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Title: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Mia Chloe on October 10, 2023, 01:15:39 PM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

Nevertheless, despite these similarities hodling and trading are also distinct this is due to the fact that hodling is usually long termed ( hodling appreciates better during long term.) however trading returns come from short term fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin,some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

3. Long-Term  Gains ;Over time Bitcoin  has shown promising potential in it's price.Hodling  helps you benefit from the long term potential of Which in most cases appreciates better than little price gains from trading.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
 
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: snowpega on October 10, 2023, 01:28:15 PM
I think Hodling is the best way As it the horse of long race and can give desired profit according to your goals on the other hand, Trading is the risky part where you can loose and gain as well Like for that you have to look at market sentiments all the time and Have to jump in the mud like you need to do DYOR sometime you fell prey of FOMO. Due to that you have to take your decisions in hurry or being emotional. You have to Do TA and FA. while in hodl you need not to take that much stress.

I had alot of conversation over hodling in this given thread where alot of seniors share their thoughts and experiences in this thread over it must read..........>>>>Buy the DIP, and HODL! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132720.msg62887083#msg62887083.html)


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: n00ber on October 10, 2023, 01:40:32 PM
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Hodling vs trading

I prefer holding because it doesn't bring too much stress to me and I have more time to do my main job. DCA and holding, are both easy to do and yield better results, IMO. Meanwhile, trading requires a large amount of knowledge and you have to spend a lot of time in front of the computer screen every day to test and analyze the market. But in the end, all of that is not enough for you to make the right trading decisions, things can still go against your predictions and cause you losses. As we all know, trading is much more complicated, and it is not for the masses.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: SamReomo on October 10, 2023, 01:47:39 PM
Holding is for investors and trading is for traders. The investors basically find Bitcoin as an asset that will grow in value if they hold it for long term at least 4 years or more. The investors are the ones who believe in Bitcoin and they suggest everyone to purchase Bitcoin. The traders are basically the ones who are good at trading and they want to earn a certain percentage of income in a week, month, or a year.

The traders are the ones who really don't care much about Bitcoin during their trading session because their main goal is to have profits in short-term and they can sometimes trade wrong coins which may cause huge losses for them. There are a group of traders who believe in Bitcoin trading only and they mostly exchange Bitcoin to another stable coin and again that stable coin to Bitcoin, and during the process they earn some percentage as profit.

We need both of those in Bitcoin ecosystem because both of them are playing good roles for Bitcoin. The investors are the ones who are constantly investing in Bitcoin and they are basically helping the Bitcoin to achieve it's price levels while the traders are also keep the ecosystem active because they are trading Bitcoin on daily basis.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Zlantann on October 10, 2023, 02:17:16 PM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.

Both traders and hodlers can use an exchange to buy or sell their Bitcoin. Long-term investors can sell their Bitcoin through exchanges anytime they want so it is not only traders that use exchanges. It will be more comfortable to say that traders use exchanges more more often than hodlers. But in selling or buying our coins we should also bear in mind the risk associated with using centralised exchanges.

I also think that hodling Bitcoin is more profitable than trading, but it requires a lot of patience and sacrifice. Bitcoin investors don't have a get-rich-quick mentality because they believe they know that their investment is long-term. If you don't want to pay attention to media drama and government policies, just concentrate on long-term hodling. 


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Abu-Naim on October 10, 2023, 02:23:02 PM
Holding is not for the weak once because it takes someone who has financial stability and has spare money for investment to be able to hold bitcoin for a long period of time, while for people who do not have much money for holding bitcoin, they can trade and have some gains if they have knowledge and experience about trading.


2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions

Yes, holding save transaction fee, but some people do use DCA methods to accumulate their bitcoin and it is advisable, I think this transaction cost dose not mean since bitcoin network fee or transaction is not that high and it depend on the network congestion.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: harapan on October 10, 2023, 02:25:12 PM
I will say learn from the best and those who have big and large amounts of Bitcoin.
Micheal Saylor, El Salvador President,  Robert Kiyosaki and those you know are real in for the uprise of Bitcoin,  they want to see you hold than they want to see you trade your coins.

Sowhy not adopt the same way they go. If you can not buy the way they do to accumulate and increase your holdings don't panic just make sure you have something doing as that wouldn't lead to you pushing trade your Bitcoin.
People trade for profits too, the question now is are your chances of profit  accumulations sure?


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: She shining on October 10, 2023, 02:48:13 PM
Hodling is the best since there's no loss in the case of Bitcoin all you have to do is wait. It doesn't mean its easy. Its a psychological battle with everybody having their method of persevering either due to their belief or another reason. Despite my belief in Bitcoin I'm still plagued by doubt and fear when it falls. I don't really have anybody to discuss my pains with but Currently what I do is go to the WO thread and start reading. People there joke and are sometimes happy when Bitcoin falls. They want to buy the dip, this usually helps me persevere and the wait is always worth it. I would be like "they having Bitcoins worth thousands of dollars and ain't scared then why should I"

If there's anything as Anti- trading then I'm one. No matter how good your analysis is a news would still destroy it. The only way you recover is through holding.

My bias view.


Those trading Altcoins have a heart of steel


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Tuturtinular on October 10, 2023, 02:50:42 PM
Both have their respective advantages and risks. hold bitcoin if you only have a little bitcoin then the profits will be small. It takes a lot of capital to hold bitcoin to get big profit, maybe this can be done by buying bitcoin in installments every month. Trading Bitcoin can get daily or weekly profits but the risks are big. So in my opinion there is no best of the two options, just choose the one that we think is the most profitable and suits our passion

But for me, I choose both, hold bitcoins and use them for trading so that I can take weekly or monthly profits and my bitcoin holdings will increase.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Doan9269 on October 10, 2023, 03:01:19 PM
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.

How do we now identify a shitcoin?

There are many possible ways we can know about the project development and their intentions right from how far we were able to make research on the developers, there's no crypto project that will made mention that they are shitcoin even though in reality they were, but we need to deepens and intensify our research on them and part of the constituents we are going to look after are these.

Market cap
Market vol
Developers
Purpose of the project
Liquidity for the project

It is also an important thing to always take good observation on this very aspect that no matter how we have researched about them, there's no assurance that we cannot yet fall their victim of scam.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: DeathAngel on October 10, 2023, 03:10:41 PM
Always best to hodl because bitcoin is still very volatile & you can easily get liquidated trying to trade & time the market. Nobody who has managed to hodl for two full four year cycles has ever lost money. It’s boring & most people don’t have the staying power, patience required but seriously hodling long term is the way to go, it never fails. Trading is gambling & many times you are not a lucky winner.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: tjtonmoy on October 10, 2023, 03:11:01 PM
There has never been any debate about whether to hold Bitcoin or trade it. One can do either or both of them. It's their personal choice. The question arise only when you are confused which one to start first. And here's an idea of what one should do. Holding Bitcoin is a less risky approach. As in newbie who has less knowledge about Bitcoin and Bitcoin trading can always start with HODL. At this point all you need to do is learn how to keep your assets safe and how to keep your emotions in control. That's it. The more time passes by the more profits you will make.

As you are HODLing, your assets are growing. At the same time you can focus on learning how to trade and forget about the holding account for the time being. So two things happen here. One, you get more assets or more value in the future. Two, you learn how to trade and by the time you master it you will have more assets to trade with.

This is a great practice for every newbie. And as I already said, there is no debate about either to hold or tread. You can do both and take advantage of both of them.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: rat03gopoh on October 10, 2023, 03:44:14 PM
Now explain to me how you draw these contradictory conclusions?

Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.

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some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;
....

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.
In our community, HODLers use non-custodial wallets more, while active traders use centralized exchanges' built-in wallets to save on sending fees.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on October 10, 2023, 03:57:40 PM
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.

Trading doesn't require a minimum amount of coins, there's no minimum amount as you can trade with any amount but if you're using an exchange that's when you'll have to deposit money based on their deposit minimum of that exchange to trade. You can trade P2P directly without an exchange and you won't need a minimum deposit. Neither trading or holding needs a minimum amount of coin but to make profits you have to decide which amount you'll use to trade because the higher the amount, the more opportunity to get more profits when trading. Both Hodling and trading are guaranteed ways of making profits from Bitcoin but holding holds more pros then cons and that's why we're advice to hodl. You're stressing yourself when you trade when you could have just hodl and make profits.

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With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Shitcoins are to be avoided by all means, they should neither be traded or HODL because they bring nothing but losses. If you're trading them, you have to be very careful because their prices are more volatile and they're been manipulated by whales for their gains. Only trade or hodl bitcoin and you won't find yourself as a victim of the different scams that are becoming a frequent news in the industry.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Rruchi man on October 10, 2023, 03:58:31 PM
Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin, some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading ...
This choice is also based on skill.

 If you are not skilled in trading, you have no business with choosing to trade when you can HODL. Taking that choice when you are well aware of the truth will only lead you to losses. Then for someone who is skilled in trading, choosing to HODL when you can trade and increase what you have will just mean that you are limiting yourself because you can be more profiting as a trader, than a HODLer.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Gozie51 on October 10, 2023, 04:14:28 PM

Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.


Not only long-term, I think short term too is hodling especially if you are not trading. It is the intention that determines .


While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;


P2P also exist. Arbitrage also exist. Not only if you are involved in active trading to be regarded as such.

2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin.


I don't think so because you can buy altcoins or stable coins if you want and do whatever you want and convert back to btc. So you must not have access to btc for it.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: OgNasty on October 10, 2023, 04:20:21 PM
Obviously holders have a long time preference and traders are trying to get rich quick. The crazy thing is that even knowing Bitcoin is the greatest performing asset in human history, people still want to trade it instead of holding it. Even with all the billionaires holding has created and all the people who lost everything trading, people still think they’re going to trade themselves to wealth, missing out on doing so by not holding.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on October 10, 2023, 04:32:40 PM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

Nevertheless, despite these similarities hodling and trading are also distinct this is due to the fact that hodling is usually long termed ( hodling appreciates better during long term.) however trading returns come from short term fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin,some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

3. Long-Term  Gains ;Over time Bitcoin  has shown promising potential in it's price.Hodling  helps you benefit from the long term potential of Which in most cases appreciates better than little price gains from trading.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
 
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁

As a bitcoin enthusiast, I will go for Holding,  because I'm less experienced when it comes to trading. before you start trading you must understand the market forces, you must also understand the fact that the market is very volatile and for somebody that is not well groomed or that doesn't really have a good experience in trading, he/she will find difficulty in navigating through the crypto market, especially for a beginner. Though there are lots benefits with trading, especially when you've gathered a good knowledge about the market, and you know how to control your losses, there are good number of people that will tell you, they prefer trading than Holding. Both of them have their advantages depending on which Side of the divide you find yourself.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: pinggoki on October 10, 2023, 04:37:53 PM
Always best to hodl because bitcoin is still very volatile & you can easily get liquidated trying to trade & time the market. Nobody who has managed to hodl for two full four year cycles has ever lost money. It’s boring & most people don’t have the staying power, patience required but seriously hodling long term is the way to go, it never fails. Trading is gambling & many times you are not a lucky winner.
It still depends, if you're the type to have a little risk in your life then you can always consider trading as a means to utilize your bitcoins, some people that lose their patience hodling would've probably fared better if they've tried their hands on trading instead of just idly waiting for the prices to skyrocket but you're right, hodling never fails but I have to advice that while hodling you should also have other means to make money like a job or business and then slowly buy bitcoin to increase what you're hodling.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Lorence.xD on October 10, 2023, 04:42:42 PM
For me I still prefer to do holding despite knowing how to trade, since it's more riskier to do trading as you can get liquidated in just seconds, but in the other hand you could also profit quickly. Which I think it's not suitable for me, I would rather do hodling with the DCA method since I'm not the type of person that would analyze and always check the market cause it will drain me. Imagine working,studying and trading, it will literally affect your mental health as well your physical health. Maybe full time trading will be applicable as you can focus on the market.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: TheUltraElite on October 10, 2023, 04:51:15 PM
Hodling is a part of trading, so how are you comparing these two terms?

Hodl does not necessarily mean to never sell, even though thats is exactly what many users end up doing. It is a way to tide over bear markets and wait till they reach a target price to sell.

If you compare hodl to long term trade then it makes sense and trading essentially would mean day trading. Investing also is a long term trade and can be said to be similar to hodl.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: kingvirtus09 on October 10, 2023, 05:08:34 PM
Literally speaking, it's safer to do holding than trading, because in trading, if you don't have enough knowledge, you can quickly lose the capital you bought with Bitcoin or crypto.

Unlike holdings, you just choose the cryptocurrency you will invest in as long as you make sure you know that you will not lose; instead, you will have income when the bull run comes or the halving is coming. For sure, there is, and you will get a profit from your investment in Bitcoin or crypto here in this business field.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on October 10, 2023, 05:17:31 PM
Obviously holders have a long time preference and traders are trying to get rich quick. The crazy thing is that even knowing Bitcoin is the greatest performing asset in human history, people still want to trade it instead of holding it. Even with all the billionaires holding has created and all the people who lost everything trading, people still think they’re going to trade themselves to wealth, missing out on doing so by not holding.
Holding is basically buy and sell where time is a core factor, while in trading it is more on analysis of when to buy and sell, less duration compared to holding. But I'd like to address the term used ' get rich quick ' I guess it is not the goal of the every trader, so let us not generalize it, most of traders do want to have continuous win or constant profit, no one wants to lose right? Holders are huge part of the market tanking every bear and holding the floor price of cryptocurrencies as well as the market capitalization. I don't argue of what's better, holding or trading, but do what suits you  best. If you are active with crypto market then trading might work for you, hold otherwise.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Gozie51 on October 10, 2023, 05:21:49 PM
For me I still prefer to do holding despite knowing how to trade, since it's more riskier to do trading as you can get liquidated in just seconds, but in the other hand you could also profit quickly. Which I think it's not suitable for me, I would rather do hodling with the DCA method since I'm not the type of person that would analyze and always check the market cause it will drain me. Imagine working,studying and trading, it will literally affect your mental health as well your physical health. Maybe full time trading will be applicable as you can focus on the market.

It is really such a difficult exercise with trading. Your analysis of the whole challenge of the struggle to get a life is funny but seriously that is what it is. Sometimes it seems like 24 hours in a day isn't enough to achieve all you want to do . However, properly planning of time will get you to achieve alot that you want to do. Yes being a student and having time to study can't really allow you to get some other things done. So hodling is more preferred too , the risk of trading is high.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on October 10, 2023, 05:23:01 PM
1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
I can not agree with you on this, because in trading we might be using some custodial wallet like of centralized exchange i.e Binance or Coinbase but in holding we can use custodial but the most and the best practice is to use noncustodial and the 2nd level best practice is to use cold wallet instead of hot one. I hope you understand this point.

With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁
Exactly, we should definitely not confuse with the holding benefits of BTC with ALts because I definitely will say Alts are not for holding purposes, because of their high volatility and dependence on the centralized authorities and the rug pull scams, etc. type shit scares me out. I only prefer everyone to do trade in Alts but not holding.

And dear OP, I appreciate your efforts, because most of the newbies and even old users of this forum are not aware that holding and trading are the two branches of the investment tree. Which should be considered as separate methods to make money. Because the strategies are different and of course the stress level too as you have aforementioned.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Asuspawer09 on October 10, 2023, 05:25:57 PM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

Nevertheless, despite these similarities hodling and trading are also distinct this is due to the fact that hodling is usually long termed ( hodling appreciates better during long term.) however trading returns come from short term fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin,some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

3. Long-Term  Gains ;Over time Bitcoin  has shown promising potential in it's price.Hodling  helps you benefit from the long term potential of Which in most cases appreciates better than little price gains from trading.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
 
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁

It was pretty much similar since you going to trade first if you are planning to Hold your cryptocurrency, I mean most investors would look at trading as something like daily trading, so if you say that you are trading we could assume that you do it a lot like buying and selling cryptocurrency then just selling it for a short period of time, and we could use holding as something like investing as well same on trading but more of a long term thing since if your not going to hold you could just say that you are trading if your planning for a long term investment you could say that you are holding or HODL something like that.

Both terms are great, but I still would prefer Holding over trading daily, I suppose we can put it that way since if we do the term with only "trading" that just means buying and sell crypto, and it just different things with holding, I mean yes you could probably earn more if you do daily trading and you could as well earn easily in just a small amount of time compared to holding where you need to actually wait for months or even years to actually make a good profit on cryptocurrency, but Holding still has less risk than doing daily trading and you could assume a much guarantee profit.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Hamza2424 on October 10, 2023, 06:49:17 PM
Holding is the investor's approach and trading is the market professionalises approach, as simple as it is. Newbies are always recommended to enter the market with a holding approach and learn about the market momentum and spend some time learning about trading skills, and exercise strategies after that trader is more powerful than an investor as he can rely on better decision-making strategies to gain higher returns.

What makes both different is their view of understanding the market, an investor or holder takes the cyclical behavior of the market and its fundamental analysis at the same time a trader is a time market analyst he examines the sentiments of the market and patterns, on-chain data, etc. A trader is emotionally more strong and patient as compared to a holder. It varies from person to person as well.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: bitzizzix on October 10, 2023, 07:17:00 PM
Yes, usually there are two types of investors' goals, namely those who trade Bitcoin or crypto regularly to make a profit, or those who buy and hold it or what is called holding until they reach maximum profit and sell it.
Both are mutually beneficial, and supported by expertise.
And trading is not an easy job because it requires full or part time to do it and requires a lot of time and energy for in-depth analysis which in my opinion must be done seriously. And trading is more suitable for those who have a lot of time, or only have trading activities that are carried out seriously in order to generate profits.

And I personally choose holding, because I don't have much time for trading and also don't have the interest to learn it. Additionally, holding is the easiest way for me who has a job to stay focused on my work and let my investments grow to their highest prices.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: BitDane on October 10, 2023, 07:35:12 PM
I can say for minimal risk, Hodling is better but for maximum profit, trading is way better.

As what is stated by @OP, holding is easy, there is no need to take advantage of the fluctuation and get burn due to a wrong decision but trading on the other side can give a person the maximum profit assuming majority of his trades are successful.

Holding will not increase our coins unless we accumulate through buying and needs more fund to make it come true.  While trading can grow our stash with just the original bought coins by taking advantage of the price fluctuation making our Bitcoin holdings grow in every successful trade.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: pixie85 on October 10, 2023, 07:55:16 PM
I always feel like trading is for people who don't really want bitcoin but fiat money. For most of them the goal is to get as much fiat as possible.

Trading is risking your coins to get a little bit more if your trade is good but since trading involves shorting I'd be very careful if I were you since most of the time bitcoin goes up and you can't really tell when that moment will happen again. Waiting in the sidelines because you're too scared to hold bitcoin is s stupid thing to do in my opinion just as using bitcoin like a tool to get more fiat money when it's so much more.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Quidat on October 10, 2023, 08:22:34 PM
Hodling is a part of trading, so how are you comparing these two terms?

Hodl does not necessarily mean to never sell, even though thats is exactly what many users end up doing. It is a way to tide over bear markets and wait till they reach a target price to sell.

If you compare hodl to long term trade then it makes sense and trading essentially would mean day trading. Investing also is a long term trade and can be said to be similar to hodl.
Correct! If we do speak about HODL then it would pertain about long term aspect on which its true that there would really be some various conditions if we do speak about hold because we do have that hold position since the market is still that bearish but doesnt mean that holding it until the bull run happen but rather it would really be sell out on the time that the price would really be showing or giving out at least with those % gains on which it is really that still involving trading as long it do really have that buy and selling kind of act in a short time. It did really just turn out that people would be having that different meanings about holding but in generalization then it isnt really that much of a difference in between two.

It do really just differs on how its been executed and how its been done. It doesnt matter though because everything would really be according on someones preference and decisions
towards its market position because we know that it isnt something that would really be similar into each other. Each trading or investment decision will really be that depending on you
and outcomes will really vary too.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Mpamaegbu on October 10, 2023, 08:36:39 PM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
Despite how you want to make a wall of difference between them, I like to see them as the same. They're the same in the sense that both end up as the other – you hodl a trade and you also sell a hedl trade. One can hold a Bitcoin trade longer than the person whose intention is to even hodl from the beginning. What most people consider to term it "hodling" is where they find the Bitcoin – in a non-custodial wallet or a custodial wallet; and that's a wrong premise.

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Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁
Nice advice you had there but your laughing emotion made it look unserious.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Silberman on October 10, 2023, 09:22:40 PM
For me I still prefer to do holding despite knowing how to trade, since it's more riskier to do trading as you can get liquidated in just seconds, but in the other hand you could also profit quickly. Which I think it's not suitable for me, I would rather do hodling with the DCA method since I'm not the type of person that would analyze and always check the market cause it will drain me. Imagine working,studying and trading, it will literally affect your mental health as well your physical health. Maybe full time trading will be applicable as you can focus on the market.
I am in the same position, I dedicated a great deal of time to try to learn how to trade and I can say with confidence I have the knowledge necessary to do it, however being a trader is way more difficult than just having the right skills, you need to watch the market for hours and even days before you get a single signal, but when it happens you need to take action as fast as possible, and to me this is simply too taxing, so I prefer to be a long term holder instead.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: BVeyron on October 10, 2023, 09:50:32 PM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

Nevertheless, despite these similarities hodling and trading are also distinct this is due to the fact that hodling is usually long termed ( hodling appreciates better during long term.) however trading returns come from short term fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin,some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

3. Long-Term  Gains ;Over time Bitcoin  has shown promising potential in it's price.Hodling  helps you benefit from the long term potential of Which in most cases appreciates better than little price gains from trading.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
 
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁

There are two main problems in cryptotrading. First of all, cryptotrading is quite risky, since altcoins are really unstable, and its nearly impossible to get some profit out of short-term deals in crypto, especially if the amount of money involved into trading is relatively small. Secondly, there is a problem with accounts: cryptotrading platforms store money on accounts, which dont belong to the traders, so the money safety is dependent on security facilities of the trading platform.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Raflesia on October 10, 2023, 09:55:45 PM
I think the context is not really appropriate because when we say trading, the comparison is definitely with Investment not with hodling because in the end when we say that we are investing then there will definitely be holding as a process.

On the other hand, when someone decides to invest then it is certain that they will hold their assets and will not trade because it is 2 different strategies so it will not be able to be done because when we trade then automatically our goal is not long-term investment and vice versa and I have that choice until now because I already have confidence about my investment in the next few years so I will definitely hold and become a hodler until my goal is achieved.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Ever-young on October 10, 2023, 10:13:21 PM
2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

Aside from the fee which one is being charged when they purchase bitcoin and the fee which they are also being charged when they withdraw to their place of buying down to their private wallet, holding bitcoin only costs your security like what you are to do in other to protect the bitcoin and make sure it’s safe until when you decide to sell it, so I can say they bitcoin don’t have any fee attached to when you are holding it in your wallet, instead you have an advantage of making profit from it when you want to sell it off if you hold it for a long period of time.

The only place a holder will have to spend fee for holding is if their is some kind of upgrade on which wallet the holder is using and want to use a different one which he feels like it’s more secured than the previous one, that’s one the person have to spend some fee in moving it out from the current wallet to another one, although the fee charge is always very small.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Peanutswar on October 10, 2023, 10:49:09 PM
Will depend on your being active in the market if yes making a profit on a daily basis is ideal doing scalping or even a day trade this still consider like a week to get a profit but still in the short term if not holding for a long term is the most suitable only yo need is to make an investment, hold until you satisfied with the market price and take profit.
Those trades still consider a basic understanding with the TA this serves as a guide to you with a good entry and exit.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Vaskiy on October 10, 2023, 11:13:00 PM
Holding and Trading are different, better the market understanding better will be the profiting and lower will be the risk. When the focus is holding, the focus should be long term profit. When we think about trading it is possible to make short term profits, but the risk used to be higher than holding as the profit is generated out of the difference in buying and selling in the volatile market. Rather than keeping funds idle for long term it is good to make it use into trading and increase the holding volume. There is risk, over time we'll have better learning about the market and the same can help with profiting.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: sheenshane on October 10, 2023, 11:24:31 PM
Holding and Trading are different, better the market understanding better will be the profiting and lower will be the risk. When the focus is holding, the focus should be long term profit. When we think about trading it is possible to make short term profits, but the risk used to be higher than holding as the profit is generated out of the difference in buying and selling in the volatile market. Rather than keeping funds idle for long term it is good to make it use into trading and increase the holding volume. There is risk, over time we'll have better learning about the market and the same can help with profiting.
I'd say, that both trading and holding aren't meant for everyone.
Why?  Because if you know trading and can do technical and fundamental analysis then go for trading but if you have zero knowledge in trading or skills, it could be holding would be your great option.

Yeah, both have risks but they have different result of outcome, while holding, you can control the risk and trading aren't.
IMO, I'd rather hold for a long term and wait for a perfect time than risking it that possibly losing all your money.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: bayu7adi on October 11, 2023, 03:18:45 AM
As someone who prefers HODLing over daily trading, I see no inherent flaw in either approach. Whether for the long term or the short term, engaging with Bitcoin trading offers distinct opportunities.

The key differentiator lies in the level of experience required for trading. Day traders must possess the skill to analyze the market at all times. Every fluctuation in Bitcoin's price can translate into significant gains in the near future. However, the more frequent the trading, the more frequently a trader encounters associated risks. This aspect is not particularly appealing to me, as I haven't yet honed my ability to comprehend short-term market movements.

HODLing, on the other hand, necessitates a Dollar-Cost Averaging (DCA) approach to purchases, holding the asset until your target is met. Volatility can work in your favor by expediting your objectives if the price tends to rise. Fundamental analysis holds substantial influence over the end results, given that we're discussing long-term trading. Technical analysis appears less reliable for scrutiny, as it can be manipulated by influential market players.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: YUriy1991 on October 11, 2023, 04:16:00 AM
Hodling vs trading is indeed a menu that traders must choose. If we see the market volatility conditions are wavy, it is quite difficult to calculate this, however, if there is a sufficient opportunity to increase profits, especially if seen as long as the price difference is large enough to generate profits, the most dominant trading pattern will be used. When talking about Shitcoins, it's better not to approach it too much because there are many things that influence the trading of these and other tokens on their prices.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Xampeuu on October 11, 2023, 04:33:56 AM
Currently I am focusing more on holding than trading, although I am also not abandoning trading activities for my future. I think holding is easier than trading where the risk will be greater. what we need to know is that trading is not a quick way to make money, if we make the mistake of not having the knowledge and experience, what will happen is that our capital could run out, Therefore, slowly learn trading until you can master the science of trading


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Arenga pinnata on October 11, 2023, 04:53:26 AM
I personally choose to be a Hodler for Bitcoin. Because once I tried to trade the Bitcoins that I had and it made me feel tired. Because the profits from trading Bitcoin are not too big because the price fluctuations are not too high. This is different from altcoins where the fluctuations are higher. So trading in Altcoins is more profitable but the risks are also much higher.

So I finally decided to stop my trading in bitcoin and just focus on accumulating it for the long term. And I'm also not yet proficient in crypto trading. So I'm worried that my bitcoin holdings will actually decrease due to losses if I'm not yet skilled at trading. So I focused more on being a Hodler this time.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Out of mind on October 11, 2023, 05:34:29 AM
Trading requires special knowledge about the market, it is not possible to make a profit if you are not able to analyze the market. That's why you have to know about the market first, and then you have to trade, although it is possible to make a lot of profit in trading, but without experience, it is not possible to make a profit. Also, many times it is seen that most of the risks are hidden in trading, so I think trading is not profitable for everyone. But if a successful person trades then surely he is well experienced and wise to make profit. Moreover, holding is less risky than trading, so holding would be a better move. I think when a person can't get a good experience with the market he should definitely hold because it has less risk. And if you invest and hold, surely you can expect good profit in the future, in that case I think holding is better. When training in the market, there is often a fear of losing most of the money, but in the case of holding, this fear is much less and his kind of fear is less.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: hZti on October 11, 2023, 05:35:39 AM
It is probably always better for the long term to not trade and hold your bitcoin. The reason is that Bitcoin is in the bullmarket mostly volatile to the upside, so there is a big chance to get left behind and have to buy in with a higher price.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: naira on October 11, 2023, 05:48:37 AM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
It would be very strange if these two concepts were debated. Both Hold and Trade have their own purposes, the only difference is the time period and purpose of use. Trading this term clearly describes activity at various times, most likely daily, whereas for Hold Bitcoin we will not bother discussing any type of statistics at any time. As investors, they determine their investment targets, either every month or every week, even every day if their finances are truly stable and they have a good investment method such as DCA.

Personally, I choose to Hold, because as I said, I don't want to spend time monitoring price movements and the fud that is out there. Traders also more often or prefer to trade assets other than Bitcoin and if they make a profit they will return to accumulating Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Dr.Osh on October 11, 2023, 06:04:49 AM
Basically, holding and trading have clear differences in nature. Holding is an asset that you store in a wallet or safe place that you own for a certain period of time. Meanwhile, trading is a buying and selling transaction that you carry out within a short period of time.
However, the nature of holding is holding for a certain period of time, while the nature of trading is buying and selling. Holding can change its nature to trading when you have bought and sold. Even though there are many similarities, this is a matter of the nature of the words they have and also how you treat your assets.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: _Hiloveua_ on October 11, 2023, 06:10:10 AM
Hodling vs trading is indeed a menu that traders must choose. If we see the market volatility conditions are wavy, it is quite difficult to calculate this, however, if there is a sufficient opportunity to increase profits, especially if seen as long as the price difference is large enough to generate profits, the most dominant trading pattern will be used. When talking about Shitcoins, it's better not to approach it too much because there are many things that influence the trading of these and other tokens on their prices.

The reason why you shouldn't choose between trading and holding is when you move towards either one. Then you must be at a loss. No matter what the market is like if you keep trading and holding then you will never lose or lose. If you are not experienced in trading then it is not possible for you to earn much profit. But if you buy a coin and hold it for a long time then you can earn a good amount because holding is completely without experience. If you want to trade then you have to base on the market. And so the risk in trading is very high.So I prefer trading and holding.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Ojima-ojo on October 11, 2023, 06:13:37 AM
I cant go through the stress and risk of trading my bitcoin in whatever manner and as long as trading profits is almost same with gambling winnig which depends on luck alot of time, that make trading to become too risky for bitcoin amd other crypto coun investors, most especially the newbies who may not really know the basic and professional techniques that lead to making right trading decisions.

So to avoid such potential risk, you as an investor should only hold in your wallet and have your private keys properly saved in a secured location out of the reach of any third-party access.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: mehmetosman89 on October 11, 2023, 07:00:05 AM
Currently I am focusing more on holding than trading, although I am also not abandoning trading activities for my future. I think holding is easier than trading where the risk will be greater. what we need to know is that trading is not a quick way to make money, if we make the mistake of not having the knowledge and experience, what will happen is that our capital could run out, Therefore, slowly learn trading until you can master the science of trading

I also agree more with what you said, because currently I don't really understand any trading knowledge in the crypto space so I also prefer holding cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin by continuing to buy them with the money I set aside every month. So for the time being I will continue to do this as long as I still have the ability without experiencing excessive difficulties due to the holding that I do, and on the one hand I am also starting to find a little information from people around me that buying Bitcoin at this time is A very good decision so that I continue to be enthusiastic about running the holding while learning about trading, which I have not mastered at all at this time.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: lombok on October 11, 2023, 10:04:19 AM
Trading and Holding both have risks. However, compared to trading, holding for me is very simple and I don't need to do analysis every day. I only carry out technical and fundamental analysis when I want to make purchases and sales, and even then I execute limit orders without buying and selling immediately. As long as I hold Bitcoin, pressure and stress are also under control. It's different when trading, emotions, pressure and stress always peak and have an impact on trading.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Japinat on October 11, 2023, 10:25:47 AM
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With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.


Some might be got into that situation but have learned already and besides, nobody will be able to hold for nothing.
Some people will choose to hold crypto rather than get into trading because they know themselves that they are not fit to trade. Of course, there is no reason to do that either if we know that we just lose while holding gives us of what we aim for. Well, holding is the best option I see...less risk, less possible chances of losing but most of all, we have a big chance to earn more.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: bitnote on October 11, 2023, 11:56:05 AM
Holding have low risk of losing money quickly while in trading with leverage we can lose all of our money in a short period of time, Both do not guarantee profit.
holding requires low effort and low knowledge about market while trading is more complex and requires more discipline and emotional control. What if we typed wrong order amount in trading once?
we can empty our account with just one click.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: fuguebtc on October 11, 2023, 12:57:08 PM
It is probably always better for the long term to not trade and hold your bitcoin. The reason is that Bitcoin is in the bullmarket mostly volatile to the upside, so there is a big chance to get left behind and have to buy in with a higher price.

If you are a day trader, does it really matter whether the price is high or low? I think the important thing in trading is to analyze and make predictions to make profits, so whether the price increases or decreases more will not affect your profits. Only holders will really miss the opportunity if they think that short-term trading will be able to make a profit or increase the number of bitcoins. Not everyone is a bitcoin holder and not everyone is a day trader.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: xzy887 on October 11, 2023, 01:25:03 PM
Like you, I find holding easier and risk free. But no one sees the biggest difference between holding and trading.
I know there are 2 types of trading and there you lose some money but you can get back some of your capital.
But if you buy a scam token and hold it, then wakes up in the morning and finds that the token is a scam and loss your money. Then you will have to lose your entire capital, which you will not be able to get back even in your lifetime.So it is important to research that token very well in case of your long holding.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: kryptqnick on October 11, 2023, 01:37:42 PM
Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

That's not exactly right. When people are hodling, they can easily use non-custodial wallets because they don't need to move their coins much anyway, but when they are trading, a centralized crypto exchange might be much more convenient for fast and regular buy/sell orders/ As for the minimum amount, I think many exchanges have very small deposit/withdrawal limits and something below that wouldn't make much sense with hodling either due to transaction fees.
But securing the funds is truly important in both cases. I'd also say that there's a risk of financial losses in both cases as well, if we're talking about the similarities.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on October 11, 2023, 01:51:52 PM
and for somebody that is not well groomed or that doesn't really have a good experience in trading, he/she will find difficulty in navigating through the crypto market, especially for a beginner.
Yes, that's why we always advocate Newbies not to trade due to the fact that they have little or no knowledge about how Bitcoin works, and as such prevent them from further losing their funds.

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there are good number of people that will tell you, they prefer trading than Holding. Both of them have their advantages depending on which Side of the divide you find yourself.
It all depends on an individual and his/her level information and exposure to Bitcoin, because just as trading requires a complex understanding of the asset, it's pattern of price movement and self discipline, hodling on the other hand requires just a basic ability just to buy, hodl coin in a safe and reliable avenue.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Wend on October 11, 2023, 01:56:08 PM
Like you, I find holding easier and risk free.

Holding is considered easier than trading but is not without risk. We all cannot know what will happen in the future so it is difficult to predict anything. For example, the future of bitcoin is still a question mark, what if we hold for the long term and one day the bitcoin disappears or the demand for bitcoin declines and the price never rises? Every investment has risk, we should not be subjective, especially new and volatile assets like bitcoin.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: retreat on October 11, 2023, 02:09:35 PM
Hodling and trading have their respective advantages and disadvantages and users can choose which one they think is more suitable for them. But for me personally, I prefer hodling compared to trading, because hodling doesn't require skills like trading - you just need to buy bitcoin and then hold it in your wallet and that's it. Meanwhile in trading you need good skills and analysis for entry and taking profit, which is not as easy as imagined and it doesn't suit me who doesn't want to be complicated.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Blitzboy on October 11, 2023, 02:58:59 PM
You've explored the hodling vs. trading debate, which is timeless. Hodling may seem like a more relaxed way to try your luck, but it requires discipline and patience. Like stating, "I believe in this, and I'll ride out the storms." But would the market have liquidity if everyone hodled? Would traders' beloved fluctuations exist?

As you noted, trading requires strategy, attention, and adaptation. You must catch short-term waves and hope you read them correctly. What if your timing's off? You may overlook hodlers' long-term gains. A balance, right? A patience-action dance. Some thrive in trading's fast pace, while others like hodling. Your rhythm?


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Crypto Library on October 11, 2023, 07:05:09 PM
In my own perspective, the thing will totally depend on the skill of the person which one he chooses as his option he will get a good profit in output.
I actually mean those who are good at technical analysis and have interest in short term trading. If they want short term trading what  you mean trading. Those who are beginners can check how they are performing in short term trading by investing themselves a little and if it turns out that their skills are good then they can do short term trading here. And I think besides short term trading he can do long term holding by doing dca management and making small investments regularly.So the fact is skill.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Dimitri94 on October 11, 2023, 07:39:39 PM
Currently I am focusing more on holding than trading, although I am also not abandoning trading activities for my future. I think holding is easier than trading where the risk will be greater. what we need to know is that trading is not a quick way to make money, if we make the mistake of not having the knowledge and experience, what will happen is that our capital could run out, Therefore, slowly learn trading until you can master the science of trading
Comparatively trading is much more difficult than holding. Risk is high in trading. A holder does not have to take much pressure in the case of long term holding but traders who are there often have to take decisions considering the market conditions. There is a possibility of losing more money if the market conditions suddenly deteriorate. But those who are holders can be free from such pressure. If held long term the market will recover for a period of time so a holder holds on even if the price falls and may profit at some point. A trader is involved in daily cash transactions whereas a holder only gets a chance to own large amount for long term. Holding can be a very good venture considering the current conditions and volatility.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Stedsm on October 11, 2023, 07:49:27 PM
Hodling is good only for those who have been holding their coins since early times, and are still holding for more. Those who bought at high are holding it due to the fact that they don't want to lose on their investment (retail investors) and other big investors also don't want to lose that huge percentage of their earnings at low price. Trading is best for those who understand the market and can time their trades carefully so that even if they lose, their loss isn't so big for them and they can continue playing with the market, trade more and earn more.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: allthebitandbobs on October 11, 2023, 07:50:17 PM
Holding was the important one in the trading,So the holding will come on the trading.So we no need to split the holding from the trading,holding was the essential feature of the trading.Some new trader will not use this option and loss their money by the panic selling.The trader should analysis the trading before using their real money into the trading,so the trader who ready to spend money for the trading analysis will earn huge in long run.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: xzy887 on October 12, 2023, 02:39:44 AM
Hodling and trading have their respective advantages and disadvantages and users can choose which one they think is more suitable for them. But for me personally, I prefer hodling compared to trading, because hodling doesn't require skills like trading - you just need to buy bitcoin and then hold it in your wallet and that's it. Meanwhile in trading you need good skills and analysis for entry and taking profit, which is not as easy as imagined and it doesn't suit me who doesn't want to be complicated.
Best wishes to you. But I would say, you should always opt for holding bitcoins. And if you are interested in holding any other currency, learn about it first, although many trusted currencies can also turn into scams. Because I myself have experienced this kind of fraud. Luna, FTX, how many other credible projects have turned into scams. Many people like you who had coin holdings here have committed suicide. So it is always better to choose Bitcoin as a holding. The risk here is low.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Suzume on October 12, 2023, 03:28:38 AM
holding vs trading The topic is very interesting. Because you are talking about 2 things here which are opposite to 2 at once.
 In my opinion, holding means those who want to increase their spending without any loss of money usually choose this way of holding. This is the way a to make money safely. People who are not at all interested in taking risk or they want to increase their money without losing their money choose this medium more.

Trading is a medium where investing money can earn a lot of money in a very short period of time. Just as the money can be increased very much in a short time, your earned money can be lost in a very short time. Most of the people who invest here have fun with money risk.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: MFahad on October 12, 2023, 03:30:56 AM
In my opinion holding of bitcoin plays an important role in one's economy as compared to trading. In holding you will must win because you will have maximum duration in which you can wait for further booming whereas in trading you will have minimum time in which either you will win or will loss all the amount at once.

Holding does not make you emotional while all the decisions in trading are depended on emotions which is worse element lead the users to unsuccessful conclusions. You can buy bitcoin and then leave it until you have profit but in trading you cannot leave without thinking about your asset because if you left it for a second then you will miss miss chance and your money will be lost so always choose holding if you desires for more profit.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Ayers on October 12, 2023, 03:54:38 AM
Hodling and trading have their respective advantages and disadvantages and users can choose which one they think is more suitable for them. But for me personally, I prefer hodling compared to trading, because hodling doesn't require skills like trading - you just need to buy bitcoin and then hold it in your wallet and that's it. Meanwhile in trading you need good skills and analysis for entry and taking profit, which is not as easy as imagined and it doesn't suit me who doesn't want to be complicated.
Best wishes to you. But I would say, you should always opt for holding bitcoins. And if you are interested in holding any other currency, learn about it first, although many trusted currencies can also turn into scams. Because I myself have experienced this kind of fraud. Luna, FTX, how many other credible projects have turned into scams. Many people like you who had coin holdings here have committed suicide. So it is always better to choose Bitcoin as a holding. The risk here is low.

When we talk about trading, it means we are interested in short term volatility so we can use any pair whether it is bitcoin or altcoin. But if we talk about long-term holding, I assert that only bitcoin is the best and only choice, we should stay away from all altcoins, even projects that people say are trustworthy.

To me, altcoins are for speculation and not a long-term trustworthy place because as you also mentioned. Leading projects like FTX or Luna with a capitalization of hundreds of billions of dollars also suddenly collapsed, so there is nothing for us to believe in the altcoin market.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Viscore on October 12, 2023, 04:17:58 AM
In my opinion holding of bitcoin plays an important role in one's economy as compared to trading. In holding you will must win because you will have maximum duration in which you can wait for further booming whereas in trading you will have minimum time in which either you will win or will loss all the amount at once.


I respectfully disagree with that viewpoint. Holding, in my opinion, doesn't contribute to the economy. If we want to see the economy improve, there should be a continuous circulation of funds, in this case, Bitcoin, as that's what would create demand.

In the first place, the primary purpose of creating Bitcoin is to have a decentralized transaction system, free from the watchful eyes of the government, allowing for anonymity. The concern is that if people hold onto Bitcoin, it can make Bitcoin highly volatile. Just imagine if a single person holds 20% of the total supply and decides to sell it all at once, it would undoubtedly create chaos in the market.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: jasonjm on October 12, 2023, 04:25:14 AM
Both holding and trading have their merits and demerits. Holding requires some knowledge and luck at the very start of an investment. Once the investment is done, you need to hold onto it for the long term to get a huge amount of profit. While in trading, knowledge as well as exceptional technical and analytical skills are required with a full-time focus. Trading is risky compared to holding and can only be done if you are an expert in the field.
 
In my opinion, holding is always better than trading as the current market conditions are not suitable for trading because of the volatility concerns. Bitcoin is always more profitable when you opt for holding compared to trading. In trading, you might end up liquidating all your assets just with a single market move.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: jeraldskie11 on October 12, 2023, 05:01:11 AM
In my opinion holding of bitcoin plays an important role in one's economy as compared to trading. In holding you will must win because you will have maximum duration in which you can wait for further booming whereas in trading you will have minimum time in which either you will win or will loss all the amount at once.


I respectfully disagree with that viewpoint. Holding, in my opinion, doesn't contribute to the economy. If we want to see the economy improve, there should be a continuous circulation of funds, in this case, Bitcoin, as that's what would create demand.

In the first place, the primary purpose of creating Bitcoin is to have a decentralized transaction system, free from the watchful eyes of the government, allowing for anonymity. The concern is that if people hold onto Bitcoin, it can make Bitcoin highly volatile. Just imagine if a single person holds 20% of the total supply and decides to sell it all at once, it would undoubtedly create chaos in the market.
I agree with you that holding will not help the economy because nothing good will happen if everyone just holds Bitcoin. However, we must keep in mind that Bitcoin investors sell their shares at different times. Aside from that, dealers will not trade in a volatile currency because they are aware of the a high risk. In this scenario, Bitcoin investors play an essential role in another way. That is why, in my opinion, holders and traders are important for the economy.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: bitterguy28 on October 12, 2023, 05:14:10 AM
this must not be go against each other because both are profiteering depend  in our choices and timing ,
some wanted to trade while some needs to hold.

Trading - Riskier but worth the effort once succeed.

HODL - safer,cheaper but needs long time to see your profit.


now decide for your own , depending on how you needed and how you wanted the product.

But me personally? I am into Holding because Am not a good trader as I mostly missed the opportunity so sell when the right time comes.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: legendbtc on October 12, 2023, 05:27:38 AM
In my opinion holding of bitcoin plays an important role in one's economy as compared to trading. In holding you will must win because you will have maximum duration in which you can wait for further booming whereas in trading you will have minimum time in which either you will win or will loss all the amount at once.


I respectfully disagree with that viewpoint. Holding, in my opinion, doesn't contribute to the economy. If we want to see the economy improve, there should be a continuous circulation of funds, in this case, Bitcoin, as that's what would create demand.

In the first place, the primary purpose of creating Bitcoin is to have a decentralized transaction system, free from the watchful eyes of the government, allowing for anonymity. The concern is that if people hold onto Bitcoin, it can make Bitcoin highly volatile. Just imagine if a single person holds 20% of the total supply and decides to sell it all at once, it would undoubtedly create chaos in the market.

As I understand it, he is only talking about a person's economy and not about a country's economy or the world.

What you say sounds good but are you using bitcoin as a means of payment, currency or are you also holding bitcoin with the expectation of earning high profits? Does bitcoin's original purpose still matter when most people consider it an asset rather than a currency? Furthermore, do you see any serious problem with bitcoin when people hold it instead of circulating it? Bitcoin is still growing stronger day by day without any concerns.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: posi on October 12, 2023, 10:42:33 AM
Both holding and trading have their merits and demerits. Holding requires some knowledge and luck at the very start of an investment. Once the investment is done, you need to hold onto it for the long term to get a huge amount of profit. While in trading, knowledge as well as exceptional technical and analytical skills are required with a full-time focus. Trading is risky compared to holding and can only be done if you are an expert in the field.
 
In my opinion, holding is always better than trading as the current market conditions are not suitable for trading because of the volatility concerns. Bitcoin is always more profitable when you opt for holding compared to trading. In trading, you might end up liquidating all your assets just with a single market move.

In my opinion, there is no one better than the other, the important thing is that we need to choose what suits us best. Just because we don't make a profit from trading, that doesn't mean others don't make a profit too. There are many people who are making very good profits from trading and they even consider it their main job although not too many people are doing it. The higher the risk, the higher the chance of profit, trading is very profitable if people really take advantage of it.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: cozytrade on October 12, 2023, 11:02:55 AM
Both holding and trading have their merits and demerits. Holding requires some knowledge and luck at the very start of an investment. Once the investment is done, you need to hold onto it for the long term to get a huge amount of profit. While in trading, knowledge as well as exceptional technical and analytical skills are required with a full-time focus. Trading is risky compared to holding and can only be done if you are an expert in the field.
 
In my opinion, holding is always better than trading as the current market conditions are not suitable for trading because of the volatility concerns. Bitcoin is always more profitable when you opt for holding compared to trading. In trading, you might end up liquidating all your assets just with a single market move.

In my opinion, there is no one better than the other, the important thing is that we need to choose what suits us best. Just because we don't make a profit from trading, that doesn't mean others don't make a profit too. There are many people who are making very good profits from trading and they even consider it their main job although not too many people are doing it. The higher the risk, the higher the chance of profit, trading is very profitable if people really take advantage of it.
It is very easy to profit from training but you need to understand trading well then start trading. If you go to trading without understanding about training then you will lose your money so I say whatever we do if we start training with some understanding our money will be safe and we will be safe.  Can do trading. To do trading we need to find some coins that can get a lot of profit and earn money by investing for a long time.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: lienfaye on October 12, 2023, 11:06:31 AM
Holding and trading are different strategy to gain, but both are profitable depending on how you deal with it. So we have a choice on what we think is suited for us to have a huge gain. Thus, if you can, it would be better to try both, so you got the chance to xperience its importance and advantages and can decide which is more beneficial.

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)
This is one of the reason why I chose to just hold my Bitcoin. It's less stress on my part unlike when I was still an active trader. Because in trading, it requires plenty of time to be able to monitor the market and of course the timing.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Cookdata on October 12, 2023, 11:33:08 AM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

Holding doesn't equate long term, I can hold a piece of bitcoin in my wallet because I want to use it for daily spending, like send from my wallet to another person when I purchase a product, I can keep the rest for spending the remaining days I want and not necessary for long term.

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1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

Trading and holding has a minimum amount you can buy depending on the exchange, most likely allow you buy as low as $10 and above.
Trading in this case depends on where you are doing it, if you are doing it on centralized exchanges, it's not as complicated like when you are securing your own wallet where you have access to your private keys and seed phrase, and not advice able to hold your coins on any exchange.

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Nevertheless, despite these similarities hodling and trading are also distinct this is due to the fact that hodling is usually long termed ( hodling appreciates better during long term.) however trading returns come from short term fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin,some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

3. Long-Term  Gains ;Over time Bitcoin  has shown promising potential in it's price.Hodling  helps you benefit from the long term potential of Which in most cases appreciates better than little price gains from trading.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
 
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁

Your first point is valid but need a little salt, just because you hold bitcoin doesn't mean you should not do research, find out other things that are happening around the ecosystem at your free time, these are fundamentals things that contribute to the growth of bitcoin.

Tip 2 is wrong. Cost of transactions on bitcoin depends on your wallet address, the number of inputs and ouput and the how busy the network is in that particular time.

Timing is important in your third tip, what you call long term is subjective also. If you have bought bitcoin last year around January, you will be sitted on a unrealised loss and what is the assurance that it will go to that place next year or upper year, it could go there and then fall due to fear, doubt and uncertainty but buying now in a low market will definitely give you some goody profits by next or 2.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: michellee on October 12, 2023, 11:45:09 AM
It is very easy to profit from training but you need to understand trading well then start trading. If you go to trading without understanding about training then you will lose your money so I say whatever we do if we start training with some understanding our money will be safe and we will be safe.  Can do trading. To do trading we need to find some coins that can get a lot of profit and earn money by investing for a long time.
That's because training and real trading are different. In trading, we use real money where when we experience a loss, we really lose, but as long as we don't sell the coins, we can still make a profit. But it also depends on the coin.

If you don't understand trading, you can buy and hold the coin until the price reaches your selling target price. And you should hold Bitcoin rather than altcoins for the long term. If you want to trade altcoins, it will be even more difficult because you have to find the right coin that can provide profits for you. And that includes if you want to hold altcoins as an investment.

So it all depends on your abilities and skills. If you want to learn about trading and have time to analyze the market, you can try trading. Otherwise, you can invest without having to trade.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 12, 2023, 11:49:16 AM

2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.

No argument though, but I don't think i need to own bitcoin to be able to trade bitcoin, people can trade bitcoin directly with fiat or even other cryptocurrencies, so for me, i do not see this point as a point at all.

But nevertheless, let me agree that hodling bitcoin is much more easier, and even more profitable than trading it, By hodling bitcoin for the long term, the risk of losing it due to market fluctuations is very minimal, or even non existent, compared to trading which opens the trader to a whole lots of risk like losing money due to market fluctuations, losing the bitcoins due to exchange getting hacked, losing bitcoin due to your hot wallet getting hacked, or even losing the bitcoins due to you getting scammed yourself.

Overall, I prefer to hold Bitcoin for the long term than trading it, even though i know that there are times we still have to trade in order to make some small gains, but we should never do this with funds or bitcoin we are hodling for the long term.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: yazher on October 12, 2023, 12:40:42 PM

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)


This is what most people do especially those who are saving some of their money from their salaries to buy some bitcoins every month to constantly adding to their investment and just putting it their waiting for the price to spike again like last time. This is the easiest investing strategy you could ever have given that you already know some basic knowledge to protect your bitcoins and how to keep them secured. This won't be a problem for those people because they haven't gone too far like others who sold their houses just to invest in bitcoins or take some huge loans just to join the hype, they won't be distressed by such and they still have their funds for their essential needs and savings.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: KiaKia on October 12, 2023, 12:53:35 PM
There is nothing wrong in holding and trading, and both is possible if you have the right skills, holding can be a mess if you are a bad trader and it can affect your holding, it's safer to choose one but it's possible to be in both.

You will make more money in holding than trading but people do like and prefer passive income so that they can live on it every day, but I don't believe much in passive income compared to long-term investment, I don't want to know how professional you are at trading, if you have invested in Bitcoin at $100 you will make biggest money today holding your bags, compare to trading, because with trading comes some risks, there will be wrong callings and you will lose money.

Buy Bitcoin and get a hardware wallet to store them, go back to your life and live on your normal salary, you will be a big fella in the future and many will question your source of income, because they don't just understand what you did while they are busy looking for fast money.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Tony116 on October 12, 2023, 01:15:49 PM


You will make more money in holding than trading but people do like and prefer passive income so that they can live on it every day, but I don't believe much in passive income compared to long-term investment, I don't want to know how professional you are at trading, if you have invested in Bitcoin at $100 you will make biggest money today holding your bags, compare to trading, because with trading comes some risks, there will be wrong callings and you will lose money.

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I also believe that holding will bring better returns than trading, but because people are so impatient, they turn to trading, especially futures trading. But most will get disastrous results, but the sadder thing is that many people still don't realize it, many people still rush into futures trading in the hope of making quick profits with huge leverage.

As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Bitcoinpoly on October 12, 2023, 02:28:09 PM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

Nevertheless, despite these similarities hodling and trading are also distinct this is due to the fact that hodling is usually long termed ( hodling appreciates better during long term.) however trading returns come from short term fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin,some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

3. Long-Term  Gains ;Over time Bitcoin  has shown promising potential in it's price.Hodling  helps you benefit from the long term potential of Which in most cases appreciates better than little price gains from trading.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
 
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁

Good piece. Anyways Hodling is okay as we all know, hodling can be liken to spot trading while the other trading you’re trying to talk about can be liken to futures trading.

You just have to be smart when it comes to trading because of the risk attached to it and as for the newbie I will suggest copy trading in order to copy trade from professionals so as to avoid running into loss, newbies can also opt in for the bot trading feature, it’s available on Bitget and other prominent exchanges.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: yudi09 on October 12, 2023, 03:18:41 PM
As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.
IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Blitzboy on October 12, 2023, 03:58:53 PM
There is nothing wrong in holding and trading, and both is possible if you have the right skills, holding can be a mess if you are a bad trader and it can affect your holding, it's safer to choose one but it's possible to be in both.

You will make more money in holding than trading but people do like and prefer passive income so that they can live on it every day, but I don't believe much in passive income compared to long-term investment, I don't want to know how professional you are at trading, if you have invested in Bitcoin at $100 you will make biggest money today holding your bags, compare to trading, because with trading comes some risks, there will be wrong callings and you will lose money.

Buy Bitcoin and get a hardware wallet to store them, go back to your life and live on your normal salary, you will be a big fella in the future and many will question your source of income, because they don't just understand what you did while they are busy looking for fast money.
Okay, lets not get too cocky. Holding has its benefits, and if you acquired Bitcoin around $100, you're good. Oh, come on! Not just buying and forgetting. Passion, believing in Bitcoin's future, and appreciating trading's exhilarating roller coaster are key. Some find trading's excitement and daily labor addictive. Its life

Dont believe in passive income? Fair enough. Some need that daily intake to survive. Remember that trading takes talent, intelligence, and a solid market pulse. I agree that holding has long-term benefits. The issue? Thinking one-size-fits-all. It doesnt. Everyone has a plan and trip.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: macson on October 12, 2023, 04:06:44 PM
Good piece. Anyways Hodling is okay as we all know, hodling can be liken to spot trading while the other trading you’re trying to talk about can be liken to futures trading.

You just have to be smart when it comes to trading because of the risk attached to it and as for the newbie I will suggest copy trading in order to copy trade from professionals so as to avoid running into loss, newbies can also opt in for the bot trading feature, it’s available on Bitget and other prominent exchanges.
Both holding and trading are each person's choice, but imo holding is more relaxing than trading, when discussing profits, the results of both can vary greatly. Anyway, you mentioned copy trading here, to be honest, i don't really recommend it because there are many things that you must fulfill in order to implement copy trading well, it would be much better if you studied hard and mastered trading itself rather than depending on copy-trading.

IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.
yep hodling or trading has different benefits and different people have different choices, people who understand trading will definitely choose trading which is much better than holding while people who really prefer calm prefer to be a holder rather than trading, that's all choices and results also cannot be equalized.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: ajiz138 on October 12, 2023, 05:32:43 PM
As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.
IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.
Holding is much better than trading will not get any pressure unless you are patient.
Trading is full of risks, you will use mental and mind in a trade even need a psychologist to see your thoughts that sometimes become stressful, emotional, greedy which in the end more loss than income.
So far focusing more on holding I will keep lamenting the market movement and see what happens while continuing to make purchases with the DCA method.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: gunhell16 on October 12, 2023, 10:39:10 PM
If you are thinking of the safest way for you to have future savings, holdings are appropriate here, and if you want to earn in the short term, daily trading is the right thing to do to carry out the activity you want to do in this field. .  Although they can give you the same help to get profit, you will only be better able to hone your trading skills because the experience is different from when you are just studying the crypto field industry in this business.

Although the level of risk is actually higher in trading compared to holdings, even though we know that it is not that easy to really understand, while you are also studying the trading or crypto space, you are simultaneously carrying out the trading activity compared to holdings, so you are just learning that nothing is actually happening in the market.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: livingfree on October 12, 2023, 10:49:01 PM
If you don't understand trading, you can buy and hold the coin until the price reaches your selling target price. And you should hold Bitcoin rather than altcoins for the long term. If you want to trade altcoins, it will be even more difficult because you have to find the right coin that can provide profits for you. And that includes if you want to hold altcoins as an investment.
For starters, this is the best option that they can have. If they want to reduce the risk of their investment, Bitcoin is the safest option for them to buy and hold.

Newbies have to understand that there's such risk when they come out and choose other altcoins but they should held themselves accountable for any result of it.

So it all depends on your abilities and skills. If you want to learn about trading and have time to analyze the market, you can try trading. Otherwise, you can invest without having to trade.
This is the good option for all of us, if we don't wanna trade, we can be investors and just switch to being a trader any time. But for someone who doesn't want to do that much effort and don't want to take a lot of pressure from the market, stay in investing.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Zoomic on October 12, 2023, 10:55:05 PM
1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)
Ease of holding is a good advantage of holding for long time. The stress of checking the charts always and checking the bitcoin price will not be on you. Not many people know how to read the chart and understand the price movements, so holding for a long time will surely save one the unnecessary stress.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
Yea, if someone is always sending coins forth and back, they will not be able to use effectively the cold wallets. But someone who is holding for a long term will not having the problems of checking the wallets which may expose the wallet to vulnerability.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Mr.right85 on October 12, 2023, 11:36:02 PM
As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.
IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.
While comparing the profit that could be generated from either of the aspects to bitcoin or an investment, trading is more profitable than we can say for holding but, it comes at the extent of a huge risk. Risk that could easily drain you of everything and so, you must be really good at trading to get its benefits in full.

Holing has almost zero risk but, you’ve got to ensure your not holding some shitty altcoin but one of real value if you must, an established coin and that be Bitcoin being the most reliable. It comes at a cost of having a good stretch of your patience.

The greater the risk, the bigger the rewards but, based on cases of inexperience,
Your better off holding without an experience than trading without any experience.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Bitcoin_people on October 13, 2023, 02:30:08 AM

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.

A wallet is the first thing a holder should always keep in mind before investing in Bitcoin. He can never hold bitcoins without a wallet, a wallet is needed to hold bitcoins. Moreover, a strong and secure wallet is most important if Bitcoins are to be stored and kept safe. Secure and strong wallets for Bitcoin are using hardware wallets like Electrum and Mycelium. Trading and holding requires either Bitcoin or Cryptocurrency otherwise it would never be possible to do either. First you need to have money then invest or trade in crypto currency. Coins are definitely required for trading, moreover, trading is not possible, that's why first of all you have to own the money, then trading and holding will be possible. Trading is basically a constant profit for many people, and those who are holding invest in Bitcoin and hold it for a long time in the hope of higher profits.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Arenga pinnata on October 13, 2023, 07:21:37 AM
If you are thinking of the safest way for you to have future savings, holdings are appropriate here, and if you want to earn in the short term, daily trading is the right thing to do to carry out the activity you want to do in this field. .  Although they can give you the same help to get profit, you will only be better able to hone your trading skills because the experience is different from when you are just studying the crypto field industry in this business.

Although the level of risk is actually higher in trading compared to holdings, even though we know that it is not that easy to really understand, while you are also studying the trading or crypto space, you are simultaneously carrying out the trading activity compared to holdings, so you are just learning that nothing is actually happening in the market.
It seems like everything has to be based on our own goal of making money. As you said, if we are preparing for the future then of course being a long-term holder could potentially make us have big profits in the future. But we also have to be prepared for the risks. But if we want to make money in a faster time frame then trading is the most possible. But learning crypto trading strategies is much more difficult than it seems. I personally studied it and didn't understand it properly until now. But after I made a lot of trades, I started to get used to reading market movements. Someone once said that experience is the best teacher. And I think that's true. Because I learned far more from some of my recent experiences in trading than I did reading from the many trading books that actually made me a little dizzy. And actually being a holder and being a trader can be done at the same time.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Tony116 on October 13, 2023, 07:29:17 AM
As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.
IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.
While comparing the profit that could be generated from either of the aspects to bitcoin or an investment, trading is more profitable than we can say for holding but, it comes at the extent of a huge risk. Risk that could easily drain you of everything and so, you must be really good at trading to get its benefits in full.

Holing has almost zero risk but, you’ve got to ensure your not holding some shitty altcoin but one of real value if you must, an established coin and that be Bitcoin being the most reliable. It comes at a cost of having a good stretch of your patience.

The greater the risk, the bigger the rewards but, based on cases of inexperience,
Your better off holding without an experience than trading without any experience.

In theory, it is true that trading not only produces quick profits but can also yield larger profits than holding, but in reality, most trading only results in losses due to the volatility of the market is unpredictable. To be able to make money from trading, of course, we need to be really good, it's easy to say, but has anyone done it? Is there anyone who is really good at trading and claims that they became rich through trading?  Honest, I haven't seen anyone do that.

I think if we do not have experience and knowledge, holding or trading will lead to losses, there will be no difference when we do not have knowledge and experience.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: hd49728 on October 13, 2023, 07:30:47 AM
It seems like everything has to be based on our own goal of making money. As you said, if we are preparing for the future then of course being a long-term holder could potentially make us have big profits in the future. But we also have to be prepared for the risks.
You can not hold your bitcoin if you don't store it in good wallets. Assume you store your coins on centralized exchanges, it's not like holding but you are speculating Bitcoin will pump tomorrow, any time and you want to be always ready for selling it after a few seconds. However, the risk to store coins in online accounts is very big and if you can wait like 10 to 20 minutes, for 1 or 2 confirmations of a deposit, you will be safer by storing your bitcoins in your wallet.

It does not need to store your coins on centralized exchanges some months just to save a few minutes of waiting. Convenience is not actually big but risk is huge.

Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5421039.0)


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Kelvinid on October 13, 2023, 07:45:26 AM
As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.
IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.
We can never see traders become rich from Bitcoin trading because they are not using this in the first place, they use altcoins instead.
Well, we can say that holding Bitcoin always wins from many sides but if we talk about altcoins, that seems impossible. The results from holding and trading vary from the coins we use. Some coins are good for trading like highly volatile coins but in terms of holding long-term, Bitcoin is the best choice. And aside from that, it also depends on your strategies and the way you manage your investment or trades in a critical situation.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: SeriouslyGiveaway on October 13, 2023, 08:20:53 AM
- I think Holding and Trading also depend on whether you have the money to spare or not. It's about what level of profit you want to achieve in the future and how quickly.
- Many people initially decide to be holders, but when the market becomes too volatile, they end up selling and becoming traders. The boundary between Holding and Trading is indeed fragile if your emotions are easily swayed.
- For me, I separate it into two distinct accounts: one for holding that I never touch, and one for trading. They are completely separate.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: hollowdoor on October 13, 2023, 09:27:12 AM
Im newbie in bitcointalk but i have little bit knowledge in trading although i trade from last 2years.
In my point of view holding is best for new user who
wants to trade.after gather enough knowledge then start trading in small step.
Keep focus and stay calm even trade goes to loss.
Never take quick discission.
And more important thing should not trade
any coin without research.
I think safety first.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: yudi09 on October 13, 2023, 11:49:18 AM
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Holding is much better than trading will not get any pressure unless you are patient.
Bitcoin is the best choice to hold by people who have patience and is not suitable as a trading option.

Trading is full of risks, you will use mental and mind in a trade even need a psychologist to see your thoughts that sometimes become stressful, emotional, greedy which in the end more loss than income.
It takes a lot of time to monitor market price movements apart from all the existing reasons. For me, monitoring market movements at all times is boring. Many large investors choose to hold bitcoin for a long period of time and do not pay attention to market conditions at all times as is required by people who choose to trade bitcoin.

So far focusing more on holding I will keep lamenting the market movement and see what happens while continuing to make purchases with the DCA method.
For me it was the right choice in expecting profits and applying the DCA method to every purchase. IMO, the DCA method is still very relevant.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Silberman on October 13, 2023, 10:00:39 PM
- I think Holding and Trading also depend on whether you have the money to spare or not. It's about what level of profit you want to achieve in the future and how quickly.
- Many people initially decide to be holders, but when the market becomes too volatile, they end up selling and becoming traders. The boundary between Holding and Trading is indeed fragile if your emotions are easily swayed.
- For me, I separate it into two distinct accounts: one for holding that I never touch, and one for trading. They are completely separate.

That is without a doubt an approach that you can take with the markets, but either one of those disciplines is already hard enough, to be able to perform both of them at the same time and to avoid making mistakes is probably beyond what most of the market participants can do, so they are forced to choose one of those options, and for someone like that it is better that at first they elect to become long term holders as it is the option with the smallest amount of risk and it is the easiest to perform out of the two as well.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Lorence.xD on October 13, 2023, 10:14:41 PM
- I think Holding and Trading also depend on whether you have the money to spare or not. It's about what level of profit you want to achieve in the future and how quickly.
- Many people initially decide to be holders, but when the market becomes too volatile, they end up selling and becoming traders. The boundary between Holding and Trading is indeed fragile if your emotions are easily swayed.
- For me, I separate it into two distinct accounts: one for holding that I never touch, and one for trading. They are completely separate.

That is without a doubt an approach that you can take with the markets, but either one of those disciplines is already hard enough, to be able to perform both of them at the same time and to avoid making mistakes is probably beyond what most of the market participants can do, so they are forced to choose one of those options, and for someone like that it is better that at first they elect to become long term holders as it is the option with the smallest amount of risk and it is the easiest to perform out of the two as well.

These are actually options you can take to do with your money for expecting a profit, but it's still depends on your knowledge between investing long term or doing trading. If you don't have goals with your investment, like for a long term selling price or once you achieve your selling price early, then you wouldn't noticed that you are already doing both. This still depends on the money spare of a person. For example, his salary are enough to provide all his needs like the bills, foods, shelter and etc. So the person can only do with that situation is probably DCAing. Probably it would be a holding method for investment.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: panganib999 on October 13, 2023, 10:25:18 PM
I think Hodling is the best way As it the horse of long race and can give desired profit according to your goals on the other hand, Trading is the risky part where you can loose and gain as well Like for that you have to look at market sentiments all the time and Have to jump in the mud like you need to do DYOR sometime you fell prey of FOMO. Due to that you have to take your decisions in hurry or being emotional. You have to Do TA and FA. while in hodl you need not to take that much stress.

I had alot of conversation over hodling in this given thread where alot of seniors share their thoughts and experiences in this thread over it must read..........>>>>Buy the DIP, and HODL! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132720.msg62887083#msg62887083.html)
There's pros and cons to it. Holding bitcoins is inarguably the easiest way you can earn money in the industry. You could literally invest your money today, sleep until the bull run comes, and you're sure to gain profits no matter what. Although the risks that entails this situation is something that investors must also take precaution in.

on the other hand trading has its perks, day trading in particular gives you immediate results in capital gains, holding takes more time to process and when it does it's not always guaranteed to be high, just as proportionate as to how much you're willing to put in. Trading could give you exponential profits but it comes with the heightened risks and propensity for losses.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Baki202 on October 15, 2023, 08:10:58 PM
Between holding and trading with Bitcoin, holding is always the best. Because holding is always less risky than trading. Trading at this time is very risky because the Bitcoin market is very volatile right now. If you're patient, you're holding on to Bitcoin for the long term. This allows you to earn more money by taking less risk.
holding is the best to avoid the risk of losing your money while trading and the only way you can lose your money is when the price is coming down that is if you are holding and you will still make your money back when the price comes back, because with what is happening in the market now it is not favorable to trade so there is a choice you want to trade you trade if you want to hold you hold.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Bitcoinpoly on November 22, 2023, 02:03:27 PM
Now explain to me how you draw these contradictory conclusions?

Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.

....

some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;
....

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.
In our community, HODLers use non-custodial wallets more, while active traders use centralized exchanges' built-in wallets to save on sending fees.

That’s true, I noticed people who buy hold for long period of time uses cold wallet. As for traders it’s better to use exchanges with low charges like Bitget to enjoy smooth trading.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: YUriy1991 on November 22, 2023, 02:32:43 PM
IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.

Right on target. Yes. long-term trading/Holding always wins in the end where someone only makes transactions twice if the capital is large, first when buying and once again when selling at a minimum without having to busy themselves with the frenetic market and why people often say that, they have proven it before, it's just us whenever you want to do it and feel it.
     


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Z_MBFM on November 22, 2023, 02:35:22 PM
Between holding and trading with Bitcoin, holding is always the best. Because holding is always less risky than trading. Trading at this time is very risky because the Bitcoin market is very volatile right now. If you're patient, you're holding on to Bitcoin for the long term. This allows you to earn more money by taking less risk.
holding is the best to avoid the risk of losing your money while trading and the only way you can lose your money is when the price is coming down that is if you are holding and you will still make your money back when the price comes back, because with what is happening in the market now it is not favorable to trade so there is a choice you want to trade you trade if you want to hold you hold.
There is no loss in holding because the price of Bitcoins falls below the value of the investment but it recovers again. But this requires patience. If you patiently hold for long term, you will definitely get profit from there. However, this patience is not shared by everyone and failure to hold long-term results in a bad experience with Bitcoin. And those who can hold it successfully are sure to profit.

Now explain to me how you draw these contradictory conclusions?

Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.

....

some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;
....

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.
In our community, HODLers use non-custodial wallets more, while active traders use centralized exchanges' built-in wallets to save on sending fees.

That’s true, I noticed people who buy hold for long period of time uses cold wallet. As for traders it’s better to use exchanges with low charges like Bitget to enjoy smooth trading.
A person who trades regularly and has no plans to hold should use a centralized exchange to trade smoothly. And if one intends to hold then a good Decentralized wallet should be used to hold long term Bitcoins. in this case Electrum Bitcoin Wallet is more comfortable to use and secure.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: coinerer on November 22, 2023, 02:58:41 PM
Between holding and trading with Bitcoin, holding is always the best. Because holding is always less risky than trading. Trading at this time is very risky because the Bitcoin market is very volatile right now. If you're patient, you're holding on to Bitcoin for the long term. This allows you to earn more money by taking less risk.
holding is the best to avoid the risk of losing your money while trading and the only way you can lose your money is when the price is coming down that is if you are holding and you will still make your money back when the price comes back, because with what is happening in the market now it is not favorable to trade so there is a choice you want to trade you trade if you want to hold you hold.
There is no loss in holding because the price of Bitcoins falls below the value of the investment but it recovers again. But this requires patience. If you patiently hold for long term, you will definitely get profit from there. However, this patience is not shared by everyone and failure to hold long-term results in a bad experience with Bitcoin. And those who can hold it successfully are sure to profit.
There are also losses in holdings if one holds altcoins without holding bitcoins. Because it can be said that Bitcoin will never be a scam but altcoins are constantly being scammed. So if one wants to hold for long term then Bitcoin is better. and  holds Bitcoin long term they definitely profit but they have to have a target to hold Bitcoin until they reach their desired profit. A long-term hold does not mean a fixed period of time like a month, two months or a year. A long-term hold means folding until the target is crossed.  So if one does not reach his desired profit even after holding for six months or one year then one should not panic then it cannot be called a long term hold either.

Now explain to me how you draw these contradictory conclusions?

Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.

....

some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;
....

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.
In our community, HODLers use non-custodial wallets more, while active traders use centralized exchanges' built-in wallets to save on sending fees.

That’s true, I noticed people who buy hold for long period of time uses cold wallet. As for traders it’s better to use exchanges with low charges like Bitget to enjoy smooth trading.
A person who trades regularly and has no plans to hold should use a centralized exchange to trade smoothly. And if one intends to hold then a good Decentralized wallet should be used to hold long term Bitcoins. in this case Electrum Bitcoin Wallet is more comfortable to use and secure.
I agree with you that a centralized exchange is applicable for trading because DEX charges extra fees because there are multiple block transactions. But I think it is wise to hold long term without trading. Because in this case, you only have to buy Bitcoin and keep it in a secure wallet, and in the case of trading, you have to do market analysis all the time, due to which no time can be given for any other work.  Cannot find multiple internet sources. And there is high risk in trading


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: rojan on November 22, 2023, 03:36:50 PM
I agree with you that a centralized exchange is applicable for trading because DEX charges extra fees because there are multiple block transactions. But I think it is wise to hold long term without trading. Because in this case, you only have to buy Bitcoin and keep it in a secure wallet, and in the case of trading, you have to do market analysis all the time, due to which no time can be given for any other work.  Cannot find multiple internet sources. And there is high risk in trading

I prefer to invest for long term than trading. Because if you keep investing for long term of trading it has good profit potential. And the risk of loss is less but daily profit from trading is more risky for me.  I don't like trading very much. Earlier I lost a lot of money while trading several times. Because of which now I try to stay away from trading. But it is very good to invest for long term.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: GbitG on November 22, 2023, 11:01:06 PM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different?
In the cryptocurrency industry, no one is responsible for others. Whether it is loss or profit, everyone is responsible for their own assets. So I think we can only advise for educational purposes which is better, hodling or trading. People have different teachings and oppositions on this topic, but to the extent that I have listened to the top analyst in this thread, and also he has advised me to hodle as compared to trading. So it means to say that the hodling strategy is an easy and simple strategy that every newbie can do easily, in which you don't have to put much effort into something like trading; just buy a simple coin and put it in the hardware wallet and hodl.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: gabbie2010 on November 22, 2023, 11:38:09 PM
Between holding and trading with Bitcoin, holding is always the best. Because holding is always less risky than trading. Trading at this time is very risky because the Bitcoin market is very volatile right now. If you're patient, you're holding on to Bitcoin for the long term. This allows you to earn more money by taking less risk.
holding is the best to avoid the risk of losing your money while trading and the only way you can lose your money is when the price is coming down that is if you are holding and you will still make your money back when the price comes back, because with what is happening in the market now it is not favorable to trade so there is a choice you want to trade you trade if you want to hold you hold.
Truly hodling is the best bet for a newbie however with regards to trading, a trader can earn profit regardless of market sentiment whether bullish or bearish sentiment there is always opportunity for traders to earn some decent profits however hodlers  would have to persevere and remain patient and avoid dumping their coin whenever the market is bearish runs until the market reverse back to bullish sentiment, personally I think experience traders earn decent profits compare to hodlers who would have  to adopt a long term perspective before earning some decent profits


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: TelolettOm on November 23, 2023, 12:00:04 AM
There's pros and cons to it. Holding bitcoins is inarguably the easiest way you can earn money in the industry. You could literally invest your money today, sleep until the bull run comes, and you're sure to gain profits no matter what. Although the risks that entails this situation is something that investors must also take precaution in.
Everything definitely has pros and cons. And how effective the pros or cons are will also depend on each individual in preparing and doing it. because, we can see on the one hand, there are many people who choose trading because they feel that it is really worth doing. And this also depends on their capacity to prepare and carry out trading during this time. If so far they have been able to achieve optimal results from their trading and promising profits, as long as they can manage the risks and understand how to do it wisely, then go ahead, we don't need to judge them.

Likewise with long-term investors who prefer to hold for a certain period of time. So they can be more comfortable just waiting without high risks for daily trading. And this once again becomes the choice of each individual to do so. As long as they really understand what each of them is doing in the crypto world, whether trading or investing, of course they have their own risks.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Essential10 on November 23, 2023, 08:34:01 AM
For some, the thrill of trading and the prospect of quick profits are enticing. Others prefer the more relaxed and long-term approach of hodling. They have distinct differences in terms of time frame, availability, transaction costs, long-term profitability and security. Whether you choose to trade or hold your bitcoins, hodling takes the stress out of constantly monitoring the market and making quick decisions. Trading can be a high-pressure and high-stress environment and often creates the potential for financial gain for the risk. For me, hodling is the easier and less stressful option. What to do with your bitcoins is your decision. Always prioritize the security of your Bitcoins by keeping your keys safe.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: ndutndut on November 23, 2023, 10:34:52 AM
In our community, HODLers use non-custodial wallets more, while active traders use centralized exchanges' built-in wallets to save on sending fees.

That’s true, I noticed people who buy hold for long period of time uses cold wallet. As for traders it’s better to use exchanges with low charges like Bitget to enjoy smooth trading.
What is clear is that both are good, depending on our respective skills in carrying out both because the goal is still one of seeking profits from both holding and trading. I myself prefer to hold because I don't need to worry about market prices in the near future because the goal is for the long term and I don't need to be afraid of my bitcoin savings because using a cold wallet is different. If we trade, of course we have to use an exchange.

In essence, it all depends on skill, don't force yourself to trade if you can't analyze the market well, holding BTC is the best strategy for me at the moment.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Popkon6 on November 23, 2023, 01:12:59 PM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

Nevertheless, despite these similarities hodling and trading are also distinct this is due to the fact that hodling is usually long termed ( hodling appreciates better during long term.) however trading returns come from short term fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin,some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

3. Long-Term  Gains ;Over time Bitcoin  has shown promising potential in it's price.Hodling  helps you benefit from the long term potential of Which in most cases appreciates better than little price gains from trading.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
 
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁

Holding and trading in Bitcoin is very important. 
Because it is definitely good to have an idea about Bitcoin holdings because gaining knowledge is always a good sign. Holdings are always long-term, and holding bitcoins is much less risky. Usually in a wallet you can hold bitcoins for a long time (repeatedly monthly or weekly, and also following the DCA method). Thus if you are holding bitcoins you need to use a secure wallet, which you can use a hardware wallet. Only a secure hardware wallet can store bitcoins for long periods of time with much less risk.

Trading is very sensitive. Because you should always keep updated news about the market. And a mistake is more likely to result in loss. Because the Bitcoin market is always up and down, if you can't trade on time, then you must do it at risk. This is why trading always involves a lot of risk.

Finally I would say holding is safer than trading. Because trading is always high risk and long term holding is low risk. Benefits are more in long term holding.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: benalexis12 on November 23, 2023, 02:08:43 PM
I will say learn from the best and those who have big and large amounts of Bitcoin.
Micheal Saylor, El Salvador President,  Robert Kiyosaki and those you know are real in for the uprise of Bitcoin,  they want to see you hold than they want to see you trade your coins.

Sowhy not adopt the same way they go. If you can not buy the way they do to accumulate and increase your holdings don't panic just make sure you have something doing as that wouldn't lead to you pushing trade your Bitcoin.
People trade for profits too, the question now is are your chances of profit  accumulations sure?

You know in truth that bitcoin holdings are very favorable in the long term for millionaires. But for people who are not like them and who also want to hold Bitcoin, it's fine too, but don't expect them to get rich from Bitcoin because it's very expensive at the moment if a holder who is not rich but wants to get rich in Bitcoin thinks.

But holdings are really the best tools for long-term investment, not only in Bitcoin but also in other top cryptos in the market.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: barisbilgili on November 23, 2023, 03:00:50 PM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different?
In the cryptocurrency industry, no one is responsible for others. Whether it is loss or profit, everyone is responsible for their own assets. So I think we can only advise for educational purposes which is better, hodling or trading. People have different teachings and oppositions on this topic, but to the extent that I have listened to the top analyst in this thread, and also he has advised me to hodle as compared to trading. So it means to say that the hodling strategy is an easy and simple strategy that every newbie can do easily, in which you don't have to put much effort into something like trading; just buy a simple coin and put it in the hardware wallet and hodl.
Everyone is of course responsible for what they do and in cryptocurrencies we must really understand well what we are going to do lest the income we get from our work and use it for investment or trading disappears suddenly because we don't understand it properly. what he did was right.
I agree with your opinion, if we are just starting out in the world of crypto, it would be better for us to invest because it is fairly easy because everyone can do it, it is very different from trading, it takes a lot of effort to be able to make a profit in trading.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: leonair on November 23, 2023, 03:19:23 PM
I will say learn from the best and those who have big and large amounts of Bitcoin.
Micheal Saylor, El Salvador President,  Robert Kiyosaki and those you know are real in for the uprise of Bitcoin,  they want to see you hold than they want to see you trade your coins.

Sowhy not adopt the same way they go. If you can not buy the way they do to accumulate and increase your holdings don't panic just make sure you have something doing as that wouldn't lead to you pushing trade your Bitcoin.
People trade for profits too, the question now is are your chances of profit  accumulations sure?

You know in truth that bitcoin holdings are very favorable in the long term for millionaires. But for people who are not like them and who also want to hold Bitcoin, it's fine too, but don't expect them to get rich from Bitcoin because it's very expensive at the moment if a holder who is not rich but wants to get rich in Bitcoin thinks.

But holdings are really the best tools for long-term investment, not only in Bitcoin but also in other top cryptos in the market.
Everyone knows that holding Bitcoin is a good thing. And it is possible to gain high profit through bitcoin holding which is very difficult to do through trading because trading is not always able to give profit and many times there is loss but there is no loss if holding. Because if the price of bitcoins falls after you buy them, you can't say that you have made a loss until you sell them. Because you will be holding them for long term so that loss recovery is again not a big problem for the holders.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Dunamisx on November 23, 2023, 03:20:04 PM
If you have the privilege to hodl then take advantage in this as your investment in bitcoin is to give you profits which can serves as your earnings means, then don't hesitate to grab in this opportunity regardless of what may be your challenges because bullrun will always come after Halving, also the value of bitcoin remains ever increasing and this is part of the reason why some have chosen bitcoin over any other forms of assets investment because it's relatively reliable.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: |MINER| on November 23, 2023, 03:21:18 PM
Everyone is of course responsible for what they do and in cryptocurrencies we must really understand well what we are going to do lest the income we get from our work and use it for investment or trading disappears suddenly because we don't understand it properly. what he did was right.
I agree with your opinion, if we are just starting out in the world of crypto, it would be better for us to invest because it is fairly easy because everyone can do it, it is very different from trading, it takes a lot of effort to be able to make a profit in trading.
You are right I am going to also agree with this opinion that holding is much better and easy rather than trading. Because if anyone want to do trading I mean short term trading here he have to knowledge about technical analysis like candle analysis. A short term trader should also always attention about cryptocurrency news and updates. In this case the beginner who are new into trading since they do not have much knowledge about technical analysis from the beginning, trading is very risky and difficult for them. On the other hand, if someone wants to hold for long term, he can hold for long time by following a DCA strategy with knowledge of some fundamental analysis, but it should be remembered that long term holding is safe only when it is done on Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: fauzan Ichsan on November 23, 2023, 03:22:37 PM
I will say learn from the best and those who have big and large amounts of Bitcoin.
Micheal Saylor, El Salvador President,  Robert Kiyosaki and those you know are real in for the uprise of Bitcoin,  they want to see you hold than they want to see you trade your coins.

Sowhy not adopt the same way they go. If you can not buy the way they do to accumulate and increase your holdings don't panic just make sure you have something doing as that wouldn't lead to you pushing trade your Bitcoin.
People trade for profits too, the question now is are your chances of profit  accumulations sure?

You know in truth that bitcoin holdings are very favorable in the long term for millionaires. But for people who are not like them and who also want to hold Bitcoin, it's fine too, but don't expect them to get rich from Bitcoin because it's very expensive at the moment if a holder who is not rich but wants to get rich in Bitcoin thinks.

But holdings are really the best tools for long-term investment, not only in Bitcoin but also in other top cryptos in the market.
especially for people like me who have a real job which is tied to work time, so it is more profitable to make long-term investments, from there the real job is not interrupted and I can make money from the results of long-term investments. I hope that I can be a retiree in my old age, considering that currently I work in the private sector, I actually want to learn trading too, maybe I will start small and learn to relax, so that as time goes by I have trading knowledge too


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: DaNNy001 on November 23, 2023, 03:46:02 PM
If you have the privilege to hodl then take advantage in this as your investment in bitcoin is to give you profits which can serves as your earnings means, then don't hesitate to grab in this opportunity regardless of what may be your challenges because bullrun will always come after Halving, also the value of bitcoin remains ever increasing and this is part of the reason why some have chosen bitcoin over any other forms of assets investment because it's relatively reliable.

If you are not privilege then I think you make out the opportunity for yourself because Bitcoin investment is an opportunity that everyone must not fail to miss especially now that you are aware of it, if you are not aware then I would have taught that atleast you weren't aware but if you know and preach out this taught and then fail to make out to achieve with this chance then it would be really disappointing, because after the whole bull season has past the only thing you might saying is just regretful feelings.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: |MINER| on November 24, 2023, 07:58:14 PM
There are also losses in holdings if one holds altcoins without holding bitcoins. Because it can be said that Bitcoin will never be a scam but altcoins are constantly being scammed. So if one wants to hold for long term then Bitcoin is better. and  holds Bitcoin long term they definitely profit but they have to have a target to hold Bitcoin until they reach their desired profit. A long-term hold does not mean a fixed period of time like a month, two months or a year. A long-term hold means folding until the target is crossed.  So if one does not reach his desired profit even after holding for six months or one year then one should not panic then it cannot be called a long term hold either.
I would agree with you that holding any other coin other than bitcoin in long term holding has more chance of loss.  All the alternatives I have hod in my life are now many times below the investment price. At the end of the day none of these could show me any profit.  I think investing in alternative coins is only good for short term trading.  For long-term trading, it is better to choose Bitcoin with your eyes closed.  In this case, you don't have to worry much about the security of your fund, just have some fundamental knowledge.  But here too it is better to follow a DCA method to avoid risk.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: oktana on November 24, 2023, 10:20:56 PM
I think Hodling is the best way As it the horse of long race and can give desired profit according to your goals on the other hand, Trading is the risky part where you can loose and gain as well Like for that you have to look at market sentiments all the time and Have to jump in the mud like you need to do DYOR sometime you fell prey of FOMO. Due to that you have to take your decisions in hurry or being emotional. You have to Do TA and FA. while in hodl you need not to take that much stress.

I had alot of conversation over hodling in this given thread where alot of seniors share their thoughts and experiences in this thread over it must read..........>>>>Buy the DIP, and HODL! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132720.msg62887083#msg62887083.html)
One man’s food another man’s poison. What if I told you that Hodling wasn’t better than Trading? Actually, if you asked me, I’ll choose Hodling but that doesn’t mean that trading is not valid. There are skilled traders who make better money trading than Hodling. Sometimes you should forget about other people’s opinions and do what works for you. There are people who even combine the both of them for maximum profit. So, you can’t really say one of them is bad; depends on who.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: 2Pizza410000BTC on November 24, 2023, 10:55:00 PM
I prefer holding because it doesn't bring too much stress to me and I have more time to do my main job. DCA and holding, are both easy to do and yield better results, IMO. Meanwhile, trading requires a large amount of knowledge and you have to spend a lot of time in front of the computer screen every day to test and analyze the market. But in the end, all of that is not enough for you to make the right trading decisions, things can still go against your predictions and cause you losses. As we all know, trading is much more complicated, and it is not for the masses.
I totally agree with your opinion. As a newbie as far as I know trading is very complicated who thinks trading is easy, I think it's totally stupid. I am speaking from my own experience I started trading with few dollars and tasted some profit one or two day. After tasting that profit I jumped back into trading and started trading now I lost 60 percent of my original balance in trading. Here if I had held on to the bitcoins without trading, my funds would have grown a lot and I wouldn't have lost. From here I realized that trading is never enough for the uninformed and less experienced. Holding is always suitable for newbies and inexperienced persons.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: gunhell16 on November 24, 2023, 11:17:19 PM
In the circumstances that we have now, specifically for those who have bitcoin holdings, it is good for them to just keep it on hold for now. It is not good for you to sell your bitcoin holdings right now, especially as we are approaching the halving or bull run.

In the current situation we are facing, I think it is better to trade in altcoin as long as it is on the list of top cryptos in the market, and it is also better to hold it long-term compared to Bitcoin. This is just my opinion. I am only saying this for the time being; it depends on whether you believe what I am saying. Because this is what I'm doing now, day trading, and so far so good, I'm getting earnings even if it's a small amount every day, but at least my profit, right?


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: terrific on November 24, 2023, 11:26:11 PM
In the circumstances that we have now, specifically for those who have bitcoin holdings, it is good for them to just keep it on hold for now. It is not good for you to sell your bitcoin holdings right now, especially as we are approaching the halving or bull run.
If some circumstances permit you to sell your holdings, don't regret it as that's what these holdings are for. For us to spend them.
But if there's no immediate circumstance that you are required to sell it, I agree to you that we should just hold it.

In the current situation we are facing, I think it is better to trade in altcoin as long as it is on the list of top cryptos in the market, and it is also better to hold it long-term compared to Bitcoin. This is just my opinion. I am only saying this for the time being; it depends on whether you believe what I am saying. Because this is what I'm doing now, day trading, and so far so good, I'm getting earnings even if it's a small amount every day, but at least my profit, right?
Some alts are also good for holding in the long term, we've seen that for some rising altcoins and that varies from every cycle and season that we get it.
I agree as well that if you're going to trade, it's much lighter to do it with altcoins.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: boty on November 25, 2023, 06:37:18 AM
In this case, you don't have to worry much about the security of your fund, just have some fundamental knowledge.  But here too it is better to follow a DCA method to avoid risk.
Using the DCA method in collecting Bitcoin is a good thing to do because everyone can do it as long as they understand the basics of investing using Bitcoin and also they have to collect it consistently to be able to wait until they can get a profit from the investment they make, if we can do it consistently By using the DCA method I am sure I will be able to get a profit from the investment I make.

I totally agree with your opinion. As a newbie as far as I know trading is very complicated who thinks trading is easy, I think it's totally stupid. I am speaking from my own experience I started trading with few dollars and tasted some profit one or two day. After tasting that profit I jumped back into trading and started trading now I lost 60 percent of my original balance in trading. Here if I had held on to the bitcoins without trading, my funds would have grown a lot and I wouldn't have lost. From here I realized that trading is never enough for the uninformed and less experienced. Holding is always suitable for newbies and inexperienced persons.
Everyone who is just starting something new to them and thinks it is easy is of course very arrogant and stupid. It is normal for everyone who does something new to them of course they don't understand anything about it, they have to learn it first. what will he do to be able to do this, if we talk about trading, of course it is not something that everyone can do, there are some who have a lot of experience and still experience losses in the trading they do.

You are right, not everyone can trade well because there are still those who have a lot of experience with trading who still make mistakes that cause them to experience losses, so it would be better for those who are new to have a little understanding about crypto to collect and hold it to achieve profits compared to trading.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Nrcewker on November 25, 2023, 06:39:49 AM
Definitely Holding is a process where you just invest in a particular coin for a fix period of time. Here you don’t have to do anything. Just buy the coins and hold it for a certain period of time. Whereas in trading, you have to give time to the market and take profits in regular intervals. If you cannot do this perfectly, then definitely you will make losses in longer go.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Ale88 on November 25, 2023, 08:28:39 AM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

Nevertheless, despite these similarities hodling and trading are also distinct this is due to the fact that hodling is usually long termed ( hodling appreciates better during long term.) however trading returns come from short term fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin,some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

3. Long-Term  Gains ;Over time Bitcoin  has shown promising potential in it's price.Hodling  helps you benefit from the long term potential of Which in most cases appreciates better than little price gains from trading.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
 
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁
I think that you forgot to mention the most important thing: if you do trading, there is the possibility to lose everything. If you just hold, then there is virtually no risk. I say virtually because of course you need to know how to store your keys and keep your wallet safe, otherwise someone could steal your funds.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: MIner1448 on November 25, 2023, 09:49:15 AM
Bitcoin hoarding and trading differ in their approach to owning and using coins. Hodling is the holding of bitcoins in a wallet on a long-term basis without frequent transactions. Trading involves frequent buying and selling transactions based on short-term price changes. Hodling provides benefits in terms of ease of use, low transaction costs, long-term benefits and security. The choice between hodling and trading depends on the investor's preferences and strategy. Everything is purely individual, I think whoever has positive experience in a particular strategy stays there.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: EarnOnVictor on November 25, 2023, 10:06:14 AM
There are also losses in holdings if one holds altcoins without holding bitcoins. Because it can be said that Bitcoin will never be a scam but altcoins are constantly being scammed. So if one wants to hold for long term then Bitcoin is better. and  holds Bitcoin long term they definitely profit but they have to have a target to hold Bitcoin until they reach their desired profit. A long-term hold does not mean a fixed period of time like a month, two months or a year. A long-term hold means folding until the target is crossed.  So if one does not reach his desired profit even after holding for six months or one year then one should not panic then it cannot be called a long term hold either.
I would agree with you that holding any other coin other than bitcoin in long term holding has more chance of loss.  All the alternatives I have hod in my life are now many times below the investment price. At the end of the day none of these could show me any profit.  I think investing in alternative coins is only good for short term trading.  For long-term trading, it is better to choose Bitcoin with your eyes closed.  In this case, you don't have to worry much about the security of your fund, just have some fundamental knowledge.  But here too it is better to follow a DCA method to avoid risk.
Bitcoin itself also had a fair share of the fall, imagine your asset depreciating about 5 times its ATH value, that is not a good thing as well. Nonetheless, instead for me to condemn the alternative coins for Bitcoin, I would rather advise that one should not just dabble into what they do not know or understand very well, experience is the key here and smartness in investment handling would help the HODLer so well.

But first, one must get acquainted with the project they are dealing with, they must know the history of the coin/token (if not new), the founder, the community base, the objective, the usefulness in the crypto space and many more. Mind you, the project that is positive in most of those points is not a bad project per se. Yet, the person should still proceed to be speculative, and this is applicable to Bitcoin as well. You don't just entirely trust any asset to perform forever as a true investor, you have doubts and you work rightly to outsmart the doubts and what you didn't plan for. This is where speculations come from, you don't just HODL blindly, you speculate and use regular analysis to back it up. Also, you only deal with long-term speculation in this regard since it's not a short-term investment. Now, the moment you see the market deviating from the bullish trend and having a bearish reversal on the larger timeframes of the technical chart, that is the time you know you are overstaying your welcome by continuing to hold that asset.

I repeat, Bitcoin inclusive. But you may buy back when a bullish trend is reactivated.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Bushdark on November 25, 2023, 05:31:23 PM
Bitcoin hoarding and trading differ in their approach to owning and using coins. Hodling is the holding of bitcoins in a wallet on a long-term basis without frequent transactions. Trading involves frequent buying and selling transactions based on short-term price changes. Hodling provides benefits in terms of ease of use, low transaction costs, long-term benefits and security. The choice between hodling and trading depends on the investor's preferences and strategy. Everything is purely individual, I think whoever has positive experience in a particular strategy stays there.
We should always go for the one we can do not trying to be holding and trading at the same time when we don't know how to trade.
The market is big enough with a lots of crypto projects we can buy and hold for as long as we want.
There is gain in holdings especially when we have good and volatile tokens in our wallet waiting for them to explore and keep increasing in price. The Crypto market is open to us and we can make huge profits depending on the risks we are taking and how much we are investing in the projects we have confidence in.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: BGoodwin on November 26, 2023, 12:43:24 PM
I hold because Tax Benefits:, long-term capital gains tax rates are lower than short-term rates, which can lead to tax advantages.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Fatunad on November 26, 2023, 08:07:26 PM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

Nevertheless, despite these similarities hodling and trading are also distinct this is due to the fact that hodling is usually long termed ( hodling appreciates better during long term.) however trading returns come from short term fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin,some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

3. Long-Term  Gains ;Over time Bitcoin  has shown promising potential in it's price.Hodling  helps you benefit from the long term potential of Which in most cases appreciates better than little price gains from trading.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
 
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁
I think that you forgot to mention the most important thing: if you do trading, there is the possibility to lose everything. If you just hold, then there is virtually no risk. I say virtually because of course you need to know how to store your keys and keep your wallet safe, otherwise someone could steal your funds.
No matter which way you would go, there's always a risks but they do really differ on certain extent and this is why it will really be your choice and your own responsibility on how you will really be handling up yourself
into these conditions on which it is normal that mistakes and errors could happen along  the way. Holding is less risk, yes but potential on holding for more long because of market crash or bear market then this is something that people or investors do like because they will really be that needing to take for couple or 5 years almost for a cycle before they could see those price to break even and this is why not all would
be opting out on holding but instead they would be actively trading it.

Even myself do find out that im not really that having that long patience when it comes to investing, i do get easily bored when i dont able to see profits in short time
and this is why i do really make out short trades but of course im aware of the risks involved and this is something that a must thing to have on each person.
Go into things on which you do most prefer.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: mirakal on November 26, 2023, 08:28:19 PM
If you have the privilege to hodl then take advantage in this as your investment in bitcoin is to give you profits which can serves as your earnings means, then don't hesitate to grab in this opportunity regardless of what may be your challenges because bullrun will always come after Halving, also the value of bitcoin remains ever increasing and this is part of the reason why some have chosen bitcoin over any other forms of assets investment because it's relatively reliable.

If you are not privilege then I think you make out the opportunity for yourself because Bitcoin investment is an opportunity that everyone must not fail to miss especially now that you are aware of it, if you are not aware then I would have taught that atleast you weren't aware but if you know and preach out this taught and then fail to make out to achieve with this chance then it would be really disappointing, because after the whole bull season has past the only thing you might saying is just regretful feelings.
Do no wait that you will be left behind with bitcoin opportunities. If you believe on it and has definitely made a good research that convinced you to invest in bitcoin, then invest in bitcoin now if you have the sufficient funds to invest, otherwise you will lost the opportunity and regret it forever. But if you are still in doubt, then take time to assess yourself until you finally come up with your own decision. Hodling and trading bitcoin is always profitable, as long as you know how to deal with its risks and you're open for some inevitable losses more than gains.

While the choice is left for you to decide whether to buy and hold, or trade, but the challenge here is not actually how and when to start, but to make your bitcoin hodling or trading sustainable and successful despite of its market volatility and uncertainty.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Mate2237 on November 26, 2023, 08:45:52 PM
Even though they are similar but they are not one and if it is to choose one, many of us will choose hodling and as you said, hodling is stress free while trading is stressful because you will be on the device to check the movement of the trade. investing in bitcoin also have a limit of deposit and withdrawal. There are some wallet that you hodle your bitcoins, you can not deposit or withdraw below $2 as bitcoin. So both has disadvantage and advantages.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: benalexis12 on November 26, 2023, 11:49:53 PM
For me, it is not necessary to shop for which is the better way to get profit in cryptocurrency because it probably depends on the desire of an individual to enter this crypto business industry, right?

It's just that most people want to make a profit. That's why the majority of the community here enters the trading industry even though they have no idea that they are gambling, and others think it's just gambling. Even though it's not really, holdings are also really safe, which can be said if you choose Bitcoin right away, but if it's crypto, the risk is also quite high.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: romero121 on November 26, 2023, 11:59:07 PM
Even though they are similar but they are not one and if it is to choose one, many of us will choose hodling and as you said, hodling is stress free while trading is stressful because you will be on the device to check the movement of the trade. investing in bitcoin also have a limit of deposit and withdrawal. There are some wallet that you hodle your bitcoins, you can not deposit or withdraw below $2 as bitcoin. So both has disadvantage and advantages.
Holding is just keeping our assets in a secure manner and making use of it after specific time period or waiting for particular price to be reached. With trading there is a need of regular market watching and we need to make better prediction so to increase the chance of making profit. With holding we won't learn anything about the market, whereas the money into trading will give us learning about the market. We know much about the price movement and based on the same we can extend the holding time period. So, atleast small amount need to be involved into trading in my view.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Oasisman on November 27, 2023, 02:33:13 AM
Definitely Holding is a process where you just invest in a particular coin for a fix period of time. Here you don’t have to do anything. Just buy the coins and hold it for a certain period of time. Whereas in trading, you have to give time to the market and take profits in regular intervals. If you cannot do this perfectly, then definitely you will make losses in longer go.

This is where new investors misconceptions came from, because they think holding is easy like you don't have to do anything and just waiting for some profit. But IMO, you still need to study the market, check the crypto related news, and things like these for you to be able to know when will be the good time to buy and when will be the best time to sell. I thought, deciding when to sell would also be difficult. I mean people don't want to regret for selling early and selling late. I don't want to make holding sound like it's a really easy and straight forward method of investment, as some people may lose their money especially during a prolonged bearish market. Like what happened in 2018, a lot of weak hands already panicked on that year lol.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Bitcoin_people on November 27, 2023, 03:59:35 AM
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1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.
A secure wallet is of course essential for investing in Bitcoin. 
When you buy Bitcoin the first thing you need is a secure wallet where your funds will be kept safe.
Money is the most important thing you must have for trading and investing, without money you can never invest. So for holding and trading or investing you need to save money first and buy bitcoins later. Then if you have bitcoins you can hold them for a long time and profit from them in the future.
When storing your bitcoins in a secure wallet, you must store them in a hardware or software wallet. Your bitcoins will be safe when you use these wallets. Moreover, if you want to keep your funds safe, you must keep your wallet keys in a safe place so that there is no chance of being hacked.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: EarnOnVictor on November 27, 2023, 08:51:06 AM
Even though they are similar but they are not one and if it is to choose one, many of us will choose hodling and as you said, hodling is stress free while trading is stressful because you will be on the device to check the movement of the trade. investing in bitcoin also have a limit of deposit and withdrawal. There are some wallet that you hodle your bitcoins, you can not deposit or withdraw below $2 as bitcoin. So both has disadvantage and advantages.
Holding is just keeping our assets in a secure manner and making use of it after specific time period or waiting for particular price to be reached. With trading there is a need of regular market watching and we need to make better prediction so to increase the chance of making profit. With holding we won't learn anything about the market, whereas the money into trading will give us learning about the market. We know much about the price movement and based on the same we can extend the holding time period. So, atleast small amount need to be involved into trading in my view.
You are not right in some of what you wrote here, my friend, but permit me to say that you actually know the true meaning of HODLing and Trading so as to differentiate between them. People often believe that HODLing is a regular investment where the trader will be checking the chart and their wallets all the time and something similar to trading, but NO, it's far from that. If you must HODL, you have to make up your mind that you are putting the money there and close your eyes since it's for a long future keepng which could be in years or even decades.

However, where you made the error is that someone does not need to learn before HODLing, No, You have to learn a lot before you HODL. You need to know the asset you want to HODL, how it behaves, the immediate and future prospects, and reliability/shortcomings and many more. Even at that, if you are not making an analysis about it too, you shouldn't still turn a deaf ear to your HODLed asset, you have to be reading the news and following the fundamentals around it in case of bad events that need your quick action.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Bitcoinpoly on November 27, 2023, 03:36:17 PM
Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

Nevertheless, despite these similarities hodling and trading are also distinct this is due to the fact that hodling is usually long termed ( hodling appreciates better during long term.) however trading returns come from short term fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin,some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

3. Long-Term  Gains ;Over time Bitcoin  has shown promising potential in it's price.Hodling  helps you benefit from the long term potential of Which in most cases appreciates better than little price gains from trading.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
 
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁

Anyways as for me I prefer to hold my assets for long term so I can have the opportunity to put them in flexible savings and still wait for the assets to rise. Any time I intend to trade I mostly make use of copy trading on Bitget.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Bitcoinpoly on November 27, 2023, 03:40:12 PM


You will make more money in holding than trading but people do like and prefer passive income so that they can live on it every day, but I don't believe much in passive income compared to long-term investment, I don't want to know how professional you are at trading, if you have invested in Bitcoin at $100 you will make biggest money today holding your bags, compare to trading, because with trading comes some risks, there will be wrong callings and you will lose money.

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I also believe that holding will bring better returns than trading, but because people are so impatient, they turn to trading, especially futures trading. But most will get disastrous results, but the sadder thing is that many people still don't realize it, many people still rush into futures trading in the hope of making quick profits with huge leverage.

As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.

It’s very possible for you to get good profit from trading as well, most especially when you’re good at analyzing charts, or when you copy trade from a good elite trader, although the copy trading feature is not available on all exchanges, few exchanges like Bitget develop it to help their users make profit.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Bitcoinpoly on November 27, 2023, 03:42:37 PM
Between holding and trading with Bitcoin, holding is always the best. Because holding is always less risky than trading. Trading at this time is very risky because the Bitcoin market is very volatile right now. If you're patient, you're holding on to Bitcoin for the long term. This allows you to earn more money by taking less risk.
holding is the best to avoid the risk of losing your money while trading and the only way you can lose your money is when the price is coming down that is if you are holding and you will still make your money back when the price comes back, because with what is happening in the market now it is not favorable to trade so there is a choice you want to trade you trade if you want to hold you hold.
There is no loss in holding because the price of Bitcoins falls below the value of the investment but it recovers again. But this requires patience. If you patiently hold for long term, you will definitely get profit from there. However, this patience is not shared by everyone and failure to hold long-term results in a bad experience with Bitcoin. And those who can hold it successfully are sure to profit.

Now explain to me how you draw these contradictory conclusions?

Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.

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some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;
....

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.
In our community, HODLers use non-custodial wallets more, while active traders use centralized exchanges' built-in wallets to save on sending fees.

That’s true, I noticed people who buy hold for long period of time uses cold wallet. As for traders it’s better to use exchanges with low charges like Bitget to enjoy smooth trading.
A person who trades regularly and has no plans to hold should use a centralized exchange to trade smoothly. And if one intends to hold then a good Decentralized wallet should be used to hold long term Bitcoins. in this case Electrum Bitcoin Wallet is more comfortable to use and secure.

Yea, CEX is the best for traders there are also some other opportunities on CEX that users will really enjoy rather than using DEX with high transaction fee.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Baki202 on November 27, 2023, 04:20:05 PM
Even though they are similar but they are not one and if it is to choose one, many of us will choose hodling and as you said, hodling is stress free while trading is stressful because you will be on the device to check the movement of the trade. investing in bitcoin also have a limit of deposit and withdrawal. There are some wallet that you hodle your bitcoins, you can not deposit or withdraw below $2 as bitcoin. So both has disadvantage and advantages.
It is a matter of choice and again actually but I look at the one that is less risky many will choose holding and I will also choose holding anytime any day it is good to take risk but you trade if you have ideas and your ready to take risk then trading is the right choice then, if it comes to that case then before putting or depositing your money you need to read the terms and conditions first before you will end up not having access to your money.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Best-mary on November 28, 2023, 01:13:42 PM
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1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, holding does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.
A secure wallet is of course essential for investing in Bitcoin. 
When you buy Bitcoin the first thing you need is a secure wallet where your funds will be kept safe.
Money is the most important thing you must have for trading and investing, without money you can never invest. So for holding and trading or investing you need to save money first and buy bitcoins later. Then if you have bitcoins you can hold them for a long time and profit from them in the future.
When storing your bitcoins in a secure wallet, you must store them in a hardware or software wallet. Your bitcoins will be safe when you use these wallets. Moreover, if you want to keep your funds safe, you must keep your wallet keys in a safe place so that there is no chance of being hacked.

I do both. I think both come in handy but it depends on how strategic you could make it be. I hold for a long-term future. Then trade to gain some profit. In the process of trading and maybe the market seems to be volatile I usually use Dual Investment to get it done in other not to risk it


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: atamism on November 28, 2023, 01:23:03 PM
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1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, holding does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.
A secure wallet is of course essential for investing in Bitcoin. 
When you buy Bitcoin the first thing you need is a secure wallet where your funds will be kept safe.
Money is the most important thing you must have for trading and investing, without money you can never invest. So for holding and trading or investing you need to save money first and buy bitcoins later. Then if you have bitcoins you can hold them for a long time and profit from them in the future.
When storing your bitcoins in a secure wallet, you must store them in a hardware or software wallet. Your bitcoins will be safe when you use these wallets. Moreover, if you want to keep your funds safe, you must keep your wallet keys in a safe place so that there is no chance of being hacked.

I do both. I think both come in handy but it depends on how strategic you could make it be. I hold for a long-term future. Then trade to gain some profit. In the process of trading and maybe the market seems to be volatile I usually use Dual Investment to get it done in other not to risk it
Yes, like you I do the both. I am holding and the same time trading. If I am confident with the coins I hold it for a long time then do a short trade with the other coins. I do hold BNB before and trade some alts like Ros, Sol, Ata and etc. Just set up Buy and sell, everything is well handled and easy transaction. then if I earn from the other alts I invested it on BNB and hold it.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 28, 2023, 03:28:57 PM
People contradict trading and holding of coin or bitcoin, both things is of different things and I believe that when you are holding a coin is totally different from someone who is trading, in trading you can lose thousands and millions of dollars within short intervals whereas for holding for long term whenever the coin or market is bad to the extent that its depreciating in value you will notice instantly and you can equally convert it to a stablecoins so that you will not lose much, some people taught that holding of a coin and trading of a coin is the same thing but they don't know that they are totally a different thing.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Mate2237 on November 28, 2023, 11:02:04 PM
Yes we all know that buying and hodling Bitcoin is the best but trading brings food to the table more faster than investing or hodling for a very long period before getting profits. Those who are very good trading can make that amount you are targeting in your investment within a year and it might even be double.

Hodling of Bitcoin and trading can never in one though all have their own risk and the most dangerous one which everyone knows is trading. If you can't face risk then you don't have to trade because there are some times you will be thinking that you are going to make profit from the trade but small mistake you do will just spoiled everything and you have to start from the beginning again. Buy and hodle will give you peace of mind. But trading you are always alert to do one thing or the other to make sure that the system is running.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Y3shot on November 28, 2023, 11:40:39 PM
Even though they are similar but they are not one and if it is to choose one, many of us will choose hodling and as you said, hodling is stress free while trading is stressful because you will be on the device to check the movement of the trade. investing in bitcoin also have a limit of deposit and withdrawal. There are some wallet that you hodle your bitcoins, you can not deposit or withdraw below $2 as bitcoin. So both has disadvantage and advantages.
It is a matter of choice and again actually but I look at the one that is less risky many will choose holding and I will also choose holding anytime any day it is good to take risk but you trade if you have ideas and your ready to take risk then trading is the right choice then, if it comes to that case then before putting or depositing your money you need to read the terms and conditions first before you will end up not having access to your money.
Investing or trading is thing of choice , the reason why people will always prefer hodling than trading is because trading us more risky than hodling.  In hodling what you just need to do is to understand the market  understanding the market is the only way people can make profit  from Bitcoin.  Learning trading is very broad , a lot of things needs to be known to make trading perfect and to get a better result from it. Because of the low risk when investing bitcoin people prefer hofling than trading.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: icalical on November 29, 2023, 03:07:28 AM
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It is a matter of choice and again actually but I look at the one that is less risky many will choose holding and I will also choose holding anytime any day it is good to take risk but you trade if you have ideas and your ready to take risk then trading is the right choice then, if it comes to that case then before putting or depositing your money you need to read the terms and conditions first before you will end up not having access to your money.
Investing or trading is thing of choice , the reason why people will always prefer hodling than trading is because trading us more risky than hodling.  In hodling what you just need to do is to understand the market  understanding the market is the only way people can make profit  from Bitcoin.  Learning trading is very broad , a lot of things needs to be known to make trading perfect and to get a better result from it. Because of the low risk when investing bitcoin people prefer hofling than trading.

I agree, and moreover trading is not for everyone, it needs us to spend many times on it, while we don't invest much of our time for it, we just buy the coin and let it grow by itself, while as you said if we want to do trading we need to learn a lot of stuff, and we need to spend our time on it, most of us have a another 'normal' job' that demands more of our time.

And some (if not most) of us, crypto enthusiast wish that we could just leave our job and become a full-time trader, LOL.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: peter0425 on November 29, 2023, 03:50:46 AM
Even though they are similar but they are not one and if it is to choose one, many of us will choose hodling and as you said, hodling is stress free while trading is stressful because you will be on the device to check the movement of the trade. investing in bitcoin also have a limit of deposit and withdrawal. There are some wallet that you hodle your bitcoins, you can not deposit or withdraw below $2 as bitcoin. So both has disadvantage and advantages.
It is a matter of choice and again actually but I look at the one that is less risky many will choose holding and I will also choose holding anytime any day it is good to take risk but you trade if you have ideas and your ready to take risk then trading is the right choice then, if it comes to that case then before putting or depositing your money you need to read the terms and conditions first before you will end up not having access to your money.
what is my point here is that depending in what coins are we talking about because if this is purely bitcoin
(given that this is Bitcoin section yet I will give my points in altcoins) then indeed that we are best for Holding because assuring
our safeties and profiting ? yes this is for bitcoin solely but it is not advisable for Trading specially in Daytrading .

But if this is altcoin , then yes better to focus in trading because they are fast moving and yes can generate income at some point


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Fuso.hp on November 29, 2023, 04:00:21 AM
I have bought bitcoin and held it for a long time as well as I am involved in trading so both are acceptable to me. If a person feels that he will be satisfied with a small profit and he will buy or sell any coin according to the market, then trading is fine for him, but those who expect more profit will definitely prefer to invest for a long period of time. I think everyone should have a long term investment, if they can afford it then make a long term plan accordingly hold a coin and with some more money a person can trade if they want. If you have a good idea about trading, maybe it is possible to meet your needs with the money gained from trading, but if you invest for a long time, that investment has the potential to change our life.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Odohu on November 29, 2023, 04:15:29 AM
I have bought bitcoin and held it for a long time as well as I am involved in trading so both are acceptable to me. If a person feels that he will be satisfied with a small profit and he will buy or sell any coin according to the market, then trading is fine for him, but those who expect more profit will definitely prefer to invest for a long period of time. I think everyone should have a long term investment, if they can afford it then make a long term plan accordingly hold a coin and with some more money a person can trade if they want. If you have a good idea about trading, maybe it is possible to meet your needs with the money gained from trading, but if you invest for a long time, that investment has the potential to change our life.
Many successful Bitcoin investors that I know also combine both trading and long term holding. The profits from trading, normally come very fast and also dissappear very fast, so what they do is to set aside some portion of their funds for long term holding and will gradually be adding on it from the profits of their trading.

I understand it takes huge discipline to be able to maintain both class of investment and not mix them up. In our interaction, some said how they were able to handle it is to ensure that no matter what happens, they will never transfer money from the long term investment to their trading account but can only transfer from the later to the former. And if they happen to blow their trading account, they will have to look for money elsewhere to fund the account. I think this formula is feasible.

Therefore, both trading and long term investment can be combined to achieve optimal returns.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: moneystery on November 29, 2023, 04:17:14 AM
if i had to choose between hodling and trading, i would prefer hodling because it is much easier to hodling compared to trading which requires in-depth analysis of the market. with hodling i can use the dca method which allows me to invest in bitcoin with lower capital and hold it for a longer period of time and sell it at the right time.

hodling also doesn't require a lot of time in analysis like trading because all you need is a wallet to store bitcoin. and i can manage my investments whenever i want. so for someone like me, hodling is better than trading.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Sebas.tian on November 29, 2023, 04:28:22 AM
Quote from: Fuso.hp
I have bought bitcoin and held it for a long time as well as I am involved in trading so both are acceptable to me. If a person feels that he will be satisfied with a small profit and he will buy or sell any coin according to the market, then trading is fine for him, but those who expect more profit will definitely prefer to invest for a long period of time. I think everyone should have a long term investment, if they can afford it then make a long term plan accordingly hold a coin and with some more money a person can trade if they want. If you have a good idea about trading, maybe it is possible to meet your needs with the money gained from trading, but if you invest for a long time, that investment has the potential to change our life.

If you can get it right to purchase your coins in a due season to apply a long holding on it, it will allow you to achieve a good income from your holding because there is no way the price of Bitcoin will remain low through out the year without allow short term holders and long term holders to smile. Once you are able to purchase the potential coins, it is your choice to trade if you are satisfy with the current price because nobody want to experience losses from his or her trading, which are some of the reasons why some traders don't trade their coins anyhow in the market. Based on some of the signs in the market, show that bullish season will soon come for those that want to trade their coins to get prepare for what will happen soon before they can trade to make passive income.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: freedomgo on November 29, 2023, 05:20:35 AM
if i had to choose between hodling and trading, i would prefer hodling because it is much easier to hodling compared to trading which requires in-depth analysis of the market. with hodling i can use the dca method which allows me to invest in bitcoin with lower capital and hold it for a longer period of time and sell it at the right time.

hodling also doesn't require a lot of time in analysis like trading because all you need is a wallet to store bitcoin. and i can manage my investments whenever i want. so for someone like me, hodling is better than trading.

I guess it's not easy to hold as long as you would stay realistic that you'll not expect you'll make a decent return in a short period of time.

When we are "HODLING", this implies that we are up to the long term game, so patience is very important in this journey because without it, we might feel the unsatisfation of waiting and could even result to panic if we witness a market dump and we didn't realize it's a normal thing for bitcoin and in the crypto market as a whole.

They keyword here is "HODL'..... Follow the meaning of that and you'll succeed.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Assface16678 on November 29, 2023, 06:53:52 AM
People contradict trading and holding of coin or bitcoin, both things is of different things and I believe that when you are holding a coin is totally different from someone who is trading, in trading you can lose thousands and millions of dollars within short intervals whereas for holding for long term whenever the coin or market is bad to the extent that its depreciating in value you will notice instantly and you can equally convert it to a stablecoins so that you will not lose much, some people taught that holding of a coin and trading of a coin is the same thing but they don't know that they are totally a different thing.
Yes, holding or "hodl" and trading have a difference or are totally different, but I will disagree about "trading, you can lose thousands and millions of dollars within short intervals" because it still depends on the trader on how much he will lose or earn. In fact, just holding an asset or crypto coin could also cost you money if you enter a wrong position. Yes, they are both different things or different ways to earn money, but they both have the concept of losing money if you do wrong, if your analysis is wrong, or if your decision is wrong.

I do both holding assets and trading, holding bitcoin assets and some altcoins and waiting for a good moment or position to sell, while trading because, of course, holding is long-term, so it will take a quite time before I can earn from that, so I do trade for me to have earnings depending on my trading period.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Venik on November 29, 2023, 08:31:07 AM
if i had to choose between hodling and trading, i would prefer hodling because it is much easier to hodling compared to trading which requires in-depth analysis of the market. with hodling i can use the dca method which allows me to invest in bitcoin with lower capital and hold it for a longer period of time and sell it at the right time.

hodling also doesn't require a lot of time in analysis like trading because all you need is a wallet to store bitcoin. and i can manage my investments whenever i want. so for someone like me, hodling is better than trading.

I guess it's not easy to hold as long as you would stay realistic that you'll not expect you'll make a decent return in a short period of time.

When we are "HODLING", this implies that we are up to the long term game, so patience is very important in this journey because without it, we might feel the unsatisfation of waiting and could even result to panic if we witness a market dump and we didn't realize it's a normal thing for bitcoin and in the crypto market as a whole.

They keyword here is "HODL'..... Follow the meaning of that and you'll succeed.

It doesn't really matter how you call that. It's kinda obvious that patience is important, it works for all investments. Short-term gains are for traders.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Outhue on November 29, 2023, 09:13:37 AM
Obviously holders have a long time preference and traders are trying to get rich quick. The crazy thing is that even knowing Bitcoin is the greatest performing asset in human history, people still want to trade it instead of holding it. Even with all the billionaires holding has created and all the people who lost everything trading, people still think they’re going to trade themselves to wealth, missing out on doing so by not holding.
You are right OgNasty, but how about those traders that are very good at trading? Some are making fortune from trading only, I know like two brothers who are living the dream because of trading, I know that majority of traders are not professionals but some are really doing so well with trading.

I accept that holding is the best thing to do in crypto space, it erase the exposure of risks everyday trading and losing part of your assets, and it's very straight forward, just find a way to survive for long you will do really well, but people somehow prefer earning some money per day, even if it's very low in value they seem to prefer it to holding for longterm.



Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: CryptoBuds on November 29, 2023, 09:25:21 AM
Obviously holders have a long time preference and traders are trying to get rich quick. The crazy thing is that even knowing Bitcoin is the greatest performing asset in human history, people still want to trade it instead of holding it. Even with all the billionaires holding has created and all the people who lost everything trading, people still think they’re going to trade themselves to wealth, missing out on doing so by not holding.
You are right OgNasty, but how about those traders that are very good at trading? Some are making fortune from trading only, I know like two brothers who are living the dream because of trading, I know that majority of traders are not professionals but some are really doing so well with trading.

I accept that holding is the best thing to do in crypto space, it erase the exposure of risks everyday trading and losing part of your assets, and it's very straight forward, just find a way to survive for long you will do really well, but people somehow prefer earning some money per day, even if it's very low in value they seem to prefer it to holding for longterm.


I still favor investors over trading because I am also an investor. But it cannot be denied that there are many people who are making money every day from trading and can change their lives through trading. I don't remember the exact names but even on our forum there are some people who have confirmed their daily income comes from trading and they are doing very well with it. Trading is risky and not suitable for many people, but that doesn't mean everyone loses money by becoming a trader. But, why don't we combine the two?


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Gladitorcomeback on November 29, 2023, 09:34:51 AM
Obviously holders have a long time preference and traders are trying to get rich quick. The crazy thing is that even knowing Bitcoin is the greatest performing asset in human history, people still want to trade it instead of holding it. Even with all the billionaires holding has created and all the people who lost everything trading, people still think they’re going to trade themselves to wealth, missing out on doing so by not holding.
You are right OgNasty, but how about those traders that are very good at trading? Some are making fortune from trading only, I know like two brothers who are living the dream because of trading, I know that majority of traders are not professionals but some are really doing so well with trading.

I accept that holding is the best thing to do in crypto space, it erase the exposure of risks everyday trading and losing part of your assets, and it's very straight forward, just find a way to survive for long you will do really well, but people somehow prefer earning some money per day, even if it's very low in value they seem to prefer it to holding for longterm.

@Outhue you are right,Both trading and holding are way of earning and both trader and holder have different strategies and unique goals. we cannot blame trader if we are not so good in trading. You should know that trading will give you 5 times more Profit then just holding if you are experienced trader. Suppose one holder hold 1 btc for 2 years while other just doing trading (Buy low sell high). As we now BTC will trade parabolic , Trader will earn on daily/weekly or monthly basis while holder will wait for btc to pump. During the journey of btc along 2x ,trader would have made 5 btc.

Everyone one have different approach and one strategy will not fit to other. Everyone has different goal, risk tolerance on which he decide which one is best suitable for him. I think we should support both as holder are best for btc future while trader will provide enough liquidity for instant buy sell


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: bearexin on November 29, 2023, 10:46:25 AM
Bitcoin hoarding and trading differ in their approach to owning and using coins. Hodling is the holding of bitcoins in a wallet on a long-term basis without frequent transactions. Trading involves frequent buying and selling transactions based on short-term price changes. Hodling provides benefits in terms of ease of use, low transaction costs, long-term benefits and security. The choice between hodling and trading depends on the investor's preferences and strategy. Everything is purely individual, I think whoever has positive experience in a particular strategy stays there.
We should always go for the one we can do not trying to be holding and trading at the same time when we don't know how to trade.
The market is big enough with a lots of crypto projects we can buy and hold for as long as we want.
There is gain in holdings especially when we have good and volatile tokens in our wallet waiting for them to explore and keep increasing in price. The Crypto market is open to us and we can make huge profits depending on the risks we are taking and how much we are investing in the projects we have confidence in.
To be honest, not all cryptocurrencies are worth being held for the long term and most of them are extremely volatile and unpredictable and aren't suitable for this which is the reason why altcoins are generally used just for short or medium-term trading and not for long-term holding like Bitcoin. There are only a few altcoins that can be trusted to be held for a long time, ETH is one example of that which is the second largest and most successful cryptocurrency in the market.

It is also not necessary for a person to just do one of the two as one can always do both holding and trading since it isn't that difficult to learn the necessary trading practices and get into trading while you are already holding some of your assets like Bitcoin and ETH or a few more altcoins that you think have the potential to provide good returns in the long run.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: freedomgo on November 29, 2023, 11:54:26 AM
if i had to choose between hodling and trading, i would prefer hodling because it is much easier to hodling compared to trading which requires in-depth analysis of the market. with hodling i can use the dca method which allows me to invest in bitcoin with lower capital and hold it for a longer period of time and sell it at the right time.

hodling also doesn't require a lot of time in analysis like trading because all you need is a wallet to store bitcoin. and i can manage my investments whenever i want. so for someone like me, hodling is better than trading.

I guess it's not easy to hold as long as you would stay realistic that you'll not expect you'll make a decent return in a short period of time.

When we are "HODLING", this implies that we are up to the long term game, so patience is very important in this journey because without it, we might feel the unsatisfation of waiting and could even result to panic if we witness a market dump and we didn't realize it's a normal thing for bitcoin and in the crypto market as a whole.

They keyword here is "HODL'..... Follow the meaning of that and you'll succeed.

It doesn't really matter how you call that. It's kinda obvious that patience is important, it works for all investments. Short-term gains are for traders.

It matters if you are in crypto, because HODL or HOLD has a different meaning.

If you aren't ware yet, HOLD means, “hold on for dear life,”... means it's like holding forever which you don't usually apply as strategy in other forms of investment. This method would only work with investing in bitcoin as it has a real chance it'll survive and will not be affected whatever economic crisis we'll experience.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: milewilda on November 29, 2023, 12:03:25 PM
Bitcoin hoarding and trading differ in their approach to owning and using coins. Hodling is the holding of bitcoins in a wallet on a long-term basis without frequent transactions. Trading involves frequent buying and selling transactions based on short-term price changes. Hodling provides benefits in terms of ease of use, low transaction costs, long-term benefits and security. The choice between hodling and trading depends on the investor's preferences and strategy. Everything is purely individual, I think whoever has positive experience in a particular strategy stays there.
We should always go for the one we can do not trying to be holding and trading at the same time when we don't know how to trade.
The market is big enough with a lots of crypto projects we can buy and hold for as long as we want.
There is gain in holdings especially when we have good and volatile tokens in our wallet waiting for them to explore and keep increasing in price. The Crypto market is open to us and we can make huge profits depending on the risks we are taking and how much we are investing in the projects we have confidence in.
To be honest, not all cryptocurrencies are worth being held for the long term and most of them are extremely volatile and unpredictable and aren't suitable for this which is the reason why altcoins are generally used just for short or medium-term trading and not for long-term holding like Bitcoin. There are only a few altcoins that can be trusted to be held for a long time, ETH is one example of that which is the second largest and most successful cryptocurrency in the market.

It is also not necessary for a person to just do one of the two as one can always do both holding and trading since it isn't that difficult to learn the necessary trading practices and get into trading while you are already holding some of your assets like Bitcoin and ETH or a few more altcoins that you think have the potential to provide good returns in the long run.
It would really vary on what coin you are really that holding which its true that not all would really be that would be hold for long term. If you are that someone that have trust on a certain project then it would be good
but we know on what coin should really be that be hold for long years which is Bitcoin and some top known altcoins or already have that strong community. If you cant be able to bare up with the risks then holding would be your choice but if you are someone whose really that risk taker then you could really choose up on trading but of course this is something which it is really that very hard when it comes to make yourself profitable.
It would be needing up tons of experience and awareness on how this market moves because if you dont then you would be finding out yourself to be that failing on this one.

So its matter of choice on which one you would be choosing because not all would really be risk takers and not all would really be that confident on what they ha invested. This is why
decisions been made would really be entirely be different to each other but we know that there would really be those individuals who would really be loving
to take up the risks for  them to be able to gain benefit or having the chance to make profits.                                                                          


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: BabyBandit on November 29, 2023, 12:14:23 PM
You can do both, I never understand people that think you only can choose one option. Long term holding is good and also it's P2P trading to increase your crypto currencies. I would never settle down with just one.  ;)


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Blitzboy on November 29, 2023, 12:19:29 PM
Obviously holders have a long time preference and traders are trying to get rich quick. The crazy thing is that even knowing Bitcoin is the greatest performing asset in human history, people still want to trade it instead of holding it. Even with all the billionaires holding has created and all the people who lost everything trading, people still think they’re going to trade themselves to wealth, missing out on doing so by not holding.
You are right OgNasty, but how about those traders that are very good at trading? Some are making fortune from trading only, I know like two brothers who are living the dream because of trading, I know that majority of traders are not professionals but some are really doing so well with trading.

I accept that holding is the best thing to do in crypto space, it erase the exposure of risks everyday trading and losing part of your assets, and it's very straight forward, just find a way to survive for long you will do really well, but people somehow prefer earning some money per day, even if it's very low in value they seem to prefer it to holding for longterm.

@Outhue you are right,Both trading and holding are way of earning and both trader and holder have different strategies and unique goals. we cannot blame trader if we are not so good in trading. You should know that trading will give you 5 times more Profit then just holding if you are experienced trader. Suppose one holder hold 1 btc for 2 years while other just doing trading (Buy low sell high). As we now BTC will trade parabolic , Trader will earn on daily/weekly or monthly basis while holder will wait for btc to pump. During the journey of btc along 2x ,trader would have made 5 btc.

Everyone one have different approach and one strategy will not fit to other. Everyone has different goal, risk tolerance on which he decide which one is best suitable for him. I think we should support both as holder are best for btc future while trader will provide enough liquidity for instant buy sell
Strategy variety is essential. While skilled traders can increase their gains, this strategy isnt for everyone. It requires time, skill, and risk-taking that not everyone has. However, holders may not realize immediate rewards but strengthen Bitcoin's base. Bitcoin's ecosystem relies on traders and holders. A functional market requires traders to drive daily volume and liquidity. Bitcoin's long-term valuation is based on holders' consistent optimism. Both work together to create a vibrant but robust market.

We embrace both solutions because they uphold Bitcoin's revolutionary ideas of decentralization, human choice, and financial liberty. Bitcoin's financial significance and durability are strengthened by this approach diversity.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: R100K-Martin-Lunger on December 03, 2023, 04:47:16 PM

With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁

Solid advice about altcoin HODLing. That's always a terrible idea.

BUT people who have learned how to use them are making big bucks, too. After years of studying the market as a Bitcoin enthusiast, I myself learned the potential of altcoins and how they can really boost short-term gains.

And now my new, but growing, community has steadily growing investments. We're using human-in-the-loop AI and dynamic rebalancing to identify short-term opportunities in altcoins, investing without leverage, and making decent profits. It's so simple, our users don't even have to look at any charts or make trading decisions.

Anyway, again, HODLing altcoins is a bad idea.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: nurilham on December 03, 2023, 08:54:16 PM
You can do both, I never understand people that think you only can choose one option. Long term holding is good and also it's P2P trading to increase your crypto currencies. I would never settle down with just one.  ;)
Agree. Why we must choose 1 option if we can do both, right? It is very possible to trade while investing in Bitcoin. I also do this although I don't trade everyday. I divide my funds into 2 parts, some of my funds for buying Bitcoin for a long term investment and the rest of the funds for trading. I have no problem with this way. I even can add more my Bitcoin asset whenever I got profits from trading. The profits got from trading, to buy more Bitcoin for a long term holding. Sometimes, some of the profits to convert to fiats and I spend the profits for buying goods as well. So, while we invest in Bitcoin, we also can enjoy profits from trading at the same time.  ;)




Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Orpichukwu on December 03, 2023, 09:15:15 PM
To be honest, not all cryptocurrencies are worth being held for the long term and most of them are extremely volatile and unpredictable and aren't suitable for this which is the reason why altcoins are generally used just for short or medium-term trading and not for long-term holding like Bitcoin. There are only a few altcoins that can be trusted to be held for a long time, ETH is one example of that which is the second largest and most successful cryptocurrency in the market.

It is also not necessary for a person to just do one of the two as one can always do both holding and trading since it isn't that difficult to learn the necessary trading practices and get into trading while you are already holding some of your assets like Bitcoin and ETH or a few more altcoins that you think have the potential to provide good returns in the long run.

Not all cryptocurrencies are safe to be hold for long time, which is true, but this is not a result of their volatility, because almost all cryptocurrencies are volatile in nature, unless for those called stable coins. Bitcoin is volatile, yet it's safe to be hold for long and has proven its self as a long-time-investment. When it comes to safe-to-be-hold, which should look at the coin-use-case. I mean, what they can be use for and not just all the hype they get from whoever is promoting them. 
 
Most Altcoins, especially those Meme-Tokens, are not here to stay for long. They are short-time-projects, as I see most of them, and I will advise anyone, who wants to invest in such coins, to be careful and don't consider holding them for years without going to check up on them, before they end up losing all at once, just like those, who choose to invest in NFT, are crying out loud this period.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on December 03, 2023, 09:19:51 PM
I still favor investors over trading because I am also an investor. But it cannot be denied that there are many people who are making money every day from trading and can change their lives through trading. I don't remember the exact names but even on our forum there are some people who have confirmed their daily income comes from trading and they are doing very well with it. Trading is risky and not suitable for many people, but that doesn't mean everyone loses money by becoming a trader. But, why don't we combine the two?
Because this is the choice that I think is the wisest. In any case we know that trading and investing is a choice but when looking at the current situation is sometimes the word trading is too considered easy by some people including beginners as if it becomes something that anyone can do to get easy profits. Indeed, trading can be done by anyone but not everyone can make a profit from trading even the ratio is only 1 person out of several people who trade is definitely profitable.
Investing is a situation that most anyone can do even though it is not as easy as imagined too but when saving money and continuing to do the right way (investment) then at least the risk we have is slightly smaller than the risk we receive when trading. At least we will not lose our investment even if there is a crash because what decreases is only the value of fiat not the amount we invested.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: BabyBandit on December 04, 2023, 04:14:06 AM
You can do both, I never understand people that think you only can choose one option. Long term holding is good and also it's P2P trading to increase your crypto currencies. I would never settle down with just one.  ;)
Agree. Why we must choose 1 option if we can do both, right? It is very possible to trade while investing in Bitcoin. I also do this although I don't trade everyday. I divide my funds into 2 parts, some of my funds for buying Bitcoin for a long term investment and the rest of the funds for trading. I have no problem with this way. I even can add more my Bitcoin asset whenever I got profits from trading. The profits got from trading, to buy more Bitcoin for a long term holding. Sometimes, some of the profits to convert to fiats and I spend the profits for buying goods as well. So, while we invest in Bitcoin, we also can enjoy profits from trading at the same time.  ;)

Smart idea to divide it into two, I do more or less the same  :) Cheers for a good tactic!
And also if you ain't super rich, trading can increase your total Bitcoin volume! So if you gonna hold long term, trading up your volume is a no-brainer?!


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: R100K-Martin-Lunger on December 04, 2023, 09:47:45 AM
this must not be go against each other because both are profiteering depend  in our choices and timing ,
some wanted to trade while some needs to hold.

Trading - Riskier but worth the effort once succeed.

HODL - safer,cheaper but needs long time to see your profit.


now decide for your own , depending on how you needed and how you wanted the product.

But me personally? I am into Holding because Am not a good trader as I mostly missed the opportunity so sell when the right time comes.

This is a good point. I think it depends on your investment appetite. For me personally, I think a combination of the 2 is the way to go. Hodling bitcoins and at the same time trade Altcoins to increase possible profits is the best way to go. It’s a way to maximize your profits.
And OP there are ways to judge when to sell, while monitoring the market, personally I rebalance my portfolio and I’ve seen success. Having someone experienced to guide you I think is really integral.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: alankasman on December 04, 2023, 05:49:17 PM
Hodling vs trading

Don't forget to keep your keys safe 😁
Holding now with market price conditions is ahead of the trader.

From various factors, holding will always be in a winning position compared to traders. Traders only earn when active trades are made. Requires many opportunities to be utilized continuously at any time. Wanting to store funds or assets on an exchange is wrong in the context of security. Wanting to make a profit for the long term is still risky.

Holding is the best way for long-term profit goals.
Yes. It is very important to keep the key for safety.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: gabbie2010 on December 04, 2023, 08:15:02 PM
Bitcoin hoarding and trading differ in their approach to owning and using coins. Hodling is the holding of bitcoins in a wallet on a long-term basis without frequent transactions. Trading involves frequent buying and selling transactions based on short-term price changes. Hodling provides benefits in terms of ease of use, low transaction costs, long-term benefits and security. The choice between hodling and trading depends on the investor's preferences and strategy. Everything is purely individual, I think whoever has positive experience in a particular strategy stays there.
We should always go for the one we can do not trying to be holding and trading at the same time when we don't know how to trade.
The market is big enough with a lots of crypto projects we can buy and hold for as long as we want.
There is gain in holdings especially when we have good and volatile tokens in our wallet waiting for them to explore and keep increasing in price. The Crypto market is open to us and we can make huge profits depending on the risks we are taking and how much we are investing in the projects we have confidence in.
To be honest, not all cryptocurrencies are worth being held for the long term and most of them are extremely volatile and unpredictable and aren't suitable for this which is the reason why altcoins are generally used just for short or medium-term trading and not for long-term holding like Bitcoin. There are only a few altcoins that can be trusted to be held for a long time, ETH is one example of that which is the second largest and most successful cryptocurrency in the market.

It is also not necessary for a person to just do one of the two as one can always do both holding and trading since it isn't that difficult to learn the necessary trading practices and get into trading while you are already holding some of your assets like Bitcoin and ETH or a few more altcoins that you think have the potential to provide good returns in the long run.
That is why investors has to diligently research on short, medium and long term altcoins for hodling as a form of investment, if it is a short term then memecoins fit this category once it price pump investors are expected to take profit quickly, but for long term perspective Bitcoin and Ethereum is the best meanwhile trading Bitcoin or Ethereum and any other crypto pair is entirely a different ball game as a trader you are expected to earn profit either in a bullish or bearish market thus this requires a lot of experience and expertise to be able to succeed in trading however this comes with a heavy price of learning for a very long period of time before such a trader can start earning profit consistently.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: bayu7adi on December 05, 2023, 03:58:49 AM
This is a good point. I think it depends on your investment appetite. For me personally, I think a combination of the 2 is the way to go. Hodling bitcoins and at the same time trade Altcoins to increase possible profits is the best way to go. It’s a way to maximize your profits.
And OP there are ways to judge when to sell, while monitoring the market, personally I rebalance my portfolio and I’ve seen success. Having someone experienced to guide you I think is really integral.

The main point is to be prepared for the worst case scenario that can happen at any time. While improving your approach to seizing opportunities is good, it's crucial to acknowledge the potential downsides of both trading and hodling. I believe hodling BTC or assets with strong fundamentals shouldn't pose significant problems. However, trading altcoins with higher volatility than BTC comes with considerable risks. I recommend having a backup plan in case trading doesn't go according to the initial plan.

For both approaches, it's better to set aside an emergency fund first. No one wants to sell assets in desperate situations, and doing so might result in a loss if the market price is below the buying price. It's better to hold on a bit longer, using the emergency fund to secure all the assets invested, at least until the right selling moment arrives.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Litzki1990 on December 05, 2023, 04:12:26 AM
Holding is usually done with long term planning and hoping for big profit clubs while trading is done with short term planning and small amount of profit. You can compare trading with a real business, in real business, as a business is to buy products at a low price and sell them at a high price, a trader's job is to buy a currency at a low price and sell it at a relatively high price. Coin selection is usually very important when it comes to trading and holding, most holders take bitcoins to hold because they are holding for a long time so holding on to a trusted coin is definitely important. Most of those who trade hold, those who can afford to hold and trade. In the case of trading, it is possible to gain a relatively large amount of money if the person trades with a large amount of money and understands the market at the right time.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Liquid71 on December 05, 2023, 06:37:04 AM
Trade with a small very small part of your coins, keeps it interesting and you will make big gains if you are good and patient.

Nobody ever made a mistake hodl bitcoin, mistake is always selling.

So your real question is I have a guaranteed winning trade, should I risk losing money in an attempt to make even more? Answer to that depends on your situation financially and skill as a trader. Sincere advice whatever your situation is, hodl at least 50% and even that is risky. Nothing better than a sure thing, and bitcoin appreciating vs. fiat is a sure thing. 


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: Ben Barubal on December 05, 2023, 07:05:48 AM
  These two are equally helpful to us, since we need profit most of the time trading can help us in this situation. Today, long-term holdings are becoming equal to our future savings.

  So, that means, if in day trading we are getting daily profit, at the same time there is also savings waiting for us in the future, so it is like a double blade that we have been able to accumulate our earnings this time.


Title: Re: Hodling vs trading
Post by: EarnOnVictor on December 05, 2023, 09:37:56 AM
Obviously holders have a long time preference and traders are trying to get rich quick. The crazy thing is that even knowing Bitcoin is the greatest performing asset in human history, people still want to trade it instead of holding it. Even with all the billionaires holding has created and all the people who lost everything trading, people still think they’re going to trade themselves to wealth, missing out on doing so by not holding.
You are right OgNasty, but how about those traders that are very good at trading? Some are making fortune from trading only, I know like two brothers who are living the dream because of trading, I know that majority of traders are not professionals but some are really doing so well with trading.

I accept that holding is the best thing to do in crypto space, it erase the exposure of risks everyday trading and losing part of your assets, and it's very straight forward, just find a way to survive for long you will do really well, but people somehow prefer earning some money per day, even if it's very low in value they seem to prefer it to holding for longterm.


I still favor investors over trading because I am also an investor. But it cannot be denied that there are many people who are making money every day from trading and can change their lives through trading. I don't remember the exact names but even on our forum there are some people who have confirmed their daily income comes from trading and they are doing very well with it. Trading is risky and not suitable for many people, but that doesn't mean everyone loses money by becoming a trader. But, why don't we combine the two?
There is this popular saying that you should "cut your clothes according to the clothes." This makes me appreciate your resolve, you are not such overzealous people who will just be venturing into what they do not know or have the mind for, and start losing money. Bitcoin earnings could primarily come through investment and trading, and it's obvious that trading is riskier than investment. Although none of the two is without risks and the risk in investment could be scary at times if the investor doesn't understand the investment properly. Imagine that he bought Bitcoin based on a friend's advice at about $60,000 price with $100,000. The remaining amount in the person's account would only be worth about $25,000 in November last year. Isn't that scary enough? So, none of them is without risks, which is why I will continue to implore everyone to know when to buy and sell at the right time and for the right reasons to be able to earn in investments.

While for trading, it's way more risky for short-term and big risk-takers. It is not for everybody and I know that it would be fine if we are careful about it when we do not have the guts for it or when we have been losing consistently in it. But as risky as trading is, it's worth saying also that it is capable of earning for traders more than investment. The choice lies solely with us, but for me, I engage in the two to maximize my earning potential in Bitcoin.