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Economy => Scam Accusations => Topic started by: indexhtml on January 24, 2024, 01:53:09 AM



Title: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: indexhtml on January 24, 2024, 01:53:09 AM
SCAM ALERT
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his personal info:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3477737

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3521409

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user names:

ALIMWENZA

Organic seek donations

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USDT wallet:

TTGUYwYKZ7bppUpr5vJ1qToKwjPBYJ3nse

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private convo messages i had with him

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Updated:

 the conversation recorded



https://www.mediafire.com/file/k88ucuqrl0ricb9/2024-01-28+17.18.43.mov/file

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Thanks:

@PX-Z
@SFR10
@JeromeTash
@steve5946
@holydarkness
@khaled0111
@blckhawk
@virasog
@holydarkness










Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: PX-Z on January 24, 2024, 02:29:17 AM
With all the important thing in trading (buy and sell), you should double check it's reputation before dealing, or at least make  deal in a reputable user nothing or else you will just risk losing your money.

Move this on Scam accusation board (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) and follow this format (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260073.0). Include all necessary proofs that you have, screenshots and chat logs.


Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: SFR10 on January 24, 2024, 05:23:35 PM
his personal info:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3477737

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3521409
There's another one who tried covering the tracks by editing his/her post: braceletspatriot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3589743) [proof (https://loyce.club/archive/posts/6341/63410472.html)]

private convo messages i had with him
Considering that your account is still quite new in this forum, most of us probably wouldn't tag their accounts without concrete proof [I believe everything took place in Telegram, so you might want to export the chat history and upload it to a website like MediaFire instead].
- BTW, sorry to hear or rather read about the incident in question.


Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: JeromeTash on January 24, 2024, 09:05:32 PM
I can see there is some 35 USDT that was sent to the address over a day ago. I believe that was you, OP (https://tronscan.org/#/address/TTGUYwYKZ7bppUpr5vJ1qToKwjPBYJ3nse/transfers). I am going to tag the accounts involve but it would be nice if you posted screenshots of the chat between you and the scammer.
That being said, please do not deal with accounts that have no reputation at all in the forum. At least use an escrow service if you must deal with them.


Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: steve5946 on January 25, 2024, 08:39:05 AM
SCAM ALERT
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his personal info:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3477737

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3521409

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user names:

ALIMWENZA

Organic seek donations

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You have been scammed, that’s how they act. I bet he had already blocked you and removed all the conversation. Use escrow next time, or better still buy from reputable people here


Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: holydarkness on January 25, 2024, 02:55:15 PM
Both accounts looks disposable, given both were last online around a month ago, on late December. Can you provide the proof of conversation in screenshot, if they haven't wipe the entire convo? Chat log like you provide can be easily manipulated and is not strong enough as a proof.


Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: khaled0111 on January 25, 2024, 08:27:39 PM
Sorry for your loss OP. Just consider it a lesson learned as I don't think there is any way to get your money back, sorry!
Tagging him will certainly help warning other members but it won't stop him. He will just abandon those accounts and create a new ones.
Next time, avoid dealing with newbies who have no reputation and always use an escrow. Also, and most importantly, do not trust sellers who lock their topics with no reason.


Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: blckhawk on January 26, 2024, 07:10:20 AM
Both accounts looks disposable, given both were last online around a month ago, on late December. Can you provide the proof of conversation in screenshot, if they haven't wipe the entire convo? Chat log like you provide can be easily manipulated and is not strong enough as a proof.
If so then a video of the chat logs being scrolled through would be a really good proof then to corroborate the screenshots, and it's also useful recording since you can do the Inspect element without cheating unless you're really desperate to scam or lie then editing the video would your choice but I don't think that people will ever be able to not tell if something's edited anyway. To OP, what exactly is this user trying to scam you for? And what seeking donations means? Is that where you are going to be giving donations or soliciting them per individual?


Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: virasog on January 26, 2024, 07:30:12 AM
Both accounts looks disposable, given both were last online around a month ago, on late December. Can you provide the proof of conversation in screenshot, if they haven't wipe the entire convo? Chat log like you provide can be easily manipulated and is not strong enough as a proof.
If so then a video of the chat logs being scrolled through would be a really good proof then to corroborate the screenshots, and it's also useful recording since you can do the Inspect element without cheating unless you're really desperate to scam or lie then editing the video would your choice but I don't think that people will ever be able to not tell if something's edited anyway. To OP, what exactly is this user trying to scam you for? And what seeking donations means? Is that where you are going to be giving donations or soliciting them per individual?

Yes, a screenshot of the text messages or a video proof is much better (as anyone just write a fake chat to destroy anyone reputation).
Anyways, this proof will only let us tag these two accounts and people wouldn't deal on the services listed at    
AFFORDABLE UBER EATS GIFTCARDS /UBER GIFTCARDS FOR BTC & CRYPTO. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5467851.msg62892216#msg62892216), GOLD ON SALE. 20k. 83% QUALITY ASSURED. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5467653.msg62883196#msg62883196), Stripchat, Chaturbate & myfreecams, tokens. Guaranteed No BAN! No EXPIRY! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5465535.msg62790417#msg62790417) and others if any.
It's hard to get money back for those whom are already scammed by him and he has nothing to lose (just a newbie throwaway account).

Another thing to note is that ALIMWENZA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3477737) locks the thread immediately after listing his services which is a first sign of a scammer as he would not want people to write bad feedback on his thread. Better do not deal with those who lock their thread thus avoiding the conversation and feedback on the forum.


Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: holydarkness on January 26, 2024, 08:24:50 AM
Both accounts looks disposable, given both were last online around a month ago, on late December. Can you provide the proof of conversation in screenshot, if they haven't wipe the entire convo? Chat log like you provide can be easily manipulated and is not strong enough as a proof.
If so then a video of the chat logs being scrolled through would be a really good proof then to corroborate the screenshots, and it's also useful recording since you can do the Inspect element without cheating unless you're really desperate to scam or lie then editing the video would your choice but I don't think that people will ever be able to not tell if something's edited anyway. To OP, what exactly is this user trying to scam you for? And what seeking donations means? Is that where you are going to be giving donations or soliciting them per individual?

Umm... I think screenshots of those conversation is enough for now, given many signs points to OP's accusation being justified. A video recording of those screenshots [although welcome] seems a bit excessive.


Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: SFR10 on January 26, 2024, 02:41:23 PM
And what seeking donations means?
Organic seek donations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3521409) is the name of ALIMWENZA's alt account.

Anyways, this proof will only let us tag these two accounts
There's one more throwaway account [refer to post #3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5482735.msg63551451#msg63551451)].

A video recording of those screenshots [although welcome] seems a bit excessive.
Not the screenshots [SS can easily be manipulated], but the actual conversations between the involved users... Although it might appear to be a bit excessive at first, such recordings [blckhawk's suggestion] are probably the best route for providing concrete proof.

@indexhtml
You can use OBS to record the conversation and upload the video to a website like Streamable (https://streamable.com/).


Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: indexhtml on January 28, 2024, 03:52:43 PM
Updated:

 the conversation recorded



https://www.mediafire.com/file/k88ucuqrl0ricb9/2024-01-28+17.18.43.mov/file



Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: SFR10 on January 28, 2024, 08:17:24 PM
Updated:
the conversation recorded
https://www.mediafire.com/file/k88ucuqrl0ricb9/2024-01-28+17.18.43.mov/file
Thank you for taking the time to record the whole conversation for us [everything checked out]... I'll be leaving a negative rating shortly on all of his/her accounts, but you can go a step further by creating a type 2/3 flag on his/her accounts:

  • You might want to create a type 2 or 3 flags [also known as the scammer flag (read "Trust flags (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.0)")] on those two accounts [with enough support (+3), it'll be activated and the scammer in question would get a "red warning (https://imgur.com/05MsoAb)" on top of all of his/her threads while also getting another "warning (https://imgur.com/b2MGss1)" on his/her account]!

    • Steps: Go to their trust summary page > Scroll down to find the "add a flag" button [it's located at the end of the negative feedback description] > Choose the appropriate type, then proceed to the next step [the rest is self-explanatory].


Title: Re: SCAMMER: user ALIMWENZA
Post by: JeromeTash on January 28, 2024, 09:52:04 PM
Updated:

 the conversation recorded
https://www.mediafire.com/file/k88ucuqrl0ricb9/2024-01-28+17.18.43.mov/file
Thanks for taking your time to record the conversation, and I can confirm that it's indeed the same as what you had post earlier on. I am going to tag the accounts. Please follow what SFR10 suggested regarding the type 2 or type 3 flags. We shall support them. In a meantime, I am going to create type 1 flags on the involved profiles.