. So they should understand whether what they are doing is worth it or just a waste of money so they don't have to try to get those free spins.

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September 21, 2023, 06:02:45 PM
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However, unfortunately there are still many gamblers who are too interested in this kind of promotion even though it is very clear that it is just a promotion to attract the attention of other gamblers to try the casino.
I won't say that the promise is like a trap, but indeed promotions always exaggerate, but when you want to get the promotion you have to be able to meet the conditions that must be met and with curiosity and encouragement to get free spins, gamblers try to do it but fail to reach the specified conditions and promotions like This also exists in any casino, especially new casinos.

Yes, there may still be some gamblers who have succeeded in achieving these requirements, but only a small number are lucky because currently casinos are very strict and have very difficult conditions and remember, casinos don't want to lose.
That's because the promotions they see are very attractive so they are tempted to try to get the promotion so they will deposit more money because of the promotions they see. Some promotions have wagering requirements so they have to fulfill them. After they get the free spins, they then play it and hope to get a lot of money but it will depend on luck so they can just wait for the results to come out.

Some gamblers have achieved these requirements and earned a lot of money as a result. However, many gamblers fail to meet that requirement because they lose and spend a few dollars. So they should understand whether what they are doing is worth it or just a waste of money so they don't have to try to get those free spins.
Not some but all promotions and bonuses come with a certain wagering requirement, it's usually pretty high for the reason that gamblers shouldn't be able to complete it with just the amount that they've deposited because if they complete the wagering requirement successfully with the bonus and the deposited amount, they will be able to stay in profit and make a withdrawal successfully, but if they lose and fail to do that, the casino won't lose anything.

The wagering requirements are usually very high that a user can barely be able to complete it. Imagine making a deposit of $200 to get a $400 bonus and having to complete a 20x or more wagering requirement which means you will have to wager $12k to be able to make a withdrawal which is insane and you will lose everything before that.

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September 21, 2023, 07:07:22 PM
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Are free slots even real?

There are big differences between free spins and demo accounts. A demo account is a type of trial membership where you can gamble with a virtual balance and test the service but free spins are generally a free gift added to your account to experience a single game and as an incentive.

Free spins allow you to gain experience with realistic results especially recently because making very serious profits with free spins has become a marketing strategy that is no longer very effective. For this reason, many casino services today provide free spins to experience just like a real game is being played.

Another difference of free spins compared to demo accounts is that they allow you to gamble with reasonable amounts. Of course, there is an upper limit in demo accounts but in such accounts, games that didn't reflect reality were generally played due to very high balances and this didn't have a serious financial advantage for the casinos. In addition with free spins, it is aimed for users to experience the game for a limited time and then play the real game by depositing money into their accounts.
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September 22, 2023, 06:32:29 AM
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And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
Due to the fact we need to reach some wagering amounts to claim free spins, I'm not into them, because I know it's a worthless risk to be taken. The reward just doesn't worth the risk of losing your money reaching the wagering requirements.

If it is free spins promotion where there is a requirement to make deposit first or later to wager the winning from the free spins, yes it does not worth the risk but if it is pure free spins without deposit requirement, it has no risk at all so it worth to take at least players can try their luck and try some other games on the site. That's the purpose of free spins bonus without deposit, giving players the chance to test the casino without any risk while there is also a chance to make money (if lucky) at the same time.

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September 22, 2023, 06:37:13 AM
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And we know that you have to deposit for wagering because that bonus really become yours, is free spin just another demo like free bonus? That's what I want to know, what is your own experiences like with free spins.
Due to the fact we need to reach some wagering amounts to claim free spins, I'm not into them, because I know it's a worthless risk to be taken. The reward just doesn't worth the risk of losing your money reaching the wagering requirements.

If it is free spins promotion where there is a requirement to make deposit first or later to wager the winning from the free spins, yes it does not worth the risk but if it is pure free spins without deposit requirement, it has no risk at all so it worth to take at least players can try their luck and try some other games on the site. That's the purpose of free spins bonus without deposit, giving players the chance to test the casino without any risk while there is also a chance to make money (if lucky) at the same time.

The catch with the 2nd method is that they will give you free spins without any deposit requirement. You lose the free spins, no one loses the money, not you nor the gambling casino.

In case you win, then the gambling sites will require you to deposit first before withdrawal. The withdrawals will have wagering requirements for your initial deposits. Once you try to wager your deposit, you lose all the deposit and the winning amount from free spins becomes unimportant as you already have lost your deposited money.

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September 22, 2023, 06:42:24 AM
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Another reason is to test out their games and also familiarize yourself with the game but even if you got lucky most casinos now require you to make a deposit and wager a required amount before you can withdraw your winnings.
 
Those who earn free spins are some sort of reward to the existing gambler on the casino so that they can try their luck and it is different from those newly signed up gamblers in that it is the marketing strategy of the casino to attract more gamblers to sign up.
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September 22, 2023, 08:11:51 AM
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Not some but all promotions and bonuses come with a certain wagering requirement, it's usually pretty high for the reason that gamblers shouldn't be able to complete it with just the amount that they've deposited because if they complete the wagering requirement successfully with the bonus and the deposited amount, they will be able to stay in profit and make a withdrawal successfully, but if they lose and fail to do that, the casino won't lose anything.

The wagering requirements are usually very high that a user can barely be able to complete it. Imagine making a deposit of $200 to get a $400 bonus and having to complete a 20x or more wagering requirement which means you will have to wager $12k to be able to make a withdrawal which is insane and you will lose everything before that.
Gamblers should understand that if some promotions and bonuses have certain wagering requirements that are too high, they should not try to take them because it could get them into trouble. They should look for promotions and other bonuses that do not have other requirements to make it easier to get. After all, playing normally and not chasing promotions and bonuses is also fine for them and it will be better for them so they won't have any problems.

High betting requirements only cause us to deposit other amounts of money and can experience losing a lot of money, which many people still don't realize, so their desires trap them. We have to be more careful if we want to take promotions and bonuses from casinos and have to study the terms carefully so that we don't misunderstand them.

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September 22, 2023, 08:42:29 AM
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Another reason is to test out their games and also familiarize yourself with the game but even if you got lucky most casinos now require you to make a deposit and wager a required amount before you can withdraw your winnings.
 
Those who earn free spins are some sort of reward to the existing gambler on the casino so that they can try their luck and it is different from those newly signed up gamblers in that it is the marketing strategy of the casino to attract more gamblers to sign up.
Actually there are types of free spins like faucets and sometimes also spins in slot games, but it's true that I've also gotten them from email promotions because to attract their users who haven't been active for long, I happened to get an email of free spins in slot games and I claimed that get 50 free spins and the win is not an absolute win.

I have to make a deposit to claim the winnings and also continue playing, actually I don't really like slot games but because there is a promotion there's no harm in trying because slot games are easy and just wait for luck without needing any strategy, so play by getting a win. but after that I had to make a deposit I didn't do it because it was a new site being promoted on this forum so it was a bit prone to making a deposit of some money which I thought was not very reasonable for me. as you said that's a promotion to test the game, so just skip it  Cheesy

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September 22, 2023, 02:05:13 PM
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OP, "a demo in disguise"? I believe not. You said you and your friend won $15.00 from free spins. That's actually not very bad! You can't actually expect to win hundreds or thousands from free spins unless they're for slot-machines with progressive jackpots, no?

I won multiple times more than a 100$ on free spin from Livecasino free spin bonus on our signature campaign. I remember winning same amount on Winz.io free spin and Bitcasino. 100$ and above is possible to win free spin depending on the max multiplier and the bet amount of the free spin.

There’s a wagering requirements on free spin rewards so I doubt that casino will provide capped on winning possibilities since most of the free spin offer by other casino requires deposit for wagering since the free spin reward is lock. Just saying that free spin is not different on normal in terms of max profit potential.

I'm sure it's possible, if you're lucky. I won $25.00 from "Diggy's Hole" before when BlackJack.fun had their promos and daily/weekly voting tournaments, and I consider that a good win from mere free spins. But what I was telling OP was we won't win a very large jackpot unless the slot-machine had a progressive jackpot that adds more to the vault as more and more money goes into it.

Weren't you a regular BlackJack.fun player before? I believe you're the one who's good at BlackJack. Cool

Do you mean digdigdigger right?  Cheesy



Hahaha YES! We always joke in the community chat to bring lotion everytime they go "into Diggy's hole" because it was like we were taking advantage of the slot machine from all of out free spins.

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Yeah, I understand what you are trying point out here. I just share some of my experience about winning big using a mere free spin. I really missed the previous version of Blackjack.fun which they have a weekly reward for VIP user that wager above 1BTC and the free spin that has no wagering requirements. I remember winning 2mbtc on it just with my 25 free spin.


Yeah, I miss the original version of BlackJack.fun, it incentivized the players which also might have helped in starting a good community for the casino. Everyone was familiar with everyone else in the chat, and we had our own bets on who would win the weekly wagering tournaments. Cool

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I’m not good on Blackjack, I’m just regularly playing that’s why I can manage my gameplay properly using the standard strategy.
 

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September 22, 2023, 02:15:54 PM
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Another reason is to test out their games and also familiarize yourself with the game but even if you got lucky most casinos now require you to make a deposit and wager a required amount before you can withdraw your winnings.
 
Those who earn free spins are some sort of reward to the existing gambler on the casino so that they can try their luck and it is different from those newly signed up gamblers in that it is the marketing strategy of the casino to attract more gamblers to sign up.
Actually there are types of free spins like faucets and sometimes also spins in slot games, but it's true that I've also gotten them from email promotions because to attract their users who haven't been active for long, I happened to get an email of free spins in slot games and I claimed that get 50 free spins and the win is not an absolute win.

I have to make a deposit to claim the winnings and also continue playing, actually I don't really like slot games but because there is a promotion there's no harm in trying because slot games are easy and just wait for luck without needing any strategy, so play by getting a win. but after that I had to make a deposit I didn't do it because it was a new site being promoted on this forum so it was a bit prone to making a deposit of some money which I thought was not very reasonable for me. as you said that's a promotion to test the game, so just skip it  Cheesy

Every casino has their own terms related to winning from the free spins, in the past, free spins was 100% free without deposit required to claim the winning.
The only requirement was to complete the wagering requirement only, once players complete the wagering requirement, they are able to withdraw it.
These days, most free spins is not 100% free as what you said, most casinos will ask players to deposit in order to wager for the wagering requirement in order to unlock the winning from the free spins.
This is why it is always better to check the whole terms of the free spins bonus before decide to take it so it wont disappoint us.

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September 22, 2023, 09:04:53 PM
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A casino will not intentionally mislead the public with free spins and demo spins. They know that it could cost them their reputation in the currently socially eager to report, tech savvy customers that patronize them. In free spins  there is something to win. Demo  just  gives you an idea of the game.

To the OP, sorry about your bad experiences. I believe you have read the comments from others here. You should look for the casinos that offer free spins and try again to come to a final conclusion.

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September 22, 2023, 09:59:29 PM
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I don't think such free spins are rigged. But upon withdrawal of your winnings, they may impose conditions.
Such as you need to deposit or wager certain amount before you can get your winnings.
They won't just give your free spins like totally free, usually there are conditions need to be met.
Because if someone expose them that those free spins are not provably fair, I think, they will just ruin their promotions for nothing.
Yes I agree with you, I would never play again slots from a provider who rigs its free spins, because if he is able to rig his free spins, it means he's also able to rig real ones, and you can't spend money on a game you don't trust. Most of time, they require some conditions to get the winnings on your account and being able to withdraw them, some casinos like Fortunejack for example are always requiring many conditions when they offer bonuses.

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September 22, 2023, 10:13:37 PM
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I don't think it is "demo" per se. If we're going for the technicalities, Free Spins aren't considered as demos cause for it to be a demo first and foremost, it has to be free, no charge, and you can cancel the service at any time. Free Spins come when you buy spins, and are literally just BOGO bundles. So at most it's considered as BOGO or a freebie that you claim from buying the stuff that comes with it. And I don't think these free spins are in any way rigged at all unlike Demos that are manipulated to put up better odds to entice people into putting their money into. It's not how that works for most free spins as they are under the same odds and chances as would any other regular spin.

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September 22, 2023, 10:28:10 PM
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Well, if OP's publication is about advertising a casino, then I don't see it as correct, if I see it as correct that they want to implement a way to generate awareness in young people, adolescents so that they can control themselves with the game, I don't see the initiative as bad, But if it is for that reason, then when we see, it is because by showing everything that the game can affect a person, they are things that children, adolescents, young people and even adults must see, know, the tragedies of the game when the person is not responsible enough, because it is not the fault of the casino, but rather it is the fault of the people who do not know how to control themselves, this includes emcoins, impulses, and everything that can be related to what is referred to this, in this order of ideas can conclude that by showing the different stages of education that the person can receive in a parade, it is high quality information, which if it prevents someone from being addicted, then we would be fulfilling the true reason for this, when it is seen that something is educational and as I have said before, it seems to me that it is something great, something that I support, the more information the person has about some activity I will always see it as something influential and that should be known, but if it is something like a Publicity strategy for a caisno, I don't think so, because they are already starting with a deception, and it is not correct.

Everything related to the Casio, I know they have the right to advertise it however they want, but through deception it is not good to make it known, I know that now in this area there is a lot of competition, but if they want to attract attention by doing something that educates, then You can go in another direction where your objective, in addition to presenting a game , is first of all to Avoid action and to make it clear that the audience must first be educated before making a decision like playing a game, so on that side it is not all , Because it reminds me of Bitcasino.io that in their thread they always put references to great articles so that players can educate themselves and know much more.

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September 22, 2023, 11:58:51 PM
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Yes I agree with you, I would never play again slots from a provider who rigs its free spins, because if he is able to rig his free spins, it means he's also able to rig real ones, and you can't spend money on a game you don't trust. Most of time, they require some conditions to get the winnings on your account and being able to withdraw them, some casinos like Fortunejack for example are always requiring many conditions when they offer bonuses.

Hmm, I doubt game providers will rig those free spins. It's just that most users are not just lucky and they blamed those free spins as rigged lol.

And also obviously, free spin bonuses for new users should always expected to be associated with conditions before able to be withdrawn. There's no way winnings from free spins don't have a condition. It's good for me that there are free spins associated with new accounts as part of a welcome gift. Of course, don't take it literally as free to the point that users won't have to do anything before winnings can be claimed.

Just enjoy it and at most casinos, there's an option not to received those bonuses and just directly straight into normal deposit.

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September 23, 2023, 09:40:36 AM
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free spins are most often part of a marketing campaign to attract new players and in 99% of cases you need to make a deposit in order to withdraw your bonus. I have never been lucky enough to win a large amount from free spins, most often it was 10-15 dollars and no more. I think the casino will not pay big bonuses for beginners.
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September 23, 2023, 09:47:29 AM
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IMO, free spins are a business strategy to attract people to play on their slot platform. For gambling sites with a strong reputation, this might not generate much revenue. However, for gambling sites without a substantial reputation, they typically offer sizable rewards to entice users to make deposits.

Unfortunately, people here have better discernment, so choosing a casino platform isn't solely based on promotions; it also revolves around reputation and privacy. Even if a casino can offer something grand, if its website doesn't have a good reputation, users are likely to be hesitant to play there.
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September 23, 2023, 11:06:59 AM
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Another reason is to test out their games and also familiarize yourself with the game but even if you got lucky most casinos now require you to make a deposit and wager a required amount before you can withdraw your winnings.
 
Those who earn free spins are some sort of reward to the existing gambler on the casino so that they can try their luck and it is different from those newly signed up gamblers in that it is the marketing strategy of the casino to attract more gamblers to sign up.
Actually there are types of free spins like faucets and sometimes also spins in slot games, but it's true that I've also gotten them from email promotions because to attract their users who haven't been active for long, I happened to get an email of free spins in slot games and I claimed that get 50 free spins and the win is not an absolute win.

I have to make a deposit to claim the winnings and also continue playing, actually I don't really like slot games but because there is a promotion there's no harm in trying because slot games are easy and just wait for luck without needing any strategy, so play by getting a win. but after that I had to make a deposit I didn't do it because it was a new site being promoted on this forum so it was a bit prone to making a deposit of some money which I thought was not very reasonable for me. as you said that's a promotion to test the game, so just skip it  Cheesy

Every casino has their own terms related to winning from the free spins, in the past, free spins was 100% free without deposit required to claim the winning.
The only requirement was to complete the wagering requirement only, once players complete the wagering requirement, they are able to withdraw it.
These days, most free spins is not 100% free as what you said, most casinos will ask players to deposit in order to wager for the wagering requirement in order to unlock the winning from the free spins.
This is why it is always better to check the whole terms of the free spins bonus before decide to take it so it wont disappoint us.
Free spins are just free spins and there's nothing you can do with that but to play and make bets and any amount that you would win will really be subjected to wagering requirement. They cant really just give out
out those free spins for free and having no requirement before you could really be able to make out some withdrawal on which it would really be just that normal and there's no way that you could really be able to get out easily.  Cheesy. Demo is different because we know its just free money or credit into your account and there's no chance or way for you to make money with that unless if there would really be some competition which do make use of demo balance then it would be nice but its unlikely because casinos cant really just give out that kind of opportunity which they do know that people or gamblers would really be able to easily make money
with that. Free spins arent really that a disguise and i dont really see any correlation in both things which we do know that it isnt something that will really be just that the same.

IMO, free spins are a business strategy to attract people to play on their slot platform. For gambling sites with a strong reputation, this might not generate much revenue. However, for gambling sites without a substantial reputation, they typically offer sizable rewards to entice users to make deposits.

For new casinos then they would really be that needing to be aggressive on increasing those numbers to hook up people to stay into their platform and we do know that it would really be just
that normal that they would really be having those kind of offering. Just take note or be careful that if things turns out to be too good to be true then it wont really be that bad
to make some indepth research.

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September 23, 2023, 12:16:21 PM
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free spins are most often part of a marketing campaign to attract new players and in 99% of cases you need to make a deposit in order to withdraw your bonus. I have never been lucky enough to win a large amount from free spins, most often it was 10-15 dollars and no more. I think the casino will not pay big bonuses for beginners.
Yes, that's true, so that's what makes many gamblers want it. Newbie gamblers are interested in getting free spins, and they deposit some money to get those free spins. But to get big wins, gamblers need luck so that it can help them to win big. Some gamblers can get big wins, and we also often see them on this forum because they share their winnings with us, making us jealous and want to get it someday. But free spins are different from a demo because we often use real money to get that free spins. And if you do not want to lose much money, you must control yourself.
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