Moderator application for Polish local board

[tranthidung]

why can't wwzsocki be given the opportunity to prove himself as a moderator on our polish board?

Why not?

He is a kind man and trusted person and I think the main question is just is the Polish local board needs a moderator. If local community needs it, wwzsocki can be one of best candidates. I knew that in a last time, the local board needed and voted for a local moderator, he is also one of the last chosen candidates. Eventually, malevolent took that position.

So why not him, this time?

we should be really happy that someone has agreed to take on this privileged task
i mean the polish board, if you look at the statistics, is very clear (in terms of activity and number of users) so the new moderator would not be overwhelmed with numerous 'assignments' and we could then assess his reliability in his new role and if we were not satisfied with him after all, we would then get in touch

This is an interesting experience of Welsh on how a new moderator will start working. I see it is a normal process like everyone adapts to a new company business.

4.4. How do you feel about the idea of giving more authority to local moderators (ban of violators, bots, unban appeal)?

I tend to believe its worked for this long, and becoming a moderator you don't go through a course or anything like that. theymos gives asks you, and then there's a few things in the staff forum to guide you. If you're making mistakes or not quite hitting the standards that theymos expects he'll message you, and very casually guide you. So, reducing the permissions of a local moderator reduces any issues that could pop up, in that lack of knowledge stage.

Plus, local moderators can get in contact with the big boys (Globals/admins), and ask them to escalate any cases. So, it's not like we don't communicate. Its not like you'd communicate in a office, but you ping things over to the big boys, and they get to decide the right course of action based on the local moderator's input. The system has worked for many years, and honestly there's not to many issues reported.

I think it's fine how it is.

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[pinggoki]

why can't wwzsocki be given the opportunity to prove himself as a moderator on our polish board?
we should be really happy that someone has agreed to take on this privileged task
i mean the polish board, if you look at the statistics, is very clear (in terms of activity and number of users) so the new moderator would not be overwhelmed with numerous 'assignments' and we could then assess his reliability in his new role and if we were not satisfied with him after all, we would then get in touch

just my 2 satoshis!

I agree based on what I've seen in terms of his reports being a 100% but I think there's a process that needs to be followed right and this isn't the right way as many have pointed out @theymos is the one that's appointing them so it's up to him on what's going to happen next, I do hope that @wwwzocki will get the opportunity and it's not like he's asking to be a moderator for a popular board, it's just the local board for Polish speakers so give it to him or to the candidate that the Polish board thinks deserves the spot. Definitely a test would help to prove if he or the elected candidate for moderator deserves the spot, it's not like it's going to be a hindrance for someone that wants to be a moderator to do a simple test right?

[cygan]

that's what I mean.
what's the point if a user is/would be against his candidacy as moderator if he has nothing to do with the polish subforum and is only doing it to spite wwzsocki
simply said, it is only important for the polish users, who will be/is moderator in the polish board, because those are the ones who can evaluate his work good and bad. and if wwzsocki has the 100% approval from us then there is actually nothing against it

[dzungmobile]

malevolent was inactive as a moderator and a local merit source. If a new moderator for Polish board is assigned, it can come together with a new merit source as well.

pawel7777 requested for a new Polish merit source in 2023.
Request for the merit source for the Polish board

[Rikafip]

i mean the polish board, if you look at the statistics, is very clear (in terms of activity and number of users) so the new moderator would not be overwhelmed with numerous 'assignments'

This might be one of the reasons why it could take some time for you to get replacement for your inactive local mod. The more active local board is and the more spam there is, chances for you getting replecament mod will be higher.
At least that was the experience in our local board (Croatian) as we lost local mod back in (afaik) 2018 and never got a replacement despite being an active board, probably because we have very little spam and global mod had no issues handling it.

With that being said, I hope wwzsocki's applications gets approved!

[wwzsocki]

I want to say "thank you" for all comments left in this thread, I really appreciate your input and vouches

...we lost local mod back in (afaik) 2018 and never got a replacement despite being an active board, probably because we have very little spam and global mod had no issues handling it...

Looks like we have very small or even no chance in such circumstances,

hopefully this thread will at least attract attention of some "global moderator" and he will take care of our local section,

as @Rikaflip mentioned it can be indeed sufficient if we got such support from one of global mods from now.

[_BlackStar]

Looks like we have very small or even no chance in such circumstances,

hopefully this thread will at least attract attention of some "global moderator" and he will take care of our local section,

as @Rikaflip mentioned it can be indeed sufficient if we got such support from one of global mods from now.

Your chances remain - they will become even greater if global mod are no longer able to handle thousands of reports from the section every month. But if your local board doesn't have a lot of spam or other reports that require global mod to give up - then your chances are very low.

Right now - I'm not sure if you can force admin to add moderators or replace any of those who are no longer active, but it might be an option to consider if admin feel your local board needs stricter moderation.

[xLays]

...Good point. @Wwzsocki, from what I remember, you used to report a lot?

I think, done 3K reports already with 99% success rate

...I have done more then 3000 reports with 99% success rate, received good feedback from others and am DT1 most of the time, also between most recognized members in Polish board, active there frequently...

I haven't checked my stats for a while, here are they:



exactly 3063 reports with 100% accuracy, I am surprised myself  

If I were the admin of this forum there is no doubt I would accept your application for being Polish Local Board Moderator due to the accuracy of your reports, which I consider as your resume that definitely requirement for applying.
Of course just in case I'm the admin here I have some questions for you: Would you consider this post as signature spam, like posting this just to meet the signature quota? 😂 JK Good Luck for your application!

[TheUltraElite]

3k reports? Wow, I got something like 1.7k and that too with a number of bad reports, though I have been less active in the last 4years due to work.
Seems like their previous mod has been inactive and I hope they are well, keeping the negative thoughts aside.

For support as an upcoming mod position if possible, OP has my support. Have known them from posts over the years specially from the Envion ICO fiasco which is still running its convoluted legal stuff. Helpful and knowledgeable indeed and elder member of this forum who should be able to make time for such a position.

[mikeywith]

I don't know many Polish members, but I sure know wwzsocki is a perfect fit for a moderator and a merit source, nice level-headed guy. Good luck.

[cygan]

since this is about the succession of malevolent and he was already removed as a moderator in the polish board, he should also be removed in the following boards, where he was also active as a moderator:

• Goods
• Services

because he is still listed there

[pawel7777]

As an active member of the Polish board, I'm just popping in to express my support for wwzsocki's application for mod's position (+ hopefully a merit source)

I don't know if there is such a function as a local moderator, because in this thread the idea is not for wwzsocki to become a global official moderator, but only to be able to moderate our small backyard where a dozen or so users are active. nothing more. And it is only to do so temporarily until our current moderator returns. Do you really idealize this function so much that you demand from a candidate to be whiter than paper? Candidate chosen by the community for which he is about to do this function.

This. We only need someone with mod's privileges for our local board only. So hopefully this is not asking for too much.

Just to recap - wwzsocki was nominated by our small community and encouraged to create this application thread, it's not like some power hungry dude just wanting to become a mod out of the blue. Hopefully @theymos will see this topic and will give it a fair consideration.

[criptoevangelista]

If you were elected by the people on the local board, nothing fairer than having the chance to be a moderator, a good user elected by everyone, that's very good and a very positive fact in my opinion, that's why I support your candidacy and I wish you good luck.

Certainly if your moderation is bad, the same people who placed trust in you will be the first to complain.

You deserve a vote of credibility and a chance to get the job done.

[wwzsocki]

Thank you for all comments, vouches and overall support in this discussion.

From some time I think to close this thread because looks like this is not the correct way to get @Theymos attention or this is not not so important for the forum staff that we don't get moderation in our local board or to say more straight Polish local forum members are not worth a single comment or attention despite we ask for it from so long time, even united we have no power to ring the bell so loud to make the right people hear it.

Polish local board members encourage me to keep it open but as we can see there is no comment from staff and for sure my candidacy for mod will not be approved that way, so one more time thank you all for support, I will close this thread after 24h. I will leave the possibility to comment and leave some final thoughts if somebody wants to.

[Halab]

but as we can see there is no comment from stuff

I guess you meant 'staff'.

The other mods don't get too involved in this kind of topic, because in the end it's Theymos who has all the information and who decides.
There isn't a single process to follow to become a moderator. If every mods told their story about how they became a mod, there would be differences.

The best advice I can give is that members of the polish section should show that there is a lack of mod in that section by reporting. After that, who the moderator will be is secondary.
Another thing you can keep an eye on is the number of unhandled reports. I was appointed moderator in July 2018, traffic and situation was not the same (ICO craze) as it is today :

Period Dec 17 - Jan 16 2018. In this period, 20342 reports handled as good, 1433 handled as bad, 1482 unhandled.
Period Jan 16 - Feb 15 2018. In this period, 20764 reports handled as good, 1517 handled as bad, 2207 unhandled.
Period Feb 15 - Mar 17 2018. In this period, 15516 reports handled as good, 1487 handled as bad, 3698 unhandled.
Period Mar 17 - Apr 16 2018. In this period, 17700 reports handled as good, 1184 handled as bad, 4093 unhandled.
Period Apr 16 - May 16 2018. In this period, 19593 reports handled as good, 1627 handled as bad, 729 unhandled.
Period May 16 - Jun 15 2018. In this period, 21465 reports handled as good, 1499 handled as bad, 996 unhandled.
Period Jun 15 - Jul 15 2018. In this period, 29221 reports handled as good, 1542 handled as bad, 774 unhandled.

The latest figure on unhandled reports is 93, which is very very low. If I put myself in Theymos' shoes, I would say there is no need for a new mod, at the moment, whatever the section.

(This is my personal opinion, not an official message)

[Xal0lex]

From some time I think to close this thread because looks like this is not the correct way to get @Theymos attention or this is not not so important for the forum staff that we don't get moderation in our local board or to say more straight Polish local forum members are not worth a single comment or attention despite we ask for it from so long time, even united we have no power to ring the bell so loud to make the right people hear it.

You are not quite correct in saying that the Polish section has no moderator. The Polish section currently has five moderators. There are three global moderators and two administrators who can handle reports on the entire forum, including the Polish section.

[tranthidung]

Another thing you can keep an eye on is the number of unhandled reports. I was appointed moderator in July 2018, traffic and situation was not the same (ICO craze) as it is today :

I did not update it but the past data can be used to support your point. With latest statistics updates from hilariousandco, total reports and unhandled reports drop a lot.

You can see unhandled report percent (the last column) drops with time till 2021 (with this data sheet).

In the meantime, there are percents of good, bad, unhandled reports per total reports.

• good: good reports
• bad: bad reports
• unhandled: unhandled reports
• total: total reports
• good_p: % of good reports
• bad_p: % of bad reports
• unhandled_p: % of unhandled reports

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     |       day        day2    good    bad   unhandled   total   good_p   bad_p   unhandled_p |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  1. | 25jun2016   25jul2016    5182    398         223    5803     89.3     6.9           3.8 |
  2. | 25jul2016   24aug2016    4623    352         270    5245     88.1     6.7           5.1 |
  3. | 24aug2016   23sep2016    4212    441         115    4768     88.3     9.2           2.4 |
  4. | 23sep2016   23oct2016    4440    404         165    5009     88.6     8.1           3.3 |
  5. | 23oct2016   22nov2016    4725    397         265    5387     87.7     7.4           4.9 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
  6. | 22nov2016   22dec2016    4759    459         395    5613     84.8     8.2             7 |
  7. | 22dec2016   21jan2017    5479    390         353    6222     88.1     6.3           5.7 |
  8. | 21jan2017   20feb2017    6071    457         293    6821       89     6.7           4.3 |
  9. | 20feb2017   22mar2017    4929    573         480    5982     82.4     9.6             8 |
 10. | 22mar2017   21apr2017    4000    754         607    5361     74.6    14.1          11.3 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 11. | 21apr2017   21may2017    3561    478         553    4592     77.5    10.4            12 |
 12. | 21may2017   20jun2017    4427    472         749    5648     78.4     8.4          13.3 |
 13. | 20jun2017   20jul2017    4041    669         400    5110     79.1    13.1           7.8 |
 14. | 20jul2017   19aug2017    4638    717         576    5931     78.2    12.1           9.7 |
 15. | 19aug2017   18sep2017    5407    991         443    6841       79    14.5           6.5 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 16. | 18sep2017   18oct2017    6653   1116         716    8485     78.4    13.2           8.4 |
 17. | 18oct2017   17nov2017   11372   1353         804   13529     84.1      10           5.9 |
 18. | 17nov2017   17dec2017   16825   1685        1230   19740     85.2     8.5           6.2 |
 19. | 17dec2017   16jan2018   20342   1433        1482   23257     87.5     6.2           6.4 |
 20. | 16jan2018   15feb2018   20764   1517        2207   24488     84.8     6.2             9 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 21. | 15feb2018   17mar2018   15516   1487        3698   20701       75     7.2          17.9 |
 22. | 17mar2018   16apr2018   17700   1184        4093   22977       77     5.2          17.8 |
 23. | 16apr2018   16may2018   19593   1627         729   21949     89.3     7.4           3.3 |
 24. | 16may2018   15jun2018   21465   1499         996   23960     89.6     6.3           4.2 |
 25. | 15jun2018   15jul2018   29221   1542         774   31537     92.7     4.9           2.5 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 26. | 15jul2018   14aug2018   49835   1683         395   51913       96     3.2            .8 |
 27. | 14aug2018   13sep2018   36619   1432         552   38603     94.9     3.7           1.4 |
 28. | 13sep2018   13oct2018   40520   1416         679   42615     95.1     3.3           1.6 |
 29. | 13oct2018   12nov2018   31468    960         704   33132       95     2.9           2.1 |
 30. | 12nov2018   12dec2018   19843    880         533   21256     93.4     4.1           2.5 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 31. | 12dec2018   11jan2019   20871    730         683   22284     93.7     3.3           3.1 |
 32. | 11jan2019   10feb2019   19575    727         302   20604       95     3.5           1.5 |
 33. | 10feb2019   12mar2019   21308    794         181   22283     95.6     3.6            .8 |
 34. | 12mar2019   11apr2019   20213    846         246   21305     94.9       4           1.2 |
 35. | 11apr2019   11may2019   17343    669         572   18584     93.3     3.6           3.1 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 36. | 11may2019   10jun2019   18941    676         625   20242     93.6     3.3           3.1 |
 37. | 10jun2019   10jul2019   19801    698         628   21127     93.7     3.3             3 |
 38. | 10jul2019   09aug2019   35785   1295        1454   38534     92.9     3.4           3.8 |
 39. | 09aug2019   08sep2019   33700    665         823   35188     95.8     1.9           2.3 |
 40. | 08sep2019   08oct2019   22258    739         491   23488     94.8     3.1           2.1 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 41. | 08oct2019   07nov2019   16122    818        1507   18447     87.4     4.4           8.2 |
 42. | 07nov2019   07dec2019    7851    686        1284    9821     79.9       7          13.1 |
 43. | 07dec2019   06jan2020    7283    901         882    9066     80.3     9.9           9.7 |
 44. | 06jan2020   05feb2020    7941    814         191    8946     88.8     9.1           2.1 |
 45. | 05feb2020   06mar2020    8716    482         733    9931     87.8     4.9           7.4 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 46. | 06mar2020   05apr2020    6808    475         245    7528     90.4     6.3           3.3 |
 47. | 05apr2020   05may2020   11114    588        1156   12858     86.4     4.6             9 |
 48. | 05may2020   04jun2020    8693    823        1546   11062     78.6     7.4            14 |
 49. | 04jun2020   04jul2020   13551    334         398   14283     94.9     2.3           2.8 |
 50. | 04jul2020   03aug2020    5991    248         294    6533     91.7     3.8           4.5 |
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 51. | 03aug2020   02sep2020   14368    402        1039   15809     90.9     2.5           6.6 |
 52. | 02sep2020   02oct2020   15342    288         511   16141       95     1.8           3.2 |
 53. | 02oct2020   01nov2020   11813    253         894   12960     91.1       2           6.9 |
 54. | 01nov2020   01dec2020   17803    282         265   18350       97     1.5           1.4 |
 55. | 01dec2020   31dec2020   24595    357         493   25445     96.7     1.4           1.9 |
     |-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|
 56. | 31dec2020   30jan2021   15008    263         880   16151     92.9     1.6           5.4 |
 57. | 30jan2021   01mar2021    5881    318         160    6359     92.5       5           2.5 |
 58. | 01mar2021   31mar2021   11127    385         872   12384     89.8     3.1             7 |
 59. | 31mar2021   30apr2021    8362    338         976    9676     86.4     3.5          10.1 |
 60. | 30apr2021   30may2021    5594    296         414    6304     88.7     4.7           6.6 |
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 61. | 30may2021   29jun2021   12085    195          94   12374     97.7     1.6            .8 |
 62. | 29jun2021   29jul2021   11187    222         145   11554     96.8     1.9           1.3 |
 63. | 29jul2021   28aug2021   14076    253         147   14476     97.2     1.7             1 |
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You are not quite correct in saying that the Polish section has no moderator. The Polish section currently has five moderators. There are three global moderators and two administrators who can handle reports on the entire forum, including the Polish section.

They have rights to moderate the forum globally and different than local moderators who only moderate their local boards except if they get extra assignments to moderate some other boards. Examples are Welsh and Xal0lex (maybe more).

[Xal0lex]

You are not quite correct in saying that the Polish section has no moderator. The Polish section currently has five moderators. There are three global moderators and two administrators who can handle reports on the entire forum, including the Polish section.

They have rights to moderate the forum globally and different than local moderators who only moderate their local boards except if they get extra assignments to moderate some other boards. Examples are Welsh and Xal0lex (maybe more).

You're quoting my post that says pretty much the same thing you wrote. You probably didn't pay attention to who you were quoting. I know that, I don't need to explain it. You are quoting me and at the same time mention me in the third person. That's funny

[tranthidung]

You're quoting my post that says pretty much the same thing you wrote. You probably didn't pay attention to who you were quoting. I know that, I don't need to explain it. You are quoting me and at the same time mention me in the third person. That's funny

I did that post for the OP, not for you. I thought to add (you) after your name but if it is like that, the post will be for you, which is not. So I did not add that part and it leads to misunderstanding.

I only wanted to add that there are some local moderators who can be assigned with extra boards even they are not global moderators.

[Xal0lex]

I only wanted to add that there are some local moderators who can be assigned with extra boards even they are not global moderators.

Of course it is possible to appoint a simple moderator as well. There would be a desire, as they say. But I think that here we are talking exactly about having a Polish-speaking moderator in the section. Although I personally don't see any problems in terms of language barrier. But, if forum users from the Polish section really want to have a moderator in their section and they are satisfied with a non-Polish-speaking moderator, they can ask to appoint a moderator for their section from the current moderators.