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September 27, 2023, 03:23:29 PM
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Recently I've seen alot of threads where people just jump into writing an incredible episode without putting their readers into consideration.
I'm not a fan of reading very long articles and most times I think some posts ought to be simplified and summarized to get ease of attention and from my observation,  it seems most users confuse quantity with quality and think, writing very long post simply means the post has quality  which is wrong.

I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely  very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from  them.

The matter of quality post is always confusing in the forum, especially for newcomers and most times I do not blame them because no matter however you look at the matter, quality post in this forum is largely measured by the length of the post. This is the reason that some managers will tell you that any post that is less than 150 words would not be counted. So this does not mean that whatever anyone is writting, they should make it unnecessarily long. They should not also be rules for you to make a post. There are some kind of discussion that two lines will be able to convey while there are some discussions that we need upto 20 lines in order to have the full understanding of the post.
Quality and quantity are both important, because "quantity makes quality". I also agree with you, sometimes when making a post so that it is easy to understand and understand as a whole we have to make the post longer. There are also those who only need to make a two-line post but the important points they want to convey can already be understood by readers.

Actually, this depends on the context of the discussion being discussed, because there are also discussions that require lengthy explanations so that what is conveyed is easy to understand. So for me there is no problem making long posts or short posts, the important thing is that the purpose we want to convey can be understood by readers. BTW, I like reading long posts from JayJuanGee.

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September 27, 2023, 09:58:32 PM
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I do think that the problem with most newbies is that they often associate quantity = quality; which in fact is not always the case.

The more users that make their post longer, the more that readers would get very disinterested in reading their posts (though this is considered in a case-to-case basis). While posts may be long, I do agree with your statement that any thread should be at least concise and straight to the point to avoid any kind of spam or unnecessary information that are irrelevant to the post.
They will learn over time. We were all newbies at one point, and there were a lot of things that we didn't know, we obviously used to do a lot of things that we were not supposed to do that way, but as time went by, we learned everything little by little and today we are capable of discussing the mistakes of other newbies. So, the main issue is if they don't learn over time and keep doing that even when they get old even if their rank stays the same in here.

When you are learning and growing, your mistakes will mostly be ignored because people will see that you are at least progressing, but if you keep making the same mistakes again and again without showing any growth, that makes it difficult for people to ignore the mistakes you are making.
Newbies at some point are really more exposed to committing mistakes, simply because they are still in the exploration stage. But eventually, when they are being criticized every now and then, more on constructive criticism actually, I guess they will realized that there should be changes and that they need to improve what needs to improve. As long as they're open to it, then they will actually learn to improve their post and make short but direct to the point post instead.
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September 27, 2023, 10:43:31 PM
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Quality and quantity are both important, because "quantity makes quality".
I don't agree with you on this and I don't think quantity actually makes for quality as I've seen very short post that contained Alot of quality and even earned Alot of merits as a show of appreciation for it's quality.
I'm practically not against lengthy post especially when there is actually a need for it and I also agree with you that the case usage also matters Alot when talking about quality and quantity.
Talking about JayJuanGee, I think we all know he doesn't just make random post but rather takes Alot of effort and time to put out a post and his exceptional.

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September 28, 2023, 06:59:31 PM
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I totally agree with you here, it always quality over quantity, but for beginners like me please pardon us because we are most times not properly oriented,  we just want to feel active, but as I saw this post, you really caught my attention and for a matter of fact you are right, quality over quantity.
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September 28, 2023, 09:59:04 PM
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That's absolutely true.... Alot of peeps feel saying alot could kinda like slowdown the process of immediate justice and prevent the history from possibly becoming a deterrent - that happens in a case of plagiarism and spamming - or quicken the process of instant conviction or assimilation to whatever unproved point they might have been on....
But the thing is; "just because you're saying alot more doesn't make alot more said" There's a limit to what the public wants to read... especially since reading is really stressful.

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September 28, 2023, 10:32:56 PM
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If the writer appears to be spinning words just to increase the quantity of the content that attempt could stress out the reader and he will not find the article worthy to read, and one does not necessarily need to write 5 - 10 lines before making a clear statements in comments, even just two or three lines that are born out of personal efforts will portray clearer statement than a wall of text that is filled with just trash.

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September 28, 2023, 11:14:07 PM
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Recently I've seen alot of threads where people just jump into writing an incredible episode without putting their readers into consideration.
I'm not a fan of reading very long articles and most times I think some posts ought to be simplified and summarized to get ease of attention and from my observation,  it seems most users confuse quantity with quality and think, writing very long post simply means the post has quality  which is wrong.

I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely  very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from  them.

You don't have to blame those who write a very long post just to meet up quality post, some do that without even noticing that they're going off color. And they think by getting everything out will make sense more and they see short post as low quality post that it won't attract attention, that's how some people feel it works, too much expectations, but I know with time they would stop that long post stuff and start getting things in details than very long post that sends no meaningful message. When you're desperate to get something it do happen to anyone who's new here.

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September 28, 2023, 11:27:18 PM
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If the writer appears to be spinning words just to increase the quantity of the content that attempt could stress out the reader and he will not find the article worthy to read, and one does not necessarily need to write 5 - 10 lines before making a clear statements in comments, even just two or three lines that are born out of personal efforts will portray clearer statement than a wall of text that is filled with just trash.

Yes, sometimes I see posts like that, they twist the words to make the writing look long. Even though the writing to fulfill the campaign signature is not too long, only around 150 words or around 2 lines of writing. However, I also see that there are posts that are long but of good quality, posts like this have comprehensive content. I think it's better to just write enough, if occasionally it needs to be extended to suit the demands of the campaign, maybe it's not a serious problem.
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September 28, 2023, 11:30:02 PM
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Recently I've seen alot of threads where people just jump into writing an incredible episode without putting their readers into consideration.
I'm not a fan of reading very long articles and most times I think some posts ought to be simplified and summarized to get ease of attention and from my observation,  it seems most users confuse quantity with quality and think, writing very long post simply means the post has quality  which is wrong.

I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely  very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from  them.
However, not all topics need to be short and precise as there are broad topics that need to be explained well and it can only be possible by making a long post so that all the important details will be listed there. That's up to the readers if they can't still get the main content of the post. As long as you never miss all the important factors, I believe that post is still a quality post.

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September 29, 2023, 04:35:19 PM
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I do think that the problem with most newbies is that they often associate quantity = quality; which in fact is not always the case.

The more users that make their post longer, the more that readers would get very disinterested in reading their posts (though this is considered in a case-to-case basis). While posts may be long, I do agree with your statement that any thread should be at least concise and straight to the point to avoid any kind of spam or unnecessary information that are irrelevant to the post.
They will learn over time. We were all newbies at one point, and there were a lot of things that we didn't know, we obviously used to do a lot of things that we were not supposed to do that way, but as time went by, we learned everything little by little and today we are capable of discussing the mistakes of other newbies. So, the main issue is if they don't learn over time and keep doing that even when they get old even if their rank stays the same in here.

When you are learning and growing, your mistakes will mostly be ignored because people will see that you are at least progressing, but if you keep making the same mistakes again and again without showing any growth, that makes it difficult for people to ignore the mistakes you are making.
Newbies at some point are really more exposed to committing mistakes, simply because they are still in the exploration stage. But eventually, when they are being criticized every now and then, more on constructive criticism actually, I guess they will realized that there should be changes and that they need to improve what needs to improve. As long as they're open to it, then they will actually learn to improve their post and make short but direct to the point post instead.
Most of the posts I've made for newbies are too many lines that take a long time to read and can't be understood. But it is true that when newbies make such mistakes they will definitely improve it gradually, and later they will try to summarize directly without making such posts. Shortening their criticisms from long to short must be their utmost effort, which may take a lot of time. Moreover, they need sufficient knowledge to improve the quality of constructive posts, which beginners cannot acquire at the beginning. Of course, newbies will improve their posts when they can understand and learn by posting in short form, and then they will talk directly to the point, so everyone can gain knowledge by reading those posts.

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October 01, 2023, 12:37:08 AM
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As long as posts are having substance I don't mind long posts. However if they are too long that you feel like leaving the page as soon as you open it, it's good to give tl;dr version.

I don't care that much about size of my own posts, if thoughts keep coming, post will be bigger otherwise it won't. In giving readers consideration, you lose genuity sometimes, it's better to go with whatever you find comfortable.


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Quality is better than quantity in posts here because it allows for more meaningful & valuable discussions. When we focus on quality we prioritise well thought out & insightful contributions that encourage engagement & foster a sense of community. Quality posts tend to provide more depth, knowledge & understanding leading to a higher level of interaction & the development of stronger connections among forum members. Nobody wants to read a long essay, a bunch of waffle when your response can just be a more detailed, concise, informative shorter post.

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October 01, 2023, 09:43:43 AM
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Quality and quantity are both important, because "quantity makes quality".
I don't agree with you on this and I don't think quantity actually makes for quality as I've seen very short post that contained Alot of quality and even earned Alot of merits as a show of appreciation for it's quality.


From a campaign perspective, quantity is important, you must create 25 posts every week to be considered qualified

From a merit perspective, quality is important

The two must work together, it's useless if you only make quality posts once a week.

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From a campaign perspective, quantity is important, you must create 25 posts every week to be considered qualified

From a merit perspective, quality is important

The two must work together, it's useless if you only make quality posts once a week.
Some people just write without proper enquiry of what they are talking about. This is an educative forum, a lot is shared and learned in this platform. So making proper enquiry before coming to share idea is a very necessary part of the process in the forum. Making quality post will help readers get proper information and understanding in the propose topic that is being discussed. But due to the several campaign task given to users, the rush to meet up with the task of the campaign will bring rise to people posting quantity instead of quality.
 To ensure proper quality content, do your findings and research on the topic you’re trying to talk about. So that readers can find your post relevant and useful. Posting both quantity and quality post should go in handy this will not only help build your profile but also give you the merit you deserve. Even though you can’t make quantity post, but make sure your few lines is authentic and  relevant to the community.
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October 03, 2023, 10:17:07 PM
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I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely  very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from  them.
I spend 3-5 minutes thinking before writing - I do it to support a good argument even though many of them don't consider it a quality post. Thinking before writing is recommended because by doing so you have tried to convey something that can at least be justified by your own thoughts regardless of your knowledge or other people's judgment.

Writing something long does not mean it has quality – actually something quality is not just a long piece of writing but really depends on the information you want to convey and how useful your post is. All qualities are rated by other users - you, me and all other users just write and let them judge it.

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October 03, 2023, 10:31:57 PM
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I've seen very short and straight to the point post doing extremely  very well on the forum and people ought to them learn from  them.
I spend 3-5 minutes thinking before writing - I do it to support a good argument even though many of them don't consider it a quality post. Thinking before writing is recommended because by doing so you have tried to convey something that can at least be justified by your own thoughts regardless of your knowledge or other people's judgment.

Writing something long does not mean it has quality – actually something quality is not just a long piece of writing but really depends on the information you want to convey and how useful your post is. All qualities are rated by other users - you, me and all other users just write and let them judge it.
Just write and let them judge is a very nice ending and I've always been a very good fan of yours, maybe from a distance because I've read several of your post and you've always been precisely with your writings and I will always commend you for making reading easier for your readers.
Some persons don't even bother to think before writing but what they rather do, is be in haste to respond to every post, hence writing off topic post even without them realizing that they already went off topic.

I've always known that, people confuse quantity with quality and think the more long their writing, the more quality they get which is wrong.

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October 04, 2023, 02:16:08 AM
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I spend 3-5 minutes thinking before writing - I do it to support a good argument even though many of them don't consider it a quality post. Thinking before writing is recommended because by doing so you have tried to convey something that can at least be justified by your own thoughts regardless of your knowledge or other people's judgment.

Writing something long does not mean it has quality – actually something quality is not just a long piece of writing but really depends on the information you want to convey and how useful your post is. All qualities are rated by other users - you, me and all other users just write and let them judge it.

This forum teaches the quality of writing and not the quantity. If there are still those who pursue quantity without quality because they have a Signature task, of course it is the Manager's job to provide an evaluation to its members. But not all Signature supporters do that. In fact, I have to think 10-20 minutes to find supporting fact data. Because usually the argument will be better if it has a clear data source. I also agree that quality does not have to be long, but sometimes it needs a long explanation to provide a more detailed explanation because the understanding of members of each forum is very different.

Reading comprehension involves various factors such as background knowledge, vocabulary and fluency, active reading skills and critical thinking that must work together.

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October 04, 2023, 07:06:13 AM
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This forum teaches the quality of writing and not the quantity. If there are still those who pursue quantity without quality because they have a Signature task, of course it is the Manager's job to provide an evaluation to its members. But not all Signature supporters do that. In fact, I have to think 10-20 minutes to find supporting fact data. Because usually the argument will be better if it has a clear data source. I also agree that quality does not have to be long, but sometimes it needs a long explanation to provide a more detailed explanation because the understanding of members of each forum is very different.
That's right, quality posts don't have to be long as long as they contain elements of correct and precise information when you explain them. Besides that, the quality of posts is also not measured by how many people like your posts with merit because in many cases there are many quality posts that do not get merit as they should for one reason or another.

I completely agree that quality is the most important thing a poster should strive for over quantity, even if you are posting within your campaign's maximum payout amount. Posting more isn't a problem as long as you're doing it for something of quality rather than just to avoid deleting posts that keep you from getting paid.

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October 04, 2023, 12:57:23 PM
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From a campaign perspective, quantity is important, you must create 25 posts every week to be considered qualified

From a merit perspective, quality is important

The two must work together, it's useless if you only make quality posts once a week.
Some people just write without proper enquiry of what they are talking about. This is an educative forum, a lot is shared and learned in this platform. So making proper enquiry before coming to share idea is a very necessary part of the process in the forum. Making quality post will help readers get proper information and understanding in the propose topic that is being discussed. But due to the several campaign task given to users, the rush to meet up with the task of the campaign will bring rise to people posting quantity instead of quality.
 To ensure proper quality content, do your findings and research on the topic you’re trying to talk about. So that readers can find your post relevant and useful. Posting both quantity and quality post should go in handy this will not only help build your profile but also give you the merit you deserve. Even though you can’t make quantity post, but make sure your few lines is authentic and  relevant to the community.


Do you see that what I wrote above is irrelevant? I'm just keeping it very simple, so quality and quantity are important and they have to go together. The point is, you wrote it quite long

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October 04, 2023, 10:28:23 PM
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Quality and quantity are both important, because "quantity makes quality".
I don't agree with you on this and I don't think quantity actually makes for quality as I've seen very short post that contained Alot of quality and even earned Alot of merits as a show of appreciation for it's quality.
I'm practically not against lengthy post especially when there is actually a need for it and I also agree with you that the case usage also matters Alot when talking about quality and quantity.
Talking about JayJuanGee, I think we all know he doesn't just make random post but rather takes Alot of effort and time to put out a post and his exceptional.

I think the both of you are not making a mistake in your opinion cause you all are correct but when it comes to short quality post, the ability of the writer to summarize the message or information that is contained in his post in few lines tells how much writing skills he has but nevertheles, not everyone has the ability to summarize some useful information in few lines but if the writer is able to increases the length of the post due to his inability to summarize it in few lines without going off key, I am the quality still counts because of how detailed the information is presented and the message it carries.

A lot of people in the forum has the ability to pass good informations just by writing few lines while others must write very lengthy post to be able to communicate effectively but once they remain inline with the subject of discussion without going off key, I think both writers are said to be good writers regardless of the length of the post they make.

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