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Title: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: letteredhub on November 02, 2023, 08:29:59 PM
As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.
https://i.ibb.co/ZL1r4YQ/Screenshot-20231102-195805-1.jpg

Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.
https://i.ibb.co/dJXzVbS/Screenshot-20231102-195626-1.jpg


On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
source. (https://bit.ly/3saqSEO?fbclid=IwAR3ocsnKPVyW-OHcB-DkT-Z3oOxVRQtMWpQWMeYo0Qx-Un3IqzTMcX0ZjLA)


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Hispo on November 02, 2023, 09:02:27 PM
This is something I have also noticed and not only in the context of gambling and sportbetting, on the internet and specially in western countries, there are people who have a very strange attitude of entitlement for pretty much anything others have gotten by either saving and working hard or because of gambling as this case.
I agree with you in this matter, by the way. The winning got for each one of us and each gambler is solely of their property and no one is in place to judge them for the tips or shares that fortunate person decided to give to one person.

Perhaps, that kind of person believes all of us are supposed to be 100% given to charity, which is unreal, if someone who hit such a high multiplier then decided to even give me a 5%, I would just try to be grateful, thank them and then move on with that money.
This will not be the last time we see stories like this one, that is for sure.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: rhomelmabini on November 02, 2023, 09:07:54 PM
IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
What a shame they only got a penny it should have been the overall winnings to be given to that guy so that he won't talk. I don't think you're part of that luck in the first place that you are entitled to be given some charity. The thing with people who are ungrateful is that no matter you gave or not they still have something to say.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Spaceman1000$ on November 02, 2023, 09:09:51 PM
As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.
https://i.ibb.co/ZL1r4YQ/Screenshot-20231102-195805-1.jpg

Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.
https://i.ibb.co/dJXzVbS/Screenshot-20231102-195626-1.jpg


On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
source. (https://bit.ly/3saqSEO?fbclid=IwAR3ocsnKPVyW-OHcB-DkT-Z3oOxVRQtMWpQWMeYo0Qx-Un3IqzTMcX0ZjLA)

There is a high sense of entitlement individuals especially those of them on social media have, Imagine a situation where the winner giving somebody out of his own magnanimity a sum of 100k and at the end of the day people begin to lambast the winner, telling him that he will have given more, how much more will he had given that would have been enough. Social media is breeding people with a high level of entitlement, what if he hadn't given him a dime, what would they have done.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Westinhome on November 02, 2023, 09:16:18 PM
This is something I have also noticed and not only in the context of gambling and sportbetting, on the internet and specially in western countries, there are people who have a very strange attitude of entitlement for pretty much anything others have gotten by either saving and working hard or because of gambling as this case.
I agree with you in this matter, by the way. The winning got for each one of us and each gambler is solely of their property and no one is in place to judge them for the tips or shares that fortunate person decided to give to one person.

Perhaps, that kind of person believes all of us are supposed to be 100% given to charity, which is unreal, if someone who hit such a high multiplier than decided to even give me a 5%, I would just try to be grateful, thank them and then move on with that money.
This will not be the last time we see stories like this one, that is for sure.

If the gambler had mad the win of 1000$,probably he may do the donation of the 50-100$ maximum to the charity.So it’s like 5-10 percentage of their total earning from the gambling win.The gambling style of the western and rest of the nation was totally different.Because they had their own approach to the gambling and casino.They ready to give the 100 percentage of the winning to the charity.But this was not done by the rest of the country gambler.The main reason behind this was the western gambler doesn’t need any money.They will do the gambling only for the entertainment.And claiming the other winning money is not the good way by the gamblers friends.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Wiwo on November 02, 2023, 09:26:07 PM
Most of those news coming from this legit new outlet are fake but that not withstanding since we can still learn one or two lessons from the discussions,  because the topic is most appropriate at this point in time,  since gambling is something that comes with some form of unexpected outcome such as in form of jackpot winning like the case with the ops,  it make more sense to make sure we protect our privacy at all time,  because hard it been that the gsmbker in question just gamble online,  he won't get called out for such because no body will know about the wining unless those he be tell at some point.

This is a high risk situation for the gamblers because he already get called out on social media which will further expose him to ore extortion from those around him,  but what the contribution of the guy that is calling him. Out for sending 100k in the winnings of the 15 million.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Vaculin on November 02, 2023, 09:27:01 PM
As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.
https://i.ibb.co/ZL1r4YQ/Screenshot-20231102-195805-1.jpg

Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.
https://i.ibb.co/dJXzVbS/Screenshot-20231102-195626-1.jpg


On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
source. (https://bit.ly/3saqSEO?fbclid=IwAR3ocsnKPVyW-OHcB-DkT-Z3oOxVRQtMWpQWMeYo0Qx-Un3IqzTMcX0ZjLA)

It's like taking a loan and when it's granted, its like you are required to treat the people around. It's really a nonsense attitude.

Gambling is not an exception. A lot of winning gamblers  are actually showing their generosity by giving other gamblers a good amount which serves as their "balato". Although its not bad as long as you are doing it with goodwill, but to be honest let's just cut this attitude because we are not obliged to do this in the first place. Note that its not easy to win in gambling, and before you win, you are losing a lot first before hitting your luck. So if you analyze it carefully, you are just gaining back the money that you have lost. If you decide to give, its like you are making a charity event, you give without asking for return.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Hispo on November 02, 2023, 09:28:45 PM
This is something I have also noticed and not only in the context of gambling and sportbetting, on the internet and specially in western countries, there are people who have a very strange attitude of entitlement for pretty much anything others have gotten by either saving and working hard or because of gambling as this case.
I agree with you in this matter, by the way. The winning got for each one of us and each gambler is solely of their property and no one is in place to judge them for the tips or shares that fortunate person decided to give to one person.

Perhaps, that kind of person believes all of us are supposed to be 100% given to charity, which is unreal, if someone who hit such a high multiplier than decided to even give me a 5%, I would just try to be grateful, thank them and then move on with that money.
This will not be the last time we see stories like this one, that is for sure.

If the gambler had mad the win of 1000$,probably he may do the donation of the 50-100$ maximum to the charity.So it’s like 5-10 percentage of their total earning from the gambling win.The gambling style of the western and rest of the nation was totally different.Because they had their own approach to the gambling and casino.They ready to give the 100 percentage of the winning to the charity.But this was not done by the rest of the country gambler.The main reason behind this was the western gambler doesn’t need any money.They will do the gambling only for the entertainment.And claiming the other winning money is not the good way by the gamblers friends.

I am not an expert, but I would are to say giving 100% of ones winnings to charity is rare besides, people on Twitter who are criticizing this fortunate gambler do not keep in their minds that this is a person who gambled 100N, and it is not like other big whales who only gamble for fun because they already are millionaires and stuff like that.
If this was Drake or any other celebrity winning 50k$ on Stake, then one could expect him to give away that completely to their followers, since he has lost a lot more than that on sportbetting alone and that amount is nothing in comparison to what he gets from his career and sponsorships.
This was a normal person whose lucky day finally came in and yet, people do not seem to understand and are not willing to out themselves in the shoes of someone who may have gambled for years with minimal success, and still expect him to give up on more and more...  ::)


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Mahanton on November 02, 2023, 09:38:06 PM
This is something I have also noticed and not only in the context of gambling and sportbetting, on the internet and specially in western countries, there are people who have a very strange attitude of entitlement for pretty much anything others have gotten by either saving and working hard or because of gambling as this case.
I agree with you in this matter, by the way. The winning got for each one of us and each gambler is solely of their property and no one is in place to judge them for the tips or shares that fortunate person decided to give to one person.

Perhaps, that kind of person believes all of us are supposed to be 100% given to charity, which is unreal, if someone who hit such a high multiplier than decided to even give me a 5%, I would just try to be grateful, thank them and then move on with that money.
This will not be the last time we see stories like this one, that is for sure.

If the gambler had mad the win of 1000$,probably he may do the donation of the 50-100$ maximum to the charity.So it’s like 5-10 percentage of their total earning from the gambling win.The gambling style of the western and rest of the nation was totally different.Because they had their own approach to the gambling and casino.They ready to give the 100 percentage of the winning to the charity.But this was not done by the rest of the country gambler.The main reason behind this was the western gambler doesn’t need any money.They will do the gambling only for the entertainment.And claiming the other winning money is not the good way by the gamblers friends.

I am not an expert, but I would are to say giving 100% of ones winnings to charity is rare besides, people on Twitter who are criticizing his fortunate gambler do not keep in their minds that this is a person who gambled 100N, and it is not like other big whales who only gamble for fun because they already are millionaires and stuff like that.
If this was Drake or any other celebrity winning 50k$ on Stake, then one could expect him to give away that completely to their followers, since he has lost a lot more than that on sportbetting alone and that amount is nothing in comparison to what he gets from his career and sponsorships.
This was a normal person whose lucky day finally came in and yet, people do not seem to understand and are not willing to out themselves in the shoes of someone who may have gambled for years with minimal success, and still expect him to give up on more and more...  ::)
Dont know if its really that necessary on making those charitable acts or sharing up if ever you do win big? Its someones money and if he do able to win up then its their full rights on what they should gonna do with it.
Neither he would really be having plans on sharing it up or would really be that basically be keeping for himself considering that he's still that break even after all the years that hed been doing gambling.
Its not really that shocking that people around dwould really be always have something to say on which its never been that something new anymore. People do really love to judge,
people do really love to make out some sayings, people do really love to make some issues, people do really love on assuming things which they dont really even know on whats their situation behind.
In overall, its better to ignore about this stuff all the way.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Fortify on November 02, 2023, 09:38:18 PM
As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.

Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.

On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Jealousy between different people is a story as old as humanity itself and is never going to change. There is even good recommendation that if by some miracle you were to win a huge amount on something like the lottery, that you do not share that even with family, as it can heavily affect your relationship due to the sense of entitlement that you talk about. The best thing you can do as a casual observer of it is to discourage it and then simply ignore the kind of people who would beg for money. Also, you must not forget that writers love to generate controversy when writing articles like this because it acts as clickbait and draws in a lot more viewers, so they can even imagine such angles out of thin air.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Docnaster on November 02, 2023, 09:40:26 PM
Most of those news coming from this legit new outlet are fake but that not withstanding since we can still learn one or two lessons from the discussions,  because the topic is most appropriate at this point in time,  since gambling is something that comes with some form of unexpected outcome such as in form of jackpot winning like the case with the ops,  it make more sense to make sure we protect our privacy at all time,  because hard it been that the gsmbker in question just gamble online,  he won't get called out for such because no body will know about the wining unless those he be tell at some point.

This is a high risk situation for the gamblers because he already get called out on social media which will further expose him to ore extortion from those around him,  but what the contribution of the guy that is calling him. Out for sending 100k in the winnings of the 15 million.
Entitlement begats excessive expectations and excessive expectations when not met brings absolute envy which is likely to make the entitled person to want to anything within his reach to bring down the concerned person.
When a gambler gets massive winning, there are a lot of people who do think that it's their right to receive a certain amount of money from the winning and when their expectation aren't met, they become too bittered which absolutely evil. For the gambler to stake his gamble with his own money, it's his right to give or not give to anyone he wants to give regardless of how huge his winning is. So calling someone who gave you free 100k because he win 15 million is bad and should be condemned.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Bananington on November 02, 2023, 09:44:22 PM
People can start feeling entitled when you give them the benefit of some kind of relationship with you, but it is very wrong. Feeling entitled to someone else money is immature. The person we are discussing even did well to appreciative in currency, some people will only tell you "thank you", and they expect you should be okay with that, but that is also not good. Some of the people who feel the most entitled and are quick to share money in their head when it is not theirs are people who will be slow to share and give out money when it is their turn. Dissociate yourself from anyone who you notice has the entitlement mentality.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Wiwo on November 02, 2023, 09:49:18 PM
Most of those news coming from this legit new outlet are fake but that not withstanding since we can still learn one or two lessons from the discussions,  because the topic is most appropriate at this point in time,  since gambling is something that comes with some form of unexpected outcome such as in form of jackpot winning like the case with the ops,  it make more sense to make sure we protect our privacy at all time,  because hard it been that the gsmbker in question just gamble online,  he won't get called out for such because no body will know about the wining unless those he be tell at some point.

This is a high risk situation for the gamblers because he already get called out on social media which will further expose him to ore extortion from those around him,  but what the contribution of the guy that is calling him. Out for sending 100k in the winnings of the 15 million.
Entitlement begats excessive expectations and excessive expectations when not met brings absolute envy which is likely to make the entitled person to want to anything within his reach to bring down the concerned person.
When a gambler gets massive winning, there are a lot of people who do think that it's their right to receive a certain amount of money from the winning and when their expectation aren't met, they become too bittered which absolutely evil. For the gambler to stake his gamble with his own money, it's his right to give or not give to anyone he wants to give regardless of how huge his winning is. So calling someone who gave you free 100k because he won 15 million is bad and should be condemned.
You are very correct and doing that has made matters worst for that victim of exclusively entire entitlement from folks who won't just man up and look away from other people's luck and results,  the thing is that,  since you don't share in their losses why should you be entitled to anything from their winnings this is the aspect and side of the whole thing that I still find hard to understand in all of this things because the 15 million doesn't just come,  the winners may have had a long history of loses also in the past before hitting this big win this time and at that should be allowed to enjoy his bounty in peace without interference.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on November 02, 2023, 09:53:05 PM
Uhmm... It was really challenging for that dude... honestly.
I don't see why peeps become so insensible that they can't figure out what risk to take when gambling...and how risky it is to wager any amount, be it cash or crypto...
The man did well to have given him a hundred thousand... I would simply walk him off to have a drink...if that isn't enough, I'll let him cook.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: EL MOHA on November 02, 2023, 09:59:35 PM
I am not an expert, but I would are to say giving 100% of ones winnings to charity is rare besides, people on Twitter who are criticizing his fortunate gambler do not keep in their minds that this is a person who gambled 100N, and it is not like other big whales who only gamble for fun because they already are millionaires and stuff like that.

The OP didn’t broaden what actually transpired well, according to what I read on X was that the person he gifted the 100k after winning was actually the person that helped in predicting the game for him or maybe one of those punters that show up they Game and the eventual winner actually went ahead and played that particular game and he won, and his heart of generosity (because I see it as such) he gifted the other punter that amount which causes the fuss by others who thought he should have given more.

For me I don’t see it that way, he didn’t had an agreement to drop a certain amount of money should he win but rather he went ahead to gamble his own money, had he lost would the other punter have compensated him?, this to me is similar to someone discussing a business with you and how it will yield profit and you went ahead to invest in that business with either your money or loan business, I don’t think this person will point hands at you if you gift him anything later because it was never his entitlement.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Obim34 on November 02, 2023, 10:04:09 PM
People can start feeling entitled when you give them the benefit of some kind of relationship with you, but it is very wrong. Feeling entitled to someone else money is immature. The person we are discussing even did well to appreciative in currency, some people will only tell you "thank you", and they expect you should be okay with that, but that is also not good. Some of the people who feel the most entitled and are quick to share money in their head when it is not theirs are people who will be slow to share and give out money when it is their turn. Dissociate yourself from anyone who you notice has the entitlement mentality.
Like from the post here, we never knew the relationship and what transpired  between the both people. Judging from the recent view we can say it's very ill of him to act in this manner and even display it publicly. I think the other guy was even warm hearted to give him such amount of money and him still demanding more is a No and corny behavior, he should definitely work on his self discipline


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: ultrloa on November 02, 2023, 10:07:08 PM
It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
source. (https://bit.ly/3saqSEO?fbclid=IwAR3ocsnKPVyW-OHcB-DkT-Z3oOxVRQtMWpQWMeYo0Qx-Un3IqzTMcX0ZjLA)


If I am the winner I will just laugh at them since I don't have any obligation to give a share to those entitled guys on my winnings. They didn't contribute anything so for sure they can't ask more bigger than that since its just part of good will to the winner that he share some small part of his winning. If they can't understand well there's a problem with their attitude and the winner shouldn't add more because he need to secure his self for better future since winning that amount is rare to come to other individual that's why he shouldn't get affected with those call outs since for sure there are to many people understand and appreciate the amount he give.

Self entitlement towards other peoples winning is bad attitude and they should know that they don't have right to dictate those people  who win its because that's not their money, if they also win for sure they do the same so they should not get greedy since nothing will happen to them.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: dothebeats on November 02, 2023, 10:07:57 PM
I am not an expert, but I would are to say giving 100% of ones winnings to charity is rare besides, people on Twitter who are criticizing his fortunate gambler do not keep in their minds that this is a person who gambled 100N, and it is not like other big whales who only gamble for fun because they already are millionaires and stuff like that.

The OP didn’t broaden what actually transpired well, according to what I read on X was that the person he gifted the 100k after winning was actually the person that helped in predicting the game for him or maybe one of those punters that show up they Game and the eventual winner actually went ahead and played that particular game and he won, and his heart of generosity (because I see it as such) he gifted the other punter that amount which causes the fuss by others who thought he should have given more.

For me I don’t see it that way, he didn’t had an agreement to drop a certain amount of money should he win but rather he went ahead to gamble his own money, had he lost would the other punter have compensated him?, this to me is similar to someone discussing a business with you and how it will yield profit and you went ahead to invest in that business with either your money or loan business, I don’t think this person will point hands at you if you gift him anything later because it was never his entitlement.

Also, if the punter gave him that pick, or sure, he himself also got that pick and won something. This is what people are missing: these guys don't give out picks and not pick it themselves. Also, if the punter himself did not ask for anything in return and still got something out of that lucky pick, why would other people be mad on his behalf? I sometimes don't understand the entitlement people has in today's day and age. That money the winner used to bet came from his funds and not the punter's, and so even with the pick, if there's no money to risk, there's never a money to be made.

Or even if the punter did ask for something, why would he if he knows that pick will win? Why did he not bet on it and reap the rewards himself? ::)


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Wexnident on November 02, 2023, 10:26:30 PM
Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.
"too small" Jesus christ people are rather entitled sometimes. From what I've seen from other posts it was told that said punter was the reason for the win but in the end, it's not like they had a contract/agreement for said bet and the money should've come from the person themselves, not the punter. That N100k should be more than enough as a show of appreciation imo since there could've been nothing instead really. Now this ain't nothing new, but it's like asking the lottery winner to give you 1/10 of the prize money because you "contributed" one of the numbers when asked earlier (sometimes I know people who ask others a number or two for their lotteries). Kinda dumb if you think about it like that.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: serjent05 on November 02, 2023, 10:37:09 PM
If someone posts a thing on social media, it is expected that it will cater to different opinions.  Mostly people who want to troll can make an unpleasant sarcastic reply while others are just telling their genuine thouhgt.  If a person does not want to be on the hot spot, learn to hold oneself and never post anything online.  This way people won't have a chance to troll, flame, praise, or agree with your posts.

Besides giving something to people, may it be a tip or not, we should not brag about it on online platforms.

If I am the winner I will just laugh at them since I don't have any obligation to give a share to those entitled guys on my winnings. They didn't contribute anything so for sure they can't ask more bigger than that since its just part of good will to the winner that he share some small part of his winning. If they can't understand well there's a problem with their attitude and the winner shouldn't add more because he need to secure his self for better future since winning that amount is rare to come to other individual that's why he shouldn't get affected with those call outs since for sure there are to many people understand and appreciate the amount he give.

Self entitlement towards other peoples winning is bad attitude and they should know that they don't have right to dictate those people  who win its because that's not their money, if they also win for sure they do the same so they should not get greedy since nothing will happen to them.

If they helped me to win a huge amount then I would give them at least 25% of the winnings but if they do nothing and I just feel to be generous, I would just give them a small amount, and in this case of winning $16k  I would tip them around 0.1% which is equivalent to $16.  That is already big money in my country and being able to treat two to three people to some fast food.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Text on November 02, 2023, 10:43:17 PM
Many people on social media really love to meddle even if they don't contribute anything. They just make noise to get attention, surpassing even the punter, just feeling entitled. A person who has won has no obligation to share their winnings with others, no matter how big it is. Giving a gift of that value should be seen as a generous and voluntary act, not an expectation. The critic demanding a higher amount is out of line. The winner should not feel guilty for what he did because it's his decision and his money, and he should enjoy it without pressure.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Wiwo on November 02, 2023, 11:05:51 PM
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Like from the post here, we never knew the relationship and what transpired  between the both people. Judging from the recent view we can say it's very ill of him to act in this manner and even display it publicly. I think the other guy was even warm hearted to give him such amount of money and him still demanding more is a No and corny behavior, he should definitely work on his self-discipline
Yeah, I also thought of that,  and at some point, I want to believe that there is a cordial relationship between them,  the one that won the jackpot and the guy that called him out on x,  the thing is that,  whatever we are doing,  we must have to bear in mind that privacy is key to everything and at every point in time,  we have to make security and privacy our key focus in this industry.

The whole situation is all about entitlement and what have you,  but all triggered by the knowledge of the winning,  so if the guy had played in online casinos,  he wouldn't have been called out in this manner.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Nerdy doctor on November 02, 2023, 11:08:16 PM
Entitlement poisons an individual mind and makes the individual think the goodwill and kindness extended to him is deserving. That has stopped a lot of people from getting helped in any way.
In this case you mentioned, the winner of the bet was kind enough to share his winnings. Very people are kind hearted but it’s entitlement like these make people think of helping people out. If I was the guy who won, after having offered a particular sum and get turned down, I would never give you any money again. If you’re not appreciative, thinking you deserve more, you’ll end up losing a great deal of help from man that may have come your way.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on November 03, 2023, 12:51:57 AM
I'm with you on this. There's no rule whatsoever that requires you to share your gambling winnings with anybody. People should stop expecting too much from the winnings of other people. It's perfectly all right to share whatever you have, but it should be with full willingness and generosity. If you are sharing because you are somehow forced by other people to do it, you better not share. Who are these people anyway? Why should they take a part of what you won?


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: yahoo62278 on November 03, 2023, 04:26:59 AM
As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.
https://i.ibb.co/ZL1r4YQ/Screenshot-20231102-195805-1.jpg

Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.
https://i.ibb.co/dJXzVbS/Screenshot-20231102-195626-1.jpg


On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
source. (https://bit.ly/3saqSEO?fbclid=IwAR3ocsnKPVyW-OHcB-DkT-Z3oOxVRQtMWpQWMeYo0Qx-Un3IqzTMcX0ZjLA)

The gambler didn't have to give anyone a penny, but he decided he would share a little of his win. If I am having a decent session and the site i'm playing on has a rain function, I like to send a little out to chat to try and give myself some good karma and keep the winning alive. The amount that I or any other gambler decides to share is up to us though, noone else has a right or claim to anything.

Lately I have been tipping less as there are so many beggars in a chat, it's almost like a full time job for them to sit there and beg all day.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: electronicash on November 03, 2023, 04:55:43 AM
why did he even gave in the first place when that guy didn't do somehing for him.
those guys doesn't feel shame after earning something they didn't work for. but you could only view it like that ungrateful dude must have been expecting substantial amount after seeing the guy made profitted so much. why he is expecting i'm sure i dont know. the dealers in the casino doesn't even expect from high rollers who wins.  

if i were the guy who gave, i would just say that N100 is what you deserve. but i'm guessing they know each other well and so the other one look down the other.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Nwada001 on November 03, 2023, 04:58:43 AM
It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

Those who think that way must be out of their minds. I saw this post flying around social media, but I didn't pay much attention to it. One thing that people really need to be aware of or think about is, before this person was lucky enough to win this money using little money to place the bet, have they sat down and checked the person's betting record, i.e., his overall betting history, which includes all his winnings and losses with the total money that he has spent on gambling all through his life?
 
If they believe the person who won such an amount from gambling should share it 60/40, then they should be ready to give back to the person who has been losing in gambling all their life at least 40% of everything that they have lost. People are just being so biassed towards a winner in gambling; they got blindfolded based on the result of one winning, not thinking about what the person has gone through. In my opinion, giving out after a win is by choice, and it's not a mandatory thing after all. Assuming the game did not play, no one will help you cry or feel the pains of your loss.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: mvdheuvel1983 on November 03, 2023, 05:00:30 AM
The question I have to ask the punter is that, when they gambler losses does he send back the money used for wagering? If the punter is so good he doesn't need to be in another's man's business. If the punter is so good, he would have also played the gain an still won that huge amount of money too. The punter is just a greedy fellow. If I were him, I would be more happy that I am horning my craft well, I will be all over social media sharing this goodsnews and marketing myself. I will go on to create a telegram channel, where you have to pay to get access to the information -betting tips I share there and some be interested in what some person won and didn't give to me. That is absolutely insane.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: michellee on November 03, 2023, 05:13:34 AM
There is no obligation for a gambler who wins a lot of money to share it with others. It is based on his own conscience. If he wants to share or let's say donate, that's also up to him.

People should also know they should not ask the winner for a small share, especially if they don't know the winner well. But whatever it is, it should not be a burden on the winner that he "Has" to share with others. Don't think too much about it because it's not a big deal.

Do what you want if you are the winner. And if sharing with other people makes you feel comfortable, do it. But if not, don't tell other people about your winnings and keep it to yourself.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Reatim on November 03, 2023, 05:32:10 AM
first congratulations to whom who win this 16k usd , that seems to be a huge winning and he must be very lucky.
though for big time gambler this is a small win but in countries like ours? this is truly huge enough to be thankful.

and lets get back to the commentor

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who cares for this statement? how I wish that he can do better when he is the one who have that win , and besides that is 7 percent of the total win (correct me if im wrong) so how low it is? can the punter gain that for himself? lucky for him that the winner gave Him tip when the truth is there is no obligation and that is just a TIP that coming from own decision.

wondering why people are not growing because of this kind of attitude .


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Jawhead999 on November 03, 2023, 05:47:26 AM
@CleanThing_ must give all of is money to poor people especially people who live in Africa where they lack of clean water and healthy foods, why he can life comfortable when there are many poor people out there?

The point of donation is same like gambling "use amount that you can afford to lose" if the gambler only can afford to lose 1%, there's nothing wrong with that.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: danherbias07 on November 03, 2023, 06:01:52 AM
It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!
These people should start gambling so that they will know how much we lose first before they say this kind of shit to us.
It's not like we gambled for free, it's our money that is on the line and it is also our analysis that made it win and not theirs. I call these people beggars. And I'd rather give it to gamblers who will tip me if ever there comes a time that I am broke than those who will not give me anything in return but just criticism about the money I gave them.
Whatever the amount a gambler gives, appreciate it. At least he is not selfish to share his profits. Those who ask for more are the plagues who don't even realize that it's not their money that was put on the line.

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
source. (https://bit.ly/3saqSEO?fbclid=IwAR3ocsnKPVyW-OHcB-DkT-Z3oOxVRQtMWpQWMeYo0Qx-Un3IqzTMcX0ZjLA)

True!
A gambler will choose if he wants to give or not and in any format and amount that he wants. Some do giveaways thru trivias while others will just rain it down to other gamblers. I like it more when they do trivia, make them work for it. Not like crocodiles with open mouths waiting for their prey.
But like I said, it's a gambler's choice on how he wants to give out the money he won. Some could just stay silent and its totally fine.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Kakmakr on November 03, 2023, 06:02:50 AM
Yes, you see this a lot in the online chat channels, where people quickly congratulate people on their large wins and then the passive begging starts... where these people demand some kind of reward from the winners, because they think the world owe them something.  ::)

People should just accept that not everyone can win big amounts at casinos and when someone wins.. they are not under any obligation to share those winnings. Imagine that you bet a combined total of say $100 000 in a period of a month and then suddenly you win $80 000.... do you think that person is in a profit? So, why should he or she share that win with other people?

Your JACKPOT is yours.... and you decide what you want to do with that... tipping or sharing is your own decision.  >:(


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Eureka_07 on November 03, 2023, 06:27:38 AM
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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money.
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IMO, this kind of behavior has unfortunately become quite common. However, the act of creating posts to "degrade" the winner based on the amount of money shared is really strange. A tip of $100+ is already a generous amount, especially when it's given to individuals who didn't even contribute to the gambling session.

Tipping should always be your choice and not something you're pushed to do. It's perfectly fine not to tip, and it's equally okay to provide any amount as a tip. Don't let these "entitled" individuals pressure you into doing something you don't want to do or more than what you are willing to do.

It's surprising that some people even publicize such actions. Disgusting, isn't it?


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Smartvirus on November 03, 2023, 06:34:55 AM
N15.6m might be a lot of money and even N100k is a whole lot of money as well to have even chose to gift it out from his goodwill. I think the punter out to have been more than happy he or she received such amount.

I don’t know how these guys seem to forget all the manly loses without any form of consolation these gamblers have gone through and had to handle that alone. No one saw that, no one kept tabs on that and no one knows what situation they might have been going through while keeping fate with the process.

He might have won N15.6m but might have lost close to half the amount or so in gambling too. He has paid his dues, let him reap from his many years of sowing. If the punter wasn’t cool with the no deal gift he got, why don’t he return it and be okay with having nothing of it. People could be so ungrateful!


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Crypt0Gore on November 03, 2023, 06:40:02 AM
15.6M can't be $16000 as per the current exchange rate, that's around $13600, do your math very well, the exchange rate is now 1154 per dollar, and it keeps growing up and down at times.

I have seen people pointing gun on a gambler to settle them, something they aren't a part of so I am not surprised, this will serve as a lesson to the gambler that online gambling is way better than visiting any gambling location.

I saw this news two days ago and I was like, why the heck did this man let the news spread this information, in a country that's less secured? Inside of me I was like I can never be in such position, not knowing that something like this will even happen.

This days if people know your worth you are in trouble, they will feel entitled to your money, as if you both sweat for it, stop gambling in a casino, grab your smartphone and gamble online, if you win no one will threaten you or feel entitled to your money, also no one will know that you are into gambling.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Gozie51 on November 03, 2023, 06:56:02 AM
There is nothing much to this. It is a usual practice in offline gambling house that when a gambler wins some money, he usually give out some money to those around when he came to cash it out or send some money to people/friends who are aware of the winning but are not around. Sometimes he keeps giving that little money or reserving something for special and close friends who are not around then. So, it is a normal and usual practice and a gambler who wins reasonable money and didn't do that is regarded as stingy, wicked or bad because he most have also partake in someone else's winning. That money is usually regarded as money for drink, therefore it is not abnormal.

However, the amount to give is totally at the discretion of the gambler who won the money and it is left to the punters to evaluate what was given in discussions around them (just like this is happening now that people are evaluating it) because it is not by force abinitio.

What is also given depends on the numbers of people there and the kind of people there whether they are close pals or strangers because people have a way to give to people they know and have personal relationship with and how they give to strangers, so it all depends.

For the amount given on this matter which is 100k from 15million, for me I don't think it is too small. Moreover, that gambler will have other persons he will gift to before having some plans on the money. It is all to the discretion of the giver anyway.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Strongkored on November 03, 2023, 08:25:09 AM
It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!
This is indeed nonsense, even 75:25 is still nonsense because there is no obligation for anyone who succeeds in winning a lot of money from gambling to share it with anyone and if there are gamblers who do it, it is only a personal initiative and cannot be used as a standard rule that all gamblers must do the same thing, People who criticize the gambler only feel jealous and show it through criticism of what the gambler does, for whatever reason no one has the right to the gambler's winnings and how he shares and spends it is the gambler's business, not anyone else's.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on November 03, 2023, 08:33:02 AM
As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.

As you've said, in appreciation for doing nothing, he wishes to give him the money with reasons best known to him, afterall no one forces him against his wish, if we are to also consider the amount involved, it's nothing much that should be a concern, many people have won gambling and refused to give anyone anything, while some also won and spent over half of the money together with others in celebration and fun, we have our decision to make, it's our money and whatever thing we do should be intentional because there will always be a repercussions ahead.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Docnaster on November 03, 2023, 08:37:59 AM
It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!
This is indeed nonsense, even 75:25 is still nonsense because there is no obligation for anyone who succeeds in winning a lot of money from gambling to share it with anyone and if there are gamblers who do it, it is only a personal initiative and cannot be used as a standard rule that all gamblers must do the same thing, People who criticize the gambler only feel jealous and show it through criticism of what the gambler does, for whatever reason no one has the right to the gambler's winnings and how he shares and spends it is the gambler's business, not anyone else's.
The popular demand by most people in gambling houses from anyone who gets massive winning is very disgusting to me because when people comes to the gambling houses and losses their money, they don't get sympathetic refunds from anyone.
I happen to witness an event where a gambler won a huge amount of money in a gambling house and because of the too much request from people around there to share the money he got, he decided not to give anyone a dime from his winning despite all the negative names they were calling him. People can feel entitled to a one's winning but the ability to not give any entitled person anything from the winning I think is a good way to discipline them on that behavior.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Sim_card on November 03, 2023, 08:43:27 AM
Assuming the gambler lost the said amount that he won, will the entitlement guy give the gambler back a little amount of money? People are just ungrateful and fail to understand what generosity means. I don't blame them, they feel because he didn't work hard to make such huge money, and it was luck that did it in a very short time and that is why they feel that it is their right to benefit from it. I only see the gambler as a good person that recognized the fact that he won his bet from that bet shop and chose to give the guy something to buy drink and the guy thinks that it is his right.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Findingnemo on November 03, 2023, 08:47:08 AM
As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.


A donation, charity, and other such works are based on the interest of every individual so one who criticises that the gambler donated a small amount has the guys to donate the same amount and prove they are better in their heart?

They won't so just don't hear those non-sense at all and paying attention to such critiques will encourage them to do more of such stupid arguments.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Z390 on November 03, 2023, 08:47:44 AM
This is one if the disadvantages of visiting a casino to gamble, you will have to settle unnecessary people who aren't present when you are losing your money, for gamblers they are useless people when they are losing money, and once they win a very big amount of money people will want to be part of that, it's a crazy world.

It is left for the gambler to make his decision, only him can decide if he is going to give money to some people or not, but for his safety it's better he do it because this days people are losing their minds, they can decide to hurt him by zeroing their mind that he is a greedy bastard, the heart of man turn into evil straight away when it comes to money.

Apart from being a gambler some people who don't care about you when you are struggling hard will still feel entitled when things turn around for you and they are no more in the same position they used to, the audacity they have to come asking you for something when they don't help you at your own difficulty time is an act of shameless.

Like I've just said, if this man want peace of mind he should settle whoever feels entitled in the area, people are lamenting this days and they will do anything to satisfy their mind, do not be a tool for them to satisfy their evil thoughts, give no room to evil, he should learn how to avoid this next time by using online gambling websites instead.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Winterfrost on November 03, 2023, 08:50:02 AM
This money was won by the gambler and not the punter. The expectations of the punter should be satisfying. It is the decision of the gambler to either appreciate the punter or not. The question is, was the pointer not paid to do her job? Am not really happy to hear some comment supporting that the gambler was greedy and he would have given the punter more money. Most gamblers wont have appreciated or anyone no matter the amount won, I considered that particular gambler a generous person regardless that they have tagged him to be ruthless.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: len01 on November 03, 2023, 08:57:40 AM
a common occurrence that often occurs when a gambler wins big and donates a little money to other people but still feels that it is not equivalent to what he got and gives a lot of bad criticism and it happens not only in gambling, I have experienced this when bullish arrives my assets became higher in price and I suddenly had a lot of money and tried to give someone the amount I thought was appropriate but it turned out to be a problem because he knew the amount I got so he seemed to want to ask for more than I gave but in a way the bad ones give harsh criticism but I consider it just nonsense, the most important thing is my good intentions.

In this case, I sometimes relate to how important it is to secret gambling activities. when you get a big win, no one will know and no one will beg in any way.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Gozie51 on November 03, 2023, 09:53:11 AM
This money was won by the gambler and not the punter. The expectations of the punter should be satisfying. It is the decision of the gambler to either appreciate the punter or not. The question is, was the pointer not paid to do her job? Am not really happy to hear some comment supporting that the gambler was greedy and he would have given the punter more money. Most gamblers wont have appreciated or anyone no matter the amount won, I considered that particular gambler a generous person regardless that they have tagged him to be ruthless.

I believe punter as means those who are also gamblers there. So as the story goes, those punters or gamblers that are aware he won some money not the gambling agent working there . So most times it is usually the tradition that winners try to give money to those other gamblers which could mean to encourage them to continue and that winning is real especially for new gamblers, such winning confirm to them that tomorrow they can also win.

So I believe you missed the point of the punters, they are the other gamblers around there or those that the money was given to.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: swogerino on November 03, 2023, 10:13:00 AM
As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.


A donation, charity, and other such works are based on the interest of every individual so one who criticises that the gambler donated a small amount has the guys to donate the same amount and prove they are better in their heart?

They won't so just don't hear those non-sense at all and paying attention to such critiques will encourage them to do more of such stupid arguments.

I am also one of the person that this winner gave very little money to the guy.I would have given much more and I am not just bullshiting here,I am saying the truth as if I win a million dollar and the idea is given to me by someone else and this win is in great part thanks to him,I would give him as a bare minimum 50.000-100.000 dollars which is 5-10% which is what should be the ideal amount to be given to such persons.I know any amount is an appreciation but very little amounts are no appreciation at all in my idea.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Natsuu on November 03, 2023, 10:49:27 AM
People should respect each other's choices and not feel entitled to someone else's winnings. It's all about personal preference and being cool with one another in the gambling scene. Sometimes, people might feel like they deserve a share especially if they were present or part of the gambling session but it really comes down to your own choice. Sharing is a nice gesture, but it's not a requirement.
I doubt these kind of people would give away a bigger portion of their winnings. How you share your money says something about the winner’s character but let him be. We dont know everyone’s story.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Jody.Drummer on November 03, 2023, 10:50:00 AM

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

That's right, although this may be a way to strengthen friendships in one environment but still basically there is no rule that mandates that every gambler must share their winnings with others including their friends, and for their friends also should not force winning gamblers to share their winnings for any reason, if indeed they don't want to give a penny then don't make this a problem, because after all it's their luck and they are free to use and allocate the money from their winnings wherever they want.

But basically in the real world, this small thing can really be a problem in a friendship environment, especially between those who are fellow gamblers. Honestly for myself I am not too uncomfortable with this kind of problem, usually I will only give one of my friends who knows a sign of gratitude, for example when I get a win then I will give that person a little of the amount I won and if later he gets a win then he will also tell me and give a little of his winnings, but I will not be careless to give the proceeds of this victory to others, and as I mentioned I will only give to people who can also help me when I am in trouble, more or less like that.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: coin-investor on November 03, 2023, 10:56:12 AM
The guy has all the right to allocate the amount that he wants to give to anyone, and he has no obligation to answer people questioning him on the amount he is giving it's his privilege because he is the winner, we all can feel the gambler's decision it's not easy to win huge in gambling you will have to lose a lot of money first suffer a lot of frustration and you have to be extremely lucky to win that amount, they never see the amount you invest and the agony of losing a lot of money trying to win big.

Those who ask from the winners do not understand what gamblers are going through so they should be contented with the amount, It is the gambler's family and close friends who support him are the ones who deserve to receive a big part of his winning.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Kelvinid on November 03, 2023, 11:14:56 AM
If ever I win the jackpot prize, I treat people but not to the point that I force myself to spend huge amounts for them, they will accept whatever amount I can give.

Maybe we can say it was normal in some countries and common practices and it is okay. However, it is necessary to help these people change their approach and mindset about it because soon, it will become their habit. In fact, if you lose, they won't help you either nor give you some money but when you win, they'll be going to reach you and ask for something.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: alani123 on November 03, 2023, 11:30:58 AM
This is an issue with the country's regulators. Why such a poor country as Nigeria has allowed betting to become so widespread and accessible even more than food is beyond me... If there are resources in Nigeria to build up such a large empire for betting, the government should also tax its profits and invest in oversight. Betting companies should be forced to give back to sports themselves  because in reality its the athletes that provide all the entertainment and content that  betting is built upon...

So if this is an issue of anything, it's an issue of corruption. The government is corrupt for letting megarocps take advantage of its people so freely without giving much if anything back. So I would never put the blame on the individual gambler.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 03, 2023, 11:51:48 AM
If I was the winner, I would tell a few people and it would be better to hide the victory from many people. Maybe I will tell the people closest to me and invite them to celebrate the win. I also wouldn't spread it on social media because that would only attract more people and they would ask for a share even though they didn't like gambling. It was normal that when someone became a winner from gambling, there would be many people who would praise him and say good things to the winner. They really hope to get a small share of the winning money. And the winner also doesn't have to share their winnings if they don't want to.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: bitbollo on November 03, 2023, 11:59:29 AM
The gambler made a considerabile donation. I don't understand why It should be blamed for the amount.
Morover Is not important "the amount" since I think the gesture has a strong value by itself.
It would be funny see people that are complaining in the same situation :)


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: angrybirdy on November 03, 2023, 12:08:41 PM
If I was the winner, I would tell a few people and it would be better to hide the victory from many people. Maybe I will tell the people closest to me and invite them to celebrate the win. I also wouldn't spread it on social media because that would only attract more people and they would ask for a share even though they didn't like gambling. It was normal that when someone became a winner from gambling, there would be many people who would praise him and say good things to the winner. They really hope to get a small share of the winning money. And the winner also doesn't have to share their winnings if they don't want to.
That's what I am going to do if I am the winner, it should be better if your victory is known by a few important person in my life only, So that I can distance myself from people who might stick with me because they know I am the winner... One of the reason as well, is to protect my privacy since it might be dangerous if the news was cascaded to others. Well, sharing little amount of money from your winning prize became a tradition in Gambling, Considering as a Lucky charm for others, but It really depends to the winner if they want to give some to other gamblers in the playing area or not.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Gozie51 on November 03, 2023, 12:37:28 PM
This is an issue with the country's regulators. Why such a poor country as Nigeria has allowed betting to become so widespread and accessible even more than food is beyond me... If there are resources in Nigeria to build up such a large empire for betting, the government should also tax its profits and invest in oversight. Betting companies should be forced to give back to sports themselves  because in reality its the athletes that provide all the entertainment and content that  betting is built upon...

So if this is an issue of anything, it's an issue of corruption. The government is corrupt for letting megarocps take advantage of its people so freely without giving much if anything back. So I would never put the blame on the individual gambler.

Friend I think you are missing the point of op which is basically on entitlement mentality of other gamblers not satisfied of the freewill gift given by another gambler to them because he won his bet. I think he was happy winning his bet and out of his magnimity decided to give some part of his winning to them. So that is the point if discuss.

But talking about taxing of gambling houses, yes they are taxed like other companies in Nigeria but although I believe tax evasion is high in Nigeria because of corruption.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: aioc on November 03, 2023, 12:48:55 PM


IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
source. (https://bit.ly/3saqSEO?fbclid=IwAR3ocsnKPVyW-OHcB-DkT-Z3oOxVRQtMWpQWMeYo0Qx-Un3IqzTMcX0ZjLA)


It's the gambler's prerogative because it's his money he should be the one to choose who he will give and how much he can give,
he has no obligation to gift people he does not know but we can say that he has a good character if he first gives people who are with him when he is betting.

We have a thread here of one guy winning a huge amount but not giving even a small percentage to his friends, he can allocate a small percentage but these people with whom he will share his winnings should not complaint whatever amount he should receive, You should know that his family and close friends should be the one to have a big share.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Finestream on November 03, 2023, 01:04:20 PM
It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
source. (https://bit.ly/3saqSEO?fbclid=IwAR3ocsnKPVyW-OHcB-DkT-Z3oOxVRQtMWpQWMeYo0Qx-Un3IqzTMcX0ZjLA)


If I am the winner I will just laugh at them since I don't have any obligation to give a share to those entitled guys on my winnings. They didn't contribute anything so for sure they can't ask more bigger than that since its just part of good will to the winner that he share some small part of his winning. If they can't understand well there's a problem with their attitude and the winner shouldn't add more because he need to secure his self for better future since winning that amount is rare to come to other individual that's why he shouldn't get affected with those call outs since for sure there are to many people understand and appreciate the amount he give.

Self entitlement towards other peoples winning is bad attitude and they should know that they don't have right to dictate those people  who win its because that's not their money, if they also win for sure they do the same so they should not get greedy since nothing will happen to them.
  You know, these self entitled people who keep on asking money from other winning gamblers, they only developed it as a habit because they are also used to be given by other gamblers. They won't feel that self-entitlement if they were not tolerated in the first place. So some of these instances are actually a mutual decision wherein the winning gambler also agree to give extra money if ever he wins. And as long as there are generous gamblers who keep on throwing free money to their fellow gamblers, then this self-entitlement will continue and will never be stopped.

However, one can cut this attitude by offering some free drinks instead of money. After all, these self-entitled gamblers have no right to complain but will just accept the free drinks that are made through goodwill.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: letteredhub on November 03, 2023, 02:22:46 PM
As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.
https://i.ibb.co/ZL1r4YQ/Screenshot-20231102-195805-1.jpg

Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.
https://i.ibb.co/dJXzVbS/Screenshot-20231102-195626-1.jpg


On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
source. (https://bit.ly/3saqSEO?fbclid=IwAR3ocsnKPVyW-OHcB-DkT-Z3oOxVRQtMWpQWMeYo0Qx-Un3IqzTMcX0ZjLA)

The gambler didn't have to give anyone a penny, but he decided he would share a little of his win. If I am having a decent session and the site i'm playing on has a rain function, I like to send a little out to chat to try and give myself some good karma and keep the winning alive. The amount that I or any other gambler decides to share is up to us though, noone else has a right or claim to anything.

Lately I have been tipping less as there are so many beggars in a chat, it's almost like a full time job for them to sit there and beg all day.
I observed same thing. Many of these people with this begging behavior has taken it upon them as means to earn a few box for the day they act like they are also gambling just sitting down observing and on a watch for any lucky winner for them to give a kind of show of felicitations just to end up requesting a tip from your winnings. I usually keep a straight face when I perceive such people coming closer of which I sign-off without dropping a penny.

The more they keep getting those tips from every gambler that won the more their self entitlement enlarges that they start taking it as a right, more of a dues you're supposed to observe.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: slapper on November 03, 2023, 02:43:37 PM
You've drawn a clear picture of how a gambler's kindness is being looked at closely and judged. Isn't it an interesting situation? Let's look into this more. The gambler wins a lot of money and chooses to give N100k to each other. Now, some people think it's not enough, while others think it's a nice thing to do. It's a standard example of having different points of view, right?

Tthere is no law, rule, or suggestion about how a bettor should spend their luck. They can choose what to do with their money. It is basically silly to think that wins should be split in a 60:40 ratio. It doesn't make sense, does it?

It's really weird how some people feel entitled to someone else's gains from gambling. You should accept the person's right to be alone who took a chance and won. This is to make it clear: gambling is a personal choice, as is whether to share the gains or not. Let's stop acting like we deserve things. It's not helpful, fair, or right


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Findingnemo on November 03, 2023, 03:22:46 PM
As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.


A donation, charity, and other such works are based on the interest of every individual so one who criticises that the gambler donated a small amount has the guys to donate the same amount and prove they are better in their heart?

They won't so just don't hear those non-sense at all and paying attention to such critiques will encourage them to do more of such stupid arguments.

I am also one of the person that this winner gave very little money to the guy.I would have given much more and I am not just bullshiting here,I am saying the truth as if I win a million dollar and the idea is given to me by someone else and this win is in great part thanks to him,I would give him as a bare minimum 50.000-100.000 dollars which is 5-10% which is what should be the ideal amount to be given to such persons.I know any amount is an appreciation but very little amounts are no appreciation at all in my idea.

5 to 10% is the ideal amount? who the hell said that?

Winnings belongs to me and also I have to pay taxes to a government which is actually for the development of the country so legally I am paying what I am required then why I need to take the social pressure which is really none of anyone's business and as I said why you are waiting for win 1 Millions to donate 5-10%, why not pay from your pocket just now itself!


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on November 03, 2023, 03:31:06 PM
What a strange thing to say. That's why you should never go boasting about your wealth as was discussed in a thread the other day. If you get something, the less people know about it, the better, and the same goes for bitcoin. The fewer people who know you have bitcoin, the better.

5 to 10% is the ideal amount? who the hell said that?

I don't know, maybe it's something that goes without saying in his country, like tipping in the US is usually higher than in the rest of the world.

The pathetic thing is that the winner donates, who might not have donated a single penny, and is criticised for it.



Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Slow death on November 03, 2023, 03:53:52 PM
Honestly, it's difficult to understand how people think. This custom of people making donations when they win money in gambling has been very common for years, but the problem with this is that people who win a lot of money in gambling have it in their heads that they have a moral duty to help other people, in their heads, they think that the luck they had should be compensated by helping or sharing the gains they had with other people, but the problem with that is that they keep spending money giving other people and then they become poor years later and when those people they were giving money to become poor, they don't help them.

These cases have happened a lot and yet these gambling winners don't change, they don't learn this great life lesson that they shouldn't give away money that they won in gambling. they should use this money they earned to buy things from them, make investments in the real world, because the money they earned is not infinite, and something that will end up if they spend it without using their heads. I read a lot of stories about people who got rich playing the lottery but became poor a year later because they spent money in luxury hotels, they paid for food for a lot of people they didn't know, they bought cars for people they didn't know and when these guys who they got rich with the lottery they became poor, no one helped them


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Huppercase on November 03, 2023, 04:37:44 PM
IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
source. (https://bit.ly/3saqSEO?fbclid=IwAR3ocsnKPVyW-OHcB-DkT-Z3oOxVRQtMWpQWMeYo0Qx-Un3IqzTMcX0ZjLA)

I saw this when it was trending on Twitter the other days, some were supporting the guy who copied the code to play the game and some where supporting the real owner of the code that share it to the public. So many argument here there and I came to a conclusion that sometimes, you need to be private and it's not everything you bring to the public but I understand his feelings, using a token to bet and then turn out a jarkpot is a crazy experience.

We need to understand something about been a punter(bettors with large gambling base), because they share code of games doesn't mean they are entitled to what anyone win or lose. If people win from your games, it means you are very good predictive games and more followers will follow you and with more fans, you can use them for marketing and adverts.

The guy in particular was very wrong to criticize him for giving him small amount. What does he have to say about codes he shared in the past that were very bad, didn't win anything and they loss everything? Before some of them win bets, it takes 29 days of 30 days to lose all the bets in this days and will win just one out of the 30 days. Now why not pay for the losses of the followers he has been sharing code bets to, that's bad of him to expect something from his followers, this is greed I must say.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Hispo on November 03, 2023, 04:46:42 PM
What a strange thing to say. That's why you should never go boasting about your wealth as was discussed in a thread the other day. If you get something, the less people know about it, the better, and the same goes for bitcoin. The fewer people who know you have bitcoin, the better.

5 to 10% is the ideal amount? who the hell said that?

I don't know, maybe it's something that goes without saying in his country, like tipping in the US is usually higher than in the rest of the world.

The pathetic thing is that the winner donates, who might not have donated a single penny, and is criticised for it.



Tipping in the United States and in other western countries is something I do not understand quite well yet, to be honest. Tipping in a restaurant of any service establishment is supposed to be viewed as optional and purely as a gesture from the patrons for the excellent service they got. In countries where tipping is mandatory, it would seem that employees highly depend on it to make it to the end of the month and cover their needs, which does not tell anything positive on the current situation of those kinds of jobs.
If you asked me, people who deal with the public should be rewarded with a fair salary by their bosses and do not expect clients to pay for their livelihood.
For example, in Japan people do not tip and they seem to be doing fair enough, in my humble opinion.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: noormcs5 on November 03, 2023, 04:53:55 PM
What a strange thing to say. That's why you should never go boasting about your wealth as was discussed in a thread the other day. If you get something, the less people know about it, the better, and the same goes for bitcoin. The fewer people who know you have bitcoin, the better.

5 to 10% is the ideal amount? who the hell said that?

I don't know, maybe it's something that goes without saying in his country, like tipping in the US is usually higher than in the rest of the world.

The pathetic thing is that the winner donates, who might not have donated a single penny, and is criticised for it.



Tipping in the United States and in other western countries is something I do not understand quite well yet, to be honest. Tipping in a restaurant of any service establishment is supposed to be viewed as optional and purely as a gesture from the patrons for the excellent service they got. In countries where tipping is mandatory, it would seem that employees highly depend on it to make it to the end of the month and cover their needs, which does not tell anything positive on the current situation of those kinds of jobs.
If you asked me, people who deal with the public should be rewarded with a fair salary by their bosses and do not expect clients to pay for their livelihood.
For example, in Japan people do not tip and they seem to be doing fair enough, in my humble opinion.

Tipping is not mandatory and even if it is mandatory in some parts of the world, there is no way that you have to give a certain percentage of the winnings as a tip. It can be any amount and the receiver or the public have no right to comment on it. It is a personal gesture and there is no obligation like if you win a 100$ game, you give 10$ or so. Giving only a dollar as a tip should be considered a good act and the receiver should be thankful to him.
Even if the winner does not donate anything, it is his personal wish and no one should criticise on it.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: dezoel on November 03, 2023, 04:55:10 PM
What the critics are saying and doing is stupid, indeed. The guy didn't have to give anyone anything at all but he still did, I don't see how there is any issue with that. It's his money, he won it using his own money and didn't take the money from the guy he gave 100k, so the guy who received that sum didn't even deserve that but he got it and he should be thankful and others should praise the man for what he did instead of criticizing him for his generosity.

Such people exist everywhere, sometimes you will even have close relatives who would have such mindsets. If they are poor and jobless even though the men in their household are all okay and able to work, they are too lazy to do that. Now, if you are earning a good income, they would expect you to keep helping them financially and if you refuse to do that, they will start saying things like, "What you are getting isn't all for yourself but it has our share in it, god is giving that to you so that you can help us." I mean, what the hell?


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Belarge on November 03, 2023, 05:12:51 PM
IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
source. (https://bit.ly/3saqSEO?fbclid=IwAR3ocsnKPVyW-OHcB-DkT-Z3oOxVRQtMWpQWMeYo0Qx-Un3IqzTMcX0ZjLA)
I won't reimburse anyone who claims to have a share of my wins because it was my sweat and struggle that enabled me to reap enormous rewards from the system. Where have they been all day while I've lost immensely to the system? Just arriving ruined my excitement when I single-handedly with luck won the lottery in gambling. There is no uniform regulation or set of terms and conditions that regulate gambling in relation to these entitlement claims. Winners provide gifts to their friends of their personal decision, without accompanying them with coercive words of entitlement claims.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Yatsan on November 03, 2023, 05:13:58 PM
Guilt tripping acts.
I don’t personally give that much to punters. First of all, it is a gamble or this is gambling in general. Losing will be shouldered by you alone so how come you would be giving spare if you’re the one who worked hard or perhaps bet on that hunch to get the win. Giving an amount you are comfortable with, should be fine. What declines the value is the punter’s appreciation probably because of greed. If the punter is that confident of the bet, then he should be the one to put the bet in order for him to not to have any second emotions after the result.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: junder on November 03, 2023, 05:31:06 PM
Tipping is not mandatory and even if it is mandatory in some parts of the world, there is no way that you have to give a certain percentage of the winnings as a tip. It can be any amount and the receiver or the public have no right to comment on it. It is a personal gesture and there is no obligation like if you win a 100$ game, you give 10$ or so. Giving only a dollar as a tip should be considered a good act and the receiver should be thankful to him.
Even if the winner does not donate anything, it is his personal wish and no one should criticise on it.


It is true, because in gambling there is absolutely no rule that tells the winner to share the proceeds of his winnings with others, whether it is still within the scope of gamblers or anyone else, and there is also absolutely no compulsion for them to share a percentage with other parties in terms of their winnings. In my opinion it depends on the winner himself, if indeed he wants to give to one of his friends for example then that is his right, and also clearly the party being given should not comment on whatever amount he receives, they should be grateful because there are still good people who understand who want to give them a little money from other people's gambling winnings.

Because on the other hand there is also absolutely no such rule that forces someone to share their winnings, it's up to them and their rights. And maybe it will only happen when there are two friends who are very close and like to help each other, then I think there is nothing wrong if one of them gives a percentage of the winnings to the other friend, I think it's one of the approaches that is good enough to strengthen the relationship, there are some of my friends who are like that.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Beparanf on November 03, 2023, 05:42:15 PM
Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.

This is a norm now since freedom of speech is already popular due to social media. I’m sure you knew that people have different preferences and attitudes which means we can have different approaches on a given scenario. Social makes people entitled to say their opinion so there’s always unsatisfactory comment on any post on social media on whatever topic it is.

Freedom of speech won’t make them stop and we should just leave them since they don’t represent the general public. Giving part of the winning no matter what the amount is already a good gesture of appreciation since other people won’t give you money when you lose tho.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: coolcoinz on November 03, 2023, 05:56:02 PM
It wasn't a lot of money to begin with. 100k naira is just 100 bucks or 100 euro. It's the amount of money many people spend in a bar for drinks alone. A family meal at a normal (not fancy) restaurant can cost you that much, but I understand that in Nigeria it's a lot of money and that's where the real problem starts. People criticize the gambler for not tipping more money but it was a lot of money to begin with. I suspect that that punter's daily wage wasn't anything near 100k that he got from the gambler. Ask any waiter or bartender if getting a daily wage in a single tip is big or not and you'll see what I mean.

I feel like he did good, was nice to the guy, gave him a tip and that tip wasn't by no means too low and I'm sure they were both happy with the outcome.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: fullhdpixel on November 03, 2023, 05:59:44 PM
a common occurrence that often occurs when a gambler wins big and donates a little money to other people but still feels that it is not equivalent to what he got and gives a lot of bad criticism and it happens not only in gambling, I have experienced this when bullish arrives my assets became higher in price and I suddenly had a lot of money and tried to give someone the amount I thought was appropriate but it turned out to be a problem because he knew the amount I got so he seemed to want to ask for more than I gave but in a way the bad ones give harsh criticism but I consider it just nonsense, the most important thing is my good intentions.

In this case, I sometimes relate to how important it is to secret gambling activities. when you get a big win, no one will know and no one will beg in any way.
This sucks when happens. This is why many gamblers are trying to conceal their selves when playing. The other benefit it can give is security because someone can rob you out or hack your account when they know you just won a huge amount. If those people complain maybe say that can I have the amount again? If they think it's small.

Let see if what they will do. If they return it then they mean what they say but if not, then those people might only be joking too, though there is still a hope that the other person can give them extra. I remember scenarios like this also happens on the street children and beggars on the side walk. It's crazy.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: tjtonmoy on November 03, 2023, 06:01:05 PM
Haters will say all kind of things just because it wasn't them. Let me tell you this, if it was them they won't share a penny with others. Just because some person did it, they came out saying that he should do better? This is pure nonsense. It is my winning and I can do whatever I want with it. All those opinions on the internet doesn't mean a shit.

They can't do it on their own and when people are doing it, they are jealous. They think that by doing this and dragging that person would make them famous and they would get sympathy from others. They want to be that guy but they can't. He has on that on his own and he has every right to do whatever he wants with it. He can give it all or keep it all to himself. It's a personal choice. I don't get the idea of people hating others for doing something that they can't. Why don't they just go gamble and win on their own and give it out to people as they say?


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Findingnemo on November 03, 2023, 06:25:38 PM
snip~
Even if the winner does not donate anything, it is his personal wish and no one should criticise on it.
Exactly, the winner is not obliged to pay anything at all and whoever thinks that the money came free why not asking governments to donate all the money that whoever is in need because literally money is created out of thin air and they have a reason why system doesn't work like that.

In US even the tipping culture is getting out of control and sooner or later we might see changes in it as well and I am from the region where you will be thanked no matter whether you tip or not also in a country like Japan tipping is considered as disrespectful act.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Nerdy doctor on November 03, 2023, 07:05:33 PM
It's really weird how some people feel entitled to someone else's gains from gambling. You should accept the person's right to be alone who took a chance and won. This is to make it clear: gambling is a personal choice, as is whether to share the gains or not. Let's stop acting like we deserve things. It's not helpful, fair, or right

It’s not weird anymore. It’s plain crazy on how people can feel entitled to your money and can have opinions on how best to spend your money.
In this case, the winner being very happy, gave money to someone who didn’t deserve it. The man who booked in the game is just plain greedy and thinks he deserves a share of the winnings. People like these deserve nothing from anyone and his greed can and would get him nothing from other players who are also regulars there going forward.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: darkangel11 on November 03, 2023, 07:16:45 PM
What would they rather have him do? Not give a tip at all?
Sometimes you just cant satisfy people. You don't give a tip, you're greedy. You give a small tip, again you're greedy. You give a bigger tip, you're greedy again because you had so much money, so you give 50% of your whole win and then they'll say that you're spoiling the punter or that you throw money away like it was nothing.
Someone smart once said "fuck the society" and I agree. Whoever is giving this guy a hard time for giving a tip should get a life.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 03, 2023, 07:36:24 PM
Completely agree with the op, This menace is something that has been going on in the gambling community for quit some time now, I mean a very long time now actually.

I remember way back 2013, I was working in a company back then, there was this guy who was ardent into lotto, he was a Forcaster as well, he one time forcasted some game numbers which another co - worker decided to play, he actually gave the co-worker some numbers, and he himself played another numbers altogether, later on, he lost but the co-worker won, the co-worker out of his own benevolence decided to give him 30 percent of the total money won, but the Forcaster insisted that they share the money equal - how greedy can some one be.

This incident later lead to a very serious fight in the factory that day, as the co-worker blatantly refused to share the money he won by 50 percent.

Some people actually feel this entitlement because they feel that without them sharing the game prediction to who ever won, the person wouldn't have won, meanwhile, the person must have paid an exorbitant fees to subscribe to the prediction service, and yet, when the person wins, they expect him or her to share the money, meanwhile, the person who shared the prediction must have also won and keep his or money to himself alone - the world is indeed filled with greedy people.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Westinhome on November 03, 2023, 09:02:12 PM
The gambler made a considerabile donation. I don't understand why It should be blamed for the amount.
Morover Is not important "the amount" since I think the gesture has a strong value by itself.
It would be funny see people that are complaining in the same situation :)

When the gambler made the good winning from the casino,he ready to donate the money to the people organise the gambling in the name of the owner.The worker of the casino get some tips from the winner all the time.So being the worker of the casino,if you not get any commission from the other gambler,you should blame the other worker of you same casino.The gambler with enough money surely consider the excess money as the gift to them.So they probably do the donation like after the win from the gambling site.When the average economy person get into the gambling win,it’s hard to expect the same commission from that gambler.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Casdinyard on November 03, 2023, 09:13:14 PM
Why the fuck are they so pressed about this man winning? Perhaps bet better next time? Lol. Matter of fact he's not obliged to give any of these people shit, cause for one, that's his own money to begin with, doesn't matter if that's 100 Naira or 1 Naira. That came out of his pocket and so whatever comes into him from that 100 is supposed to be his own.

I have made bets and won handsomely as well in the past, yes I gave people money as gratuity but these people I gave these to, deserved it every step of the way. Either they are friends who have been with me throughout the gambling journey, gave me advice, or generally just hung out with me when no one else would. Basically leave a seat at your table for people that deserve to eat with you.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: BitcoinPanther on November 03, 2023, 09:14:08 PM
I am also one of the person that this winner gave very little money to the guy.I would have given much more and I am not just bullshiting here,I am saying the truth as if I win a million dollar and the idea is given to me by someone else and this win is in great part thanks to him,I would give him as a bare minimum 50.000-100.000 dollars which is 5-10% which is what should be the ideal amount to be given to such persons.I know any amount is an appreciation but very little amounts are no appreciation at all in my idea.

5 to 10% is the ideal amount? who the hell said that?
 I think this is about personal preference  of a person tipping others who gave him the hints and tips about the bet he won.  I would also do the same in gratitude to that person's information that lead me to a huge win.  But if the person has done nothing and I just wanted to tip him out of generosity, I think a hundred dollar out of million dollar won is more than enough.

Winnings belongs to me and also I have to pay taxes to a government which is actually for the development of the country so legally I am paying what I am required then why I need to take the social pressure which is really none of anyone's business and as I said why you are waiting for win 1 Millions to donate 5-10%, why not pay from your pocket just now itself!

No one is forcing anyone to give tips to other people. As stated, this is a personal matter and your decision is your decision and other people is theirs.  So it is a person's right to do whatever he wanted to his winnings and yes, other people should have no say how we use our winnings.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Cryptomultiplier on November 03, 2023, 09:15:42 PM
Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Nheer on November 03, 2023, 09:39:41 PM
Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.
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I don’t people seriously on social media platforms because they are just there to catch cruise. The same X (twitter) user who is calling out the winner of the bet for giving N100k to someone who didn’t really contribute to the game won might even do worse if he was to be the winner.

Anyone who wins an amount from gambling is not obligated to share his winnings with anyone in any ratio, he owns the money so he should decide who he give money to and any amount he wishes to give out. Giving out money would still depend on his relationship with the person, if it is his close friend then it is okay to give him more if he wishes but it still depends on the winner. Don’t forget we all have problems and they are never ending.

On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet
There is no ratio or percentage a winner should share his money with others just because they know about the game, anyone thinks he did the wrong thing should go ahead and win his own game and not share with anyone. It depends on the person who win, we all have different hearts and habits and our charity habits varies so we shouldn’t criticize others decisions they did their best even though we think their best is not enough but at least we should appreciate them.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: decodx on November 03, 2023, 10:10:37 PM
Yeah, absolutely! Whether or not you wanna share your gambling winnings is totally up to you.  There ain't no official rule saying you gotta spread the wealth or nothing.  Some folks hit it big and get all excited to treat their buddies, or donate some of it to charity.  That's cool of them and  other people, if they score a fat wad of cash at the tables wanna keep it for themselves, you know? But, I don't blame em! It's their money, they can do whatever they want with it.  The main thing is don't give anybody a hard time over what they decide.  No reason to start drama about who gets a cut of someone else's jackpot or whatever.  Thats just how it goes when you're running with the high rollers.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Weawant on November 03, 2023, 10:33:18 PM
It's true you are at liberty to spend your gambling profit or proceeds at will especially when it comes to showing appreciation, every Sense of entitlement from anyone should be ignored because it was a joint effort of funds so the winner is at liberty to do what they wish.

I think it's because there may have been causes where the winner have benefited from the wins of others so when it happens that he won such too was expected of him aswell but then the idea of what they consider an ideal percentage is out of play because they winner definitely have things he would want to do with such wins and so he wouldn't spend his profit satisfying some silly request from some entitled minded people, I only take a different stand if such a person contributed to the win probably helping with some picks or part of the stake amount then it will be fair to give him a good percentage of the proceed from the bet other wise he shouldn't be entitled.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Saint-loup on November 03, 2023, 10:46:24 PM
Unfortunately, most people have no clue of what is a RTP of a gambling game, and they don't realize that the guy had maybe lost way more that those winnings in his life, and that it didn't won this prize because of an astonishing luck but because of his statistics. He has maybe bet a rather small stake this time, but he maybe bet it thousands times during years.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Orpichukwu on November 04, 2023, 05:59:13 PM
The first question that I will ask the person who won this money is: how do people get to know about the amount that was won in the first place? Was it that the excitement could not let him keep the winning amount secret from himself, or was it the bet shop where he won the money that the cashier leaked the winning amount?
 
The amount that the guy gave to the next person does not really matter; what matters is that it was given out of his own will and generosity. No one helped him win that money, so they should appreciate the little that he has given back to society and stop criticising him, because if they were even the ones who won that money, who knows if they can even give out any single amount to their friends? The guy should not listen to them and focus only on what he should do with the money next; that's what matters most.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: uneng on November 04, 2023, 06:10:53 PM
This is the kind of reaction you can expect from envious individuals. People don't have to say anything about someone else's winnings. It's not their winnings, it's not their money, it's not their role to decide anything. Rather, they should take care their own lives and make decisions based on what is in front of them. Usually these people who say how others should act are the most unable ones to act on their own lives when a situation is presented to them to be solved.

My suggestion to the winner and gamblers in general is to just ignore this kind of comment. Do as you want, share what you think you should donate and never expect to be praised by others for your actions.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: letteredhub on November 20, 2023, 07:35:25 PM
The first question that I will ask the person who won this money is: how do people get to know about the amount that was won in the first place? Was it that the excitement could not let him keep the winning amount secret from himself, or was it the bet shop where he won the money that the cashier leaked the winning amount?
If you have been gambling a long serving gambler you will have known by now that bet companies/bet shops don't hide huge amount of winnings won by a gambler in their site/betshop they make it a public affair because the publicity attracts new customers (gamblers) when they hear/read about the amount won. It's a marketing strategy.
 
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The amount that the guy gave to the next person does not really matter; what matters is that it was given out of his own will and generosity. No one helped him win that money, so they should appreciate the little that he has given back to society and stop criticising him, because if they were even the ones who won that money, who knows if they can even give out any single amount to their friends? The guy should not listen to them and focus only on what he should do with the money next; that's what matters most.
Selfish persons pretends to act to sound good when they are the one in the receiving end, by their unappreciative response  it's easy to detect them. I buy your idea, the young just have to focus on how to invest his money and live his life as beautiful as it should be.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: rachael9385 on November 20, 2023, 07:59:54 PM
Fuck this bro, if in any case I am in the position of the winner and I gave out the N100k to people for them to share and a mother fucker can out and say something like this on the image, then I think I have to collect my money back because I don't see no reason why someone should not appropriate something that he or she didn't worked for.
However, I really wont care at that particular point in time because I will be overwhelmed if in any case I win such amount of money in bet, even if  the winning is not up to this same amount but a massive win I will be happy to give.
However, there are a lot of gamblers that can not keep their winning secret, mostly those that haven't won such amount of money before or haven't posed such amount of money before, they can not keep it as a secret for others to know.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Davidvictorson on November 20, 2023, 08:04:57 PM
Is it not funny that the punter didn't play his own game? This is a fake punter because if he was the real deal, he would not even need any financial appreciation from his followers. His satisfaction would come from the fact that because of him, someone one won millions which may have been the first for the person and automatically became a millionaire. The punter would have even found satisfaction in the fact that he was able to do for the average citizen what their government has not been able to achieve which is to change the economic status of the individual and not to be bothered a mere token. The punter needs to work on himself and his brand.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: stomachgrowls on November 20, 2023, 08:10:06 PM
As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.
Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.

On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
It is really just that bullshit that you would really be that making yourself that giving with some amounts into those people around just because they are shouting that they would really be getting one but its true that
its not really something mandatory yet you do have the full rights whether you should give or not, if ever you do give out some amount then its just it, never ever consider on giving out something big
since its your money had been risked out on the first place to place up that bet and not theirs. They dont really have the rights on asking up money just because they do feel that they are really that
entitle to get some share with that win of yours. Better to ignore those people and would rather be focusing on the money that you have won. People doesnt have the rights on asking something
specially on the money that you had won. Its all yours and there's no other people have the rights on getting up the share. Basing up on the situation that it is really just that still
good that he do tend to share up at least, even though its small but still not a bad thing to consider rather than on having nothing at all.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: 348Judah on November 20, 2023, 11:09:09 PM
Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.

Before you consider that, first look into the conditions attached to the gambling first, maybe there's any collaboration between the two of them while playing the bet before everything set in the player, to me, if someone like that exists around me, i will count such for nuisance before he can't firce me against my wish no matter the level of how he has complained about me on his efforts on my bet, afteral am taking the risk to use my money and never forced him to support, if i wish to give him something then i will do that willingly without having him complain, but if he keeps murmuring around then that may be the reason i may not give anything.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: pinggoki on November 21, 2023, 04:00:52 AM
That's just straight up bitter jealousy in my book, I refuse to believe that there's a person that really thinks like that in real life because that's the most stupid thing to say, hell most of the entitled individuals are pretty stupid as if they deserve being able to receive that kind of stuff in the first place, whenever I see that kind of stuff to someone I know, I instantly lose respect for them because they don't have any gratitude in their body even their parents, I lose respect because no way that's not something learned outside the home. People should stop the culture of giving back in my opinion so people like this doesn't have any backbone to say stupid stuff like being given more.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: retreat on November 21, 2023, 04:36:40 AM
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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

That's right, apart from taxes, we don't have any responsibility to give some of the rewards we get to other people, even our own family. Because it's very funny to see many people looking jealous and saying that he should share his gambling rewards with other people, like it's none of their business whether he wants to share some of his rewards with other people or not. And they shouldn't have to protest whatever decision he makes because they don't have anything to do with his game.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: sunsilk on November 21, 2023, 04:49:22 AM
Any amount that is given is a sign of happiness from the winner. It is true that if one wins with such huge amounts, he is in no obligation of giving a certain amount from his winnings.

Well, it is about being ungrateful or they prefer some certain amounts that should be given to them. If that happens to me and I am a receiver and out of nowhere I will receive from the winner's money as a giveaway, I'd be happy to accept that.

And if I am a winner and I have given someone and isn't grateful, that will be the last time I will give a gift to him.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Hirose UK on November 21, 2023, 04:58:38 AM
This is the kind of reaction you can expect from envious individuals. People don't have to say anything about someone else's winnings. It's not their winnings, it's not their money, it's not their role to decide anything. Rather, they should take care their own lives and make decisions based on what is in front of them. Usually these people who say how others should act are the most unable ones to act on their own lives when a situation is presented to them to be solved.

My suggestion to the winner and gamblers in general is to just ignore this kind of comment. Do as you want, share what you think you should donate and never expect to be praised by others for your actions.
It has become normal attitude and behavior when there are people who are jealous of other people achievements and do not even hesitate to say few basic words in response to criticism that should not be said.
In fact, what the gambler does is generous attitude and he still cares about other people when he wins, even though the amount is not too big, he proves that he can still have concern for other people.
Honestly, it very rare for me to hear about incidents like this, in fact most of the people out there only care and are concerned with themselves without any thought of caring for other people.

Yes, as long as they can benefit other people and do not harm or cause trouble to other people, then doing whatever feels good is the right decision.
A gambler would prefer to use his winnings for his personal interests and in this case the appreciation given by the gambler was truly extraordinary.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: rachael9385 on November 22, 2023, 08:38:52 PM
Any amount that is given is a sign of happiness from the winner. It is true that if one wins with such huge amounts, he is in no obligation of giving a certain amount from his winnings.

Well, it is about being ungrateful or they prefer some certain amounts that should be given to them. If that happens to me and I am a receiver and out of nowhere I will receive from the winner's money as a giveaway, I'd be happy to accept that.

And if I am a winner and I have given someone and isn't grateful, that will be the last time I will give a gift to him.
Speaking about ungrateful, yes there are a lot of people that are so ungrateful even after cutting off your throat for them.
However it is not a must for a gambler to share his or her winnings with anyone but any gambler that do share his or her winnings with other gamblers, no matter how small the money is as long as they did not worked for it, they should have to collect it with happiness and not grogies, collecting the money with full happiness is also a sign of good conducts and how grateful you are, hoping that one day it will be your turn to win big money from gamble or any other means.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: AmoreJaz on November 22, 2023, 08:46:31 PM
Any amount that is given is a sign of happiness from the winner. It is true that if one wins with such huge amounts, he is in no obligation of giving a certain amount from his winnings.

Well, it is about being ungrateful or they prefer some certain amounts that should be given to them. If that happens to me and I am a receiver and out of nowhere I will receive from the winner's money as a giveaway, I'd be happy to accept that.

And if I am a winner and I have given someone and isn't grateful, that will be the last time I will give a gift to him.
Speaking about ungrateful, yes there are a lot of people that are so ungrateful even after cutting off your throat for them.
However it is not a must for a gambler to share his or her winnings with anyone but any gambler that do share his or her winnings with other gamblers, no matter how small the money is as long as they did not worked for it, they should have to collect it with happiness and not grogies, collecting the money with full happiness is also a sign of good conducts and how grateful you are, hoping that one day it will be your turn to win big money from gamble or any other means.

i am with this sentiment as well. the winner has no obligation whatsoever to distribute his winnings to random people or just people around him. it is his winnings, so the prerogative to share relies on him. also, it is not his responsibility to give it to people. just remember, when you are losing, where are they? i bet no one cares if you are on the losing side.
so for those people who happen to learn such big winnings of the person they know of , don't expect that you will receive something for him. you can't expect that from anyone. they have their own plans to take care of.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: electronicash on November 22, 2023, 08:56:48 PM
is the guy who won that $16,000 worth of Niara the guy who avoided his friends after winning?  i wouldn't be surprised. he hid because if he shared 100N, he'd be bashed, by his friends but by giving more than $500, a lot of his acquaintances would become friends asking the same amount. and then if he gives just about $200, they will complain about giving him only $200 while the other friend receives $500. the self-entitlement is just like saying to the winner he has no right to say no.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Weawant on November 22, 2023, 09:39:31 PM
Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.
Definitely feeling entitled over some ones money been won at the casino is really  a bad idea and should be treated as such but then on a second taught there could be reasons why some persons will feel entitled to the point of mentioning it or make a deal out of it and these are what should be considered in cases like this.

It's very possible that the current winner once enjoyed the benefits of some other person's win before now and they made no deal out of it so it was expected that a good turn deserves another but may be a bridge of this reciprocation happened and has led to this, so sometimes it's important we be mindful of gestures because someday it may be expected or demanded of us but this doesn't mean I supported entitlement on other people's money.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Lanatsa on November 22, 2023, 09:46:35 PM
Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.
Definitely feeling entitled over some ones money been won at the casino is really  a bad idea and should be treated as such but then on a second taught there could be reasons why some persons will feel entitled to the point of mentioning it or make a deal out of it and these are what should be considered in cases like this.

It's very possible that the current winner once enjoyed the benefits of some other person's win before now and they made no deal out of it so it was expected that a good turn deserves another but may be a bridge of this reciprocation happened and has led to this, so sometimes it's important we be mindful of gestures because someday it may be expected or demanded of us but this doesn't mean I supported entitlement on other people's money.
If you've been able to get something in the past in other people like getting some extra money or bonuses then the time comes that you are the ones whose on the top now then it would really be just that right or something ethical that you should really know to look back into the things before. Yes, its not mandatory or necessary on giving back the favor but it is really that something that the right thing to be done
but of course it would really be that basing on the situation or condition since not all would really be that necessary for you to make things to be give back but well it would really be that according into you
on what you would gonna do.

People wont really be giving out that kind of entitling themselves that they do really have some part but there are situations on which there's an exemption but most of the  time it isnt really just that right that
you would really be just giving something just because they do ask out? Some do even need bigger amounts and not really that contented on the amount that you are giving?
Arent they out of their minds? Your money is the thing that you had risk out not theirs, yes they might be giving those kind of tips or whatever it is but doesnt mean
that they do have the rights on asking something.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: 348Judah on November 22, 2023, 09:54:39 PM
Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.
Definitely feeling entitled over some ones money been won at the casino is really  a bad idea and should be treated as such but then on a second taught there could be reasons why some persons will feel entitled to the point of mentioning it or make a deal out of it and these are what should be considered in cases like this.

It's very possible that the current winner once enjoyed the benefits of some other person's win before now and they made no deal out of it so it was expected that a good turn deserves another but may be a bridge of this reciprocation happened and has led to this, so sometimes it's important we be mindful of gestures because someday it may be expected or demanded of us but this doesn't mean I supported entitlement on other people's money.

What would one gain in doing so, it's just like self appraisal and this amount to nothing, you're not being recognized, rewarded and also got served with bitterness of mind because you're not getting what you want, some may actually be doing that in bids for seeking other's attention, which means nothing to get serious about, if they had known the best to do before that, they would have gamble it for themselves and not for helping others, if they choose to reward us with what we did, we should count it a privilege and if they don't, it's not our right anyway because they took the risk with their money.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Makus on November 22, 2023, 10:01:48 PM
I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: arimamib on November 22, 2023, 11:01:53 PM
Left for me, I would consider anyone feeling entitled to my winnings or money as a thief, mostly after quantifying the facts that clearly distinct us.
In this story, the person who won N15.5m and gifted the person N100k even did well to appreciate someone he/she could recognize.
Perhaps it was because of the contribution made over time or the encouragement the winner received when it was too easy to just let go of betting. Whichever way, no one can decide or should be allowed to criticize what they are in no control of.
Definitely feeling entitled over some ones money been won at the casino is really  a bad idea and should be treated as such but then on a second taught there could be reasons why some persons will feel entitled to the point of mentioning it or make a deal out of it and these are what should be considered in cases like this.

It's very possible that the current winner once enjoyed the benefits of some other person's win before now and they made no deal out of it so it was expected that a good turn deserves another but may be a bridge of this reciprocation happened and has led to this, so sometimes it's important we be mindful of gestures because someday it may be expected or demanded of us but this doesn't mean I supported entitlement on other people's money.
It is so inappropriate to feel entitled to someone else's money, especially if it was won at the casino. Gambling is a risky hustle, and there is no guarantee of winning. If someone is fortunate enough to win, they should enjoy the fruits of their deed without feeling obligated to share it with others.

Maybe there are some situations where it might be appropriate to discuss splitting winnings with someone else. For example, if two people were playing together and agreed to share their winnings beforehand, then it's fair to do so. Additionally, if someone provides financial assistance to another person who later wins a large sum of money, it might be reasonable for them to request a portion of the winnings as compensation for their generosity.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: inthelongrun on November 23, 2023, 06:33:21 AM
I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.

I don't understand why some people have that kind of attitude. I remember there's also a topic here because that guy wanted his friend to follow his advice. He called his friend's decision greedy because his advice was not followed. They had an argument because this unashamed person wanted to insist on his advice as if he were the one spending the money. The argument didn't end well but his friend was right to continue betting because the betting ticket actually won.

The world is better when people mind their own business unless it's something that can harm them.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Hirose UK on November 23, 2023, 07:12:22 AM
I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.
The winnings belong to him and he has full rights to all the winning money so if he gives small portion to other gamblers or other people then it is his own decision with that money.
Even when he gives most of the money to other people it doesn't matter because it is his money and no one else can forbid or stop him.
On the other hand, we must be able to give or show respect to the gambler because he still cares about other people and is willing to generously give some of his winnings even though he also knows that he has lost quite lot of money in betting.

Honestly, I still don't understand why there are still people out there criticizing generous gamblers and why there are still people who think badly about incidents like this.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Makus on November 23, 2023, 08:17:39 AM
The winnings belong to him and he has full rights to all the winning money so if he gives small portion to other gamblers or other people then it is his own decision with that money.
Even when he gives most of the money to other people it doesn't matter because it is his money and no one else can forbid or stop him.

Being generous isn't the problem, and I believe most of the comments here even support his generosity, the only problem we have is the criticism from the act of generosity, I mean how can someone feel that the gambler should have done more, N100k is a lot money to gift someone for doing nothing, despite the source of the money it should be respected and considered an alm. No one has the right to decide the amount of money the winner gives, its his money so he alone can choose to gift some out or not.

However the reason for this post is to discuss how some people criticise the gambler for gifting N100k out of N15m. But your comment seem to be mistaking what I mean.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Quidat on November 23, 2023, 08:31:15 AM
The winnings belong to him and he has full rights to all the winning money so if he gives small portion to other gamblers or other people then it is his own decision with that money.
Even when he gives most of the money to other people it doesn't matter because it is his money and no one else can forbid or stop him.

Being generous isn't the problem, and I believe most of the comments here even support his generosity, the only problem we have is the criticism from the act of generosity, I mean how can someone feel that the gambler should have done more, N100k is a lot money to gift someone for doing nothing, despite the source of the money it should be respected and considered an alm. No one has the right to decide the amount of money the winner gives, its his money so he alone can choose to gift some out or not.

However the reason for this post is to discuss how some people criticise the gambler for gifting N100k out of N15m. But your comment seem to be mistaking what I mean.
Generous on other peoples eyes but not into those people or that someone who is really that asking for some bigger bonus or asking for some big part just because they do really believe
that they are the reason on why someone had been able to have some good hit? Thats BS! Just like been said that its none others right or business if you do win big because
in the first place you are only risking  your money to win something and they are really just giving some advises but you are still the ones who would really be making such decision
whether you would be following them or would really be going against. It is really just that they dont have the rights on asking for some amount as if they do have the rights. lol


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: angrybirdy on November 23, 2023, 10:22:13 AM
I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.
That's why it's better not to normalize being too generous in giving back to other people once you win in gambling unless you owe that person. You can share your winning as an act of appreciation to those person who always there for you and help you while you're struggling in your gambling era but not to the person you're normally playing with. Let's normalize enjoying the money and things that we have without  feeling obligated to give/ share it back to others.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Eternad on November 23, 2023, 10:31:24 AM
I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.
That's why it's better not to normalize being too generous in giving back to other people once you win in gambling unless you owe that person. You can share your winning as an act of appreciation to those person who always there for you and help you while you're struggling in your gambling era but not to the person you're normally playing with. Let's normalize enjoying the money and things that we have without  feeling obligated to give/ share it back to others.

There’s no way to set what’s normal now since this is already a customary from a long time ago tradition. Gambling discreetly is the best solution to avoid this instead of change the normal reaction of people since it’s impossible to change other people perspective.

Besides, Online casino is now already popular which gives us convenience on gambling at home without sharing others your win. But in my opinion, it’s really not bad sharing some money if you win because I regularly do rain drop on casino chat wheneverI win huge amount just for my self satisfaction.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Gozie51 on November 23, 2023, 10:43:21 AM
The winnings belong to him and he has full rights to all the winning money so if he gives small portion to other gamblers or other people then it is his own decision with that money.
Even when he gives most of the money to other people it doesn't matter because it is his money and no one else can forbid or stop him.

Being generous isn't the problem, and I believe most of the comments here even support his generosity, the only problem we have is the criticism from the act of generosity, I mean how can someone feel that the gambler should have done more, N100k is a lot money to gift someone for doing nothing, despite the source of the money it should be respected and considered an alm. No one has the right to decide the amount of money the winner gives, its his money so he alone can choose to gift some out or not.

However the reason for this post is to discuss how some people criticise the gambler for gifting N100k out of N15m. But your comment seem to be mistaking what I mean.

Giving to other punters is not bad, in fact it is an act of benevolence that you can do that when you win. Many gamblers show that appreciation and encouragement to others when they win so it is not the first time that is happening and it is not the first time that I will hear it. The only thing there is if those who were gifted such money start to be entitled and wanting to claim more money from the winner, that is not right. It is an appreciation gift and should be regarded as gift, people don't usually criticize gift except you are close to the giver and you have an or choice to determine what would be given to you.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: ethereumhunter on November 23, 2023, 11:30:21 AM
I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.
It's actually okay if others criticize his actions for being too generous to someone he may not know. Sharing the winning prize with other people is also not the winner's obligation but depends on his generosity. If there is another winner, he doesn't need to share his winnings with people he doesn't know so as not to provoke opinions from the public or his friends.

There is no obligation to share the winnings with anyone. So people who criticize the winner should not question it because it is the winner's right to use their winnings. Or maybe those who criticized him also wanted his winnings.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Jody.Drummer on November 23, 2023, 11:35:07 AM
I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.
That's why it's better not to normalize being too generous in giving back to other people once you win in gambling unless you owe that person. You can share your winning as an act of appreciation to those person who always there for you and help you while you're struggling in your gambling era but not to the person you're normally playing with. Let's normalize enjoying the money and things that we have without  feeling obligated to give/ share it back to others.

There’s no way to set what’s normal now since this is already a customary from a long time ago tradition. Gambling discreetly is the best solution to avoid this instead of change the normal reaction of people since it’s impossible to change other people perspective.

Besides, Online casino is now already popular which gives us convenience on gambling at home without sharing others your win. But in my opinion, it’s really not bad sharing some money if you win because I regularly do rain drop on casino chat wheneverI win huge amount just for my self satisfaction.

In the event that you're looking to get a new home, you'll want to look at a few of the things you can do to make sure that you're getting the most out of your new home. I think it's no problem to do as long as you are sincere to give a small portion of your winnings, don't let something that should be a binding force for a stronger relationship become a problem, on the other hand you also have to look first at the person you want to share. For me personally, honestly, I prefer to share my winnings with people who are also good to me in any way, it's like a little sign of gratitude because they have been good to us, no problem.

But yes it all comes back to you because it's your right if you want to share then go ahead but if you really don't want to share at all then I agree with your opinion that it's better for you to gamble secretly so that if you get a win other people around you won't know about it. I see now that people participate more in online casinos than physical ones, and I admit that it is more practical, and it will be able to help you to gamble secretly.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Russlenat on November 23, 2023, 11:36:48 AM
The winner should just be messing with the person whom he handed with some almost worthless cash. But really, is it such a big deal that needs to be broadcasted to the world? I mean, we're all in the gambling game, tossing our own money into the mix, and when we hit the jackpot, there's no rule saying we have to share the spoils. Can't blame the winner if they're not in a generous mood. We don't know their gambling backstory – just 'cause they scored this time doesn't mean they're in profit overall. So, let's not be too hasty with judgment. If there's nothin' good to say, might as well zip it.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: dunfida on November 23, 2023, 11:46:02 AM
The winner should just be messing with the person whom he handed with some almost worthless cash. But really, is it such a big deal that needs to be broadcasted to the world? I mean, we're all in the gambling game, tossing our own money into the mix, and when we hit the jackpot, there's no rule saying we have to share the spoils. Can't blame the winner if they're not in a generous mood. We don't know their gambling backstory – just 'cause they scored this time doesn't mean they're in profit overall. So, let's not be too hasty with judgment. If there's nothin' good to say, might as well zip it.
Dont play with fire if you cant really be able to handle it out, yes its a form of teasing but it might really be that resulting into a bigger problem knowing that there are people who cant really be easily joked on
or you could really be able to tease. There are ones might really be that putting up attention and there might be some who would really get easily angry and might really be ending up for you to face up some argument or worst it might be ending up on a trouble. This is why it is better that if there's something that you could be able to give then better give out according into your own will but not something that it is really that something worthless. It would really be that totally insulting if you do really do such thing.

I agree on what most people been saying that someone shouldnt really be entitled on getting some amounts on someones win just because they did make some suggestions.
This is why i dont really like on involving someone when i do make out some bets yet i dont really love or like the feeling that im really that obliged or needed
to share up my winnings on the time that i do make some hit.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Hypnosis00 on November 23, 2023, 11:52:55 AM

This is why i dont really like on involving someone when i do make out some bets yet i dont really love or like the feeling that im really that obliged or needed
to share up my winnings on the time that i do make some hit.

The sweet spot for gambling is at home, where your betting business stays between you and the site admin. No prying eyes, no one breathing down your neck if you hit the jackpot. Perfect for serious gamblers who want zero distractions. Now, if you're out and about in public, well, you can't dodge those situations. It's your call whether you want to share your winnings or not. Just a friendly reminder though, let's not step on anyone's toes. Gamblers can be a touchy bunch, and things might get messy if someone feels disrespected.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: 0t3p0t on November 23, 2023, 12:07:02 PM
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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Correct. As long as it is your own money you spend on gambling it is none of other peoples business anymore. You are the boss of your own winnings. You decide on what is good for you and your bets. Either you want to share giveaways with other gamblers or not it is always up to you.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: khiholangkang on November 23, 2023, 12:16:01 PM
As far as I know gambling does not have such rules, but maybe in some places it is the norm for gamblers in other parts of the world, I don't know about the culture of gambling in other parts of the world, but as far as I know that when we do gambling and then we get a big profit then there is no right for anyone to the winnings that I get from gambling.

Or maybe there was some language amongst gambling peers that agreed to that, that's beyond common knowledge, and yes if that's the case it's most likely that someone asking for their rights is normal to the jackpot winner.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on November 23, 2023, 12:25:13 PM
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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Correct. As long as it is your own money you spend on gambling it is none of other peoples business anymore. You are the boss of your own winnings. You decide on what is good for you and your bets. Either you want to share giveaways with other gamblers or not it is always up to you.
Well, for me, I personally feel that this is not even an issue we should be discussing about, because I do not see any merit in it, there is nothing complex here to warrant any attention or arguments.

Anybody in their sane mind knows what is right from wrong when it comes to how a gambler should spend his or her big winnings, and let me say this, if for example I am given a game to play, and I play it with my money and lose, does it make any sense to hold the person who gave me the game responsible for my loss? And ask him to pay me back my money I lost on his game.? Of course it makes no sense..

Same also, it makes absolutely no sense for a person to feel entitled in the money I won from a game he or she gave me, because it is still a risk I took on my own, if I had lost the money, he or she wouldnt have refunded me even if its half of it, so why feel like I owe you homage when the game won? When you also have your own winning to enjoy, I see nothing here but greed.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Wiwo on November 23, 2023, 08:39:59 PM
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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Correct. As long as it is your own money you spend on gambling it is none of other peoples business anymore. You are the boss of your own winnings. You decide on what is good for you and your bets. Whether you want to share giveaways with other gamblers or not it is always up to you.
I don't know why some gamblers feels that it is the right to share in the winnings of others and the reason why I like playing in online casinos since it gives me the privacy that I deserve to keep myself unchecked at all time and to avoid over dependency when the jackpot happens,  because a lot of time,  those that win in gambling after sharing their winning with those demanding for it or friends,  they end up with nothing,  and that doesn't make any sense at all since they the bone who took all the risk and no one will compensate or support them when their lose.

So why then should anyone be demanding for a share in the winnings when they don't have any direct connection to the winning or have committed any finances while the gambler takes the risk to win the amount,  so regardless one needs to be determined to remain focused and not be at obligation to give them any share.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Gozie51 on November 23, 2023, 08:54:03 PM

So why then should anyone be demanding for a share in the winnings when they don't have any direct connection to the winning or have committed any finances while the gambler takes the risk to win the amount,  so regardless one needs to be determined to remain focused and not be at obligation to give them any share.

Well said but I think it is more of the practice with the offline kind of gambling. It depends on the gambler to know what he wants to part with and nobody mandates him only his conscience and perhaps they do that either because they have also shared from that of others.

But like you said and pointed out regards to online gambling, that is the advantage. When you bet online, you have your privacy and nobody knows when you lose or win. But the risk and temptation of continuous playing is high to play online except you have a good level self control to stay with your budget.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Jody.Drummer on November 24, 2023, 12:56:33 PM
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IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.

Correct. As long as it is your own money you spend on gambling it is none of other peoples business anymore. You are the boss of your own winnings. You decide on what is good for you and your bets. Whether you want to share giveaways with other gamblers or not it is always up to you.

So why then should anyone be demanding for a share in the winnings when they don't have any direct connection to the winning or have committed any finances while the gambler takes the risk to win the amount,  so regardless one needs to be determined to remain focused and not be at obligation to give them any share.

It makes sense, basically there are absolutely no rules that tell them (gamblers) to share the results of their winnings and in my opinion it might come back to themselves, if they care enough about other people, especially some of their friends then it doesn't matter in my opinion if they really want to share a small part of their winnings as long as the will comes out of themselves and there is no encouragement or  coercion from others. I'm a gambler who sometimes likes to share a small portion of my winnings with my close friends, but I don't just give it away and I  will choose one of my friends who is good enough to me in the real world or I mean it can be said to be a true friend and not come just for profit. With that I wouldn't mind giving them.

But on the other hand it is true as you said they have the right to claim the right of my winnings if indeed they participated in the gambling that I did, whether they provided additional funds for me to gamble or maybe they provided a way that happened to be quite working at that time, if that is the case then obviously I think I will not mind giving them a portion of my winnings even though maybe they are not one of my true friends.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Saisher on November 24, 2023, 01:21:28 PM


It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.



Sharing of winning by the winning gamblers to whoever should be voluntary because we don't know how much money the winner lost in the past for people to ask for bigger shares, some winners of this huge amount waited for years and spent a lot of money and sometimes they just break even I know some friends who are happy with their winnings but deep in their heart they just break even but they do not want to tell this to people, because people might interpret that they don't want to share their winnings.
Whatever amount they give to people we should not question it, because we are not a part of his journey before he reached that success.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: AicecreaME on November 24, 2023, 03:50:03 PM
It's one of my pet peeves to be surrounded with people who like to pry about your financial matters. It's as if you owe it to them that you have a good life, a good financial status, and for having the things that you own. Most people will let you feel awful simply because they are envious and jealous of you. Some people I know have this sense of entitlement that you should obey them because they have the better perspective, or give them something because they have less than what you own.

I don't know why these people do not feel shame about what they are doing. It's not as if it's their money, so the choice whether to give or not as a token of appreciation should still be yours. It's so irritating to be commanded like you owe them something. It's still better to give wholeheartedly. I'd rather let them be salty than to have my peace of mind and winnings be compromised.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: maydna on November 24, 2023, 10:22:01 PM
It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
Sharing of winning by the winning gamblers to whoever should be voluntary because we don't know how much money the winner lost in the past for people to ask for bigger shares, some winners of this huge amount waited for years and spent a lot of money and sometimes they just break even I know some friends who are happy with their winnings but deep in their heart they just break even but they do not want to tell this to people, because people might interpret that they don't want to share their winnings.
Whatever amount they give to people we should not question it, because we are not a part of his journey before he reached that success.
It is indeed voluntary because it is the winner's right to want to give away a little of their winnings or not share their winnings with other people. Sometimes, people don't want to share their winnings with others because they feel this is a difficult achievement for them, so they should keep the money for themselves.

We can see that many people rarely share their money with other people, especially if they win. They may want to keep it private even though other people come to them and really hope to get that money. So it is true that it is voluntary, and no one can force the winner to share the winnings.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Obari on November 24, 2023, 10:57:27 PM
This silly act of entitlement is very much rampant in my country which is same as yours op and most times, this is one of the reasons why gambling online from a mobile device seems to be the best as no one gets to know when there is a win or a loss but whatever the case might be,I think the gambler was generous enough as no one actually would have shared in their losses if there was a loss and op I don’t think it was wise enough for you to make the name and handle of the commenter from the x app obvious and it wouldn’t be a bad idea if you can blur out the name on the image.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: oktana on November 24, 2023, 10:58:59 PM
Humans are always like that. No matter what the young man wants to do, they will find something to speak on. If he didn’t give at all, they’ll say he could have given at least tiny. Now he’s given, they are complaining it’s not enough. Why didn’t the punter play with his own 100 (as per your currency)? It is even possible that the person in question was super grateful.

But let them answer; if he lost that amount of money, will that his fellow gambler want to share on the losses? Bunch of entitled people.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Quidat on November 24, 2023, 10:59:21 PM
It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
Sharing of winning by the winning gamblers to whoever should be voluntary because we don't know how much money the winner lost in the past for people to ask for bigger shares, some winners of this huge amount waited for years and spent a lot of money and sometimes they just break even I know some friends who are happy with their winnings but deep in their heart they just break even but they do not want to tell this to people, because people might interpret that they don't want to share their winnings.
Whatever amount they give to people we should not question it, because we are not a part of his journey before he reached that success.
It is indeed voluntary because it is the winner's right to want to give away a little of their winnings or not share their winnings with other people. Sometimes, people don't want to share their winnings with others because they feel this is a difficult achievement for them, so they should keep the money for themselves.

We can see that many people rarely share their money with other people, especially if they win. They may want to keep it private even though other people come to them and really hope to get that money. So it is true that it is voluntary, and no one can force the winner to share the winnings.
Whether you do like to give or not, then it would really be always your full right on what you should gonna do. They dont have the rights on being that angry or disappointed on how much you would really be putting. They are really just that too much on having that kind of entitlement that they do deserve much more.Dont know on where they do get that kind of confidence that they are really that asking something which isnt really that rightful to be ask in the first place. If you've seen someone who do make out a big win then better to be happy for them or congratulate.
Dont ask for money and let them be the ones who would really be opening on giving your address or something like this on which it isnt that bad at all
and something preferable or right.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: AmoreJaz on November 24, 2023, 11:01:02 PM
This silly act of entitlement is very much rampant in my country which is same as yours op and most times, this is one of the reasons why gambling online from a mobile device seems to be the best as no one gets to know when there is a win or a loss but whatever the case might be,I think the gambler was generous enough as no one actually would have shared in their losses if there was a loss and op I don’t think it was wise enough for you to make the name and handle of the commenter from the x app obvious and it wouldn’t be a bad idea if you can blur out the name on the image.

that is true, with online gambling, i guess we will avoid this kind of drama. unless, the person himself who has winnings will declare about his winnings to the public. that's his prerogative though. but with online gambling, you can keep your business to yourself if you want to.
people should learn how to mind their own business when it comes to this, do remember the fact that when that person is losing, are you giving him some money to continue his games? i don't think so.
and for the winner, he doesn't have the responsibility to distribute his winnings. the decision is all his because that's his money anyway. should not feel any guilt from what you decide on this matter.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Westinhome on November 24, 2023, 11:08:32 PM

that is true, with online gambling, i guess we will avoid this kind of drama. unless, the person himself who has winnings will declare about his winnings to the public. that's his prerogative though. but with online gambling, you can keep your business to yourself if you want to.
people should learn how to mind their own business when it comes to this, do remember the fact that when that person is losing, are you giving him some money to continue his games? i don't think so.

The online gambling helps to keep the secret in the winning from your friends and the family member.Because no one going to advertise,you had win big money in the online websites and in the social media.Until you allow to share about the winning to the other,the winning news will never reach the others.The gambler also take some interest to the business along with the gambling,So the business will help the gambler to play in the long run.The gambling sites also help the business sometimes by giving you more profit in the single game winnings.If the gambler ready to do the parallel of business and gambling will help to make good money at the final.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Obari on November 24, 2023, 11:30:06 PM

that is true, with online gambling, i guess we will avoid this kind of drama. unless, the person himself who has winnings will declare about his winnings to the public. that's his prerogative though. but with online gambling, you can keep your business to yourself if you want to.
people should learn how to mind their own business when it comes to this, do remember the fact that when that person is losing, are you giving him some money to continue his games? i don't think so.

The online gambling helps to keep the secret in the winning from your friends and the family member.Because no one going to advertise,you had win big money in the online websites and in the social media.Until you allow to share about the winning to the other,the winning news will never reach the others.The gambler also take some interest to the business along with the gambling,So the business will help the gambler to play in the long run.The gambling sites also help the business sometimes by giving you more profit in the single game winnings.If the gambler ready to do the parallel of business and gambling will help to make good money at the final.
Exactly and because of the presence of online casinos, I can’t even remember when last I visited a physical casino and I think one other reason why people also physical casinos is because they don’t have internet or even a smart phone and this is very rough survey from people around when asked and you might be tempted to ask if is possible for people not to have internet or even a smart phone in this modern age and yes to say that it is very possible for people not to have either of them and the best option at this thing to hit a physical casino which isn’t a bad idea except for the tipping culture and entitlement spirit possessed by others and there are also people who come to a physical casino not because they want to gamble but rather to partake in sharing if others winnings.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: EluguHcman on November 24, 2023, 11:45:29 PM
It is easy to say than to do. I believe most of those criticizers would do worse if they were the  one that won the bet. It is not any form of term's and conditions neither is it any in any page of gambling policies that one must dona give away of wins a bet.
Who cares when he looses? No one is concerned to know if he has lost more than that won in the gambling even though the winning was a huge.
The guy did even more than his best. Those that criticized him has other forms of earnings and making money and yet didn't make a global charity reputation.

A gamble won is not seemed a free fund for efforts of logistic such as stakes and logical thinking where invested and it is a whole lot that he may have been on the gambling table but couldn't take the winning not til a D-Day of winning is come.
Else those criticizers are the fans that funds realized through gambling ain't worth well utilized.

You can check this thread out that talked about a gambler who won and walks away in the present of his good closed friends.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5470004.msg63138973#msg63138973.
And I still don't blame him because he go bills to pay and responsibilities to take care of. So I would say he is a responsible gambler.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: wallet4bitcoin on November 25, 2023, 01:24:26 AM
I believe the sense of entitlement is not a common focal point across humans, rather I see it as a psychological state where one feels too important and too useful to another and therefore believes that he is entitled to a thing or two from that person either becuase the person is consistent with giving  or because there is a condition that prompts him to get from the giver.

A clear example of entitled people can be said to be parents but even at that, most parents don't want to be seen as that. Good a thing the government takes care of the old people cos this generation don't give a hoot about people who are feeling entitled



Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: justdimin on November 25, 2023, 06:25:44 AM
I strictly stand against the fact that any should be entitled to a wining form someone else, I mean how can someone even think of not been appreciative of a free money giving to you by a gambler who on his own part has experience some losses, beside we don't even know how long he has been gambling before making that win but, the ungrateful act is just so annoying. No matter the amount the gambler used in staking the wining slip, the money is still his, so he can do what ever he wants with it, after all not everyone would even do such a generous act in a casino hall.
With that kind of winning out of a small bet, the odds are also ridiculously high, and for sure it takes lots of trials and errors. The only good thing about sports betting is that we can also incorporate our experience, skills, knowledge, and other... positive traits, making the nearly impossible became possible. If we are being given some thing, whether it is huge or small,  we should learn to appreciate it. Being ungrateful is bad, and it makes us to not get any thing again next time.

Indeed, not all are willing do such act, even if we say that they already won huge amounts. So I still salute the gambler involved here in the article. No wonder why he got blessed and maybe more blessings can still come in his way.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: irhact on November 25, 2023, 09:35:56 AM
It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

The individual that won has no obligation to gift money to anyone so what he gave was fine and the receiver didn't complain because there are some gamblers that'll win that much or more and won't give a dime to the punters. It was his risk and the punters had no part in his victory so why do people think he owes him any appreciations. By the time that gambler gets home he would have lost most of his profits if he keep giving them out to random People that ask.

The family members will also want a share of the money won as the news would have gotten home before he gets home. If I was the individual in this situation, I'll live town for sometime as the news would had circulated round town and I become a traget to evil individual that'll want to get a share of the money. The gambler should just look for what he'll Invest in to secure his profits and not spend it gifting it to people that wouldn't be appreciative.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: dezoel on November 25, 2023, 10:32:14 AM
So why then should anyone be demanding for a share in the winnings when they don't have any direct connection to the winning or have committed any finances while the gambler takes the risk to win the amount,  so regardless one needs to be determined to remain focused and not be at obligation to give them any share.
Well said but I think it is more of the practice with the offline kind of gambling. It depends on the gambler to know what he wants to part with and nobody mandates him only his conscience and perhaps they do that either because they have also shared from that of others.

But like you said and pointed out regards to online gambling, that is the advantage. When you bet online, you have your privacy and nobody knows when you lose or win. But the risk and temptation of continuous playing is high to play online except you have a good level self control to stay with your budget.
As long as a gambler doesn't have someone accompanying them in the casino, they can hide their wins and losses that they get in a land-based casino as well. They should go alone, gamble, and come back without letting anyone know about it, and even if people come to know that he goes into the casino, he shouldn't let them know the amounts that they have won and lost because that is when things start to become bad if you tell the people about them.

If you tell people that you have won a significantly high amount in gambling, you will start seeing people coming to see you the next day and most of them will come only to ask you for money since they know that you have a lot of it because you have let them know which is what a gambler shouldn't do.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: passwordnow on November 25, 2023, 10:46:37 AM
But let them answer; if he lost that amount of money, will that his fellow gambler want to share on the losses?
For sure he won't. These people need to learn their lesson on their own and if someone wants to take that moment of giving them some share out of their good will, they must be happy with what's given to them. But if they are not, they will not receive anything anymore from that good guy.

If it's for the losses, tell them that if you're on a losing streak, maybe they want to have their share as well for you to give them that feeling of how it looks like when you're just trying to give them and then they didn't reciprocate.

Bunch of entitled people.
They'll face their own selves at the right time and that's going to mirror what they've said to these people that are too happy to give some money but they demanded more.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: angrybirdy on November 25, 2023, 11:33:45 AM
I believe the sense of entitlement is not a common focal point across humans, rather I see it as a psychological state where one feels too important and too useful to another and therefore believes that he is entitled to a thing or two from that person either becuase the person is consistent with giving  or because there is a condition that prompts him to get from the giver.

A clear example of entitled people can be said to be parents but even at that, most parents don't want to be seen as that. Good a thing the government takes care of the old people cos this generation don't give a hoot about people who are feeling entitled


What will be the possible reason of being self entitled person? seems like that person used to help the winner before or maybe he really just wants to show the winner that the money he got came from the pockets of his gambling companions. The latter part sound funny and immature way of thinking though, maybe he can think of things like that because he can't accept in himself that he is not the winner.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: slapper on November 25, 2023, 12:34:01 PM
It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

The individual that won has no obligation to gift money to anyone so what he gave was fine and the receiver didn't complain because there are some gamblers that'll win that much or more and won't give a dime to the punters. It was his risk and the punters had no part in his victory so why do people think he owes him any appreciations. By the time that gambler gets home he would have lost most of his profits if he keep giving them out to random People that ask.

The family members will also want a share of the money won as the news would have gotten home before he gets home. If I was the individual in this situation, I'll live town for sometime as the news would had circulated round town and I become a traget to evil individual that'll want to get a share of the money. The gambler should just look for what he'll Invest in to secure his profits and not spend it gifting it to people that wouldn't be appreciative.
Winning big is a shared experience. Shouldnt this extend to winnings? Casino psychology is about shared highs and lows, not just money. The gambler's victory may inspire others. Besides admiration, isnt there a subtle moral need to uplift his nearby gaming community?

However, the gambler becoming a target after winning is intriguing. It exposes human envy and selfishness. Winning requires strategy. While investing intelligently is crucial, isnt it also vital to balance self-preservation and community harmony? The gambler's temporary disappearance may be a strategic retreat, but does it also separate him from the community that applauded his luck? Where does self-interest meet community responsibility?


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: cabron on November 25, 2023, 02:27:42 PM
It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

The individual that won has no obligation to gift money to anyone so what he gave was fine and the receiver didn't complain because there are some gamblers that'll win that much or more and won't give a dime to the punters. It was his risk and the punters had no part in his victory so why do people think he owes him any appreciations. By the time that gambler gets home he would have lost most of his profits if he keep giving them out to random People that ask.

The family members will also want a share of the money won as the news would have gotten home before he gets home. If I was the individual in this situation, I'll live town for sometime as the news would had circulated round town and I become a traget to evil individual that'll want to get a share of the money. The gambler should just look for what he'll Invest in to secure his profits and not spend it gifting it to people that wouldn't be appreciative.
Winning big is a shared experience. Shouldnt this extend to winnings? Casino psychology is about shared highs and lows, not just money. The gambler's victory may inspire others. Besides admiration, isnt there a subtle moral need to uplift his nearby gaming community?

However, the gambler becoming a target after winning is intriguing. It exposes human envy and selfishness. Winning requires strategy. While investing intelligently is crucial, isnt it also vital to balance self-preservation and community harmony? The gambler's temporary disappearance may be a strategic retreat, but does it also separate him from the community that applauded his luck? Where does self-interest meet community responsibility?


The one who was given N100K was the one who suggested which to bet. The winner gave him a tip. I don't know what would he have said if it hadn't won, he wouldn't have the responsibility to reimburse the loss of N100.

This entitled man is envious and can't demand more from the 15M for it will be more embarrassing so he just bad-mouths the winner for giving him N100K. He could really used that N100K to also stake aas it will just cost N100 to win 15M.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Dickiy on November 25, 2023, 02:41:49 PM
I believe the sense of entitlement is not a common focal point across humans, rather I see it as a psychological state where one feels too important and too useful to another and therefore believes that he is entitled to a thing or two from that person either becuase the person is consistent with giving  or because there is a condition that prompts him to get from the giver.

A clear example of entitled people can be said to be parents but even at that, most parents don't want to be seen as that. Good a thing the government takes care of the old people cos this generation don't give a hoot about people who are feeling entitled


What will be the possible reason of being self entitled person? seems like that person used to help the winner before or maybe he really just wants to show the winner that the money he got came from the pockets of his gambling companions. The latter part sound funny and immature way of thinking though, maybe he can think of things like that because he can't accept in himself that he is not the winner.

In a group of people if there is one who wins from gambling that he does then I'm sure it's no longer strange if most of his friends behave prominently to him they seem to care so much about the winner and bring up some of their kindnesses that they have done for the winner, nothing but that just to seek mercy from the giver so that they can get a share of his winnings. Basically, money can make us know about the true nature and behavior of the person, so we can judge that there are many negative things about them.

Sometimes there are also some people like that who determine the amount themselves, they ask for a certain amount to the person who will give a little of the winnings, it's really very bad behavior, instead of being grateful because the winner is willing to share the money but on the other hand they set a certain amount according to what they want, I have one friend like this, and now I decided not to get too close to him especially when I gamble.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: johnsaributua on November 25, 2023, 02:53:51 PM
The unreasonable distribution of money, arena fighters pitted their respective hockey, there is indeed an element of cooperation, but such ridiculous rules, disgusting. Moreover, it is misplaced if he asks for a share of the money won by others so large, of course those who have capital are powerful, his money should be held instead of betting, let him fight with his own expectations, he gave it despite his reasons, but I am quite reacting to a character who cannot appreciate the gifts of others, working together does not mean arbitrarily. As a winner, if you want to donate, it's only natural, not arranged by others, this is extortion. Maybe it's a tradition among close friends in the neighborhood or the more experienced caste in the area, but remember that victory and capital are not necessarily easy.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: junder on November 25, 2023, 03:37:12 PM

that is true, with online gambling, i guess we will avoid this kind of drama. unless, the person himself who has winnings will declare about his winnings to the public. that's his prerogative though. but with online gambling, you can keep your business to yourself if you want to.
people should learn how to mind their own business when it comes to this, do remember the fact that when that person is losing, are you giving him some money to continue his games? i don't think so.

The online gambling helps to keep the secret in the winning from your friends and the family member.Because no one going to advertise,you had win big money in the online websites and in the social media.Until you allow to share about the winning to the other,the winning news will never reach the others.The gambler also take some interest to the business along with the gambling,So the business will help the gambler to play in the long run.The gambling sites also help the business sometimes by giving you more profit in the single game winnings.If the gambler ready to do the parallel of business and gambling will help to make good money at the final.
Exactly and because of the presence of online casinos, I can’t even remember when last I visited a physical casino and I think one other reason why people also physical casinos is because they don’t have internet or even a smart phone and this is very rough survey from people around when asked and you might be tempted to ask if is possible for people not to have internet or even a smart phone in this modern age and yes to say that it is very possible for people not to have either of them and the best option at this thing to hit a physical casino which isn’t a bad idea except for the tipping culture and entitlement spirit possessed by others and there are also people who come to a physical casino not because they want to gamble but rather to partake in sharing if others winnings.

I think for now most of them (gamblers) prefer to participate in some online-based casinos, because there are quite a lot of conveniences that they get there, and also on the other hand it is very easy to access just by using their cellphones, so if measured in percentage then maybe it's about 80% of people who prefer to participate in online casinos compared to physical because on the other hand they also want to keep up with the times that are all sophisticated and modern, and also like you said for some of them who prefer to visit physical casinos maybe it's because they don't have access to get involved in online-based casinos like not having a cellphone, that's quite reasonable.

Of course I think there are still some other reasons that make them participate in physical casinos, I see that there are also those who have a pretty good ability to keep up with the times like they have cell phones to access online casinos but they prefer to join physical casinos, I think one of the reasons that is quite easy to guess is because they want a lively atmosphere and want to establish close relationships with many people in person.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: letteredhub on December 12, 2023, 09:15:01 PM
I believe the sense of entitlement is not a common focal point across humans, rather I see it as a psychological state where one feels too important and too useful to another and therefore believes that he is entitled to a thing or two from that person either becuase the person is consistent with giving  or because there is a condition that prompts him to get from the giver.

A clear example of entitled people can be said to be parents but even at that, most parents don't want to be seen as that. Good a thing the government takes care of the old people cos this generation don't give a hoot about people who are feeling entitled


What will be the possible reason of being self entitled person? seems like that person used to help the winner before or maybe he really just wants to show the winner that the money he got came from the pockets of his gambling companions. The latter part sound funny and immature way of thinking though, maybe he can think of things like that because he can't accept in himself that he is not the winner.
From what you have said I think self entitlement people do feel that you are not worthy of having or being in possession of what you have and that it should have been them getting that thing and not you. It's like they feel it's an error you're the one in possession and due to that you are not supposed to give me a little of that which you have but to give themin the amount they desire from you. That's could be the reason why this gamblers cheerfulness wasn't appreciated be rather repudiated as something little from what ought to be given from the total amount won.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Fatunad on December 12, 2023, 09:34:56 PM
I believe the sense of entitlement is not a common focal point across humans, rather I see it as a psychological state where one feels too important and too useful to another and therefore believes that he is entitled to a thing or two from that person either becuase the person is consistent with giving  or because there is a condition that prompts him to get from the giver.

A clear example of entitled people can be said to be parents but even at that, most parents don't want to be seen as that. Good a thing the government takes care of the old people cos this generation don't give a hoot about people who are feeling entitled


What will be the possible reason of being self entitled person? seems like that person used to help the winner before or maybe he really just wants to show the winner that the money he got came from the pockets of his gambling companions. The latter part sound funny and immature way of thinking though, maybe he can think of things like that because he can't accept in himself that he is not the winner.
From what you have said I think self entitlement people do feel that you are not worthy of having or being in possession of what you have and that it should have been them getting that thing and not you. It's like they feel it's an error you're the one in possession and due to that you are not supposed to give me a little of that which you have but to give themin the amount they desire from you. That's could be the reason why this gamblers cheerfulness wasn't appreciated be rather repudiated as something little from what ought to be given from the total amount won.
You would really be having those doubts whenever there's someone who do have that kind of nice approach into you and it seems that they are really just that trying to impress you out and making out some suggestions
and on the time that you do make out some good hits then it would turn out to those people who would really be asking something from you or would really be having that kind of self entitling on which it do really
pisses me of and this is something that we dont really like on which it is really that giving out that feeling that they are really that trying out to make that advantage just because they did really make out something
that it doesnt really have that relevance at all considering that we can really make our own bets basing up with our own analysis on which not really needing up someones help.
As a person whom you do know that certain bettor, then you should really appreciate if ever they would be giving out some tips, if its just small then so be it and dont demand for more
on which you dont really have the rights on doing so.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Webetcoins on December 14, 2023, 05:52:46 PM
like you said for some of them who prefer to visit physical casinos maybe it's because they don't have access to get involved in online-based casinos like not having a cellphone, that's quite reasonable.
I don't see that being a good reason why people go to physical casinos or gamble at physical casino establishments instead of using online platforms because first of all, it's not something one can believe that a person in this era can have no smartphone or any electronic device, we live in a digital world, and even kids aged 5 to 6 years have mobile phones these days. Secondly, if it's about affordability-- if a person has enough money they can gamble, they should easily be able to buy a smartphone, they don't cost that much, at least some of them don't.

I believe that the reason why some people still visit physical or land-based casinos for their gambling activities is because it's more fun and the thrill is amazing. I gamble online when I want to, and the reason for that is that we don't have physical casinos around here, but if we did, I would barely gamble online.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: topbitcoin on December 14, 2023, 06:10:47 PM
Sharing some of the winnings we earn with our gambling friends is not a bad thing for us to do. as long as our friends also behave the same. Because I also remember that when I ran out of capital to gamble, I also often asked my friend for a share, who at that time actually won quite a big win.

But in the world of gambling it's not like that, because there are still many cunning people who, when they get a big win, immediately hide it and choose to avoid their friends. but when someone else got a big win, he immediately approached him and asked for his share. Even though this person did not contribute in the slightest to the victory achieved by his friend. And maybe you also often come across friends who behave like that.


And what is clear from the discussion this time, if we don't want to be asked by other people for the winnings we get, then don't ever ask for rights or shares when someone else gets the big win.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: goldkingcoiner on December 14, 2023, 07:04:14 PM
~snip

It's like taking a loan and when it's granted, its like you are required to treat the people around. It's really a nonsense attitude.

The world has gotten too greedy and far too shameless.

I would not have given anything. In fact after such a disgrace, I would have learned my lesson quickly not to give anyone anything that they did not earn. And in this case, nobody except the gambling winner is the only one who deserves anything.

But perhaps this is a cultural thing? That would make more sense and I could understand that. I know that in some African countries for example, sharing your newfound wealth among the community is considered natural and anyone who does not share is viewed very negatively...

Is there more context to this story, OP? Give us a link to the story?


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Dewi Aries on December 14, 2023, 07:50:33 PM
I believe the sense of entitlement is not a common focal point across humans, rather I see it as a psychological state where one feels too important and too useful to another and therefore believes that he is entitled to a thing or two from that person either becuase the person is consistent with giving  or because there is a condition that prompts him to get from the giver.

A clear example of entitled people can be said to be parents but even at that, most parents don't want to be seen as that. Good a thing the government takes care of the old people cos this generation don't give a hoot about people who are feeling entitled


What will be the possible reason of being self entitled person? seems like that person used to help the winner before or maybe he really just wants to show the winner that the money he got came from the pockets of his gambling companions. The latter part sound funny and immature way of thinking though, maybe he can think of things like that because he can't accept in himself that he is not the winner.
From what you have said I think self entitlement people do feel that you are not worthy of having or being in possession of what you have and that it should have been them getting that thing and not you. It's like they feel it's an error you're the one in possession and due to that you are not supposed to give me a little of that which you have but to give themin the amount they desire from you. That's could be the reason why this gamblers cheerfulness wasn't appreciated be rather repudiated as something little from what ought to be given from the total amount won.

The immaturity in dealing with things and also the high level of envy that exists in a person will certainly lead to jealousy, that's right and I think people like that don't really understand the concept of luck in gambling where everything is nothing more than a piece of luck, especially in terms of winning, so if you lose and your friend wins then that means you are unlucky and your friend is in his lucky period. Claiming rights to other people's winnings I think is unethical to do, you should not ask or even by putting the amount that the person should give you, it's a shame. It's simple if your friend wants to share some of their winnings with you then you can accept it but if they don't want to give it at all then that's their right.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Mahanton on December 14, 2023, 07:51:04 PM
~snip

It's like taking a loan and when it's granted, its like you are required to treat the people around. It's really a nonsense attitude.

The world has gotten too greedy and far too shameless.

I would not have given anything. In fact after such a disgrace, I would have learned my lesson quickly not to give anyone anything that they did not earn. And in this case, nobody except the gambling winner is the only one who deserves anything.

But perhaps this is a cultural thing? That would make more sense and I could understand that. I know that in some African countries for example, sharing your newfound wealth among the community is considered natural and anyone who does not share is viewed very negatively...

Is there more context to this story, OP? Give us a link to the story?
Its never been that a cultural kind of thing but it did really just turn out to be something that people would really be seeing this to be standard behavior or really looks like that you should really be that responsible on giving out with those kind of giving some bonuses into those people who had been able to help you out on making up bets but actually it isnt really something necessary or something that would really be relevant because we do know that its our money that had been risked out and not theirs and if it do looks that you are really that being obliged on giving up some money on the time that you do make up some good wins on which its never
been that something right after all. Its your money that had been risked out and not theirs and this is something that you should be putting up into your mind.

There are really just those people who are really that too shameless on acting something on which arent supposed to be act on that way because they dont really have any rights on asking out
something which we know that it isnt really just that right for them to have that kind of approach into someone who have won something. Just better if they should be waiting
until that winner would really be giving out at least some small tips on showing up some appreciation but if there's none then you shouldnt really be that angry.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: skarais on December 14, 2023, 07:56:54 PM
Sharing some of the winnings we earn with our gambling friends is not a bad thing for us to do. as long as our friends also behave the same. Because I also remember that when I ran out of capital to gamble, I also often asked my friend for a share, who at that time actually won quite a big win.

But in the world of gambling it's not like that, because there are still many cunning people who, when they get a big win, immediately hide it and choose to avoid their friends. but when someone else got a big win, he immediately approached him and asked for his share. Even though this person did not contribute in the slightest to the victory achieved by his friend. And maybe you also often come across friends who behave like that.
Sharing is beautiful, so it can't only be done when you win a bet. The problem is, some people may be able to collect the rewards they have done for their kindness at another time, especially when they feel neglected when needed, this is a natural human trait that is difficult to prevent. Of course, whatever you can give to others, try not to exceed your ability to be sincere, otherwise you will always remember your kindness.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: AmoreJaz on December 14, 2023, 08:02:54 PM
Sharing some of the winnings we earn with our gambling friends is not a bad thing for us to do. as long as our friends also behave the same. Because I also remember that when I ran out of capital to gamble, I also often asked my friend for a share, who at that time actually won quite a big win.

But in the world of gambling it's not like that, because there are still many cunning people who, when they get a big win, immediately hide it and choose to avoid their friends. but when someone else got a big win, he immediately approached him and asked for his share. Even though this person did not contribute in the slightest to the victory achieved by his friend. And maybe you also often come across friends who behave like that.
Sharing is beautiful, so it can't only be done when you win a bet. The problem is, some people may be able to collect the rewards they have done for their kindness at another time, especially when they feel neglected when needed, this is a natural human trait that is difficult to prevent. Of course, whatever you can give to others, try not to exceed your ability to be sincere, otherwise you will always remember your kindness.

but don't forget that getting tips from someone else's winnings should not be expected at all especially if you are not really friends with the winner. i can understand if you will ask some tips from your friends but to strangers, definitely not.

however, some people really have that kind of attitude where they feel they can really ask from random people just seeing them win. do think about the times where he is on the losing side. are you cheering him in any way you can, i bet not.

also, consider about the winner himself. of course, he has his own plans on how he will spend his winnings. just wait for him if you are one of the lucky ones who can get tip from him. if not, don't get butthurt. it is part of this game. don't take it too personal. otherwise, you will be sorry for yourself without reason.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Westinhome on December 14, 2023, 08:16:30 PM

but don't forget that getting tips from someone else's winnings should not be expected at all especially if you are not really friends with the winner. i can understand if you will ask some tips from your friends but to strangers, definitely not.

however, some people really have that kind of attitude where they feel they can really ask from random people just seeing them win. do think about the times where he is on the losing side. are you cheering him in any way you can, i bet not.

The gambler friends mostly try to get many free meals and gifts,loan from his winning friends.But he should understand the basic fact,the gambler or normal people will ready to spend for his close friends and not to all friends.And some of the gamblers relatives will start to ask the loan from their gambler who made the big money as winning.This was the reason the gamblers will not share their gambling involvement to their relatives.This was the common thing of the relatives of their wife most of the time.

Some people will try to get free food from the others money,it’s their attitude.So we can’t change them,but we can stop their behaviour by not encouraging them free food.Sometimes gamblers can give the free food because of their winnings,but they should not sponsor for their drinking.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: junder on December 15, 2023, 02:40:04 PM
like you said for some of them who prefer to visit physical casinos maybe it's because they don't have access to get involved in online-based casinos like not having a cellphone, that's quite reasonable.
I don't see that being a good reason why people go to physical casinos or gamble at physical casino establishments instead of using online platforms because first of all, it's not something one can believe that a person in this era can have no smartphone or any electronic device, we live in a digital world, and even kids aged 5 to 6 years have mobile phones these days. Secondly, if it's about affordability-- if a person has enough money they can gamble, they should easily be able to buy a smartphone, they don't cost that much, at least some of them don't.

I believe that the reason why some people still visit physical or land-based casinos for their gambling activities is because it's more fun and the thrill is amazing. I gamble online when I want to, and the reason for that is that we don't have physical casinos around here, but if we did, I would barely gamble online.

it is indeed quite strange that people in this era do not have cell phones, because generally as you said even small children can have them, also with technology they should now have cell phones as the main tool in today's life because it is also something important in today's life. even if they don't have enough money to buy a new cell phone they can still buy a used cell phone which has a fairly low price. therefore I think it is quite absurd that today someone does not have a cell phone.

I think it's true that the sensation will be different from online gambling, because in physical casinos we can see a lot of people and all kinds of people respond to gambling, I myself occasionally want to visit physical casinos, but like in my country it is not allowed to have physical casinos. therefore in my country there are many who gamble online.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: boty on December 15, 2023, 04:18:21 PM
Sharing is beautiful, so it can't only be done when you win a bet. The problem is, some people may be able to collect the rewards they have done for their kindness at another time, especially when they feel neglected when needed, this is a natural human trait that is difficult to prevent. Of course, whatever you can give to others, try not to exceed your ability to be sincere, otherwise you will always remember your kindness.
Sharing with other people will indeed make us happy in receiving it and we also have to see whether the person is worthy of what we give or not, because there are some people who we have given to them and they do not appreciate what we give so it is very sad for those who give it , it would be better if we never help people like this because they will feel that what we have given them is not enough.

Remembering what we have given to other people will indeed make us count what we have given to other people and also we will be angry when that person cannot help us when we need help from them, so it would be better for us to forget what we have given. we give to others and remember well the people who have helped us when we need it.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Tipstar on December 15, 2023, 04:39:00 PM
Sharing is beautiful, so it can't only be done when you win a bet. The problem is, some people may be able to collect the rewards they have done for their kindness at another time, especially when they feel neglected when needed, this is a natural human trait that is difficult to prevent. Of course, whatever you can give to others, try not to exceed your ability to be sincere, otherwise you will always remember your kindness.
Sharing with other people will indeed make us happy in receiving it and we also have to see whether the person is worthy of what we give or not, because there are some people who we have given to them and they do not appreciate what we give so it is very sad for those who give it , it would be better if we never help people like this because they will feel that what we have given them is not enough.

Remembering what we have given to other people will indeed make us count what we have given to other people and also we will be angry when that person cannot help us when we need help from them, so it would be better for us to forget what we have given. we give to others and remember well the people who have helped us when we need it.

Sharing the win seems like a worldwide phenomenon. As a kid, I used to sit around adults gambling or playing cards in hope of getting some tips or commission for bringing beers with the win money.  It's a good gesture in a physical casino a round of drinks to everyone on the table. And the amount do depend on the person and how much they have won or lost overall.
A person who has many losses and a large win is not entitled to satisfy anyone with a tip. Not just them but nobody is entitled to do anything. People can tip any amount to anyone at their ease and should not be morally forced to.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: pawanjain on December 15, 2023, 04:44:26 PM
Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.

People really have the audacity to tell others something that they can't even think of doing.
The gambler could have decided to give nothing at all but he still did and that is his kindness.
It doesn't matter whether the amount he gave is small or not but its still better than nothing.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: topbitcoin on December 15, 2023, 05:19:11 PM
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Sharing is beautiful, so it can't only be done when you win a bet. The problem is, some people may be able to collect the rewards they have done for their kindness at another time, especially when they feel neglected when needed, this is a natural human trait that is difficult to prevent. Of course, whatever you can give to others, try not to exceed your ability to be sincere, otherwise you will always remember your kindness.

And a person's human nature is always remembering the good they have done to others. Meanwhile, when they make mistakes against others, they often ignore it and just forget the incident, without any apology.

It is really difficult to be sincere about everything we have given to others. We always expect that the person we give it to, can return the favor for the kindness we have given him. Especially if someone doesn't know the word thank you. Even though I have done good to him, but why yes ... he even hurt my feelings by continuing to avoid me when he got a big win.

Besides we have to give according to our abilities, it would be better if we give something to others, then never once expect that the person will behave the same way. Because sometimes when someone has got a big win in his gambling activities, it often makes him forget about everything.
So stop hoping for others, because hoping hurts.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Litzki1990 on December 16, 2023, 05:16:16 AM
The first mistake that new gamblers make is to follow others directly. When the new gambler directly follows others, if we try to convince them that the new gambler is only thinking about the positive side of seeing others win, then that new gambler does not want to understand. A new gambler then has a thing in his mind that if another gambler can win that much money by gambling then he can also win more money than that. It is difficult to convince him at that time that he does not always have to insist, sometimes he needs to think with conscience. Before following others I have to understand that other people's strategy and my strategy are not the same and that the other person has been gambling for as long and has developed as much skill and experience about gambling as I have not. A new gambler has to decide on this aspect by considering this aspect


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 17, 2023, 06:49:40 PM
The first mistake that new gamblers make is to follow others directly. When the new gambler directly follows others, if we try to convince them that the new gambler is only thinking about the positive side of seeing others win, then that new gambler does not want to understand. A new gambler then has a thing in his mind that if another gambler can win that much money by gambling then he can also win more money than that. It is difficult to convince him at that time that he does not always have to insist, sometimes he needs to think with conscience. Before following others I have to understand that other people's strategy and my strategy are not the same and that the other person has been gambling for as long and has developed as much skill and experience about gambling as I have not. A new gambler has to decide on this aspect by considering this aspect

Sometimes newbies always try to Follow expert players in order to learn something, this is how sometimes on Twitch they can do different things by watching what they do and also copying what they do, just like on YouTube, because it is obvious, in one case the Things can turn out very differently, you can expect things that not everyone gets at once, but some novices forget that, if a player applies a particular strategy and it works, it does not mean that when he plays it will also work. , it may not work for you because things are like that in casinos, it is a matter of knowing how to win or knowing how to apply it at the right time, then in this Type of things the Novice must Understand what he wants in the casinos , their games do not have a pattern that they It is always repeated, because otherwise the whole world would not win and it is not just that, because the casino has its house advantage, it is above all a business, a company that guarantees its own profit.

So every novice when he sees these strategies and Blindly Believes in them, he must change that way of thinking, because basically it is not like that, it can work when it cannot work , in my particular case I did that and sometimes it worked for me, and I didn't go there, Sometimes I left my balance at Zero, and I didn't understand, I said that I was doing everything right , but that the casino was cheating on me, and that's not the case, and later when you learn how good the system is, because you realize that the things are not as one believed, that there are things that var y, the system is Different, and can make a difference, then I Understood something, that strategies are just that, that they are good for not always doing things under the same pattern, using the same technique because everything is going to a flat system, we are never going to win, in this Order of ideas we could think that things Work , as long as we play with a lot of Responsibility.



Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: FanEagle on December 19, 2023, 05:58:23 PM
I understand the hype people feel when you see big wins from others, I understand it because I also get it as well, so there is really nothing wrong with that at all, but at the same time you should not act on it neither, you should be considering it as just another possibility.

I get that it may not be all that much, but we need to end up with something that would benefit us all. I know that life is not always happy, and seeing others be happy makes you feel like you want to be happy just like them, so you end up going and just trying your best to get the same results.

The danger here is that it could cause you to not feel happy but instead feel quite sad about it because the result could be very different and you may lose a lot.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 19, 2023, 07:42:32 PM
I understand the hype people feel when you see big wins from others, I understand it because I also get it as well, so there is really nothing wrong with that at all, but at the same time you should not act on it neither, you should be considering it as just another possibility.

I get that it may not be all that much, but we need to end up with something that would benefit us all. I know that life is not always happy, and seeing others be happy makes you feel like you want to be happy just like them, so you end up going and just trying your best to get the same results.

The danger here is that it could cause you to not feel happy but instead feel quite sad about it because the result could be very different and you may lose a lot.
This is why it would really be that important that you shouldn't really make yourself trying to mimic out those winners or those lucky fellas on the time that you do play gambling because results would really be
entirely different considering that luck factor would really be always the real thing and if you do able to experience different result or outcome then it would really be bringing out that kind of frustration
and disappointment on which it might lead up into that kind of desperation which might lead into those impulsive actions which might cause even more losses.

Going back into the situation having on having that self entitlement on claims on others gambler winning then you should really be realistically be wary that its not your money that had been risked out.
Yes, you could really be able to make out some tips and hints or suggestions but on the time that they would be making those wins then you dont have the right on trying to ask
for some part of those winnings. Better to make yourself wait if ever there would be amount would be given or have not.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: swogerino on December 19, 2023, 08:07:20 PM
I understand the hype people feel when you see big wins from others, I understand it because I also get it as well, so there is really nothing wrong with that at all, but at the same time you should not act on it neither, you should be considering it as just another possibility.

I get that it may not be all that much, but we need to end up with something that would benefit us all. I know that life is not always happy, and seeing others be happy makes you feel like you want to be happy just like them, so you end up going and just trying your best to get the same results.

The danger here is that it could cause you to not feel happy but instead feel quite sad about it because the result could be very different and you may lose a lot.

In this specific case or many other cases like this it is entirely in the discretion of the winner.I understand also that amount is a very low amount comparing to winning 15.6 million N and giving only 100k as a reward to the person that helped you win that bet yet there is nothing we can do.

I also agree with the guy who tells him in life we can be better individuals as I think it would not cost that much to the winner of 15.6 million N to give 1 million back to the helper and this amount I am sure would have been a normal one as it would be about 7-8% of the full amount while the amount given is less than 1 percent so I understand that the helper feels sad.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Sanugarid on December 19, 2023, 09:14:36 PM
As elucidated in detail on the image the story of a gambler in my country who won a whopping amount of N15.6M  that's about $16,000 and out of his generosity gifted one of the punters a sum of N100k an act which IMO could be referred to as an appreciation for doing nothing.
https://i.ibb.co/ZL1r4YQ/Screenshot-20231102-195805-1.jpg

Getting to X  (twitter) some people started dragging and criticizing the gambler and calling him names, that the N100k he gave to the punters out of N15.5M he had won was too small and that he could have done better. Below in the image  is one of many tweets from the critics.
https://i.ibb.co/dJXzVbS/Screenshot-20231102-195626-1.jpg


On the contrary against the critiques some persons where on the side of the gambler saying he the gambler was too magnanimous to have released a N100k as appreciation for someone who did nothing for him or added nothing to his winning bet

It's kind of becoming a norm in the gambling house for people to act with some sort of self-entitement to other gamblers money just because it was money won through gambling. Some even go further to argue that using so little amount to winning so much amount of money you ought to share it with others in a ratio of 60:40. What a nonsense!

IMO, there's no law in gambling mandating that a gambler must share part of his winning with eith friends or fellow gamblers in the gambling house, for that, you owe no one an apology either or not you chose to give a penny whatsoever. Let stop the self entitlement claims towards fellows gamblers that won big amount of money. The attitude is disturbing.
source. (https://bit.ly/3saqSEO?fbclid=IwAR3ocsnKPVyW-OHcB-DkT-Z3oOxVRQtMWpQWMeYo0Qx-Un3IqzTMcX0ZjLA)


It's not mandatory for the winner to share what he won with a friend or anyone lol, it's a good thing the winner shared because if it was me, I wouldn't give it. There are really many people like this, even if you give, they will still say something bad, no matter what you do that is good for others, they will still say something. People like this are annoying, if you can do better than that donate your own money instead of hanging around or dipping.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: hedgeh0g on December 19, 2023, 09:30:33 PM
I understand the hype people feel when you see big wins from others, I understand it because I also get it as well, so there is really nothing wrong with that at all, but at the same time you should not act on it neither, you should be considering it as just another possibility.

I get that it may not be all that much, but we need to end up with something that would benefit us all. I know that life is not always happy, and seeing others be happy makes you feel like you want to be happy just like them, so you end up going and just trying your best to get the same results.

The danger here is that it could cause you to not feel happy but instead feel quite sad about it because the result could be very different and you may lose a lot.
Nowadays there is such a society that in most cases there will be much more hateful comments than positive ones, because people are almost not happy for the success of others, when everything is fine with them. This is exactly what happens, we begin to compare ourselves with others on a subconscious level, whether we want it or not. We begin to be dissatisfied with ourselves and our mood begins to deteriorate when our neighbor is more successful than us. I start to get into our heads that we are weak and look for reasons why we couldn’t do everything we had in mind. This is how depression arises, which will eat us away from the inside.

This is more serious than it seems at first glance, so it is better not to spin the spiral of your thoughts, but to do everything to the maximum and live your best life, then we will have no time to be distracted by such thoughts.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: livingfree on December 19, 2023, 09:38:47 PM
It's not mandatory for the winner to share what he won with a friend or anyone lol, it's a good thing the winner shared because if it was me, I wouldn't give it. There are really many people like this, even if you give, they will still say something bad, no matter what you do that is good for others, they will still say something. People like this are annoying, if you can do better than that donate your own money instead of hanging around or dipping.
These people truly are self entitled.

They think that a person should give back to them because they are fortunate and have won such amounts. But, that's not the real way of dealing life and winnings.

If someone gives them big or small amount regardless of the person's intention or whether it's personal money or just some giveaways because of winning, they shouldn't give the person negative reaction.

Take it or leave it, that's it.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Outhue on December 20, 2023, 08:04:38 AM
This is also happening out of gambling, it's something we now see as normal thing in my country, it happens in the family too, imagine everyone shutting you off when you ask for their help? Imagine you needing a vehicle to move some heavy objects and you know someone in the family has a lorry that can get the job done and they deny you?

But when your own time comes, and you get your vehicle and everything, this same set of people will come and start asking you to borrow your vehicle for a while, they have seems to forget all the maltreatment they did with you, one thing I though its just been shameless of them but I was wrong, I found out that they are trying to outsmart you, like indirectly calling you a fool.

I am sure that the people that feel entitled the most are those who will never allow anyone to do the same to them, it is all intentionally, forcing you to take a bow, pretending to be normal, as if it's the way it should be, let their own time comes, they won't do the same.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: angrybirdy on December 20, 2023, 10:16:43 AM
This is also happening out of gambling, it's something we now see as normal thing in my country, it happens in the family too, imagine everyone shutting you off when you ask for their help? Imagine you needing a vehicle to move some heavy objects and you know someone in the family has a lorry that can get the job done and they deny you?

But when your own time comes, and you get your vehicle and everything, this same set of people will come and start asking you to borrow your vehicle for a while, they have seems to forget all the maltreatment they did with you, one thing I though its just been shameless of them but I was wrong, I found out that they are trying to outsmart you, like indirectly calling you a fool.

I am sure that the people that feel entitled the most are those who will never allow anyone to do the same to them, it is all intentionally, forcing you to take a bow, pretending to be normal, as if it's the way it should be, let their own time comes, they won't do the same.

I feel you! This is usually happens to everyone, you will notice that if you are reaching for help from them but no one will help you and give you an attention because for them, you are just a normal family member and they think you will never progress in life like what they currently have but once you already achieve the life that you've prayed for, you will see that they will be the first one to approach you as if they did nothing to belittle you when you were the one who needed help.
funny but this is true.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Gozie51 on December 20, 2023, 10:43:21 AM

But when your own time comes, and you get your vehicle and everything, this same set of people will come and start asking you to borrow your vehicle for a while, they have seems to forget all the maltreatment they did with you, one thing I though its just been shameless of them but I was wrong, I found out that they are trying to outsmart you, like indirectly calling you a fool.

Human beings are of different types and they exhibit different types of character, some are selfish, jealous and envious. Those that have good heart are always taken for a fool, they are override just because of their nature. But however, keep doing good for the reward will always come in ways that we don't expect. Don't measure bad with bad but pay good to bad.


I am sure that the people that feel entitled the most are those who will never allow anyone to do the same to them, it is all intentionally, forcing you to take a bow, pretending to be normal, as if it's the way it should be, let their own time comes, they won't do the same.

You are right because some gamblers when they win would not allow you to know that there ticket is in green because they don't want to give you anything from the win not even a bottle of drink. They know if you are aware of the winning then they would have guilty conscience to give something out of the much that they have won so they would surreptitiously go for the cashout and then avoid you for the moment.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: junder on December 20, 2023, 12:23:29 PM
I understand the hype people feel when you see big wins from others, I understand it because I also get it as well, so there is really nothing wrong with that at all, but at the same time you should not act on it neither, you should be considering it as just another possibility.

I get that it may not be all that much, but we need to end up with something that would benefit us all. I know that life is not always happy, and seeing others be happy makes you feel like you want to be happy just like them, so you end up going and just trying your best to get the same results.

The danger here is that it could cause you to not feel happy but instead feel quite sad about it because the result could be very different and you may lose a lot.
This is why it would really be that important that you shouldn't really make yourself trying to mimic out those winners or those lucky fellas on the time that you do play gambling because results would really be
entirely different considering that luck factor would really be always the real thing and if you do able to experience different result or outcome then it would really be bringing out that kind of frustration
and disappointment on which it might lead up into that kind of desperation which might lead into those impulsive actions which might cause even more losses.

Going back into the situation having on having that self entitlement on claims on others gambler winning then you should really be realistically be wary that its not your money that had been risked out.
Yes, you could really be able to make out some tips and hints or suggestions but on the time that they would be making those wins then you dont have the right on trying to ask
for some part of those winnings. Better to make yourself wait if ever there would be amount would be given or have not.

gambling is a game of chance, where luck plays a role in this and also not everyone has the same luck because if that happens the dealer will lose. It is also not recommended to follow or imitate winners in gambling, even if they are given tricks, the results may be different from those of the winner. never try to force yourself to gamble because this will bring bad disasters, not only in gambling but in other things too if  you force yourself it will result in something less than optimal and even the possibility of bad things is better to gamble sensibly by not forcing yourself Continuing to gamble can be done to minimize the risk of loss that will occur, nothing good can result from forcing yourself.

and if they have carried out these impulsive actions then  it is likely that they will get into big, serious problems that can lead them to become addicted to gambling. This needs to be addressed so that addiction does not occur. It is best to avoid things that trigger gambling addiction, such as not borrowing money, Don't be annoyed by losing, don't get emotional when gambling, don't be careless in taking action, because prevention is better than cure, especially if you are addicted to gambling, it will be difficult to recover and the recovery process will be very difficult if you really want to leave this addiction.



Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Blitzboy on December 20, 2023, 05:37:56 PM
I understand the hype people feel when you see big wins from others, I understand it because I also get it as well, so there is really nothing wrong with that at all, but at the same time you should not act on it neither, you should be considering it as just another possibility.

I get that it may not be all that much, but we need to end up with something that would benefit us all. I know that life is not always happy, and seeing others be happy makes you feel like you want to be happy just like them, so you end up going and just trying your best to get the same results.

The danger here is that it could cause you to not feel happy but instead feel quite sad about it because the result could be very different and you may lose a lot.
This is why it would really be that important that you shouldn't really make yourself trying to mimic out those winners or those lucky fellas on the time that you do play gambling because results would really be
entirely different considering that luck factor would really be always the real thing and if you do able to experience different result or outcome then it would really be bringing out that kind of frustration
and disappointment on which it might lead up into that kind of desperation which might lead into those impulsive actions which might cause even more losses.

Going back into the situation having on having that self entitlement on claims on others gambler winning then you should really be realistically be wary that its not your money that had been risked out.
Yes, you could really be able to make out some tips and hints or suggestions but on the time that they would be making those wins then you dont have the right on trying to ask
for some part of those winnings. Better to make yourself wait if ever there would be amount would be given or have not.
The unpredictable nature of gambling must first be understood. Each dice throw and card turn is independent of prior outcomes. Gambling is risky because of this randomness. We must remember that luck is ours. Not portable or replicable. Imitating others' techniques or expecting their luck is a myth.

Emotional modulation. As you said, gambling's ups and downs can cause frustration and despair. Gambling should be fun, not money. Self-imposed time and money constraints are healthy. Knowing when to stop is as important as playing.

Entitlement: never feel entitled to others' wins. Gambling is personal and risky. Expecting a portion of someone else's achievement is different from giving guidance. Separating one's gambling path from others' is respectful and wise. Please focus on our own decisions and accept their results gracefully.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Accardo on December 20, 2023, 05:59:23 PM
This is also happening out of gambling, it's something we now see as normal thing in my country, it happens in the family too, imagine everyone shutting you off when you ask for their help? Imagine you needing a vehicle to move some heavy objects and you know someone in the family has a lorry that can get the job done and they deny you?

But when your own time comes, and you get your vehicle and everything, this same set of people will come and start asking you to borrow your vehicle for a while, they have seems to forget all the maltreatment they did with you, one thing I though its just been shameless of them but I was wrong, I found out that they are trying to outsmart you, like indirectly calling you a fool.

I am sure that the people that feel entitled the most are those who will never allow anyone to do the same to them, it is all intentionally, forcing you to take a bow, pretending to be normal, as if it's the way it should be, let their own time comes, they won't do the same.

I feel you! This is usually happens to everyone, you will notice that if you are reaching for help from them but no one will help you and give you an attention because for them, you are just a normal family member and they think you will never progress in life like what they currently have but once you already achieve the life that you've prayed for, you will see that they will be the first one to approach you as if they did nothing to belittle you when you were the one who needed help.
funny but this is true.

These are mostly underdogs in society, people rarely believe they'll skyrocket financially someday, hence treat them like a dead dog and try to low ball them. People love kicking on fallen men, not knowing that someday they'll rise and claim the responsibilities allocated to them in society. When the table turns and the underdog becomes a prominent person in society, the same people who looked down on him would run coming to him for help, not just genuinely asking for help, but feeling in them the entitlement of getting help from the person. At first, the belief within them doesn't diminish immediately as they'll wait for the person to fall financially again, but once they realize he's now made man, they'll come to claim that the said person was their friend, when he had nothing. Many people experience similar reactions outside of gambling even in the family. Take the story of Joseph in the bible, even that of David, and Mephibosheth son of Jonathan.

Most people who were looked down upon, stood up strong and ruled over their peers. Moving forward, in the context of this thread, the gambler in question doesn't owe anybody some explanation for giving out few funds to the punter. That's not his business. He's paid his dues before staking the game and he came out lucky. Though he won the jackpot and was supposed to do more according to those Twitter users, the money he gave, is it not better than nothing? I mean those people are ingrates, they show no appreciation for any form of tip they get from gamblers. They feel like the gambler has some connections with them which mandates him to pay a certain percentage of his earnings in gambling after winning. That's why most people wouldn't book games in the game house anymore, due to such entitlements. They are mainly stingy people, seeking to reap where they didn't sow. No need giving them some attention. They'll always have something to say. They expect him to divide his winning into two parts and give one to the punter. Hmm.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: DubemIfedigbo001 on December 21, 2023, 06:13:40 AM
Most of those news coming from this legit new outlet are fake but that not withstanding since we can still learn one or two lessons from the discussions,  because the topic is most appropriate at this point in time,  since gambling is something that comes with some form of unexpected outcome such as in form of jackpot winning like the case with the ops,  it make more sense to make sure we protect our privacy at all time,  because hard it been that the gsmbker in question just gamble online,  he won't get called out for such because no body will know about the wining unless those he be tell at some point.

This is a high risk situation for the gamblers because he already get called out on social media which will further expose him to ore extortion from those around him,  but what the contribution of the guy that is calling him. Out for sending 100k in the winnings of the 15 million.
Exactly bro, this is what you get when you gamble offline. People claiming right to your hard earned money and going as far as calling him out on social media. That's greed on that other guys part because he shouldn't dictate for the  winner what to do with his money. With the security threat all over the country, the guy's identity exposure can possibly get him kidnapped and funds  paid as ransom, leaving him with little or nothing after all.
The importance of privacy in gambling is 100%. Play online, win online and transfer the proceeds to your account and case finished. Continue your life as though nothing happened


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: Rabata on December 21, 2023, 06:36:19 AM
It is a rare occurrence, usually such occurrences will not be seen often. But it is possible for few people to do such a thing. We can spend money behind maximum closed friends there if we get a big win but never give him liquid money or if we give him the amount is very small maybe 5 percent maximum it will be below 10 percent in most cases. We will think that we will never get such a big win again so we will use the money for our own needs. But there are many people in the world who are not greedy for money. Based on this incident I can definitely say that person does not gamble only for money.


Title: Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings.
Post by: ethereumhunter on December 21, 2023, 10:53:34 AM
It is a rare occurrence, usually such occurrences will not be seen often. But it is possible for few people to do such a thing. We can spend money behind maximum closed friends there if we get a big win but never give him liquid money or if we give him the amount is very small maybe 5 percent maximum it will be below 10 percent in most cases. We will think that we will never get such a big win again so we will use the money for our own needs. But there are many people in the world who are not greedy for money. Based on this incident I can definitely say that person does not gamble only for money.
Indeed, incidents like that will rarely happen but it depends on each person. Some people distribute some money to several people they know so that they can also enjoy their winnings, but some people don't do it because they think this is their winnings that they should enjoy themselves. Maybe they'll give you a small portion of their money to celebrate. If the winning money is kept from other people, they will use it to meet their daily needs because that is more important than sharing it with other people. But there is no obligation for gamblers who win to share their winnings with other people, even people they don't know.