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Recently I've seen alot of threads where people just jump into writing an incredible episode without putting their readers into consideration.
I'm not a fan of reading very long articles and most times I think some posts ought to be simplified and summarized to get ease of attention and from my observation,  it seems most users confuse quantity with quality and think, writing very long post simply means the post has quality  which is wrong.

I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely  very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from  them.

Well that's true mate, am also with you on this thought because most newbie and believe not only newbie feel that's post quality actually depends on how lengthy the information is but true be said you can actually be writing lengthy post and actually saying a whole lot of gibberish while some times it's the opposite like JJG post for example it's very lengthy but believe me every information he provides in his post are actually worth reading. And I think he is one of the few that are unique in terms of their posting styles.

We already have lots of reactionary threads being created around the forum. It will be a lot better to reply in the threads that prioritize quantity and suggest to the Op to create a more concise thread the next time than to create a new thread to react to it.

- Jay -

I'm glad I'm not the only one on this opinion and boat and the name you mentioned, JJG really got my attention and I don't mind if you can get me a link to the users profile as I would really love to see such persons as I hope to learn some things from such a user 😔.
Well I think the idea of posting very long post are mostly done by newbies and I wouldn't have to blame them because I also understand the quest of wanting to grow and be relevant  in the forum but I do believe that with time, they'll automatically realize that it is always quality over quantity.

You're right and I didn't  noticed if there were specific  threads talking about this same quality  precisely bjt if they're, then I will be glad if you can list them so I can atleast  go through them.
Thanks mate.

Some thread creators only try to meet their weekly posting quota, but because there is no prohibition against that when you find a topic that has the potential to generate spam or is of low quality, you can report it to the moderator, the moderator will definitely follow up on your report. I only make posts on topics that I like, I also don't like making long-winded replies or using AI tools to make posts, my average reply is only 500 words, sometime when you see posts that are too high quality, you have to be suspicious, what is that based on the member's thoughts or derived from AI tools.

I have notice a lot of threads like that, most of them are worth it base on the kind of information that they carry why most of them don’t which I just see them as bunch of wasted space, most people don’t know how to make their thread short and informative, they believe the longer the thread the more informative that it could be which is actually not what they think.

Their are threads which I come across sometimes by just reading through few line of it I will understand what the thread is really about, and when I read those whom I find hard and not interested to finish, I draw my conclusions regarding that thread from the subject, which most times might appear to be misleading.

There are members which both in their comment and in their thread they make things very short and easy for other to read and others what they are pointing at and not confuse us the readers with grammar and words which has nothing to do with the thread.

A quality post is not by the a countless characters we write but some people assume that a quality post is base on a post that is meaningful and someone will learn from your response, and a quality post gives you a lecture and mostly when the conversation is involve technical questions and bitcoin development, from the four or three reply even a two lines reply can give you the answers of what you wanted, sometimes some of the long post doesn't rhythm in sentences and some of their point always be pointless

I think you are talking about replies and I believe it should be short, summarized, and on topic but I believe the first topic post or the beginning post should be well elaborated since it is the source of discussion.  It can be short or long as long as it supplies the most important factors of discussion.  What should need to be omitted is all the words used as spices which in fact have no relation to the topic in order to make the post long and look like a quality post that when analyzed is full of nonsense.

You have a point in what you’re saying but I still feel there are some post that contain long article and still worth the message they’re trying to pass across. How enormous a post is doesn’t matter if what you’re trying to pass is explained in detail for the reader to understand but if it can still be summarized, it’ll be much easier for the reader to go through.

That's very true @Obari. Alot if people have to understand that quantity, doesn't define quality. From what we can see these days most new members tends to post longer threads thinking that the longer it goes, the more merit attractive it would be. When creating a topic, you have to be straight forward and factual. This will attract readers to you post. Alot of users here don't have time to spend reading 1 post. I myself often try to get the important parts of a lengthy post and try to summarize it for myself so I can gasp what the users is trying to pass. If I find it boring and lengthy, I move on to the next post.

Are you kidding me? Come on... it's about merit and character for a signature campaign. Nobody thinks like that, if they're on the campaign trail

The main question here is; were you able to get the message that they were trying to pass? If yes then I don’t see any issue here (not entirely tho).

You should remember that not everyone can be concise in their writing and just go straight to the point, there are some that feels the need to explain somethings to the readers and it eventually becomes a hurdle for them at the end, so whenever you come across such write-up after giving them the solution to the problem they are having ( if they are asking questions) remind them that those long threads discourages people to read their threads and that they should shorten it. Trust me, 80% of them won’t see this your thread before it gets buried by other threads so try to remind them when you’re telling any of their thread, that would be more effective.

Every person has different thoughts. Maybe he wrote like that because he thought to create the narration first before getting to the main point. I don't mind with type like this as long as he doesn't spam. So far, I find it quite attractive to get responses and comments from a member here which I think is still normal and not so many people reject it.

It's always the short, concise, and well-formatted posts that I like and they are the ones that get the most merit too. If you want to write a large post to explain a certain subject, and you are not using formatting, you are doing it wrong. No offense to the users who like it vanilla and doesn't prefer using bold or italics in their posts however it just gives a better clarity to what as an OP, you want the user to focus on. Adding headings is also option but adds to the overall look.

Writing a large and long post does not make that post is quality but it is a trend from merit fishers. They try to hide their fishing works with long posts and try to confuse campaign managers with their long posts.

If I manage a campaign with 20 participants for each, have 5 campaigns, reading all of those posts if they are all long, is painful. So I will likely accept long posts as quality posts and those post fishers will get payments with no issue from post counting.

Formatting can help to organize a post better but can not increase its quality too much. Quality first has to come from idea in the post, then format can help to polish it more and make your posts more friendly, readable for readers.

With just the sight of an elaborated thread the reader losses the enthusiasm to uncover the message of the thread on the grounds that it's a work load to have to read such a lengthy thread that could have been summarizes in a concise and precise format. And for any lengthy thread to attract an interest in a reader apart from how vital the message of the thread is, the formatting, the writing style plays a big role in the captivation of the reader to reading to the end of the thread. Otherwise most readers will just skim or scan most elaborated thread if they appear keen to get to the bottom of the message.

I'm not really sure if it's for merit and character for a signature campaign. AFAIK most of campaigns only ask minimum of 150 characters and few of them ask minimum of 200 characters, 200 characters is really short. Take an example your post, it contain 145 characters which mean if you write two or three more characters, it's already exceed than 150 characters. Actually they only need to create one liner post to get paid.

As for merit, most of people really read the value of the post than the length.

Op you raise a good topic here and I fully agree with what you said in your post. Most users believe that quality means writing a long post but it is totally worthless and also a wastage of time. Long post writes only when you have a good topic and a large number of information and numerics so in that term you should arrange them in an order. If you write a long post then it's not a quality post but rather it's a quantity post which does not need in this forum. writs a short post be concise, to the point which makes it a quality post

To be honest, I never count written characters. So 150 characters is quite short, maybe about two lines? I think 150 characters is more than 4 lines, thanks for letting me know

Yes, ideally the discussion only conveys the main idea without needing to extend the writing. It's easier to read and people will absorb the meaning more quickly. However, there are several things that sometimes need to be explained to strengthen arguments, such as examples, definitions, terms, and so on.

So the length and shortness of a comment/post depends on the argument being built, we definitely know if the post is extended or not

Usually the long posts are for instructional materials and guides. For those stories that are quite long, they can summarize it and avoid those details that are not needed anymore.

Well, if they want to include that and they're just happy writing that story of theirs, can't stop them.

There are legitimate stories that are written in a short format and gets merited because of how they're concise and short with not just the story but also the actuality and reality of it.

While this has overly been the case, the idea often is that, you’ve got to ensure you put a great deal of time in your writing and quantity happens to speak in that tune. Sadly still, quantity ain’t quality and you could as well be padding up garbage if you go about looking out for quantity to mean quality as a user. You can easily note quantity where you find a lot of repetition, that ought to be avoided.

One means by which one can assert quality in a lengthy post is by breaking down your topic to lay emphases on key points and not over deliberate on them. It makes reading boring once discovered.

You also have to look out for the targeted users while writing. Like OP has stated, most users don’t like to read read a very lengthy post as you could almost forget the top even before you hit the bottom, you try to measure the understanding level of your target audience, what you think they could comprehend and level it at that.

Else, you find your posts being kept on the sidelines while other threads are given priority.

In as much as I want to agree with what you have said, I just want to add this, the forum is made up of  different individuals with different sense of reasoning, understanding, expression and writing knowledge. The way you can express yourself may not be the way some One else expresses himself likewise in terms of summarizing some stores in a comprehensive manner so I think people should be allowed to write as long as they can hense their stories doesn't go off point to what they are writing. You can decide to respond to the story by quoting the particular paragraph you wish to respond to no matter how long the storylines are but to be honest making stories to be simple and comprehend will help both the reader and the writer to arrive at a conclusion easily.

But not everyone can write briefly, concisely and directly to the point. Sometimes some people also like to present an introduction to the topic they are writing about.
In fact, sometimes I also feel a little annoyed when I read an article or thread that is too long, which in my opinion contains too much small talk, so that sometimes I can't catch the important points of the thread and sometimes it also makes us lazy readers to read threads that are too long.
But actually I don't think it's a problem if sometimes someone makes an introduction to the discussion in the thread they created, but at least I think they should also organize their writing format to make it more interesting and easy for other people to read and understand. I mean maybe they could give breaks per discussion and not write all the discussions into one long paragraph.
Honestly, I actually prefer threads that have a pause or enter per discussion because I as a reader can understand the thread per sub-discussion rather than threads that are made into one very long paragraph because that sometimes makes the reader tired too read.

I think he is forgetting that the content of a post is what determine the length. You cannot be explaining a procedure and expect it to just be few lines... it has to start with an introduction, the main details and any advise or suggestion you can add including limitations. All these cannot just fit into few lines.

For sure, there are people that beat about the bush tying to explain simple things; this can be boring but not all long posts are really boring. Furthermore, I understand that there are people that do not just like post that are lengthy irrespective of the information being conveyed.... but then, we are unique and so are our preferences.

Absolutely correct mate, most times people tend to explain themselves while writing so as to let their readers have a clean clear understanding of the point they are trying to make and also the information they are passing across.
Sometimes the reason for the lengthy post might be as a result of the writer giving in details his or her experience for the readers to capture the real idea they are trying to pass across. Possibly the message needs a proper breakdown of information accordingly to be able to satisfy the readers understanding.

I know such an expression as “brevity is the sister of talent,” and this says everything that needs to be conveyed to someone who wants to express their thoughts. Not everyone is given such a talent for writing, and people, thinking that they can cover a topic extensively, sometimes write very boringly, and already at the beginning of the post, you can understand why and why it was created. Moreover, you can guess what the author wanted to say without reading the text to the end. Therefore, I also agree that there is no need to stretch out what can be said in a nutshell. Among us, I know a user who can always answer briefly and to the point in a few phrases; this is @mk4, and even the nickname of this user is short :).

I believe that the quality of someone's posts depends on the knowledge and skills of that member. If someone has deep knowledge about an issue then that user will try to describe things in detail. I know that sometimes a simple post with a few lines could solve someone's issue but in other situations the issue may require some extra details and that's why the user will have to put effort to write a lengthy post.

Some of the well-known members of the forum tend to write longer posts because they share detail explanation of the issues that other users face. Their solutions have helped many users and that's something we can consider as a quality post. Those members could post two to three line posts and increase their number of posts but still they give a lot of time to forum and write each of their posts in detail.

I would also say that when a post is helpful and it solves someone's issue then that's a quality post and even if that post is just three lines of simple text as a summarized explanation or a detailed answer to someone's question. You should also keep in mind that if someone's posts are good then other members of the forum will support such posts with merits.

You're right, I've just based what I've observed from the long posts and they really do are. But as you've said, we're all different and we've got different ways of expressing ourselves and how we tell a story or some thoughts that we've got in our minds.

And some are going to the point that they're long enough but still good enough to read. No one stops from writing long posts as long as the thought is there and the discussion is good and gets the attention of other people that shares the same interest as the poster.

It's just that we truly have our preference and that's what makes it even a better discussion because we're seeing the point of everyone in variation and from there, we read someone's uniqueness.

That's right, quality is more important than quantity. There is no benefit at all if you prioritize quantity without considering quality. This thinking needs to be changed so that readers don't get bored easily with long writing that doesn't get straight to the point. As long as the post contains useful content (straight to the point) that can educate other members, it doesn't matter even if it is written in just a few lines, the post is considered quality.
​Newbies must realize this, quality posts do not have to be written at length, providing information for other members is also considered quality.

In as much as we are debating over quality and quantity of post here, there are some quality lengthy posts you could read and know that this person writes good and is communicating through their post and there are some that writes just a short sentence and are very well communicating as well however be the case, the readers are the ones left to judge if truly what they are reading is of good benefit to them.

I believe newbies tend to assume that quality posts mean them writing a lengthy post for all to see and know that they are trying and these posts sometimes looks boring to forum members and it leads to reactions from all quarters of the platform which gets newbies scared and feels they being attacked.

I read a lot of things daily, and unless I notice from the topic or the introduction that it is a discussion that has a good reason to be long, I scan through and look for the main points from each topic started. It saves me a lot of time and stress.

A long topic is not always a quality topic. I have read lots of long pointless before, and then very reasonable short topics with a point. The target of writing should be for effective communication and that happens when you have been understood. If your long writing does not make understanding easy, you have wasted the time of your readers.

Exactly, once the subject of discussion is not well expanciated I think there will always be an error for forum members to have good discussion and interaction about the topic. If the storyline can't fit in a single line I think the op of the particular thread should either increase the lines or better still go straight to the key points if readers won't have the time to read through it.

Not forgetting that everyone who's a member of the forum is here to also get some knowledge or render services I think if an information is passed which is beneficial anyone who's interested to know about it will always make out time to read to know more.

Well, it is common knowledge that the simpler you present your topic, or comment; the more engagement it will get because it will be easily accessible and assimilated easily as well. The reason why there are unnecessary threads is because lots of individuals in the forum want to impress readers.

If you try to impress; your post lacks constructiveness and won't pass the intended messages or lessons. Hope everyone takes note and keep it simple.

It's not the Quality VS Quality but make minimum 150/200 words to be paid. Some signature campaigns have a minimum number of words, so you find some people trying to add more words.

I personally see that the reason for writing long posts is:

 - Get more merits: A longer post may means more people will stop to read it and good chance to get merits.
 - Guarantee that you get paid: If signature campaigns do not set a minimum, you will notice replies with 3 words.
 - Make the account look better: Many times posts go unread but accounts with longer posts appear less spammy.
 - Opening the door to more spamming: If replies is clear and direct, you will not find anyone commenting on your post, but with a longer post, you will find that it is easy to spam.

So it's all about signature campaigns, merit, and more profits than it is about sharing ideas.

Well, it has a lot to do with the writer's skill. Most people are unique in capturing their audience attention just two lines into their messages, hence keeping the audience attentive for the rest of the message.
These set of writer's makes the reader see through the lens of the writer's exactly thought, and most times they pass their messages with not too much of write ups, but just short and simple but well detailed format.

While some other writers believe, they have to narrate a whole story with lots of explanation and long text before they call arguably pass their messages to the targeted audience.
So it all depends on the writers skills when trying to convey a message.
Though most times, it depends on the subject the writer is to talk about, some topics need, details and long explanation before you can arrive at a conclusion.
But in all,  a writer needs to be reading books 📚  in a bid to learn how to present his/her message in simple manner that is not too humongous for people to comprehend.

People just what to meet up to standard when they haven't given themselves time to get better understanding that will be beneficial to other members. People don't understand what it takes  to drop meaningful write up but they just want to be among without not  developing themselves to pen down meaningful write up that is worth to be discussed. Some people just drop to be noticed not trying to know if it is meaningful or not. People who choose quantity over quality don't even try their best to improve but they feel it is the best that they are giving out.

You are right that there are just some straight-to-point posts that also really did pass good information, but every member is not the same, and sometimes it depends on what that user is trying to explain in detail, so he or she would need a few more points in different paragraphs just to make sure that even the least person can be able to comprehend their topic.

Everyone has their own reading capability; some of the people who write lengthy words may just be trying to simplify their topic for a wider understanding, although some threads too could be lengthy and still be meaningless. In a few of these threads that I have come across, the OP only copied all the information from an article, but at the bottom of the thread was a link to the article.

It's not really wrong to write lengthy content, but some annoying parts are when all the words are congested and there is not a single space to quickly catch up with the line you are reading. Those are the kinds of lengthy threads i avoid, but for some threads that are lengthy and yet every point will be analyzed bit by bit, I don't find it difficult to read from top to bottom.

It's not about how long the article is because it's all about how the message is conveyed like getting straight to the point. Well, there are some people who make the article going in circles before getting to the point. There's also some who did it because they are required to do so since some signature campaigns have rules like # of characters for it to be eligible because if not then the post won't be counted or not eligible to be counted.

To me, when they say quality posts, I don't think that a two (2) line or three (3) line comment or thread is quality enough to be called a quality post. Although everybody's writing skills are not the same, some will like to breakdown every word or sentence for others to understand what they are saying and it is good that way. Imagine you reading a post and you don't understand what the person is saying.
It is very painful to read a whole post and in the end it was rubbish. I remember when I was a newbie and I made a post, then someone asked me if that was the whole post. Since then, I decided to create my post with more lines so no body would ask me such a question again.

I agree with you. However, whether a piece of writing is judged as quality or not depends on its content. If it is long but meaningful then that is also good. However, if the writing is related to technical matters, it might be better to just answer as necessary so as not to confuse things. However, when discussing opinions, it is necessary to explain and give examples so that the argument seems longer

You have noted a very good point and I have also often seen posts that are unnecessarily long for no reason. I avoid such posts' You are absolutely right, that the post should be described in simple and concise words. Most of the people think that the longer the post, the better the post will be considered. Therefore, they try to make the posts longer with unnecessary events.

 However, in my opinion, the quality of any post on this forum is a purposeful post.a post that awakens the creativity of others while increasing their knowledge and experience .So that the next one can understand your post well and give you a good reply.You are right that straight to the point posts are best,Some of the posts I see are written in such a strange way that the other person is not able to understand them easily.However, we should also consider the readers while writing our posts.

That's what I meant. It's not about how long or short but what about what you are going to express. I also mentioned about if someone is discussing something then it's better if it's direct to the point instead of going around that will confuse someone. Most will just the quality about your posts or article for example is if it's not off-topic or a little bit off-topic or on topic because if it's on to the point then many will consider it high quality regardless of the content.

Normally, I love articles that go straight to the point, I don't really like reading long articles but if it involves an article that contains or conveys valuable information, quality, and makes sense, I'm patient at reading it. The purpose of every article is to convey the information to the readers and anything aside that you have missed it, For me, whether you are a long writer or a short writer, try to make sense of it and pass the info as simple as that.

I get your points mates but I wouldn't have to point fingers at signature campaign requirements when making extremely unnecessarily long post because most campaigns always ask for 150 character and some ask for at most 200 characters and if you're to judge that, I think about 3 to 4 line post would give you upto 150 to 200 character writings without necessarily writing a full episode.
There are post that actually don't require stories because people want to learn and there are post that would require you to write in details and my point is that, we should wirte in details when needed and be brief when due.

Yeah, I kinda relate as well in that, OP. I just want people to get into straight fucking point instead of just posting a wall of text that are obviously either copied from responses by ChatGPT or just plagiarized from a random article that they wanted to get clicks for their contents from.

It's kinda annoying and this is why I do not give merits to those kinds of posts. Usually those users are either merit-fishing or just padding their posts and squeezing the crap out of the content just to get more than the character limit that their SC requires.

Not pointing any fingers because that's the truth where signature campaigns requires certain number of characters for it to be counted and some doesn't have. Well, some posts does indeeed written in details but some people will do it in summarized version but still in good quality or you can say, it is like the same as the detailed version when as you can see it is summarized. Some people doesn't want to read because it's too long or only read some lines or maybe TL;DR in short.

That should be the case, but the problem with other replies is that it is full of unneeded words just to make the reply look long.  Like citing an example that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.  I also agree that quality replies does not need to be long, it should be a direct answer that is need for the question may it be technical or opinion based unless asked for an example.  This way the reader do not need to read a long wall of text just to get the essence or the idea of the reply.

Wether the writting is long or short is not actually the issue because some times a well detailed information can be contained in a long write just like the unique writer here JJG while sometimes it's just the way some forum members feel they can russle up some merits of actually the text is long but some of these writters don't actually know what they are writing and feel it up with lots of gibberish which confuses the reader.

I have created a thread before concerning a quality post.  what we think is a quality post   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5360301.msg57948786#msg57948786) so some of what we think is a quality post is not a quality post a quality post is all about how large is your post, but campaign managers sometimes doesn't like to accept or hire some users whom their profile contain small writing without reading how meaningful their post is, I even prefer the people who make four stanza of posts with understandable use of English and meaningful, its not how large and characters your post contain before your post cam be qualify as a quality. I don't want to mention a name, but their is a user in the forum whose post lines doesn't go above three to four lines, but when reading his or her post, you will understand the point is making and you will also know that he hit the nail at head whenever you come across of his post, what we need is a post that's answerable to our question, not a post that contains more than two hundred words without a cogent point after reading. So let us not judge the characters of words use In a particular post as quality post. When reading across this thread I have come across of a full member rank who also emphasis similarly to my point and I figured out some meanings towards his point. And even some people don't like to read a long post because it's tiring, so it's better or nice to make a short that's meaningful.

But it's okay to have alt's and make shit post with your alt like you doing?
And don't lie to me, everyone saw what they saw its so damn obvious.  :P
You are the biggest Signature campaign whore here tbh.

It is true for some users, not most of the users, that they constantly create new topics without regard to the quality of the topics. They are posting whatever they want and there is no educational content through their posts. They are creating similar topics in one section and all their topics and posts are baseless. Again there are some signature campaign promoters who always make baseless shitposts to fulfill the signature post quota, thus questioning the quality of the topic.

The purpose of every thread is either to convey information or seeking advice from people and so but there are some threads that has a long quantity of content but hardly to understand any information from there but perhaps we shouldn't generalize it because there are also threads that has a lot of quantity content and with an informative message and very quality content, actually I observed that most people believes that a lengthy message tends to draw more attention of readers so words that was supposed to be summarized with four lines will be expanded to be more than seven lines, for me it doesn't matter how quantity your thread is but what matters is how quality and informative your post is.

Big posts are not problematic until they follow the flow and really ad some value top the topic that is being posted. In my opinion quality always win over quantity. Saying things precisely save time of both parties.

Some long posts are actually self explanatory to the readers but it is important to keep it short and summarize as best as you can in order not to keep the readers bore and exhaust while reading your post. Although when you enjoy reading some posts, due to content it contains and the message in it, you won't realize how long they are until you are done reading and you'll now be wondering how you were able to read it to the end. I personally don't like reading long post for personal reasons but when it is seems interesting from the topic and the start, I might be tempt to read through but sadly, some long post have nothing to write home about than wasting one's time.

Short and direct posts aid understanding better compared to long post and make it easy for one to contribute in such conversations. You might forget some things you read from the beginning of long post before you could even finish reading the post. It also depends on the topic of discussion because some issues can not be presented in a short and precise thread without involving long explanation.

A quality post can be short or long depending on the message it intends to pass. While it is better to always make posts concise for fast reading, there is still a need to make them understandable. I have seen long posts in this forum that were very helpful. In fact, you will enjoy reading interesting and quality posts no matter how long they look.

Some original posters might want to use personal experience or examples to make the explanation simple and comprehensible. So these additions might make the post to become long. It is not also good to expect all the posts to be brief, it might be a sign of impatient or lack of interest to learn. We shouldn't be victims of the current trend where people want shortcuts to acquire knowledge.

Just as you have said, I am not really a fan of reading too much of a lengthy post mate but sometimes I take my time to do read them because there is always something in nothing to learn about. some people write lengthy posts while some are just as little as possible that they could do to communicate with their readers. 

Really, some people try their best to summarize, their posts so as to enable people read it through but even at then, most do see reasons writing  a lengthy post as it could be of help for them to make some little explanations for a better understanding of message being communicated. Sometimes, it could be as a result of requirements here. For instance those into signature campaign are expected to write a certain number of words to qualify and this sometimes requires some posters write lengthy post and still communicate. A lengthy post is not bad but let it pass across information it requires.

I mean for sure it is always great to read something that is straight to the point just because we can easily understand it, and my eyes are not getting tired of reading it because it is only a few lines, I know it wasn't really a long post unlike some post where It is just too long, its kinda hard to read it and I always feels like they just trying to make it longer so that probably members are gonna think that it is a quality post. Not realizing the quality over quantity thing, since quantity doesnt really mean that the post is going to be quality, the quality of the post doesnt really depend on the quantity of the post so it doesnt matter if you have a short or long post.

Not totally a few words since that could be marked as spam since most of the newbies just post on a topic with only a few words and not making any sense, I think the standard was around 150-200 characters at least, not necessarily but at least make some pointers on the topic so that readers can easily understand it.

Yeah I totally agree with you on that, short post are easy to understand than a lengthy post because there are people who doesn't enjoy reading a lengthy post were as they get bored before finishing it but there are also some quality post you will come across after reading it there is a joy you will be having because of the way is being structured, but the fact is that no matter how short and information a post is there's always some discussions that requires a large quantity of content to smoothly direct the message on the point it was Intended for it, so not all the post that can be summarized with a short words.

I totally agree with you that the forum needs quality not quantity. If you write a very long post like an essay then it's not worthwhile as compared to a person who writes just 5 to 6 lines and makes the idea clear. I am not pointing directly at anybody but I saw some members that follow the quantity pattern but through this thread, I am convincing them to not use that pattern. If you want to get merited then just write in short so that the reader can't be bored and always be straightforward in your points do not mix one idea into another and also stay away from repetition I mean if you write one thing above then do not write it at the bottom again. To get merits or take the best feedback back just write a good, short, and clear post that at least the newbie or member can understand. If you are looking for an example then I recommend the legendary rank of this forum look at their post and then write in that pattern.

I do think that the problem with most newbies is that they often associate quantity = quality; which in fact is not always the case.

The more users that make their post longer, the more that readers would get very disinterested in reading their posts (though this is considered in a case-to-case basis). While posts may be long, I do agree with your statement that any thread should be at least concise and straight to the point to avoid any kind of spam or unnecessary information that are irrelevant to the post.

Reading long post gets me more tiring so I'm not actually a fond of it. It would be more convenient for the readers to read a short post but the contents are well explained and summarized. Unlike those long post that have no clear point of view, and even if we get to read the whole post, I just think that I still didn't get the whole idea of the post. So for me it's best to avoid that kind of post. Let's focus on the content quality and how it can help and leave a positive impression to the readers.

And most of those long post have countless errors as well that’s why I prefer to make a thread that is short but precise, as long as the message I want to relay is present, for me that’s good enough. However, there are also long post that deserve multiple merits, that even if the article is long, it’s still well explained and the readers can easily understand what’s the poster is pointing about. But my worries is that most of us here gets easily tired even by seeing a longer post, so just a piece of advice, always stick to your point so you can avoid writing unnecessary thoughts or ideas.

This kind of work is mainly done by people who are new to the forum, they jump into writing different episodes without addressing the main point. And they think that making a big post line like this might be standard, but it will never be standard if you write stories unnecessarily without wrong points. Also, people are very fond of such long registrations because of which most of the people do not read the big posts very carefully and rather skip them. There are many users who post such posts with the aim of increasing the posts rather than shortening them, without points such as beelines that do not work, but they are never read carefully by another person. So I think to make good quality post not only increase the episode but talk about few points which is considered as quality post, and definitely make line for posting in short form that everyone will read and gain knowledge.

They will learn over time. We were all newbies at one point, and there were a lot of things that we didn't know, we obviously used to do a lot of things that we were not supposed to do that way, but as time went by, we learned everything little by little and today we are capable of discussing the mistakes of other newbies. So, the main issue is if they don't learn over time and keep doing that even when they get old even if their rank stays the same in here.

When you are learning and growing, your mistakes will mostly be ignored because people will see that you are at least progressing, but if you keep making the same mistakes again and again without showing any growth, that makes it difficult for people to ignore the mistakes you are making.

Quality post has a lot to do with the message the post is passing to it's audience than the number of lines in a post. Do you know you can write many lines and still give out gibberish?

Maybe at that time your post needed some lacking lines to complete a sense in your message but that doesn't mean you've to always pour in many lines to every post you' create.

There are messages you convey in a post that doesn't warrant too many lines but if you insist on increasing lines you just be reducing the quality of your post and depressing the reader with much lines to read.

The matter of quality post is always confusing in the forum, especially for newcomers and most times I do not blame them because no matter however you look at the matter, quality post in this forum is largely measured by the length of the post. This is the reason that some managers will tell you that any post that is less than 150 words would not be counted. So this does not mean that whatever anyone is writting, they should make it unnecessarily long. They should not also be rules for you to make a post. There are some kind of discussion that two lines will be able to convey while there are some discussions that we need upto 20 lines in order to have the full understanding of the post.

That is right, but new accounts will think that they need lengthy words before getting recognized in the forum, not knowing that a two-line post that conveys a heavy message is better than a ten-line post that is full of spam and has nothing useful out of it. And sometimes, signature requirements on characters to be in a qualified post for payout also contribute to written or elaborating discussion instead of just passing the message in short words and moving on.

This matter really look confusing, even me I thought quality post is when the article is very long that will cover almost ten lines, but sincerely speaking is now I understand what the quality post means. I prefer the quality than the quantity, but sometimes it depends on the type of information they are trying to pass, I have the habit of not reading long article because sometimes when I start I use to forget what I read from the beginning due to the longness of the article, and also find it difficult to understand, but if the story or the article is short I grab it easily and my understanding is very fast, and also making a reply is very quick.

I faced the same thing too. I was thinking it was a lengthy post with lots of words and expressions to everyone to read not having the knowledge that just three line sentences would make meaningful thoughts and message passed across. Until I started reading through many posts and replies to see for myself and then I realised that it doesn't necessarily mean that one would write a long sentences to make meaningful thoughts but just fee words alone can do that better. 
As you have said, some requirements would warrant one to write such lengthy post with a broad explanations and facts alongside details to make up the requirements. These are sometimes what results to the lengthy posts you see on some threads.

Totally agree, certain topics do need to be written in detail and that's very much understandable(like a walkthrough for example), but in threads where details aren't really necessary and one wants to read several posts and alike.. personally it will be a TLDR.

Besides quality Information needs to communicate, user targeted, relevant and straight to the point..if it has these qualities then it should be considered as a quality post, just my 2cents!

Most users like to avoid writing such short posts for fear of being classified as one-liners. That's posters whose posts hardy cross two lines. Again, those who write lengthy posts most times do that to meet up word and character requirement for their signature campaigns. It's not as if their intention is didactic in anyway.

On the whole, I don't like reading lengthy posts except the posts are the OPs or the posters are good at making their narrative page turners.

Well I've always looked up to you and I've always known that you barely get involved in threads that don't seem serious especially from the tittle except you want to caution the user or have very important message to pass across.
Well I do agree that one of the reasons why people write very long post is to meet up signature Character count and I think that's not right since campaigns ask for 250 characters, there is no need stressing as just a 3 line write up could get you those requirements, so no need to write episode

It isn't confusing, there is already a thread for guidelines on how to make a quality post.  If you are interested here is the list(the last link is a technique to make your post look better):

How to make High Quality Post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3170596.0)
[GUIDE] A good post/reply and formatting [UPDATED] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224196.0)
How to Create a Quality Post (Topics). (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5394165.0)
[Tips] Posting technique (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4667594.0)

If the post is substantial, not off topic then no matter how short it is, it can be a quality post.

Like when the question is only answerable by yes or no.  A simple answer of yes can be a quality post. Since it can help to clear the confusion of the one who is asking the question. 

I believe what matters most in this discussion is the quality of the post we write, it doesn't really matter if they're long or short but they should have some atom of quality in them so the reader doesn't waste time reading something that won't add value to his life. We can't necessary tell people how to write because we have those that love to write on the forum and at every opportunity they get they'll want to experiment their feelings in writing while we have those that always love going straight to the point without any delay and both writing pattern should be welcomed on the forum. If the forum only gets straight to the point discussion then we won't have a continuous discussion on the thread and those are necessary to keep the thread alive (but obvious they have to be on topic discussion and not offtopic).


We have some members that are re known for this posting pattern and they're doing great as their contributions gets merited and we also have those that spent time giving us full details explantation and their posts are also doing well so again I say, the context of the replies matters alot. If there's a topic that I'm very familiar with I'll love to experience myself on those topics and when it comes to those that I have moderate knowledge on, I also try to stay moderate so I don't make a fool of myself. It's also a misconception that the more your post looks long the higher it is for you to get merited and we have to let go of that myth and focus on quality instead of quantity always.

I have never heard of forgetfulness when article is very long. I know it is possible but it should be rare. If someone is reading a meaningful article that has strong connections from one paragraph to another, there shouldn't be any room for one to forget what they have read.  They will only forget if the long article is uninteresting, in such cases, I do not even have the patience to finish reading the article.

I have read many articles about making a quality post and I understood that there is no single way to making a quality post. It is not also something that is taught over night.

Yes. Useful. and why is it still not optimal, I think that's still normal because each person also has their own individual guidelines regarding different word limits, format and tone and what to write in their posts. Even if the delivery is felt to be lacking or something else, someone will respond to contribute and not leave the discussion.

That's right, it must have meaning, be original, have regular words, be simple and easy to understand and have content such as subject, predicate and object.

Long posts don't necessarily mean all the content is on target, some have repetitive writing, some have explanations that are difficult for some members to understand. A good summary with a simple explanation makes it easier for the reader, even if it is written in just a few lines, it is also necessary to use simple language to make it easier for newcomers to understand the meaning of what they are reading. I'm not the type of person who is lazy about reading, but I often pass by writing that doesn't really benefit the reader.

Your opinion is correct, friend. Because for some people, reading writing or articles that are too long is very tiring. Because in the end can't get too many points from the writing. But even so, each member of this forum has their own writing style. Some tend to be short, some are medium, and some are very long. However, these three criteria can be categorized as posts with quality content. But it all depends on how smart the writer is. Because sometimes there are forum members who make short posts, but the content is useless and in the end many posts like that are deleted. However, there are also those who have a writing style that is not too long, but the content of the writing is very meaningful and of very high quality.

Likewise, with forum members whose writing styles are medium and long, there will definitely be those whose writing is of high quality and there are also those whose writing/arguments are of less quality.
So it can be concluded that each person/member of this forum has their own characteristics in terms of writing so that the meaning of what they write can be conveyed well. So in the end, it all comes back to the tastes of each individual on this forum. And this is where we have to be able to appreciate what other people have made (posts, replies) and have to be able to tolerate fellow members (as long as the posts are quality).

Exactly, I agree with you, it is better to go straight to the point, so that the person reading does not feel discouraged when reading that threads, many people don't like long articles, so it is better to write it in short so that everyone understands where you are ending too, but sometimes long article is very good because he is sure that you know what you are doing but he must be in point meaning quality, some long article is very interesting when reading because you will know what is talking about the wells are in good shapes some long article, people don't understand it because language he used will not be understood by everyone, and some newcomers won't be able know what his talking about, therefore it is preferable to use common English that people would understand your Words.

Quality and quantity are both important, because "quantity makes quality". I also agree with you, sometimes when making a post so that it is easy to understand and understand as a whole we have to make the post longer. There are also those who only need to make a two-line post but the important points they want to convey can already be understood by readers.

Actually, this depends on the context of the discussion being discussed, because there are also discussions that require lengthy explanations so that what is conveyed is easy to understand. So for me there is no problem making long posts or short posts, the important thing is that the purpose we want to convey can be understood by readers. BTW, I like reading long posts from JayJuanGee.

Newbies at some point are really more exposed to committing mistakes, simply because they are still in the exploration stage. But eventually, when they are being criticized every now and then, more on constructive criticism actually, I guess they will realized that there should be changes and that they need to improve what needs to improve. As long as they're open to it, then they will actually learn to improve their post and make short but direct to the point post instead.

I don't agree with you on this and I don't think quantity actually makes for quality as I've seen very short post that contained Alot of quality and even earned Alot of merits as a show of appreciation for it's quality.
I'm practically not against lengthy post especially when there is actually a need for it and I also agree with you that the case usage also matters Alot when talking about quality and quantity.
Talking about JayJuanGee, I think we all know he doesn't just make random post but rather takes Alot of effort and time to put out a post and his exceptional.

I totally agree with you here, it always quality over quantity, but for beginners like me please pardon us because we are most times not properly oriented,  we just want to feel active, but as I saw this post, you really caught my attention and for a matter of fact you are right, quality over quantity.

That's absolutely true.... Alot of peeps feel saying alot could kinda like slowdown the process of immediate justice and prevent the history from possibly becoming a deterrent - that happens in a case of plagiarism and spamming - or quicken the process of instant conviction or assimilation to whatever unproved point they might have been on....
But the thing is; "just because you're saying alot more doesn't make alot more said" There's a limit to what the public wants to read... especially since reading is really stressful.

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If the writer appears to be spinning words just to increase the quantity of the content that attempt could stress out the reader and he will not find the article worthy to read, and one does not necessarily need to write 5 - 10 lines before making a clear statements in comments, even just two or three lines that are born out of personal efforts will portray clearer statement than a wall of text that is filled with just trash.

You don't have to blame those who write a very long post just to meet up quality post, some do that without even noticing that they're going off color. And they think by getting everything out will make sense more and they see short post as low quality post that it won't attract attention, that's how some people feel it works, too much expectations, but I know with time they would stop that long post stuff and start getting things in details than very long post that sends no meaningful message. When you're desperate to get something it do happen to anyone who's new here.

Yes, sometimes I see posts like that, they twist the words to make the writing look long. Even though the writing to fulfill the campaign signature is not too long, only around 150 words or around 2 lines of writing. However, I also see that there are posts that are long but of good quality, posts like this have comprehensive content. I think it's better to just write enough, if occasionally it needs to be extended to suit the demands of the campaign, maybe it's not a serious problem.

However, not all topics need to be short and precise as there are broad topics that need to be explained well and it can only be possible by making a long post so that all the important details will be listed there. That's up to the readers if they can't still get the main content of the post. As long as you never miss all the important factors, I believe that post is still a quality post.

Most of the posts I've made for newbies are too many lines that take a long time to read and can't be understood. But it is true that when newbies make such mistakes they will definitely improve it gradually, and later they will try to summarize directly without making such posts. Shortening their criticisms from long to short must be their utmost effort, which may take a lot of time. Moreover, they need sufficient knowledge to improve the quality of constructive posts, which beginners cannot acquire at the beginning. Of course, newbies will improve their posts when they can understand and learn by posting in short form, and then they will talk directly to the point, so everyone can gain knowledge by reading those posts.

As long as posts are having substance I don't mind long posts. However if they are too long that you feel like leaving the page as soon as you open it, it's good to give tl;dr version.

I don't care that much about size of my own posts, if thoughts keep coming, post will be bigger otherwise it won't. In giving readers consideration, you lose genuity sometimes, it's better to go with whatever you find comfortable.

Quality is better than quantity in posts here because it allows for more meaningful & valuable discussions. When we focus on quality we prioritise well thought out & insightful contributions that encourage engagement & foster a sense of community. Quality posts tend to provide more depth, knowledge & understanding leading to a higher level of interaction & the development of stronger connections among forum members. Nobody wants to read a long essay, a bunch of waffle when your response can just be a more detailed, concise, informative shorter post.

From a campaign perspective, quantity is important, you must create 25 posts every week to be considered qualified

From a merit perspective, quality is important

The two must work together, it's useless if you only make quality posts once a week.

Some people just write without proper enquiry of what they are talking about. This is an educative forum, a lot is shared and learned in this platform. So making proper enquiry before coming to share idea is a very necessary part of the process in the forum. Making quality post will help readers get proper information and understanding in the propose topic that is being discussed. But due to the several campaign task given to users, the rush to meet up with the task of the campaign will bring rise to people posting quantity instead of quality.
 To ensure proper quality content, do your findings and research on the topic you’re trying to talk about. So that readers can find your post relevant and useful. Posting both quantity and quality post should go in handy this will not only help build your profile but also give you the merit you deserve. Even though you can’t make quantity post, but make sure your few lines is authentic and  relevant to the community.

I spend 3-5 minutes thinking before writing - I do it to support a good argument even though many of them don't consider it a quality post. Thinking before writing is recommended because by doing so you have tried to convey something that can at least be justified by your own thoughts regardless of your knowledge or other people's judgment.

Writing something long does not mean it has quality – actually something quality is not just a long piece of writing but really depends on the information you want to convey and how useful your post is. All qualities are rated by other users - you, me and all other users just write and let them judge it.

Just write and let them judge is a very nice ending and I've always been a very good fan of yours, maybe from a distance because I've read several of your post and you've always been precisely with your writings and I will always commend you for making reading easier for your readers.
Some persons don't even bother to think before writing but what they rather do, is be in haste to respond to every post, hence writing off topic post even without them realizing that they already went off topic.

I've always known that, people confuse quantity with quality and think the more long their writing, the more quality they get which is wrong.

This forum teaches the quality of writing and not the quantity. If there are still those who pursue quantity without quality because they have a Signature task, of course it is the Manager's job to provide an evaluation to its members. But not all Signature supporters do that. In fact, I have to think 10-20 minutes to find supporting fact data. Because usually the argument will be better if it has a clear data source. I also agree that quality does not have to be long, but sometimes it needs a long explanation to provide a more detailed explanation because the understanding of members of each forum is very different.

That's right, quality posts don't have to be long as long as they contain elements of correct and precise information when you explain them. Besides that, the quality of posts is also not measured by how many people like your posts with merit because in many cases there are many quality posts that do not get merit as they should for one reason or another.

I completely agree that quality is the most important thing a poster should strive for over quantity, even if you are posting within your campaign's maximum payout amount. Posting more isn't a problem as long as you're doing it for something of quality rather than just to avoid deleting posts that keep you from getting paid.

Do you see that what I wrote above is irrelevant? I'm just keeping it very simple, so quality and quantity are important and they have to go together. The point is, you wrote it quite long

I think the both of you are not making a mistake in your opinion cause you all are correct but when it comes to short quality post, the ability of the writer to summarize the message or information that is contained in his post in few lines tells how much writing skills he has but nevertheles, not everyone has the ability to summarize some useful information in few lines but if the writer is able to increases the length of the post due to his inability to summarize it in few lines without going off key, I am the quality still counts because of how detailed the information is presented and the message it carries.

A lot of people in the forum has the ability to pass good informations just by writing few lines while others must write very lengthy post to be able to communicate effectively but once they remain inline with the subject of discussion without going off key, I think both writers are said to be good writers regardless of the length of the post they make.

That’s true, so many instances of writing a very long article and talking of same thing over and over again has confused many people in this forum, most especially the newbies.
I will advise that when writing an article one should pick out the vital parts to discuss and make it brief so that other can read and be enlightened on it.

The best advice is for the person to go for quality and forget about even buying them because there is nothing more appealing than. Nowadays, considering the price you will spend when you go for quality, a lot of people will rush and go for quantity just because of their pocket. This mentality is killing the poor because in the process of going for something cheap you will realize that you have even spent more and that is what he was aviod.

Each user's writing and explanation style is different, sometimes it is long like a wall of text that is difficult to read. Sometimes there are also short but meaningless ones, and it all really depends on knowledge. There are long posts but they have meaning, but short posts that are concise and clear are the posts you might expect. It's up to you which one you want to get, it's not a problem. But you can't change someone's style easily, and if their posts repeat themselves without any meaning then report them as spam.

Shouldn't the quality of the post be what is looked at? I mean, the post can be long or short, it shouldn't matter as long as it is informative. This is just my opinion.
I've been on this forum for a while and although I've not been active and still new, I've read a lot of posts. Some posts need explanation and it has to be long for it to be fully explained.

I agree that there are posts that are just long and full of nothing, but condemning long posts shouldn't be the way to handle it.
I'm still relatively very new here, so I stand to be corrected.

Exactly, quality is what shoukd be looked at irrespective of the post length and basically I have no single issues with the length of a post provided it is quality  and informative but where the issue lies is with people who make unnecessarily long post that end up having no quality or passing no relevant information maybe in cause of making the post seem having quality.
What I'm saying in general is that, some persons at some point confuse quantity with quality and some persons think that simply because is lengthy,  it doesn't have quality but that isn't the case as I've also seen very short post doing absolutely well.

I'm glad you already realized this and realizing one's mistakes is the first step to changes and inhope you try to make adjustments to your writings.

Well, it’s not actually on the length of the post that matters, but it’s how the post is written precisely and direct to the point. While some posters often resort into writing long articles especially that all details should never be missed because they’re all important to make the reader understands better, but let’s also consider that reading long articles is time consuming and it will only make the reader gets bored and tired eventually. That is why as much as possible, avoid making long articles, it will only confuse the readers the main point of the article.

This also sometimes happen to me as make post with much words without considering the readers. The funniest thing is that I myself most times fine it difficult to read post with much words. Like OP has said, it's better to be small with quality rather than quantity.

Basically it's about orientation, most persons have got the orientation that they must make a length post to gain attention enough and merits probably because they think quantity means quality meanwhile it's not applicable in most cases, like you rightly said some straight to the point post even gat more quality than some episodes.

I think this post is most applicable and important for newbies so they can be properly oriented, in a bid to get a writing pattern they should also have this at the back of their minds too.

Well spoken and is good seeing newbies with more matured minds and your profile already bookmarked and I think I owe you one for this straight to the point post as well.
Basically I don't have issues with long post but I have issues with people confusing quantity with quality and in some cases, an informative post can be long without an offense and not the other way round where people write very long post and after burning your time to read, you discover the writer was only talking about one same thing.
I also agree with you that it is also an orientation guide that causes writing very long post and most times, when people introduce the forum to others, they give them the orientation that longer post attract more merit which is wrong

Long posts may contain new knowledge that must be conveyed coherently and regularly. maybe it's okay to make a long post like that.
However, if the post is like a copy-paste of the article, it will clearly be very annoying. why not summarize the main points of the information shared so that it is shorter and the purpose of the information can be conveyed briefly and simply.
We must still emphasize the forum's purpose for discussion, the information shared may be long or short. and each member's writing style is also different. but hopefully whatever is created will still have content.

It can be so confusing sometimes before you finish reading the article, you may even forget what the article is all about. Despite the fact most long articles contains details information of what the writer is talking about but it should be precise and direct then if the reader ask for more emphasis then you can explain more to them on what they want to know about your article, my own opinion though

Well most people mistake quantity to quality and vice versa. The quality of a post doesn't depend on how short or lengthy a thread is but it depends on the body and information it carries.  Lengthy post shouldn't be a problem except it didn't carry the necessary information, trust me there are  some thread you will be reading because of the information it contains you will be interested to read .
However,  not all lengthy post are useless some are very interesting

Actually I’ve never been against long post but where I have issues and concern with is people who write incredibly very long post without considering the readers and most times, you have to read a post to the end or almost the end to grasp what the op is actually trying to say and just as I’ve said in the past that the quality of a post doesn’t necessarily have to be judged by how long it is because I’ve seen very short and precise posts that were constructively written and meets all other criteria’s and there are also very reputable members of the forum who writes very short post but are very influential on the forum and some of those users are also given preferences in signature campaigns which is a clear sign that post quality doesn’t lie in its length.

I believe that those who can simplify complex concepts in a clear and concise manner are truly smart. Many folks fall into the trap of thinking that explaining things with complicated terms makes someone a genius and looks cool. In reality, that's not aligned with the goal of enlightening others. It's the ones who break down intricate ideas into straightforward explanations that truly shine. So, let's appreciate those who make things easy to grasp rather than those who add unnecessary complexity. It's about making knowledge accessible to everyone, not just the select few.

I agree, many people prefer brevity and clarity in their messages. Some people believe that long texts are not always necessary to convey information. It is important to find a balance between length of text and content in order to attract the attention of readers. There are very few topics that can be read with satisfaction.

This happen here often, people create thread, not minding how the audience being the contributors will feel, I know that threads are not created to entice anyone because what matter is the information that is attached to it, every is supposed to convey a good message that will trigger users to come up with their various opinion, I don't believe in versed writing, I go for a piece of writing that solves the problem with good quality, creating thread all the time will course this, but taking much time learning and relearning will help to come up with good threads that tend solve users problem, passing your information to readers must not be in large text, so that many readers will be interested in what you are bringing to the board.

Sometimes a long article writing makes no cogent point of understanding during the reading because the read will not be concentrated when reading a such article, but their is something I understand concerning long writing, some people think that long composing article is what makes you a quality poster in the forum, but I do stand to say that long article is not what makes some of the writing or some of the writing styles to be good or bad, so an article quality is measurable by how meaningful is the article not by the length of the characters