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Title: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: wwzsocki on January 04, 2024, 08:30:31 PM
I am submitting my candidacy for the role of the Polish board moderator

as a reason for this I will quote and translate recent comment from thread in our local board called "we need new mod"

Malevolent, our current moderator, has been offline for 9 months. He did a great job, but such a long absence is definitely too long. The lack of merit source is one problem, but the lack of moderation affects the quality of the Polish section much more, I notice that it often turns into garbage. For example, in the thread that talks about how large the number 2^256 is, we have been talking about the zero-value attack for 16 posts, which definitely deserves a separate thread, but there is no one to separate it and move it to. In the signature thread we talk about how casinos can be used to mix bitcoin. In the thread about the price of bitcoin, we are talking about ETF, and the thread about ETF is next to it and is little used. There are many such examples, and appropriate separation of discussions into separate threads would increase the quality of the conversation and the transparency of the forum. Malevolent took care of this as well as doing so upon request. It's normal that sometimes someone will refer to something and someone else will pick up on a topic in a thread that doesn't concern it. The role of the moderator is to keep things in order. Apart from cleaning, we are also exposed to spam and scam advertisements. It's strange that it hasn't hit us yet. I suggest nominating someone who will apply for a temporary moderator who will be a replacement until Malevolent returns, or even longer if he proves successful. Anyone interested?

We discussed that matter many times already in our local board, in quoted thread we decided finally to vote and choose a candidate.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477539

I have won that voting, so I started this thread, hope this is correct way to apply as mod?
Please let me know and if not I will edit this topic or start new one and apply in a correct way.

Am I good candidate?
I've been here on the forum more then 10 years and always helped to moderate it by reporting spam and bots. I have done more then 3000 reports with 99% success rate, received good feedback from others and am DT1 most of the time, also between most recognized members in Polish board, active there frequently.

Is worth to add that I am mod in Altcoinstalks forum for Polish local board from a very long time, i was mod in German and Dutch section when it was still new, am also a judge in court where people can apply for help when they get in trouble.

I think all of this makes me well fitted for this role, even as a second moderator or backup for the time of Malevolent absence, hope he will be back soon and I will be happy to step out when this happens.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: uchegod-21 on January 04, 2024, 09:13:24 PM
I am submitting my candidacy for the role of the Polish board moderator
Has anyone became a moderator in this forum by dropping applications? I think application is only for merit source while theymos selects moderators. Besides, there have been many inactive moderators in the general forum and theymos hasn't replaced them.


as a reason for this I will quote and translate recent comment from thread in our local board called "we need new mod"

We discussed that matter many times already in our local board, in quoted thread we decided finally to vote and choose a candidate.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5477539
Nice that your locals organised this themselves and came up with a winner. I also see that Cygan is a member of your local.

I have won the voting, so I started this thread, hope this is correct way to apply as mod?
Please let me know and if not I will edit this topic or start new one and apply in a correct way.
Congratulations! But I am not sure theymos works that way, otherwise I could also go to my locals and organise such a poll for merit source and moderation and I can eventually win.

Am I good candidate?
I've been here on the forum more then 10 years and always helped to moderate it by reporting spam and bots. I have done more then 3000 reports with 99% success rate, received good feedback from others and am DT1 most of the time, also between most recognized members in Polish board, active there frequently. Keep reporting spam frequently.
If it is about being a good candidate, I am certain that you qualified and being able to emerge the winner of the voting of your people is another evidence.

Is worth to add that I am mod in Altcoinstalks forum for Polish local board from a very long time, i was mod in German and Dutch section when it was still new, am also a judge in court where people can apply for help when they get in trouble.
I think the above portfolios doesn't matter, what really matters is your reputation here and the number of good reports.
WAIT: Did you say you are a judge? Maybe mixer owners may want to sue theymos in your court ;D

I wish you the best


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: lokas0506 on January 04, 2024, 09:54:37 PM
Am not sure if moderator = merit source so definitely it would be a big benefit for us on the polish board on the other hand wwzsocki seems a capable at an attempt to bring back some life to Polish Local Forum Board as the activity is dying down and on top of that there is no way to organise the threds ie. moderate
IMHO value of merit points is related to amount of advertising campaigns that people can apply for which with the space being saturated with huge number of competing projects reached certain threshold bringing the effectives of signature campaign down for the satoshi spent   


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: wwzsocki on January 04, 2024, 10:25:31 PM
I am submitting my candidacy for the role of the Polish board moderator
Has anyone became a moderator in this forum by dropping applications? ...

don't know TBH, this is why I also ask if this is a correct way

not only we don't know that but also few other Legendary and pretty active here members are not sure, so let's assume that this is not certain and i will wait for other members to comment on this.

I also haven't seen anybody that applied and was chosen but i never follow or followed meta closely. When we were talking in our local board such a way of application seemed to be the right way, especially if there was voting and all active lately members took part in it (yes there are only few of us left)



Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: SamReomo on January 04, 2024, 10:29:02 PM
I'm not a member of the Polish board but I think the OP deserves some attention from Theymos. OP is one of the best candidates for that board and everyone should agree with me. I don't know if it's the correct way to apply for a moderator or not but if Theymos reads such posts then I hope he may also consider OP's application.

I don't know if my support means anything or not but if it means anything then count me in. I support the OP and I want to see how much support the OP will get on this thread from his own local board members. Best of luck from my side. I believe you're a good candidate to become a moderator. But, the final decision is of course in the hands of Theymos.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: acroman08 on January 04, 2024, 11:56:58 PM
I am submitting my candidacy for the role of the Polish board moderator
Has anyone became a moderator in this forum by dropping applications?
I found a post(quoted below) by Mitchell from 2015 where he said he PM'ed Theymos and applied for the moderator spot on Dutch subsection when it became available. but then again, that post was from 2015 so I am not sure you can apply like that today.
I became a moderator because PsychoticBoy quit and there was nobody assigned to moderate the Dutch subsection. I sent theymos a message in which I applied for that spot and got it.

also, according to Welsh who posted this thread(quoted post below) "how do mod get selected? do they get paid? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461381.0)", Theymos picks moderators if the forum needs one.
Beauty contest, it just turns out there wasn't many contestants my year, but yeah on a serious note theymos selects moderators based on whether the forum requires one. Obviously, frequent reporters will be on top of that list, but ultimately theymos is the only one who knows all the criteria. I expect, there's quite a few different factors that play into it.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: Tytanowy Janusz on January 05, 2024, 06:13:26 AM
Has anyone became a moderator in this forum by dropping applications? I think application is only for merit source while theymos selects moderators. Besides, there have been many inactive moderators in the general forum and theymos hasn't replaced them.


as a reason for this I will quote and translate recent comment from thread in our local board called "we need new mod"

The only difference is that there are other mods and if general forum doesn't turn into garbage, you can assume that they have effectively taken over the responsibilities of the absent ones and are keeping up with their tasks. The problem with the Polish section is that we have had 0 moderators there for almost 10 months. There is no one to remove spam, there is no one to clean threads. We didn't know how to approach it, how to publicize the fact that we currently don't have our "Texas Ranger" for so long and finaly how to get a new mod. We decided to go the merit source route, i.e. choose the best candidate from ourselves and propose it here. If you have any advice on how to do it better and achieve success, we'd love to hear it.

I think the above portfolios doesn't matter, what really matters is your reputation here and the number of good reports.

Good point. @Wwzsocki, from what I remember, you used to report a lot?


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: tranthidung on January 05, 2024, 06:41:47 AM
Let's check past calls of forum admin when there was need for forum moderators. You can read to see how moderators were chosen in the past. Main factors can be personal reports and community support (vote).

  • Need several moderators (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15546.0) (2011)
  • pyccкий мoдepaтop (Russian moderator) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=35818.0) (2011)
  • Additional moderator needed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=105095.0) (2012)
  • Moderatorul sectiunii Romane (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=171953.0) (2013)
  • Moderator (Greek) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=201738.0) (2013)
  • Moderatora (Croatian) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=906983.0) (2014)
  • Moderator (BitcoinJ) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1676935.0) (2016)
  • New moderator needed (Korean) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764772.0) (2017)

It is the case of @mole0815 who was appointed years ago. A latest appointed moderator if I am right.
There will only be one moderator.

Report history is the most important consideration for a moderator candidate. Over the forum's many years, relatively "newbie" members with good report histories have consistently done much better as mods than veteran, well-respected members with poor report histories. That said, not all reports are equal, so a simple report count doesn't tell the whole story. Also, in addition to report histories, it's necessary to consider factors such as the ability of the candidate to be neutral, their trustworthiness, etc. It's also nice to choose a moderator who people generally already trust/respect, but sometimes this is outweighed by other factors.

If a poll is created, I will not completely ignore the results, but I will also not use it as a primary influence. I'm more interested in arguments people have for or against certain candidates.

Here are the top non-bad report counts for the German sections over the last 6 months, along with the German boards which those reports covered (broader coverage being better).
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| o_solo_miner   |      69 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Anfänger und Hilfe, Auktionen, Biete, Deutsch (German), Mining (Deutsch), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Projektentwicklung, Suche, Trading und Spekulation
| mole0815       |      57 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Anfänger und Hilfe, Auktionen, Biete, Deutsch (German), Mining (Deutsch), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Projektentwicklung, Suche, Trading und Spekulation
| Souri          |      57 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Anfänger und Hilfe, Auktionen, Biete, Deutsch (German), Mining (Deutsch), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Projektentwicklung, Suche, Trading und Spekulation
| bct_ail        |      29 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Deutsch (German), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Presse , Projektentwicklung, Trading und Spekulation
| 1miau          |      27 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Deutsch (German), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Presse
| fronti         |      27 | Anfänger und Hilfe, Auktionen, Biete, Deutsch (German), Mining (Deutsch), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Suche, Trading und Spekulation
| asche          |      17 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Anfänger und Hilfe, Deutsch (German), Trading und Spekulation
| Lafu           |      16 | Altcoins (Deutsch), Deutsch (German), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Trading und Spekulation
| willi9974      |      13 | Biete, Deutsch (German), Mining (Deutsch), Suche
| yxt            |      13 | Biete, Deutsch (German), Mining (Deutsch), Off-Topic (Deutsch), Trading und Spekulation
(My previous list of candidates came from the same list as above, in order, but the numbers have changed since then.)

One proposal years ago: Suggestion to update the obsolete moderators from various boards / child boards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252771).


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: digaran on January 05, 2024, 10:31:10 AM
Lol, so you wanna become an official mod? Especially the one person with a shilling service for hire on service announcement board? Please tell me this is a joke?

Edit: what is this shill below talking about? Probably butthurt?


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: wwzsocki on January 05, 2024, 03:34:15 PM
Lol, so you wanna become an official mod? Especially the one person with a shilling service for hire on service announcement board? Please tell me this is a joke?

Edit: what is this shill below talking about? Probably butthurt?

First
It doesn't have to be me, it can also be the second candidate @Tytanowy Janusz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1925869) or any other person, most important is to get a mod in our local board

I stated clearly that i will step out when @malevolent will be back, don't ask for any benefits, just wanted to help

Second
When it comes to what I do, I run many services here on forum from years with success, there are plenty of members that worked with me as workers, clients, team mates, that I have cooperation with, they are entitled to give opinion and many left feedback if my services are trustworthy, not you because i don't recall working with you, we even haven't spoken once, so why you jump on me? because of shill word or chatters used on my website and offers, common, grow up.  

Third
@Lokas0506 is a great member from Polish local board, on forum from years, active and we agreed that Polish members will support this thread so they comment here of course.

Fourth
looks like you are looking for every occasion to make drama, I don't like personal fights, this is also why this discussion ends for me here


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: Tytanowy Janusz on January 05, 2024, 03:54:45 PM
Lol, so you wanna become an official mod?

I don't know if there is such a function as a local moderator, because in this thread the idea is not for wwzsocki to become a global official moderator, but only to be able to moderate our small backyard where a dozen or so users are active. nothing more. And it is only to do so temporarily until our current moderator returns. Do you really idealize this function so much that you demand from a candidate to be whiter than paper? Candidate chosen by the community for which he is about to do this function.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: lokas0506 on January 05, 2024, 04:04:00 PM
Well said TytanowyJanusz


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: wwzsocki on January 05, 2024, 04:14:25 PM
...Good point. @Wwzsocki, from what I remember, you used to report a lot?

I think, done 3K reports already with 99% success rate

...I have done more then 3000 reports with 99% success rate, received good feedback from others and am DT1 most of the time, also between most recognized members in Polish board, active there frequently...

I haven't checked my stats for a while, here are they:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/05/sR6u1.png

exactly 3063 reports with 100% accuracy, I am surprised myself  :o


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: digaran on January 05, 2024, 04:23:28 PM
Well, when it was needed to state my opinion about one of your compatriots on a merit source application, nobody called me a scammer, but as soon as I just stated a publicly known fact, I became a scammer? FYI, a mod should have some peace making skills to demonstrate, instead of ignoring the fact that this bozo lokas0506 just accused me of scam, he should have done a 5 min read to see if I'm actually a scammer or not, in order to correct this bozo. Typical tribal mindset, to discriminate against "strangers".


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: AliErkic on January 05, 2024, 10:31:25 PM
Lol, so you wanna become an official mod? Especially the one person with a shilling service for hire on service announcement board? Please tell me this is a joke?
You should refrain from your dirty attack towards wwzsocki or lokas0506 by your nasty replies!
Polish members are united to get a moderator.

I don't know if there is such a function as a local moderator, because in this thread the idea is not for wwzsocki to become a global official moderator, but only to be able to moderate our small backyard where a dozen or so users are active. nothing more. And it is only to do so temporarily until our current moderator returns. Do you really idealize this function so much that you demand from a candidate to be whiter than paper? Candidate chosen by the community for which he is about to do this function.

digaran is a one man show idiot and whenever he will appear he cannot be trusted

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JollyGood   2023-09-25   Reference   BEWARE: "digaran" cannot be trusted.

Today he rode a dirty attack towards Igebotz too https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462533.msg63445939#msg63445939


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on January 06, 2024, 03:27:08 AM
I don't remember where I read it, But I guess I have seen such words like What is the qualification for moderator and there was an answer like You should not ask to be a moderator. I would like to call our AI LoyceV for that because he remembers almost 99% of the writings that theymos wrote regarding these matters. Good report is the key factor as it is the only way to judge how good you are reporting them and how good you would be as a mod to handle those cases.

To be a moderator, your report stats and your contribution to the forum should be enough. I don't know if community support matters or not. But if it matters, then I support your application even though I am not your local. You have been there for a long time and you are a experienced campaigner.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: LoyceV on January 06, 2024, 09:58:53 AM
Good report is the key factor as it is the only way to judge how good you are reporting them and how good you would be as a mod to handle those cases.
I think it was a Global Mod who said it's been a very long time since a new Mod was appointed based on the reports he submitted.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: tranthidung on January 06, 2024, 12:51:20 PM
I think it was a Global Mod who said it's been a very long time since a new Mod was appointed based on the reports he submitted.
It can be Welsh. He shared his experience on how he became a moderator in his several posts and he was chosen as a moderator in like ICO spam waves in Bitcointalk.

Here is a post of Welsh but he wrote some posts about this in different topics like his interview's answers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262967.msg60412315#msg60412315) that has some interesting information about tasks of forum moderators and how they work.

Pretty much, and I've been reporting for years. However,  I really ramped up my daily reports in the last 12 months or so before getting asked if I'd like to be a moderator. I was probably hitting a 1000 on a good day (or bad depending how you see it). At one point I was literally waking up, and putting in a hour before work, and then a few hours before bed. I pretty much made it my unofficial job to clear up all the shit that was getting posted. This was during a time where spam was everywhere you looked because of the popularity of Bitcoin back then. Handling reports takes a lot more time than making reports though, because I didn't really care for accuracy back then, and now I've got to do proper research before handling a report to avoid as many issues as possible, and of course we still make mistakes.

This is a moderator was appointed when a member rank is very low, Halab.
I'll answer you with my example.
Registered in July 2017.
Appointed mod of the french section in July 2018 with the rank of member and 13 or 14 merits.
I wasn't the most active. I am far from having all the knowledge about Bitcoin. I'm not the most fluent in english, I hope I'm just understandable.
So you see the criteria for a local mod are not high. It must be higher for a mod in US section or a Global Mod.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: Learn Bitcoin on January 07, 2024, 02:29:47 AM
Good report is the key factor as it is the only way to judge how good you are reporting them and how good you would be as a mod to handle those cases.
I think it was a Global Mod who said it's been a very long time since a new Mod was appointed based on the reports he submitted.

I don't remember that. But, I guess I have seen somewhere you or someone else quoted, and the phrase was similar like "You should not ask to be a moderator" is the first condition to be a moderator. Maybe other criteria were posted by theymos several times in several threads.

Anyway, I guess this part is the most important and wwzsocki may want to keep it in mind;

If a poll is created, I will not completely ignore the results, but I will also not use it as a primary influence. I'm more interested in arguments people have for or against certain candidates.

Good luck with your application :)


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: cygan on January 07, 2024, 08:34:46 AM
why can't wwzsocki be given the opportunity to prove himself as a moderator on our polish board?
we should be really happy that someone has agreed to take on this privileged task
i mean the polish board, if you look at the statistics, is very clear (in terms of activity and number of users) so the new moderator would not be overwhelmed with numerous 'assignments' and we could then assess his reliability in his new role and if we were not satisfied with him after all, we would then get in touch

just my 2 satoshis!


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: tranthidung on January 07, 2024, 08:42:56 AM
why can't wwzsocki be given the opportunity to prove himself as a moderator on our polish board?
Why not?

He is a kind man and trusted person and I think the main question is just is the Polish local board needs a moderator. If local community needs it, wwzsocki can be one of best candidates. I knew that in a last time, the local board needed and voted for a local moderator, he is also one of the last chosen candidates. Eventually, malevolent took that position.

So why not him, this time?

we should be really happy that someone has agreed to take on this privileged task
i mean the polish board, if you look at the statistics, is very clear (in terms of activity and number of users) so the new moderator would not be overwhelmed with numerous 'assignments' and we could then assess his reliability in his new role and if we were not satisfied with him after all, we would then get in touch
This is an interesting experience of Welsh on how a new moderator will start working. I see it is a normal process like everyone adapts to a new company business.
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4.4. How do you feel about the idea of giving more authority to local moderators (ban of violators, bots, unban appeal)?
I tend to believe its worked for this long, and becoming a moderator you don't go through a course or anything like that. theymos gives asks you, and then there's a few things in the staff forum to guide you. If you're making mistakes or not quite hitting the standards that theymos expects he'll message you, and very casually guide you. So, reducing the permissions of a local moderator reduces any issues that could pop up, in that lack of knowledge stage.

Plus, local moderators can get in contact with the big boys (Globals/admins), and ask them to escalate any cases. So, it's not like we don't communicate. Its not like you'd communicate in a office, but you ping things over to the big boys, and they get to decide the right course of action based on the local moderator's input. The system has worked for many years, and honestly there's not to many issues reported.

I think it's fine how it is.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: pinggoki on January 07, 2024, 08:53:03 AM
why can't wwzsocki be given the opportunity to prove himself as a moderator on our polish board?
we should be really happy that someone has agreed to take on this privileged task
i mean the polish board, if you look at the statistics, is very clear (in terms of activity and number of users) so the new moderator would not be overwhelmed with numerous 'assignments' and we could then assess his reliability in his new role and if we were not satisfied with him after all, we would then get in touch

just my 2 satoshis!
I agree based on what I've seen in terms of his reports being a 100% but I think there's a process that needs to be followed right and this isn't the right way as many have pointed out @theymos is the one that's appointing them so it's up to him on what's going to happen next, I do hope that @wwwzocki will get the opportunity and it's not like he's asking to be a moderator for a popular board, it's just the local board for Polish speakers so give it to him or to the candidate that the Polish board thinks deserves the spot. Definitely a test would help to prove if he or the elected candidate for moderator deserves the spot, it's not like it's going to be a hindrance for someone that wants to be a moderator to do a simple test right?


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: cygan on January 07, 2024, 09:30:03 AM
that's what I mean.
what's the point if a user is/would be against his candidacy as moderator if he has nothing to do with the polish subforum and is only doing it to spite wwzsocki
simply said, it is only important for the polish users, who will be/is moderator in the polish board, because those are the ones who can evaluate his work good and bad. and if wwzsocki has the 100% approval from us then there is actually nothing against it


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: dzungmobile on January 07, 2024, 11:10:14 AM
malevolent was inactive as a moderator and a local merit source. If a new moderator for Polish board is assigned, it can come together with a new merit source as well.

pawel7777 requested for a new Polish merit source in 2023.
Request for the merit source for the Polish board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460251.0)


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: Rikafip on January 07, 2024, 06:08:49 PM
i mean the polish board, if you look at the statistics, is very clear (in terms of activity and number of users) so the new moderator would not be overwhelmed with numerous 'assignments'
This might be one of the reasons why it could take some time for you to get replacement for your inactive local mod. The more active local board is and the more spam there is, chances for you getting replecament mod will be higher.
At least that was the experience in our local board (Croatian) as we lost local mod back in (afaik) 2018 and never got a replacement despite being an active board, probably because we have very little spam and global mod had no issues handling it.

With that being said, I hope wwzsocki's applications gets approved!


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: wwzsocki on January 07, 2024, 08:56:35 PM
I want to say "thank you" for all comments left in this thread, I really appreciate your input and vouches

...we lost local mod back in (afaik) 2018 and never got a replacement despite being an active board, probably because we have very little spam and global mod had no issues handling it...

Looks like we have very small or even no chance in such circumstances,

hopefully this thread will at least attract attention of some "global moderator" and he will take care of our local section,

as @Rikaflip mentioned it can be indeed sufficient if we got such support from one of global mods from now.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: _BlackStar on January 07, 2024, 10:25:12 PM
Looks like we have very small or even no chance in such circumstances,

hopefully this thread will at least attract attention of some "global moderator" and he will take care of our local section,

as @Rikaflip mentioned it can be indeed sufficient if we got such support from one of global mods from now.
Your chances remain - they will become even greater if global mod are no longer able to handle thousands of reports from the section every month. But if your local board doesn't have a lot of spam or other reports that require global mod to give up - then your chances are very low.

Right now - I'm not sure if you can force admin to add moderators or replace any of those who are no longer active, but it might be an option to consider if admin feel your local board needs stricter moderation.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: xLays on January 08, 2024, 02:53:09 PM
...Good point. @Wwzsocki, from what I remember, you used to report a lot?

I think, done 3K reports already with 99% success rate

...I have done more then 3000 reports with 99% success rate, received good feedback from others and am DT1 most of the time, also between most recognized members in Polish board, active there frequently...

I haven't checked my stats for a while, here are they:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/01/05/sR6u1.png

exactly 3063 reports with 100% accuracy, I am surprised myself  :o

If I were the admin of this forum there is no doubt I would accept your application for being Polish Local Board Moderator due to the accuracy of your reports, which I consider as your resume that definitely requirement for applying.

Of course just in case I'm the admin here I have some questions for you: Would you consider this post as signature spam, like posting this just to meet the signature quota? 😂 JK Good Luck for your application!


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: TheUltraElite on January 08, 2024, 03:08:44 PM
3k reports? Wow, I got something like 1.7k and that too with a number of bad reports, though I have been less active in the last 4years due to work.
Seems like their previous mod has been inactive and I hope they are well, keeping the negative thoughts aside.

For support as an upcoming mod position if possible, OP has my support. Have known them from posts over the years specially from the Envion ICO fiasco which is still running its convoluted legal stuff. Helpful and knowledgeable indeed and elder member of this forum who should be able to make time for such a position.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: mikeywith on January 08, 2024, 11:32:24 PM
I don't know many Polish members, but I sure know wwzsocki is a perfect fit for a moderator and a merit source, nice level-headed guy. Good luck.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: cygan on January 17, 2024, 01:33:42 PM
since this is about the succession of malevolent and he was already removed as a moderator in the polish board, he should also be removed in the following boards, where he was also active as a moderator:
  • Goods (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=51.0)
  • Services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=52.0)
because he is still listed there


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: pawel7777 on January 22, 2024, 05:19:42 PM
As an active member of the Polish board, I'm just popping in to express my support for wwzsocki's application for mod's position (+ hopefully a merit source)

I don't know if there is such a function as a local moderator, because in this thread the idea is not for wwzsocki to become a global official moderator, but only to be able to moderate our small backyard where a dozen or so users are active. nothing more. And it is only to do so temporarily until our current moderator returns. Do you really idealize this function so much that you demand from a candidate to be whiter than paper? Candidate chosen by the community for which he is about to do this function.
This. We only need someone with mod's privileges for our local board only. So hopefully this is not asking for too much.

Just to recap - wwzsocki was nominated by our small community and encouraged to create this application thread, it's not like some power hungry dude just wanting to become a mod out of the blue. Hopefully @theymos will see this topic and will give it a fair consideration.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: criptoevangelista on January 22, 2024, 08:44:57 PM
If you were elected by the people on the local board, nothing fairer than having the chance to be a moderator, a good user elected by everyone, that's very good and a very positive fact in my opinion, that's why I support your candidacy and I wish you good luck.

Certainly if your moderation is bad, the same people who placed trust in you will be the first to complain.

You deserve a vote of credibility and a chance to get the job done.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: wwzsocki on February 22, 2024, 06:07:54 AM
Thank you for all comments, vouches and overall support in this discussion.

From some time I think to close this thread because looks like this is not the correct way to get @Theymos attention or this is not not so important for the forum staff that we don't get moderation in our local board or to say more straight Polish local forum members are not worth a single comment or attention despite we ask for it from so long time, even united we have no power to ring the bell so loud to make the right people hear it.

Polish local board members encourage me to keep it open but as we can see there is no comment from staff and for sure my candidacy for mod will not be approved that way, so one more time thank you all for support, I will close this thread after 24h. I will leave the possibility to comment and leave some final thoughts if somebody wants to.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: Halab on February 22, 2024, 08:26:18 AM
but as we can see there is no comment from stuff

I guess you meant 'staff'.

The other mods don't get too involved in this kind of topic, because in the end it's Theymos who has all the information and who decides.
There isn't a single process to follow to become a moderator. If every mods told their story about how they became a mod, there would be differences.

The best advice I can give is that members of the polish section should show that there is a lack of mod in that section by reporting. After that, who the moderator will be is secondary.
Another thing you can keep an eye on is the number of unhandled reports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5360272.msg57947734#msg57947734). I was appointed moderator in July 2018, traffic and situation was not the same (ICO craze) as it is today :
Period Dec 17 - Jan 16 2018. In this period, 20342 reports handled as good, 1433 handled as bad, 1482 unhandled.
Period Jan 16 - Feb 15 2018. In this period, 20764 reports handled as good, 1517 handled as bad, 2207 unhandled.
Period Feb 15 - Mar 17 2018. In this period, 15516 reports handled as good, 1487 handled as bad, 3698 unhandled.
Period Mar 17 - Apr 16 2018. In this period, 17700 reports handled as good, 1184 handled as bad, 4093 unhandled.
Period Apr 16 - May 16 2018. In this period, 19593 reports handled as good, 1627 handled as bad, 729 unhandled.
Period May 16 - Jun 15 2018. In this period, 21465 reports handled as good, 1499 handled as bad, 996 unhandled.
Period Jun 15 - Jul 15 2018. In this period, 29221 reports handled as good, 1542 handled as bad, 774 unhandled.

The latest figure on unhandled reports is 93, which is very very low. If I put myself in Theymos' shoes, I would say there is no need for a new mod, at the moment, whatever the section.

(This is my personal opinion, not an official message)


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: Xal0lex on February 22, 2024, 09:01:47 AM
From some time I think to close this thread because looks like this is not the correct way to get @Theymos attention or this is not not so important for the forum staff that we don't get moderation in our local board or to say more straight Polish local forum members are not worth a single comment or attention despite we ask for it from so long time, even united we have no power to ring the bell so loud to make the right people hear it.

You are not quite correct in saying that the Polish section has no moderator. The Polish section currently has five moderators. There are three global moderators and two administrators who can handle reports on the entire forum, including the Polish section.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: tranthidung on February 22, 2024, 11:15:24 AM
Another thing you can keep an eye on is the number of unhandled reports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5360272.msg57947734#msg57947734). I was appointed moderator in July 2018, traffic and situation was not the same (ICO craze) as it is today :
I did not update it but the past data can be used to support your point. With latest statistics updates from hilariousandco, total reports and unhandled reports drop a lot.

You can see unhandled report percent (the last column) drops with time till 2021 (with this data sheet).
In the meantime, there are percents of good, bad, unhandled reports per total reports.
  • good: good reports
  • bad: bad reports
  • unhandled: unhandled reports
  • total: total reports
  • good_p: % of good reports
  • bad_p: % of bad reports
  • unhandled_p: % of unhandled reports

Code:
     +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
     |       day        day2    good    bad   unhandled   total   good_p   bad_p   unhandled_p |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  1. | 25jun2016   25jul2016    5182    398         223    5803     89.3     6.9           3.8 |
  2. | 25jul2016   24aug2016    4623    352         270    5245     88.1     6.7           5.1 |
  3. | 24aug2016   23sep2016    4212    441         115    4768     88.3     9.2           2.4 |
  4. | 23sep2016   23oct2016    4440    404         165    5009     88.6     8.1           3.3 |
  5. | 23oct2016   22nov2016    4725    397         265    5387     87.7     7.4           4.9 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  6. | 22nov2016   22dec2016    4759    459         395    5613     84.8     8.2             7 |
  7. | 22dec2016   21jan2017    5479    390         353    6222     88.1     6.3           5.7 |
  8. | 21jan2017   20feb2017    6071    457         293    6821       89     6.7           4.3 |
  9. | 20feb2017   22mar2017    4929    573         480    5982     82.4     9.6             8 |
 10. | 22mar2017   21apr2017    4000    754         607    5361     74.6    14.1          11.3 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 11. | 21apr2017   21may2017    3561    478         553    4592     77.5    10.4            12 |
 12. | 21may2017   20jun2017    4427    472         749    5648     78.4     8.4          13.3 |
 13. | 20jun2017   20jul2017    4041    669         400    5110     79.1    13.1           7.8 |
 14. | 20jul2017   19aug2017    4638    717         576    5931     78.2    12.1           9.7 |
 15. | 19aug2017   18sep2017    5407    991         443    6841       79    14.5           6.5 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 16. | 18sep2017   18oct2017    6653   1116         716    8485     78.4    13.2           8.4 |
 17. | 18oct2017   17nov2017   11372   1353         804   13529     84.1      10           5.9 |
 18. | 17nov2017   17dec2017   16825   1685        1230   19740     85.2     8.5           6.2 |
 19. | 17dec2017   16jan2018   20342   1433        1482   23257     87.5     6.2           6.4 |
 20. | 16jan2018   15feb2018   20764   1517        2207   24488     84.8     6.2             9 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 21. | 15feb2018   17mar2018   15516   1487        3698   20701       75     7.2          17.9 |
 22. | 17mar2018   16apr2018   17700   1184        4093   22977       77     5.2          17.8 |
 23. | 16apr2018   16may2018   19593   1627         729   21949     89.3     7.4           3.3 |
 24. | 16may2018   15jun2018   21465   1499         996   23960     89.6     6.3           4.2 |
 25. | 15jun2018   15jul2018   29221   1542         774   31537     92.7     4.9           2.5 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 26. | 15jul2018   14aug2018   49835   1683         395   51913       96     3.2            .8 |
 27. | 14aug2018   13sep2018   36619   1432         552   38603     94.9     3.7           1.4 |
 28. | 13sep2018   13oct2018   40520   1416         679   42615     95.1     3.3           1.6 |
 29. | 13oct2018   12nov2018   31468    960         704   33132       95     2.9           2.1 |
 30. | 12nov2018   12dec2018   19843    880         533   21256     93.4     4.1           2.5 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 31. | 12dec2018   11jan2019   20871    730         683   22284     93.7     3.3           3.1 |
 32. | 11jan2019   10feb2019   19575    727         302   20604       95     3.5           1.5 |
 33. | 10feb2019   12mar2019   21308    794         181   22283     95.6     3.6            .8 |
 34. | 12mar2019   11apr2019   20213    846         246   21305     94.9       4           1.2 |
 35. | 11apr2019   11may2019   17343    669         572   18584     93.3     3.6           3.1 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 36. | 11may2019   10jun2019   18941    676         625   20242     93.6     3.3           3.1 |
 37. | 10jun2019   10jul2019   19801    698         628   21127     93.7     3.3             3 |
 38. | 10jul2019   09aug2019   35785   1295        1454   38534     92.9     3.4           3.8 |
 39. | 09aug2019   08sep2019   33700    665         823   35188     95.8     1.9           2.3 |
 40. | 08sep2019   08oct2019   22258    739         491   23488     94.8     3.1           2.1 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 41. | 08oct2019   07nov2019   16122    818        1507   18447     87.4     4.4           8.2 |
 42. | 07nov2019   07dec2019    7851    686        1284    9821     79.9       7          13.1 |
 43. | 07dec2019   06jan2020    7283    901         882    9066     80.3     9.9           9.7 |
 44. | 06jan2020   05feb2020    7941    814         191    8946     88.8     9.1           2.1 |
 45. | 05feb2020   06mar2020    8716    482         733    9931     87.8     4.9           7.4 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 46. | 06mar2020   05apr2020    6808    475         245    7528     90.4     6.3           3.3 |
 47. | 05apr2020   05may2020   11114    588        1156   12858     86.4     4.6             9 |
 48. | 05may2020   04jun2020    8693    823        1546   11062     78.6     7.4            14 |
 49. | 04jun2020   04jul2020   13551    334         398   14283     94.9     2.3           2.8 |
 50. | 04jul2020   03aug2020    5991    248         294    6533     91.7     3.8           4.5 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 51. | 03aug2020   02sep2020   14368    402        1039   15809     90.9     2.5           6.6 |
 52. | 02sep2020   02oct2020   15342    288         511   16141       95     1.8           3.2 |
 53. | 02oct2020   01nov2020   11813    253         894   12960     91.1       2           6.9 |
 54. | 01nov2020   01dec2020   17803    282         265   18350       97     1.5           1.4 |
 55. | 01dec2020   31dec2020   24595    357         493   25445     96.7     1.4           1.9 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 56. | 31dec2020   30jan2021   15008    263         880   16151     92.9     1.6           5.4 |
 57. | 30jan2021   01mar2021    5881    318         160    6359     92.5       5           2.5 |
 58. | 01mar2021   31mar2021   11127    385         872   12384     89.8     3.1             7 |
 59. | 31mar2021   30apr2021    8362    338         976    9676     86.4     3.5          10.1 |
 60. | 30apr2021   30may2021    5594    296         414    6304     88.7     4.7           6.6 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 61. | 30may2021   29jun2021   12085    195          94   12374     97.7     1.6            .8 |
 62. | 29jun2021   29jul2021   11187    222         145   11554     96.8     1.9           1.3 |
 63. | 29jul2021   28aug2021   14076    253         147   14476     97.2     1.7             1 |
     +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

You are not quite correct in saying that the Polish section has no moderator. The Polish section currently has five moderators. There are three global moderators and two administrators who can handle reports on the entire forum, including the Polish section.
They have rights to moderate the forum globally and different than local moderators who only moderate their local boards except if they get extra assignments to moderate some other boards. Examples are Welsh and Xal0lex (maybe more).


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: Xal0lex on February 22, 2024, 12:21:31 PM
You are not quite correct in saying that the Polish section has no moderator. The Polish section currently has five moderators. There are three global moderators and two administrators who can handle reports on the entire forum, including the Polish section.
They have rights to moderate the forum globally and different than local moderators who only moderate their local boards except if they get extra assignments to moderate some other boards. Examples are Welsh and Xal0lex (maybe more).

You're quoting my post that says pretty much the same thing you wrote. You probably didn't pay attention to who you were quoting. I know that, I don't need to explain it. You are quoting me and at the same time mention me in the third person. That's funny :)


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: tranthidung on February 22, 2024, 02:25:47 PM
You're quoting my post that says pretty much the same thing you wrote. You probably didn't pay attention to who you were quoting. I know that, I don't need to explain it. You are quoting me and at the same time mention me in the third person. That's funny :)
:D

I did that post for the OP, not for you. I thought to add (you) after your name but if it is like that, the post will be for you, which is not. So I did not add that part and it leads to misunderstanding.

I only wanted to add that there are some local moderators who can be assigned with extra boards even they are not global moderators.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: Xal0lex on February 22, 2024, 05:13:48 PM
I only wanted to add that there are some local moderators who can be assigned with extra boards even they are not global moderators.

Of course it is possible to appoint a simple moderator as well. There would be a desire, as they say. But I think that here we are talking exactly about having a Polish-speaking moderator in the section. Although I personally don't see any problems in terms of language barrier. But, if forum users from the Polish section really want to have a moderator in their section and they are satisfied with a non-Polish-speaking moderator, they can ask to appoint a moderator for their section from the current moderators.


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: pawel7777 on February 22, 2024, 05:28:26 PM
You are not quite correct in saying that the Polish section has no moderator. The Polish section currently has five moderators. There are three global moderators and two administrators who can handle reports on the entire forum, including the Polish section.

Thanks for clarifying. Personally, I thought that with the absence of the previous mod (malevolent) any reports are not processed.
Out of curiosity, is there any particular person out of those 5 that is responsible for handling reports from the Polish board, or can any of them pick them up? And how do they deal with them exactly? Do they rely on google translate etc?


Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: Xal0lex on February 22, 2024, 06:23:39 PM
You are not quite correct in saying that the Polish section has no moderator. The Polish section currently has five moderators. There are three global moderators and two administrators who can handle reports on the entire forum, including the Polish section.

Thanks for clarifying. Personally, I thought that with the absence of the previous mod (malevolent) any reports are not processed.
Out of curiosity, is there any particular person out of those 5 that is responsible for handling reports from the Polish board, or can any of them pick them up? And how do they deal with them exactly? Do they rely on google translate etc?

All global moderators and administrators have access to the Polish section, so any of them can handle reports from this section. I don't think any of them are specifically responsible for the Polish section, although I don't exclude that there may be some agreement between them.




Title: Re: Moderator application for Polish local board
Post by: wwzsocki on February 23, 2024, 08:27:13 AM
I guess you meant 'staff'...

of course, thank you, edited already  :D

I did that post for the OP...

Thank you mate, as always helpful info, really appreciate

All global moderators and administrators have access to the Polish section, so any of them can handle reports from this section...

Please read this thread, we have explained why mod in local section is very useful and should be able to speak this language to moderate correctly, as for example to merge topics but not only, marketplace offers, and common discussions can be understood wrongly or not moderated at all if mod is not native

when it comes to simple deletions of course reports should do the job you are correct


One more time thank you for all comments I am closing this topic now