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October 12, 2023, 12:53:35 PM
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There is nothing wrong in holding and trading, and both is possible if you have the right skills, holding can be a mess if you are a bad trader and it can affect your holding, it's safer to choose one but it's possible to be in both.

You will make more money in holding than trading but people do like and prefer passive income so that they can live on it every day, but I don't believe much in passive income compared to long-term investment, I don't want to know how professional you are at trading, if you have invested in Bitcoin at $100 you will make biggest money today holding your bags, compare to trading, because with trading comes some risks, there will be wrong callings and you will lose money.

Buy Bitcoin and get a hardware wallet to store them, go back to your life and live on your normal salary, you will be a big fella in the future and many will question your source of income, because they don't just understand what you did while they are busy looking for fast money.
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October 12, 2023, 01:15:49 PM
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You will make more money in holding than trading but people do like and prefer passive income so that they can live on it every day, but I don't believe much in passive income compared to long-term investment, I don't want to know how professional you are at trading, if you have invested in Bitcoin at $100 you will make biggest money today holding your bags, compare to trading, because with trading comes some risks, there will be wrong callings and you will lose money.

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I also believe that holding will bring better returns than trading, but because people are so impatient, they turn to trading, especially futures trading. But most will get disastrous results, but the sadder thing is that many people still don't realize it, many people still rush into futures trading in the hope of making quick profits with huge leverage.

As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.



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October 12, 2023, 02:28:09 PM
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Hodling and trading has always been a debate in the Bitcoin crypto space.Are they different? Of course yes.Hodling is a term used to describe owning Bitcoin in a wallet especially for a long period of time.While trading on the other hand refers to the selling and buying of Bitcoin through an exchange.
 Both Hodling and trading have some similarities such as ;

1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.
3. Both require you to understand how to secure your coins to avoid hacks or loss of funds.

Nevertheless, despite these similarities hodling and trading are also distinct this is due to the fact that hodling is usually long termed ( hodling appreciates better during long term.) however trading returns come from short term fluctuations in the price of Bitcoin.Due to the uniqueness of Bitcoin,some  persons tend to choose hodling over trading due to some advantages such as;

1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)

2. Transaction Costs ; Hodling comes with a lower transaction cost which is from depositing the Bitcoin in your wallet. However trading incures cost due to frequent transactions especially when the network is congested.

3. Long-Term  Gains ;Over time Bitcoin  has shown promising potential in it's price.Hodling  helps you benefit from the long term potential of Which in most cases appreciates better than little price gains from trading.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
 
With all these being  said it is important to note that hodling shitcoin is not advisable due to their exponentially high volatility which may lead to severe loss if not properly managed.
Trading and hodling is always a choice as they indirectly serve as balance to the Bitcoin ecosystem.

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Good piece. Anyways Hodling is okay as we all know, hodling can be liken to spot trading while the other trading you’re trying to talk about can be liken to futures trading.

You just have to be smart when it comes to trading because of the risk attached to it and as for the newbie I will suggest copy trading in order to copy trade from professionals so as to avoid running into loss, newbies can also opt in for the bot trading feature, it’s available on Bitget and other prominent exchanges.
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October 12, 2023, 03:18:41 PM
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As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.
IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.

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October 12, 2023, 03:58:53 PM
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There is nothing wrong in holding and trading, and both is possible if you have the right skills, holding can be a mess if you are a bad trader and it can affect your holding, it's safer to choose one but it's possible to be in both.

You will make more money in holding than trading but people do like and prefer passive income so that they can live on it every day, but I don't believe much in passive income compared to long-term investment, I don't want to know how professional you are at trading, if you have invested in Bitcoin at $100 you will make biggest money today holding your bags, compare to trading, because with trading comes some risks, there will be wrong callings and you will lose money.

Buy Bitcoin and get a hardware wallet to store them, go back to your life and live on your normal salary, you will be a big fella in the future and many will question your source of income, because they don't just understand what you did while they are busy looking for fast money.
Okay, lets not get too cocky. Holding has its benefits, and if you acquired Bitcoin around $100, you're good. Oh, come on! Not just buying and forgetting. Passion, believing in Bitcoin's future, and appreciating trading's exhilarating roller coaster are key. Some find trading's excitement and daily labor addictive. Its life

Dont believe in passive income? Fair enough. Some need that daily intake to survive. Remember that trading takes talent, intelligence, and a solid market pulse. I agree that holding has long-term benefits. The issue? Thinking one-size-fits-all. It doesnt. Everyone has a plan and trip.

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October 12, 2023, 04:06:44 PM
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Good piece. Anyways Hodling is okay as we all know, hodling can be liken to spot trading while the other trading you’re trying to talk about can be liken to futures trading.

You just have to be smart when it comes to trading because of the risk attached to it and as for the newbie I will suggest copy trading in order to copy trade from professionals so as to avoid running into loss, newbies can also opt in for the bot trading feature, it’s available on Bitget and other prominent exchanges.
Both holding and trading are each person's choice, but imo holding is more relaxing than trading, when discussing profits, the results of both can vary greatly. Anyway, you mentioned copy trading here, to be honest, i don't really recommend it because there are many things that you must fulfill in order to implement copy trading well, it would be much better if you studied hard and mastered trading itself rather than depending on copy-trading.

IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.
yep hodling or trading has different benefits and different people have different choices, people who understand trading will definitely choose trading which is much better than holding while people who really prefer calm prefer to be a holder rather than trading, that's all choices and results also cannot be equalized.

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October 12, 2023, 05:32:43 PM
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As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.
IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.
Holding is much better than trading will not get any pressure unless you are patient.
Trading is full of risks, you will use mental and mind in a trade even need a psychologist to see your thoughts that sometimes become stressful, emotional, greedy which in the end more loss than income.
So far focusing more on holding I will keep lamenting the market movement and see what happens while continuing to make purchases with the DCA method.

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October 12, 2023, 10:39:10 PM
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If you are thinking of the safest way for you to have future savings, holdings are appropriate here, and if you want to earn in the short term, daily trading is the right thing to do to carry out the activity you want to do in this field. .  Although they can give you the same help to get profit, you will only be better able to hone your trading skills because the experience is different from when you are just studying the crypto field industry in this business.

Although the level of risk is actually higher in trading compared to holdings, even though we know that it is not that easy to really understand, while you are also studying the trading or crypto space, you are simultaneously carrying out the trading activity compared to holdings, so you are just learning that nothing is actually happening in the market.


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October 12, 2023, 10:49:01 PM
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If you don't understand trading, you can buy and hold the coin until the price reaches your selling target price. And you should hold Bitcoin rather than altcoins for the long term. If you want to trade altcoins, it will be even more difficult because you have to find the right coin that can provide profits for you. And that includes if you want to hold altcoins as an investment.
For starters, this is the best option that they can have. If they want to reduce the risk of their investment, Bitcoin is the safest option for them to buy and hold.

Newbies have to understand that there's such risk when they come out and choose other altcoins but they should held themselves accountable for any result of it.

So it all depends on your abilities and skills. If you want to learn about trading and have time to analyze the market, you can try trading. Otherwise, you can invest without having to trade.
This is the good option for all of us, if we don't wanna trade, we can be investors and just switch to being a trader any time. But for someone who doesn't want to do that much effort and don't want to take a lot of pressure from the market, stay in investing.

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October 12, 2023, 10:55:05 PM
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1. Ease ; hodling Bitcoin saves you the stress of understanding marketing strategies and little price fluctuations As you only store the Bitcoin in your wallet without transacting.(successful trading requires constant research and experience)
Ease of holding is a good advantage of holding for long time. The stress of checking the charts always and checking the bitcoin price will not be on you. Not many people know how to read the chart and understand the price movements, so holding for a long time will surely save one the unnecessary stress.

4. Security; Hodling your Bitcoin gives you a better option of making use of offline wallets such as air gapped wallets or hardware wallets,As they deem more secure than online wallets
Yea, if someone is always sending coins forth and back, they will not be able to use effectively the cold wallets. But someone who is holding for a long term will not having the problems of checking the wallets which may expose the wallet to vulnerability.

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As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.
IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.
While comparing the profit that could be generated from either of the aspects to bitcoin or an investment, trading is more profitable than we can say for holding but, it comes at the extent of a huge risk. Risk that could easily drain you of everything and so, you must be really good at trading to get its benefits in full.

Holing has almost zero risk but, you’ve got to ensure your not holding some shitty altcoin but one of real value if you must, an established coin and that be Bitcoin being the most reliable. It comes at a cost of having a good stretch of your patience.

The greater the risk, the bigger the rewards but, based on cases of inexperience,
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1. The use of wallets to store Bitcoin.
2. For both trading or hodling to be possible you must own Bitcoin. Although trading requires a minimum amount of coins, hodling does not.

A wallet is the first thing a holder should always keep in mind before investing in Bitcoin. He can never hold bitcoins without a wallet, a wallet is needed to hold bitcoins. Moreover, a strong and secure wallet is most important if Bitcoins are to be stored and kept safe. Secure and strong wallets for Bitcoin are using hardware wallets like Electrum and Mycelium. Trading and holding requires either Bitcoin or Cryptocurrency otherwise it would never be possible to do either. First you need to have money then invest or trade in crypto currency. Coins are definitely required for trading, moreover, trading is not possible, that's why first of all you have to own the money, then trading and holding will be possible. Trading is basically a constant profit for many people, and those who are holding invest in Bitcoin and hold it for a long time in the hope of higher profits.

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If you are thinking of the safest way for you to have future savings, holdings are appropriate here, and if you want to earn in the short term, daily trading is the right thing to do to carry out the activity you want to do in this field. .  Although they can give you the same help to get profit, you will only be better able to hone your trading skills because the experience is different from when you are just studying the crypto field industry in this business.

Although the level of risk is actually higher in trading compared to holdings, even though we know that it is not that easy to really understand, while you are also studying the trading or crypto space, you are simultaneously carrying out the trading activity compared to holdings, so you are just learning that nothing is actually happening in the market.
It seems like everything has to be based on our own goal of making money. As you said, if we are preparing for the future then of course being a long-term holder could potentially make us have big profits in the future. But we also have to be prepared for the risks. But if we want to make money in a faster time frame then trading is the most possible. But learning crypto trading strategies is much more difficult than it seems. I personally studied it and didn't understand it properly until now. But after I made a lot of trades, I started to get used to reading market movements. Someone once said that experience is the best teacher. And I think that's true. Because I learned far more from some of my recent experiences in trading than I did reading from the many trading books that actually made me a little dizzy. And actually being a holder and being a trader can be done at the same time.

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As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.
IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.
While comparing the profit that could be generated from either of the aspects to bitcoin or an investment, trading is more profitable than we can say for holding but, it comes at the extent of a huge risk. Risk that could easily drain you of everything and so, you must be really good at trading to get its benefits in full.

Holing has almost zero risk but, you’ve got to ensure your not holding some shitty altcoin but one of real value if you must, an established coin and that be Bitcoin being the most reliable. It comes at a cost of having a good stretch of your patience.

The greater the risk, the bigger the rewards but, based on cases of inexperience,
Your better off holding without an experience than trading without any experience.

In theory, it is true that trading not only produces quick profits but can also yield larger profits than holding, but in reality, most trading only results in losses due to the volatility of the market is unpredictable. To be able to make money from trading, of course, we need to be really good, it's easy to say, but has anyone done it? Is there anyone who is really good at trading and claims that they became rich through trading?  Honest, I haven't seen anyone do that.

I think if we do not have experience and knowledge, holding or trading will lead to losses, there will be no difference when we do not have knowledge and experience.



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It seems like everything has to be based on our own goal of making money. As you said, if we are preparing for the future then of course being a long-term holder could potentially make us have big profits in the future. But we also have to be prepared for the risks.
You can not hold your bitcoin if you don't store it in good wallets. Assume you store your coins on centralized exchanges, it's not like holding but you are speculating Bitcoin will pump tomorrow, any time and you want to be always ready for selling it after a few seconds. However, the risk to store coins in online accounts is very big and if you can wait like 10 to 20 minutes, for 1 or 2 confirmations of a deposit, you will be safer by storing your bitcoins in your wallet.

It does not need to store your coins on centralized exchanges some months just to save a few minutes of waiting. Convenience is not actually big but risk is huge.

Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts

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As we have seen, we have seen many people become rich through bitcoin, most of them are long term holders, I have not seen anyone become rich through day trading or futures trading with bitcoin. That is the clearest evidence of holding an edge over trading.
IMO, Holding will always win from many sides compared to trading.
Long-term holders really enjoy prices and market conditions that occur. Regarding the benefits gained also differs much from the benefits gained through trade and can be proven and has often been proven that is recognized by trade actors.
We can never see traders become rich from Bitcoin trading because they are not using this in the first place, they use altcoins instead.
Well, we can say that holding Bitcoin always wins from many sides but if we talk about altcoins, that seems impossible. The results from holding and trading vary from the coins we use. Some coins are good for trading like highly volatile coins but in terms of holding long-term, Bitcoin is the best choice. And aside from that, it also depends on your strategies and the way you manage your investment or trades in a critical situation.

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October 13, 2023, 08:20:53 AM
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- I think Holding and Trading also depend on whether you have the money to spare or not. It's about what level of profit you want to achieve in the future and how quickly.
- Many people initially decide to be holders, but when the market becomes too volatile, they end up selling and becoming traders. The boundary between Holding and Trading is indeed fragile if your emotions are easily swayed.
- For me, I separate it into two distinct accounts: one for holding that I never touch, and one for trading. They are completely separate.

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October 13, 2023, 09:27:12 AM
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Im newbie in bitcointalk but i have little bit knowledge in trading although i trade from last 2years.
In my point of view holding is best for new user who
wants to trade.after gather enough knowledge then start trading in small step.
Keep focus and stay calm even trade goes to loss.
Never take quick discission.
And more important thing should not trade
any coin without research.
I think safety first.
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October 13, 2023, 11:49:18 AM
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Holding is much better than trading will not get any pressure unless you are patient.
Bitcoin is the best choice to hold by people who have patience and is not suitable as a trading option.

Trading is full of risks, you will use mental and mind in a trade even need a psychologist to see your thoughts that sometimes become stressful, emotional, greedy which in the end more loss than income.
It takes a lot of time to monitor market price movements apart from all the existing reasons. For me, monitoring market movements at all times is boring. Many large investors choose to hold bitcoin for a long period of time and do not pay attention to market conditions at all times as is required by people who choose to trade bitcoin.

So far focusing more on holding I will keep lamenting the market movement and see what happens while continuing to make purchases with the DCA method.
For me it was the right choice in expecting profits and applying the DCA method to every purchase. IMO, the DCA method is still very relevant.

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October 13, 2023, 10:00:39 PM
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- I think Holding and Trading also depend on whether you have the money to spare or not. It's about what level of profit you want to achieve in the future and how quickly.
- Many people initially decide to be holders, but when the market becomes too volatile, they end up selling and becoming traders. The boundary between Holding and Trading is indeed fragile if your emotions are easily swayed.
- For me, I separate it into two distinct accounts: one for holding that I never touch, and one for trading. They are completely separate.

That is without a doubt an approach that you can take with the markets, but either one of those disciplines is already hard enough, to be able to perform both of them at the same time and to avoid making mistakes is probably beyond what most of the market participants can do, so they are forced to choose one of those options, and for someone like that it is better that at first they elect to become long term holders as it is the option with the smallest amount of risk and it is the easiest to perform out of the two as well.
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